Change Your Brain Every Day - The Health Benefits of Music
Episode Date: December 4, 2018Music producer Barry Goldstein is not only a talented composer, but he’s also well-versed in the scientific benefits of music. In this episode of The Brain Warrior’s Way Podcast, Barry and Dr. Dan...iel Amen discuss the health benefits that can be gained by learning to play an instrument, especially for children. Their new album, the Feel Better Fast and Make It Last Audio Program, is now available wherever music is sold.
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Welcome back. I'm here with Barry Goldstein. We're talking about music and your brain. about playing music. There's a whole science on people who play music helps to develop
certain areas of the brain. And that's so exciting. Now, of course, if you're playing
music while you're drinking, it completely ruins the benefit. Right, right.
And we're showing more and more that music is a language, right?
So just like learning a new language is going to stimulate the brain,
music as a language, playing music, is going to stimulate the brain as well.
They're showing more and more that improvising really enhances either virgin skills.
So when you're improvising and making things up as you're going in music, that that's really where more of a benefit than pre-planned music.
And they, believe it or not, show that with freestyle rappers.
So freestyle rappers are basically the ones who you're making up the rhyme as you're going along. And when they brain mapped the freestyle rappers,
they showed that the areas of the brain that were associated with creativity were the ones that were enhanced.
But when they read lyrics that were already done,
they did not have the same benefit.
So creativity matters.
So when you learn to play a guitar, you learn to play a piano,
that stimulates the learning and memory portions of the brain.
So it stimulates the hippocampus, also the cerebellum.
And I recommend people do cerebellar exercises all the time,
coordination exercises.
What's unfortunate is that we're taking it out of our school systems
when we should be putting more of them in because of things like this. So would you recommend,
you know, never in a stressful way, but parents encourage their children to play instruments?
Absolutely. Especially if they have an aptitude towards it
and they are seeing that they want to do that.
I think if something they don't wanna do,
there's a thin line sometimes between certain ages.
I know that when I was 10 years old,
I wasn't the same as I was when I was 12
and was really into playing the guitar then.
So I think parents have to use their judgment and encourage their children when they see that there's a space there. Let me push on that just a little bit because I have a grandson and left up to him he wouldn't play.
And what his dad said, I completely agree with him, is you don't want to do math.
You have to do math.
You don't want to do music.
You have to do music.
Because developing this skill is critical to your brain's development.
And I really like that because most of us do not like doing things we're not good at.
We like to do things we're good at, but if we only do what we know how to do, we're not
stretching or pushing the brain.
And then it crossed over to now he likes it Because he has developed some basic skill in it.
And discipline to do it.
And discipline to do it.
So.
I would agree with that.
You know, and I would also say that
why not ask them what instrument they would like to play?
You know, maybe there's one that they do want to play
if they're not feeling one or the other.
Because I know I started off on drums
and my neighbors really didn't think too highly of it.
So my parents said, why don't you play the guitar?
And drums really never resonated with me, although I thought I wanted to.
When I picked up that guitar, it was like coming home.
As soon as I learned three chords, I was writing songs.
And I think a lot of kids you know they have to experiment to find
the right instrument that calls to them so how would you recommend people do
because people listen to the brain warriors way podcast they're all about
new learning and optimizing their brain but there's so many instruments they
don't know what to start with, what would you recommend?
Well, if you're picking, if you were just going to start learning to play an instrument,
you know, I think guitar is a good instrument to pick up because it doesn't take a lot to
start to play it.
So it's encouraging because you can learn a few chords and you're on your way already.
You know, piano is two hands and you're, you know, it's a
little bit more technical. But I think guitar is a good start. A lot of people now are getting
into percussion and just like hand drums, you know, and more and more studies are showing that
people who are using drums have a way of moving into rhythm with their life as well. So just
moving drums at a set rhythm. Oh, how interesting. You know, as well as relie as well. So just moving drums at a set rhythm, you know, as well as
relieving anxiety. So especially for kids who are like ADHD and they have a hard time focusing,
rhythm is really great to just keep them synchronized and active, you know, and playing
a drum or hand drums or, you know, if you can't play a drum kit, you know, in your house, hand drums are great as well.
