Chapo Trap House - 562 - Goodbye Horses (9/28/21)

Episode Date: September 28, 2021

We’re back to a normal-style ep after a week of interviews. We’re taking a look at the fast-tracked aid package to intelligence agents suffering unreality issues, the Biden administration addressing just the optics at the border, and AOC addressing just the optics of the Iron Dome bill. Finally, we having a reading series that functions as a bit of a coda to Will and Matt’s visit to Ozy Fest way back in 2018. One last time, go subscribe to https://www.youtube.com/chapotraphouse And go grab some of Simon Roy’s great posters over at https://shop.chapotraphouse.com/ More merch coming soon!

And a report last year by the National Academies of Science found the brain injuries were most likely caused by pulsed microwave energy, which former CIA director Leon Panetta says is a serious threat. That kind of technology is very real and it can threaten people, not by bullets, simply by using the capabilities to send a wave into an embassy. What's made this so tough to solve is the fact that the symptoms the Americans are reporting are so vague, things like nausea, hearing loss, and problems with balance and memory. Many reported hearing this sound before falling ill.

Week of all star guest appearances on the show, one of the strongest one we've ever done. But you know what, the news and current events, they march on with or without us. So fellas, how you been? I'm back from my odyssey. You just started one. Yeah. No, I've been through a lot.

What is that with the Blagojevic hair helmet in person? What is that? He honestly, he honestly, like I said it on the episode, he looks like amazing. You know the thing that you, like people get when they age the Garfield line, I call it? No. Women who don't know anything about beauty called smile lines, that's fucking stupid because even people who don't smile get it. But I call it the Garfield line.

It's the two lines on the side of the mouth that are sort of, yeah, run diagonal. He doesn't, like he barely has those and he's like 60. His hair looks amazing. It's gray now, like it's solidly gray, but like hairline wise and everything, it looks good. I think like the, okay, like people may get mad at me for this, but if you're like 50, one of the best things you can do for your health is to go to federal prison for it. I'm not saying this is the case if you're young, the opposite.

It's very bad for your health if you're under 50. And for 20 years, bad for you. Like, I mean, like, I don't know. I don't know, like Bernie Madoff looked good before he died, I will say that. Abolition has blown the fuck out. Well, I'm not even saying, I'm not saying like, oh, that's why we should keep prison, but like. I am.

I want, I want older kings to thrive in any way possible. I mean, really it just like sun, you know, like sun is the worst thing, it's the worst thing for skin. That's true. It's the worst thing for what? Yeah. Slate. We're going to do a slight correction based on my interview with India Walton.

I pressed her on the possibility of declaring an every time I die day in Buffalo, unaware of the fact that the city of Buffalo has already declared it every time I die day. So apologies for that. But I will be lobbying hard for an every time I die week because I think those boys deserve it. No, I agree with that. Gentlemen, I know where I'd like to start today because we had a brief period of feeling good about the news after the Biden Afghanistan pullout, but, you know, right back reverting

to form everything sucks, everything's horrible. And I would just like to start today's episode with what I think is absolutely the most telling and perfect encapsulation of everything about American politics and what it is and stands for. I will just begin here, headline New York Times. The House passes a bill to provide care for U.S. official suffering from Havana syndrome. So I mean, like, I don't even follow it this week, but it just basically like the Democrats announced today that they're open to means testing virtually everything in the reconciliation

budget bill that's good or worthwhile. So like that's just basically going to get whittled away to nothing. But wouldn't you know it last week, the Havana Syndrome Relief Act passed both the House and Senate without a single no vote? Yeah. No, this is I do I do think it's like, narratively interesting that they're getting a disease a psychic disease, like a disease that they're clearly just they're imagining. Yeah.

This is clearly just this is like college educated people who like feel bad about what they do. People never like directly confront it and they're so their bodies are like killing them. Yeah. And I'm not going to say that's like a bad thing because it's not. But they instantly get it and really the only way because, you know, with everything else going on, the dental expansion for seniors in Medicare, they already scrap fucking vision. But that is not going to be implemented in eight years.

So my advice to everyone who's struggling is, we need to campaign for something like a life of others type setup where we're all working for this because you can just apparently you could just say whatever. I mean, like I have a I have a hangover. They tried to kill me. I feel a bit like I I on some level think I'd like deserve to die. Like I should kill myself every day and I'm right and it gave me a headache. I mean, like you need to give me more health care.

OK, I would be down with with treating the Havana syndrome for these people. They can have just a ration of vodka every day. Do handle your guilt the way that the old school CIA guys did. Just drink yourself into oblivion and convince yourself that your wife is a spy. Yeah. This is I'm sorry. This is such a fucking insult to every human being who's alive on the planet. He's like the the the the time in which this bill was written to being passed and on Joe

Biden's desk was probably 12 hours to cover the health problems caused by a completely imaginary make believe illness suffered by suffered by at most 12 people. And if it was real, if there was a sonic ray that was like giving them diarrhea, like good. Yeah. No one deserves it more. These people are demons anyway. Yeah. And and it's just like the every single utterly insufficient meager threadbare measure to

provide health care for anyone or reduce the price of prescription drugs by like a nickel has been shit can from this bill from like Democratic senators who got, I don't know, $5,000 from a pharmaceutical company for their reelection campaign. That's how much it costs. And OK, I just want to read from the New York Times here, it says, the House unanimously passed a bill Tuesday authorizing additional support, additional support for U.S. officials who were injured in a series of mysterious episodes that caused traumatic brain injuries. I mean, do they have or have died, have a doctor confirmed any of these traumatic brain

injuries? Wouldn't that show up on like a fucking CAT scan or something? The Senate first passed the legislation pushed by Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine on June 7th, because the House voted on that version of the bill will now go to President Biden to sign. Passage comes after a number of incidents continues to grow. A CIA officer traveling in India with William J. Burns, the agency director, was injured earlier this month exhibiting symptoms of the so-called Havana syndrome.

