Change Your Brain Every Day - The Steps to Becoming a Brain Health Warrior

Episode Date: December 13, 2016

Your brain's wellness is probably one of the most neglected health concern. In today's episode the podcast, we're going to discuss how you can turn this mentality around, what steps you should take an...d where you can expect to be if you do the right way of taking care of your brain health.  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Donnie Osmond, and welcome to The Brain Warrior's Way, hosted by my friends Daniel and Tana Amon. Now, in this podcast, you're going to learn that the war for your health is one between your ears. That's right. If you're ready to be sharper and have better memory, mood, energy, and focus, well then stay with us. Here are Daniel and Tana Amon.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Hi, I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. In this episode, I'm actually going to be the one that talks about why I care about what we do. And in the process, we're going to give you the single most important lesson we've learned from nearly 100,000 scans that we've done here at Amen Clinics over the last 23 years on patients from 111 countries. So Tana fell in love with me because I was so cute. I am actually in the middle of seven children. I have an older brother and an older sister and four younger sisters. So surrounded by estrogen my whole life. I often say that you came house
Starting point is 00:01:11 broken and fully trained. I am grateful to his sisters. But my father called me a maverick growing up. And to him, it was definitely not a good thing. When I turned 18 in 1972, the draft was still going on. There was a draft lottery. My number was 19, which meant, bye, you're going to get drafted. And so I joined actually to be a veterinarian's assistant. I thought, oh, well, maybe I could have a choice in the kind of job I had. And I was thinking about being a veterinarian. The recruiter totally lied to me. And I ended up as an infantry medic. But I love being a medic. And that is really where my love of medicine was born. But very quickly, I learned I didn't like sleeping in the mud or the idea of being shot. So is that why I still cannot get you to go
Starting point is 00:02:05 camping? It's not that much fun. And so I got myself retrained as an x-ray technician. And what our professors used to always say is, how do you know unless you walk? And I loved being an x-ray technician. And I love taking pictures. And I mean, it was just, it was awesome and fun and interesting. And it really solidified my desire to be a doctor. And so when I got out of the military in 1975, I changed my major in college to being a pre-med. And I was fortunate enough to do really well in school and then get into medical school. And during my second year of medical school, someone very close to me tried to kill herself, which just horrified me. And so I brought her off to the Department of Psychiatry at Oral Roberts University, where I went to medical
Starting point is 00:02:57 school and just fell in love with the doctor that she saw. His name was Stan Wallace, and he was kind, compassionate, caring. And I realized if he helped her, it wouldn't just help her. It would end up helping her, her husband, her children, and even her grandchildren as they would be affected by someone who was happier and more stable. So I really fell in love with psychiatry
Starting point is 00:03:26 because I realized it had the potential to change generations of people. I have not regretted it one minute. I love being a psychiatrist. Now, if we fast forward to 1991, I'm a psychiatrist now nearly 10 years, and I go to my first lecture on brain SPECT imaging. SPECT is a nuclear medicine study. It looks at blood flow and activity, looks at how the brain works. Dr. Jack Poldy was the nuclear medicine physician who gave us the lecture, and he said SPECT was a tool to give psychiatrists more information on their patients to help them. So we would become more effective in helping our patients. That one lecture combined my two loves, right, imaging and psychiatry, and really created a revolution in my life.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And over the next 23 years, my colleagues and I would build the world's largest database of brain scans related to behavior. The six Amen Clinics now are the most active imaging centers in the world when it comes to brain imaging for psychiatry. So behind me are two SPECT scans. The image on the left, these are healthy scans, shows the outside surface. So it's the same person. We're just looking at their brain in two different ways. SPECT is different than a CAT scan or an MRI. Those are anatomy studies. SPECT looks at how the brain functions. So the image on the left, full even symmetrical activity, the color doesn't mean anything. The image on the right shows the
Starting point is 00:04:59 most active areas, which are typically in the back part of the brain. So I have a lot of people ask, they don't understand why an MRI or a CT scan is any different than this. And I love this analogy because I think it's very clear if I can quickly just throw this out there. So if you take a computer, because I have mine, two of them recently crashed. If you take a computer and you drop it on the floor and it crashes and it will not turn on, but you were to get an MRI or a CT scan of it, in essence, it would look like it was in perfect shape, right? Because it's in one piece, all the parts are still in there, everything's fine. But if you try to turn it on, it's not going to run right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And that's what a spec scan does, is it shows you how it's functioning. So that's the difference. Or another analogy, if you took a car engine and you got an MRI of the car engine, it would look like all the parts, but it wouldn't tell you anything about how it works. So an MRI will tell you if you have a brain. It won't necessarily tell you how it's functioning. It'll tell you if you have a tumor, but it's not. And SPECT really tells you three things, good activity, too little or too much. So if we compare a healthy scan on the left to one of the first scans I did, this was on Geraldine who came to the hospital with resistant depression.
