Chapo Trap House - 458 - Too Fail To Fail (9/28/20)

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

We talk Trump’s tax returns and Felix reveals the nature of Chapo corporate structure. We also do some debate preview and discuss Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett. Not a lot of good news in this one, but join us tomorrow to live stream the 1st presidential debate so we can at least laugh together at two cranky old men calling each other liars for 2 hours. Debate Stream will start Tues. 9/29 a little after 8p.m. e.s.t. on twitch.tv/chapotraphouse

Listen, it's ridiculous, my father's paid tens of millions of taxes. If only they spent as much time looking for maybe, I don't know, Hunter Biden's tax returns and the Biden crime family issues, where Hunter is taking money from a known associate of Vladimir Putin, $3.5 million, and no one has any interest. Brian, imagine I did that. Imagine the story it would be. So the Kremlin, direct ties to Vladimir Putin, has influence over Hunter Biden? You don't think that's the collusion that they were worried about with Donald Trump?

You don't think it's right there with the Biden family, and we don't even have to get into Ukraine? And a billion five from China, that's the deal for you. Like I said, I was planning to do today about the Komi rule, but the sickos at Showtime won't put their premium content on a streaming service that's not their app, even though I subscribed to Showtime through Prime, but it'll make more sense because both nights of the Komi rule will be presumably able to watch by then, so we can get the whole picture of it.

I always thought it made more sense to watch the whole thing, so I think it'll work out for the best. Are these just the first two episodes of a mini-series or is there only two episodes overall? It's not a mini-series, it's going to be an ongoing series forever. You're going to see everyone in the FBI universe. There's going to be a spin-off, there's going to be a Bruce and Nellie Orr spin-off. Those are fan-favorite characters.

Nellie Orr is a real cut-off, she's a real sex-pot. She's sort of the chandler of the gang. I think they're going to get Yasmin Bleeth to play Noor Orr. Yeah, Bruce Orr will be played by Jason Momoa. You know, I feel sympathetic for the people that made this show because it's like, it's hard to, I mean, we'll obviously talk about it more later in the week, but it's hard to make this because no one looks like 90% of the people involved in this. It's like no one in the world looks like Donald Trump.

He's the only guy. No. The only guy who kind of does is Melania's dad, weirdly enough, but no actor looks like him. Interesting. Just the screencap that Virgil shared in the chat last night, whoever they got to play Obama was probably a 27-year-old Obama. I'm sorry about that.

They're two sickos buzzing my ringer. I don't know who these guys are, but they look like K-pop guys. I don't know these people. Well, it's probably the same people that are taking photographs with you and stalking you. Yeah, it's called gangstalking, and it looks like you've been targeted. See, there they go again. They're buzzing again.

I don't know what they want. I don't have any K-pop for them. Have you heard the good news about BTS? This isn't where 17 lives. Not even one of the 17 live here. I don't know. Anyway, I did my job, and I watched the first episode, and it ended on election night. So it seemed to me that they were going to squeeze out six more episodes from this, and

it would keep going, because a lot more shit happens to the guy after election night. Yeah, it'll be on tonight's episode. I don't see how they wrap it up in like 90 more minutes. I mean, he's just going to get fired, right? Yeah. That's what happens. He gets fired. And then he goes to pensively walk on a beach and think about rivaling the board.

It's like the end of equilibrium, when they take him in and do the test to see if he has emotions, and then he busts out, does gun caught on everyone. I think the real resolution to the Comey role will be in about a month's time when we vote for his pretender out of office. That'll be the season finale. Wait, what has Comey done since getting fired? Well, he wrote a book. But he hasn't.

But he hasn't had. But he hasn't had like a job. No, he actually got started at T.C.B.Y. recently, but they cut his hours because of COVID. He finally. Yeah. He finally got a job. Actually, yeah, that makes sense, because unless it, unless it focuses on the other people who continue to work there, or Robert Mueller or something like that, like it just switches

to be about the Mueller report, then you really, there's really nothing else to say about this guy. He got shit banned, and that's it. I'm looking at his Wikipedia page, and it says post government life. Ghost? Yeah. Now, that's what I call a promotion. You know, like none of this shit's honest, none of this shit they tell us as kids about

working hard is true. It's just because he's friends with Casper that he got into the ghost industry. It's fucking bullshit. All it is is a list of a couple of op-eds he wrote. So he has been doing jack shit. Episode two is just him blogging. Yes. He's just blogging his ass off.

He's taken after another great FBI agent, Fox Mulder, and spent his time sleeping on a couch and watching pornography. I have an idea for another money-making venture for you guys, if you're interested. Hell yeah. Always. There's the liberal version of this, right, and it's this. And we're obviously going to talk about it a lot later this week, but what about the version for people who like every day for four years have been like, oh, so Glenn Simpson

didn't know Thomas Dors, huh? How about that? You bitch, Nellie Orr, and we should make the version that's like, it's for people who are not quite insane enough for QAnon, but insane enough to waste their time doing this. And it's just like, all your guys, Glenn Simpson, Nellie Orr, Bruce Orr, Lisa Page, Peter Stork, all of them, and they're like, all right, so we're going to lie about if we haven't met Glenn Simpson, right? We're going to frame the most innocent president of all time, time to commence Obamagate.

And that's six episodes of that. And boom, $10 million opportunity, and it's going to be called Obamagate. Apparently, there's some independent prosecutor who's looking into Obamagate, who, Q, people were convinced was going to, right before the election, reveal a report that indicted Obama and everybody else in the deep state for trying to prevent Trump from being president. And they just announced that there's not going to be a report before the election. Well, I mean, shit, it's got to be formatted correctly. Times New Roman, double space.

Well, they have leaked their key piece of evidence, a tape recording from August 2016 of Barack Obama saying, let's do Obamagate. It's time for Obamagate. Are you feeling what Obama's cooking? It's so Obamagate. Did you see, though, that all the Q people are going insane because the rock endorsed Joe Biden? And I think he's one of the few celebrities that has still been born as Dwayne Johnson

and lived his life as an adult, filming movies and TV shows and being a wrestler who hasn't been replaced by a clone that looks identical to him or a hologram of some sort. But now he is. Now, he's been executed. Yeah, no. He's a clone. Yeah, he's a clone. He's a clone now.