The incidents could be attacked by hostile intelligence services, but the United States has not drawn a conclusion about what the precise cause is and who is responsible. I mean, if only we were able to draw precise conclusions about why Americans are dying from lack of medical care, maybe we could pass a fucking bill on that. But no, it's just, yeah, the CIA director had a tummy ache on a recent trip to India. And like I said, not a single no vote on the Havana syndrome relief bill, not a single no vote. Way to fight the deep state.

Not even Thomas Massie, who did only Republican to vote against the Iron Dome thing. Even he's like, they need this. This is important. I mean, what is it even going to be? What is this money going to go to? I mean, I believe that, like, okay, yeah, that's a good question. What exactly is this relief going to go to? An adult Montessori.

Yeah. No. That's the only thing you could do for this. For like an imaginary seat, like a like a yarn ball room. I think that the Havana syndrome and efforts that combat it are basically just like, like a double blind effort by various factions within the intelligence community in deep state to just shift money around in different ways to like do other things and just that or give everybody in the CIA a Kong filled with peanut butter and volume.

I do feel like I do feel like maybe the way this started is like one guy just wanted to get like Cody and cough syrup. He wanted to get like Perk 30s, like O'Pana, something they don't make anymore. And was like, oh, I've been hit by a psychic attack. And then it just like got out of hand because everyone else wanted attention. It says here, officials believe that more than 200 people. Wow. So this is that we've given health care to 200 people in America.

Awesome. 200 people could have been injured in episodes while microwave devices or other directed energy equipment are a possible cause. Administration and congressional officials have not determined the source of the injuries which were first observed in Cuba and have been come to be known as Havana syndrome. Check this out. The number is going up all the time, said representative Adam Schiff. Democrat of California and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee in an interview

this summer. From the descriptions that I've heard firsthand from some of the victims, they seem quite purposeful, quite deliberate and very specific, Mr. Schiff said. And that's suggestive of a foreign bad actor, foreign bad actor. Are we talking the FSB or Roberto Bonini, folks? Yeah. The cases are skyrocketing. 200 people have been injured in the last couple of years.

And 200 Americans desperately need this relief. And you know what? If people in America are suffering and need medical care or they just need help, like our government will fucking make that happen. They will move heaven and earth to just get it done. Has anyone been hospitalized for this? I don't know. Because you'd think if you'd been hospitalized, you could like measure the effects of this

disease on there. They could actually show the brain injuries that these people are claiming to have. It would rule, though, to be a CIA scumbag, go on a foreign mission, come home with like fucking sores all over your dick and tell your wife you got hit with a ray gun. And then get the government to pay for your fucking Valtrex. Look, look, they put all these microchips in my pubic hairs. They have little legs on them. Look at all these nanobugs crawling all over me.

Look, look, this thing right above my lip. That's where they injected me with a surveillance device. Yeah, no, this is like the deep state version of like everyone who's like, I just want everyone to know immediately after getting the vaccine, my dick turned small and impotent. I want to be clear. It was right after getting the vaccine, dick does not work anymore. I do like that everyone now has like an illness to fake because like if you're like a conservative woman, you can pretend to get the vaccine and be like, oh, I can't stop doing the monster

mask. I need to go fund me. I love those shaking videos. I love the seizure videos because it's so funny. It's like, why is this why is this vaccine side effect only found among women of a certain age? Where are the fellows? Where are the fellows out there doing the Harlem Shake because they got a vaccine?

It seems to only affect women of the Marjorie Teller Green variety, women who have been kicked out of everywhere. That's a very strange medical consequence of it. But like if you're if you're liberal, you have this when everyone has to like feel bad for you. Oh, man. The other thing I love about the seizure TikTok videos is they're like, this started happening immediately after getting the vaccine.

Like like medical side effects happened the second you fucking get to take something. I wish it worked that way shaking. I mean, like listeners, I'm shaking. Those videos are cool. I saw one of those women they roll that markets hot as fuck right now because I saw it like one of them like wasn't even like attractive in any way. And she lives in a country with universal health care and still got to go fund me for 40 K.

Like, if you want to buy a Hellcat, do this. It is so sweet. Yeah. So yeah, it says for far too many Havana syndrome victims have had to far too many had Havana syndrome victims have had to battle the bureaucracy to receive care for their debilitating injuries. She said in a statement, by the way, if you need insulin as an American, you're shit out of luck. The bureaucracy is the government fact that an insulin dose cost $700.

We're not going to do anything about that. But you know, let's talk about, you know, the unseen, the silent victims of Havana syndrome. That is one of the most upsetting things about like these people already have health care. They're decently paid government employees on the federal level. The doctors, though, oppress them by asking them for any evidence that anything is wrong with them. Yeah.

Yeah. No. Yeah. That's why no one's like been fucking hospitalized for this. This is where else there would be if there was any person, if there was any doctor in the fucking world who is like, you need to be in the ICU for this. There would be video of it plastered everywhere. But no one, not even like, not even like, I'm, you know, there are doctors who are probably

like mob doctors for the CIA. Even they're like, you, what are you talking about? Like you're hungover, shut up. This is Susan Collins talking, by the way. She says, for those victims, the Havana Act will ensure they receive the financial and medical support that they deserve. They deserve no financial or medical support at all from any point. They should actually be in prison.

To look better. They got it close to too much sun in Havana. That's their problem. Because it also affirms our commitment to making sure that our government finds out who is responsible. And then just at the end here, like this, this, this, this last quote sums everything up from this New York Times article. It says here, this is Mr. Schiff talking.