And if you picked up the guitar, for example, do you have to have a teacher or are there programs now that you can really work on it on your own. I think it's both. I mean, I picked up the guitar initially on my own
and took it as far as I possibly could go
and got really far with it.
And then, you know, I think it's just like anything else.
We start looking for mentors and people who are better than us
because the better the person you play with, the better you get.
So I think you can get to a certain point,
but I always recommend playing with someone better than you
and learning from someone better because it pushes you into being better yourself that's so true in
table tennis so that's my sport and if i play with people i can beat all the time i don't really get
any better right that's right so um that is just fascinating Also, there's a study that's really cool for autistic children, too, that shows that we're talking about kids, that there's a lot of challenges sometimes with the emotional intelligence of children with autism.
But they found out that when they played music in certain chord structures, So for instance, a minor chord.
And they asked the children to coordinate that with a diagram that was with that emotion
and see if it was correct.
They would show a sad face with the minor chord.
So they were able to increase emotional intelligence.
Oh, how interesting. to increase emotional intelligence through music and now defining that emotion based on musical
structures and chords. So you were saying just learning three chords that actually you can begin
to play some songs. Absolutely. Right. Because you have to be successful early in order to continue
things, which is so important.
In Feel Better Fast and Make It Last, my new book,
I actually went through the research on what kinds of music
could help you feel better fast.
And what came up over and over again was Sonata
for two pianos in D major, which is one of Mozart's pieces that has been associated with
improved cognition. Also, and in the book, I list a lot of them, Aaron Copland's Fanfare for the
Common Man or Marconi Union's Weightless has been amazing. Lost in Thought by John Hopkins.
So they actually found that music without lyrics,
which is what we have in our new album,
Feel Better Fast and Make It Last, is less distracting.
That's right.
Now, sometimes adding nature sounds can help boost mood and focus.
That's right.
But what was interesting, there were some fun songs like Good Vibrations, Don't Stop Me Now by Queen, Uptown Girl by Billy Joel, Dancing Queen, Abba, Girls Just Want to Have Fun by Cyndi Lauper.
Also showed brain enhancing, mood enhancing effects.
That makes total sense.
So music can help you or it can also hurt you, right?
If you get triggered, right?
You had a failed relationship and your song comes on all of a sudden.
Sure.
You're weeping.
Well, music creates autobiographical memories.
So we define points in our life based on pieces of music.
So if someone, like you said, broke up, you know, two girls just want to have fun,
they're not going to have the same effect as someone who loved it and played it
and went out with their friends, you know, at another age.
Oh, that's so funny because Tan and I totally have this problem where when I was a teenager,
Cat Stevens was really big.
And so I loved his music and played it over and over again.
But, you know, she's younger than me and she, that music reminds her of her uncle who's a drug addict.
And there's a lot of negative memories. Sure.
So whenever I put on Kat Stevens,
you have to be careful.
She gets furious with me and I'm like,
Oh my God,
I have to break up with Kat Stevens and her to keep this woman.
But she's totally worth it.
What I think is cool about all of this, though, and what we're learning more about preferred
music and autobiographical memories is that we don't have to use music as random events
that happen to us.
That's what most of us do.
We hear a song.
It's like, oh my God, I feel so good now that I've heard this song.
And it's a random experience.
What happens when you plug it in to your day and say, that's my happy song.
I'm going to start my day with that.
How do you start your day now?
You're up and you're elevated because it's not just music.
It's not just art and entertainment.
And that's what we're doing together is we're creating programs where we're bringing awareness
that they don't have to be random events.
You're in control.
You could be the DJ of your own life.
I love that.
When we come back,
we're gonna share some of our favorite music pieces,
besides, of course, our new album.
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