He's been executed. But yet, the good guys allow his clone to go out there and endorse the pedophile baby. I know, right? It seems so fucked up to me that they've replaced every major politician and celebrity with a clone of themselves because, obviously, the real ones have already been indicted, tried, and executed by a military tribunal in Guantanamo Bay. But it's just like the clones they've been replaced with still act and talk and behave in the same way that the originals did.

So I don't get what the point is. What's the point here? Well, I mean, I guess the Ellen DeGeneres has been tried, executed, and convicted. But when she came back for the new season of her show, she was like, hey, I'm sorry, I was a bitch to everyone. So I mean, that's an example of the clone has been a reformed version of the original. So there's some improvement there. Seeing the celebrity tabloids in the supermarket checkout aisle lately, like Star magazine

and all that stuff, all the headlines are just, he's a clone now. Tom Hanks and Hologram have that is that is the reason that they're nominating Barrett is she has more originalist views on clone law. Most clone law was written by activists who say that the clone is a person it was a clone of and that they can't be blamed for all the child sacrifice rituals that the original person did. But Amy Barrett actually thinks that the clone and the original can be charged with the same crime.

So you can't wait for her to finally overturn the precedent on whether having sex with your clone is gay. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely not. Amy Kobe Bryant understands that it is it is morally and legally the exact same thing is jacking off. Yeah.

No, it's no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's an originalist view. It's clear. Yeah, I'm trying to have a fucking tree with my clone. They've technically never had sex, but they're cloned to be so they're pretty fucking good at sex. I mean, this I just I love the Q and on cosmology about like how every famous person has been executed, but who you're seeing on TV is a perfect clone of them that seamlessly like taken over their entire life and is continues to do their job essentially and may not even

be aware that they are a clone. This is like a this is like a Philip K Dick short story. It's like the protagonist is someone who's a clone of an original person, but isn't aware that they are the clone of a famous person who's been executed for terrible crimes. But they're still carrying on this this rich person's life and they're not aware of it. But then they end up doing all the same crimes that got the original celebrity executed in the first place. And they're sort of like a, you know, it's just it's a very sort of pink light idea that

I'm very much like, I mean, it's essentially reality for like a quarter of the population. I want to live there. It sounds like it's a lot more fun than fucking watching Ridley Scott put out some more robot bullshit. I think it's also, you know, I guess it's it's in the news, but it's also not fun for the most part. I guess the big story this week is the New York Times big dump about Trump's taxes. You know, we finally got them.

And I still don't understand how taxes work. So I'm hoping one of you guys could explain them to me. I have Felix do my and let's just say you are just crushing the deductibles in Malta. We still haven't gotten to paying your American taxes yet, but you're now a multi-citizen. I pay taxes in every single country in all 173 countries because I'm a pay I leave a tip on my taxes citizen. I kept the government 20% of the amount I already owed. That's for good service.

But yeah, I mean, I just I figure, you know, apparently he hasn't paid any income tax in like, you know, 10 or 20 years or something like that. And I don't know. I mean, we're building errors too. So, you know, Felix does all of our taxes. He is our tax expert. I mean, what are you doing to make sure that we're also we're both not paying any income tax, have hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, but simultaneously have access to

a hundred million dollars like line of credit at like a like Deutsche Bank or something like that. So as you guys know, I pursued an aggressive debt rich spending style for us, right? So actually, just this last year, I took out $37 billion in loans from Deutsche Bank. Unfortunately, the original loan officer committed suicide by falling into his bathtub that was filled with acid and also being shot in the stomach suicidal style. I had previously sent him the logic song about not killing yourself, but it unfortunately didn't work.

You know, I did the best I could wiping, washing my hands of that situation. Our $20 billion of those loans are due next year. But that's not that's not a problem, though, because I've also borrowed $100 billion from the Katari Royal family. We briefly owned the Mona Lisa on paper. I shortsold it against the possibility of the Louvre being bombed by Eta, a reformed Eta. And if this happens in the next month, which like who's to say, if it didn't happen last

11 months, but we have the it's like one to 12 odds, which is pretty good. We start to make $150 billion. So that's $11 billion left over. But because we technically have $150 billion of losses and loans and liabilities, we the government actually gave us $751 this year. Hell yes. Yeah. The other thing, though, is it is legal for us to be killed by sword in Qatar.

But as long as we don't go to Qatar, that's like very difficult to do. Don't go to the embassy. They can still do it to us there. Oh, shit. I was about to get my driver's license renewed there, but we worked that all out. It's fine. I'm actually I'm looking at I'm looking at loans from Brunei next quarter, and that will repay the Qatari loans, and then we can go back.

I know how much we like hanging out at that embassy. So we'll be able to soon. See what people don't understand about Chapo trap house is that as a podcast, we lose hundreds of millions of dollars a year. Yes. That's just how this business works. Okay. You listening to this, you don't understand.

That's how this business works. And as a consequence of us losing all of this money, the government steps in and gives us checks for hundreds of millions of dollars every year. That's called a refund. Yeah. We are what's called in the financial business. We're technically a bank to fail to fail. And that is how Donald Trump made his money.

That's just how this that's how this works. Okay. I don't have time to explain. Do you think anyone listens to this shit besides you, the one person we've been talking to for four years? No, it's not. It's not our job to educate you. It's not Donald Trump's job to educate you.

I did like the New York Times, you know, as a supplement to their reporting, they had this cool sort of one of those news articles you read where as you scroll the graphics change and it's sort of like it's vibes. But you're sort of looking at, you're looking at graphs about, you know, from year to year like where his income comes from. And then you scroll down and you realize like beneath the certain access of like graph and sort of peaks and valleys that show his money, underneath it is almost like perfectly reflected almost like a like a placid surface of water is exactly that amount of money in debts and

liabilities. And I mean, I guess I know it's not like this for every like individual rich person, but isn't this a pretty good portrayal of how like most corporations operate? It's just like everything is perfectly balanced between money coming in and money you've borrowed or owe. But so it just remains like a sort of a perfect stasis at all times. So you take at least you have zero dollars, but you have unlimited credit all the time. Yep.

It's awesome. It's kind of unusual in this respect. Like the amount of personal debt he has is sort of insane, even in the family of billionaires. Like a lot of, if you read some stuff about like Deutsche Bank, they just kept lending him money in the 80s because they thought he was cooler. But like, but it is like for rich guys generally, it is a popular practice to use debt as a way to get out of taxes. I mean, like more, there are other vehicles too, like rich guys like using art for this

purpose. They're like using a lot of other things. I think Trump is unusual because his income streams are like kind of a mystery if you compare him to like, you know, a hedge fund guy of a similar financial profile. But it is, I mean, this is the system that Democrats and Republicans built and he's taking advantage of it. Yeah. I mean, that is the funny thing about this because it's like, I mean, yeah, I think it

is newsworthy. Like I don't really care to speculate on, you know, whether this will cost him in the election. I mean, maybe. Who knows. It might. It might not. Like who knows.

