Change Your Brain Every Day - She Lost Her Arm But Found a Stronger Brain. Bethany Hamilton's Incredible Post-Traumatic Growth Journey

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

What if your greatest trauma could literally reshape your brain and your life for the better? After surviving a shark attack that took her arm at just 13 years old, Bethany Hamilton became a global s...ymbol of resilience. But what actually happened inside her brain? In this powerful conversation, Bethany sits down with renowned psychiatrist and brain imaging expert Dr. Daniel Amen, alongside Tana Amen, to explore the science behind her extraordinary post-traumatic growth. For the first time, Bethany examines her brain through advanced imaging, uncovering how faith, purpose, resilience, and intentional habits may have transformed her mind after unimaginable adversity. Together, they dive into the neuroscience of trauma, healing, grit, motherhood, high performance, and why some people don't just recover—they grow stronger. Whether you've experienced loss, trauma, or simply want to build a healthier brain, this episode offers hope backed by both science and an inspiring real-life story. In this episode: Bethany Hamilton's brain scan results with Dr. Daniel Amen The science of post-traumatic growth How trauma can change the brain—for better or worse Faith, resilience, and the mindset behind extraordinary recovery Practical habits for building a healthier, more resilient brain Why purpose is one of the brain's greatest healing tools   This isn't just a story of survival; it's a masterclass in becoming stronger because of what you've been through.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I told people about my shark attacks over and over again for the year following. To the point where, like, I worked through the trauma and I knew I was okay. I didn't have endless nightmares. I didn't have deep fear going into the ocean. The incident was less of the issue, and then all of a sudden, I'm famous, and I hated it. I just wanted to be surfing with my friends, and then all of a sudden I have all this, like, limelight. Bethany Hamilton is a professional surfer, author. Founder of Beautifully flawed foundation and motivational speaker, who's
Starting point is 00:00:30 survived a shark attack at age 13. Losing her left arm before making an extraordinary return to competitive surfing. My foundation beautifully flawed, we work with women and men with limb differences and who have all faced traumatic limb loss. There's a lot of really resilient people out there, but then there's also a lot of heaviness in the room. What did seeing your brain mean to you? I mean, it's...
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Starting point is 00:01:34 That's exactly the kind of progress I love to see because lasting change happens one healthy choice at a time. Visit BrainMD.com and use code podcast 20 for 20% off. Welcome to Change Your Brain Every Day. I'm personally so happy about today. We've got Bethany Hamilton as our guest. She's a professional surfer, author, and speaker. in case you haven't seen the movie's soul surfer.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Her story of faith and resilience has inspired millions, including me and my daughter. At 13, she survived a shark attack, and it took her left arm, but she returned to competitive surfing within just weeks. And today, she helps families live in an unstoppable life of courage and hope. Welcome, Bethany. We're so excited to have you here. Thanks for having me. Glad to be here. So tell me your goal.
Starting point is 00:02:25 When you sort of learned about Amen Clinics, what was your goal? and coming here. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I feel like I've had such a resilient life. But then this last couple of years, it's just been such a hard season that I feel like I was like kind of hitting walls of like, okay, something's catching up to me. Like there's some things that are off. Like just nervous system, like way more like reactive and just having a hard time
Starting point is 00:02:56 working through challenge, like kind of challenge coming by my way. I'm feeling like very overwhelmed by it. And I think, you know, when you face like hardship after hardship after hardship, I'm really curious from your, from your experience, like what helps people to be more resilient? Because I am pretty resilient, but then I'm like, I don't feel resilient right now. Yeah, sort of the picture of resilience. Yeah, like I don't want to be stuck. But still, you're human.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, for sure. And I mean, one of my questions is how did you bounce back from that terrible tragedy? Yeah. And one of the things I read was fame was way harder than the shark attack. So interesting. And I'm actually friends with Paul Simon, the songwriter, and he said fame is lethal. Yeah. One of the things he told me.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I definitely have a lot of compassion on, you know, you see the news blurps of like celebrities struggling, and they're just in such a limelight. And it's just this weird, bizarre culture of fame. And I'm like, I feel less judgmental towards them because I get it and I get how it can kind of drive you crazy, especially if you don't have something that grounds you and holds you fast through that kind of odd way of life. But yeah, like, it's interesting. Like, my shark incident happened, and I feel like I had a really unique resiliency to that. And I was talking with one of your coworkers, but he was, I was sharing how I shared my story so much. Like, I told people about my shark attack, like, over and over again for the year following. To the point where, like, it was almost like I worked through the trauma and I knew I was okay. and I remember reading this book because I'm a mother now of poor children and so I'm trying to like, you know, figure out how to mother well reading different books. But it was, what was the book?