He says, we want to make sure that everybody that's been impacted by these anomalous incidents gets the healthcare that they need, he said. So we want it to be broadly interpreted. These same fucking cocksuckers are, are, are blocking any healthcare for anyone who's not in the CIA. Any real medical problem that like, people are, people are dying of fucking insulin shock because they like, because they just, because Joe Manchin's daughter colluded to jack up the price.

Are we going to do anything about that? Nope. We're going to make sure. We're going to craft the broadest, most generous healthcare bill imaginable for the imaginary ailments of 20 people. Land-eated morgellons. Fucking hay. Jesus Christ.

They're dabbing on us. That's all there is to be said. That is, that is the thing. Like in reality, this is like another victory by the CIA, because they get to like just ever like they get to make up an illness and get money for it. But if this is going how they say it is, the CIA is taking like no rings lately. They can't even make the playoffs. Serves rolling into Kosovo, Afghanistan, they can't, they can't knock over Maduro.

They can't knock over massage, zero rings. They need a super team to win. They're all crippled with a mysterious sound wave injury that even the greatest surveillance network in the history of humanity, unimaginable 50 years ago, cannot, we can't even tell us what it is. If only we could get to the bottom of who's behind the cost of prescription drugs or health insurance in this country, is there a way to figure that out? That is, I think the same thing with this, because like this is obviously bullshit, we're

never going to find out who did this because no one was doing anything. But it's like the same thing, it's the same thing I think with like January 6th or like supposed Russian collusion, okay, why did we need the NSA to add that? Yeah. And it seems like there are always balls getting into the goal. Seems like there are always these unforecastable circumstances that happen. And with this, we don't even know who would be doing it. What are we doing here?

Well, yeah, that's the Havana Syndrome Act, soon to be passed into law, like I said, it took them about 30 minutes to do that. Something else is just, as we'll talk about shortly, just an intractable, impossible negotiation where everyone is pretending to be like, oh, like, you know, oh, we're holding out for something better or whatever, we just have to, we just have to strip away, like just a little bit more, got a means test, just a little bit more, because, you know, we've got to be practical here. But the next thing I want to talk about, just in terms of just ludicrously dabbing

on everyone, just dancing in the end zone, is the shit that happened last week as it relates to those thousands of Haitian refugees, like Haitian climate refugees, penned in a fucking cage underneath a highway in Texas. And then, of course, the images of, you know, men on horseback riding them down, like, you know, like animals, just like terrified, fleeing migrants. And then, I'm talking about Jen Saki and the White House's response to this, folks, call her Q Lazarus, because she's saying, goodbye, horses. I mean, this is like, it's hack, like, this is why it's, like, it feel, it's so cliche

to even bring up, because it's like, this could not have happened, like, this is like, to the perfect fantasy of, like, the easiest joke you could have made when Biden became president about what every liberal would do about kids in cages, is that Jen Saki gets out there and she says, yes, we've so we've seen the same images you have. They are horrible. They are not who we are. We hear you. And we are responding to this.

So we just want to be clear. We will not be using horses to do this anymore. No more, no more, no more horses. We're just going to get some Boston Dynamics robots with Gatling guns. The men with guns and cowboy hats and the thousands of like, you know, terrified families cuddling under a highway, they're still going to be there, but you won't have to see images of guys on horseback. Yeah.

You want your tummy doesn't have to hurt. And I saw a former Bernie employee speculate that border patrol ramped up the cruelty to make Biden look bad because they're pro Trump. How did we lose? I mean, the thing is that they probably are going beyond their remit because, yeah, the job is filled by psychos. It's a psycho job that you'd have to be a psycho to want to do. So of course they're going to act like psychos, but that's the job that is built in.

That job is bipartisan. That job is not subject to debate, a militarized border rounding up massive numbers of refugees refusing to let them into the country. That is not anything that any of us get to vote on. What we get to do instead is pick a fantasy narrative about it that makes us feel good, depending on our cultural preferences. So like MAGA people thought that Trump was getting tough on the border and now Biden is doing just absolute open borders, but nothing has actually changed.

And now the liberals were horrified by Trump's concentration camps and now are making excuses and saying, actually, those are technically rains, not whips. It's the same goddamn thing. It cannot change. All you can do is just fucking pick up a pennant and then tell yourself something to either get angry or satisfied, either way, you're having a good time. But you sure aren't addressing any of the actual political questions because those are not debatable.

I don't care if it's like Tom Tancredo or Joe Biden or really AOC for that matter. Everyone is making the exact same fucking calculation, which is we need a certain percentage of these people to flow in to do extremely low cost labor. It's the only way we can keep this going, but too many people get upset if they see too many of them. So a certain percentage of them have to be absolutely brutalized, especially those coming from countries that we are actively ruining, that we are actively fucking destroying. Everyone makes the exact same calculation with this thing.

And the idea that you could have someone who is enthusiastic enough to want to do this job, but there's a nice version of that person is fucking hilarious. Well, I mean, as it regards the question of horses, I mean, the other thing that Jen Sackie said that was absolutely spectacular, was she was like, again, speaking of the images and how upsetting they are, not the actual thing itself, she's like, she said, I cannot imagine a single scenario under which doing something like that would be justified. And I'm like, oh, you mean other than the scenario that is your policy that you're fucking administration that you're a mouthpiece of is literally carrying out like that.

And then like, Matt, like what you're talking about is just like, it's the same policy, but it's just like, it's a question of like, how bad do you feel about it coming at which angle. And you know, a lot of this was justified by saying like, oh, we Jen Sackie herself was like, oh, well, we can't let them into the country because of COVID, which is literally the right wing canard about how illegal immigrants are spreading disease and COVID. But they're like, oh, no, we're, we're protecting them from COVID or you know, like, look, it's, it's just the rules.

