Chapo Trap House - 1063 - Blue Collar Symphony feat. Bryan Quinby & Chris James (8/17/26)

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

The titular Guys are back! We continue our coverage of the deteriorating conditions on the USS Abraham Lincoln before checking in on two women in politics: Nancy Mace and Natalie Harp. We then do a deep dive into the world of mafia-turncoat-influencers, former made men in the Five Families who now run YouTube channels to talk about food, gay people in the mafia, and how you should spend your money. If you’re in Canada, check out the CHUNKS live screening on Sept 1. with Amber Frost, Nate Fisher, and the Important Cinema Club: https://paradiseonbloor.com/movies/chunks-toronto-premiere And in Charlottetown, PEI on Sept 4th and 5th: https://tivolicinema.com/production/chunks/ Chapo & Friends Live at New York’s Society for Ethical Culture on Friday November 6th is SOLD OUT! TOO BAD! CHUNKS now available for streaming purchase at www.patreon.com/chunkstv

Hello, everybody. It's Monday, August 17th, and this is your choppo. Joining Felix and I on the program today is our good friends, some good guys, from guys, Brian and Chris. Welcome back to the show, fellas. Thank you for having us. Well, I speak for Chris, actually. Brian speaks first. He's not really allowed to talk. I'm like a capo, sort of, and he's...

So I wait for him to speak, and I... It's sometimes getting awkward, but yes, thank you so much for having me on and my boss as well. At least you got made. I've been on this show for 10 years and they still haven't opened up the books yet. Oh, I'm a made man. Guys, man. A, being a made guy isn't all it's cracked up to be as we will dive into you in this episode, which we'll be sharing some of our favorite guys,

some of our favorite mafia turnt coats turned Instagram and YouTube influencers with Brian and Chris. I know you guys have already done a mafia guy show, but it's been a bit of a fascination of Felix in mind, and we thought, who better than our favorite guys talking about guys, to talk about these guys. But before we get into the trials and tribulations of the mafia

in contemporary American society, I would like to talk about a few quick hits from the news to start the show. And Brian and Chris, I'm wondering, have you guys been following the saga of the USS Lincoln, the aircraft carrier and the Persian Gulf at the moment? I have because after about two years, I've decided to listen to political podcasts again. So I have learned about it.

It sounds really bad for those guys out there. I have not been following it at all. And I did that on purpose. I saw, I knew you guys might be talking about it. I thought it would be nice to kind of, I can be this sort of ignorant person that you explain it to. Normally, I'm very up. on this kind of thing.

I love it when a guy does that on a podcast because he didn't read. He's like, how about you teach me? I'll be like the listener, you know? Well, just a brief primer for Chris and the listener. The USS Lincoln is an aircraft carrier that has been deployed to the Persian Gulf for about a year now. And basically, it's become a news story because family members of the sailors aboard are reporting generally not just a collapse in morale, but a collapse in morale due to horrendous conditions aboard the aircraft carrier, including a lack of food, water, just showers and

toilets and absolute disrepair, just rust, mold, shit, everywhere. And like, this has led to, you know, some speculation that there have been a number of suicide attempts. Felix and I discussed this on our last episode. But I guess I'd like to bring it up now because it continues to be a story. And this story broke over last week and then going over the weekend. And I think what I want to talk about is the difference between and have a line on what should be the White House's line on these sailors. And when the story broke last week, the line from the White House was it's all fake. All of these are lies. Don't believe the family members. They have wonderful food. They're loving it. They love being there. They wish they could be there longer.

They never want to go home. They support the president and love him. And the food is great. And they have nothing to complain about. So the fact that the story, that didn't put the story to bed, it's going on over the weekend as well. But now the line from the White House and in particular Fox News and the right wing media. And this is really an event I've been praying for my entire life. But they've finally stopped denying how shitty the conditions are.

And they're just saying, these troops are fucking pussy. These sailors should put the fuck on. One thing that I wanted to mention that people obviously, they zero in on the moldy showers and the, I guess Mikey Miles is not the executive chef to the USA. He finally has caught his big break. I mean, I don't know why these tailors need SSRIs

when they get to look forward to the oils like boiled, wet, and beefed gray. Let's not forget. Yeah, gray slab. Gray, wet slab. That is a soldier. That is a sailor's a Lloyd. I'm sorry.

But they also just like have run out of SSRIs. And they like, they were like about a month or two ago. They're like, you might want to consider tapering off SSRIs, which just for anyone who has done that or even. just well-buttred, which isn't an SSRI, but people respond similarly to it. It is like horrific to do. And you're doing it while, yeah, while you're fighting in like this fucking pointless war where you, you have been, even the most loyal copradors, you've been pushed out of their reports.

I saw a report from a sailor purportedly on the Lincoln who said that they, they were visited by a higher up. a big wig at Centcom. And he came on the boat and delivered a bunch of good sounding news and then said, and, you know, final thing, um,

don't worry about your mental health because if you feel sad, you can just like take a jog. That's nice. Like, great, great advice. Well, you know,

you know, like a lot of people, a balkland therapists tell them that, but you know what? It's really true. You know, just getting a little exercise. Yeah.

Go run around the big boat here on. Sounds great. You can do a tour of all the moldy showers. The boat that you've spent a year on that's making you go fucking stir crazy and suicidal. Just spend some more time getting acquainted. Go to the boiler room. The guy that says the highest point on the ship. The guy that said something like, why I was in a military, I would wish for a corn dog.

Yeah, but that's not like the kind of food you should be eating all the time. to sustain yourself. And we did MRE guys and those things last a long time. So if they have some of those on the boat, that's what they should be eating. Yeah, do they have? Why don't they have good MRE?

I think those are for soldiers, not sailors. You know? I see. Yeah, because they always did say that like guys that were in the other branches of the military was like, all these Navy guys get all the best food. Like that was the big.

Not anymore. Like, they'd be killing for a fucking MRI now after some of the shit that I've seen slopped out to them. Yeah, they can't fish. Well, I guess the boat's probably really big. So, wait a second. Wait a second.

I never thought about that. Like, obviously a fishing pole. You know, the deck of the aircraft carrier probably a little too high up. But just like drag a big ass net behind the aircraft carrier. That wouldn't help. Yeah.

That is so fun to go fishing on a fucking nuclear propelled marine. And, like, the tenor of the sort of, like, commentary about these ingratful, these ingrates, these gold-bricking sailors who were like, well, I want to go home. I don't have food or water. What are we doing here? And then people are like, first to deny that, like, this is all propaganda. It's just one guy complaining. But now just the... One guy who's really good at complaining. Yeah. He's a pro. But like I yeah Brian I've been loving seeing like like Gulf War veterans sound off in the replies being like huge fucking pussy. Yeah yeah. But like it is beautiful to me that we have gotten to the point where it's like the right wing now are straight up saying fuck the troops. And you know what way?

I think that's progress. I yeah. I mean I think to myself like it's this generation right. Like I betcha on the on the boat there's probably hoses that they could be. drinking out of, but they just don't do that anymore. I want a bottled water, please. Yeah.

We go in when the streetlights on the boat go out. When the boat lights turn on, then we know when to go to bed. You know, it's true. Chris, I heard that in the entire like, just all the officers on the boat, none of them

remember rewinding the tape before bringing back to blockbuster. And you believe that. Sad. Do you think for the guys on the USS Lincoln, like in terms of R&R and R and like the sort of amenities from home, do you think it's like one of those things where it's like, you know, like you go to like you rent a summer house or something? Like you're at a cabin or whatever. You're bored as hell as a kid.

And like the house has like two movies on DVD or VHS. You think it's like that on the USS Lincoln? They have like, you know, they have like, five old goes west. And then like, oh, yeah. I always hated that when I was a kid. And like there would be like one rated R movie, but it was, um, that movie were like a merchant ivory like period drama. Yeah.

It was, yeah. What's that movie where Benicio del Toro like, uh, like this woman cheats on her husband with Benicio del Toro because he runs a bookstore. You're like, you're like, oh, you're like, oh, you're like, oh, you're like, oh, you're like, you're like, I guess this is rated R. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Some like courtroom drama.

movie that they're in R for like language. Nobody wants that. Yeah. You know, it's just like, you've been deployed in the Persian Gulf for over a year and it's like, I've already seen runaway jury 30 fucking times. Yeah. It's got to be because of the way,

it's probably just, they're allowed to have like five DVDs and they're all Stephen Segal movies because of Pete Higgs and thinks everything else. That'd be the perfect movie. That'd be the perfect movie to be watching. on a fucking aircraft carrier where you feel like you're a hostage already. Yeah.

And it just, it just, uh, uh, Hegseth picks the movie. So they're all like, he's like, he's like,

our high tea alpha warriors. No more will they have to endure children's movies like Shrek 2? Or bubble goes west an American bill. They're watching real war movies about warriors like 300. Now they just have 800

the Blu-ray copies of 300. They just airlifted those in. Yeah. But like sort of a corollary to the story. I don't know you guys saw this, but Treata Parsi posted a photo of like, basically it's like the wing of an airplane. And like it's basically all the shit that like airmen or sailors have written in the dust on the wings on this wing of this one plane. And it's all shit like, can't wait to die for Israel. B.B.'s cucks.

This sucks. Get me out of here. I'm a good guy. I want to die for Israel. And that was really good because you read the replies to that. And it's all just like, A, it's either it's Iranian propaganda or B, once again, it's just one really upset soldier who's doing a guy who is good at. He can write in different. Like he can make it look like different writing, but it's just one dude doing it.