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's the whole brain child and they talked about how, like talking about the trauma and then reminding yourself that you're okay is so helpful for children. And I was like, oh, maybe that's why I handled the shark incident so well. because I really like, you know, I didn't have endless nightmares. I didn't have deep fear going into the ocean, at least after a while. You know, I had to overcome fears for sure. But the incident was less of the issue. And then as a young, awkward kind of teenager growing up, and then all of a sudden I'm famous.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I never really loved attention. And then all of a sudden there's all this attention on my life. And I hated it. I just wanted to be surfing with my friends, kind of like your typical teenager, and then all of a sudden I have all this, like, limelight. Did you feel like your world kind of shrank, or did you feel like you didn't know how to get away from it? I had fighter flight. Like, I just didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I wanted to run. But then I simultaneously had, I want to help people. And then I got letters from people saying, like, hey, if you can get back on your board, I can get back on mine. And I was like, whoa, that's so cool. So it propelled me to share my story. And then I wrote my book thinking, oh, I won't have to share my story anymore. They can just read it. But I was just like a teenager.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, that's not how that works. And then a little did I know I had to do a book tour to promote the book. So there were just funny little things along the way. But the fame aspect was really rough. And I still don't like it. Like I choose a certain life because I know I can hide from it in a sense. Like I live in Hawaii. There's quiet beaches.
Starting point is 00:06:44 There's always a corner you can find yourself. especially surfing too. I go to the surf as like kind of my outlet. I hang with my babies. We plan the sand, the grass, the dirt. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:58 What I just, I personally am interested. Like, how much did Faith play a part in you being able to overcome what you overcame? Well, that's why I mentioned that earlier. I was like, if you don't have something that grounds you
Starting point is 00:07:13 and you're in the limelight, you know, you see that, these celebrities coping through drugs and alcohol and various means. And I think for me, as a young woman, I coped through faith, through surfing, through connection with people. Definitely my faith in God. Like, I knew life wasn't over. Like, I knew there was so much more to be lived, even though my arm was gone. I had a greater hope than myself and my own abilities and my own strength, so to say. I just trusted that God would work in and through this season and this challenge.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Plus you had passion. You had purpose. Passion, purpose, drive. Yeah. Yeah, I really love. So I'm working on a new book that's coming out in February called The Neuroscience of the Lord's Prayer. I saw a post you did recently, and I love that. There's so much of your story in the Lord's Prayer from, you know, thy kingdom come,
Starting point is 00:08:14 thy will be done. And you can just see that. in your life. And it's like little do we know that we're praying when we say thy will be done, right? Like we think we actually want our own will. Most of the time, half of our prayer life is our will. It's not the Lord's will. But imagine if we really.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But that's the trick is getting them together. Yeah. How do we balance that that? That he can even take a shark attack and turn it into something magnificent. But it doesn't mean the rest of your life is just fine. Right. Right. As a wife and a mother and someone who's running a business and then you have business challenges.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Right. Right. So if we look at this. I feel like over the last five years, I've faced like all the challenges under the sun that you could face. When you think of like a lot of the pillars like struggles in motherhood, struggles in marriage. struggles in business, losing money, like losing a loved one, almost losing another loved one,
Starting point is 00:09:22 like a lot of hardship back to back to back, like where the brain was just stretched to the matter. And that's where our habits, our daily habits protect us or don't protect us. Right. Right. Or they don't protect us. And the actual physical health of your brain, which I'm going to show you, matters. ton in managing stress. And very few people ever think about that. So we'll get to that. But what I'm really curious about is in the paperwork, you said, oh, yeah, I have ADD. And so I want to know what you were like before the shark attack.
