Change Your Brain Every Day - How To Help Your Kids Develop Their Brains Properly - PT. 2 with Wynford Dore

Episode Date: June 19, 2018

Science has shown us that the stimulation of the vestibular system (your inner ear) is crucial in development of the cerebellum, which is part of the brain hugely responsible for learning. So why are ...today’s children having increasingly slow development in this area? In the second part of Cerebellum Week, Dr. Daniel Amen is joined by Wynford Dore for a discussion on how to make sure our children develop their cerebellum correctly and avoid learning disabilities.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. Here we teach you how to win the fight for your brain to defeat anxiety, depression, memory loss, ADHD, and addictions. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is brought to you by Amen Clinics, where we've transformed lives for three decades using brain spec imaging to better target treatment and natural ways to heal the brain. For more information, visit amenclinics.com.
Starting point is 00:00:34 The Brain Warriors Way podcast is also brought to you by BrainMD, where we produce the highest quality nutraceutical products to support the health of your brain and body. For more information, visit brainmdhealth.com. Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. And stay tuned for a special code for a discount to Amen Clinics for a full evaluation, as well as any of our supplements at brainmdhealth.com. So welcome back. We're here with Winford Dorr. We're talking about the cerebellum. Welcome again to Cerebellar Week, to the Rodney Dangerfield part of the brain that people just don't care about. And it's interesting. When I first started imaging the brain, it was actually
Starting point is 00:01:19 1988, and I learned about neurofeedback. And neuro nerve feedback is a tool where we put electrodes on the scalp and show people their brainwave activity and then teach them to change it. And so from there, I learned about quantitative EEG, and I really like that. It was a new way to look at the brain. But EEG doesn't look at all at the cerebellum. And when we started doing spec scans in 1991, but EEG doesn't look at all at the cerebellum. And when we started doing spec scans in 1991, now it's giving this really great view of the cerebellum and the medicine we
Starting point is 00:01:52 use, Ceratec to do the scans at Amen Clinics, it lights up the cerebellum. So it's the best imaging study if you want to look at the cerebellum. And we just saw so many problems that could be fixed yeah i mean that was the exciting thing i showed you a case earlier yeah winford and i were hanging out today i showed you a case of a woman who'd been diagnosed with add by six different doctors had her on six different stimulants i'm thinking somebody's got a learning problem talking about learning problems um you
Starting point is 00:02:25 know after three you think okay this isn't the right thing and when she came to see me she had a cerebellar tumor and her whole brain was low in blood flow because the tumor had disrupted her cerebellum and the cerebellum then disrupted the rest of her brain and when they took out the tumor her add went away yeah and it was really stunning yeah how helpful that was so you know so the cerebellum is just so important so as you come to this finding to help your daughter so how is she now she she's fine. In fact, she's still making great progress. She went through a period of a few months where she was able to start reading. And that was kind of foundational and writing. Then she started being able to communicate with
Starting point is 00:03:18 other people because her confidence was going up. Because one of the things we see is that very often those who are struggling with learning have low levels of self-esteem and not many people realize that there's a direct link between your ability to automatize skill and how you feel about yourself so whilst we were focusing initially on Susie's reading issues we suddenly realized that this cerebellum or the brain within the brain, as some call it, was actually impacting so many of the other symptoms that we didn't realize were connected. So her mood swings, her depression, her writing ability, her reading ability, her ability to be organized and be structured was all impacted by the cerebellum. So when we started stimulating that and developing that,
Starting point is 00:04:06 Susie became more of a natural, more confident, more outgoing person. The cerebellum, you actually call it in your book, the brain's brain. I do, yeah. Which I think is fascinating. It's like the electrician that sits at the back here and just hardwires everything up. And fortunately, it is very, very few that have cerebellar tumors. That's very rare. Very rare. But one in five will have their cerebellum underdeveloped.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And it will show as poor attention, poor reading, poor writing, poor organization, and so on. So all of these other symptoms can be attributed back to incomplete development of the cerebellum. And that's what's so exciting is that I want to stop people thinking that if you've got a child or if you're an adult and struggling with these symptoms, that it's because of low levels of intelligence. It's often the opposite. And mums, you know, those warrior mums that are out there, they often see this intelligence in the child and they think, why isn't the school finding this? You know, we expect the education system or the medical system to be proactive at resolving these issues. And they aren't.