Well, I mean, Will, you, Will, you were a up and coming street artist at one point. Yeah, that's true. Do you think that's just his tag? B.B. Like the good Goy? Yeah. Bebe's cut. Is that like a, would you, would you, if that was your graffiti name, would people respect you?

I think G would be a great graffiti name. You know, it's like simple. Yeah. Like the G and the Y, the O would look really good and like big blow up, like throw up letters. Yeah. I mean, it probably, goy is probably just, yeah, one guy. It seems like he uses the same language in every single one of them. I, you know, how could the Nelp boys lead us down this road is, is one of, you know,

like in World War II, like classic, classic graffiti, you know, Kilroy was here. And in the Operation Epstein Fury, the graffiti is like, help me. I want to go. Yeah. They actually did like on the one guy who, of course, wrote on that MQ9 Reaper. He did. So he did write Operator. Operation Epstein Fury.

Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. No, but I'm loving all the calls to, like, prosecute this, this airman or sailor for treason. And it's just like, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, I pretty much start all of the recorded human history. If you're like a soldier at war, like, you're complaining because it sucks. Big surprise.

It's fucking awful. You know, but like, but, but, but like, because this war is going so badly, I, I, I, I'm really excited for the turn on the troops by MAGA people. Because I think like when it becomes like unmistakable to them that we have lost this war or when, you know, even Donald Trump has to admit it or some point, they're going to need someone to blame. And it's not going to be him. So I think it's going to be these whiny Gen Z fucking soldiers and sailors who are like too soft to like be trapped on an aircraft carrier doing nothing for a year in a war that nobody wants to fight. We'll start seeing the world's most annoying 70 year old say, bring them home and send me. I'll fucking do it.

I don't care. Oh, yeah. Brian, I know you saw this. Back when this war started and, I mean, of course, the only thing people remember are all the posts that are like, you know, they're going to learn why we don't have water in America

when we fucking kill them. But there was a great TikTok trend of guys who definitely populate both your and Chris's Facebook feeds putting on their old uniforms and being like, in case you need to send me back.

I love those guys. They look so out of shape. Like, it's just like, imagine one of these big fat guys not having like real food for like one week. I just think of it like when Harrison Ford was in the newer Star Wars movies, you know? Yeah. He's like this elderly man running around fighting his battles and stuff. Just picture all these guys out on the, like in actual act of war. and it's all these Harrison Ford's 75-year-old guys.

Well, Chris, just getting fucking killed, just getting absolutely killed. Well, Chris, I think they would do a deal similar with Harrison Ford's appearance in Blade Runner 2049, where they're like, yeah, I'll come back on the aircraft carrier, but I get to wear my clothes. I'm not trusting the movie. Yeah. The John Boyd and Ray Donovan deal where you take advantage of him not knowing if it's a movie or a show or real life. just the idea of like just street close elderly men

fighting in America's wars and Chris I love the conceit that like as you pointed out that these guys wouldn't complain if they had to place like five days like a business week of this level of filth squalor and degradation a bunch of guys with the worst backs like with just all of them at bad backs

yeah like to see how you do after you watch Kelsey Grammer is down periscope for the 15th time. Wait, what's, is that a new Kelsey Grammar thing? No, no, this is a very old Kelsey Grammar movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a comedy. It's a classic naval-based comedy. Yeah, the newest Harris and Fort, or the newest thing is him, Kelsey Grammer, being at the end credits of a movie about George Washington.

Is what, that George Washington, AI movie that came out. Oh, yeah, yeah, can wait, Kelsey Grammer's in that? Well, he has like a small role, like a, like a cameo. But then after it ends, after the credits, he's like, you need to go out and tell all your friends to see this movie. That's a little speech about how people should. That's how the movie ends is like him sitting in a room and a suit and his regular clothes talking about how to tell people to see this movie. It's very important for the 250th birthday of the United States. States of America.

Didn't Kelsey Grammer? He also played George Washington in one of my favorite movies of all time. Like, I don't agree with the politics of this movie, but you can't deny how great it is,

an American Carol. Oh, right. Chris Farley's brother plays Michael Moore. Yes. And he played sort of like, he's like, he's Michael Moore,

but he's also Scrooge. And all the ghosts of America past and future are going to like, De-libbard him. It's made by the airplane guy, right? The airplane guy that went nuts. Yeah. Not to doubt,

it's just a slight point of correction. I know the comments are going to fucking crucify us for this, Felix. Is John Voight plays George Washington. Kelsey Graham will plays George Patton in American Carol. Oh, right, right, right. John Void is George Washington is inspired. They both have wooden teeth. Yeah, yeah.

And simplest. God. I've seen that movie. I've seen that movie you're describing and I'm trying to figure out in my mind why I've seen that movie. I can't imagine why I sat down watch it, but I remember you enjoy laughing.

I feel like it's in poor taste to say that they got every part of the cow with Chris Farley's brother. But those guys, they really, they really made a lot of movies with them. The airplane guy that went crazy.

I, I would have liked to have, what was that movie that Danish guy got shot over? That Hillary blamed Benghazian on the innocent of Muslims. Yeah, the innocent of Muslim. I think they, he should be in like a remake of that. Kevin Farley. He should definitely be in that movie.

Oh, this cast for that American Carol is really something. It's got. It has, uh, Leslie Nielsen as Obama Ben Nielsen? He did not, no, no, they were exploiting for Leslie Nielsen. He was like, Leslie Nielsen was born in like 1893. Like he didn't, no, no, Leslie Nielsen is like at least a social Democrat. Like, he didn't know, he can't be a blame for this.

I don't. And he's like an old friend, too. No, we have to stop talking about this movie. Let's stop. No, Leslie. Oh, I'm sorry. I just wanted to point out, Trace Adkins plays the Angel of Death, and David Alec Greer is in it.

Dang. All right. Dad's in there. Ferris Hilton, too. Wow, what a cast. Well, moving on from the aircraft carrier, I've got two quick stories about women in politics that I'd like to run by you guys. And the first one is, Felix, maybe you can help me answer this question.

Who is Natalie Hart? Okay, so Natalie Harp, she went viral back in 2017 for like making a speech about how bad health care was. But her, like the silver lining to it was that Trump let her, like he signed some like right to try bill, which is a hilarious name for something for anything, the right to try. But basically it just, they let you take experimental evidence. And like, according to Natalie Harp, she like had Luke. leukeia and Trump let her, I don't know, drink some experimental elixir. They were like, you know, we've been looking into all these stories about these Chinese emperors who like killed themselves drinking mercury. And they just, they drank too little.

If you drink more than they did, you'll live. And so President Trump let her drink the mercury. And ever since then, she has been like a mainstay and sort of slowly working her way up towards becoming I don't know I don't want to be impolite here I don't want to use coarse language but

the chief sperm jacker in Donald Trump's entourage that is one of the reasons that Trump's ankles are swollen he is faking up to seven or eight orgasms a day to avoid being sperm jacked by Natalie Hart

I don't know if any of you who've ever had sex on an airplane gifted to you by the nation of Qatar. But it is, you get very bloated, and that's when you do come. I was not aware. When you don't come, it goes straight to your ankles. I was unaware of this woman until this week. And so basically, Georgia Senate candidate, John Osse, spilled the beans on her

because basically he made intimations in a recent stump speech that Trump is, is like, you know, losing a war on Iran. He's shitting all over our beautiful sailors and the USS Lincoln. But all he wants to do is travel with Natalie. And he seemed to be sort of spilling the beans on this much younger woman who basically, it goes everywhere

with Donald Trump. She essentially lives with him. I saw a report about him that she lived in the women's locker room at the Bedminster Golf Club for like a year because they wouldn't give her... What the f? They wouldn't give her a room. But she wanted to be close to Donald Trump and he let her live in the women's locker

room. But it says, uh, Trump, was it like the Dan, like people, like women were actually trying to use it. She's just like recording videos about how Trump led her like use a bedbed here to knock. I'm busy. She's, she's like one of those YouTubers that are like, I'm going to spend 50 hours at a Costco. I'm just spending here in a locker room. I mean, I know that women's bad, but like, are there, Ladies, are there like, how do you sleep in a women's locker?

Yeah, where's she sleeping? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe she can sleep standing up. I don't know. They have couches in women's locker rooms. It's crazy. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know what that locker room. Maybe it's like a really high-end, nice locker room that I'm not even picturing. But yeah, it seems like it would be an uncomfortable place to sleep. It would be wet as well. Yeah, very wet. That's a wet place, actually. the locker room. According to Michael Wolfe's new book on the

2024 campaign, when Trump's team relocated to his Bedminster Golf Club for the summer, staffers deliberately left Hart off the room assignments, hoping the distance would push her out. It did not. Harp reportedly reached out to the grounds crew herself and secured a maids room. Okay.