Starting point is 00:10:07 What would your teachers have said? What would your mom have said? tell me about Bethany before the assault. My mom would probably say I was, you know, like my parents spanked a bit, but I was like, a child that didn't get spanked. I know that's very controversial today. But I was always, but I wouldn't say I was like a goody to shoot people pleaser. Like I just genuinely like doing the right thing maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Well, it's okay to go. Oh, I learned from my supervisor. Yeah. Because no child, I'm also a child psychiatrist, no child wakes up and go, I'm going to make mommy cry today. Right. Right. They generally react out of their habits that we teach them.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Okay. So you were sort of a good kid. I love to like work at life to the best of my ability. It was like thriving in a lot of aspects. So teachers would have said... I was very well... I was up in the class. Teachers probably loved to me.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Because, you know, when you think of ADD, you think of active, impulsive, distracted kids. But girls, it's the distracted part. It's not often, except my daughter, the hyperactive, impulsive part. You know she's watching. Not hyperactive, not impulsive. You did well in school. Maybe a little impulsive in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Like going for the crazy waves last second. Risk taking, yes. So the risk taking was there. I liked thrill and risk. Yeah, the big wave surfers. We did Sean Dollar. He did our program and he is a big wave surfer. Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Mercedes is another female surfer. Both of them had wicked. brain injuries. Whoa. Yeah. People don't really think of surfing and brain injuries, but they're very common. No, it's super common. And it's cool because a lot of people are starting to come out more, like, publicly working
Starting point is 00:12:24 through their concussions. And there's like, I have a handful of people I'm thinking off the top of my head who are people I've surfed with over the years. And we live right next to the wedge. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Talking about that. You're like concussions.
Starting point is 00:12:40 day every day. We're like, no. What did you say? Could they give you a million dollars and you get out there? Well, the waves were over 20 feet. No, I would not go out there during that time. No, it was crazy. So before the shark attack, sort of a normal, good, excited, driven child that loved surfing. Yes. Because you wonder how, what in life prepared you to survive that without becoming a psychiatric patient? I mean, like, it's interesting because my foundation beautifully flawed. We work with women and men with limb differences and who have all often faced traumatic limb loss. I feel like there's a lot of really resilient people out there and people I've met over the years working through their challenges. but then there's also a lot of heaviness in the room,
Starting point is 00:13:37 a lot of struggles and pain and hardship and maybe suicidal tendencies. So it's like, you know, what helps one to get through those seasons? You know, I'm just, it almost makes me want to go and examine all the people going through our retreats. Why are some post-traumatic growth and some have post-traumatic stress? Right. You know, what's the difference? When we always think of people, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:14:04 four big circles. What's the biology? So there's a term I like called brain reserve. What's the extra tissue you have in your brain to deal with these kinds of stresses? So how healthy or not this is. Did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you? Did you get good food? Did you have learning opportunities?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Was there alcoholism in the family? And you ended up with you. head injuries. What's the psychological makeup of a person? Do you believe every stupid thing you think? We don't really train children how to manage their minds, what's your relationships like, and what's your soul like your relationship with God, with the planet, with the past, with the future, that we all have a spiritual side that most psychiatrists never talk. about. And so it sounds like spiritually you're grounded, you were connected, you were positive. And we actually tested your positivity. I'll show you. And so in all four circles, she seemed
Starting point is 00:15:19 to be pretty well connected compared to many people. Right. And some things people don't really think about is, yes, there was the attack, but then there was surgery. And general anesthesia is not very good for people's brains. I just, my trainer, he had shoulder surgery. He said, my brain will never be the same. And I went, absolutely not. We probably should scan you and then we should fix the damage.
