Change Your Brain Every Day - Kate Hudson Unfiltered: Undiagnosed ADHD, Trauma & the Brain Behind Her Spark (Part 1)

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

What happens when you finally see your brain? In Part 1 of this eye-opening series, actress and entrepreneur, Kate Hudson and her podcast co-host brother, Oliver Hudson, join Dr. Daniel Amen and Tana Amen for their brain scan reveal—and the results are as surprising as they are enlightening. From undiagnosed ADHD and childhood concussions to emotional trauma and a strong sense of purpose, Kate opens up about the invisible forces shaping her mind, motivation, and success. You’ll hear why her brain shuts down when it should turn on, how soccer headers left a lasting impact, and the natural tools she’s using to take control. It’s raw, real, and full of insights for anyone who’s ever struggled to focus—or wondered why life feels harder than it should. Stay tuned for Part 2 when Oliver sees his brain scan for the first time.

Do you have ADD? Absolutely do. Okay. Right. It's not a question in my mind given your history. You're very successful with the brain you have. I wonder how successful you could be with even a better brain. Today on Change Your Brain, it's Kate Hudson. The Hollywood superstar famous for movies like

How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days and Bride Wars. Because I've had success young and I've had wonderful people assisting, I'd have had an executive functioning team. For you, yeah. But for those who don't have that, I couldn't imagine. Kids need to examine who they are

before they start over-medicating their brain and saying they have something or diagnosing themselves. It's okay to have a different brain than other people. It's okay to struggle a little bit more in school. I just did this post. The one question people with ADD should ask but never do, which is... Every day you are making your brain better or you are making it worse. Stay with us to learn how you can change your brain for the better every day.

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and we talked about maybe we should get scanned. Yeah. Then I had a chance to chat with Kate and I'm like, absolutely, would you do our podcast and could we reveal what we see? Of course, within reason on the podcast. So you want to pay attention because today is going to be so fast. We haven't seen anything either. So this is a reveal to us.

Yes. Yes. And I'm so intrigued. I'm like, especially because we did it together. So it's so fun. That's so fun. You know, I- And you guys are two years apart? Yeah, two and a half. Three, yeah. Yeah, I think one of the things we've noticed is it explains so much of your life when you get to see family members together. At least it did for me,

when I saw my mom and my uncle, it's like, oh, this is why my life was so screwed up. I get it. You know what's interesting as well is that you have siblings who've been through the same traumas as my sister and I have and to see sort of from a visual standpoint how that has actually affected us differently because I'm sure it's not the same. Can you see trauma? We do see trauma and I actually see more of it in your brain than in all his brain.

Yes. Oh, I mean, that's terrible. Isn't that common though that women tend to like... Women have busier brains. Yeah. So we tend to process. Yeah. We also deal with, it's a lot more of a traumatic existence being female. Well, having five sisters and five daughters, I take some issue with that.

Wow. That's also wild. That's a whole podcast. When I first met Tana, because today we're going to talk about ADD. I'm sorry. Which we both have now. Which you both have. It's not even like a little. So it'd be so fun. When Tana and I first

met, our first conversation, she goes, you think I have ADD, don't you? I'm like, why are you shrinking me? You think I've got ADD? Stop it. She almost canceled her first date. Really? When she found out I was a psychiatrist, she thought I was a neurologist. When she found out I was like, not. Nope. Why? Because he, you just didn't want to be analyzed. I didn't want him to shrink me. And I didn't have it. There were so many things about the profession in general that I thought they guessed. And they just, I was a trauma nurse. And so just, it didn't sort of fit my idea of how medicine sort of should work. But then when I started talking to him, I was fascinated because I'm like, wait, why don't,

why don't all psychiatrists do this? I mean, that actually makes sense to me. You're actually looking, I don't understand why everyone's not doing this. And so it was, then I became really intrigued. Yeah. Yeah. Then he became very attracted. Then you were. Yeah. And then I looked at her brain. And then I looked at her brain. I don't know about her even more. So if we go to your goals, you want to know about your brain. I think you've actually never formally been diagnosed with ADD, but you've had suspicions. Oh my God.

Yes. Many, forever suspicions. And so, you know, when I read your history, some of the things I saw was perhaps your family had, there's some ADD in your family and perhaps Ollie had it worse than you do. And sometimes your brain shuts down. This is me. This is you. This is you. Okay. Yeah.

And nobody sees this part but us. Okay. But you can struggle with focus. Yes. And not hyperactivity. No. But in school, you're a procrastinator. Huge.

