Change Your Brain Every Day - How To Break A Bad Habit Right Now – Part 3 of an Interview with Andy Ramage
Episode Date: June 23, 2017Our habits are a result of our conditioning. When we slip up and do things we know may not be good for us, it’s easy to blame ourselves and give up, thus continuing the cycle. Luckily, there are eff...ective and realistic ways to address these bad habits and pave the way for positive change. In the last episode of a series with Andy Ramage, he discusses these methods with Dr. Daniel Amen and Tana Amen.
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So we're back. We're still with Andy Ramage and One Year No Beer. We're having such a good time
talking about why he went alcohol free all the positive changes
in his body his brain his performance but now we're going to talk about the habits why people
do this because i love what you said you'd walk into a bar you told yourself you were going to
order water but then you ended up ordering the beer and that's a really important point because
we get triggered by our by certain um anchors almost i'll call them like things that
we are even unaware that we're being triggered by smell or sounds or uh you know the sight of
something and with the best intentions in mind they go right out the window so talk to us about
you know habits like how did you change that? And what have you learned about habit change and helping others?
Yeah, just to delve into that point a bit more, it's really interesting, because what happens is,
and this is when everything changed for me. This is when I started to get into NLP,
started to get into positive psychology, and understand that actually,
a rational decision don't always play out.
They're not always that rational, are they?
Yeah, it's that limbic part of our brain,
that primitive part of our brain that takes over.
And it's so important to know because, for example,
when I gave that routine now, I'd get to the bar
and I'd order an alcoholic drink,
even though I told myself I wasn't going to do that.
That is such a key moment because I started to doubt myself. You to think maybe I've got this problem maybe my genes are faulty
I was embarrassed that I couldn't follow through maybe I was a willpower failure and I think at
that very point so many people give up and what they do is they stay with the crowd it's much
easier to keep drinking because then no one would ever notice that i was actually this willpower failure that i'd made up in my mind and it's such an important point and
we really go into this within one you know beer to catch people in that moment to say actually
do you know what you're behaving perfectly rational for someone who's been programmed as
we said psychologically and socially for all of these years to do these things you are going to
slip up every now and again.
You are going to order the lager or the glass of wine
when you really wanted a sparkling water.
If that happens, don't panic.
Firstly, you don't have to drink it just because you bought it.
You put the drink down and walk away where we can see your hand.
And it's almost education.
It starts right there.
Tell people it's
not the end of the world don't let this be an excuse and there's lots of research behind this
i think you said janet povey from the dieting world first discovered this it's called what the
hell effect because people would reach that point where they'd say they're not going to drink they'd
accidentally have a drink or a cream cake and that becomes this big excuse to let the floodgates open and drink
10 drinks or eat 10 cakes when actually do you know what it's just one slip you know you you
know psychologically you've been programmed to do this stuff you've tripped up don't worry about it
end it there learn from your mistake and come back stronger and that's this is a real fundamental
part of what we're doing around habit change is to
catch those initial mistakes, learn from them, and start to come back stronger.
So one of the things, you know, in treating addicts for many, many years,
addiction treatment centers come up with this mnemonic called HALT, and I would add to that.
But it's don't let yourself get too hungry because when you have low blood sugar,
you have low blood flow to the front part of your brain, which is the brain's break,
and it stops you from doing things you don't want to do.
And so don't go too long without eating healthy food. Don't get too angry.
Negative emotion tends to turn off the judgment centers of your brain. So don't get too hungry,
angry, lonely, because when you start to feel disconnected from others, then people go and
medicate themselves, or tired, because if people get less than seven hours of sleep at night,
they have low overall blood flow to the brain, which means they're going to make more bad
decisions. And then we would add, and we joked on our first podcast about, you know, you're in
London, the sun doesn't come out much, but low vitamin D levels also are associated with higher
cravings, more depression, and more issues with judgment. So there's, I mean, some really simple
things once you make the decision to change how you support it.
And I loved what you said, which is if you slip, well, don't fall and crack your head.
Learn from it and go, well, okay.
So whenever I have patients that slip and they slip all the time, we actually have somebody
in our family who's had some serious problems.
And when she slipped, the question is, okay, I want to learn all about it.
You know, rather than judge someone as, oh, you're bad.
It's, well, let's learn from it.
So it doesn't have to happen again.
Did you go too long without eating? Did you believe
every stupid thing you thought? Did you not sleep well? What? One of the things I want to push on a
little bit, Andy, because it's so important. I've done a lot of work in NLP myself in the area of
performance and just clearing some of the past triggers that I've had. And I think it's amazing. It's like this amazing shortcut. So I love it. And one of the things I love about NLP is that
one of the things that Daniel talks a lot about and that I love from a brain perspective is how
our template sometimes gets set. Our emotional brain, we have these patterns or these templates
that get set at certain times in our life for whatever
reason. And what I love about NLP is that doing that assessment, the way that you can step back
and you actually can take a look at when did it get set? Why did it get set? How did it get set?
