Change Your Brain Every Day - How You Can Use Your Pain To Your Advantage, with Dr. Derwin Gray

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

With so many people's lives thrown into sudden disarray, some are examining what it is that makes life good in the first place. For author/pastor Dr. Derwin Gray, the concepts of happiness and purpose... are intimately connected. In this episode of The Brain Warrior’s Way Podcast, Dr. Gray and the Amen’s touch on why the good life is not about good things happening to you, but about finding your purpose to bring your own good into the world.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. In our podcast, we provide you with the tools you need to become a warrior for the health of your brain and body. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is brought to you by Amen Clinics, where we have been transforming lives for 30 years using tools like brain spec imaging to personalize treatment to your brain. For more information, visit amenclinics.com. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is also brought to you by BrainMD, where we produce the highest quality nutraceuticals to support the health of your brain and body. To learn more, go to brainmd.com. Welcome back. We are still here with our friend, Pastor Derwin Gray. Welcome back, Derwin. I love your story. It's been several times I've heard it,
Starting point is 00:00:58 but every time I hear it, I hear something new. And it's just so inspiring. And so thank you for being here with us. And we want to talk about your new book. Yeah, before we talk about our new book, I sense like God wants to tell me something through you. What is it about my story that connects with your story that encourages you? First of all, the trauma, that's the obvious part is that it's so the original title of my book was One Less Scared Child. And everything you say just resonates so strongly. And I argued with God also. And I actually told Daniel the first time I had an opportunity to help, I said, nope, not doing it, not working with a bunch of drug addicts. I hate drugs and I hate drug addicts. And I said, God picked the wrong person. And he
Starting point is 00:01:42 looked at me with this annoying smile that only husbands and psychiatrists I think have. And he said, God picked the perfect person. And it was really difficult to do. And it was, I realized I had this epiphany. And I was standing on stage still very angry when I was about to speak to these people and I couldn't look at them as the people they were because of my anger. And I had this epiphany. And in that moment, God answered the prayer that I had spoken before I got on stage because I prayed he would soften my heart. How am I going to help people I don't like? And so he softened my heart. And in that moment, I saw these scared children. They were just like me. They were not drug addicts. They weren't criminals. They were just all scared children, just like I was
Starting point is 00:02:31 growing up. They made different turns. They made different decisions somewhere along the line. It got messed up, but we all started off the same. And if I could help even one of them, there'd be one less scared child in the world. And when I hear your story, it reminds me of that. It reminds me of that scared child and overcoming. And you've just done so much to help so many people. It moves me. And you're so humble about it. I wasn't that humble.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I fought it. I wasn't that humble. I fought it. Thank you for sharing that with me because that's helpful for me. And one of the things that I love about God is that he doesn't waste any pain. Nope. He doesn't waste the pain. And like you said earlier, often in our pain, we find purpose. And what the enemy meant for evil, God turns into good. So for whoever is listening, your trauma just may be the trampoline that God uses to touch lives in ways that you can't even comprehend. Like if somebody would have told me I would be talking to you guys, I mean, Dr. Amen, like I pretty much have a bromance with him. Like I am a Dr. Amen fanboy. I'm a fan of yours too. If somebody would have said, look look Dewey from the hood, we'd be talking to the scientific cutting edge of brain scanning imagery. I would say, I don't even know what that is, but God uses
Starting point is 00:04:16 our trauma and to see what you're doing. And I know your next book is just going to be just epic, epic, epic, epic. So thank you for sharing that with me. That blessed me. Thank you. So talk to us about your new book and why you wrote it and what people will get out of it. Yeah. So way back in 2015, as a pastor, so I'm doing counseling, I'm helping people, I'm trying to serve them. And I'm noticing, regardless if they're a Christian or not, regardless of economic status or not, regardless of male or female, there's this theme of, I want to be happy, but I'm not. And they could be incredibly successful or frustrated, wherever it may be, teenagers, 70-year-olds, like there was this sense of, I'm not happy. And so I began to study the scriptures. And so when I got to the Beatitudes, Matthew chapter 5, verses 3 through 12, Jesus opens up the Sermon on the Mount with what's
Starting point is 00:05:18 called the Beatitudes, and he uses the word blessed. And the word blessed in Greek literally is the word makarios, and it means happy. So Jesus says, happy are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are those who lament or grieve, for they will become comforted. And so he describes eight characteristics of a person who is happy. And these characteristics are exactly the characteristics of Jesus. And so the good news is God doesn't say, I want you to go fix your life. He's saying, I want to invite you into my life, into my story. Come as you are, but you won't stay the same.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm going to make you happy. And so happiness is not contingent upon happenings. It's contingent upon this intimacy into me. You see this intimacy with Christ in which he says, I'm going to mold you and I'm going to shape you. And you're going to be someone that looks like me and has a heart and a mind like me. And so it's very much a process. So if I could say it this way, the good life is not about good things happening to you. It's about good God. It's about a good God making you good. And so the happiness that we have transcends circumstances, and it gives us an internal, eternal happiness that fleshes itself out in the present. So the way a theologian would say it is this way, happiness and holiness are two sides of the same coin. And holiness means to become a whole human being. So that's what we're