Okay. We got to protect everyone. We got to keep them safe from this pandemic. Well, it's like, I don't know, you could just like give them a test or the vaccine that we have plenty of in this country. Yeah. What was the point of us like getting all the vaccines in the fucking world? Yeah.

How much would it cost to just give that to them? And the fact that these are Haitian refugees, I mean, this is like, you know, you know, this is a harbinger of things to come. This is like pure climate refugee thing. I mean, they're not pure climate because like we fucked Haiti over in a billion other ways, including the recent presidential assassination and coup that was carried out there. Yeah. But yeah, like, you know, like the horrible ravages of, you know, hurricanes and natural

disease. Like, I mean, Haiti is like, I mean, what would you do if you were in that country? What the fuck would you do? And then they just like, you get like shoved under a fucking freeway in Texas. And then and then, oh, and then Jen Sack, he feels so bad. He feels so bad that the images of you being, you know, hunted down like a dog is upsetting. It's upsetting to Biden voters. But not upsetting enough.

Yeah. No, I mean, like, no, this week, no, they won't think about it. Yeah. What's upsetting to them is that it makes by it makes the Democrats in Biden look bad. Right. Yeah. That's what they get. And now now on Facebook, their their their asshole uncle or something owns them because

of it. But they're old. Shouldn't they have like some memory? Shouldn't they remember like 2012 when Obama sounded like Trump talking about this shit? Yeah. But he was cool doing it and he was doing it for the right reasons. And you didn't understand the 12th dimensional chest. We it is not emphasized enough that like the QAnon mindset was pioneered under the Obama.

Like it was liberals under Obama who first started making a entertainment out of creating mind palaces where Barack Obama was their best friend and they were strategizing together about how to bring about a utopia. And now everything that he actually did was in some inscrutable hidden way contributing to that. Well, as you think of the people who are like literally getting run down by fucking horses terrified huddling with their families, think about how the people who did that to their country who are in many ways force them out of their country for what they have done

to Haiti over generations. Those people now get to say that they need to keep their jobs but get a federal disability stipend and extra doctors because they have headaches. Yep. Yeah. And actually, I mean, the fear of getting owned that leads perfectly into the next bit of news that I noticed for today's episode that is basically a New York Times article that basically is about how basically only Trump supporters are dying of COVID at the

moment. And like, but listen to this, it says here, since Delta began circulating widely in the US, COVID has exacted a horrific death toll on red America in counties where Donald Trump received at least 70% of the vote. The virus has killed 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June. Jesus Christ. And like, yeah, like, no, I mean, like this is about like looking at the data now about how like just the huge gap in vaccination, like more than race, class, gender, like any

of those things is just about who you voted for or not so much who you voted for. Whether you live in an area that is like super, super Trump supporting, because like even in red states, like counties that are less red have higher vaccination rates and less COVID deaths. Yeah. Like the fucking herd immunity thing actually happens. Yeah. Like vaccine is a fucking thing that does a thing, you know.

In the article, it talks about how in New England, it doesn't eliminate it doesn't eliminate transmission, but it brings it down rapidly. Like, I mean, the article points to like New England as an example of like the vaccination rates are so high that herd immunity has effectively been achieved already. And I mean, the thing I want to talk about in this article is that it brings up like sort of as an explanation for why this is the case, which is like, which is, you know, it surpasses almost like it surpasses like actual politics in a way, and it becomes into the realm of like pure identity politics and culture.

But at the expense of like literally, and people are speculating that this might have an impact on the midterm elections, in that like, in that like the voters that are most wedded to the Republican Party and most motivated to vote against Democrats are self-selecting their own deaths at a astonishingly rapid rate because of it, because they don't want to be owned. And the article brings up what I thought was one of the more fascinating and true articles written recently. It's the, did you see that thing by John Nolte at Breitbart?

Yes. Where he was basically like that. I got to give him credit for trying to, because he's like realistic enough to know that this is an actual issue. But he knows that he can't just, he has to accept the premise and find a way to jujitsu the resentment to trick these people into getting vaccines. I was impressed. So like, yeah, John Nolte like, I mean, his argument is that like he wants Breitbart readers

and he wants people like, you know, who, you know, fully imbibe right wing media and like every, and you know, he believes the exact same thing that they do. But he's just looked at the statistics and found out that in 2021, 99% of everyone who is currently dying of COVID is unvaccinated. Like you can, you can throw out every other statistic about, oh, how effective is the vaccine? Oh, oh, there are still breakout infections or what about the side effects or whatever? It's like, if you were in the hospital gasping out your last breath because of COVID, it

is, it is totally avoidable. Like this is totally unnecessary. Like mass death is what we're talking about here, but he can't really, he has to find a way to. So like essentially he says, what he says in this article is that all efforts by the Biden administration, public health officials, celebrities to encourage people to get vaccinated are a massive attempt to use reverse psychology to kill as many Trump supporters as possible. And what I love about that is like that kind of literal reverse psychology is only used

on and is effective on children exclusive. Yeah. Like, like, like I'm saying, like, I'm not saying reverse psychology is a real phenomenon, but that like that literal thing will just be like, oh, yeah, how about you don't eat your vegetables? Like, you know, like, so, I mean, let's see what he says here in an article this month for Breitbart, the right wing website formerly run by Steve Bannon, John Nolte argued that partisan gap in vaccination rates was part of a liberal plot.

Liberals like Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Anthony Fauci and Howard Stern, I like that Howard Stern has just thrown in there too, have tried so hard to persuade people to get vaccinated because they know that Republican voters will do the opposite of whatever they say. His argument is certainly bizarre given that Democratic politicians have been pluring all Americans to get vaccinated and many Republican politicians have not. But Nolte did offer a glimpse at a creeping political fear among some Republicans. Right now, a countless number of Trump supporters believe they are owning the left by refusing to take a life-saving vaccine, Nolte wrote.