Everything was the last minute and school was harder than perhaps it should have been. So hard. And impulsivity and short-term memories. Very short-term. Not as good as it could have been. So hard. And impulsivity and short-term memories. Very short-term. Not as good as it could have been. And recently you have been through trauma with the Palisades fire. Yes. Yeah.

Awful. Awful. Yeah. Truly terrible. So I like to think of people always in four circles. So I never go, oh, you have ADD take, riddle. Right. No, no, no. It's what's the biology, which is why we look at your brain. Right. What's this psychology? What was your development like? And I bet there's stories there with both of your development. What's the social circle? Which like, how are your relationships? How does work? How's your money? What's going on with kids? Social circle. And then the spiritual circle,

which most psychiatrists never talk about but it's why do you care? Why do you think you're on the planet? What's your deepest sense of meaning and purpose? So if we started there, how would you answer that? If we started there, what's mine? Yeah. Oh god, I think about this all the time. This is like something I've, I love to think about. To connect, I think about like the thing I love to do the most is to connect with people, whether it be through art or through conversation or connect like actual connection, you know. And I am incredibly optimistic. And I find that because even through things that are challenging,

I seem to deal with them in ways that are optimistic, that people that I know or people that I'm close to are drawn to me to sort of try to understand how I get through life the way I get through life. And so sometimes I feel like maybe my purpose is to help people like feel better about their own purpose. And so connection, I would say connection is always the big word for me. Yeah. Yeah. And to create. I think I have some things to create that I don't even know I've happened yet that can have impact.

If you had a more efficient brain, how would your life be different? Oh my God, I'd probably be a billionaire. I would, if I had a more efficient brain, honestly, it would be leaner. I think my life would be leaner. Things would feel leaner. It would feel like a tight lean ship. I think I would actually finish the things that I start. I hardly finish the things that I start.

And I think I would create more. I would have more things that I would have created. It's like, why did it take me to be in my 40s to make my first album? I think part of that is is fear, but also. Is just getting things done. I love that. Yeah. For my ADT patients, I always have them practice

in the mirror when someone asks them to do something, I have to think about it. Because too often, because they don't have enough activity in their frontal lobes, they just impulsively say yes. And so they say yes, ultimately to too many things. So they don't get the things they really care about done. But if you say, I have to think about that and then go back another exercise I love to do with my patients called the one page miracle.

On one piece of paper, what do you want? Relationships, work, money, physical, emotional, spiritual, what do you want? And so then everything is about does my behavior get me what I want? But if you don't have the break in your brain to go, don't do that because it doesn't fit what you want. You end up with chaos. That makes sense? Oh yeah. So we also did a computerized test that you did for us called total brain. And it said you're really good at recognizing faces. You tend to recognize positive faces a little better than negative faces.

Oh, interesting. But if you get your feelings hurt, it can sort of stick around a little bit. Some stress, clearly not anxious or depressed. Your memory, long-term, short-term, could be better. Flexibility could be better. That just means sometimes it's hard to shift attention. Oh yeah. Big time. I need like, I need like an hour in between meetings. Your planning is freaking phenomenal. Thank you. Oh my God. Your planning. My planning. Your processing speed. She can go home now. Like she's, she's happy. Thank you so much.

Your processing speed is unbelievably good. As far as negativity bias, because you were just talking about being positive. That protects you so much. Actually Ollie's better. Really? He scored higher. Wow. Their resilience, maybe not as good as it could be. We'll talk about why that might be. Okay. All right. Let's talk about your scans.

Okay. So this is a healthy scan. No, this is not even. Okay. Okay. This is our goal. Okay. Full disclosure, there are not many healthy people in the world. Make a list of 20 of your friends and half of them should see me probably. So the images on the left, we're looking at the outside surface. They're going to become the most important for us. And it just should be full, even symmetrical activity. The images on the right, we're looking at the most active parts of the brain.

And it's so blue is average activity, red is the top 15%, white's the top 8%. So white's like super active parts of the brain. And it should be in the back, bottom part of the brain called the cerebellum. So you see all the white and the, if you look at the top left, red, white and blue image, you see at the bottom of it, all that white,

that's the cerebellum. Now, both of you need to play rocket sports. I'm like, not kidding. Really? Both of you have very sleepy cerebellum. I'm terrible at racket sports. I know. I'm great at them.

But the more you do them. I play pickleball. I'm a good athlete too. But the more you do them. Great athlete. So tennis, table tennis, pickleball. It's just good to help because it has turned on the rest of your racketball. Do you play them often?