But I think it is just basically an interesting portrait of basically how wealth and the tax code functions in this country where it's just like, oh, like once you pass like a certain income level, like if you pay any income tax at all, you're a sucker. And like the, everyone like conservatives love to complain about how complicated the tax code is. But it's written that way by tax lobbyists and lawyers to create like an essentially a indecipherable morass that allows them to shelter vast sums of income. The more money you make generally, the more ways the government gives you ways to get

out of paying for it. I just saw something again on the New York Times that was like a map of IRS audits and like the most audited part of the country are like the poorest parts of Mississippi and Alabama. Of course. That's for say Manhattan, for instance, which is seems pretty perverse. But I mean, again, like, I guess the defense of Trump is that this is just what every rich person does.

And I think if you remember back in 2016, he admitted during one of the debates like, of course, I don't pay any taxes because I'm very smart and you know, like in the low and behold, that turned out to be exactly true. I mean, he was being honest about that. But you know, for the most part, people hate paying taxes and you know, like they view their tax burden as onerous and probably too much. And in most cases, that's probably true unless you're a fucking, you know, mega millionaire billionaire.

Well, Trump is very rich because he spent his entire life telling people that he's very rich. Yes. That's really at the root of all of this. He's never, I mean, not that this is important by any means, but he's never, he's probably never been an actual billionaire when you count up all of his liabilities. He's probably been in the red for most of his adult life. He didn't inherit a billion dollars from his father, but he didn't inherit, I don't know,

like a substantial amount of properties, which he didn't put that shit in a fucking index fund. He would have had actual billions of dollars. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. For sure. Oh, absolutely. But instead he, you know, he leveraged that and, you know, received these, these, you

know, preposterous lines of credit in the 1980s and, you know, probably did some shady Michael Milken shit. I mean, he is the perfect, whether he is or not technically a billionaire, he is the perfect American billionaire because the billionaire off the virtue of branding. That's the first billionaire in American history, John D. Rockefeller, just like he was the perfect avatar of his time because he was, he had this bullshit, like religious, folksy image, but in practice was just an awful fucking villain of a man, just a completely heartless monopolist and a genius at what he did.

He was the perfect avatar of America during that time, but over a hundred years ago, Trump is the perfect avatar of this time because it's like, well, how much does he make from charging rents? How much does he make from selling buildings? How much does he make from developing? I don't know. I do know one of his income streams. It's from being on TV.

Everything else is a fucking mystery. And then he's just a fucking billionaire because you tell me he's a billionaire because he hired some guy that he probably ended up stiffing whose job it is to call Forbes and be like, yeah, he's a billionaire. And honestly, he's like, he made way more money just from hosting a TV show than in any of his fucking other real estate business ventures, which have all been total fucking disasters. Yeah.

But he owes so much money and there's so much incentive in making sure that it is never recovered is that his name is too valuable to ever be truly brought to account. And so it also becomes a great cover for essentially just fucking money laundering. Like just straight ass money laundering, which is where a lot of his money that he's borrowing now that comes in related to the real estate shit is somewhere along the line. Trump realized or account and explained to him that actually, if your business is lose a shitload of money, then you'll just get that money back from the government. You can continue to live it up and build your personal brand.

Well, when conservative, when stuff like this happens and conservatives are like, yeah, see the fact that he got out of pain, that money shows that he should be running our economy or four years before the famous American line, we need a businessman to run the government. Trump's the perfect businessman to run this stage of American empire because he doesn't make anything. He doesn't generate that much revenue. He's not good at any. He can't really do anything, but it's worth a lot because he says so.

That's the stage of empire that dollars dominant because it's it's America's money. It's just because like in the fiat era, money is backed by like a promise of some sort of state structure. We have the one. We have the big one. We have the Trump of countries and that keeps the brand going. This is a country that can not really build bridges that last more than a decade. We had a shortage of just sanitary wipes, I think even still, any adversity that happens

to us. Just done. Roll over. It's done. Just stay inside for six months. It's not going to just wait for it to blow over. This is our guy. This is the business of America.

Another cool feature that was in the New York Times article about him about a little accounting trick that I think we can also employ is that Trump and his family members within the Trump business corporations all pay each other as consultants and the consulting fee gets tacked on to money that you're paying to employees, which is not taxable. It doesn't count as income, but you're paying yourself because you consulted on cutting the ribbon at a golf course or something and you got $700,000 for that. That's how the DOD works. That's literally how the tip of the spear of empire works.

You're in general for X number of years. You leave and you make 100 times your salary being a consultant for the war that you were never close to winning, but the point that it was never to win the war was to spend money. Yeah. Okay. Well, so what am I supposed to be mad about right now? That's kind of what all of this boils down to, like I'm supposed to be paying attention

and mad and posting in a certain fashion. So what am I supposed to be mad about having come back to the world of posting, having reenlisted after crashing my fucking Camaro, which group you are, though, like there are different things you're supposed to be mad on, depending on certain posting tribes. The Libs, if you're a Lib, you're supposed to be mad that he's pretending to be rich. That's the worst thing a rich person could do is lie about how much money he has, reveal himself to be a mere peasants. That's that that's they're mad about.

And then there's the Trump specific thing you're supposed to be mad about, which is that he gained the system and that he exploited it for his own benefit and that he's eventually essentially a predator. And then, of course, there's the thing that like the left is telling everyone is what you're supposed to care about, which is actually this is all systemic and he's only doing what the system allows him to do. So those are like your opinions that you can have. You can put shoes from that at the at the opinion buffet.

Virgil, I did appreciate your interaction with a fellow where you were sort of similarly asking this question and the guy was like, I think you'll find that, like, you know, yes, he he's playing by the rules that were made for people like him, but he also broke them. And you were like, well, what penalties does he face for breaking those rules? And they were like, well, apparently none as of yet. And you're like, well, in that case, they're not really rules. They're just sort of like suggest they're like sort of an honor system for how to pay your

taxes. Yeah, he's not good. Trump's not getting Wesley sniped. Yeah. So what are we what's what are we talking about here? What is he going to prison? No, he's not going to prison. He might have to he might have he might get a tax lien that he's never going to pay.