Starting point is 00:15:49 So anyways, it's those four circles. Do you ever get inspiration fatigue where you just like, I know that's a weird term, but where you're so inspiring to people. But, you know, people want to always sort of reach out to you and almost like, does that ever feel like it's just sort of pulling at your energy where it's like. Totally. Like I'm like, I'm just topped out on giving. And I think too, now being a mother of four, I'm like giving all day, every day. So then when you have these outside sources
Starting point is 00:16:20 wanting you to give too. And it's not really like a healthy give a lot of the time. So it's like, just give me something real quick for my own satisfaction. It's not like a genuine, healthy interaction, it's more of like a suck. I'm already like kind of sucked. Even though I do give myself time too. Like I make time to go surf. I make time. If I'm not surfing, I'm going for a beach walk or a movement or doing something for myself. But you can feel your body kind of telling you not today. Like it's enough. And yet you can't tell people that. And then sometimes I'll kind of just be like, I would say the last year, well, I would say I've gotten it a little more under control through some of my own just explorations. Like my vagus nerve system was like probably really
Starting point is 00:17:08 fried. So I do a vagus nerve stimulator. And that helps a lot. Breathing. Making sure I just have healthier habits like waking up with the sun, going to bed with the sun, eating well, eating enough. I eat like a mineral rich diet. I try to do a lot for myself. And you do something called Rolfing. And then I've just gone down the Rolfing money trail. Tell people about why you do that and what it is. When I was pregnant with my fourth, I think it was, yeah, my fourth. My birth went amazing. Like, I was ready to push and I was like, there's no way I'm ready to push.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm not at my pain threshold. So my body was a lot more aligned going into my fourth pregnancy. all my births were very similar, but my fourth was like the least painful. And I was just mind-blown by that because I'm like, anything we can do to mitigate the pain of child rearing and birth is amazing. So baby came out and I ended up doing a full 10 series of rolfing with someone I found while I was pregnant. She did safe rolfing while pregnant because you have to be careful.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Yeah. But she was very gifted and knew exactly kind of how to approach. She went really more mild, but I was still, my body was way more aligned. And I'm constantly battling alignment issues, having one arm and surfing with one arm and carrying babies with one arm and all the things. There's just a lot, you know, to work at. And so I did this raw thing. And there was just so much emotional release in that. And it was also a very emotional traumatic season.
Starting point is 00:18:52 just going through a lot personally, like everything under the sun. I mentioned all the things that we went through. But I just felt like throughout my 10 series, at one point I had like the cerebral fluid released to my brain. Like I was like on a high, like as if there was a blockage in my spinal fluid or something. And then maybe even like she worked on my vagus nerve area. And she suspects, she actually went to the Amen Clinic recently, inspired. by my husband, I think, because we were looking into ideas of like, let's do a brain scan
Starting point is 00:19:27 to make sure you didn't, like, what your concussions resulted in. So my husband was actually the main reason we came here because he had a lot of concussions and he's just been going through some life challenges. But yeah, so the raw thing is primarily focusing on fascia, but it realigns the body and the spinal alignment. And I've fallen in love with it. Like, I feel like So it's alignment, also really deep tissue massage. It's really deep tissue work, very painful. And they work from your toes to your head, like literally in your mouth, in your nose, just head to toe realignment of the fascia, which naturally manipulates like the body's alignment.
Starting point is 00:20:12 So rather than working with the spine or muscles. So I've done chiropractic over the years, done massage. and whatnot. I've done a lot of cross-training. I do a lot as a professional athlete, former professional athlete. And then I've always just been really curious and explorative myself. And then, too, having one arm, I just approach things differently because I have to fight that dis-misalignment. So when I found Rolfing, I was like, whoa, this is a missing piece in my life that I love it. It's so interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So you sort of listed the stresses from naturally being a rescuer. Yes. Yeah, I've had, I feel like I'm like stuck in this rescuer mode. Like, I want to rescue everyone around me. And to a certain extent, it's been a blessing for those around me. Like, my brother would probably be dead today. He's four years older than me. he hit like a climatic storm with his health.