Yeah. Good. The more you do it, the better it is for you. Interesting. Okay. Okay. So, this is Kate's scan. So here, you can look at here with me.

You actually have a pretty healthy looking brain. Except you had concussions. You can actually see right here, these are your temporal lobes. At some point, your brain got jostled. Tell me about that. Well, it might be a couple of them. I played a lot of soccer. So there's that. And then I had one hit to the brain and like a pool where somebody jumped on my jumped on me and it really hit my head in the back of my head. Here, I think. And I remember thinking like, Ooh, that was intense, but I didn't like, go out, go out or no, I was, it was, it was just, it hit me hard. It was the only time I've ever

felt any like brain head hit other than that. So tell me about soccer. I was a very, I mean, since like I was a little girl to like 11th grade and like very intensely. And how many times you think you hit a soccer ball with your head? She's how I say it's all. It's big time. How many times did you hit a soccer ball with your head? That's a lot. That's a lot.

That's it. Yeah, a lot. That's it. Your brain is soft about the consistency of soft butter. Your skull is really hard and has sharp bony ridges. We have a model. Yeah, let me grab the model. I mean, have you scanned, you know, like David Beckham or saw him saying or just soccer players? Taylor Twelman? Do you

know that name? No, he's one of the American soccer stars? I have Taylor's brand. We have lots of soccer. Because I can imagine, I mean, they spend their life heading off. Look inside the skull. Do you see these sharp bony ridges? And the brain isn't anchored in the skull.

It floats in water. And so just one hit the soccer ball with your head. It's like, boom, boom. And these guys, the part of your brain that was hurt, sit right behind these sharp bony ridges. Now, God and I have discussed this. Why didn't you put soccer? Why didn't you put bumper guards there?

These need bumper guards. And he's like, who knew people would hit soccer balls with their heads? That's ridiculous. Yeah. Well, that's definitely probably where it comes from. Because, you know, I was a very aggressive soccer player too. And I had a lot of like run ins and, you know. So that makes sense. You had run ins?

What does that mean? Yeah, like with people, like I would like, you know, get hurt all the time. I got ball, like the ball to my head, girl kicked it right in my head one time. Oh boy. So here's the money picture. Here's the money picture. It's fun. When you try to concentrate your brain drops and activity.

Yeah. What does that mean? The harder you try, the worse it gets. That's right. That's right. That makes sense. I have to really, really figure out how to focus. And you need like last minute, you need somebody to be mad at you. You need stress in order to get stuff done. But the chronic stress is bad for you. Yes, that's right. Like, like if I try to read a script, like just let's just say a script, if someone's like, you have to read the script and I'm like, okay, and then there's a million other things that I never get to it.

And I'm like, oh my God, I forgot to read the script. And then next year, it's like, you have to read the script by tomorrow. And I'm like, okay, and then I'll sit down and finally read it. But I have, I've gotten better at this in the last, I'd say four years, starting to get a little bit better because I'm finding tools like speechify. So you see these holes? You don't have holes in your brain. What that means is there's less blood flow when you try to use your brain.

So it's sort of like people who need glasses, you know, people who need glasses aren't dumb, crazy or stupid. Their eyeballs are shaped funny and they wear glasses so they can focus. People have ADD, aren't dumb, crazy or stupid. Their brain shuts down when it should turn on. So we have to figure out what are the right glasses for your brain. And then really we see your temporal lobes just got whacked when you were young and it shows up much clearer when you concentrate.

Oh, interesting. So one of the things I think you should go on a hyperbaric chamber about 40 or 50 times. It's not that bad. No, I love it. Meaning it's the cylinders not like right here. It feels like a cocoon to me. There's one. I'll show you ours before. Yeah, I saw yours. That's like, that's like, I went, I'm just like, Oh my God. You have these new ones that you sit in that are all glass. I think I can handle that. You know, where you sit in there and you do work and Does it put you at a certain atmosphere? You saw the one we have here? Yeah. The one that I didn't see? No.

we have here or one in Encino? I think it was I walked by chambers here. Yeah. And I was like, because they're because I could hear like, funny for me, I actually got one put in my house during COVID. And I'm like, I can't hear you. Everyone will keep trying to bug me. I'm like, I can't hear you. How long do you have to stay in per session? What's an hour or an hour and a half? It just helps to heal.