The government might say, oh, you got to pay back that hundred million dollars. I know Donald Trump's getting a tax lien and you know, who's repossessing his property at 1600 Pennsylvania, Joe Biden, the greatest collector in America. Let's go, baby. Okay, I'll tell you what, though, this is this is this is another related news story today is because like, you know, regardless of how it turns out, like, it's really hard for me to imagine like the bill will ever come due to Donald Trump, either like an actual bill of money he has to pay people that he owes because, like, you know, he's spent most

of his career just not paying people that he's contracted to do work. And, you know, you can extend that to not paying, you know, his taxes, but or like any criminal liability for his, you know, various frauds and swindles and, you know, just just generally crooked behavior. I will notice, though, that everyone who pledges fealty to Trump and is like, like, you know, is just dedicates themselves to helping him in any way. Their lives get super fucked up and I'm talking. Oh, yeah.

You know, our boy Brad Parscall, he's going through it right now, did a did a wellness check on him last night, you know, but I would give, oh my God, I would give anything to seeing the cop side of that because it's like, you know, you like imagine we love you brother, you're a fucking rock star. You're fucking off. Yo, we're bringing in a Navy SEAL who has given a suspended sentence for killing 33 children and almost contemplated suicide. You're a fucking rock star.

We love you, bro. You have your shirt off. You're looking fucking good. You look strong. Like that's the one suicidal guy that they've never wanted to kill. Yeah. Well, they did tackle him, you know, but he had a beer, you know, he was, you know, and I'm just saying like, you know, you're Brad, if you're out there, like, please stay strong,

you know, listen to that logic. And apparently, I mean, he may he may be pondering, you know, topping himself because, like, you know, he may get indicted for, like, laundering hundreds of millions of dollars for the Trump organization and through his campaign. But it like, you know, Trump himself or like maybe like his family, like it's very hard for me to imagine them ever facing any, any consequences for any of this. But like, if you're outside the family and you're one of those guys who became psychotically dedicated to Trump, like either he's going to betray you or you're going to end up in

ADX Florence, probably. Or I mean, you could be like Paul Manafort, who seems to be operating under the Italian criminal justice system, where they technically sentenced you to like eight years. And they're like, all right, you got a cold. You can go home. Yeah. But I mean, they also get redeemed, though, at some point because they all get a book. They all get a book deal like Michael Cohen is a bestselling.

Yeah. Yeah. Fellow bestselling author Michael Cohen. Yeah. None of these people can ever be brought to account because the system is designed to keep them churning through it and keeping them from any consequence. Because if one of them gets consequences, they all could. Yeah.

So everybody has to stay in the club. And I think that's where this part of the Mueller probe where he dug even like he hit about an inch of dirt and then immediately they had to arrest John Podesta's brother. Yes. It's like, no, you can't do any digging. You can't do. There's just like you, the only guys you could actually convict are the guys like Manafort, who just like get on a phone and are like, hi, do you want to commit an international

crime? Like just guys that fucking blatant. And for most of them, it's like, yeah, you can't send Brad, Brad Pascal to prison any more than you can send like, I don't know, Christina Pelosi. Like there, the one goes down, they all go down. I mean, there are people, people love ruminating about Kush, you're going to prison. And it's like, I get it. It would be awesome.

But it's like, that's not going to happen to them. You said Kush, you're to prison. You have to sell Chelsea Clinton's fucking fail hedge fund manager, husband, who also traded off the inside info. All these people are the same asshole. The only hope, honestly, to see any justice for the Trumps out of office is if Biden wins in a liberal Q type situation and does a coup on them all and has them all like, and suspends politics because the political system requires these people to always be above any real consequence

for their action. And that goes across party lines. And as soon as it's violated, then you are going to tip off of the axis of politics. Yeah. I mean, yeah, exactly. I love seeing like the Lincoln Project is, of course, loving this tax news. And they're like, oh, they're playing it up. They got so many fire memes in the pipeline, but like these are all being created by guys

who have spent their entire life, their entire adult lives and career, making it so that people like Donald Trump can do exactly this and get away with it. And then also, they're actual war criminals themselves who were also not held accountable when they left power in any way whatsoever. Like David Frum was shooting the other day about how like Yom Kippur was a time for judgment and atonement. And I'm like, like, I mean, how do you how do you fucking get up the balls to write that about someone else who's been avoiding taxes when you just like help kill a million

people? I would. I really like Matt's hypothetical of a liberal Ergonquin like that would be awesome. Like a trial, a trial against the Trump part of the deep state conducted by Biden and like the only prosecutor he can trust, like some 90 year old from Delaware, just sending all these guys to the 80 X Florence. It's it's the it's the joint chiefs of staff for the West Wing, the John Amos guy. I love I love Biden Erdogan.

Erdogan. Hopefully it happens. Yeah. No, he's definitely going to do that. Yeah, the liberal sledgehammer trial presided over by Deborah Messing. Awesome. I don't know if you call I don't know if you flag this one. Nick Kristof, bro, I think at the time saying the way to take down Trump is to laugh at

him. And it's just it's so weird. We're five weeks from the election. It's so weird to be hearing dates like that. That's a very that's a very 2017 like first year Trump in office kind of thing. That's like a 2015 take. That's like a hey, listen, guys, we know he's not going to win Iowa. But just in case you're scared, there's this guy, John Oliver will make sure that you never

have to deal with him. Well, that is man. Yeah, that's really good. I saw many Hassan saying like, you know, Joe Biden should take the debate because, you know, the media hasn't done it over the last four years to Joe Biden should take every opportunity at the debate to remind to call out Donald Trump's lies, call him a liar to his face. Have you no decency, sir?

He literally added, have you no same, sir? And it's just like, boom, done. I mean, yeah, who is the debate for? A lot of confidence right now. Who is the debate for? I mean, who's who's the target? I mean, I guess it depends on which candidate. I mean, I think I see.