Starting point is 00:06:15 She had two huge right hemisphere strokes. Or if we look at someone who has Alzheimer's disease, the back half of their brain is deteriorating. And what we now know, Alzheimer's actually starts in the brain decades before you have any symptoms. Or if we look at someone who had traumatic brain injury, I mean, you can really easily see the difference in the scans. And often in traumatic brain injury, the MRIs and CT scans are normal because the anatomy is fine. It's the physiology or the function that's not.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Well, and what's so interesting is you can actually see where it's at, which tells you a lot about behavior. Right. And I just find that fascinating. And when I first started doing the imaging work we do, I was the director of a dual diagnosis unit. It's a psychiatric hospital unit that deals with drug addicts. And when I saw healthy scans versus drug addict scans, I went, okay, the real reason not to use
Starting point is 00:07:09 drugs is they damage your brain. In fact, at the time I had three children and I brought the drug affected scans home to my three kids and effectively induced anxiety disorders in all three of them. And now that we have Chloe, she totally gets that drugs are not a good idea for your brain. Sometimes we see brains that work too hard. I mean, oftentimes, and if it works too hard in the front, as in the image behind me, that often goes along with people who can't stop thinking, who might have obsessive compulsive disorder, OCD. Seizure activity usually shows up as a focal hotspot in one area of the brain. And that's why we use anti-seizure medicines
Starting point is 00:07:50 to calm things down. In 1992, so now I'm doing the scans for a year. I'm so excited. And when I graduated from medical school, I had two goals. I wanted to be a really good psychiatrist. I loved what I was learning and what I did. And I wanted to be a really good psychiatrist. I loved what I was learning and what I did. And I wanted to be a writer. And my goal was actually to write articles and books to translate
Starting point is 00:08:16 the research of other scientists for the general population. So I always say, you know, I'm not that bright. So if I can understand things and explain them, then other people can too. And so that was really my gift to take complex concepts, really sort of take them apart to understand them and then translate that for the general public. And I had already written my first national book before I'd ever ordered to scan. And so as I start doing these scans, I start writing about them because I'm getting pretty excited about this. And in 1992, I go to the American Psychiatric Association's annual meeting to an all-day conference given by physicians at Creighton University on brain-spec imaging in child psychiatry. And then there was another all-day conference on brain spec imaging in psychiatry at all. And I'm so excited because
Starting point is 00:09:10 by then I'd already ordered hundreds of scans. I found them helpful. And I love that my profession is moving forward. But at that meeting, there are researchers that told me and other people, we shouldn't be doing this. You shouldn't use imaging in clinical practice. It was just for research. Now, think about what my dad said. That makes no sense. Think about what my dad said about me. And when I heard them, I no longer look up to them. I begin to think there's something the matter with them because I've already found them helpful. They're helpful in so many ways. And we use these scans in the hospital. It's not like they don't work. They decrease the scans, decrease stigma. They increase compliance. They
Starting point is 00:09:55 give me more information to help my patients. And the ivory tower people go, no, it's for us. It's not for you. At which point I become furious because it's just a bad position to take to not use technology to help your patients. When it's available and you know it works. And so I'm like, you're kidding, right? Psychiatrists make diagnoses by talking to people without any biological information. They actually make diagnoses like they did in 1840 when Lincoln was depressed. So for a long time, I loved Lincoln because he failed and he failed and he failed and he failed and then he became a wild success. And so he was very persistent. But Lincoln suffered with depression. And a lot of people don't know he had a bad head injury when he was 10 years old. He was actually