Yeah. And it's why I love it so much. You can go in there and meditate. You can go in there and read your script. You can like, And with the new chambers, you can bring in your phone if you have to. So do you have ADD?. Yeah. Right. So, do you have ADD? Absolutely, you do.

Okay. Right. It's not a question in my mind, given your history and given what I see on your scans, you're very successful with the brand you have. I wonder how successful you could be with even a better brain. Exciting possibilities. Yeah. Plus, you know, as we age, this doesn't get better. And so six months from now, a year from now, 10 years from now, your brain can be way better than it is now. How exciting is that?

Yeah, that's great. I'm into it. Now, if we look at the active part of your brain, your brain is really sleepy. Your emotional brain is busy. And here it's like a diamond pattern. And that's past emotional trauma. Many people have ADD have a lot of past emotional trauma just because of some of the decisions

they made or they were raised by people who have ADD. And so there's some chaos that could go with some of the decisions perhaps that were made. But again, when you concentrate, it drops. So for whatever you could talk about, does that resonate at all? Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're right on the money. Clearly, you know what you're doing, doctor. Yeah. No. Yeah, completely. I mean, explain this again. So, I published a very large study on post-traumatic stress disorder and

on post-traumatic stress disorder and adverse childhood experiences. So on a scale of zero to 10, how many difficult things happened to you when you were growing up? Right. And I think you were three and you were four. If I remember right, we'll look. What does that mean? Well, actually I can look right now. When we were divorced.

Three and four. When? Two and four, three and five. I was 18 months. So it's a scale can look right now. When we were divorced. Three and four. When? Two and four, three and five. I was 18 months. So it's a scale of zero to 10. So you're four. Oh, scale.

So ACE stands for Adverse Childhood Experiences. So on a scale of zero to 10, how many bad things happened when you were growing up, whether it's physical, emotional, sexual abuse, neglect, losing a parent through divorce, having a parent struggle with a mental health problem, addiction, whatever. And people who have four or more have an increased risk of seven of the top 10 leading causes of death. So, the early childhood stress can have a long-term impact, 10 as an eight. She actually wrote a book

about it called The Relentless Courage of a Scary Child. Her first, one of her first memories was she's four years old and her mother and grandmother falling to the floor screaming because her uncle had just been murdered in a drug deal. Oh, God. Oh, wow. So, she and I on the podcast, we talk about adverse childhood experiences. And I just published a huge study and we saw this diamond pattern when there's early trauma. So here you like things a certain way.

That's called the anterior cigulate gyrus, sort of the brain's gear shifter. And when it's busy, things can loop in your head. If you get upset, they can loop. And these are an area called the basal ganglia. They can go with anxiety. And when we see that pattern altogether, we go, oh. And so EMDR, have you ever done EMDR? It's a specific psychological treatment for past trauma.

In fact, we have a nonprofit foundation called the Change Your Brain Foundation and we just donated a hundred evaluations for firefighters because of the LA fire. Every day is somebody, every day they work, they're with somebody's worst day of life. So they have a lot of trauma and then they have the toxic exposure from all the chemicals and smoke and so on. But EMDR might be really helpful to you just to sort of calm that down. Okay. And then when you concentrate, just like your other scan, it drops an activity. Or you try the worst it gets. And so our goal should be to prevent that from happening. Sort of balance your brain and then stimulate it.

When you try to use it, we can try to do it naturally. There's things like neurofeedback can help. We can actually train your brain. Medication can help. Have you ever tried ADD medicine? Never, never. I mean, I've had a million people tell me. My wife's on by-vance.

They're like, have you ever tried it? And I'm like, I, you know, I'm a very natural person, you know, so. Yeah, but you wear glasses. But I wear glasses. Yes. But. And I own a supplement company.

So I'm always thinking, is there supplements I can do? And we'll try them. Yeah. We have one called Focus and Energy. I have another one. Peak Energy. Peak Energy that I think is just so helpful. But if they don't work like you hope.

I just did this post. The one question people with ADD should ask but never do, which is because, you know, if I go maybe concerta or Ritalin or Adderwal would be helpful for you. And they'll go, what are the side effects? Could lose some weight, decreases your appetite. For some people make some anxious, for some people they get headaches or tummy aches, for some people it keeps them up if they take it too late. The question they don't ask is what are the side effects of not taking it?

Right. And there are things like divorce, incarceration, chronically low self-esteem because you know you should be farther than you are. You just told me who I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that entirely. Interesting. Right. Right. Does that make sense?