I think this is actually a potentially consequential debate because I think that one of the things underlying Biden's, he has a decent and relatively stable lead and has, and you could say, oh, you know, that's true of Hillary, but he's actually in a better position than Hillary was in 20s. Right now. Yeah. Yeah. And the softness of that, one of the huge reasons is that the Democrats are offering

nothing as terms of a campaign of any sort of agenda beyond just not being Trump, which appeals to their base. But beyond that, I don't know if it's enough to inspire, you know, the kind of lead that you would expect to have running against the president presiding over these fucking conditions. But the other thing is, I think a lot of people do wonder if he's got the marbles. I mean, he has been spending the summer in like semi seclusion and they just bring him out like fucking weekend at Bernie's. And I think there are people on the fence who are going to want to watch and see if

he can like, if he's got it, if it and reassure themselves that he is not a zombie. But to these people, I mean, honestly, I'm trying to imagine. I know people have all kinds of crazy heuristics for voting, but it's a really substantial amount of people who are like, I don't know, I would vote for Biden, but he seems senile. Yeah, because people are people, you know, many people say stuff like I vote for the man, not the party or whatever the fuck. People actually do treat presidents like their individual character and like resume and shit matters like that, like because they're a narrative, they are a protagonist, like you're

basically auditioning them to be the protagonist of America for the next four years. So you are using personal traits to evaluate them because that's what you're trying to look for and the ability to, you know, count to 10 and draw clock is part of that. Well, I mean, I just think the idea that like, I mean, Chris Wallace is moderating the first debate has already said he's not going to perform the role of fact checker. And I just like this idea that like if only, if only in under the national gaze with no safety net, like an objective third party could just call out Donald Trump's lies and just say that was a lie.

Yeah. Like it would matter. I mean, because Joe Biden, Joe Biden lies all the fucking time. Remember his last debate where he was just like, oh, I didn't do that. I didn't say that. I didn't try to call it so secure and Bernie was like, you're lying and it didn't matter at all. He got crushed.

Yeah. I mean, that's why I think people are like, I think like if he wins the debate in any way, it's going to be off the strength of his line versus Trump off of him, like his more confident lying style and his what he does, Trump does the kind of lying where his base knows he's lying, but he they like it because it's pissing off the other side. Biden does the type of lying where his base likes it because he's going through the work of attempting to sound honest. Yes.

So like that's a very good way of putting it. That's like, like, like Trump supporters like him because he's lying because he's getting away with it and who he's getting it away against are people who are also liars, who they hate. You know, whereas Biden's lies are like, actually, I think you'll find he represents the most progressive platform in American presidential history if you read his website. Yeah. When Biden lies, the liberal response is, you know, he's making the smart moves.

He's pandering in the correct way. He's sounding very presidential. Or yeah, like he's just or there or like he doesn't even think of Biden in the Biden campaign is he doesn't really even need to explicitly lie because there are so many fucking saps who will just do it for him and invent out of nothing this idea that like he actually does represent a progressive vision or can be pushed to the left as he fills his transition team with Cindy McCain and Marge shot former owner of the Cincinnati Reds. So let me ask the let me ask a different question then.

Are there people tuning into this debate because they want the information to make up their minds? Is that a substantial number of people saying, you know, oh, well, election coming up better find out what these two fellows are all about. I have no fucking idea. I have no clue. Yeah. It's just, you know, it's that undecided voter thing at this at this stage in the presidential

election. It just seems so impossible for me to ponder that, you know, you could be still be making up your mind at this point or would be looking to this debate as some sort of decisive factor. But I assume there are some people, I mean, I think it's just the debates are just sort of like it's going through the motions of pretending we live in a democracy. Yeah. And that's a big part of it is like, well, yo, this still matters because look, there's a presidential debate and they're talking about things and I'm watching it.

So like there still is a political spear in American life and I'm participating in it. Yeah, no, it's impossible to say though, but speaking of living in a democracy, I guess the other really big story this week was Joseph Coney Barrett is going to be Donald Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And by all accounts will almost certainly be, you know, she will gain that seat. They will vote for her and then she will be on the Supreme Court for probably the next 60 years. But yeah, I mean, where do you want to go with Coney 2020 Barrett here?

I mean, it does seem incredibly bleak. I mean, because the idea that like the Supreme Court is going to be mega throttled by like an insane, insane like right wing minority, like, I mean, not the majority on the court, but representing a astonishingly small number of people who, and again, no one's voted for any of these people. And they're going to basically throttle all law for the next 60, 70 years, most likely. I don't know, I'm kind of taking a, I'm kind of taking a, a, a, of that approach to it because the way I kind of think of it, one way or another, her being on the Supreme Court

and this new six three majority isn't going to matter that much in the near future, because either there will be some sort of meaningful political crisis caused by the now completely frozen gears of the government and like this new dominant minority that is literally making it, it makes it possible to govern and that's going to cause, that would either cause the Supreme Court to, to be, to lose its position as like the, the veto point, the final veto point for all legislation and programs or if that doesn't happen and we're in a situation where that court is still there, we have other bigger problems, you know, like, like it's going to, that's only going to be a tertiary structural impediment to anyone not being

put in, turned into fucking dog food. I guess just the thing I've been most fascinated with is the, it's the notorious RGB people and their, their inability to metabolize what happened or that they, they, they can't admit or allow anyone to, to, to openly state what is obvious and irrefutable that this is a situation we are in because of the rather selfish and irresponsible choice of Ruth Bader Ginsburg not to retire when she could have guaranteed that there would have been a liberal suited on, you know, ceded to replace her and these forms of denial take a couple of really interesting avenues and like the first of which is to pretend that it was just thoroughly

impossible for Obama to get anyone on the Supreme Court because of what happened to Merrick Garland, like forgetting the fact that like Mitch McConnell took over the Senate in 2014 and that he got already two of his choice justices on the Supreme Court in an up or down vote. So they're just pretending that that, like that would have been impossible. So to say that, oh, oh yeah, just there's no way she could have retired and then just been replaced by someone who is, you know, of a similar political point of view is one thing.

And then the other thing is these people sort of like saying that like there's no way she could have known that Hillary Clinton would lose and that she would die, which is like, you don't have to be fucking the amazing Kreskin to just like, okay, yeah, all of us myself included thought there was no way Hillary Clinton was going to lose that election. But it's still a fucking gamble if you're in her point, if you're in her shoes, it's still a fucking gamble. And to be willing to make that gamble with the lives of like hundreds of millions of people so that you can still have fun on your job seems pretty monstrous.

Well, I mean, also this idea that like she didn't know she could die. She's in her 80s and already had cancer twice. It's a pretty fucking safe bet. I want to be fair to her. Look at the last 30 years of her life. It's not like there were any Republican presidents during that time. They never won from 1990 to 2020. Basically no GOP president.