When that still felt too far, hold on a second. When that still felt too too far from Trump to respond to his calls fast enough, she moved again, this time into the women's locker room, just to stay within reach. Now this is like, a portrait of her job is like, I guess she's sort of the body woman. She, uh,

sort of, he dictates, uh, his truth social post to her. Basically like, I think she just follows him around and like wipes his ass when he shits his pants. I think she's like the full time type woman. Because I don't know if you saw that at that another clip of Trump. I'm this, this goes back to 2020, 20, 2016, but like the guys, he's, he's wearing huggies. Like he's wearing a diaper. He's wearing a big old garbage bag on

his ass. And like it just, you see him falling asleep in meetings, but like, I don't think that really captures like the smell, you know, because you know he's letting loose, like he has loose vowels probably. And she also, she has a portable printer that she travels with everywhere. And she uses it to print out like news articles and tweets that she thinks he would like to read or that would make him happy. That's nice. That's very, I love the picture of his ass in a diaper because like, you think that that is a thing people are

like, like J.D. Vance fuck the couch. I don't think he fucked the. He could have. I don't fucking know. But we know he probably didn't do that. But it's like Donald Trump is wearing diapers. There's no doubt. So that does me. Yeah. Yeah. In those crazy pictures or those crazy videos, he really is shitting in his pants. And while he's doing stuff, which is, I mean, hey, if you can sit in your own crap at that age, then I, yeah, he's gotten good at it. He's gotten good at it. Because I know like a toddler will shit in their pens and they kind of make a little face or whatever.

It's gotten really good at just like power. That is why they're called the silent generation. Hey, it's all these fucking malingering sailors on the USS Lincoln. If the commander in chief can sit in his own feces for hours at a time nodding in and out of consciousness

then surely you much younger, heartier and full of vigor and life can deal with, you know, skid for at least a year. Yeah. Loving the idea of the guy standing behind, I'm having to pretend like they don't smell shit. Oh, man, Brian.

God, I love that. You see that? He's in the Oval Office when he's like nodding out. And they're trying to be like, well, sir, here, like the tariff show, like, you know, exponential growth and blah, blah, blah. And he's just nodding out, just farting, pissing, shiting himself. Just shit pouring out of his ass.

Yeah. I, I, um, there is an, uh, infamous incident in my family that, um, I did, to defend myself, I was six years old. But, uh, we were over at, uh, uh, like a, um, a family friends place for like a dinner party, like me and my family. And the kids, their kids had a PS1 and I had never played one before and they, they let me play with it because their kids were like high school age. and I was so like enamored with Crash Bandicoot I had never played it before

that I let's just say I procrastinated anal and I just you know I was just I was just sitting there I was like I can pause the game and take a shit late

like I'm not when I go home I'm not gonna be able to play Crash Bandicoot I can just take a shit at home and then I released what I thought was gas and let's just say I had a very presidential lining to my pants. And I went to the bathroom and I was in there for like two hours trying to figure out how to get the shit out of my pants. Until my mom, you know, it was like, what the fuck?

You know, like, you like found me in there and I was like fucking crying because I'm so embarrassed and I don't get to play Crash Bandicoot. okay, like we don't have to tell like anyone what happened we'll just like no one has to know that you shit yourself from playing credit band to coot it'll be totally fine we'll just go home like no one will know about it

but then I this is a very Trump like move on my part as we were leaving I yelled out to like my entire family and the family that was the family who's I just like shit in their living room while playing PS1 I screamed at the top of my lungs. I thought it was a fart.

And that happened like every day at the White House. Back when I was like 19, I lived in this place and I was, I fancy myself a poet because I was fucking trashed all the time. And I was leaning in front of the radio. I'm 19 years old. I'm leaning in front of the radio changing a seed. and I think I farted and a fucking little turd rolled out of my pants and onto the floor in the living room floor. I was like, what the fuck? I had to act all surprised about it and sneak it out of the room.

Okay, well, if we're all telling our stories, when I was in like late elementary school, double digits for sure, there was like, or maybe early high school, but there was a, my brother's friend was famous for doing sky dump. where he would put both his legs on top of the stall, you know? So he would like be crouching, but super high up. And he would try to shit into the toilet. So it was like a big story. Like people are shitting on the bathroom floors.

Like what's going on here? We knew that it was like the sky dumper. But I tried to do it off the military. Is he currently in the U.S. Navy? That's a good skill for what the situation those people are in. This guy could dunk in grade six and he was six feet, five foot 10. It was really an incredible athlete in many ways. But yeah, I tried to recreate that off like an electrical box outside with my friends.

And then I just I just shot into my own underwear and pants that were like around my ankles. And I just remember my friends just running away from me and leaving me sitting there to deal with it. Well, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much the life of Natalie Harp. And I bring her up because, yeah, people are supposed to be. speculating that she travels everywhere with Donald Trump. You remember the other week there was that like phony threat on the president's life and they said Iran was going to kill the president and like they moved him out of Air Force One on a catering truck and left Marco and Vance on the real Air Force One to take off as decoys.

Well, Natalie Harp was in Trump with with Trump on the catering truck when they moved them to the secret Air Force one. And basically like she's also featured in Maggie Haberman's book where it says basically that like she is she is his like comfort animal or like binky or sort of like uh something that keeps him calm and happy when he's otherwise you know dived up and got his emotional so emotional support person basically but uh felix i was not aware that he saved her life by giving her a magical elixir so i suppose that makes sense why she's so obsessed with him yeah i mean any guys out there like you you know uh you're like oh i can't get a girlfriend because i'm constantly

pooping myself. I lost a civil judgment that is very bad. People are really don't like what's in there. My approval ratings are 32%. If you just give a woman an elixir, that's at least one girlfriend.

That's right. That's right. So yeah, Natalie Harpa, that's a name to watch. And you know, I was just thinking like, if Trump dies in office, she should be like, they should do a Viking funeral with him, but like Natalie Harp is like the living wife who gets burned alive on the ship. You know, I think that would be like a true testament. Because like he gave her life once.

I think if he dies, uh, it should be rescinded. I think she should have to perish with him. or be like sealed and some sort of sarcophagus with him. I know. I mean, she would have to push Malani out of the way because I imagine she'd be pretty bad-de-old. And then the other, the other, uh, news story from, uh, women in politics. Uh, what do we go? What do we all think of Nancy Mesa's new tattoos? I think it's cool to get into tattoos when you're 40s. I think if you want to get a piercing when you're in your mid 40s, it's not even that weird. Even if you wanted to get like five piercing.

Yeah, Brian has his eyebrow. He recently got his eyebrow pierced five times, by the way. That's what he's referring to. I talked him into it. He said he would like to do it. And I said, why not? Like, why don't you do it? Yeah.

How old is she? 48 she's 48 she's 48 she is 48 okay yeah I mean I don't know I guess she's she's trying to look cool I'm not sure why I'm not sure what the plan is with it I don't know maybe she's trying to like get into some online space or whatever where she feels like it's beneficial to look cool she sees these democratic socialist guys and they all have like tattoos and she's like people are really into them she's like hey graham where'd you get yours I'd love to I don't know if you guys remember the article about her that was

like political article earlier this year that was just like it was the article about her that where it was just like everyone she knows just being like yeah this woman's fucking insane and in the first like three

paragraphs of the article they mentioned she specifically mentions how she wants to get tattoos to I think the phrasing was to feel the pain Yeah, that was the line she said, it's the type of pain that I have to feel right now. Yeah, I don't, yeah, so I don't know what's going on with her.

She's, you ever see the movie Masters of Discipline? No, I haven't. It's this, well, it's based on, it's based on, like, an autobiographical story about, like, how psychotic the Citadel is. And Nancy, that was a guy going to the Citadel. She was the first woman to go to the Citadel. So, like, there's no telling what's going on in there. She is fighting a war in her mind every day and losing.

What are the tattoos of? What are her tattoos? They just look like the generic tattoos that you can get for your Grand Theft Auto online character. It looks like, yeah, it looks like she just like tightened tattoos. to do Uber Eats. It looks like she went to a tattoo parlor, flipped through their book, and just picked out six or seven

random things from like the first couple pages. I see. It's like the man cow freedom of speech tattoo that he shows off all the time. No, that's cool. No, that's cool. So you're saying it's a cool tattoo. Microphone with a heart. Of course he has a microphone

tattooed on him. Yeah. Like all those guys did. Well, yeah. He spent his career, you know, for most men, a microphone is just a tool, but he uses a fulcrum to move the earth. Yeah. No, I would say those tattoos are totally different. She has very generic looking tattoo.

This is, do you remember this trend when they would be like, this is what, you know, Disney princesses would look like, you know, if they had, like, 2014-star flag. That's what she looks like. Yeah, yeah, that is exactly. that is exactly the look she has. It's like, what if Bell from Beauty and the Beast

listen to Gangster Rap and with swag? Yeah, yeah. Tatted up A. Blinken, man, like that tatted up A. Blinken. Oh, right, right. A picture that goes around every once in a while. Moving on from Nancy Mace.

Let's talk our mafia guys here. Yeah. Let's get into the mafia guys because we've curated a selection of guys and clips. And the guy I want to begin with is probably my favorite of them. Frank Gioa Jr., also known as Frank Capri,

and I want to just give you a little background to this guy. Former New York mobster, Frank Capri, who has ties to two failed Idaho restaurants, was sentenced to five years in prison total for conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion. Capri, 54, was born Frank Gioa, Jr., and grew up in New York City's Lucchese Crime Syndicate, one of the five families that dominated organized crime in New York City for decades.

He entered the Witness Protection Program in the 90s after testifying against fellow. Moffia members and emerged as a real estate developer in Phoenix. In 2008, he was granted a licensing agreement to build and operate restaurants bearing country music star Toby Keith's name. Between 2011 and 2015, Capri would inflate financial projections to developers and in return reduce construction costs, keeping the difference for himself and his associates. One of those locations was a Toby Keith themed bar and grill at the village in Meridian in 2004. However, the village evicted Capri's business when construction was around 90% complete.