Starting point is 00:07:07 trying to invite people to experience. And during this pandemic, I mean, I just love the Beatitudes. And so many people are suffering, where they've lost their jobs, they may lose their business, they've lost loved ones. My mom and dad actually ended up with COVID in the hospital in the same room. 88 and 90. 88 and 90. And you know, my brain has gone to the dark place. But I have the discipline to at least question my own thoughts. And the Orange County Register is now doing a story on them because they survived and they beat COVID. And now they can do the shopping for us, right? They're the warriors. But there's so much grief, loss, stress.
Starting point is 00:08:02 How can the Beatitudes comfort people in this time? Yeah, I'm going to zero in on Matthew 5, 4. Happy are those who mourn, they will be comforted. If we don't grieve, we forfeit our growth. Yes. A lot of contemporary Christianity does not leave room for lament or grief. It's happy, happy, happy, happy, happy, but it's the wrong kind of happiness. Sometimes happiness is reflected in God. I wish things were not the way that they are.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I wish that all sad things would become untrue. But even in the midst of this, I know you grieve with me. I know you weep with me because on the cross, you experienced it. But you're comforting me because of the resurrection power that gives me a future hope. But it's a present reality that I can grieve that, man, I mean, I couldn't imagine my son, our daughter's senior year of high school being wiped out, prom, sporting events. I mean, there is a lot to grieve. And I know as Americans, for the most part, we are first world people, we have a lot of comforts, but we still have to be honest about, man, this isn't what I thought it would be.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And God is okay with that. And so our happiness is not this always a static, I'm running around. It's a happiness that is rooted in this confidence in God. I like to call it God-fidence. That even in the midst of grieving, there's a supernatural healing that takes place because we have solidarity with God. We have a God literally who grieves and suffers with us, but we have a God who gives us strength in the midst of it. So that's the first thing. The second thing is, I really sense that during this, not just in America, but worldwide,
Starting point is 00:10:14 I feel like it's like we've built our lives on sandcastles and this wave called COVID just came in and it just wiped it out. And we're uncertain. I mean, the great American economy has been brought to its knees by a virus that's smaller than a grain of sand. Seven million people, jobless claims. We've seen over 10,000 people pass away. That's just in America. And so there's this sense of our equilibrium is off, but I think our listening is off. And I think it's a time for people to press the reset and to seek Jesus afresh. Because sometimes Jesus is presented as a political leader of a political party. Sometimes he's presented as a genie in a bottle. And I think
Starting point is 00:11:06 Jesus wants to meet us on his own terms. And so my doctoral work is in what's called first century second temple Jewish context. And what I try to do is bring people on a journey. Let's talk to Jesus on his own terms where he is, and you'll discover he is more gracious, he is more beautiful, he is more life-giving than you think, and Jesus will jack up your life plan. If somebody would have told me I would be a pastor, are you kidding me? If somebody would have, guys, the first wedding I went to was my own. No one in my family got married. So Jesus will jack up your plans, but it'll make our dreams look like mud pies compared to the difference
Starting point is 00:12:09 he wants to make in people's lives. Listen, not everybody's going to be a power couple like you guys. Not everybody's going to lead a giant church, but everybody is a somebody that Jesus wants to use to influence someone's life. And so the good life is about experiencing life on Jesus's terms of fresh with his grace, his strength. And the weaker we are, the stronger he is in us. Yeah, need him now more than ever when we come back we're gonna talk about more practical steps to lead to good life and you want to say
Starting point is 00:12:56 something well when you asked me something in the beginning about what about your story resonated there was one other thing that is so pertinent to what you're talking about now. And that is, you said that, you know, when you're talking about your stuttering, when you were being called to speak and you said, but God, why are you picking me? I stutter. And I have, you know, I have all of these in your mind, you're going through the reasons why you shouldn't be doing it. And I experienced that very, very same thing.
Starting point is 00:13:24 There were so many times that I, when I, there was a point in my story where I wished that a truck would hit me. I literally was so depressed. I couldn't get out of bed. I, my life had just gone so far off the rails and I wanted to die. And I thought if there is a God,
Starting point is 00:13:39 he doesn't love me. So forget it. Like forget God. And I was just so despondent. But there's no way I could have known that what I was going through then was going to shape who I am now, like the strength and my ability to speak and writing books and helping people. I had to go through that grief to get the insight and the empathy and the strength to do what I do now. And there's no way I could have seen that. Like you said, it's 2020. And it's so important
Starting point is 00:14:10 for people right now going through this process, this grieving, that they are able to have someone that's gone through this that they can watch and go, wait, they've been through a lot. And what they've been through is now why they're where they're at. And it's post-traumatic growth, which is, I believe there's going to be huge post-pandemic growth. And if we pay attention to the pain and what we can learn and not get consumed with ourselves, but look outward to help other people, then your level of stress will go down and your happiness will go up. Stay with us. We're here with Pastor Derwin Gray. You can get a free chapter of his new book, The Good Life,
Starting point is 00:15:04 if you go to thegoodlifebook.net. Stay with us. If you're enjoying the Brain Warriors Way podcast, please don't forget to subscribe so you'll always know when there's a new episode. And while you're at it, feel free to give us a review or five-star rating as that helps others find the podcast. If you're considering coming to Amen Clinics or trying some of the brain healthy supplements from BrainMD, you can use the code podcast10 to get a 10% discount on a full evaluation at amenclinics.com or a 10% discount on all supplements at brainmdhealth.com. For more information, give us a call at 855-978-1363.

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