I don't know. I don't know, Will. I mean, you know, when people retire, you know, they start to get weird, you know, they're like, you know, maybe sometimes they just start hanging around the office, you know, like, because that's all they know, it's all you know what to do, you know, it's hard to like just take up new hobbies in your twilight years, you know, I mean, I don't I don't blame her. I mean, I would have stayed on. It's fun.

You know, it's fun. You get to hang out with your friends and Samuel Lido, you know, your pals, you know, your crew, your gang, your entourage, whatever, you get to, you know, make the decisions that are not subject to the evaluation of anyone above you, decisions, matters of life and death for millions, millions of people. Yeah, I think that's what it comes down to, Virgil, is that like she she she like the juice too much to give it up. And that's cool.

Because these people are sickos. It's a good game. People are fucking sickos. They're driven by their empathy. They're driven by this need to put this will to power. Okay. Well, here's a really divorced from any fucking political value system. So you would have retired.

I wouldn't. Supreme Court. Are you fucking kidding me? How would that ever happen? Virgil, if I was on the Supreme Court, I wouldn't be me. It's an absurd question. I'll answer the question. I'll answer the question.

Thank you, Will. I'll answer the question. Of course I fucking would have retired. Of course I would fucking retire and like knowing the system that we live under where judges are appointed by the president and for life and that like knowing full well that could either easily be another Republican president when I'm 85 years old. You think that like someone who actually cared about protecting civil rights, protecting women's rights, protecting the laws and precedent that she supposedly like represents the best

of America. Do you think that someone who actually cared about the people who adored her would fucking take that big of a risk with their lives for her own personal fucking edification? Well, what if you got replaced with Mary Garland? Well, I mean, that would suck. I mean, first of all, hold on a minute. Why would that have to be the case? It's not like what the question of when she could have retired is obvious.

Obama's first two years because Democrats control the Senate and the presidency. No matter what happened in the future, if it changed, it would be for the worse. You either lose the Senate or you lose the presidency. Either way, the quality of the fucking or the political reliability of the nominee is going to be lower. The best. It's the single best spot holding out is pointless. You're not holding out for anything.

You're only holding out for a likelihood of a worse situation with a worse nominee. Exactly. Like the longer it goes on, like the greater the odds of something of this terrible situation occurring happening. And it's just, once again, it's just another opportunity for everyone to relitigate 2016 because like there are people saying, well, you know, this reflects really badly on Ruth Bader Ginsburg that she would do this or like that she really should have done the responsible thing and retired when she had a chance.

And then people are saying, oh, well, yeah, you didn't even vote for Hillary Clinton. And like, that's the reason that this is happening. And it's just like, if you believe that, shouldn't you be mad at Hillary Clinton for losing? Ultimately, you put all of your fucking hopes and like the one thing that this person could say that like actually had some truth to it is that like, I'm the only thing that will stop, you know, the opus day people of prayer takeover of the Supreme Court. And they didn't even do that. They didn't even care enough to fucking seat a nominee when they had the fucking chance.

So I mean, the point that I'm driving at is for any of this to make sense, like any individual justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have to have a fealty to in a greater ideological project and would be able to coordinate with the other the other like the other institutions, the other actors in this project. And I don't believe that the Democratic coalition, you know, either in 2014 or 2009 or whatever, represented a coherent and coordinated ideological project. You're absolutely right, no, you're correct, the right wing has. Yeah.

No, the right wing. I don't understand that though. I don't understand what difference that makes though. Because that doesn't change your incentives to drop out in the one period of time after I believe after she'd gotten a fucking cancer diagnosis. Because to pull the ripcord. There was never going to be a better time. Because, well, okay, I've been looking into a lot, like, no, yeah, you're right that there

would be no better time and that make no, made no sense in any logical evaluation what she actually did. But I've been reading a lot of liberal defenses of her. I think they're very interesting. They're very revealing. You have the one side that says she needed to show Sotomayor and Kagan what to do. Like they were Sims. Like if you lock the door, they would starve to death.

If RBG is around, Elena Kagan is going to walk into an empty pool and she won't be able to get out because Justice Roberts took out the fucking ladder. But it's taken in Sotomayor just like they're taking LSD for the first time and they need a center. Yeah. And that's the farthest end of liberal delusion. That's just insanity, right? Don't even take it seriously.

That's someone who's insane. They're never coming back. Go figure. That's the farthest end of liberal delusion. But then you have the other end. And this one was very interesting to me. And this is what I was going to say earlier. I guess it was so boring that I forgot in the second.

But it was someone who said, and I admired this because it was more honest than these other defenses. Oh, come on. Like you've never made a decision that you wanted to make for good reasons that ended up hurting people. And why did she make that decision because she wanted to inspire women by having her replacement picked by a woman. And no, that's idiotic.

It's completely callous in the face of the suffering that her replacement is going to cause. It's playing a very high stakes game with a relatively low payout depending on how you look at things. But knowing what we know about these people, could you not just see that being the reason she figured out? Let's roll the dice. I can't die.

Can I? Yeah. No. What if, reversely, all the notorious RBG lionizing of her bullshit? What if that, you know, buffed her up to the degree that she's like, well, I should stay on the court because I'm clearly inspiring all these people. Like, I can't just quit. I'm going to take.

I'm going to take. I'm going to take. No, hold on. I don't agree with that because I don't think you need a bunch of mid tier Jezebel writers to make a federal judge pompous. I think that's you already got. Yeah. I think she.

I think she also. I think she purely resented those people. Yes. Let's be honest. Yeah. I agree with Felix. I think about the extent that she was aware. Hold on.

What do you think she felt about being compared to a black rapper? Think about it. Yeah. Right. I like to imagine. I'm not sure, but I like to imagine that, you know, in all of her, all of the opinions that she's been authoring, there have just been like little footnotes just alluding to the notorious RBG stuff and kind of subtly trying to say, hey, please knock the shit

off. Yeah. It's really, it's really dispiriting to me. I know. I, I agree with Felix. Like, to the extent that she was aware of it at all, I think it probably deeply pissed her off. I think I think she thought of it probably as disrespectful, but like as to her legions

of adoring fans who made her into this pop cultural symbol, I mean, her own actions give the truth of how she really felt about these people, which are overwhelmingly young women, which is that she doesn't give a fuck about them. Yep. She did. She would have behaved responsibly or she would have understood or like what the right does that they're part of a broader ideological project that is playing a long game to like change the law and culture of the United States, which means that when it's, you know, your

time that you bow out and make sure that the president who is in your corner fills the seat that you leave open, right? I mean, like the right doesn't fuck around with that. Like, I mean, they got stung once or twice with like, you know, suitor or a few of the other like. Suitor. Suitor. Yeah.