In 2015, Capri expanded his business to include building-themed restaurants based around the country band Rascal Flats. I love Toby Keith and Rascal Flack. Which is such funny. It's the Toby Keith. I love this bar. I love this bar and grill. I'm dumb to about a building-themed restaurant based around country band Rascal Flack.

It's like, is this restaurant building theme or Rascal Flats theme? And what would a building themed restaurant be? I got to tell you, when I got moved into my apartment, I hired the guy from Rascal Flats black tie moving company to deliver my stuff for me. Okay. And they were fantastic. They really treated me with. He paid so, he overpaid so much for it. It's crazy.

I don't, I didn't know it was possible to pay as much as he did for his move. This black tie. Well, what? is the Rascal Flats moving company. Can you elaborate on it? It's called like black tie moving and it like is a, it's got like a picture on the side of the truck. It's got a picture of the guy from Rascal Flats and like a velvet rope.

Because they're giving you like the velvet rope vibe. What I'm asking though is he the founder of the business or just worship him? Oh, okay. I think he's the owner of the business. It's his. Well, they're from here though. I thought it was like. They are from here.

I thought it was like a golden company type thing. Like he's like a god to them. You know. But like this mobster guy did he is, was he doing it like along with Rascal Flats? I guess that was the whole idea. Like how did he? Well, I think Rascal Flats and Toby Keith like they have like franchises. And if you like pay them, you can like franchise a Toby Keith.

I love this bar and grill. You know, this former Lucey guy set up in Arizona was doing it, but also, you know, like stealing from the construction funds and things like that. This is what these guys do. But I bring this out, I want to. I think it's great that like the little bio here, like, yeah, with his protection Lucchese family, but he does have a lot of experience in the restaurant business. And I think that will color.

Theemed restaurants. Yeah, with themed restaurants. And I think that will color these first three clips here. So Spencer, just a cue up the first clip of this is Frank Gioa Jr. talking about his favorite ingredient. The level of taste, I think. It's when the red wine vinegar hits the tomato sauce. You make that salad with red wine vinegar, right?

And when you eat that salad after the same dish that you had the pasta sauce and everything, the gravy, man, when that red wine vinegar hits the gravy in it, it takes on a whole lot of taste. Yeah, that's good. That's really good like that. You could even make a sauce all the little red wine in the sauce itself. Yeah. Takes on a whole other level of tape. All right, all right.

Okay, so just for the benefit of our listeners here, the guy you're hearing speak, that's, that's Frank. the guy talking about red wine vinegar. Frank is, I would describe, as a normal, expected level of fat guy for like Italian man. His age, he's been in the mafia. But you listen to, when they cut to his co-host, you'll hear in these clips saying, yeah. Oh, red wine vinegar. He is the fattest person I think I've ever seen.

He looks like John Panette. Yeah. God rest his soul. Yeah, it's the quick cut to the most obese man you've ever seen. the New York Yankees hat really got me there. I just like, this is like, um, if a skin walker was trying to become an Italian guy. Because it just says it's such like base level Italian guy stuff. Oh, after you, after you eat pasta, eat a tomato with vinegar on it.

Like okay. The gravy. They always say gravy. Like mob guys always have to call it gravy. That's what I always thought that was gross. Well, you know, this guy, look, if you are maybe disinclined to, you know, regard as a trustworthy figure, a former mafia turncoat, someone who was in the mafia and then betrayed the mafia, so he's like kind of a shithead two times over.

But I'm calling Cap because none of the guys featured in this video have ever eaten a salad. There is no way I believe they are putting white, red wine vinegar on a dressing or a leaf or a tomato of any kind. This is a, you do not become like the dude in the Yankees out without a fully gravy-based diet. I will watch the Martin Scorsese movie about this guy working, getting Rascal Flats and Toby D. Let me use his same. Special, see the other second clip.

You heard the expression breaking bread with somebody, right? Yeah. You're going to sit down and break bread with somebody. You knew you were going to be at that table for at least an hour. And you can tell a lot In my opinion, you could tell a lot about a person If you go out to eat with him, let me tell you something. You heard.

I just wanted to chime in and say that the top comment on this Just says incredibly low density of information in this clip. He did explain what breaking bread is. Yeah. He said, you go sit down to break bread with someone. It's going to take at least an hour. He's talking about eating the bread. That's what they're going to be.

that's where they talk about like you know how much you owe how much money they're owed or whatever he was like i thought we were just eating here i love the idea of these guys because i'm sure he does tell mob stories and stuff but it's like this guy's got a podcast because people are like interested in the mob right all these like mafia guys and then he's sitting here and he's just like little white little red wine vinegar in there on the tomato yeah so why are we listening to this guy talking about this stuff You'll tell you what. If you, if you sit down and talk with me, it's going to take me at least an hour to sit back, stand back up again.

You'll be there for an hour. No, that's what I love about these clips is that it is just him talking about eating food. Yeah. All the other mobster guys that I see, like, we were talking about mob influencers we like. You know, like Frank Kulata, who was the Frank Vincent, Frank Vincent's character in casinos based off him. He was a very early mob influencer. And he famously ran a mob museum in Las Vegas where he would take you on a tour of murders he did.

But, you know, like I, we, all levels of mob influencers, whether they are as successful as Sammy the Bull or Michael Franchese or like the loser liar guys, you see a DJ Vlad who are like, I killed 70,000 guys. Like that's, they know that at least the reason why you, would want to subscribe to them. You want to hear about the murders and crimes they did, but this guy is just like,

well, I, you know, I never work with John and Goddy, but let me tell you something about restaurants that don't have free refill. Let us entertain you. That is not a restaurant chain of respect. There's always the stuffed wheelchap. Stuffed wheelchap. Yeah.

You're serving with. Stuffed with besut. Mocerone. no it was the fontina cheese oh fontina wow finita another piece of ham his lozs was always the stuff that guy that guy is like there's a clip of like Connor O'Malley

where he's talking about the rock theory or whatever yeah it's like a yeah pipe rock theory and there's the guy who's like no wow really like that's what this guy he's not offering anything or adding anything thing, he's just like, oh, really? Oh, okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Chris, what he's talking about? You got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got to need someone like that to get the conversation started. Like when Frank says, he was a little, it was always the stuffed veal chopped.

And then he goes, oh, stuffed with what? Well, he goes, stuffed cheese, the fontina cheese, starts to live, and another kind of hand, spinach. And what I love about this clip is that Frank is, uh, of course, you know, sitting in a chair to this recording, but like, he's like, lean back with his arms behind his head, and he's, like, half asleep. Yeah, yeah, he's reminiscing

about different kinds of cheeses he's eaten in different meal-based meals. It's so funny when he says Fontina and they cut to his co-host and he's like, Fontina. This is, do you think this is, like, why he he keeps going to prison? Because, like, they will put you in, it doesn't

matter how many people you killed as a mafia guy. They will put you, they will put you, they will put you a witness protection and you will serve no time even if you've committed like 70,000 murders. So even so I present like defrauding rascal flats is like pretty low down on the list. You like you presumably could get away with immunity there. But they they probably were like, okay, we need you to testify against another, the 92 year old boss of Blue Casey family. And he just got on the stand and he's like the thing about stuff peppers is you got to cook them after you stuff. him.

Does he ever talk about crimes on his show? Or is it just all stuff like this? I'm not interested in that. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I just want to hear him remember food he's eaten. Yeah.

He talks about crime. He starts to talk about crime. He's like, I'm fucking starving. It just starts talking about a veal chopper. Yeah. This is like red wall for Italians. Yeah. All right.

The next guy I want to talk about is John Penisi. John Pinus. A little background over John Penisi. When he was 20 years old, John Penisi shot a man to death in a dispute over a girlfriend. The significance of what I did was 100% lost on me then. Panisi 51 said in a recent telephone interview.

Penisi is now trying to make sense of his previous life as a mobster and to shine light on what he says is dishonor and treachery in the mafia. He said he is so focused now on doing the right thing that he won't even drink from a juice bottle in the grocery store and stick it back on the shelf without paying the way he used to. In his earlier days, even juice from a grocery store tasted better if you didn't pay for it. You were always out to get over, he said. Reminds me of this guy. This guy grew up with. He ended up going to jail for robbing a great clip.

But like when he got. I know. It's the craziest place to rob all time. It's so cheap to get your hair. Great clips. There's so little money. Yeah, he robbed the great clips. The place where they cut your hair for like $12?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was trying to rob Kirk Cousins, who's in there like every week. You know, baby, you're getting a belt for him back. He, so he, but when he got out of jail, he came to visit me at work when I worked at the grocery store. And he was walking around the store, he'd grab a whipped cream container and then do the, the night, get the nitrous off of it and then set it on another shelf somewhere else in the store. And like you walk around the store and there's like 15 fucking spent things of whipped cream

because that's how he's getting fucked up. It just reminded me of that guy. But like at least that guy was doing it to like, you know, I don't know, cook his brain with nitrous oxide. This guy was just like, there ain't no juice like the juice you steal by just opening a fucking bottle, drinking it, putting the cap on and putting it back in a fucking, Storking store. And juice is such a funny thing for it to be. Like, that's what a baby would do.