In a country where elections are decided on razor sin margins, does it not benefit one side if their opponents simply drop dead? I mean, he's it's flawless logic and as a way to try to get these people to still be Breitbart readers in two months and not be fucking corpses, it's about as good as you can do with it. But, you know, he has so he has to have this frame of the resentment frame of like you're owning them by getting the vaccine. But he is pointing to a fundamental reality, which is, I don't think that these guys are

doing this, that the Libs and shit are trying to kill Trump supporters. They're trying to get this relatively over with so we can get back to making money and having people do all the bullshit jobs that they need to do all the time to keep this fucking rickety ass collection of Ponzi schemes called an economy going. But everything they do does get absorbed as the opposite. It is the don't put salt in your eyes sketch from kids in the hall. Never put salt in your eyes. Put salt in your eyes.

Always put salt in your eyes. They are radically alienated from all these institutions, from the Democratic Party, from the government broadly construed from the scientific establishment, from the media establishment, from celebrities, anyone thing that they say, anything that they hear from them, they're going to take as a command, as a demand to submit to their regime, which is the and their entire politics are predicated on resisting that. So there is nothing that the Libs or people who think they're part of a disinterested political or medical or media establishment can do to convince them and watching like

the way that the anti-vax phenomenon is played out here and abroad, too, is it really is indicative of how captured all politics is by the parties and by the basis of the two parties and how like no matter what kind of real questions you can have, what kind of like authentic alienation from things like, you know, the medical establishment you might have from living in this country and observing how things work, it can only ever be that feeling, that frustration, that alienation can only ever really end up being funneled into one or another side of a culture work argument. And that so when the vaccine comes, no matter how sincere your alienation from medical establishment

in this country that has absolutely no interest in seeing anybody get better, just wants to make money, and then all of a sudden show up and say, Hey, here's this free vaccine for you. You've never been able to get any medical care your entire life for free. Here's something free for you, and it's for your own good. But I think that there's a reason a lot of people feel that see that and are suspicious of it. But all they can end up doing is being brought into the draft of a larger movement that has

nothing to do with a critique of America's for profit health system. It is a petty bourgeois temper tantrum by by people who have fetishized an idea of their own freedom that is totally narcissistic, and also largely fraudulent, like they don't have any fucking freedom. We don't have any real fucking freedom in this country, but you can decide not to take the vaccine and that that that becomes in your heart the thing that proves that you actually still do have it. And so the an entire political movement orients around this single decision that has nothing

to do with the efficacy of the vaccine. Nobody fucking knows, you know, you're not a fucking doctor, you're just another asshole like the rest of us. You would not apply the same level of scrutiny of skepticism to any other medical question if it didn't have all of this political shit wrapped up in it and all the partisan shit wrapped up into it. And so all of the real alienation from America's criminal institutions of capital exploitation can only be end up being manifested as being a junior partner of a movement of just giant

fucking babies who are at demanding the right to just get to own the lives by choking to that. Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, it's it's a bad joke that like the measure of your, you know, sort of that you are unbound, unbent, unbroken is the will is the extent to which you are willing to risk needlessly suffering and dying. And I need to I must stress the needless part of all of this. No, yeah, we like, I think like some some of the shit like the radio host stuff is morbidly funny.

But I really don't want anyone to die from this, regardless of, I think many of them do want to die. Oh, yeah, under underrated part of the American life just wanting to fucking die. But I yeah, morbidly funny. I find it morbidly funny when like, like one fat six year old's friend will die and he'll be like, Oh, well, like he he like, he was fat. He never exercised. And the guy saying that's also like incredibly fast, bad health, like has diabetes.

It is. No, it's it's it's amazing. Like you can, after that, there's nothing you can do if like your front like four of your friends die and they have the exact same health profile as you and also didn't get the vaccine. And you're like, oh, that's like he didn't I did jumping jacks in 2009. I'm different though. Yeah.

I mean, that's that's how Americans put up with all this shit is that is that they always think that they're that that that they are going to be spared the worst that America can dish out because they're different. Yeah. And at the end of this, the Times article about it, I mean, it does get into this idea of like, how might more conservative Americans be persuaded to get vaccinated? And it goes to say says one intriguing anecdote in follow involves the football team at the University of Mississippi, which is entirely vaccinated, even though the state has one

of the lowest vaccination rates, coaches there emphasize the tangible short term costs of getting COVID rather than the more remote chance of death. The players might have to miss a game and the team might have to forfeit it if they tested positive. A related message is duty. Timothy Carney has written in the Washington Examiner. If Carney had refused to get vaccinated, he explained he would have risked loading more work onto his wife, his colleagues and his partner in teaching Sunday school, as well

as forced children to miss school. And then it goes here in the Atlantic, Olga Kazan has argued that fear remains the best motivation based on her interviews with Tucker Carlson viewers who nonetheless have been vaccinated. And Daniel Darling, an evangelical author, has said that one-on-one conversations encouraging conservatives to talk with their doctors will have more success than any top down campaign. Ready for the turn. Almost no one in this country has a doctor ready to read.

I'm sorry, man. Ready for the turn though. Then again, Darling's message also shows why the vaccination gap exists in the first place. After he wrote an op-ed in USA Today about his decision to get vaccinated, Darling's employer, NRB, an association of Christian broadcasters fired him. Yeah, what can you do? What can you do? So moving on to the next sad and embarrassing display, like related to the Havana syndrome

relief act, the other thing that was just like absolutely just shitting over everyone this week was all the debate over should we continue to fund Israel's fucking Iron Dome self, quote unquote, self-defense system to the tune of a billion dollars as part of our budget negotiations. And of course, AOC crying over the fact that she voted present instead of no. I mean, what a fucking humiliating spectacle this all is, because it's like that one billion dollars is on top of all the other money we already give to Israel to protect themselves from firecrackers.