Starting point is 00:10:52 kicked in the head by a horse and unconscious all night long. But throughout his life, he had several serious bouts with depression. In fact, in the winter of 1840, he was suicidal. And his friends took away his knives. And then he went to see his doctor, Anson Henry. And how did Dr. Henry diagnose Lincoln with depression? He talked to him. He looked at him. He looked for symptom clusters. That's how he diagnosed him. It's exactly the same way people were making psychiatric diagnoses in 1992. For that matter, for most people, in 2015. And I want to interject something here because, you know, psychiatry doesn't have a great reputation in general. It doesn't. I know that's not a surprise to you. In fact, I almost canceled my first date with you when I found out
Starting point is 00:11:35 you were a psychiatrist. But there's a reason for that. It's not just because. Many of us, including me, have had really bad experiences with psychiatrists for that reason, because of the guessing, because you get hurt. And I personally got hurt by it. So guessing is not innocuous. So in 1980, when I decided to be a psychiatrist, I told my dad, and I mean, you'll probably get the sense through our show that as much as I love my father, he was different. I love his father. My father had two favorite words. Bullshit was the first one and no was the second. I love his dad. I don't know what that means, but they have similarities. And when I told him in 1980, I wanted to be a psychiatrist,
Starting point is 00:12:22 he got really angry at me and he said, what? You want to be a nut doctor? Why don't you want to be a real doctor? And it hurt my feelings. And at the time, I really didn't understand. But now I sort of get it. It's because we don't act like real doctors. What other medical specialty makes diagnoses based on symptoms without any biological interventions? And I guarantee you you somebody right now has a family member or they themselves have been made worse by someone doing that. I guarantee it. No question. And so my comment back to the people who criticized me was,
Starting point is 00:12:56 well, don't you know that psychiatrists are the only medical specialists who rarely look at the organ they treat? It's like, well, cardiologists look, neurologists look, your orthopedic doctor looks, gastroenterologist looks, every other medical specialty look, psychiatrist guess. And because of that, they hurt people. Before I started imaging, I'd hurt people. You know, they come with the classic symptoms of depression and I'd hurt people. They come with the classic symptoms of depression, and I'd put them on Prozac or a medication like Prozac. Some people would get better. Other people would get worse. They'd become homicidal or suicidal. I had somebody, they meet all the criteria for ADD
Starting point is 00:13:38 or ADHD on Ritalin. Some people would be like a miracle. They'd go from Ds and Fs to As and Bs, and other people would now become anxious. They'd start picking at a miracle. They'd go from D's and F's to A's and B's. And other people would now become anxious. They'd start picking at their skin. They couldn't sleep. They'd become paranoid. And it's like, well, how the heck would I know? So I really felt like I was throwing darts in the dark at people. There is a reason most psychiatric medications have black box warnings. Give them to the wrong people and you'll hurt them. So you can see I'm passionate and I'm persistent because I had personal experience that it would help with the people I cared for, which are my patients. And I wasn't about to let some researcher tell
Starting point is 00:14:21 me what I could or couldn't do at At the time, still, I'm a double board-certified psychiatrist. So that means I went to medical school for four years. I did five years of a psychiatric residency and a fellowship. I took the tests and all the training. So I'm board-certified in general psychiatry and also in child and adolescent psychiatry by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology. So I have all the credentials. And so the fact that someone at a university or at the National Institute of Medicine, no, no, you shouldn't do that, you know, just didn't cut it with me because what it left me with is guessing. And that's wrong when I could have more information.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I thought it was so interesting. So when I did not cancel my date with you, when I actually met you, so I'm a neurosurgical ICU nurse. And so when I met you and you started telling me what you did, my first thought was, okay, well, that's really different. Why don't all psychiatrists do that?
Starting point is 00:15:18 It made no sense to me. So I couldn't sort of wrap my brain around why you were, you know, like more people didn't do that. This was very different. But it made perfect sense to me. In fact, I couldn't figure out wrap my brain around why you were, you know, more people didn't do that. This was very different. But it made perfect sense to me. In fact, I couldn't figure out why everyone wasn't doing it. So from a standpoint of somebody who works in the hospital, deals with scans all day, we do do spec scans.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So it didn't make sense to me that more people weren't using them. Well, and one way you get someone to fall in love with you, you know, people go, you know, how'd you get the pretty girl? Is you do something nice for someone they love. And Tana told me about her dad who had been diagnosed with dementia, who was a recluse. I had to move him in with me. He wasn't answering his phone. He wasn't coming out of his house.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He wasn't taking a shower. And he'd been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease. And so I'm like, well, we have to look. How do we know what he really has unless we look? He was also diagnosed with depression. And when I scanned him, he didn't have Alzheimer's disease. And in fact, he was on a toxic cocktail of medication. And so I changed his medicine, added some supplements, worked with him.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And this, quote, demented recluse, five or six months later, is now giving all day seminars. Yes, seven hour seminars and holding Bible study at my house. But if you don't look, you don't know. Right. One of the big early lessons I learned is that illnesses like ADHD, anxiety, depression, addictions are not single or simple disorders in the brain, that they all had multiple types. So if we look at two people with depression, what you'll see is one has really low activity in the brain. The other has really high activity. Do you think they'll respond to
Starting point is 00:17:05 the same treatment? Of course not. And how would I ever know unless I actually look? So now I'm pretty passionate about this. Another early lesson is that mild traumatic brain injuries are a major cause of psychiatric illness and nobody knows it. Why? Because they have bad behavior. So think of the football players, you know, depression, suicide, domestic violence. And they end up seeing psychiatrists who as a profession, as a whole, never look at the organ they treat. And I'm thinking, oh, well, we should scan these people. So here's an example. This is a 15 year old boy who had failed three residential treatment programs. He kept getting kicked out. So his behavior is so bad at home, they have to hospitalize him or, you know, put him in a special program. And his behavior is so bad
Starting point is 00:17:57 there they can't contain him. And so they ended up coming to our clinic and the whole left side of his brain is damaged. And I'm like, well, when did he have a brain injury? And the mother just got so sad. She said, I knew something was wrong with him. When he was three years old, he fell down a flight of stairs and he was unconscious for a half an hour. And the doctor at the hospital diagnosed him with mild traumatic brain injury. But if you look at his brain, there is absolutely nothing mild about what had happened to him. So yes, his behavior was troubled and people judged him as a bad boy. But in fact, he had a damaged brain and that just wasn't fair. You know, it's interesting. I'm the first person to think and say that people should be held
Starting point is 00:18:43 accountable for their actions. I mean, I'm not kidding about you know protecting innocent people But what I love about our work is that we have the opportunity to really help people and prevent so much of this With the early signs and I love that I mean it frustrates me and and it excites me because when I think about some of the people, you know, the Batman shooter. Right. There were early signs. You know, if you had the opportunity and you were able to look. But as a profession, we don't look.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And if you think of all the mass shooters, almost all of them were seeing psychiatrists or had seen psychiatrists. And almost all of them had been on medication in the dark. We'll talk about that in just a little bit. So as I got really interested in the idea of traumatic brain injury and psychiatric illness, the literature is actually very clear. The scientific literature is very clear. Undiagnosed brain injuries are a major cause of homelessness. 58% of the homeless men in Toronto had a significant brain injury before they were homeless. It's a major cause of drug and alcohol abuse. Brand new study says if children have a brain injury, they are three and a half times more likely to have problems with addictions. It's a major cause of depression. It's a major cause of panic attacks, ADHD, and suicide. And the sad
Starting point is 00:20:07 thing is, is they're living with a condition that no one knows about that is treatable. That is a crime. And when you think of all the other people that may not have had to suffer as a result. Right. And so as I went along in my career, I got so much criticism. I got reported to the California Medical Board. I was investigated for a year. Thank God at the end of the year, they said, we didn't find anything you did wrong. We just hope you'll publish your research so that other people can learn. And so you started publishing. And so we've now published 72 studies. But as the criticism grew louder, so did the lessons. But you have to understand, too, you're not a very conflict-seeking person.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So he's sort of conflict-avoidant for the most part. Yeah, people really knew me. You know, I come out with really strong statements because I believe this. But I don't like to fight. No, he does not. That would be me. You don't like to fight. That would be you, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So that was hard for him. And I used to sit there and go, I don't understand why this bothers you. Because, you know, someone's criticizing him and, you know, just creaming him on, you know, in an article. But on the same day, we're walking and some mother comes running up crying, throws her arms around him. And she's like, you saved my son's life. Now, to me, it's a no brainer. It's a big brainer. It's not a no brainer. It's a big brainer. Which one's more important? You know, I wouldn't care so much about the guy that's criticizing me that has no idea. You know, he's clueless about what I'm doing. It's the people that you're helping that are
Starting point is 00:21:36 important. But he doesn't like that kind of conflict for the most part. Yeah. I wondered, you know, why God would put me in that situation. But, I mean, it was just so clear. The message was so clear. So the lessons went up. Judges and defense attorneys sought our help to understand criminal behavior. So we have scanned more than 500 convicted felons, 90 murderers. And our work taught us that people who do bad things often have troubled brains. Okay, that's not a surprise.