Starting point is 00:21:18 He had a ton of concussions, probably or a spinal whiplash over the years. And then he got laid adult. Was that surfing? He's like a big wave. Like he loves the wedge. Like he's the guy that's surfing the wedge and getting like whiplash damage. He's that guy. Like surf the crazy waves that no one wants to surf.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Like I remember one time we're in Tahiti and he's paddling out to this wave and I'm like, you're probably going to die. I love you. bye. But like there's no stopping him. But yeah, he almost died a few years ago. We see those guys every day getting slammed into the sand. Yeah. It's crazy. And so anyway, his body hit a climatic storm. He was basically on his deathbed. And then we ended up sending him to get stem cell treatment at CPI Institute in Mexico. And that saved his life. Like within five weeks, it was a dramatic shift from like, he might not wake up. And then he went from like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 dying to fully functioning, still with a lot of health issues for sure, but like could go back to work within like two months. Every clinician deserves training that truly changes lives. One of our students said, this curriculum has been invaluable to my practice. I've seen improved outcomes and have created more effective treatment plans. I love hearing that because better trained clinicians mean healthier patients, and that's how we change the future of mental health, one practice at a time. Explore the elite brain health certification program at amon university.com. And then we lost like a large amount of money, like with poor business endeavor, like someone and kind of doing poor business with us on our behalf, with poor contracts, and, like,
Starting point is 00:23:15 just the sort of stress that, like, no one should live all within it. Like, I feel like the amount of stress we've had in the last five years has been, like, a lifetime of stress. And, like, I still feel pretty resilient. I still, like, look forward to life. And, like, I'm excited to wake up and go. but I also feel like way more negative than I used to be. She's probably wondering when is this going to end?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like, when is this? Just like, like, I don't want to wake up and think like negative thoughts, especially towards those around me. Or like, I don't want to be judgmental and harsh on those around me. I want to be like loving, peaceful and like supportive. But sometimes that feels really hard. Well, the fact that you want to be as good. And is it worse around your cycle?
Starting point is 00:24:11 For sure. Like the week before my period, like I would say my period feels pretty healthy. Like it's not painful. It's five days. It's consistent. But then I would say like five or seven days before my period, I feel like like intense, angry kind of like a person. Yeah. I have five sisters.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And we've got lots of. And I have scans. like right before your cycle and then 11 days later during the best time for some women. I mean, not everybody. It doesn't look like the same person, right? Yeah, no, it's the first time you really believe in multiple personality disorder. I was actually like filling out the form this morning in the clinic and I'm like, well, it depends on the time of the month. Like I'm pretty positive this time of the month.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And then other times not so much. Right, because even though you're a superstar. I would say a lot of the pain the last five years, like even on the high of the month will still hit me hard. Right. It's still real pain. It's just going to be magnified to how you experience it, how you sit with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. It's not like the pain's not magnified is the right word. So prior to period, magnified that much more. Just harder to shift focus too. Yeah. Yeah. Let me show you some of the testing. So we do a study called spec and spec looks at blood flow.
Starting point is 00:25:36 an activity, looks at how your brain works. It's different than a CAT scan or an MRI. They look at the structure of your brain. We look at how it functions. And here's an example of a healthy scan. So we're going to compare yours to this one. We're looking underneath the brain just like this. This is the prefrontal cortex.