Yeah. If they had the ability to do. Yeah. I was going to say that that's, those are like, that's like the mischief that the villains in the book, Pinocchio do. I'm just sort of imagine,

like, in the 80s, like, if you were like in, I don't know, Bensonhurst or Flatbush or, like, East New York and, like, you're just going around store to store trying to get a fucking, a bottle of apple juice that doesn't already be half drunk by this asshole. It's like, you know, back in the old days in the neighborhood,

if you went to the juice store and you got a juice that was half full, that was you were lucky. You know, like on a bad day, you'd get it. It would just be backwash in there. But that's John, that's John Penisi, the juice bandit. You're drinking the juice of a, of a made guy. Yeah, that's kind of, it's almost an honor. It's almost an honor to drink his juice.

Yeah, I really don't like backwash, but I would at least be able to become like a squire to have made man by a transitive property. There was, but no, like, Will, I mean, Will, you grew up here. Like, the juice drinking, like every seal and every beverage in Manhattan was broken until Bernie gets shot those people on the subways. Well, it's actually Giuliani. You were like, let me open your. was Giuliani really cleaned up the beverages in this city and stopped these fucking guys from lipping every bottle. I promise, full juice bottles in every grocery store immediately elected. It's very, very much like Augustine.

Like in confessions, Augustine, he's like constantly like fucking, fucking married women and like doing all this stuff. And then he's like, the worst thing I ever did though, like the lowest I ever got. before I found Jesus Christ, I stole a peach. I just went to some guys' backyard and stole a peach. And it's like, I think you did worse stuff than that. But, you know, everyone, everyone has their own morality system. It also says a former made member of New York's Lucchese family,

Panise co-hosts a podcast, the MBA and the Button Man with Tom Laveccia, a New Jersey media marketer with a master's degree in business administration. Which is slang for a mafia soldier. So, Spencer, if you pulled the first clip of John Panisi, the title of this video is The Abuse of Pete Gotti. Now, this is essentially him telling stories about these days in the mafia. And I'm just to see how long we can listen to this before we're bored to do. I also just want to say the reason why this one's funny is primarily visual. Most of these guys have pretty professional setups.

but this guy, he doesn't. Welcome sit down news. Okay, hang on a second, though. He's got, I'll say he's got the charisma to do this for sure. Oh, absolutely. My dear friend, Johnny Santari, it was a difficult one to write very emotional to impact about everything that took place with him. and I did him some justice.

One afternoon I had asked John for a lift, and I was going up to the club on 101st Avenue. And he drove me there, and I seen John Jr. He was actually standing in front of his father's club, the Bergenhunt and Fish Club. And we used to go into a side block, a club, I think it was called off. This is what Chapo sounds like before

Chris edits it, by the way. Yeah. For people who cannot see it, which is everyone except the people in this call, his background is, it's just a it is a Roman Coliseum.

It is just, it is a modern picture of a Roman Coliseum, presumably where the real movie Gladiator took place. Be and Chris watch so many guys that have like 30 followers

that do videos that are in every way better than this. Yeah, he's the video production may not be great. His sort of energy is also perhaps a little lackless to it. But like, let,

let the story play it out here because this is some fascinating stuff. story about John Gotti's standing in front of him. It belonged to John Jr.'s uncle Richie. But that day, I told John pullover and I got out. You know, I thanked him and he drove away. And John Jr. came walking over to me and he said, you know, he wanted to know who was that, who just dropped you off.

So I said, oh, I was Johnny Santori. And he, like, looked at me surprised. He said, Johnny Santori, how do you know Johnny Santori? So I like, I said, John, I know him since I'm a kid. And he said, let me tell you something. He said, he called his father the chief. He said, the chief himself thinks and calls Johnny Santori a tough guy, which didn't surprise me. You know, these guys all came from East New York, Brooklyn.

They all knew each other. And John definitely was a tough guy. But I was a little surprised to hear John. Jr. Give somebody praise with the exception of his father. Pause it. Pause it.

It goes on like that. The story is he got a car ride with a guy who's a tough guy. And John Gotti Jr. was like, my dad, the chief, thinks that guy who dropped you off in the car is a tough guy. That's the story. Imagine how good that feel. Imagine how good that must feel.

When you're like, holy shit, like the toughest fucking most badass guy says the guy who dropped you off is a tough guy. I hate to do this on air, but can we fire Spencer for breaking the rule of playing a show that's better than ours. Like, yeah, everybody is stopping movies that you don't like mention a movie

that's better than the movie that, you know, that it's in. I, this will be Spencer's last appearance. Yeah. And you're going to have to say that again as well next episode, Felix,

because everyone's tuned out. I've all gone to this guy's channel now. They're all watching Sit Down News. This is the last episode of Chopo. I just, I hope that the Sit Down News subreddit lasts longer than the Chopper. Does he do news on here? Does he actually like talking about the news?

This is like he's doing news right now. He's telling you news. Fair. Fair. Yeah, it doesn't look like he does news. Boobsy gets a new nickname. sideburn's shelf. It's so good because...

On a position. You guys are... Obviously, the listeners aren't seeing this. The thumbnails are like the click, like clickbait kind of thumbnails. Like, it's so funny to me, these old mob guys who are just like trying desperately to do this thing that teenagers are doing online. It's like Uber drivers sucked me off, but the text is like... Rob 10 Lucezre portrayals. Typing it into chat, typing it into grok or whatever to get the, the thumbnail.

It's just funny to think about them. Yeah. Like typing in, trying to get the right terms. Just going and looking at like these channels of these like teenagers and being like, all right, how can I do it a little bit more like this person who's like, you know, making videos about fucking video games or whatever. Uh, sponsor, can we see another, uh, Panezay clip? This guy's electric. I just posted the sneak peek to the cupcakes video. I see a lot of derogatory comments about him.

I just want to stay for the record. Do not be fooled by a guy's clothes. It has nothing to do with his capability. It kind of does, though. There's a lot of stuff that you can do in sweatpants that you can't do in a suit. Is that the other guy from the first podcast? Is that cupcakes? That's always scary, though, when the guy's got a nickname like that.

Yeah, that's another real. Yeah, that's another real tough guy. Totally, yeah. What is he wearing that people are like, oh, he's the, like, is he dressed up like a medieval jester? Yeah, what? Oh, the scariest guys in the mob are named Cupcake and they're dressed like medieval jesters. Because you think about how hard it would be for a guy like that to get made. I'm looking at pictures of them now.

Oh, I found it. I think I actually found the fucking clip he's in. I'll let you know what he's wearing. Okay. Oh, no, that's Mafia Roundtable. I'm wrong. That's a different show. Yeah, Joey Cupcakes, I mean, it looks like he's always wearing suits to me.

So I don't know. Or he's either wearing suits or he's wearing under armor shirts, which is like what all old Republicans are wearing. Yeah. Was there just like one time where he wore something crazy? like he like he just forgot he just showed up in like a furry costume oh that would be good he just has the tail like the furries that just do the tail and giant ball gag

yeah it's a joke hey come on I want to get to Michael Franchese who's really the king of these guys but I love him he's the best but can we see uh hold on I'm going to be you bring up Dominic Chicale here.

Because this one, he gets a little political. But before we get into that, I just want to give you a little background on him. A former Bonano Crime Family Captain who helped put mob boss Vinnie Gorgeous Basiano away for life, and who has also ratted out dozens of otherwise guy, was sentenced yesterday to 10 years in prison

for his role in two mafia rubouts. Dominic Chical, who had already served seven years behind bars, will get credit for that time. And when he gets out, he will be resettled under a new identity in the witness protection program. It says,

Shikal stood as he addressed the court wearing a white dress shirt and gray slacks and apologized to the families of the men he murdered. Randy Pizzolo and Frank Santoro, an addict from the Bronx who had allegedly plotted to kidnap Basiano's son. I am so sorry, Shikal said. There is not

a day when I do not pray for the souls of my victims. And like, if you're pleading guilty to doing two murders for hire, like 10 years in prison seems pretty light, seven of which you've already served. And like, Another thing here with a witness protection program. I mean, this is just like testament to like how the mafia is like the Italian mob in America is like completely done.

Because like these guys are in a federal witness protection program that's supposed to conceal your identity. And every day they're on YouTube being like, hi, it's me. Mafia Turnco. Come to you live in my home studio here in beautiful Arizona. Looks like we're going to have to get to Super Chat. Yeah. $5. Like, there's no one in the mafia who could even, like, win a round of Geo-guessor.

All these guys are just like, anyone, anyone under the age of 70 could find their locations and presumably kill them. I don't, yeah, I can not think of a group of people that I'd be, like, less afraid of the mafia now. It's really sad. Because the street gangs, you'll hear about that all the time, right? like younger street gang members. It's like they get found out because they posted an Instagram live or whatever. Yeah. They figured out their location.

But yet these guys are, they're just out there every day as like influencers. And they're, this guy's like put away a mob boss. Like he should be, they should be coming after this guy, right? But yeah, like,

let's hear Dominic's thoughts on the state of politics and his, his former hometown. Okay. Well, I love this video. I watched this video. I know I wasn't supposed to watch the whole video. I watched the whole video.

This guy is awesome. Mondami. Does he criticize him from the left? Yeah, he does. That's okay. Okay. He calls him Zagron. Save their money.

Made good investments to buy the properties. To maintain it, insurance, upgrades, repairs. When people don't pay to evict them, get stuck with bills, get stuck with vandalism, where they have to come out of pocket to fix the buildings. And you want to lower rents where they can. Yeah, it might be out of control. Move to the outskirts of the city. There's nice places in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens,

Staten Island, Long Island that are affordable. You don't have to live in Manhattan. Fact check, not true. Don't live there. And that's it. And for you to condemn somebody on where they're living, the type of rent they're paying, that's none of your business.