And you can actually fairly quickly break that pattern. Now that's not going to address the
physical part of it, but it does address that part of it,
like how did that template get set
and how can I redirect that?
How can I reset that?
So I love that.
Yeah, exactly.
We incorporate a lot of NLP quite subtly.
Again, not necessarily so much pattern change interrupt,
but we use it very much from a visualization point of view.
So to go into the whole habit change, interrupt, but we use it very much from a visualization point of view. So to go into the whole habit change system now, so we start to look at the science of
habit change, how they form, triggers.
So we get people to find out what their triggers are.
It could be 6 p.m. on a Friday afternoon.
Then we look at their routines.
What's the routine they're playing?
They might go to the bar and have a few drinks.
And then what we're really interested in is what's the reward?
What is it they're after?
Is it, you know, the social camaraderie of being with friends?
Is it a chance to relax?
What is it?
And that's so key because a lot of the time people are actually playing these routines,
which is the alcohol routine, to get something that they could achieve without alcohol.
Right.
And that's really important.
And then what we we use then
we couple that with with um visualization again it's a great technique you know from sporting
world and from nlp to get people to rehearse in their mind what are they going to do that friday
night trigger comes what's the routine what's the reward because obviously the beauty of visualization
is such a key skill so you can do it a times in your head, but you can't walk into that bar 100 times and play that scenario.
So I think it's a really important part, and it works.
It works extremely well.
So he's talking about relapse prevention, which is predicting where the vulnerable areas are and then coming up ahead of time with a strategy for dealing with that.
So this is a very different environment, but sort of an interesting kind of example.
I was getting ready to take my black belt test and I didn't want to take it. And I actually told
my master, I don't want to take it because where I train very high level athletes and I'm older and
I had this whole list. I'm not as strong. I'm not as big. I'm not too old and whatever. This whole
list of I have health issues. And I'm not as big. I'm not too old and whatever. This whole list of I have health issues. And, and I didn't understand why, cause I had my whole life been an athlete,
but I just couldn't get myself in that place to, I couldn't see myself standing next to these people
with a belt on. And so when I did some NLP, what I, people don't even understand. So this is where
I like what you said about consciousness. They don't understand and they don't pay attention to what they're really seeing in their head.
So when I had someone walk me through this process, and this is so important,
we stopped and slowed down. And what I was seeing in my head were these people who were much bigger
than me, who were much stronger than me. I was smaller, I was weaker, and I wasn't performing
the same. But when I became conscious of it, I literally physically shrunk them down in my head
to my size, made them normal sized, made myself their size, and went through the visualization
process of not only performing 110%, and then I visualized myself 15 minutes after the test wearing that belt.
And I can't even tell you what that did for me, but it was seeing them bigger than me and stronger
than me and me weak. That just was, was holding me back the whole time. People don't see that
they do that. Even in this situation of drinking alcohol, it's bigger than them, or the social environment is too
complicated, or it's, you know, whatever it is, that picture that they've created,
they make it bigger in their head than it needs to be.
Yeah, that's a great example. And we have one, we call it the crossroads.
It's not about sort of changing the sort of dynamic of the picture in many ways,
but it's that visualization, a bit like what you said there where you come 15 minutes after you've achieved the black belt
how did you feel and we have one with the crossroad which is you can you know you meet the path and
you can choose that path of continue with your old habits or you can take the path of this new
healthy bright vibrant you and then we fast forward to that six months later how do you feel
what are your emotions and these things are so powerful i love it again it's all the nlp stuff
but it's so powerful to take people i think out of their current settings and those those those stuck
mentality that they've got to give them that hope that like actually look this i can really achieve
this and this is what it's going to feel like. And that's very powerful, I think, around habit change.
Yeah, no, it's awesome because, I mean, who's going to possibly be able to succeed
if what they see in their head is that they're weaker or smaller or unsuccessful
or that they can't say no to peer pressure or it's really hard to succeed.
But if you just shift that picture a little bit and you see yourself in a different light,
you see yourself as an athlete, you see yourself as an athlete you see yourself as this powerful person you know it changes it's a game changer i mean it just
and then to to couple that as part of this challenge on the alcohol free challenge you're
doing this visualization but then every day you're proving to yourself that actually you can do this
so it's reinforcement self-confidence yeah and it and then it snowballs, and it links together,
and you become stronger and stronger and more confident,
and everything starts to change, and that's huge.
I love that.
So how can people learn more about you and your work?
Really simple, oneunobeer.com.
If you go there, you can sign up.
All the information's there.
All the videos are there. Come and join in the fun. Again, this is all about not giving something up. It's about
gaining a huge advantage. And just to be clear, this is not an abstinence program. This is very
much a prevention, label-free, stigma-free challenge. That's all it is. Come and enjoy it.
Come and check it out. And if you enjoy it, carry on with it fantastic one year no beer andy
ramage thank you so much so much fun time uh it was great fun and we will share this everywhere
we can that's fantastic thanks guys thanks andy all right andy take care you're listening to the
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