Starting point is 00:22:06 What did surprise me? They often had brains that could be rehabilitated. So here's a radical idea. What if we evaluated and treated people who had troubled brains rather than simply warehousing them in toxic, stressful environments? Okay, let's clarify. Let's not lie to ourselves. See, I like that verse in the New Testament, John chapter eight, know the truth and the truth will set you free. When you put people in prison, you are not rehabilitating them. There are a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:41 people like me out there. Let's be very clear about. Well, I mean, I'm just telling you that the truth is we are getting retribution on them. We are not rehabilitating them to warehouse someone in a toxic, stressful environment. Now, I want to keep our society safe. That is really important to mama bear here're talking to mama bear here, so. But shouldn't we also be scanning, because most of the people that go to jail go home. Now that's a good point. And if you don't work on rehabilitating their brain, recidivism is anywhere from 40 to 70 percent. And so you're just, you're not investing in the health of our society. So my experience, let me finish. My experience is that we could actually, by investing in rehabilitating the brains of people who do troubled things, is that we could be making people more functional. So I
Starting point is 00:23:40 actually, and I live in Orange County, it's a very conservative community. And I think this is the most conservative idea that some people will think I'm a bleeding heart liberal. And that's just not how I feel, because if we invest in people that and their brain health, what we're doing is we're investing their ability to stay out of jail, to work, to support their families and pay taxes. But, you know, our society has got the Wall Street mindset of, you know, well, how much money do I have now as opposed to investing in the future? Let me say something to your point, to your credit, because I'm not about, well, but this is to your credit. This is to your point. Now, I am Mama Bear. I'm not going to make any
Starting point is 00:24:20 excuses for that. You hurt my kid. I don't want to hear any excuses. It's over. But that said, there is a prison. It was a prison near Idlewild, somewhere in the Inland Empire. And they did something similar to what you're talking about. Now, they didn't scan. They didn't go to this extreme. But just by making changes, by including therapy, they changed their diet radically. I mean, they served literally no processed food or junk food at all, changed them to primarily plant-based diet. And what they did is they actually separated the prison into two sides, and they allowed the prisoners to choose. The ones who wanted to go through therapy, do gratitude, and have all these different aspects out of their lives, job training, as well as a healthy lifestyle, exercise,
Starting point is 00:25:02 diet. And then they allowed the other side to do what they were the traditional prison system. On the side where they actually changed their lifestyle, recidivism dropped to 2%. They closed it down. Now, why, I have no idea. It's ridiculous. Of course, I'm sure it had something to do with cost. But the point being-
Starting point is 00:25:18 Well, and the prison industry is a big industry that lobbies. I mean, it's- Well, and part of the complaint- It's criminal on how many people that we incarcerate with this mindset of let's be tough on crime without really trying to understand it and rehabilitate it. But to your point, these were people who were going home. So whether we like it or not, they're being let out.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And so recidivism is wrong. And nobody thinks about the brain in the criminal justice system. And my work says it should be planted right in the middle of it. Dostoevsky, one of my favorite Russian authors, once said a society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens, but by how it treats its criminals. And as you know, he wrote Crime and Punishment. So I say instead of just crime and punishment, we should be thinking of crime evaluation and treatment. So let me get to the single most important lesson we've learned from looking at nearly 100,000 scans.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's the theme of the show. You can literally change people's brains. And when you do, you change their lives. You are not stuck with the brain you have. You can make it better. And we've proven it. I get so excited about this. So Amen Clinics did the first and the largest study on active and retired NFL players. We started in 2007. The NFL was actively saying, we don't know. We're studying the issue. Roger Goodell was in front of Congress in 2009 saying,
Starting point is 00:26:44 we don't know, we're studying. And Maxine Waters, the congresswoman from Los Angeles, said, Commissioner, having you say you're studying traumatic brain injury in football, it's a conflict of interest. But my favorite part is the little mice wearing helmets. It was crazy. They were actually doing studies where they were putting little helmets on mice and whacking them in the head and going, we can't tell. How crazy is that? Our study demonstrated on 100 players, damage everywhere in their brain. I mean, it was really global reduction of blood flow to their brain. But, and this was the exciting thing,