And it's just like, we cannot do the barest amount. The barest amount to even fill potholes for any American in this country without also being like, oh, Israel's worried about the rockets. They need the money for the dome, they've got to have the dome. And then I don't know, like, and then what do you make that I'm like, like AOC crying over this? It's like, who are you? Jordan Peterson?

I mean, fuck off. This is, this is politics here. You can't let people see you cry. And also it's just like, why did she vote present anyway? Like the bill was going to pass regardless. I mean, I don't know why she did it, but the thing is, though, is that the crying is the politics. Yeah.

Like, yo, I look at how sad this is making me that I have to do this, don't you feel sped for me, and then you're not supposed to even think about what it's what the actual issue was. Like, this is the new, this is the new crying based political strategy for avoiding any real accountability from voters by just making them feel too bad for you to say anything about anything you do. Did you, I mean, like I thought that, but then I saw her amazing statement on this. Did you see?

I did. It was baffling. I mean, her reasoning for voting president crying is that communities didn't have enough time to be consulted about this. There's that word. I don't know what community I don't know how like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why even say that? Communities.

Yeah. Yeah. So Pelosi goes up to her, she immediately starts bursting into tears and I have to say credit decay hive, AOC equals always on camera, hilarious. I mean, you know, when you're right, you're right. But immediately starts crying, votes present, Jamal Blum votes yes, Taleb Omar vote no. Then like within hours, she's like, I see you. I hear you.

If you think I'm a coward, I understand. But what happened was, I was shit. I came to the house four years ago to try to be the best person that I wanted to be. I didn't have, I was told that I wouldn't have time to talk to communities about this. That's the main thrust of what I got of her like 12 paragraph statement. What in the world are you talking about? What community in America gives a fuck about Israel's iron dome missile defense system? Or like, or even knows about it to begin with?

This doesn't even prevent Israel. Like, do people think the iron dome goes out of business if we don't pass this? Israel has a GDP of nearly half a trillion dollars. They could sell Molly for one afternoon and fully fund this fucking thing. What community are you fucking talking about? Thomas Massey, that's psycho was like, no, why can't you do that? What the fuck is the point then? Communities.

If it takes that little like, okay, I heard, you know, there were rumors that it was like, oh, we'll redistrict you if you vote now. Okay. Then why vote present? What the fuck's going on here? Yeah, whole things. Very odd. But just the fact that like, this billion dollar iron dome gift certificate is part of these

negotiations about like, just simply like infrastructure in America or passing a budget is like, what a fucking insult once again, what an insult to every actual American, every fucking, like every, sorry, tax paying citizen of this country, like what the fuck? They don't need this shit. They can fund it themselves. And then like, oh, like, like this is the negotiating point. Like I said, to lower prescription drug prices, even by a fraction is impossible to do. That's impossible to do.

But just giving another billion dollars to Israel is like, oh, that is sacrosanct. Nobody can, you can't even vote no against that. No, they're, yeah. And it will, I mean, if you vote yes on this, if you crumble like AOC did, then nothing's ever going to be fucking enough for these people. Do you think Israel is a fucking poor country? This is them, they're not asking for a billion dollars for this, which by the way, does not just encompass the iron dome.

They're asking for it, not because they're out of money. They can't issue bonds. They can't, they can't add a one time special tax on Trilby hats for women. They're, they're doing it for the same reason that the CIA is going to Congress and asking for money for Morgan wants, because they want to dab on you. They want to see you on the ground with your nose pressed into the pavement and do the fucking T pose over you. And what a day O.C. did.

She fucking cried. This was going to pass anyway. There is no real mainstream position in electoral politics that is even not even like anti Zionist just, you know, let them pay for it themselves. That's one thing is three over three billion dollars a year, not enough. There's nothing like that. It's just this. It's just, sorry.

Just like any time you want to spend even a dime of like a public money on the American public. It's like, no, too much, too much. Oh, everything has to be offset. Oh, we need to meet and test everything. I'm just worried about the price tag on this, but you know, I'll fucking just, just a gift. It's just an Amazon gift certificate for Israel to like continue their unneeded, totally spurious fucking self-defense system that probably doesn't work anyway.

And by the way, the people defending it saying it saves Israel and Palestinian lives. Really good. I really love to hear that. Yeah. If they don't have the dome, then they're going to have to just go into Gaza and kill people there. Imagine if they did that. Oh, yeah.

They'd feel bad. They'd have to make more movies about how bad it makes them feel. And then it's just like people just living in misery. You go to a place like LA or San Francisco, just people living outside. And it seems like every three months, Israel's like, we need $450 million for a rave for veterans. And we're like, okay. There you go.

The dabbing on us will continue until morale improves. I think that's basically what's going on here. All right. Moving on. Last thing to talk about today, this is a fun one. And this is a, I guess, sort of a follow-up on an episode we did years ago. Episode 230, a colossal wreck. Matt, do you remember when you and I went to Ozzy Fest?

Oh, how could I forget? Okay. This is about Ozzy Media. This is an insane, I can't even, I'm just going to go into this. I just need to read this article. This past winter, Goldman Sachs was closing in on a $40 million investment in Ozzy, a digital media company founded in 2013. And there seemed to be a lot of reasons to do the deal.

Ozzy boasted of a large audience for its general interest website, its newsletters and its videos. And the company had a charismatic chief executive, Carlos Watson, a one-time cable news anchor who had worked at Goldman Sachs early in his career. And crucially, Ozzy said it had a great relationship with YouTube where many of its videos attracted more than a million views. That's what the Zoom video conference on February 2nd that Ozzy arranged between the Goldman Sachs asset management division and YouTube was supposed to be about.