Like that. Or, you know, fucking Rehnquist or whatever, like, you know, I mean, they've got stung by Supreme Court justices that they've nominated and haven't hadn't turned out the right way. Like what's her name? When Bush nominated his like family lawyer to the Supreme Court, Harriet Myers, Harriet Myers and like they sunk that immediately, not because she was ludicrously unqualified, but because she wasn't a fucking known quantity. She wasn't a sure thing and they scrapped that and they got the fucking person that

they knew was going to be like the 100% down the line federalist society, like turn back the clock in America to the 1840s person, like that's what they're going for. And you know, like, I think you're exactly right. I don't think the liberals on the court or liberals anywhere in this country have any such notion that they're involved in a like a larger political project. And like, I think the evidence of that is that like, what do they like about Ruth Bader Ginsburg? It's that she achieved individually and got to the highest thing.

And it's not just what the laws she passed or like laws that she stopped from passing. It's that it's that she's there and achieved. And that's why she can stay there until she's 80 fucking years, 90 fucking years old. Okay. What is the thing? Why did they call her notorious RBG? Did they call her that because she overturned things in a notorious way? Did they call her that because she said a bunch of amazing precedents because she swayed

the court? No, it was her dissents. It's that she lost in style. Isn't that amazing? I want you just a little experiment, little experiment that I'm personally doing. I've done it for a while. I follow someone. I'm not going to name him.

He's from McConnell's team. He's not like a big Trump guy, but he's an operator and he knows what he's after. You can find someone similar out there. He can figure it out. Then follow somebody on the Democrat side of things. Follow somebody from Schumer's team, you know, ex-Officer, wherever, you know, fucking McCaskill, whatever, who gives a shit, one of those losers. Someone who is high up, a Kappa regime in the Democrat mafia, compare, compare what you

get there. You get somebody. I get this guy. I follow from team McConnell. Very interesting. He never fucking shuts up about appellate court appointees, about, you know, recess appointments. He's got his eye on the fucking prize. He's a very, you know, the world is a zero-sum place kind of guy.

He's very, you know, ice in his veins, but he's after one thing. And that's even when the game is over numerically, which, you know, it kind of already is. Just preserving this rule and preserving these laws, the ones that the donors are paying for, the thing that will make him rich when he's an old man. You go to the Democrat side, what do you see? Let's normalize masks. Let's normalize masks. Let's normalize masks.

Or like, look at Kamala wearing the shoes. Oh, what, what, what if, what if we, what if we appointed Michelle Obama to the fucking ambassador to the UK? Let's grab back all over the place, cultural signifiers. They don't give a shit about any type of permanent rule or just planning their flag anywhere. They have the culture. That's where they're going to plant their flag and go figure with these fucking losers. They'll probably lose that too.

And you know, like, forever, like, you know, what they're really talking about is something like, you know, Roe v. Wade, like, you know, will the legal right to an abortion, you know, be overturned in large parts of the country. I mean, it functionally has already been overturned in large parts of the country through, you know, the eating away through regulations that they don't really need to overturn it on like a state level, you know, like, it's just like, there's just one abortion clinic for like, you know, that serves like 100 million people and like large swaths of this country. But like, yeah, yeah, they don't care because they know for them, like their personal rights

and privileges are going to be pretty much well preserved. And that like all the, all the other hard right wing decisions that this court is going to hand down, like there was a good article the other day about how basically it's just one of the Koch brothers got Kavanaugh across the finish line and they're going to do the same for Amy Coney Barrett because what they want to do is create like a pre-new deal sort of gilded age regime of labor rights and like the untrammeled access to, of money, equaling power in our system of government. Do you think any of these people like working for Chuck Schumer give a fuck about that?

No. No, they're the beneficiaries of the exact same thing that they're going to do. There are two payoff systems for people leaving the, leaving high staffer positions or even just elected office and politics. One lane is lobbyist. You'll work about fucking 20 hours a week and you'll be a fucking millionaire. That is the, that is a very common path. I'd say almost every Republican takes that path and a lot of Democrats, but there is

one lane that only exists for Democrats and that is the path of entertainment. You write some fucking abominable script about like, I don't know, a president who goes on okay Cupid or, you know, you consult for some dog shit show and you get in that position not by winning because these lobbyist positions, the Republicans give them out to winners. Guys who, even if they lost their election, they put a guy, they put a fucking 24 year old with an associates degree on the bench. He's going to rule there for the next hundred years. The Democrats give that to their losers here, here, you know, you lost valiantly here.

Make some of David Geffen's pocket change to write some fucking awful bullshit. We'll also make you a millionaire, but not because we give a shit about how you affected anyone's lives or any victory for our ideological point of view. It's because we celebrate someone who lost in style like you did. We know that you're a good person. That's all that counts. Republicans don't do that. I mean, it'll be interesting to see what's going to happen with something like, you know,

a legal abortion or Roe v. Wade, because I mean, there's nothing I will put past them, but I think the smarter apparatchiks in the pro-life movement understand that they don't really need to overturn Roe v. Wade to get most of what they want. And if they did overturn Roe v. Wade, it could provoke something that would lead to like an actual political backlash because abortion is one of those issues in America that people have an opinion about in a way that's not vague, it's not like ill-defined or they don't quite know what to believe or like if they could live with it, they could just sort of live with it either way.

It's like it's a very either or issue that people feel very strongly about. But you know, if they do overturn Roe v. Wade, like you think that that would dispense with the one thing that the Democrats have over you if you're not a right-wing person is that like we're the party that's going to defend legal abortion in America. But I think like the perverse way that the system works is such that like the more power that they see to Republicans, the more the right-wing the country gets despite like being a banishingly small group of people in terms of the overall population who wants or believes in any of these things.