If the man made his number, He's a mayor. Wait, can you pause it? I love the idea that he thinks rent control is Zoran Mondani yelling at people for paying too much rent. That's how he controls it. Yeah. Like he kills you if your rent is too high. Wherever he wants to live.

This is America. This is America. The thing is you need to go back to your country because this is not your country. You came over here at seven years old, Mandami. man, Dami, go back to your own country. He tried it again. Destroy my country, my city. I was born and raised in New York.

Not you. Not you. All you New Yorkers, all you young kids that your parents were born in New York, you were born in New York, do not believe him. Do not believe him. Look at him. Every time he gets caught, the smile comes on. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, street smarts.

I have it. I could see through him. He's going to regret him. He's going to destroy what's left of New York City. So he's, wait, wait, wait, keep it going to go for a second. Oh, yeah. That's important that happens here.

Walk my words. Get out there. Vote for Como. Vote for Como. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, but he keeps on a mandami.

Mamda. Like, because that was the thing Cuomo did. I, I, I, I, you would assume that he is mispronouncing, mom Donny's name to disrespect him. No, because then directly after that, he says vote for Como. He just doesn't know how to. I have a guy that struggles with name pronunciations all the time.

So I feel some solidarity here with Dominic. I like what he's saying, though. He's like, don't trust Mom Donnie. Trust me, a guy who murdered a bunch of people. And turned on the people who helped me early in my life. The way he mispronounces the name. makes mandani sound like an Italian and he makes Como sound like Bulgarian or something. Yeah.

Is he going to be very, I mean, I mean, that is like, it's particularly egregious for him to mispronounce Cuomo. Like, that's the one name that you should be able to pronounce. That's a very entry-level Italian name. Spencer, just I jump ahead of the video. I want to see what he's saying here. Just like at a random point. Yeah.

Yeah. Believe me, it's good all the way through. It's when he reveals he's in Orlando. really yeah no Sammy's just a total garbage can garbage there's about six seven women he's

sexually assaulted allegedly sexually assaulted when you're getting those numbers you know if it walks like a duck looks like a duck when you get so when you get to those numbers yeah yeah like three I got two or three I got plenty of close friends

you know I'm getting jail but you're not you're not cut out for society you're just a skumpus without I just I don't have to you're not cut out for society

and so Maoist maybe he is criticizing momani from the left yeah I know he's doing a struggle session on Zagran and when he talks about Como when he's talking about Cuomo

he keeps saying like people can change. He did some stuff. People can change. And I believe he's changed. What is the bad stuff in his mind that Cuomo did? I think it is the sexual harassment stuff is what it seems like he's talking about. But yeah, there's a part in the video where he's like, I know what's good for New York. Even though I live in Orlando, I still know what's good for New York. And if mum, and then he starts reading super chats. And it's a bunch of New York guys saying like, I'm going to move down. there with you to Orlando if Mondami wins.

The guy pays $5 to say that. It's like, like, look, I, I, I would give him a million dollars if he could name the country Zoran came from when he was seven, but he just says, go back to your own country. I was born in New York. I'm born in America. What I love about these guys is like, it can't go unnoticed that like, since all of these guys got arrested or moved to Florida. in Arizona, crime has gone down precipitously in New York City.

And since Zora isn't there, like, crime is like, it's not, like, it's a major American city. There's still crime, but it is at historically low levels. After all of these street smart, real New York guys got like sent to federal prison or Orlando. Yeah, like, during the heyday of the mafia, like pre-RICO, pre-RICO, like, John, them actually getting John Gotti, those were like the bad old days. Like when the mafia was in power, like anyone who got made was like King Vaughan. Like Roy DeMaio killed like a hundred fucking people.

These guys, these are the like, they're like very diminished now. I think I could be, I'm not even in the mafia. I think if I testified against them, I could just not move and nothing would happen to me. But when they were, when they were running the streets, yeah, the murder rate was, you had a one and two chance of being murdered.

That's a New Yorker. All right. Let's go to the real godfather. The real, the boss of all mob influencer bosses, Michael Francesé. Now, Spencer, because you pick up the very important one. This is from, this is his YouTube short. Did the mafia hate gays? Now, now, important context.

the listener here. This clip will begin with Franchise watching a clip from the movie Legend starring Tom Hardy who portrays a famous set of British gangster twin brothers, the craze. This will be Tom Hardy in character

talking to Chaz Palmetry. Here we go. You come to Philadelphia anytime. You see what you want. Any size, any shape. Right. We'll get it for you. A nice Italian girl. A little spaghetti and meat bowls. I prefer boys. I didn't catch that. I say I prefer boys.

Italians. Actually, sometimes Greek, but I am not prejudiced. Let me tell you this, you know, and I don't want to be offensive to anybody, but the truth of the matter is, in my former life, Mafia, Cozanostra, there were no gay people.

You know, we didn't accept that back then. I don't know if this was a real scene or not. I think it might have been fabricated just, you know, to make the movie. I don't know that a guy would have reacted too kindly to what he was being told. would have turned them off in a big way, should have turned them off in a big way. Now, would he have not done business with him? No, I don't think so. You know, unfortunately back then, a lot of

mob guys ran some gay bars because of the money. Put aside. Because of the money. It's all about money. Unfortunately, unfortunately, Bob guys ran gay bars. That's the worst thing they did. Yeah, like moving tons of heroin into inner city in America in the 70s, don't regret that so much, but they own a couple like leather bars in the lower east side and then there was like Michael Francis has a problem with that

yeah there's a couple things I did like in the clip featuring Chaz Pumontory and Tom Hardy Chas Pomerantary is offering one of the Cray brothers access to like any girl he wants like any young Italian girl in our neighborhood will just give her to you and then

Cray's because you know it is England they're a little bit more accepting of you know buggery and buggering young lads Felix, you remember that great line from a layer cake in the very beginning with like I said, fucking women is for puffs, fucking female.

Crazy Larry. Yeah. One of my favorite moments from British politics is Michael Spanish last name, a guy, one of the biggest upsets in parliamentary history. He lost it some by-election during the Blair years. But he famously, he was the Secretary

of Defense for the UK, and he famously on one of their talk shows, they're asking him about gay people in the military. And he said, well, like, that's not really a problem

because, like, everyone is gay in college, but then you grow out of it. Well, the mafia... This is in 1996. The mafia does not

count into that. They do not like gay people. Okay, that's what established. Now, let's go to the next important franchisee clip here. Did the mafia,

okay, we established the mafia does hate gay people. But do they hate the police? You know, people say to me all the time, you know, Michael,

you guys must have the police and, you know, what do you think about this defunding the police? I said, that's the most ridiculous idea that I've ever heard. I said, you've got to have law and order. You know, we didn't disrespect the police. We used to tell the FBI and the cops, listen, we understand you're on one side, we're on the other. We got it. You have a job to do your job. Do your job better than we do ours and we go down, we go down. Just don't frame us and don't harass our family. Don't you dare frame us. We were never disrespectful to them. We were never disrespectful to them.

don't frame it. Don't frame us. Listen, we'll be cool as long as you don't frame us. Yeah, I do love this is such old school mobster mentality. I'm like, yeah, you got your job, we got ours. I think what he means is that like there was a lot of crooked cops as well.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was like, we always respected the cops. And by respecting the cops, he means like the ones who would be on the take from us. Because, you know, you could do business with them. But I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, I love, someone in his role in life saying

defund the police, that's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. You've got to have law and order. It's like, really? You've led it entire life based on flouting the laws of civilized society for fun and profit. So like to come around now and say, like, and here's another thing, Michael, you think the cops and FBI agents who like put you and all of your

compatriots in prison, I got to do, they didn't respect you. They fucking hated you. Because of all the murders and extortions and killings you did. Just for people who aren't familiar with Michael Franchise, he is probably the most famous mob turncoat influencer now, I would say. So his whole thing in this clip, he's wearing one of the gaudiest Jesus pieces I've ever seen. His whole thing is that he ran this very lucrative gas scan.

his dad was in the mafia he was a like capo regime he was in the mafia for like most of his adult life but he became a born again Christian after he became a turncoat and his whole thing is that he's like you know he saw the light

he doesn't he he doesn't he's done with that way of life but every time like it's so obvious that he misses being in the mafia and like does not he feels no regret or contrition for anything he did He very clearly thinks that not only would like did he not need to be redeemed,

but that like the world run by the mafia is a better, safer place. I just like the thing about the cops too being on the payroll. This is one of my favorite tidbits about Goodfellas. There are two guys who have a cameo in Goodfellas who, they were two detectives who were on the Lucchase family. payroll in real life. Oh, is that the witness protection scene? Yes, yes, it's those guys. The guy who, like, when they're telling Karen and Henry about, like,

what being in witness protection is like the guy giving them that line is, like, the real FBI agent who did that with the actual Henry Hill. No, I was talking about the guys who were two NYPD detectives who committed several contract murders for the Luke Gasey. Oh, oh. Went to prison several, I think a few years after Goodfellas. Like, that's what he, you're on one side, we're on the other.

That's what he means. Yeah, and I think it's more like defund the police is bad because then everybody will be able to do crime. And whereas in this situation where we have all of these cops on the payroll, we are the only ones that are able to do these particular crimes, you know? Yeah, if cops are, yeah, if cops are making minimum wage, then everyone can pay them for murders. It will be too cheap. You know, but I, like, as nonsensical it is, like, there is a certain, I don't know, I'm going to, I'm going to just sort of project my own philosophical, you know, just intimations onto Michael Franchese here. Because, like, yes, it does seem contradictory that a guy who lived his life doing the worst crimes imaginable would be an advocate for, you know, good law and order and law enforcement. and then the role of the police and society.