Yes, it does. So we need you on meds and get in the chamber. So what do I think? So basically, I am the perfect candidate for medication, is what you're saying. There's things to try, but I would maybe be the kind of brain that you would see that said that that's something that it would really

benefit from. Yes. Interesting. Like if it was really getting in the way of my life. Correct. Yeah. So my first spec scan 35, 34 years ago was on a woman. She came to the hospital with a suicide attempt and it was a drama suicide attempt because She got in a fight with her husband the night before. And she had an eight-year-old son who had ADD. That's one of the first clues for women because they don't have the hyperactivity that a lot of boys have. And as I was listening to her, she had an IQ of 144 but never finished college because it was last minute. She goes, well, I'd have a test

and I wouldn't realize till the night before. And I just come home from a date and that's 11 o'clock at night, I put on a cup of coffee. That's how I did college. I'm like, I think you have ADD. And she goes, our adults can't have ADD. And I had just gone to my first lecture on brain-spectrum imaging. I'm like, let me look at your brain. And she had a brain virtually identical to yours.

Really? And when I explained it to her, she started to cry. And she said, you mean it's not my fault? Yeah. Then she went back, finished college, was nicer to her husband. It's interesting because back then too, things were not nearly as diagnosed or studied as they are now. And then I've heard some similar stories where once people discover that they actually have ADD, then there is some relief and they take it off of themselves. Now I feel like we are so in tune with sort of what ABD is. It's seemingly everyone has it based on social media.

You know what I mean? Like, or inundated with it in my algorithm anyways, ADD, ADHD, my wife is constantly sending me stuff, you know. But that'll change your algorithm. Yeah, 100%. She sends you something. Of course, yes. Right. sending me stuff, you know. But that'll change your algorithm. Yeah, 100%. She sends you something. Of course.

Yes. And there is more because of social media and because of our devices and our addictions. But you can tell, is it societal induced ADD that really in school 35 years ago, you did fine. Then it's societally induced ADD. If it was like, no, school was really hard for me and I didn't live up to my potential

and you can see ADD in your family, it's like, and then we see it on your scans. It's like, that's really, yeah. It's so interesting because I have these moments where, like, it's like, I'll have a day where it's like my brain is completely functioning perfectly. Like I'm reading well, I'm focused, getting everything done. But the next day, it's literally like...

Almost like a hangover? It's like a hangover. It's like my brain's like, I can't function. So clearly you guys are both very successful. And I remember when I met him and I'm like, you think I have ADD? And he's like, and because he's kept asking me these questions, he's like, so let me get this straight.

You have to drink almost two pots of coffee a day. I was a trauma nurse. He's like, you have to exercise for two hours to clear the cobwebs. He's going through this whole thing. And I'm like, oh, stop it. Like ADD is an excuse to fail. I thought it was an excuse to fail. I thought it was what people

said when they didn't want to do something or they were lazy. And what I didn't realize is that after I finally did buy into this ADD idea and realized that I actually indeed did have it, I was already successful, but I was working way harder than I needed to. And I didn't know it. Like you don't know what you don't know. It's just, it can be so much easier than you think. And then all of a sudden you start meeting your potential and I'm like, I didn't even know I could do that. Right. You know, I didn't know I could write books and you know, so. That's so interesting.

Yeah. And you said, if you think I'm bad, you should see my mom. if you think I'm bad, you should see my mom. Because then explain why she's an eight out of 10. Because I think undiagnosed, untreated ADD leads to trauma in generations of people. And I was determined not to have that happen with my kids. That was my big reason for like looking into it. Yeah. So I want you to send me your labs. We have a supplement all of us here love called Peak Energy. It really helps with focus.

We'll give you that. Really? Neuralink is made with 5-HTP to help you be more flexible. GABA to sort of calm down that diamond. And L-tyrosine, which is the amino acid building block for dopamine. So, I think for your brain, that could be really helpful just to help you feel more balanced. I think if you wanted to try ADD medicine, I'd be for it. You have the perfect brain for it. And you know, and if it doesn't work, it's like you try it for a couple of weeks and it's like,

Are there different kinds of ADD medicine, right? I mean, there's the Adderalls and there's, you know, the Vivants and blah, blah, blah. Adderall and Vivants are actually cousins to each other. They're actually basically the same thing. That's just in different preparation. I think of Adderall-based medicines and then methylphenidate or Ritalin-based medicines. They're very similar. I tend to like Concerta because I think it's just very effective but less harsh and sort of smooth on and smooth off. So I know all ADD doctors have their own thing.