Starting point is 00:26:00 It's very important for you. Focus, forethought, judgment, planning. Empathy learning from the mistakes you make. Really important. Temporal lobes. So memory. Your cerebellum, which is coordination, and obviously wildly coordinated.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It should be the most active part of the brain. For yours, it's sleepy. And I wonder if that's the concussion that affected the front part of your brain. Because sometimes if you hurt this, it turns off that. So if I activate it, you'll actually be a better surfer. Okay. Let's go. I'm trying to maintain longevity and surf, so that's like part of my goal with everyday life.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So when we look at your skin, you have a beautiful brain, but it got hurt. See this here? There's only one thing that gives that pattern. You had a concussion at some point. Whoa. So is that from. The shark attack, it's on the left side. You got attacked on your left side.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Could be. Who knows? And it's incredibly violent. And not only did he get your arm, your head must have been wickedly affected. Yeah, I don't know. How long was the attack? Super vast.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So it's like you grabbed your arm, left. Yeah, super fast. And then you can also see this little dent here. The rest of your ring looks great. I can tell if you do what I say, will it get better? And this is, if you do what I say, it can be much better. So here it is today. And this isn't dead. Yeah. It's sleeping. And so we can activate it. We just did a podcast with. our friend Tarek El Mousa who does house flipping shows. Oh, yeah. And his brain was terrible.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Whoa. In fact, we called it extreme makeover brain edition because his whole brain looked awful. His brain did not look like this. And then a year later. Did he have some sort of sport background? Yours is good. No, he had a traumatic birth. And then he also had a lot of other substances.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, substances. Yeah. But a year later was so much back. Wow. So there's so much hope, but this, when it's hurt, can go with more negativity, can go with some impulsivity, some distractibility. Very distractible. And you were not sort of the ADD girl before the accident.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Interesting. But you were sort of afterwards. And some of that is fame. Fame wears out. the dopamine centers in your brain? I also want to know too, like social media. Like I'm very active on social media. It's highly addictive.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like I would say I'm definitely a struggle to not click, you know. And I feel like that doesn't, are you seeing that way more in people? Yeah. In brains and my issues. I want you to think we have to sort of repair the pleasure centers in your brain. Right. Fame wears them out. And then if you add social media and...
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. And then I wonder if I have like addictive tendencies more towards like, you know, like I have healthy outlets, like surfing, working out, like pursuing fun. But almost like too much, you know, like I run from my issues almost. I'm like busy body. Yeah, escapeism. I always want you to go into your issues rather than medicate them. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:11 However people. However people medicate them. Here's your active scan. So if we go back to what we want it to be, the back part is really active, everything else sort of quiet. The back part of your brain's a bit sleepy. And that could have come from the injury. your anxiety centers are somewhat busy.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I'm not really worried about it. Does the brain, have you done live testing of the brain while praying? I have. What does the brain look like while praying? I got this from a follower on Instagram. I asked them if they had any questions. So I have. Our foundation did a study where we studied conversational prayer.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I pray for you. Speaking in tongues, glossolalia. which is an early church phenomenon that's pretty interesting. Prophecy and discernment and prayer changes the brain. What the Lord's prayer does, it does so many good things for your brain. Our father, it's attachment. So it quiets your emotional brain who aren't in heaven. So when you look up and you have this sense of awe,
Starting point is 00:31:32 it actually does the same thing psilocybin does in the brain or magic mushrooms. And it quiet the negative chatter in your head. One of the things I would want for you is to turn that off. And you turn it off by praying, but also by not believing every stupid thing you think. Do you think women are more prone to believing stupid thoughts? I think women are more prone to. to spin it. Spinning the thoughts.
Starting point is 00:32:04 The female brain has so many advantages, but the disadvantages are, the emotional brain is way busier in the female brain. I published a study on 46,000 brains. Oh, wow. And we're not even the same species. I believe it. Okay, this is a question I've been wanting to ask you. This was the first question my husband asked is he has a really hard.