But part of me thinks that maybe what Michael is really saying here is that crime and the law both have to like, they have to exist at the same time for either one to mean anything, right? Especially like, what he's saying is that in a free society, right? Like there has to be law. But the price of living in a free society as a free independent citizen, a sovereign, you know, someone with liberty, is that a certain amount of crime is sort of the,

price you pay for that. Because like, you know, places with no crime, that would be like, you know, some horrible totalitarian nightmare. You know, like what China is probably like now. You know, nobody can do crime in China because they're all under surveillance and, you know, they don't have freedom, you know? So like, we need like a certain amount of crime and disorder to make sure that we still live in a free society. They need to write crime into the Constitution. trying to get an amendment I agree with that I agree with that you know I'm a big believer in

life means nothing without friction I like as much as we make fun of the mafia I do think like they should be brought back like I now they're not very cool but when they actually like did have tons of cops and FBI agents on their payroll and they killed the president

I don't like that they did that but you know, it was pretty cool. Now, I don't know. I've always said that we should give them like a 10-year grace period to rebuild where Rico is in a thing. I have a perfect, perfect idea along these lines. I think in exchange for making gambling illegal again in America, which we should, we should allow the mob to come back and run books, you know, run a sports book again.

You know, that way like the D-Gens can still get their hit and still ruin their lives. and get their legs broke or whatever. But for the most part, normal people will be shielded from degenerate gambling. Yeah, there's real consequences for gambling. They need to bring back real consequences for gambling. I agree with that. Well, I think that's a great idea because, like, that is the one thing. Everything else they talk about where they're like, oh, when we ran things, it was safer.

Gambling is the one thing where it was less of a societal problem when they were in charge of it. Yeah, definitely. Spencer, can we get the. the clip, I just say, it's not label, but the one where French Jaze talks about how he's annoyed by people ordering things on Amazon. It's another good one. I like that. This drives me.

To get off your rear end, get on your bike, those motorbikes I got now. Go down to the store and buy it and bring it home. You could do that. Save yourself $30, $40, $50, sometimes even more. This one, stood out. They lure you into it, you know. I'm going on to this would give you one little different change or something. They purposely make a different change every year and you think you got to have it.

Oh, I got to have this. Now you got the overpriced coffee and you got the food delivery subscriptions. You're into $500 a month already. How the heck do they afford it? The dad, they can't. Well, why are they doing it? Well, you know, they go on social media and they don't look right and a lot of people are looking at them. Does that put food on your table?

It's ridiculous. Mama Luke, that's what you are because you've been warned. You know it's no good. If you're in it, you're going to be a Mameluke. Don't do it. If you're in it, you're going to be a Mabaluk. Like what Saladin was? But your point about how Franchise is like,

theoretically he's like, oh, I found Christ now. I'm good. I've repented. But like in this clip where he's talking about, you know, that's $500 a month that they're into DoorDash for. You can tell like palpably how much he wishes the current generation just owed him money. It's just fine. Yeah.

Like a lifestyle beyond their means. He's like, he's like, oh, people can go on DoorDash. Is that putting food on your table? And it's like, well, yeah, literally it is. But like, I think he's mad that Gen Z is like wasting all this money on iPhones and Amazon instead of going into like a lifetime of debt slavery to him personally. Yeah. Yeah.

He's like, he's not credit card companies, you know? Like, it's unethical what they're doing. Yeah, and the fact that you, like, can't force a ghost kitchen to pay your protection money. Yeah, exactly. It's too, it's not lucrative enough to extort individual grubhub drivers. All right. Any one of these last clips randomly that you want to, any one that you like to share? Someone asked him about whether or not the mob assassinated a certain celebrity.

And I don't know. I don't know if this is a known. theory, but I personally, maybe I'm too young, I was kind of floored by the celebrity they ended up choosing. Oh no, I, this is a, well, this is a very generational thing. I was just,

before we play this, Spencer, do you have the one of my favorite franchisee clips, the one where him and Sammy the bull are arguing over who the worst person is? Oh yeah, there's a big debate, I think, on Vlad TV. Like between them. David. It's on Patrick David. It's a

value attainment. Valutainment. Let's watch the assassination one and then the greatest debate of all time. Dad, did the mob really take out Marilyn Monroe? I would have to say we had something to do with it because if you look at the the issues surrounding her death, you know, allegedly she committed suicide. They found pills all over her bed. But when they did the autopsy, there was no presence of the pills in her system.

And I happened to know for a fact that a mob guy came and visited her that night just before she passed away. So what's the mob involved? Kennedy involved, all that stuff. I think it's a good bet. Thanks, Dad. Dad, did you kill this, this lovely woman? Probably.

Yeah. The YouTube plaques behind the wall. Oh, yeah, he's got the YouTube plaques as well. This is my friend says he's the goat because he has the YouTube view the viewing plaques. Yeah. All right, let's go to the debate. Before we go to the debate, just some contextual stuff for people who, think it is very random

and out of place that the mob would have killed Marilyn Monroe. Allegedly Marilyn Monroe was a mistress of both Chicago boss, Sam G and Kana and JFK. And some people speculate

that is the reason for her death. But they did not just kill her because they were like they were like, oh, Betty Davis is better. Let me let me tell you, this, let me make this very clear. I didn't betray you. I had no intent to betray you. I still

don't even understand what you're so upset about. But whatever you got upset and what I did afterwards, to not make you upset for whatever reason you had, I took that little 10 second spot out of the video. That's number one. Number two, when it comes to the witness protection program, I'm sorry, Sammy. I have my thoughts on it. I've been to trial five times. I saw my father go to trial four times I've seen guys lie and manipulate that program to stay out of prison. I'm not accusing you or anybody else. I'm accusing the people that I witnessed, that I saw it happen, and I'll take that to my grave. A lot of guys use the program to manipulate the government. It's easy to do. They come up with bullshit stories to put somebody in jail that has a bigger name than that. And that happens all the time,

and you're smart enough on the street to know that that's the truth. And that's what I said. As far as John Gotti with his Wittsek Mafia, all I said was he's coming out with a show. It's called Whitsack Mafia. That's it. You didn't say that. Yes, I did. No, you didn't. Let me quote what you said. Let me finish. Let me respond to you. The video is up there. Anybody

can see it. The only part that was edited was the 10 seconds that I had about you. And all I said was Sammy was in the program. I didn't say anything else about it. So I didn't betray you, nor that I didn't. Let me explain. I got your point. Let me explain. Now, what you You got to let me finish.

I let you finish. Finish. Finish. Pause it. Pause it. Pause it. Pause it. Okay.

This is Sammy the Bullogravano talking to Michael Franchise. And what I love about this is like between the two of them, they probably have like dozens and dozens of murders. Like God knows how many people they've killed. They're going to argue about it later in this clip. But what I love about this is no matter who you are or like what your background is, once you get into YouTube content and.

streaming, you turn into this kind of person who's like, let me finish. Let me finish. You're doing like a 40 minute video about the 10 seconds that you took out of a clip because you didn't want to get someone mad. They're mad at you. You got to come on someone else's podcast and watch the beep to them. Like this is just what streaming does to everyone. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so, I love that he said like mentioning him is betraying him. These are like they are made for streaming. Like we're making fun of the fact that these are murderers who are like involved with this very silly profession of content creation. But like honestly, the mafia with its like incredibly overdramatic self serious oaths and like, you know, men of honor shit. They are made for this stuff. It's like like all Al Capone, all those got the purple gang, they all would have been like David Dobrick and shit.

This is the exact perfect line of work for them. I've been watching this young man, Mr. B. He's got a lot to say. He looks at Sammy the Bull. Sammy the Bulls set looks so much like the club random. I think Bill Maher's renting it out. It's crazy how much it's like chair and everything. That's exactly the little neon lights.

Yeah, he's got the same chair. Richard Dreyfuss is passing out. That funny neon light that he brought, he when he interviewed Billy Joel, he interviewed him at his house and he brought the neon light and put it behind. Oh, man. Brian, I love that clip of him telling Billy Joel about his one idea for a song. Oh, my God.

And then the song is called, they make you lie. And the song is about a couple in an age gap relationship who feels you judge by the world. And the chorus is like, the world, the world makes us lie. And he's like, and then Billy Joel just sitting there with a cigar listening to Bill Mark, tell him about this. And he goes, yeah. Oh, that sounds pretty good. All right. You know, he pitched a documentary to Jeff Dunham.

We watched on the stream one day where he's like, you should do a documentary where you do the same hour in Israel and in Saudi Arabia and then show that the people in the audience, no matter who, are laughing as hard as they can at it to prove peace. But then he gets a real good joke in. And he goes, like, I can think of a place where you could do it. The straight of whoremoos. He said that I could get a video onager for you,

but they're busy right now over at the straight of hormoos. It was, the straight of hormoos. He is the greatest. We've talked about it before. My favorite episode of Club Random is the Bellaforn one. Where he just, he is like he, it really looks like a cartoon from Der Sturmer.

the entire hour. It's one of the greatest episodes of all time. The Hocatua one's good. And Hock 2 is really hard. Brian, I love him the Hock 2o video. He's like, so where you're from,

there's probably a lot of opiate addiction, right? And she's like, really? He's like, how many people do you know who are addicted to opiates? And she's like, no one?