Starting point is 00:05:15 They struggle. And children struggle and adults struggle. And often they go right through life without this being found. So how does the cerebellum develop? I live next door to a farm and every spring I go there and I watch some lambs being born and start running. You know, they're within minutes of being born. They're feeding, they're standing up, and the next day they're out in the field and they're running around and jumping. Their cerebellum is highly developed from birth, whereas in humans
Starting point is 00:05:46 it's not. It's almost completely undeveloped. And so what takes a lamb a day will take a human two years to get the same level of ability to jump around and so on. So it's no wonder that different aspects of the development of the cerebellum is going to vary in the speed with which it develops. So when I see a child or an adult that's struggling with incomplete development of the cerebellum, I only think of it as a delay. And actually, I think of it as a positive. So I don't tend to use the labels dyslexia and autism anymore because I see huge potential.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So I just see that there's been a delay for some reason. Whatever it is, just do the right things and you can continue that development and often with unbelievably exciting results as I saw in my own daughter so crawling helps to stimulate the cerebellum yes so what a child is doing those early months of its life is naturally doing the vestibular type stimulation and coordination activities that develops the cerebellum. So often you find that children that manifest at five, six, seven years of age struggles with, say, reading or other learning issues. Often you can identify that they have bypassed a specific exercise that they should have been doing so you know my this is a tragic admission on my own part my oldest daughter Susie
Starting point is 00:07:10 we put her in a baby walker so she didn't do much crawling and she struggled now that may have been a coincidence but I do know when I talk to parents so many of the children that struggle with fundamental learning issues actually bypassed some of the crawling phase or conversely sometimes they crawled for far too long and they were delayed in walking delayed in speaking and so on so it's what's happening those early months appears to be driving the development of the cerebellum in a natural and a complete way and if you bypass it you can do and you've got to go back to the later stage in life and complete that development so that this brain within the brain can do its job. So you just gave me a horrifying idea.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Oh, good. That when Elias was born, he's my eight-year-old grandson who I adore. And his parents, who I love dearly, you know, they'd give him the cell phone and he was completely addicted to this thing. And so we've just known not to give him a gadget. Um, but early on, um, so many kids now are either in front of the television, in front of the iPad, in front of the computer, in front of the smartphone. We should call these dumb phones. And so they're not getting the same level of physical exercise. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:38 They're not getting the same. They're getting a different level of cerebellar activation than if they're doing exercise. Absolutely. You know, not thumb exercise. There's actually a study that says the thumb representation in the brain has become larger since we've introduced gadgets. And, you know, who needs a larger thumb representation?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Well, a monkey, if you're in a tree, not humans. But I wonder, and I'd love your thoughts on this, is the introduction of gadgets in the middle 80s. Does that in some way correlate with the skyrocketing number of kids who have ADD and learning problems because they're not getting the physical cerebellar development. I never really thought about that until just this moment. Talking to you, what do you think? I think that there's always a propensity for there to be some learning issue. And the greater the propensity, the more likely it is to happen. But then nurture comes into it.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And if you do give a child an excuse to be sedentary and not stimulate the vestibular for long periods, then you're not giving the cerebellum a chance. How interesting. So exercise at every age is critical to brain development and we we've just seen that it's sort of the universal treatment for depression head-to-head against antidepressants they're equally effective yeah for attention all problems yeah well what all we've done dr raymond is to systematically create the right exercise, the right level of stimulation into a program so that we can take people from wherever they are to a higher level of development of the cerebellum. So I'm a huge fan of exercise.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And in fact, the American government did a wonderful report a few years ago for schools giving all sorts of examples of proven research showing how exercise transforms kids what happens in schools they took exercise out of schools to save money it's like they took music out of schools when i was growing up probably you too the music was just sort of part of the curriculum and now it's it's not anymore. So I want to, in this podcast, I want to talk about some stories. When you think back on all the people that have done your program, are there a couple of stories that stand out? There is so many.
