Change Your Brain Every Day - How Do Foods Affect Your Health? With Max Lugavere

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

When his mother became ill, “Genius Foods” author Max Lugavere learned the hard way that dementia can begin to take hold in your brain decades before you start seeing symptoms. This experience became his motivation to educate people on the importance of nutrition for the brain. In the first episode of a series with Lugavere, he and the Amens discuss the ways a poor diet can disrupt your health.

Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. In our podcast, we provide you with the tools you need to become a warrior for the health of your brain and body. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is brought to you by Amen Clinics, where we have been transforming lives for 30 years using tools like brain spec imaging to personalize treatment to your brain. For more information, visit amenclinics.com. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is also brought to you by BrainMD, where we produce the highest quality nutraceuticals to support the health of your brain and body. To learn more, go to brainmd.com. Welcome, everyone.

We are here with our friend, Max Lugavere, who's a filmmaker, TV personality, health and science journalist, and brain food expert. I've actually gotten to look at his brain, which is fun. We did an episode for the Dr. Oz show together. He's the author host of the number one iTunes health podcast, The Genius Life. He's contributed to Medscape, Viced, Fast Company, and The Daily Beast, and has been featured on NBC Nightly News, The Dr. Oz Show, and The Wall Street Journal. He also has a new book coming out March 17th called The Genius Life. And I always love interviewing Max. It's an honor to have you.

Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. Thank you. I really relished having the opportunity to get my brain scanned by you. It empirically was able to prove that I do indeed have a brain, which is something that I think for many years was, at least in my family, up for debate. That's great. So tell our audience your story. So why have you become so passionate about brain health? Yeah. So, I mean, I think that I have a story very similar to many people these days. I became interested in the role of diet and lifestyle

and brain health when my mother got sick. And she was about 58 when she was diagnosed for the first time at the Cleveland Clinic with a neurodegenerative condition. And it took us a few years to actually get a diagnosis for her, even though she was prescribed drugs to treat both memory loss and her movement symptoms years before that. But she had a condition called Lewy body dementia, which was just traumatic to see a person, especially a younger person like my mom was, decline and succumb to that condition, which for anybody listening who doesn't know what Louie Barriere dementia is, it feels like having Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease at

the same time. With psychosis added onto it. Yeah. Cause it often will start with visual hallucinations and on spec, what we often see is their occipital lobes in their back are attacked. That we see low blood flow, different than Alzheimer's disease. It tends to attack the parietal lobes nearby, top back part of your brain. But yeah, no, it can be just so devastating. It's what Robin Williams was diagnosed with. Yeah. And Robin Williams, everybody knows he committed suicide. The condition does, yeah, it has more in common with Parkinson's disease than it does Alzheimer's disease. And

the way that I, you know, compare them all is that Alzheimer's disease primarily is a neurocognitive disorder. Parkinson's is a movement disorder. And, you know, in the late later stages of Parkinson's disease, you might develop Parkinson's disease dementia, just because the as you know, the condition ultimately ravages the brain and we don't yet fully understand its ideology. But Lewy body dementia, you'll be at the onset, you'll experience both the movement symptoms and the cognitive symptoms. And that was something that my mom from the get go, it was very clear that my mom had. But nonetheless, you know, what I experienced in every doctor's office with her, I've come to

refer to as diagnose and adios. Typically, a physician would prescribe a new drug or raise levels of a medication that she was already on. And in my view, and I'm an N of one, you know, this is an N of one anecdote, none of the medications helped my mom at all. And in fact, by the end of her life, she was on seven different pharmaceutical drugs, at least. So it motivated me in a very strong way to undertake this journey of trying to understand why this would have happened to my mom. What could be done, what might explain the extremely poor health that she had in the latter years of her life and what could be done to prevent this from ever happening to me. And I think we're at this very fascinating and empowering time in

the literature where we no longer have to sit idly on our hands. There's enough information out there. It's just a question of getting this information out to the right people. And one of the most shocking discoveries that I made when I began this research is that dementia often begins in the brain decades before the first symptom. And so this is a topic that I felt younger people, I mean, ultimately people of all ages, but especially younger people needed to be talking about. And that's what inspired my work. Yeah, no, it's one of the early lessons I learned from SPECT is that Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia, they don't start when you have symptoms. They actually start decades before, which is a huge advocate of

