Change Your Brain Every Day - Why Drawing and Maintaining Boundaries is So Important

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

It’s no secret that helping others is one of the most effective ways for YOU to feel happier. Yet sometimes the act of helping someone else can become incredibly complicated, leaving you exhausted a...nd wondering if it’s worth the effort. In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Daniel and Tana Amen describe the frustration that can set in when your efforts don’t seem to be making a difference in someone else’s life, and why setting and maintaining boundaries can be so helpful.  For more information on Tana's new book, "The Relentless Courage of a Scared Child", visit relentless courage.com For info on Tana Amen's upcoming free live virtual event, visit tanaamen.com/event

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Brain Warriors Way podcast. I'm Dr. Daniel Amen. And I'm Tana Amen. In our podcast, we provide you with the tools you need to become a warrior for the health of your brain and body. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is brought to you by Amen Clinics, where we have been transforming lives for 30 years using tools like brain spec imaging to personalize treatment to your brain. For more information, visit amenclinics.com. The Brain Warriors Way podcast is also brought to you by BrainMD, where we produce the highest quality nutraceuticals to support the health of your brain and body. To learn more, go to brainmd.com. Welcome back. We're talking about the relentless courage of a scared child. But before we jump into this episode, we need to tell everybody about our event
Starting point is 00:00:56 on December 12th. Overcoming anxiety, depression, trauma, and grief. Yes. It's a free event. It's going to be live as opposed to dead. Yeah, totally free. We have amazing speakers and you get a chance to be entered into a drawing for a full evaluation of Amen Clinics. Pretty exciting stuff. Yeah. So December 12th,
Starting point is 00:01:20 you can sign up for it at tanaayman.com forward slash event. You can also pre-order the book at relentlesscourage.com. You can also pre-order the book at relentlesscourage.com and get all sorts of wonderful gifts. Almost $500 in gifts. So we're on this journey and you are a scary bitch, which is just how it was. It needed to happen though. Because you are really upset that the children are being raised in an unsafe environment. Well, and I knew we wouldn't get them out if, I mean, the stakes were high. And I'm trying to deal with this person who's pretty out of control. And the truth is this, I wasn't exactly sure how much of it was related to substance abuse and how much of it was related
Starting point is 00:02:14 to mental health issues. And it ended up being both. So I just didn't have enough information and I didn't have time to figure it out. And that's a really hard place to be. It's fine. It's all fine and dandy when you've got plenty of time to sort of unwind things and like take your time and, you know, be empathetic. And I had none of that. We had to get these kids out. It was, I was going back and forth out of state and I, she was out of control. I couldn't deal with her. Part of it was her trauma. She was traumatized from having her kids taken. Part of it was she was using substances and part of it was she had mental health issues. So it was her trauma. She was traumatized from having her kids taken. Part of it was she was using substances. And part of it was she had mental health issues. So it was very complicated.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And another part is we diagnosed her with Erlen syndrome. Well, that explains the 19 car accidents. And the blue halos. And so we got her diagnosed. We got her treated. She went to AA. But it didn't just get better. It got better, then it went back down, and it would get better, and then it would drop, and it would get better. And so we had this up and down. And that's when I began to suspect it was more than just substances. I began to really realize she has a lot of past trauma. She has issues with mental health. Um, she grew up in a very toxic environment with a lot. She, the deck was stacked with mental illness. And so, um, I began to have more empathy. I was,
Starting point is 00:03:39 I was frustrated. I was hurt for anybody who, any of you who have grown up in this environment where you've got family members that, you know, like you can't just disconnect from them completely or maybe you have, but it's hard. And it's this, it's this rollercoaster. It's just this constant rollercoaster because you love them. You want to help them, but it's this never ending, like just chaos. It's just chaos. And you can't sort of get away from it. And yet, you know, it's more complicated. I mean, I'm a nurse. I'm, I've got loads of experience, life experience, and it was just really hard. And I had no easy answer. And the kids had been traumatized by what had happened. And they really had no good sense of predictability. None. How those kids turned out to be such good kids.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And they're both great kids. Although the youngest one had a ton of anxiety. She had a ton of anxiety. She reminds me of me. Um, she's very cynical and she's skeptical and she's got eyes in the back of her head and that's how I was. Um, and so she's always waiting for the next bad thing to happen. Well, and very quickly you became her hero. She wants to be like you and we'll see how long that lasts. So on Mother's Day, three years ago, she got the children back, moved down to Southern California, because that way we could at least supervise the situation. But again, not in a straight line, but they're getting services. They're getting the help they need. And it was not easy.
