Change Your Brain Every Day - Eat Your Way to a Healthier Heart, with Dr. Steven Masley

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

After years of studying how your diet affects your overall health, Dr. Steven Masley decided to make it his mission to write more recipes than prescriptions. In this first episode of a series with the... author of “The Mediterranean Method”, Dr. Masley tells the Amens his story of how going through a chef school transformed his approach from treating symptoms to preventing disease.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are going to start your new year, your new decade off with a bang. Tan and I are going to do a six-week live class. So starting January 21st, every Tuesday, we're going to be with you for an hour. And at the end, we're going to give away over $20,000 in prizes. We look forward to helping you kick off this new year by becoming brain health revolutionaries. Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. In our podcast, we provide you with the tools you need to become a warrior for the health of your brain and body. The Brain Warriors Way
Starting point is 00:00:51 podcast is brought to you by Amen Clinics, where we have been transforming lives for 30 years using tools like brain spec imaging to personalize treatment to your brain. For more information, visit amonclinics.com. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is also brought to you by BrainMD, where we produce the highest quality nutraceuticals to support the health of your brain and body. To learn more, go to brainmd.com. Welcome, everyone. We have a very special week for you.
Starting point is 00:01:23 We are together with our friend, Dr. Stephen Masley, who is a physician, nutritionist, a trained chef. I love that part. An author and the creator of the very successful public television show, 30 Days to a Younger Heart. He helps motivated people tune up their brain, their heart, and sexual performance. Now, we have talked about that, haven't we? How your brain, your heart, and your genitals are all connected because it's all about blood flow. He is a fellow with the American Heart Association and the American College of
Starting point is 00:02:07 Nutrition, which is so important to do those two things together. His research focuses on the impact of lifestyle choices, on brain function, heart disease, and aging. He's the best-selling author of a number of books, 10 Years Younger, The 30-Day Heart Tune-Up, Smart Fat, The Better Brain Solution, and his latest book, The Mediterranean Method. Plus, he's also written a number of scientific articles. We're so excited to have you on with us, Stephen. Yes, thank you for being here. And I'm delighted to be with you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I think our audience really is going to be interested about the things we're going to talk about, the brain-heart connection, the brain-heart-gut connection, the brain-heart-gut genital connection. I mean, all of this is just so important. And I want to see a picture of that book again, because your book's coming out soon, right? It's beautiful. December 31st.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Gorgeous. So we always love promoting books that are in line with what we recommend, and people get just more and more recipes. So that's fabulous. I'm assuming there's some easy things in there for people who don't like to cook. Yes. Easy to prepare. And it even, this is my first book ever where it comes out with like photos in it, you know, some of the dishes. That's a first for me, you know, that something that you have photos of the meals as well, which that goes with the Mediterranean
Starting point is 00:03:43 eating, right? The food is beautiful. That's wonderful. Colorful as well. So let's start in this podcast and tell us your story. How did you get interested in being a different kind of physician? Well, you may not know this, but my dad was a surgeon and he worked like 90 hours a week. To see my dad as a child, I basically rode my bike to the hospital and I would find him in the emergency room, in surgery, in the ICU. And it was very intensive. So here's someone who's not old enough to drive a car who goes to see his dad, scrubs, gets scrubs on, scrubs up. And my dad usually would make me do a few stitches or something. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:33 When I would see them in the intensive care unit, I thought, wow, this is awful. This is what they do to people in the hospital. This is terrible. Yep. So, you know, people love my dad. We had so many fruitcakes over the holidays, you know, we could hardly find our own presents. But, you know, I dreamed that when I grew up, I'd be a doctor that kept people out of the hospital so they didn't need surgery and they didn't need to go in the intensive care unit. And that was
Starting point is 00:05:03 my dream as a child. But you can imagine going to medical school and going through residency. It was frustrating because all our time was spent in the hospital. So I had to reinvent myself, get a nutrition degree, go back to cooking school. I love that. To get to my childhood roots of what I wanted out of medicine. That was quite a journey. That's amazing. You'll relate to this thing because I'm a neurosurgical ICU nurse. And so I worked in a level A trauma unit and I had a really interesting story. There was a surgeon,
Starting point is 00:05:36 he was a well-known surgeon on our unit. I worked at Loma Linda. So we saw a lot of high profile cases and I used to see him outside the hospital. He was overweight and he would smoke. And I'm like, how is that possible? How does this surgeon smoke knowing what he knows, eat the way he eats, like stay overweight? I'm confused. But I also know in their defense, their lifestyle is really hard to contend with. The hours that they work and such, it's really difficult. Well, I used to come in with my lunch bag every single day and I was really into weightlifting at the time. So my lifestyle was the opposite of what a lot of people in the medical field is. And so I'd come in with my lunch bag, and he walks in one day to the lunchroom, and he says, you know, all of that healthy eating and exercise is only going to add
Starting point is 00:06:18 a few years to your life. And my jaw hits the table. And I looked at him, I'm like, have you looked around our unit? It's really not about the number of years I live. It's really more about how I live those years. Like I was so confused that- Absolutely. You know, so it was just such a, that Western medicine philosophy is just so different from the preventative medicine, you know? So it's just so interesting. So you'll relate to that, you know, based on what you saw. Absolutely. I totally get it. Yeah. So tell us more.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Why Chef School? That's so great. You know, I was doing research. I worked at Group Health Cooperative, which now is part of Kaiser. You know, they are now part of the Kaiser family. And I was doing research studies on how to help reverse heart disease and what could people do for osteoporosis. And in the studies, when I did surveys and questionnaires on how to improve this, what the subject said over and over is if you just gave us recipes that were easy to prepare, the food would taste good, and I could find the ingredients at the store, that's what I'll make. And that would make all the difference.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I don't need all this detailed information. And that was like a light bulb going off for me that I really did need to start writing a lot more recipes than I ever wrote prescriptions as a physician. And that was transforming. And once I started doing that, you know, that really did change my practice become I became more food oriented and practical. So yeah, I want meals to be easy to prepare delicious, your family and friends love them and the nutrients nourish your heart, brain and soul. So I got my fellowship in nutrition with the American College of Nutrition. And I went to the Four Seasons and did a chef internship.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And I got the results from my studies improved dramatically. That's awesome. So writing, I mean, that's like a headline, writing more recipes than prescriptions. That's a great soundbite, by the way. That's fantastic. Because there's not a lot of doctors who have that mindset. They're not trained that way. I think it's becoming a little more, you know, the focus is shifting, but it's still not the norm.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Oh, but not the norm. Yeah. No. So, you know, our friend Mark Hyman, I think is the same way. And tell us a little bit more about some of the studies you were doing and how they informed your practice. Well, we looked at a diet trial, diet intervention exercise trial, and it was for people with heart disease. And we were looking at could we change behavior, risk factors. Initially, we tried adding an Ornish program.