Starting point is 00:32:32 hard time. Like if he takes magnesium, he just can't tolerate it. But we did a hair mineral test and he's like burning through his magnesium. Have you, like, I feel like magnesium is an essential nutrient. Especially for like overall health and I would assume brain health. Do you have any thoughts there on someone who, like he's tried a variety of magnesium? So he's tried different preparations. Yeah. And what happens when he tries them? Just, he feels like, sick or like has the runs. So if he's having the runs, it's probably magnesium oxide, which is... He's definitely tried ones that are not oxide. Like we've given it a good stab, trying a variety of glycinate, citrate, even small doses. He has a really hard dose of this. So I wonder
Starting point is 00:33:21 if it's not his brain going, I'm going to react to this and then his brain is telling him to have the runs. Interesting. Yeah. Maybe he's like assuming it's going to happen. Yeah. I wonder if there's a gentle one that you might know of. You could try. We can keep trying. I would keep trying him because if he's low in magnesium, he's going to be more anxious. Right. And he's definitely anxious.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And he's going to be more tense. And then you end up doing things to manage the anxiety that might not be good for you. And I've like really looked at health from a mineral perspective. So to me, like minerals are such a foundation. if you have low, any mineral, you're going to have imbalance, right? So I'm like, and magnesium is so hard to get in food. Green leafy vegetables, probably the most important thing. When you look at a brain scan, can you tell in advance,
Starting point is 00:34:16 like, could you look at a brain scan and predict if someone has addictive, like, tendencies? Yes, especially. Addiction is not one thing in the scan. I wrote a book once called Unchained Your Brain about addictions. There's certain types with people have ADD. There are other types with people have OCD. Yeah. But if the front middle of your brain is really busy,
Starting point is 00:34:45 you tend to have more obsessions and more compulsion. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And is that formed in childhood mostly? Well, sometimes you inherit it. Like if you have children or grandchildren of alcoholics increases the risk for sure. Well, I've loved this. I'm really excited to change my brain.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Your brain is awesome, but it can be more awesome. So you're suggesting hyperbaric chamber oxygen therapy would be really good. What about things like hydrogen? I just don't know enough about whether that would. be helpful. Well, and hydrogen tablets are something a lot of athletes do. I put hydrogen tablets in my water every day. Yeah. It's because it helps you just absorb, like, actually
Starting point is 00:35:33 and brain-md, we make them. Yeah. I like hydrogen. So there's evidence that can be helpful. I just don't know. What about ozone insufflation compared to the hyperbic chamber? I think the chamber is more effective in my experience.
Starting point is 00:35:49 But maybe worth doing the insufflation too? I think it could be helpful. Yeah, because we have like an ozone. machine. So I'm like, that's something we could do every single day. And you said your brother does. He does. He lives really close. So I could use his. And then I know there's one right, like a mile down the road I could go and use too. Is it a hard chamber? Yeah. So maybe. And that's the one we could sit in together. Maybe I do both. 20 hard chambers. And then, and then you do it. If you do it together, than it's like half the price.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You think 20 chamber sessions could move the needle in the brain? Yes. Wow. Because in my head, I'm like, how many sessions are you going to have to do? Well, Joe Namath, who played football, and his brain was awful, and he's 80, did 40, and his brain was better. Wow. And then he did 80.
Starting point is 00:36:43 His brain was better still. And then he did 120. His brain was freaking normal. Wow. And now he's 90 and doing commercials. So, you know, more tens of. So that can really move the needle. It can really move the needle.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Wow. Okay, I'm excited. Yeah. Our front tarvick is so. So that plus the supplements, the saffron, I think, will help you both. Peak energy, give you better energy and focus. And then I want you to take two packets, multiple vitamin, fish oil, and a brain boost. That's my repair formula.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Okay. And I think both of you should do that. Awesome. Well, this was awesome. So much fun. Thank you. So glad to meet you, to share with you. I'm completely inspired and excited to be helpful to you.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So just one thought on what did seeing your brain mean to you? I mean, it's neat to have clarity that I did likely have some sort of concussion. that affected a certain area of my brain. I think having the knowledge and tools will help propel me forward to overcome that and like get more regulated. Like I don't want to be stuck in fight or flight or anxiety or overwhelm. And so not only do we have nutritional and like hyperbaric chamber tools, but also taking charge of captive my thoughts.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I love the work we do at Aymond Clinics. It's been my passion. for the last really 37 years. And the thing I love most about it are the stories. Juanita says, I started experiencing mysterious symptoms. Doctors couldn't figure out what was going on. I discovered mold and my world flipped upside down.
Starting point is 00:38:48 At Eamon clinics, they did the brain scans and I felt validated. It was literally in my head. and I wasn't going crazy. Seeing that on images and knowing there is hope, I felt empowered. So you've been watching or listening to change your brain every day. We are so grateful for you and want you to have the best brain possible. Leave us a comment, question, or review, subscribe, share it with your friends. We're very excited.
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