Starting point is 00:27:16 we put them on a brain rehabilitation program. We're going to talk about it in many of our shows. So lifestyle interventions, natural supplements. And what we found is 80% of our players showed high levels of improvement when they followed the plan. You got to follow the plan. We're so excited, but we've known that for a long time and we've known that for decades. You are not stuck with the brain you have. We can make it better. But reversing brain damage is an exciting new frontier. But the implications are much wider than just traumatic brain injury. So here's one of the girls, a teenage girl who was running away from home. She was cutting herself. She was suicidal. She was failing in school. She had really low blood flow to her brain. And on treatment, her brain was fuller, fatter, much more active.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Oh, and by the way, she is now a junior in the top three in her class. I mean, it's just... In a private school. Awesome. The difference that you can make by changing someone's brain. One of my favorite stories. So one of the journals wrote a bad article on me. Some of my colleagues criticized me. I hate that. And an hour after I read the article, I saw Nancy's follow-up scan. So this
Starting point is 00:28:32 is Nancy's first scan, 10 weeks before. Her husband is one of our football players. And Ray White played for the San Diego Chargers. And he joined my study. So I would see his wife, who'd just been diagnosed with frontal temporal lobe dementia, bad dementia. So I would see his wife who'd just been diagnosed with frontal temporal lobe dementia, bad dementia. And you would see her scan. The front part of her brain is deteriorating. It's dying. And I said, you know, I agree with the diagnosis, but if she was my wife and I like my wife, I would do these things. So I put her on a very aggressive brain rehabilitation program and said I wanted to see her back in 10 weeks. 10 weeks later, her brain is much better as she is better. So I just
Starting point is 00:29:13 read the article criticizing me. And then I see these two scans. I mean, this is why I do this. But see, I love what your player said. They only go after the guy with the ball. If you weren't making a difference, if you weren't making a difference, if you weren't shaking stuff up, nobody would be talking about you at all. So, you know, they go after the guy with the ball. So, I mean, it's just, you're not stuck with what you have. You can make it better. Takes work, but it's possible. And I have to tell you, the story that is my passion story, what has really kept me doing this all these years is Andrew. And so Andrew is a little boy who at nine years old attacked a little girl on the baseball field for no particular reason.
Starting point is 00:29:57 His mother called me crying and she said, Dr. Amen, he's just different. He's mean. He doesn't smile anymore. I went into his room today and found two pictures that he had drawn. One of them, he was hanging from a tree. The other picture, he was shooting other children. See, these are what we see on the news. Andrew was Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook waiting to happen. Now, 999 psychiatrists out of 1,000 would have
Starting point is 00:30:29 put him on medication or put him in psychotherapy. In my experience, I had to scan him. How the heck do I know why a sweet little boy would do something so awful that I had to rule out or rule in that he had a brain issue. And in fact, this was the first case where he was missing his left temporal lobe. He actually had a cyst the size of a golf ball. So people understand the left temporal lobe is the part of the brain that's associated with behavior and temper. It certainly can be. And we'd already correlated. So this is actually April 1995. And it's the first time I'd seen this, but I'd seen many left temporal lobe problems involved in aggression and violence.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And so I was sad, but sort of glad I could explain his behavior. But then trying to get somebody to actually take it seriously and drain the cyst, turned out he had an arachnoid cyst occupying the space of his left temporal lobe was a challenge. But Jorge
Starting point is 00:31:25 Lazareff at UCLA drained the cyst. And when he drained the cyst, Andrew's behavior completely went back to normal. And this was Andrew after the surgery. And now Andrew, who is my nephew, who's my godson, 18 years later, he works. He's a great kid. He owns his own home. He pays taxes. When you do this work, I mean, for me, it has always been a privilege. I mean, when you have the privilege to change someone's brain, you not only change his or her life, you actually have the opportunity to change generations to come. You are not stuck with the brain you have. You can make it better. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Thanks for listening to today's show, The Brain Warrior's Way. Why don't you head over to brainwarriorswaypodcast.com, that's brainwarriorswaypodcast.com, where Daniel and Tana have a gift for you just for subscribing to the show. And when you post your review on iTunes, you'll be entered into a drawing where you can win a VIP visit to one of the Amen clinics. I'm Donnie Osmond, and I invite you to step up your brain game by joining us in the next episode.

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