Yeah. Yeah, and there's the really disturbing one where he has the two kids on it. Yeah, the two kids episode. get them all these weird questions. Two literal children on is a very bizarre episode. The Burke Kreischer one I watched recently for another podcast and that one's,

I mean, they're all pretty good. He just gets so drunk and so fucking stoned on them that by the end of it, it's just, yeah, stuff like that where he's like, Hey, Billy, I got an idea for a song.

Yeah. That's why the, the, um, Richard Dreyfus one is good because it's the only one where they guest like gets on his level. like he gets more fucked up. Yeah.

Yeah, because I did just, because I didn't watch the episode, but apparently he had Tommy Lee on recently. And he kept saying to Tommy Lee, you ought to start drinking again. You're a rock and roared back. Come on, man. I don't think,

I don't think someone who is in Motley crew. It's like, if he's worked his life out at this point. I think he's drank and done enough drugs for one life. Yeah. He's an old man now. Like, I mean, he's been a rock star guy. Like, oh, Tommy, it'd be a lot cooler if you got back. on drugs and booze again. So he says, he said if you quit, quit drinking, that's not rock and roll.

You know, you're out there. You're doing a thing. You should drink. He's an elderly man. What about his family feels about that? I know. He just wants the guy across from him to join. Yeah, it's the same as anybody who's like all fucked up in the garage or whatever.

And he's like, you're not drinking anymore, man? Come on. Have a couple with me. Like, it's that same sort of idea. Think about if you're your dad. who's been sober for like 20 years, he just, in the course of one week,

like just wraps himself around a fucking telephone pole because Bill Ma was like, oh, it'd be a lot cooler if you drink. Yeah. Because Bill Maher, the guy that knows what rock and roll is.

Yeah. He's like, you'd be more rock and roll if you had some beers, okay? He's, man, he is the greatest. Do you think,

I hope that Michael French Chos and Bill Mar do some content together for. Yeah. They're both like 87 year old men. So there's not that much time left. They could do a whole episode on how the Muslims are taking over the West. Yeah.

He would have Sammy the Bull on. I think he'd have Sammy the Bull on for sure. Yeah. Because he's like the most famous. Yeah. I think Bill Maher would have him on. And maybe Michael Francis is he's the goat though. Like he's the most talented at any of these guys.

Yeah. We're really, we're really holding our. breath for David Drayman from disturbed. Like that's our big hope. That's the big one. David Drayman is, I like, again, we should gut this mention. He's just like too like good of an advocate for Zionism.

So I'm afraid to bring him up. Like he's bringing too many people over to the cause because he's, his arguments are too good. He's too charismatic. I was so, I can't tell you how mad I was. That he was on Billy Corgan's podcast. And I was like, oh my God. David Drayman and Billy Corrigan are going to be having a conversation.

Yeah. And my friend Pat Finnerdy sent me a clip of it. And it was just the very first few seconds where David, Billy Corgan's like, David Drayman, you're a very smart man. And then David Drayman says, so are you, Billy.

And then they get into it. That's my type of podcast. Well, yeah, we wanted to listen to it. Yeah, unfortunately it, um,

it, it was full hour and a half about him, Israel and Palestine. It was really tough to listen to. Yeah. Because they're two of the dumbest guys in the fucking world who both think they're geniuses. So that was a real bummer to us.

We really wanted to watch the whole podcast. Yeah, we watch him explaining his, we watch clips of him explaining the lyrics to his like music. And it's some of the funniest shit you'll ever hear. Yeah. The music is dumb. He's too dumb to even understand what he meant by it.

It's really fantastic. One of my favorite things about David, David Drayman is that he, he disturbed has their own, like, Wikipedia, where they do explain the meanings by their songs called Disturbopedia. Yeah. The other good, yeah, the good Drayman thing is for some reason, a record label for his side project had him go on YouTube and explain each song on the album and everyone, dumber than the last. Yeah. It's not for disturbed songs. Yeah, this one is for his whatever the side project is called. I also love, like, he calls himself a triple major, but he has a bachelor's degree.

And I think it's the funniest thing in the world. And like always trying to figure out what three majors he says he had. Reading, writing, arithmetic. That can't be anything. Nobody's, how would you be a triple major? I've never heard of anyone being a triple major in college. Yeah. Yeah.

I went to school for four years. I learned about three different things. You know what, guys? Disturbed library sciences. The disturbed decimal system. You know what? I'm going to call it audible here. As long as you're talking about music,

Spencer, to take us out, could you get up on YouTube? Could you get up any of the songs or the single from Pat McAfee's album, Diary of a Polarizing Finger? Oh, I have been waiting. I want Brian and Chris to, I don't really, this is my first time listening.

I've not listened to it either. I haven't a polarizing figure and I think you guys are the perfect audience for this. It really has one of the best titles of Alba. Diary of a polarizing figure. Are these all, are they AI songs? Is that? Yeah, I mean, come on. Let's see.

I don't think they are. I don't think they are. Like, it's, there's too much his voice is too, like, authentically. He makes the mistakes of a guy who thinks he can sing. And if it was AI, it would be like smoother. Okay. Which, uh, which song? Which, which, which, everyone sounds promising.

Hitball and a bookshot sounds exciting. Yeah, let's see that one. That is. Rest in peace to the greatest doubt of all time. Fatherer. Oh. Slow motion walk on the stage. Smoking coffee, no cranes.

For the feed, see some tweets or some crazy air scenes. some money with our powerball dreams because when bills start stacking we all feel the heat we all hit the same folks mostly lame bros all the ink care and see go back where they came from cause we live in baby we gotta get it daily wish me to spark up and light up all the shady yeah Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Got some kid and little shoulders and some folk. Going over. Oh, my God.

It's like bad. It's worse jelly roll. It's like jelly roll, but bat. Way more. You can tell he's heavily influenced by jelly roll. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose, let's hear another one.

That one was pretty good, though. Blue color symphony sounds great. Yeah. That one. Ooh. This is a blue color. guy too. Didn't they pay him all the money so they had to fire everyone else from the SBN?

Yeah. They turned up. Blue caught a symphony. Like, pops long haul working moms preaching and a pierphony. This is the best song I've ever heard. nights at poker gang, small stack grind, dream so big change, the word on my mind.

Earned every penny and appreciate the pay. Was check to check. Now I'm close to walking away. They say the good guy young and I'm scared I'm great. So I cherish sheep's bread. Every God best baby. Ford truck. No matter what they say.

Yeah, we ride on this side. You know that there's all the comments are, I can't just imagine reading the comments all those like that like meme format or whatever it's just like my dad's like is in a coma or whatever and he finally woke up to turn this off

is he just getting like I remember when he initially posted I read some of the comments and it was a lot of people making fun of them what's the reception been like do we know? Music I can kiss my sister to

one commenter says I have seen a lot of America B influencers. There was a really gross woman, or not gross woman, a really gross video of a woman eating wings, just slathering them in ranch while listening to this album in the background.

It's really big among, like, yeah, the Trump America B people who like get surgery to look like Brianna chicken fry, but aren't Brianna chicken fry. Oh, because he, he like a lot he recently like got the photo taken with trump and stuff and he's really been so i guess he's like he's like one of the chris like pat he's not he's not a political guy you got i get it he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's like he's just he loves america and like

when the president says hey you want to come hang out with me you say yes you know that's not political and like you know like and also like don't judge him because like he's just he's just he's just he's just a guy that likes talking sports. So like, he's a blue collar guy. He's a blue collar guy. He's got a pit bull and a mugshot. He just likes,

but for some reason he's a polarizing figure. And I think that's because people incorrectly read into some sort of political, you know, political point of view that, you know, I don't think should be associated with Pat McAvade. Yeah.

There are no good comments on the video I'm looking at right now is, there's like, I've seen like one woman defending him for, uh, rich as shit. is the song. And, uh,

yeah, all of them are bad. Every comment is like, this sounds like shit. I'm like, it's very good. Oh, wait,

there is one from Kimberly 43. She said, love it, Pat. Keep it up. Okay, okay. So that's,

he's a polarizing figure. That's polarizing. Yeah. Matthew Smith says, if you need a drummer, look me up. Sorry, buddy.

Thanks, Matthew Smith. You have such an uncommon name. I'll be sure to type that That's actually the guy from House of the Dragon. Yeah, yeah. That's what David Targaryen listens to. That British actor, yeah.

David Targaryen is, he can relate to, this is. He is another polarizing figure. He's a very polarizing figure. Diary of Rose. Kill my wife. Killed, killed my wife. She, of horse fell on her, walked away, said, can I bring my dragon over here? I got a dragon and a mugshot.

Made fun of my nephew an hour after he died. Well, that was... Married my niece. Want to bring peace to the realm. Diary of a rogue prince. All right. Brian and Chris, let's leave it there for today. Thanks for hanging out with us.

Thanks for talking to mob. Thanks for having us. Thanks for listening to some awesome tunes with us. Always enjoy to hang out with you guys. And everyone, please check out. Guys. Yeah. Links in the show description.

And reminder once again, chunks available video on demand. Link in the show description. And Chris, I believe is our show sold out at this point? As of today, the show in November in New York City is sold out. Too late, suckers. You're going to miss out if you hadn't bought tickets already. So that's that. Brian, Chris, thanks once again.

Until next time, everybody. Bye-bye. Thank you.