Starting point is 00:11:18 The first one that comes to mind I'll tell you about is a guy called Jim. He was in his 40s and he'd been severely autistic he just followed his parents around very very quietly wouldn't speak to anybody they had to wash him feed him dress him and so on and they were in their 70s and he they were afraid to get old and they worked with him, it takes us six to 12 months. In their case, it took a couple of years. But at the end of two years, Jim was going off to London on his own to see his sister. And he was at college studying to be a chef. And the parents came to me one day, and they said, you know what? We're no longer worried about getting old.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Wow. Because we know that Jim can look after himself. And that was, I was just in floods of tears. So the impact, impact poor learning has on people is huge. And the impact. And their families. Oh. The worry that, I have a handicapped granddaughter, Emmy, who I think our followers know about. She was born with a genetic micro deletion syndrome. And when she was five months old, she had wicked seizures. One day she had 160 of them. And they said she wouldn't walk. And on the ketogenic diet, she just did so well. But she still has developmental delays. And when I scanned her at nine months old,
Starting point is 00:12:46 she just had nothing going on in her cerebellum. So I'm going to see if I can get her mom to do this program. Oh, wonderful. I think it could be helpful for her. The second story that comes to mind is one actually in Australia, one in our Sydney clinic. And it was a girl that had severe cerebellar hyperplasia and she it took them a couple of years and I've I still keep
Starting point is 00:13:14 the videos and occasionally look at them where she's went from not just going around in a frame now she she can actually run and function and it is thrilling that brings tears to my eyes as well. I cry easily because, you know, having watched my own daughter wanting to die, it makes you realize the pain that individuals and families face. Oh, it's just devastating. It reminds me of this story of a kid I saw. So I was at a cocktail party.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And our group knows I don't drink, so I was having sparkling water. And just talking to these very nice people, and all of a sudden, they realized who I was. And they told me about their son, who didn't get pancakes in the morning and he had to have his way or he got really upset and he chased his mother around the house for 40 minutes with a butcher knife and i'm like oh my god i said you should bring him to see me and so they brought alex to see me and um when he was three he had a cerebellar tumor. Wow. And so I know this is my second tumor story.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, yeah. He had a cerebellar tumor. They took it out, but they didn't get it all. So they had to go back in. And on the second time when they back in, he developed meningitis. Wow. And the meningitis just killed his left temporal lobe. Your temporal lobe's underneath your temples
Starting point is 00:14:45 and behind your eyes. And he developed wicked seizures. And in many ways, people who have autistic kids can relate to it. The kid doesn't get his way and get very aggressive. And when I scanned him, I could see the cerebellar, cerebellum missing. His left temporal lobe was clearly damaged
Starting point is 00:15:06 that's where the seizures came from but his anterior cingulate gyrus um it's your gear shifter in the front part of your brain was freaking on fire i mean it just looked like it had seizure activity it was so active and when i calmed down his cingulate i use lexapur to do that um increases anticonvulsant he did so much better but now that i know about your program i'm like well you know his cerebellum was clearly damaged from this tumor from the surgery that to reprogram it should have been part of his rehabilitation program. And that's why I was so excited to spend time with you because I've just seen the cerebellum to be so troubled. And nobody cares about it, which is bizarre. It's the poor relation. It is. And the professor who put this on the map was Jeremy Schmarman
Starting point is 00:16:02 at Harvard Medical School many years ago. It took him years to get his first papers published. And that's the scary thing about research. Very often it takes generations before it reaches those that need it. And that's scary. I'm a board member of the REACH Institute in New York. And the whole point of that is so that cutting edge research doesn't get left for two or three generations before it reaches the people that need it. So can I just share with you one more story? And it's a very personal one. I met my soulmate, Ninka Moritz, and she's from Denmark, just two and a half years ago. Her oldest son, he'd been thrown out of, sorry, her youngest son, he'd been thrown out of
Starting point is 00:16:46 five schools in Denmark. And when I met him, I could see a bright guy that had learned nothing, huge maths anxiety, and he just didn't know anything about science and so on, but clearly had got intellect. Well, to cut a long story short, he's actually at the school I own in England right now. But the most important thing that happened is that he did the Zing program. And all of the reasons he was misunderstood, all of his inability to learn has been transformed. He'd got a perfect brain waiting for the cerebellum to be wired up so that his learning circuits were activated. He's caught up in two years. He's doing what in England is called the GCSE exams right now, and they're predicting he's going to pass a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Well, and I've talked to his mother, and she is just a raving fan of your work. So stay with us. We're in the middle of cerebellum week. When we come back, we're going to talk about how you can activate your cerebellum, your vestibular system to have the best overall brain possible. Stay with us. Use the code podcast 10 to get a 10% discount on a full evaluation at amenclinics.com or on our supplements at brainmdhealth.com. Thank you for listening to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. Go to iTunes and leave a review, and you'll automatically be entered into a drawing to get a free signed copy of the Brain Warriors Way and the Brain Warriors
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