screening the brain. It's like we screen every other organ, but the one that gives you your personality, the one that makes decisions, the one that decides if you're happy or sad, wealthy or poor, good parents and so on. And, you know, if you don't look, you don't know. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, that's the thing about the brain is that we look in the mirror and we can see our body composition. We can get a sense of our cardiovascular health, you know, when we're going up a flight of stairs, how in shape we are, but you can't look in the mirror and see your brain. So it's just something that most people don't think about. Most people are not thinking about their brain health, which is odd because

so many people are struggling with mental health. And where do you think our mood manifests from? I mean, it comes from our brain. Or do you think, you know, memory originates in the body? Well, it comes from the brain. But the thing is, most people sort of underwrite the brain. Yeah. Yeah, no, the end of mental illness coming out in just a few weeks. It's like it's not mental illness. It's brain health issues that steal your mind. And, you know, we don't sort of screen and get young people excited about their brains.

It's just a disaster waiting to happen. So Genius Foods did really well. And we're so proud of you for really elevating the conversation around food. Why did you decide to start there first? It's a great title. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. I'm glad and I'm humbled and it's been a wonderful experience. You know, because as I mentioned, it's all motivated by my mom and that was my mission was to get this information out there. And I started with nutrition because I guess you could

say that I've always had a, an interest in nutrition for as long as I can remember, but food is something where I think people have just a tremendous amount of agency. We all eat every single day, multiple times a day. And so it's a great place to begin. Um, you know, and, and there is now for the first time, a plethora of studies coming out showing us that food has a major impact on the brain, which we should have assumed, I think, from the get go. But we just didn't have the data there to to really kind of have our recommendations rooted in science. But now for the first time, we're seeing associations with dietary patterns that are related to reduced risk for conditions like Alzheimer's disease and all cause dementia. Um, we have, uh, uh, a growing body of mechanistic studies in animals and in vitro showing us how different, uh, nutrients found in food can boost brain health and memory function and even mood. Um, you know, if you'll accept that a mouse's mood might somehow

reflect the mood of a human. And then we have, for the first time, interventional trials, like actual experimental research in humans. One that I cite in the book Genius Foods comes from the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, where I actually had the pleasure to go and visit. And I got to look at the work being done in the finger study where they're showing it's the world's first ever large population, long-term randomized control trial. That's actually an ongoing trial where they continue to show us that by adhering to a healthier diet, that's packed with nutrients that nurture the brain, that you can actually significantly delay the onset of cognitive decline.

Whether or not we want to use the word prevention, I think, is up for debate, but I'm happy to use it because we use it for other conditions. But not only that, even in old age, by adhering to a diet that's rich in brain-boosting nutrients, extra virgin olive oil, fatty fish, dark leafy greens, nuts, seeds, things like that, you can actually have a marked effect on the way that your brain functions in the here and now. So what they're showing us in Finland, which is actually where the intervention is taking place, that even if you're in old age and have at least one risk factor for developing cognitive decline, you can boost the processing speed of your brain by 150%

with food or your brain's executive function, which is so crucial for getting things done in our day-to-day lives by 83%. So I felt that we had enough information in terms of diet to make really solid recommendations for people that were safe, that were rooted in evidence, and that could have a significant impact on readers. And now that, you know, the book has been out for over a year, Genius Foods, I can't tell you, Dr. Amen, the amount of testimonials that I've received from people, you know, that they've been sleeping better, that the brain fog has lifted, their moods have improved. And so to me, I'm like, well, man, you know, this is just like you are what you eat. And what you eat certainly matters for your gray matter.

And so I'm just so happy that people are embracing this idea. So when we come back, what I want to do is actually help people with really practical tips on how they can implement brain healthy food, genius foods into their life. Tan and I tomorrow are doing a program for the Newport Beach Police Department. And the topic tomorrow is about food. We've been working with them for six months and they're under chronic stress and they have they do shift work. So, you know, they have these 12 hour shifts that are not going away. And let's just see, you know, what give us a review or five-star rating as that helps others find the podcast. If you're considering coming to Amen Clinics or trying some of the brain healthy supplements

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