The scheduled participants included Alex Piper, the head of unscripted programming for YouTube originals. He was running late and apologized to the Goldman Sachs team, saying he'd had trouble logging on to Zoom. And he suggested that the meeting be moved to a conference call, according to four people who were briefed on the meeting, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal details of a private discussion. Once everyone had made the switch to an old-fashioned conference call, the guests told the bankers

what they had been wanting to hear, that Ozzy was a great success on YouTube, racking up significant views and ad dollars, and that Mr. Watson was as good a leader as he seemed to be. As he spoke, however, the man's voice began to sound strange to the Goldman Sachs team. As though it might have been digitally altered, the four people said, after the meeting, someone on the Goldman Sachs side reached out to Mr. Piper, not through the Gmail address that Mr. Watson had provided before the meeting, but through Mr. Piper's assistant at YouTube. That's when things got weird.

A confused Mr. Piper told the Goldman Sachs investor that he had never spoken with her before. Someone else, it seemed, had been playing the part of Mr. Piper on the call with Ozzy. When YouTube learned that someone had apparently impersonated one of their executives at a business meeting, its security team started an investigation. The company confirmed to me, the inquiry didn't get far before a name emerged. In days, Mr. Watson had apologized profusely to Goldman Sachs, saying the voice on the call belonged to Samir Rao, the co-founder and chief operating officer of Ozzy, according

to the four people. In his apology to Goldman Sachs and an email to me on Friday, Mr. Watson attributed the incident to a mental health crisis and shared what he said were details of Mr. Rao's diagnosis. Samir is a valued colleague and a close friend, Mr. Watson said. I'm proud that we stood by him while he struggled and we're all glad to see him thriving now. I mean, very convenient that his mental health crisis coincided with defrauding Goldman Sachs investors by claiming to have way higher YouTube views than Ozzy has any business claiming. Yeah, a lot of their views, a lot of their videos have like zero views, not even low

numbers, like none. Yeah, like, he had a mental health crisis that led him to impersonate a YouTube executive and just flatly commit fraud to a slate of Goldman Sachs investors about, yeah, our Carlos Watson digital one-on-one interviews, yeah, they have millions of views on YouTube. Also, it's like he did it himself, he just went rogue with it, nobody else knew, Carlos was not aware. This doesn't sound like a mental health, I mean, it is mental, but it sounds really more like a business crisis because they are trying to continue this ridiculous house of

cards based on totally fraudulent YouTube views to get $40 million from Goldman Sachs because I read another article about Carlos Watson was trying to hire people by telling them that they're like, what is Ozzy? And he just says, it's like, it's the Uber of media, and they're like, what does that mean? Means you lose $50 billion. And it's just here in the Times article about this, it says, Ozzy was born in 2013 as a Gen X dream of what millennial media ought to be, earnest, policy-focused, inclusive,

slickly sans serif, other ventures of the same era, mic infusion, projected similar images. By the way, where are mic infusion now? Mic infusion never had the bright idea to pretend to be someone else on a conference call. On the road to a comeback, I think 2022 is going to be the year of mic. I think everyone's going to be sharing mic articles. Yeah, but this is just a perfect example of how now all of our wellness, all of language, all of our new understanding of and sensitivity towards mental health issues is just going

to be weaponized by the biggest psychos on earth. These guys got caught just dying to do massive fraud and it's like, I'm sorry, our CFO has imposter syndrome. And then nobody investigated this. Like nobody called the FCC or anything. We're like massive, obvious fraud because the word of Ozzy, this guy was having a breakdown and they're like, good enough for us. I think this will be fully an institutional process in a few years.

I feel like now we're making fun of it, but in 10 years, the thing you do if you have a tech company that loses $700 million a day is you go to the Federal Reserve and you're like, I have BPD and they give you a 0% interest rate loan of $70 billion because it's like, how are we going to keep this thing running? They say it can never stop. We can never stop any component. So that's the only thing. The only thing we can do is just zero interest rate loans for people suffering from unreality

issues. It says here, the site generated some buzz and Mr. Watson said it had the traffic to match. In a 2019 news release, the company said it had 50 million monthly unique users. Now, I don't know, I mean, if Goldman Sachs had they reached out to Matt and I, we could have just told them there's no way that's true based on what we saw at Ozzy Fest. There is no way 50 million unique users are fucking logging in to hear Alex Rodriguez's thoughts on sports entrepreneurship.

It also says in 2017, BuzzFeed News reported that Ozzy had been among the publishers buying web traffic from quote, low quality sources, companies using systems that caused articles to pop up under a reader's browser without the reader's knowledge. Ozzy said it had been buying the traffic to build its email lists and had not built advertisers for those views. I mean, like, yeah, they were doing Ozzy, they were buying the traffic that you get at the bottom of other news articles that they're like. It's like a picture of some weird like plant that's like gushing, that looks like a gusher

and they're like, this weird thing cures cancer. Yeah, everything is Theranos. Every single media company, every tech company, it's all, everyone is Elizabeth Holmes. Here's my favorite part of it though, it says, even as it has struggled to build a digital audience, however, Ozzy has had success offline with events including Ozzy Fest, a semi-regular festival of comedy, music and talks. Wait, comedy? Hold on a minute.

I need a citation on that. It was pretty funny when Hillary came out dressed in a fucking flowing calf tan like Marlon Brando in Island of Dr. Moreau, but I don't think it was a lot of intentional humor. It says here, yeah, a semi-regular festival of comedy, music and talks, which earned rave reviews from podcasters Matt Christman and Will Menaker who said of Ozzy Fest, quote, it's a horrible place to do LSD. Yeah, no, I mean, like I do consider that one of Ozzy Fest's main accomplishments in

that they almost caused Matt to leave the country and start a suicide cult. It says, Ozzy has closed a series of production deals of the kind that other new media companies crave. These deals include Third Rail with Ozzy, a PBS discussion series in 2017 hosted by Mr. Watson and Defining Moments, a 2020 interview series on Hulu, this is the exact same show that has profiled, check this out, the musician John Legend, the investor Mark Cuban and the actress Jamila Jamil. Who the fuck is why I'm sorry, like no insult to John Legend.

I mean, maybe he's done some great hooks on some songs that like, who the fuck is watching a John Legend interview? If you walked in on a family member watching a John Legend interview, that's the same as if they started giving their possessions away. That's something you do before you kill yourself. I'm sorry, man. Yeah. Like, what's an interesting question you could ask John Legend?

What was it like voting in the midterms? Who fucking gives a shit? Jamila Jamil might be kind of interesting if you're like, how many diseases have you had? That would be, I would like to hear her talk about her Havana syndrome. That'd be interesting. Yeah. Congress should give her money.

Yeah. This is at the end of the article, though, I mean, it does follow up on the legal ramifications of this. It says here, Goldman Sachs took no further action after the call with the Ozzy executive who had apparently impersonated the YouTube executive. I mean, what? Because they know. Yeah.

You have to keep this shit moving. This is like, I would say, conservative estimate, 98% of companies in America are this 98%. Most companies are like a company that like provides like emergency financing for like when you buy a Casper mattress and they make $11,000 every seven years. And they employ like 7,000 people and somehow it will like, it will cause the panic of 1893 if they go out of business. That's like every company left in that and weapons manufacturers. Those are like the two fucking things we have in the worst movies of all time.

Goldman Sachs has determined that 98% of all tech company CEOs are actually three small children standing on each other's shoulders in a large trench coat. I mean, like this is why no one should have gone to jail for PPP loans. Like this is just, I mean, this is the type of shit we do. There was that YouTube, there's this YouTuber guy who's like done the scams before that he's gone from prison and he's, he's like going to get locked up for doing $30 million in PPP loans. And it's like, there is no difference.

Yeah. Listen to this though. It says he had more subscribers than Ozzy. Listen to this though. It says not only are Goldman Sachs not taking any further action on this. It says the security team at Google, which owns YouTube, determined a crime may have been committed. Google has alerted the Federal Bureau of Investigation, two people with knowledge of the matter said.

Goldman Sachs then received an inquiry from federal law enforcement officials. One person with knowledge of that inquiry said, Mr. Watson said on Friday that Ozzy had not been contacted by investigators. Mr. Piper declined through YouTube official to comment. So, and the FBI San Francisco field office said in email that it would not confirm or deny the existence of an investigation. Like I mean, I'm sure they're looking into this, like don't hold your breath that anyone's going to go to jail over this.

Yeah. I wonder what's going to happen. They're going to go to Goldman Sachs. The worst case scenario, they pay a fine that accounts to like one day of business at the San Francisco training desk and then they'll like go to whatever flat top went to their office and be like, Hey, you dumb Mormon fuck, do you want like more money than you've ever seen in your life in 10 years? Listen to this.

The president of the Ford Foundation, Mr. Walker said in an email that he had confidence in Ozzy. We need new media companies to challenge the status quo, shake things up and go deep on the issues that matter most. He said, I mean, yeah, like that's like, what did John Legend have for lunch today? Things like that. He said, I feel, I feel bad for Doug Walker here. Like the nostalgia critic Doug Walker could have been a millionaire.

Like he did, like he was doing Ozzy type metrics in like 2013 or whatever. He could have like in this era of the economy, he just had to wait like five more years and then like, I need $7 billion. I just think it's got to come down to the fact that the Carlos Watson has been to the right Adrena Chrome parties because the chairman of Ozzy is like the fucking co-owner of the bucks. A lot of the money for Ozzy initially came from Steve Jobs's ex-wife. He knows where the bodies are buried literally.

Yeah. Yeah. If you can get Hillary Clinton to come to your stupid bullshit, nothing's really going to happen to you. That's why like it makes me sad. Like I love, you know, my favorite guy of all time, Aubrey McLendon. Yes. That's the last billionaire in America that will kill himself.

Yeah. Yeah. There's no more consequences. It's just not, it's not priced in. Wrong place, wrong time. Aubrey McLendon, for people who don't know, he was a natural gas guy who was a big, big funder behind the like Swift boat veterans for truth in 2004 thing, like big Republican donor.

He got, they were looking into his company Chesapeake Energy because of like embezzling and like using company funds to do all this shit and the company was having financial troubles. And I was, some people think this was an accident. I think he killed himself by driving his Ferrari into a brick wall at 120 miles an hour, which is awesomeness. Smaller. The coolest way anyone's ever killed themselves, like respect, but that's never, like that's

never, nothing bad will ever happen to these people again. No. So like, if you get to where Aubrey McLendon does, you're not going to kill yourself. You're never going to be in that situation ever. Just to close out the article here, the Mr. Walker of the Ford Foundation, not the Nostalgia Critic says, in an increasingly diverse world, it's no coincidence that a company with co-founders of black and Indian descent would be so successful. I mean, it's not successful.

The company is not successful. Every metric that you could accurately judge these by is terrible. This country is no different than Mike and Fusion, but like, listen to this last paragraph. And Ozzie did not allow the episode to curb its fundraising efforts. In April, two months after Goldman Sachs walked away, the company raised another round of financing, two people familiar with the transaction said, it's like, I think it's what you said, everything is Theranos now. And I think rather than Elizabeth Holmes, Elizabeth Holmes is of the future, will not

be prosecuted. It's the people that point out that like their technology doesn't work or is fraudulent. Those are the people that are going to end up getting FBI investigations. Yeah. Are they going to get sued into indigency for violating an NDA or whatever? