Chapo Trap House - 1005 - Ice Storm (1/26/26)

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Will and Felix talk about the horrific killing of Alex Pretti. We talk about the execution, the man Alex was, why the right despises him, the inspiring response of the people of Minnesota, and reasons to hope that we haven’t irreversibly opened the gates of Hell. We also talk about the public responses, ranging from the bizarre justifications from Mike Cernovich and JD Vance to Sohrab Amari’s attempt at aloofness to the [???] from Tom Friedman. Plus: Marie Glusenkamp Perez dealing the shittiest weed in the world. Katherine’s article at The Intercept is out: https://theintercept.com/2026/01/25/tony-dokoupil-cbs-evening-news/  Follow the new Chapo Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chapotraphousereal/ And Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/chapotraphousereal.bsky.social

Hello everybody. It's Monday, January 26th, and Felix and I are here for another episode of Shopping. I can't believe we have to work on a snow day. Can you believe, can you believe you made it into the office today? Yeah, can you believe that not only we have to work, but they're not closing down schools. You have to produce content all during the release of the Pen Dragon cycle. You know, I went to my gym and, you know, I go to. do a certain, you know, it's a national chain now, but it started in New York, pretty famous upskilled gym, where everyone who worked for the gym, they were abducted as children, and they signed lifetime contracts, sort of the C-Ork type thing. And so, you know, I can go whenever. I've gone,

I've gone to work out on Purim. I've gone to work out on Arbor Day. Like, it's usually, I can get a lift in if I go early enough. But today, during the second week of the pen, The Pen Dragon Cycle, the Daily Wires, I think Game of Thrones beater, it's safe to say. No one was there, but I still have to make content. Businesses all over America are closed right now for the Penn Dragon Cycle. They can't even get employees to come in because they're saying, no, we're watching, you know, the Jeremy Boring's Arthurian saga on the DailyWire.com. And you know this so-called like Megastorm?

Harp actually engineered it so that people wouldn't watch the Pen Dragon cycle. they thought, oh, they'll be too busy shoveling their sidewalks. See, I do think, I do believe in the protocols of the elders design. I do think that a council of rabbis did affect the weather. But I'm still a supporter of the Daily Wire because of the Penn Dragon cycle. I'm deeply anti-Semitic, but it's just such a good show that I kind of know what Hitler felt when he found out about Charlie Chaplin. Like, look, I mean, like, it's such a good program, though, but I fear like sometimes something is so good, it causes larger social problems. I don't know if you're aware of this,

but the state of Minnesota is the only state in America that does not have access to the Penn Dragon cycle. And let's just say things have been a little crazy over there. The situation has got out of hand. The government is killing people who are demanding access to the Penn Dragon cycle. And I think the time is now to turn down the temperature and come together and distribute the Penn Dragon cycle

to everyone who needs it. And arrest or kill anyone who hasn't watched the Pen Dragon cycle or has given it a negative review. I 100% agree. And you know what, Jacob Frey, we started the show to support the career of then city councilman Jacob Frey. Everyone knows that. When Jacob Frey Mania was sweeping the nation in 2016, we kind of our fortunes rose with him.

And we're lifelong Frey supporters, the Frey we call ourselves. We said, vote Frey to save a life. That was our big slogan. But his means-tested plan of a lottery for low-income children to watch the pay. Pendragon cycle with him. He's going to drive to North Dakota where the Pendragon cycle is available. That's not enough.

That's really not enough. We need bolder action. He's like, I want the federal government to get the fuck out of our city and to bring the Pendragon cycle to the people of Minnesota. I want to watch the fucking Pendragon cycle. Okay, buddy.

By the way, if anyone has, you know, access to the Pendragon cycle, please contact us. All right. Well, to start things off, I think it's very unlikely that anything on this episode will not be consumed by the ongoing killing spree being carried out in Minnesota and the country writ large right now by the Department of Homeland Security. I don't know where to begin with this. I mean, look, we all saw the video over the weekend, Alex Pretty, another U.S. citizen just straight up executed by the Border Patrol this time. but under the egos of their supposedly immigration enforcement actions in Minneapolis.

I mean, I think by now this should be obvious to everyone that whatever justification was given about Somali fraud or getting dangerous immigrant criminals out the street as long, long past. And like, as we've been describing it, this is basically a siege of America. This is a war on the people of this country. And, you know, it's hard to do episodes like this. We're all trying to like metabolize some deeply, unspeakably evil thing that is getting closer and closer and closer to the front door of my, your, everyone's house. And, you know, it's easy to fall into like, you know, just the doom to let the fear overtake you. But I'd like to begin today.

And I think it has to be stated at the top here that what we're seeing right now is a huge. huge overplay of their hand by the Trump administration. And I'll note that the killing of Alex Pretty happened the day after probably 100,000 people showed up in the streets of Minneapolis in like sub-zero temperatures to

demand that ice get out of their city. This level of violence and escalation is in reaction to that. And like they were already backpedaling on the Renee Good murder. But like what they did was something that I didn't think was possible, which is that like

to commit another murder slash execution on video that is somehow, somehow, even more indefensible than the one that people are already protesting about. Yeah, I was talking to, I mentioned in the last episode, one of my, a friend that I've known for like, you know, nearly 15 years at this point, one of my best friends from when I lived there, from going to school there. And I talked to him the morning this happened. and I had not even seen the video yet. And he's been out at the protest,

and he told me that he thinks they didn't initially plan to kill predate. They probably thought, like, okay, they need to get even heavier-handed with people, if that was even possible, maybe even like, almost like how the mob does mock execution, maybe. Like, put the barrel of a gun to someone's head. But of course, these people are just unemployable fucking domestic abuser rapist maniacs who have no control over their own actions. And that was the thing that struck me about the video, was that it wasn't like, you certainly couldn't call this premeditated because it just, they intended to kill him, but it was just so fucking sloppy and panicked and childish.

I mean, the way that they ran away after, that may have been the most striking thing. When 15-year-old gang members kill someone, they stand over the body and they'll run away so as to attempt not to get caught by police or the friends of whoever they killed, but they don't go, oh, fuck, we did it, and sprint off in like eight different directions. They have all the physical trappings of a paramilitary force. They certainly love to dress and equip themselves for the part. This is the branding that the Trump administration puts on them. But I mean, if there was any actual military force that was this disorganized and cowardly, they would be routed by people with swords within a fucking week. And, you know, I think this is worth stating as well.

Because, like, they're now three U.S. citizens who have been gunned down, have been killed by these, you know, submental criminals who have been deputized into a racial purification death squad, Keith Porter in Los Angeles, and now Renee, Good and Alex Prattie in Minneapolis. And obviously, like, this has had, you know, like a huge impact on our national consciousness. And, like, I think, like, in doing especially the last two, I think the Trump administration has managed to alienate just about everyone. And everyone who was formerly in their political coalition, who is not a died-in-the-wall Nazi.

Right. All the people that push them over the top. Yeah, exactly. And, but the thing is, like, so that's three U.S. citizens just killed from. no reason by these fucking criminals. But the thing is, I think you can take, like, pretty much for granted that what they're doing behind

closed doors and their privately run concentration camps is not just killing people, but, like, unimaginable, unspeakable crimes. Like, these are just the three that we know about. But, like, the death count of these monsters is far higher than I would imagine that we're currently aware of.

Right. I mean, it feels absurd to talk about a hypothetical eventual Democratic trifecta after this, though. Even a party under the stewardship of the August Hakeem Jeffries at this point, I think is going to get that in a walk. But obviously, without prosecuting dozens, if not hundreds of these guys

with federal death penalty trials, is just an invitation for this to happen again. But I think it would also require a government investigation and not a 9-11 commission type thing, something to, that has actual scale and size to actually figure out some close approximation of the body count here. Because there's just, there's no way of knowing. We saw a bit of it last time. It was covered

a bit the last time during Trump one. And it happened under Obama too. But these detention camps are just, I mean, they are run by people who have a much higher propensity towards domestic violence, rape, child abuse, than the general population. Now several magnitudes higher with this new fucking crop. So one can only imagine what is going on

in the concentration camps run by Border Patrol and ICE. Yeah, and, you know, like, I've seen a lot of people like demanding or fantasizing about like a future Democratic presidential administration, you know, actually holding accountable these people. that, or just vengeance, putting these people in jail. And I will say any future that does, and I'm going to restrain myself here, any future that doesn't involve at the very least life in prison for everyone involved at every level is one in which functionally we are officially no longer

have a government, a state, or laws, or a future of anything other than the ongoing, like, fascist degradation of all human life. Okay. And I'm willing to be surprised, but like I am really not optimistic about the Democratic Party, should they achieve power again in this country, should we're even allowed to have elections coming up in this country. And I think, I think, by the way, these ICE occupations of American cities and blue states should be seen as a sort of dress rehearsal for what they, I'm not saying we'll do, but are certainly fantasizing about doing to suppress the vote and cancel elections. That said, I'm sort of sanguine about the possibility of the Democratic Party, should they achieve or hold power again in this country.

I think like that's going to be it for them. I think it's time to move on like they always do, whether it was the Iraq war, 9-11, any of that stuff. I'm willing to be surprised. But I think we should state that like the blame for this lies, of course, first and foremost and primarily with Donald Trump and his top to bottom criminal administration. And I think we're seeing like the reality of a now almost completely senile man who is only interested in the office of the presidency in so far. far as he can enrich himself through outright theft and corruption, but also importantly, it allows him to stay out of jail for fucking kids. And he's currently being jerked around or puppeteered by the actual neo-Nazis in his administration or, you know, in terms of domestic

politics or electoral calculus, are driving him into the abyss right now. But I will say that more productively, perhaps, blame has to be assigned and laid at the feet of the Democratic Party in Minnesota and nationally for their absolute non-response to this and their utter failure to meet the moment or enforce the laws of this country. And I'm sorry, but the National Guard or local police departments

aren't coming to help you either. And to every legislative Democrat who just not even a year ago voted to thank ICE for their service, voted for these mammoth budgets, not just last time, but every time before this, had no problem. with the maintenance and ballooning of the contractor state

and the state within a state around DHS. Richie Torres this week put out some hyper-produced video that reminded me of those like, you know, those now this videos where this 59-year-old man played hopscotch for an amazing reason. And it's because he was raising awareness of middle child syndrome. But it was produced that way.

about how he's always wanted to abolish ICE, which I certainly could understand how some people could take that as a positive sign, but I took it as an overwhelmingly negative one. Because in just the same way that everyone was for Medicare for all throughout all of 2019 and the first quarter of 2020, Kamala Harris, of all people, was a co-sponsored the bill in the Senate. this will become the new position that every, not just presidential hopeful, but anyone who hopes to even sniff at leadership in the party will sign on to.

And because there were so few proponents of this beforehand who were actually willing to fight leadership, thinking specifically of AOC and Sanders, there is no mechanism to hold their feet to the fire. these people are not afraid of in the event that this falls out of the news cycle that people forget that a year, two year, three years passes, that someone who still wants to do this will go, hey, remember that fucking video you made?

Remember what all of you said when this happened? It just, I can see the writing on the wall. I've seen this movie play out before. I hope that I am wrong and I hope that through somehow, some way, that whoever gets it next, whoever wins the prize next is not necessarily a good or ideologically consistent person,

but someone who is at least interested in the viability of a political project four years after their hypothetical second term and realizes what needs to be done. Because even if you are, again, even if you are just like, all I want is fucking walkable neighborhoods and access to markets for health insurance,

there's no getting to there without hundreds of federal trials and these people in ADX Florence. There just is not. And, you know, like, obviously, like on this show, like, associated with, like, you know, like pointing out the shortcomings or hypocrisy of liberals or lib bashing. And you know what? Like, I have to be very clear.

I'm not doing that in this position in this. Because I think liberal Democrats are furious about this. and I think of like the people in Minnesota right now, the constituency of democratic politicians. Like I said like, you know, the National Guard or the governor is probably not going to help you. But I have to say,

I'm really inspired and encouraged by what I'm seeing from like the people of Minnesota. It got, didn't get much news coverage, but that rally that they had on Saturday was massive. It was massive. Yeah. It was at least 100,000 people.

And like they're showing way more like organization and spine. And like, look, I hope I am. I am proven wrong about how the Democratic Party reacts to this. But I'll just note that like the seven Democrats who just voted to advance the ICE funding bill in the House have now been kind of frozen in this position. And Tom Swazzy is already walking it back and saying I made a mistake and voting for it. Marie Concentration Camp Perez. We'll see what's going on with her.

But I would just note that like those seven Democrats, it was the seven votes was exactly what they needed to get the funding done. Oh, it's incredible how it always worked out like that. did not whip his caucus for voting against this. The seven Democrats, like, similar to Mansion and Cinema, they play the role of being, like, the Judas Goat to allow the rest of the Democratic coalition to make a symbolic vote that will be like, oh, I'm against funding ICE while the bill passes. But the thing is, those Democrats are now, like, if it was just one person they murdered,

they, like, look at the Searchlights Institute, or Adam Gentlesons or Trey Easton's tweets over the last week. Because after Renee Good was murdered, obviously there's a lot of polls showing like how out of pocket people think ICE is and how much they would like prefer that this, you know, federal death squad be abolished rather than retrained or, you know, I don't know, brought the heel in some other symbolic way. And, you know, I believe, I forget it was other Trey or Adam Gentleson. It was one of those Searchlight Institute bozos. But they were like, look, usually like, you know, the polling is like sacrosan to them. But they're like, look, a very horrible thing happened and we can't get carried away on what the immediate poll reaction is. Like,

you know, like, let's stay the course. No one wants to abolish ice. Let's just focus on retraining them in some vaguely unspecified way, what that will entail. Who knows? It doesn't matter. Well, okay, you can say that when it's one horrible incident polarizes national opinion or, like, you know, gets people's blood up. But how about two? How about three? And the thing is, like, now, now, like, these Democrats and, like, their, you know, flax in the media are now frozen in this position. And like, the thing is, like, people are not going to move on from this. And, like, I think that vote is going to stick to them.

I just, like, would encourage people to consider how these Democrats function, not just because they're bad Democrats, but in fact, they're, like, the best and most loyal Democrats because they're willing to, you know, say, do an unpopular vote to advance what is the actual interests and goals of the National Democratic Party, which is, you know, the continuance of this kind of shit. Yeah. I'm reminded of a conversation. I had in the middle of last year.

It was with a pretty prolific liberal who was actually throughout the course of the Israeli genocide, the Israeli-American genocide was actually very good on it. And you could tell that this person had sort of a crisis of faith and was negotiating a professional lifetime

of loyalty to this party with what he knew in his heart was something they were entirely culpable for. And it was a brief conversation, and you cannot draw too much from those, and a lot can change in even just a few months. But the thing that I kept running into was this idea that, like, okay, you believe these things, I believe you are totally sincere in them. How far are you willing to go to push back against the party if they do not show any signs

of changing. And I have had that same conversation with people who are less amenable to things that we believe, but we have some overlap on some things. And I just, there are some people who I think are more likely to do that

and some people are less likely. But if anything gives me any type of optimism with this specifically, it is the reaction of the rank and file liberal of America. Not the electives. Yeah. Not even necessarily yet media or independent media, but just the average liberal is fucking

furious and it does seem like they are, they're wising up to the rotating villain act. Yeah, that's exactly. The fact that all these people lectured them about how, you know, how they were too woke and we have to thank ICE every day and we all have to volunteer in ICE's cafeteria and make synabund for them. So the America, you know, we will never, will never again lose a cost of living election with a horribly shitty candidate by a landslide of 1.5 points. Not just in their reaction to the Democratic Party, but these people, they have put their lives on the line here. They have thrown their body against the machinery in a way that I think is incredibly admirable. I will be honest with you.

I never really got the obsession, the negative obsession, with one Will Stansel, because I thought a lot of his post, I disagree with a lot of his posts about the Biden, the Biden economy and everything. I thought they were stupid, but I also thought, this is just a guy. This is just a guy with some silly posts. You could be doing this on your local news's Facebook page. So I really never got it. But credit to him, he's an example of a guy who like thousands, like possibly millions,

is going out there and risking life and limb to try to impede this machinery of death and destruction. And that is a very encouraging thing. And the thing is, like I said before that like any future that doesn't involve, like I said, the prosecution and imprisonment of like lots of these people. And I'm talking about Greg Bowvine. I'm talking about Christy Nome. I'm talking about Stephen Miller.

I'm talking about Donald Trump. It is a future in which we are consigned to just an unending degradation of human life by fascist nihilism. And like that project is like, you know, it would not be inaccurate to call it white supremacy. But I've been thinking about this a lot recently because like the hilarious thing is that there are so many

non-white people involved in it. You know, I was thinking of the epic streamer meetup with like Nick Fuentes and, well, you know, all the clown car of like the Andrews and that like. I was in that like. I was there, either, like before you say,

who do you think filmed it? Were you mocking clavicular, whoever the fuck that kid is? I tried. I thought it would go well for me. Yeah, I got cracked by all those guys. Felix and I've been getting cracked

by, yes, by the Tate brothers, Sneiko. And the, like, and I was just thinking about this because,

I remember I was a while ago, I was like offhanded, kind of a joke, but I remember Brace told me that the project of America is to create a black Hitler and like, you know, Kanye just apologized,

so that's a big step back on that project. But I was just thinking about that and it's just like, what we're left with is like these people from whom like, it is just like, there's only the in-group and the out-group. And like everyone's just desperately trying

to get in the in-group and like have laws that protect them and, you know, the beneficiary of laws that they can use to terrorize everyone else. But the thing is, to these people, and what I'm talking about

is like, just like the jackals that you will see openly celebrating these murders and just being like, fuck yeah, is what I voted for. Like, the outgroup that they consider their enemy is probably 80% of this country. Yeah, because every time there's one of these

things, whether it is ice killing someone or like it's a new viral thing, you know, a guy gets into an argument with another guy in Jimmy Jones and he's triggered. And he's the new sensation. Newsboy Catman is the new avatar for liberals.

They're always like, this reminds me of every guy who helped me back a year. This reminds me of the teacher. Oh, the teacher. Am I reading out loud class that I was in in 11th grade? No, my God. Everyone knows a woman like this who calls the police

when you masturbate in her garden instead of just being cool with it. We've all had to deal with someone like this. And it's like, Okay, so like everyone? Everyone but you? I know. When you think about the end, like, you know, this is a,

I call for optimism. Because like, when you think about these people who are, you know, we all understand. These are not, these are people not fit to live in a society. Like, they're so socially maledroid and underdeveloped that they will probably never be able to like,

be productive, happy or like have a family or anything like that. And the thing is like, when you see the way they like, this feeds their, ego and how it's this like libidinal, pornographic exercise for them when they see their fellow citizens be executed by agents of the state.

The thing is like, for these people, they live in hell. And by that, I mean like, not literally, but I mean like to be inside their skull, to experience life every day for these people is to live in hell.

It is to be like in a self-created world of constant misery and fear and paranoia and alienation. And the thing is like, They will not be content until everyone else feels just a fraction of the fear and self-loathing that they experience every waking moment of their life. And it's this that I want to turn now to Alex Preti himself. Before transition to that, I just want to add to that. That's a great point.

But what they also want is it is an inherently self-contradictory goal that can never be achieved, right? they want everyone to feel they are in hell hell defined as a place that is just it is God is not there there's no grace there is no God there is no forgiveness there's no possibility of anything beyond their

immediate lives but they want everyone to feel that but they also want everyone to accept them and for everything to be a cool party where they're finally they are finally the social apex predator which are just

It's two contradictory goals. So you want to kill everyone, or you want them all just miserable, too afraid to speak, just moving from thatched hut to vatched hut when you and your gang of breakaway pants wearing former kickboxers come to town and commit a sex trafficking ritual. But you also want, like you also want the social cash of these lifelong enemies, do your lifelong tormentors, finally going, you know what? I was wrong about you. I could never be so smart

to look up World War II on Wikipedia if you did that. You're a genius. Yeah. And the thing is like, this is entirely self-imposed too. Like nobody has ever actually oppressed or victimized any of these babies.

Like this is like they have chosen to live in hell and they are now attempting with, you know, the power of the government behind them to make sure that the reality of everyone else matches their own like internal monologue and fear. Right?

Felix, did you see that, that, the new like sort of Nazi video the DHS Twitter account was posting that includes that part from the Werner Herzog documentary about Antarctica where the suicidal penguin just walks into oblivion.

And it's like Werner Herzog narrating, you know, like in typical Werner Herzog fashion, the kind of like existential dilemma of existing in this universe and the kind of like utter like suicidal madness that like imbues human life. And they're like, yeah, that's us. That's what we believe in.

And like, if you watch that video carefully, they're like, no one knows why the penguin walks away, but we do. And what they're saying is that we would rather die than live in a country that isn't a Nazi hellhole. People have pointed this out before, but that is the most distinct thing about the Trump two social media blitz is, a, the most sort of embarrassing by proxy thing is that it is just, you know, the eldest cohort of millennials. and some Korean war veterans who have just gotten are using 4chan language from like 10 years ago. That is, that is like bad enough. That is like, that is enough. I, you know, foolishly like 20 years ago, I would have thought that would have been enough for like a coalition to invade America. But I guess not.

But it's also, there is like a insane valorization of suicide in all of it. And look, far be it from me to tell anyone. to not just make most of their content about situations where you kill yourself. I think it's great to do in the first two minutes of a comedy podcast. But when you are the government of the United States and you're like, this is why we're doing it,

it's kind of fucking insane. And not just the fact that it's like the constant valorization of suicide, but the types of suicides they valorize. It's always like, you know, these, again, internet bullshit from like 15, 20 years ago. It's killed. or it's Sky King.

With Killdozer, you can at least, like, you can at least connect it to the general project and be like, oh, he was, you know, he was driven to his breaking point by fussy bureaucrats or whatever. But with Sky King was just a fucking mentally ill man who terrorized a city and abandoned his family so he could like ride in a Cessna before fucking killing himself. Like, what is, what is aspirational about that? And here he's heading off into the interior of the vast, continent. With 5,000 kilometers ahead of him, he's heading towards certain death.

Yeah, like, yeah, like unable to live with the contradictions of being an adult in the real world. I'll know, I'll just go for an act of suicidal vein glory that, like, you know, terrorizes other and leaves my family bereft. Very heroic. Yeah, and by the way, the penguin probably had like a type of syphilis that birds can only be. He wasn't doing that because he's like, oh, we're emperor penguins and the Galapagos penguins have immigrated. Yeah, no, like, we were emperor penguins, but now we've been reduced to serfs. Yeah, I'm so sick of the penguins of a different color are degrading our beautiful Antarctic culture. I'm so sick of these fucking Galapagos penguins coming on my drift of ice and playing fucking rap on their Bluetooth speakers.

I remember when white penguins used to run 7-Eleven. The greatest conservative essay of all time. Yeah. And like I said, I want to get back to this because, like, in contrast to the type of person we're talking about, I think it is instructive to consider this man who was just killed, who was just murdered, and what his life and death really represent. And like, before I get into this, I want to make clear, like, if Alex Pretty was, you know, a low life with a criminal record. It would in no way, shape, or form justify his murder or make his sacrifice like any less praiseworthy, right? But the thing is, like, here was a guy who was an ICU nurse at the VA, who was, by all accounts, beloved by his family, co-workers, friends. He was, like, someone with, I don't even know how to describe it.

He represented, like, he was a fucking Boy Scout. He was, like, in a stereotypical sense, represented, like, the best of what we tell ourselves about what young men in America should. be like. And I think that marks, and like, and his last words on earth before being shot in the back by these fucking pigs was, these swine was, are you okay? Because like, what got him killed was that he attempted to assist two women who were being pepper sprayed by these fucking criminals. And he was murdered for it. And like, when we think about like masculinity or like what the right constantly tells itself about about what it means to be a man. And like, you would just have to like think that this guy's life was like, shames them.

It shames them and that's, I think, ultimately why he, one of the sort of reasons why he was killed and why they celebrate his death so much. Because, like, they can't imagine a counter example to their lives of squalor and misery. Or the idea that anyone with like, you know, a job, a future, family would stick their neck out for anyone. else or exhibit bravery in any circumstance. And their absolute least favorite type of person for these guys specifically, the type of people who have joined the Border Patrol and ICE and numerous other federal agencies in last year, men who will intervene on behalf of women.

Yes, absolutely. This is the, if all those posts about like, you know, you, you, you've ran into this person your entire life. You hate them. If they were honest, it would be like, you know, the guy who intervenes, you're trying to grab a girl's wrist. Yeah. The guy who notices

that you fuck with her drink when she went to the bathroom. The guy who notices loud banging noises in the apartment above him. This is the real type of guy that all these people want to fucking kill. I think about him

and people like him, you know, like when, you know, when I hear about like, you know, wealth creators or like,

you know, what we owe to like, you know, billionaires in our society. And I just think like, I think an ICU nurse. I think, about the people we know who are nurses or first responders. I think about the nurses in the ICU

in L.A. who like saved Matt's life and like helped him like, you know, like one of our most difficult and certainly one of the worst moments in his life, many of whom I will know, if not were immigrants themselves, were certainly the children of immigrants. I think about people who do real work helping others, making, making sure like whatever threadbare strands of civilization and humanity are left in our culture, which are worth fighting for and are worth standing up for. These are the people doing it. And they are the absolute enemies of the people who run our government, which like I said, is like, I think you really have to understand the Trump administration as like, they are crooks top to bottom. Like, I know that's a simple thing to say. But these people like are not fit for real

employment. They're not fit for real human relationships. All they know is how to steal, intimidate, bribe, torture, kill. That's it. That's who these people are. They, they have nothing. they have nothing. And, you know, like I said, they were already backpedaling on Renee Good. Like J.D. Vance was like, you think after Renee Good and him walking that back, he would have, like, chilled out this weekend.

But no, everyone's getting the Israel treatment now. Like, anyone who resist you is a terrorist, no matter what they did. And like, I remember when Renee Good happened, I said, like, I hope no one will lower themselves to, like, be debating different angles of the video. But when that killing happened, you'll notice the reaction on the right

was all about parsing various freeze frames or different angles on this video so that they can conceivably justify like, oh, the wheels spun or, you know, it's clearly like, you know, he, she was trying to kill him with the car, blah, blah, blah, blah. You'll notice this time around, not a single person was making even reference to the video because, like I said, it's even more indefensible. They disarmed him and then shot him in the back on the ground 10 fucking times. And ran away. They ran away.

even if you were the most nihilistic person who's trying to make a highlight reel of all these fucking murders to give yourself some sort of libidinal thrill you could not put this one in it's too humiliating and what I will notice is that like rather than appealing to the video most of them just tried to say

just based on nothing that he was brandishing a gun or that he menaced these officers with a gun but like there's really nothing there I saw what's his name a Mencius moldbug Curtis Jarvin was just like he was just like, you know, when he clearly brandished the weapon, and like, even he couldn't keep up that facade for more than like five or ten minutes.

Yeah. By the way, under these same judicial standards, we can arrest Curtis Yarvin for the murder of his wife. His wife heard him talk for like 15 years and her body had the natural reaction to kill her by giving herself cancer. Curtis Jarvin, you are going to the gallows for premeditated wife. murder. But anyway. And I'll bring this up because, like, you know, he's considered one of the leading intellectual lights of the new right wing. I don't know how to describe him other than a

submental coward who can't even keep, who like tries to commit to an outrageous life for a minute and then he immediately folds because he's like, it cannot even be sustained by his like, limp-risted, uh, fucking sophistry. Did you, did you see that profile of him where just like every single day the reporter spends with him? He not only cries, but makes a point. covered it on the show. Yeah. But he went to that French Nazi's house and then like cried in front of him and the Nazi was like, could this pussy get out of here?

I'm fucking like, he could not stop fucking crying. It was the most fucking unnerving. Like, to quote Chuck Rhodes Sr., hide your shame from the fucking world, pal. Jesus fucking Christ. I do have some of my favorite reactions to this. And like there's a couple of people in my dishonor role that I want to talk. about. But Felix, in light of what we were talking about with J.D. Vance the other week being like, Secretary of Health, you forgot the, you've got the cookies and cream ice cream on the food pyramid.

The most dishonorable post ever made. In like adding to that role of dishonor, my favorite reaction over the weekend was, United Guys, Sorab Amari, Amiri. Yeah, another guy who cracked me. He's cracked all of us. Everyone in Compact Magazine has cracked me. Yeah, you know that you know the type of chlamydia that makes you blind

from not treating it? I've got it. It's from him. Who the, like, the other one of the topic, like, who the fuck is Compaq magazine for? Because, like,

this is a weird thing with So rab, is that, like, as far as I can tell, he's gone through about four or five different religious conversions as an adult. And like, and then the,

and an equal amount of political conversions as well. Because, like, you know, for a while there, he was like, Compaq Magazine is like, oh, we're like, you know,

New Deal Democrats or something. Or like, as best as like, Intel Compact is like, the correct way to be left wing is to be right wing, in fact. Yeah. I don't even know what their deal is, but like, so rab, like, when Renee Good was killed, like the day of, he was just like providing wise counsel to Democrats and liberals by being like, look, I know you're outraged about this, but please understand this is a 70-30 issue and you're

going to find yourself on the outs of like the vast majority of mainstream Americans. Well, he was correct about that, just not in the exact opposite way. Yeah. Is this issue we're not? And people have been holding that over him for the week. And, you know, he's been squirming in quite a uncomfortable manner. By the way, I think it, you know, whenever, whenever this iteration of this whole thing ends, I think Catholics, they're going to become like Zoroastrians and they're going to go,

no, no proselytizing, no one can convert this religion anymore. It's done. If you're born Catholic, you were chosen, no one can join anymore. Yeah, everyone else, I guess your fucking grandfathered in. Solab until you, you know, until you, you, you know, you read the Nicene Creed and you go, this was based. So, per the example of J.D. Vance's utterly shameful ice cream posting in the midst of, you know, slandering murder victims from his Gestapo.

Shout out to my friend Jake who, uh, described ICE as GED stopo. But anyway. So, so, Sorab has been like, you know, squirming nervously. Uh, because like, you know, like I said, in light of this other execution, which like I said, it's like somehow inconceivably even more grotesque

and indefensible than the last one. His post this weekend was like, hey, buddy, I think I'm going to watch Roshamon tonight. I was like, who gives the fuck? Shut up. Oh, yeah,

you know that movie about how a rape and murder can be viewed in different ways by different people? Interesting choice, sorry, that is, but like, again, when someone is trying to do it, like, it is just,

they want to kill themselves. they don't even want to kill themselves in a painless way. Like you're showing the temperature down. I think I'll I think I'll be watching the movie by one of the great masters, Akira Kurosawa.

What do you guys think about that? He thinks he's so fucking smart for that one. Everyone's calling him a fucking idiot. People who have known him his entire life are like, I can't believe you. I'm never talking to you again. You're a piece of shit.

How can you justify this? He's getting screamed at by all angles. Compact is they're trying to find like a different Soros air that no one knows about yet to give them more money. The included Soros air to give them another $1 billion. There's an included Soros no one knows about

that has only ever spoken Esperanto. So he will be able to read those articles and think they're good. But, uh, and fund that magazine for another year. But he, he, he went, all right, puppets dance. And it's just like, no one, like, this is your entire life. So, Rob. you have

this is it you have tried to carve out some space for like left wing national conservatism that has a lower

a lower organic propensity among American voters than even neo-conservatism everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot no one thinks you're going time to relax

with my true love cinema no what like movie mindset baby moving like son who are you fooling asshole i feel like it's just it's amazing when people i love that people do this too where they um they'll get yelled at and they'll post a picture where it's from their perspective with their legs crossed and a drink up in front of a pool and being like oh i'm really

upset right now and it's like yeah you you you because you took this picture you're still thinking about it you're still thinking about it you went out here and thought i'll show them It's like, JD and Soreb, this would be like the equivalent, right? Felix. Like, if you murdered someone and there was like video of it, of you committing a murder. And then everyone gets mad at me. Like a really sloppy, bad looking, like I beat someone with my espresso machine. For like a really stupid reason. Like some guy came in to fix my AC unit and was like, uh, that's actually a really bad setup for DCS.

And I was like, fuck you. Yeah. So like, for the purpose is this analogy. Like, yeah, Felix has committed a murderer. It's on video. It's grotesque. We've made no statement about it. And as far as, you know, like, you're still on the show.

Everyone's mad at me and Chris. Our mentions are just being like, how can you continue to do a show with this murderer? Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, repent. Repent now. Like, this is disgusting. And then I was like, and I just dropped the tweet that was like,

I think so will be diving into the catalog of one Walter Hill this weekend. You know, Or just be like, you know, the first two seasons of Next Generation get a lot of flag. But, you know, there's some pretty good episodes in there. Yeah, there's a video of me in the elevator in my building. And I am trying to attack one of those advanced cribs or advanced, sorry, advanced strollers with a baseball bat. And I get stopped by like a group of guys and I pull out a gun and open fire on all of them. and miraculously the baby survives.

But it's like a quadruple murder, and I get off on a technicality because I geniusly tell the cops I only speak Esperanto. I'm the occluded sorrows. And they go, oh, we don't know how to Mirandize him. I get off.

Everyone's yelling at me. And then I post a picture of a steaming hot mug of hot chocolate and de book Aragorn. And I'm like, get him back. into this one.

Just be like hunkered down for the big snowstorm this weekend. Literature. Just reading something fucking embarrassing for anyone older than 14.

Anyway, that's what that shit looks like. A little piece of advice for me to Compact magazine. Do you think Soreb is watching the Pendragon cycle?

Absolutely. He probably thinks he's too good for it. The Pendragon cycle. I finished Aragon last year. I'm reading at a ninth grade level. Next up of my favorite reactions. Weird Mike. Weird Mike Sernovich.

We haven't talked about him in what feels like years. But Weird Mike came through with a great post from just yesterday. This is what Weird Mike writes. High IQ people don't respond well to shrill noises.

From smoke alarms to those hearing loss causing machines that terror are using against ice. To be honest, those things should be considered a violent weapon. They damage hearing for life.

And I was like, what the fuck is Mike talking about? And then I realized he was referring to the hearing loss-causing machines that terrorists use. He's referring to whistles. Also, coincidentally,

the thing you blow around a rapist. I wonder why he's against those. It's a lifelong grudge. Hey, have you ever noticed how these things always ruin your plans? We all hate these things, right? And leaving aside,

calling whistles hearing lost terrorist weapons. The notion that ICE are high IQ people, like if high IQ people are bothered by whistles, I don't think we need to worry about anyone currently employed by Department of Homeland Security. Yeah, these people are like, this was the first time any of them had ever filled out a W2. Like, who are we fucking kidding?

Like, Jesus fuck, man. I know I'm not the most employed guy around, but come on. And last but not least, J.D. J.D. He chimed in yesterday and said, this is the little story he shared. He said, when I was in Minneapolis, I heard a number of crazy stories,

but near the top of the list. Okay, King Vaughn. But near the top of the list, a couple of off-duty ice and CPB officers were going to dinner in Minneapolis. They were doxed and their location revealed. And the restaurant was then mobbed. The officers were locked in the,

the restaurant and local police refused to respond to their pleas for help as they've been directed by local authorities. Eventually their fellow federal agents came to their aid. This is just a taste of what's happening in Minneapolis because state and local officials refused to cooperate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, he says like, this is just a taste of what's happening. Oh, some like fat asses had their meal ruined. Oh, did anyone shoot them in the head? Oh, sorry, my condolences. This is exactly like the same tenor as the ice cream posting. He's just like, you're just I know I know what the nation is consumed with these horrible snuff films that we're currently promoting and slandering the murder victims, our own murder victims, like a fucking serial killer.

But like, here's a much more harrowing story. Some fatties got in trouble at the buffet. I mean, yeah, for him, that is the most horrifying thing. But I'll take whatever's normal. He can end the most normal side. It reminds me so much, again, the parallels to Israel are endless here. But this specifically, this is just a taste. It reminds me of how Israelis would go, well, we actually have, we have secret footage of October 7th that proves not only did they do all the bad stuff that we say they did, but it's even worse stuff that we won't even mention because it's so horrifying.

And everyone knows we're very squeamish about violence famously. Yeah. Like we are, we really, we faint at the sight of blood. So we're not putting this out because we respect the victims and everyone so much. But if we really like you, we will show you the horrifying snuff films. And it's like, okay, if you're getting, like, you're constantly complaining about what an unfair, you know, trial by public opinion you're getting. You're bitching about how no one knows the real story. And you would think, okay, if this is just a taste and there's something even worse than, you know, the confrontation at the Blue Door Inn, that you would immediately jump on it.

because, you know, just like with Renee Good, you've wasted no time in digging through this guy's life, trying to find fucking anything that would justify murdering him in the street and failed. So why would you, why would you, why would you hesitate to go beyond just giving us a taste? Is there a two simple minimum at J.D's cafe? Many people are pointing this out, but like we are seeing, you know, we are seeing now like Americans get the, get the, it was a Hamas hospital treatment, you know? Like I said, like anyone who resists them is a terrorist by virtue of the fact that they were resisting them. Anyone standing close to them also reasonably suspected of being a terrorist just by their general vicinity to the crimes being committed by this state.

And you know what? I mean, I'm not going to, no need to read the whole thing, but a perfect example of this is Thomas Friedman's column yesterday in the New York Times. Minneapolis and Gaza now share the same violent language. You might expect from that headline that he would be comparing ICE to the Israeli military, but no, in fact, he's comparing them to Hamas. You know, and it's just like, gee, you know, you got the right part of the world, Tommy, but I think your analogy is maybe a little bit off. Well, I mean, as we know, ICE trains with Hamas, you know.

Several American police departments, too. And I just, I love, you know what I love about Friedman, though, is he was writing this. And when he sat down to do it, he really thought, like in his heart of hearts, he was like, I am going to turn the temperature down here. Yeah. Everyone is looking to me. I am going to frame this in the right way. I'm going to get this country back on track.

I think that is what's, I think most of the, most people, most article mongers are just wretched, wretched people. And Tom is too, but there is something like kind of weirdly innocent about him where he just, he just, he really does think that he's helping with his shitty articles. I know. I know. I guess I just read a little bit of it. He says here, every day now I sit at my computer and ask myself, what is there left to say about the two news stories I care about most? One is unfolding in my, you'll find something, Tom. One is unfolding in my hometown on the banks of the Mississippi River. The other is unfolding on the West Bank of the Jordan. and on both banks of the Wadi Gaza.

We're off to a great start. There are rivers in both countries, believe it or not. One's in my literal hometown. The other one's in my spiritual hometown. Which video should I linger on longest? The footage of Renee Good shot in the face by an ice officer in Minneapolis while she was clearly trying to evacuate the scene.

Or the video from Saturday of federal agents shooting Alex Jeffrey Prettie in an intensive care nurse after he tried to help a woman who was being pepper sprayed. Or perhaps the video from Wednesday showing the aftermath of Israeli strikes that killed three Palestinian journalists, among others, in Gaza. The journalists had been working for a committee providing Egyptian aid and were documenting its distribution at a displacement camp. Or perhaps the videos of Hamas executing rivals and refusing to yield, despite the fact that the war of the group ignited on October 7th has resulted in nothing but catastrophe for Palestinians.

One of these things is kind of not like the other, specifically. Because like, I mean, like, Hamas executing these fucking ISIS. collaborators who were stealing food and killing people. Like, fuck off. And like, spoiler alert, like the comparison to Hamas, ice to Hamas is that they hide their faces. And it's like, I don't know, Thomas, I don't know you noticed this recently,

but anyone who works for the Israeli government is also hiding their faces. You've seen those photos where they stand with their backs to the camera when they're like arresting someone. Because like, in the entire world over. Yeah. In their official portraits, it's with their backs turned because they'll be arrested in any country

with any semblance of law and order. And as you rightly put it out, ICE literally is trained by the Israeli. It's like... Tom, you let me down. Brother, Tom, do better. What do you think it would take to, like, I don't have high hopes.

I don't think I could make... I don't think I could get Tom to join, you know, any of my anti-NATO group chats. But, like, just to... Just to get him to be like, okay, you know, Qasam Brigade's like the Band of Brothers. Like, what do you think it would take? Because I think it's actually kind of possible.

It would just require like kidnapping, like a Patty Hurst type thing. I don't know. I get him to marry some billionaire who's a Palestinian or something. Or Shia or something. A Hadid sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Hadid family.

One of them should marry Thomas Friedman. Yeah. And, you know, like, as long as the comparison, is just sitting out there. It's a thought I've had quite a lot over the last couple weeks. I've mentioned it here. It's certainly not a novel thought.

But like in thinking about like what we're seeing now and like the way our own government is like, you know, using Israeli tactics to justify their, you know, murders. And they're, you know, exclusively like undemocratic, apartheid-like policies of racially racial purification and ethnic cleansing.

I really feel like, for my, entire adult life, it's always been there. And I think, like, to the extent that you're, no matter what time you became politically aware in this country, you can point to examples. But, like, I really feel like we have slowly been unlocking the gate to hell at so many points in my, like, adult life. And every bit, like, when most of this was done overseas, and I feel like the last step in, like, unlocking that last gate really was the genocide of Palestinians over the last two years. And seeing our entire government, both parties sign on wholeheartedly, underwrite all of it, and refuse to change even one iota.

Whereas not holding anyone accountable for the Iraq war to this, it's just like that that road to hell is now just like a freeway. And we're, we're like well on the way. Like, I don't know how else to describe it. But like, if you think these two things aren't connected or you think one is a distraction from the other, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I mean, you can draw it as far back as Iraq, any other military adventurism before that, or as close as the American-Israeli genocide in Gaza, but there's just no compartmentalization of this. If a human life is worthless enough to be written off as a necessary cost, either for the main state of goals of your political program, or as a unfortunate side effect, something that you needed to vote for

because it was unpopular at the time, or it's just simply too difficult to stand up against, there is nothing preventing people from extrapolating that equation. There is a knock-on effect that devalues human life wherever it is. I don't think there's any single reason for why America has so many more mass shootings than other place. We certainly have, there's certainly a greater availability of firearms, but there are other places where there's also very high rates of gun ownership. But it seems to be a very specifically American crime.

And I just, I don't think you can extract one from the other. It is almost like it is a pantomime of what our soldiers and contractors do abroad. And you just, you cannot be peppered with this culture. every single day of your life where the bombings of cities, these massacres are set to music and played like action movies for people and the death count is obscured, celebrated,

or written off as just an expensive lesson and not have it, at least with people who are already kind of wacky, make them do something like this. If you were instructing them that human, life is this worthless, that is what you are going to always get. I know. That's what I mean about a future in which there is like nothing but like a fascist and nihilistic

degradation of all human life. I think that's what we're seeing here. But I like, on the one hand, that's caused to despair. But like as I would like to reiterate, as I said at the top of the show, you are also seeing a much larger counterweight to that right now in terms of the people of Minnesota and people all over this country that are out in. the streets that are protesting that are standing up for like not just their constitutional rights, but like the very concept of like the meaning and value of human life, of their neighbors,

of their community of themselves. And like I don't think we should lose sight of that or despair, like, you know, like be too despairing about this. I think it has to be confronted soberly and with clarity, but like that that would include not just like an intense like an only feeling of futility or depression over how bad that. this all is because like I said like I think the people in Minnesota are showing the way right now and like I know that there's like

I don't expect them to get much help from their own government or the people they vote for but like you shouldn't expect it and like they don't need it you know and like I just have to like reiterate my admiration for everyone in Minneapolis and Minnesota who is standing up to this shit right now. Well 100% and

I feel very confident in saying that there are more people who've value human life and are disgusted by this, whether it happens here in Gaza, in Iraq, or anywhere, then there are people who are animated by it or even just passively accept it. And I do feel like for once in this country that the people who are disgusted by that are not just going to go along to get along, as has always been the case here. Yeah. Obviously, an issue that's come out of this latest killing is like the Second Amendment and where that's left, where that leaves everyone. Because like, you know, Alex Prattie was a, had a legal permit to carry that gun. And like, that gun is, you know, the reason, the excuse that they have for murdering him. He was, did not take it out. He did not even touch the gun at any time during this interaction. And look, like, I was raised in New York City. I'm not a gun guy. I'm probably never going to be a gun guy. Like, to me, it's just like carrying a gun.

owning a gun is a kind of psychic oppression that doesn't sit well with me personally. I'm not judging anyone else. But I think it should be clear now that like most libertarians and second amendment type people, of which I would say like 10 to 20 percent of them are like sincere, thoughtful people on this issue. But the other 80 percent, I'm sure like I'm not telling anything new to anyone listening to this show. They do not believe for a second that owning guns is some sort of like bulwark or check on a tyrannical government, they view it only as an exercise in their own tyranny over others, and they view having guns and having guns everywhere in this country, and the use of guns against people as basically a check on democracy, not on tyranny. It's an exercise of their own

tyranny, not anything like brave or courageous or standing up against, like, agents of the state who also have guns. Because, I mean, I think it should be clear from the reactions to this, that most of the gun people in this country are thoroughly on the side of ice. And that's not all of them. I know some of you are probably gun people. And like I said, like, I admire you, do you stand up for what you believe in?

But like the vast, libertarians writ large, they only oppose the state and so much as the state is a check on their exercise of exploitation and tyranny over other people. I am not a huge gun guy. I was introduced to them

when I was a little kid when I went to camp and I really took to riflery and trap shooting. I tried to buy a gun in, why didn't even get to that stage? In New York, you have to, someone who's like normal has to write a letter to like the police saying like,

this guy's normal. He's not going to do anything nuts. And I wanted to get a gun for the best reason to buy one. So I could play with it while I was working at my computer. I wanted to learn how to do all the tricks that Revolver Ocelot did.

I thought it would be cool. I wanted to get a revolver for that purpose, and then I would, of course, get Naked Snakes M-1911. But I wouldn't have the boss to metaphorically castrate me by ripping it apart and running off on her horse. So that would be great. But, you know, the guy I was, I asked, like, hey, you're the most normal guy I know.

Can you write this letter saying he's not going to go to the news and order them to, like, read an 18-minute-long speech he prepared about young money cash money. And he's an anti-gun guy. So he went, no. And I went, I understand that was the end of that. And the gym's opened anyway soon after. So, you know, that saga didn't continue.

But, you know, I think a lot of guns are cool. I would much rather own a plane. And I think a gun is just to stand in for a plane for me. But I like shooting them. I've always like target shooting. I like shooting them too. I mean, they are fun. It's just like, I'm not.

But that is like the thing that really turns me off is like how all there's just so many people own guns in this country that it's hard to like draw a single type of person. But like the most vocal gun rights people, they are like often my least favorite type of fucking person, which is exactly like the people in Texas who brag about being independent cowboys and then fucking bow and scrape grape and sign a pledge that they will never insult Israel. The gun people are the same way for the most part. I fuck the fuck the feds I want you want to do what you want I'll put a fucking switch on my clock and then it just

every time something like this happens they feared for their lives yeah it really fucking turns me off from the whole thing and it just it makes me want to commit instead a cryptocurrency scam

so I can get what I really want which is a decommissioned F-16 and you try to shoot me out of the sky and you know like a maverick heading at your at your house you know like I we talked on this episode about like the sort of the demonic reaction to these murders and the people who openly celebrate

them. But like I think more insidious and I think worthy of comment is sort of the, I don't know, the ways in which like the sort of establishment media is attempting to sort of massage the fat, massage the way they present this. And like, for instance, in the New York Times, I just want to find this real quick. It says, yeah, this is their account of the killing of Alex Prattie. when it says here, an agent had already removed Mr. Preti's gun when two other agents opened a fire, shooting him in the back as he lay on the ground. Federal officials sought to portray a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident killed by Border Patrol agents on Saturday as a domestic terrorist, saying he wanted to massacre law enforcement, even as videos emerged, that appeared to directly contradict their account.

Oh, that's how generous of you. They appeared to direct, contradict what they were saying. But I want to point also to the Wall Street Journal and an editorial that said, I want to read this. It says, videos aren't always definitive, but this is how it looks. And it's clear all these editorials are saying that, like, DHS and the Trump administration are directly lying about the circumstances of these killings. But within that, they attempt to constrain it in a certain way where it says, they say, Wall Street Journal writes, videos of an event aren't always definitive, but this is how it looks to us.

Predy attempted, foolishly, to assist a woman who had been pepper sprayed by agents. And that, to me, is what is so insidious here. Because, like, what they're implying is, like, of course he didn't deserve to die. Of course, the shooting was unwarranted. But he was sort of complicit in his death because he foolishly attempted to come to the aid of a woman who is being pepper sprayed by these murderers. And I think, like, what they're trying to say is, like, you're right to feel outraged by it. But if, but if that outrage transforms into actions that lead you to directly resist or confront these, you know, Gestapo forces in the streets of your community that are victimizing your

friends, neighbors, colleagues, coworkers, et cetera, that that's like, that that's, that's foolish and suicidal in a way, or sort of misplaced or dangerous or radical or something. And not suicidal in the cool way, like when you steal the plane and kill yourself for no reason. I saw someone who compared the interplay between these more

traditional Wall Street General style conservatives and the Trump people, sort of like Mike Erman Trout yelling at Walt before Mike is killed. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a great analogy because it is just two different interpretations of a criminal enterprise.

And this journal editor, this journal editorial and this, the reactions from most of these establishment conservatives who predate the Trump movement, they're particularly harrowing because the, because of the Skinwalker nature of it. Right. Compared to just the raving, stupid mass shooter who is eventually put down by police that the Trump people are, these are serial killers who operate over decades that are never caught. Exactly. It's more, it's sort of more harrowing because they go, look, we know it's, to you people, it's upsetting when a woman is in agonizing pain.

But pretend you're us and just get hard and don't do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And they're, but they're, they're running the, you know, old W or HW playbook that they would run for much less out of control scandals for this. for this. And it's really just it is an impossible needle to thread because the only way you actually can defend this

is if you go, hey fuck this guy. It's awesome. We killed him. There's no way to defend it on the merits of like, you know, hey, look, I don't like summary executions in the street. I'm a fucking bill of rights guy. No, that path is closed. That is completely closed.

All right. Well, I have one last story that I would like to address today. And like, I This is tangentially connected to the events transpiring in Minneapolis. But, like, I would say that it's been a heavy episode. So I'd like to at least close with a look at the lighter side of the news. This comes courtesy of some intrepid reporting being done by Daniel Boguslaw. But it would appear that Washington State Representative Marie Glucent Camp Concentration Camp Perez was a Mids dealer in college. Yeah.

This is, you never want to see this happen in reverse. We actually have, we haven't, it's the first ever chop o NGO. We are re-offering re-education, hypnotism. We were trained by Scott Adams. You can check our instructor lineage on the web page and brainwashing to, if you've worked for the third way, even if you've been an elected official who is third way, we will subject you to mental torture and MK Ultra and all types of things. So you will become a Mids dealer because we believe in rehabilitation. But watching this happen in reverse, you never want to see it

happening before. It's really sad. It's really fucking sad. Daniel's sources, I'm just going to quote from one of the texting of it says, bought many ounces of stemmy mids from Madam Congresswoman. And he says, not an at ounce, but when I was without my druthers, I'd get ounces of shake from her. Daniel says, and you'd say it was Witches Mid, 100%, the middest of mids in a like court sandwich bag, just straight leaves, nasty stuff.

Oh my God. You know it's great mids when the dealer doesn't even really weigh it out. Yeah, yeah, he's like, just taking it. Because they're like, yeah, whatever. I'm just trying to get rid of it. I'll say, I'll pay you to take this Ziploc bag off of me. Yeah.

They just like, doesn't have a scale of any type. You're just telling you to that. How many do you want? Two handfuls, three? Okay. Now, apparently, this took place, this took place at Reed College in Oregon, which is, like, known as a very, like,

you know, crunchy weirdo school. It's a good school, but, like, it has a reputation for being, like, crunchy, quirky weirdos go there. Apparently, she was still dealing mids to kids at Reed two years after she had graduated. And apparently, someone has a photo. That's awesome.

Someone has a photo of her that she would show up to sell these giant bags of shake on a bicycle that I can only be described as a reverse penny farthing with one very large back wheel and then a small front wheel. Oh my God. This is like,

when I was like 21, 22, I would always try to like, I would become friends with like, like elder millennial hipster girls like who are around MGP's age and just always, they would always just be like, oh, you're so nice.

You never turn it to anything. She would have made me so sad in the summer of 2012. I would have been like, she's so cool. She's a drug dealer. Her bike's so cool. Does she know about Interpol? Mind over time? It's a hidden track.

She'd be like, yes. I'm 31. I go, uh, I just got to, I gotta find this. Uh, so someone in my, yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

Like, okay. I'll send, I'll send you guys a photo of her on the bike. Just like, I like, I can imagine her like on this bike, but like it has one of those like old like turn of the century car horns that are like, awuga, mince for sale. Seeds for sale. So I reposted that and someone replied to Daniel Bogoslaw and she said she was a zoo bomber. And I was like, okay, that piques my interest. And apparently zoo bombing refers to bike punks in Portland would get kids, BMXs, PMX bikes. meet at 13th in Burnside Sunday night to smoke and joke about their injuries from the week earlier,

then ride the max train to the top of the hill where the zoo is, bombed down and repeat. Very Portland, Oregon coded. But I have to say, when someone referred to Marie Concentration Camp Perez as a zoo bomber, I initially thought she had set off an explosive device at a zoo. But not because she was like an animal liberation front, she was setting off a bomb to like to kill a gorilla, specifically,

Like an assassination of like a bear or something. She was like the exact adversary to the ELF. Like I love the idea. I love the idea of like a weather underground that's like fuck a ring it hangs. We hate them. You know what I love about this whole. And by the way, credit to Daniel Boguslaw, I think an unsung MVP of the last few years of the show because he really,

he has a knack for getting stories that are both like 80, 95% of bogus laws stories, city files are like something horrifying about like the contractor state, like a Natsack state thing that's like no one else would have dug into like great reporting and then like

5% is like this. So it's really like the perfect I think we have done like five million stories sourced from him over the last few years since he's been a reporter. But I love this one because it's like how much money

could she have been making? You know, like what is, like on a, again, however she was getting the mids, you know, who was selling it to her, the profit margin has to be what, like $75 per kilogram sold? So she wasn't like, she wasn't like doing it to make ends meet.

She's just like, maybe it was like a way for her to make friends. So a way to smoke for free, but I guarantee you she's probably losing money on this as well. If I had to guess what was going on here, look, she likes to say she's a farm girl, she's from rural Washington, and by that it's like a suburb of Seattle

or wherever the fuck she's from. Don't care, don't correct me. My guess is, like, as a sort of a corked up lead college, rural Washington person, she probably knew someone who had like a weed farm. Yeah. They were probably friends of them,

and they're like, when they bag and cut, they probably let her sweep up the floor, like a barber, shop and just like push all of that dirt into like a giant garbage bag that she then sells to college kids. Oh, she did the boomer thing. Like she went into the weed farm and started sweeping to show them with a hard worker she was.

They paid her in that and like in the dirt that she swept up on the floor. And all she had to do is pick out like the dead mice and shit from sandwich bags of weed. Of like, and it's like it's like it's like a ravaged by mold. Like just desic, like just horrible. Horrible. I would like more reporting on this because I would I would suspect there's like an actual weed body count

associated with their drug dealing. Oh my, yeah. She may have sold shit so bad it killed someone. People were getting diseases that like only existed in pre-industrial England because of her shitty weed. By the way, the farm thing made me, it reminded me

my favorite boutique regional crank theory that I ever heard, I've talked about it a million times. over 10 years in the show. It is the thing that cab driver told me in 2016 that Saad Hariri is actually King Fad's son. And that Rafi Qariri only made his fortune because King Fad said,

I will give you all these contracts if I can fuck your wife. And Rufi Kareari said, sure, pal. You know, I kind of like the theory a lot. Like King Fad and Saad have a similar side profile. I think there was a lot to it. I have just repeated this fact for all these years.

I'm going to, here's a new one. Here's one for the Western Hemisphere. And I think you'll really run with this one. If you're a teacher, tell your kids this. The younger, the better. Let's get them repeating this. Marie Gluzing Camp Perez is Jaira's illegitimate daughter. They have a really similar brow line, similar eyebrows.

They both grew up on farms doing, God knows what. Weird affect. Marie, due to her mother, not having a host of genetic disorders seems to stay away from the hospital. But I think there's a lot of similarity there. And I think Jair has avoided Washington State because he feels kind of bad about it.

But I think, no, I think a young Jaya, a dashing young Brazilian military officer who was a sort of lower middle management in the military dictatorship sometime in the 80s. He made his way to Washington State once for a fact-finding mission. And he just, he just charmed the pants off some farm lady. No, no, he went to Washington State for a failed military operation

against Orcas in Pugas and Puget Sound, of which 12 of his comrades perished. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was like the fucking battle the bulge for the Brazilian military. Well, look, if she was just content with just being a Mids dealer, like concentration camp Perez would be, thoroughly unobjectionable to me. But I will just state this in the broader context of today's show.

She voted to expand funding for ICE. She is a collaborator with the Nazi state. And I will just merely point out she was one of several politicians, as her Klein said, is the future of the Democratic Party. So we'll see how he backtracks on that over the next couple of weeks, if he says anything at all. But nothing but bad wishes to Marie Concentration Camp Perez. I hope she smokes some shit that is,

I hope she smokes a joint that's mostly bug larva. Well, I hope she gets visited by another one of our, one of the great characters of our show, Matt Christman creation, Captain Freakout. Captain Freakout. I hope she's a prisoner in Captain Freakout's groovy prison, you know, when we take power. Captain Freakout's still alive, by the way.

Captain Freakout's 107. if you only smoke seeds it's like you know it's sort of like the nation of Islam thing you should read Captain Freakout's book The Way to Smoke and Live I mean I don't know I see I'm not sure if Captain Freakout is still alive but if you smoke seeds

on the rag he will visit you like the ghost of Christmas past yeah and he will have whether he is a spirit or a living person he will have custody over Mary Glews and Kent Perez and I think you know you're talking about how all these guys they can't fit into society. I think if we get, you know, American Free Officers Movement,

again, this is our best possible case, our government made in our image, we will make Branson's idea of Ho Island. It will be a reality. And it will, it's going to have to be a pretty fucking big island or peninsula because it's going to have to house like 15 million Americans.

About Florida. About Florida. It's a peninsula, but, you know, I think it would suit those purposes. because 90% of the people currently living there are hoes and lizards. It would cut down on transportation costs. I mean, I would like it to be separated by oceans, but if we can put like a wall up, fine. Build that wall. I don't like how close it is to Georgia.

I think that's like, you know, I love and respect the people of Georgia, especially Atlanta. I would love to get jumped into a twerking gang there. But this is kind of stupid. laughing about Jasmine Crockett being president and she's like it's like

the Dennis Quaid Reagan movie and it's like the big climax where she's running for re-election and no one thinks she can do it and she's facing off in a town hall against Tony Doco pill who's hosting it

and he's like President President Crocket you you said that 98% of men in Philadelphia are gay said 99% of men in Atlanta are gay you said it's gay

to order lemonade in a restaurant. We've crunched the numbers here at CBS. According to you, 53% of American men are gay. That's not possible. And then it looks like her campaign's over. And then she goes, I bet you order Ferraro Roche chocolates online.

And it's just like the There You Go Again thing for the Reagan movie. He's like, he's like, what? I do it. A plus gay to order chocolates online. Even if I did. Why would that matter?

Yes, I ordered dessert last night. Yes, I order desserts. I order lemonade. I have three kids. Everyone who calls him like D.L. Tony from there. Like, it's just, I think that I hope she becomes president for that reason. I think she's horrible as a politician. But, like, as a person, I love her.

I think she's great. And I thought it was so funny how they, people were like, lady, you suck. And she was like, oh, yeah, well, if we're going to, lose anyway, then why does it matter? That was awesome. That was awesome. I wish she didn't, like, her beliefs didn't

suck so much because she's so close to being, like, the perfect person, you know? Didn't, like, Bowen Yang and some other dude'd have to apologize to her for just, like, being like, yeah, I don't support her campaign. I think. Oh, yeah. Minocuous, like, critique of her as a politician. A couple guys, a couple guys who order

lemonade in restaurants, if you know what I mean. A couple of men who have breakfast out together. Well, I was going to say, speaking of Tony Gokopal, Catherine's article about Tony and the Barry regime at CBS is up now at The Intercept. We'll put a link in the show description, but I would suggest everyone check that out. Because, by the way, Barry said there's an all-hands meeting tomorrow at CBS

to determine the future of their news operations. So quitting already? I mean, like, Kalshi, here's another parlay. Barry resigns tomorrow or steps back from running the news operation and I would bet on that because like look bloggers, podcasters doing real work

no thanks and I should know we can smell our own. I don't know. I feel like I'm unfortunately we've become very acquainted with Barry over the years and I think like so CBS had like one good night because NBC News preempted the news so they could like show some basketball game or something

yeah there was an NBA game on. and all the people who are like, oh, does CBS suck now? And it's like, you know what? As long as all the other networks stop running news, they will do just fine. You're right. As long as they do that forever. But I do think like Barry is like a pompous enough person for this meeting to just be like, ah, see?

Check it. Look. Yeah. Probably probably being a little too much whisk casting here on my part. But like I just said, I know the mentality. I know the type. I share it, whether it's Dan Bonga I know, Barry Weiss for myself. Working a real job? No thanks.

Yeah, it's not for us. I mean, I say that, but like I am working on a snow day right now. I'd like to make that very clear. I hope all you hogs are happy. I had to go to the office today. Yeah. I have to, do you know how many dead bodies I saw trudging to my computer? It's like Everest.

But there could have been some. It's like the top of Mount Everest. Yeah. Just frozen corpses everywhere. All right. Let's wrap it up for there For today's show, everybody That's it

Until next time Bye bye You smoke good, correct? Yes Fire? No, Reggie, nothing above Mids Can you explain this tweet from September 5th? I'm absolutely gone off that loud

I consider Mids loud I get fully destroyed Off half a hit of that booty shit I see Objection, Your Honor Your Honor Your objection is noted And it is your contention

That Mids actually get you more fucked up That's correct Your Honor. At no point were you aware of what strain you were on, whether it was Sotiva or Indica dominant. To the best of my recollection, no, sir, was merely that concrete.