It's just my experience. But if it doesn't work like we hope, try Adderall or slow release Adderall or Bivance. But I think you've been operating at like half efficiency. Wow. And when now this is very important. It's kind of exciting though, right? It is and it's not.

She might not have a family. Everyone might leave. Everyone might leave. It's like, oh, she's at a hundred percent now. Well, no, we're not trying to make you mad. We're, we're, or. That's so funny. Yes, no, we don't want many.

But this is very important. Visual. Many women, especially when they get diagnosed at 46, they get really excited, they get more effective, and then they get depressed. And the depression comes from what would have happened if I would have known this earlier. And they begin to mourn the loss of what could have been. Right. That's not a medicine issue. I won't have to. I don't think so. Yeah.

I feel pretty good about where I'm at right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, I mean, yes. I think it's the way you look at life in general. Yeah. Yeah. Psychological place.

I think it'll be fascinating because, I mean, I look forward to it, you know, cause I've done so much in my 46 years. So it's like, I don't even know how much I could have had more on my 46 years. So it's like, I don't even know how much I could have had more on my plate. You know, it's not more on your plate. It's just, it's how hard it is done in a more efficient way. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I just remember looking back and going,

you know, that didn't need to be quite that hard. Right. Oh, so interesting. And the chatter in your head tends to become nicer. And then there's some other supplements. I really like either Bright Minds powder. If you like shakes, you should also be on Omega-3 fatty acid. If you're not, you should be. Okay. I'm on an Omega-3 fatty acid. If you're not, you should be. Okay. I'm on an Omega-3.

Good. But you know, it's so funny because I've been taking all these supplements and doing all this stuff. And then, and then lately... Vaughn's dead. Lately, I've just stopped taking all my supplements. I don't know why. It's like, you know, I do know why. just stopped taking all my supplements. I don't know why. It's like, you know, I do know why. But yeah, I'll go back on all my supplements. Tanner Iskra Well, let me, I'll design a program.

Jennifer Llewellyn Yeah. Okay, great. Because I've had success young and I've had people, wonderful people assisting. It's like I've had an, I'd have had an executive functioning team Team. Team. Yeah. So I have it there, you know, and so I've been able to like lean on it. So I've been very lucky that I've been able to have that. But for those who don't have that, you know, I couldn't imagine. Well, many women who have ADD become business owners. Yeah. And they, because they have so many ideas. They're like so bright and they have so much

energy and so many ideas. And they're much more successful if they hire someone to help them that doesn't have ADD. If they hire someone. I learned that. That's what I do. To help them that has ADD is not helpful. I always say, I just need an operator. Just like, give me a great operator, you can get it executed, get it done. From now on when you hire, you're like, first you're going to see a doctor.

Yeah, you have to have OCD before you go. You gotta scan this, make sure you don't have ADD. Exactly. I love that. So looking at bright minds, the interventions are similar, right? Blood flow, exercise, which you do, right? The supplements that we'll talk about, you always, the RS, retirement and aging, you always wanna be involved in new learning and projects. You love that.

Inflammation, how are your teeth? Are you good at taking care of them? Make sure you don't have- I'm obsessed with my water pick. Good. Love my water pick, love my flossing. Genetics, just be serious about preventing any problems you have in your family.

Like I have obesity and heart disease in my family. I'm not overweight and I don't have heart disease because I'm on a prevention program every day of my life. Protect your head, avoid exposure, limit the alcohol. Think dirty is an app. Love that app. You know that app? Yes.

Yes. Yes. Saunas, avoid toxic food, toxic products. The mental health, I always call killing the ants, automatic negative thoughts that steal your happiness. Rebuilding dopamine centers, fame wears out the pleasure centers in your brain because it's like cool thing, cool thing, cool thing. That pretty soon the cool things are not as cool anymore because your dopamine centers begin to get worn out. There are days when I need to be at my best, whether it's back to back clinic sessions,

long writing days, or just keeping up with life. That's when I take Geek Energy from BrainMD. It gives me clean, steady energy without jitters or crashes. And I'm not the only one who loves it. It just won a 2025 Nexty Award, beating over 500 other supplements. If you want real energy that lasts, check it out at brainmd.com and use the code podcast20 for 20% off. Well, that was just so interesting and so much fun.

Thank you so much. You've been listening to the Change Your Brain Everyday podcast with Kate and Oliver Hudson. And we're just like fascinated by the sibling brains here. So we're going to do a second episode. So stay tuned.