Starting point is 00:09:11 This was back in the early 1990s. But I couldn't get even 5% of people with heart disease to follow it. And even if they tried it, they would drop out within a month. So I realized this isn't going to work. And I always had an interest in a Mediterranean diet. And I thought, what if I did a Mediterranean version of this, where we add more healthy fat, really focus on vegetable, fruit, beans, nuts, healthy fats, herbs and spices make food taste great, simple to prepare. And my results were awesome. I mean, it was pretty amazing. And so when I ran my clinic for, you know, over time, we would notice our
Starting point is 00:09:53 average patient was shrinking plaque over time. We had hundreds of people that shrunk their artery plaque by more than 10 years. Wow. That the brain cognitive performance doing CNS vital sign, our average patient's processing speed increased. We had hundreds of people who had more than a 25% improvement in brain processing and brain function. So we could see that lifestyle had a huge impact. So I changed my whole perspective.
Starting point is 00:10:21 If I put someone on a med, it's not like I never wrote a prescription. Let's be realistic. But I would usually say, I'm writing this because I failed you somehow. Oh, interesting. No, I really made an impact. I wouldn't need to write this. And hopefully someday you won't need it. But for now, let's go ahead and start this. But the key is not this prescription. It's the other choices you're making. I love that. That was quite a change in my practice the other choices you're making. And so when I made, that was quite a change in my practice. So what you're saying, because I don't think most people
Starting point is 00:10:51 believe this, is that you can actually decrease the amount of plaque you have on your blood vessels. Most people don't know that. Oh yeah, we've published this. We were doing crowded IMT for 10 years and we monitor every patient and track them over time. And our average patient's plaque was shrinking. The average American is growing at about one and a half percent more plaque every year. Wow. So that reminds me, I mean, that sort of sounds like what we tell people that you can make your brain better. It doesn't have to get worse as you age. And most people don't know that. They don't believe that. So, but you're saying you actually found the same thing in your practice that cognitively they were getting better as their hearts got better. Cause you're, what's good for your brain is good for your heart is good for your genitals. So your circulation, your tissues,
Starting point is 00:11:37 your function, everything. I mean, it all goes together. You know, we're a matrix, right? And you know, I have to say as someone who suffered a lot, my health was terrible, which is why I went into this field and went on this journey and wrote my book, The Omni Diet, was because I was just such a mess as a kid. I was one of those very sickly kids, ended up with thyroid cancer that was metastatic, kept coming back, couldn't figure out why, was on nine medications, and it just didn't make sense to me. So as a nurse, I went, there's got to be a better way. And I went on that journey myself. And I just remember feeling as a patient, like,
Starting point is 00:12:11 why is no one addressing me as a person? I keep getting sent to all these specialists. They keep layering my meds, not communicating with one another. It didn't make sense to me. I'm not a bunch of individual organs or systems. I'm a person. Like why did, why are people not addressing me as a person? And I'm a nurse. So imagine how frustrating it is to someone who has no concept of what they're doing with this. It's hard. It's very frustrating. So I applaud you. I'm sure it was, but you obviously had wonderful results once you got out, you know, once you've taken charge of your own health. Well, that's what we tell people. Become your own advocate.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And it's easier when you're in the health industry. So if you're not, then you find people like you, right? That's what we recommend. You find people that are holistic, that look at you like a person. You're looking at their heart, their brain function, their genital function, their sexual function. You're looking at the whole person. That's so important. When we come back, we're going to talk about the brain-heart
Starting point is 00:13:13 connection, which is just incredibly important. And we're very happy that Dr. Masley's a brain warrior with us. Let's see his book one more time. That is such a pretty book. So if people want this book, when and where can they get it? It's available wherever books are sold on December 31st. Excellent. Pre-order at any time.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Excellent. It's called The Mediterranean Method. You're listening to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. Stay with us. Your heart is coming up next. If you're enjoying the Brain Warriors Way podcast, please don't forget to subscribe so you'll always know when there's a new episode. And while you're at it, feel free to give us a review or five-star rating
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