Starting point is 00:05:27 It was not easy. Your dad was easy. This was hard. I don't know. I'd go so far as to say it was easy. But this felt almost insurmountable at the time. And, you know, it turned out that, I mean, there are just so many lessons, but one, we lose, we soar, we crash. For most of us at the end of the day, it's a choice. And sometimes the disease wins.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Sometimes you do everything you can to help people. Sometimes you do everything you can, and you may, whether you keep helping them or you don't, sometimes they don't win. And so she's doing better. She's doing the best she can, but the kids aren't living with her. And so I think she does better when the kids aren't living with her. She misses them terribly. She sees them, but she just has a hard time sort of keeping it together. And I do think that, you know, getting treatment for mental health is just something she's going to always have to do. Yeah. And so now the kids are with us, which we adore them. But I don't have that anger anymore. There's not the anger. There's not the disconnection. She couldn't make me connect, disconnect. If she did certain things, I would disconnect, not because I don't love her because there's certain things I won't allow in my house. So I did a video on, on social media
Starting point is 00:07:09 about dealing with toxic people. I have boundaries. I'm clear about my boundaries at this stage of my life. I've done enough work. I've really, um, taken the initiative to understand what healthy boundaries are. And, and I want you as listeners to think this through. If you've ever, if you've done this work, if you haven't done this work, if you're still suffering with it, I've done the work on understanding what my boundaries are. I've made my boundaries clear to everyone in my life. Everyone knows what my boundaries are. And if they can't respect those boundaries, if they continue after knowing what my boundaries are, I don't like drama in my house. If the, I mean, normal drama is normal drama, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:49 the crazy drama, um, if they cannot respect that and they continue to bully, threaten, push, violate, lie, um, scream, that's not acceptable to me. I've got a family, my husband, my daughter, now my nieces that are my priority and that is mine to protect. So they have a choice. You can either respect these boundaries or not. And if you can't, I will have to love you from a distance. I will pray for you and I will love you
Starting point is 00:08:20 and I will miss you. Well, there it is. There it is. So I would love to know if you have had to deal with that, if you are still dealing with that and what your way of dealing with it is, how do you manage your boundaries? Boundaries are so important and people often become conflict avoidant and the boundaries become porous and then people become overwhelmed by, but you know, at some point you have to go, you know, this person is able to do this or they're not able. Yeah. You gotta be honest it. And, you know, when we came to that conclusion,
Starting point is 00:09:06 she's just not able to do it. You don't have to be good. You don't have to be bad. You don't have to be angry about it, but then you just have to go, okay, so what's the next decision. And we ended up, you know, initially, which caused us a lot of conflict between you and I, you know, I think we navigated most of it really well together. Now, of course, when it doesn't go well, you blame me. Oh, 100%. 100%. I told you so, my favorite words. Yeah. When we were dating, you said I would- No, no. I don't know why you keep thinking of remembering it that way. Cause I remember my favorite words. I think that must've been, you know, a moment of bliss and the whole, I love you so much. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I think that was a moment of bliss that you imagined that I didn't, I, I didn't, but, uh, I'm clear now that you will say, I told you. Right. You need to stop and think it through ahead of time. For sure. Like my prepping. You can always continue for the rest of your life to say, thank you, honey. Or I will say, I told you so forever. So some of the big lessons from Tamara's story is when you're going to help someone communicate with
Starting point is 00:10:29 your partner, really come up with a plan together. Yeah. If it's going to impact. Because it impacts everybody. When you've got family members that are struggling with substance abuse or mental illness or both. They've got a dual diagnosis and it's both. And there's that much chaos. It doesn't just affect one person. It affects all of you. It affects your entire life.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And it's going to, it has the potential to turn your life upside down if you guys are not a team. So you've got to be a team. You've got to be on board together with this. That's it. And I actually dedicated my book, The End of Mental Illness, to Amelie and Alize because the whole goal, because they're loaded for mental illness, the whole goal is to prevent it in them and in their babies. And it's work, but it's absolutely worth it. What did you learn?
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