Like the more purely minoritarian and authoritarian our government gets, the more dire the need to vote for Democrats over all else becomes. So it's like, it really is, they got you totally straight-jacketed by this. They got you coming and going here because it's just like the worse the Republicans get, the worse the Democrats are free to be because they're still not the Republicans. And like the more dire the need to vote for them above all else becomes, like it's always now is not the time, you know, we just need to defeat this ex-threat in front of us because it represents, you know, such a grotesque abrogation of our rights and, you know, you know, our

rights as a Democratic citizens in a 21st century country. Well, to bring it full circle, the Democrats have done the political version of Donald Trump's financial maneuverings. They're doing the political version of you owe somebody a thousand dollars, you've got a problem, you owe somebody a billion dollars, they've got a problem. You lose so fucking much and so fucking bad, even when you win, that things get so dire and the stakes become so high that you turn to your voters who, rightfully, don't give a shit about you and go, well, what the fuck, you're not going to vote for me in the most

important election ever? Why is it the most important election ever? What did you do to get us to that point? Yeah, it keeps just getting worse and worse. It's getting good, it's getting good. It's just you're not believing in them. Running Joe Biden is the political equivalent of paying $750 in taxes. Yeah.

I mean, I guess what I'm seeing is like they, and now facing down the fucking barrel of, like I said, like probably as long as we're alive at the Supreme Court barring some extroits, I mean, the Democrats have already said that they're not going to do anything about this, right? They couldn't even pretend for a day that they were going to do anything. They have explicitly said, we are not going to do it, we're not going to stop it, we're not going to try to stop the nomination, we're going to vote against it and that's it. And yeah, we're not going to back the court, we're not going to declare Marbury v. Madison

to be invalid, we're not going to eliminate judicial review, we're not going to do anything. Just vote, though. We're not going to do anything. Just vote. A far right Supreme Court, no matter what. No matter what the election outcome is. You've got to vote, though. You've got to vote.

Yeah. You've got to vote. So it becomes a 7-2 court? I don't know. I mean, I guess at this point they have to switch from defending it to attacking it and now we're going to get it back. That's just how you flip it. Now we've got to get it back.

We lost it. Now we get it back. The court is... Thomas could die. Yeah. The court is lost until the unlikely hero, President J.B. Pritzker, the captain of the Third American Republic, brings us the 78 Supreme Court seats and they're all formerly disbarred Cook County attorneys.

Let's go. But what I mean is they don't give a fuck about you. They don't care if your rights are going to be taken away from you by this revanchist right-wing minority. They simply don't give a fuck. If they did give a fuck at all, they would behave differently. They would try to win. They would try to do anything about it.

And it's the people who defend them the most are still the ones who are like, the people at fault here are those that have lost faith of the Democratic Party by not voting for Clinton or simply just being critical of her when she was our presidential nominee. And it's just always going to be the case of them. It's their never-ending fucking fault here and it's just, you know what? If you're angry about the situation that you find yourselves in now as a Democrat, we sent you a boat in 2016 and a fucking helicopter in 2020 and you didn't fucking want it. Enjoy drowning with the rest of us.

That's the allegory that I keep going for here. It's just like any possible, a different path that's offered to them, they shit all over it. And the same group of voters that they regard as apparently decisive in every presidential election, well, okay, if they're that important that Jill Stein voters are why Donald Trump is president, well then shouldn't you try to offer them something or get their vote if you need it that badly? Nope.

Not going to do that. Just keep voting for us. Just keep fucking voting for us. It's going to be a 9-1 Supreme Court eventually. But you know, the one person that we have on there is just all the more reason we need to support them. I'm not... I like the idea that it's 9-1 because it's all 9 conservatives.

8-1, sorry. No, no. I like 9-1 better because in the future, it's all 9 conservative justices and then the Democratic president wins the vow to pack the court and adds a single seat. I have no interest in dissuading people from voting for Biden. I think it's a fruitless argument. I think it's a fruitless argument because, you know, like I said, when it became clear he was going to win the nomination, it's out of our hands.

It's... Most of the people you see arguing about it too, it's out of their hands too. You think any of the people that are going to decide this election know who we are or give a fuck about us? Yeah. They don't give a fuck about you, me, anyone we fucking know. Do you think they're reading fucking New York magazine? No.

They don't give a shit. We're all a bunch of fucking losers to them. They don't fucking care. They're going to vote on their own metric, which is an impossible to penetrate equation for us. But... And that's why it's hilarious how 90% of the shit on the internet now from people, even people who will tell you things don't matter, is saying what the people will think of X,

Y, and Z. You don't fucking know. Yeah. No one knows. These are people who don't know. You don't give a fuck about you. But look, the Biden campaign, they took it, they're the FBI going on to the crime scene saying this is our jurisdiction.

It's their jurisdiction now. Don't waste your fucking time every day arguing over fucking harm reduction versus blah, blah, blah. It's fruitless. It's fruitless because you're not even going to remember doing this. Yeah. No, it's just passing time. It's up to the Biden campaign whether they win or not.

They'll figure it out. It's up to the Trump campaign. Have you made up your time in trying to cope with their powerlessness? The argument about how, hey, look, at the end of the day, you may not like Hillary Clinton, but the next president could get two or even three nominees on the Supreme Court. That was an argument you could have made in 2016. Can't make it now. That ship has sailed.

Forget about it. Yeah. Well, best of luck to all competitors. If this was a drag race, I would love to be the girl who brings the flags down. I'd love to be wearing a Von Dutch hat and like Jean Cut-Offs and then just sort of... Yeah. Yeah. Drop that bandana.

Ooh. I want to be the person who feeds the driver in the pit crew. I want that to be my job, squirting water in the driver's mouth, maybe putting like a little grape in there. Well, I think one thing that should be noted and that I think maybe both sides can even agree on, Kobe Bryant Barrett, kind of fire with it though. Actually, yeah, she's a mouth, yeah. I don't know.

I don't know. Come on. I don't know. I don't know. I'm playing my cards close to the chest, you know. All right. I'm not telling you how I'm voting right now. I think you could stipulate she would be the hottest Supreme Court justice if she got on

there. I'm going to Joe Manchin this one. Well, there you go. If you want to leave it there for today. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was the call.

Debate tomorrow night. Whoo-hoo. Hell yeah, buddy. I'm so excited. Happy birthday to me. Debate tomorrow night and then we'll be breaking down all of the homie rule later in the week as soon as showtime lets me fucking watch. Yeah.

It's good that one's paywall because that'll be a good episode. I'm just going to put in here real quick that you can watch all that debate streaming coverage on twitch.tv's last Chapo trap house starting at, I don't know, like eight tomorrow. Yeah. All right. Talk to you guys soon. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

Bye-bye. Bye. Bye-bye.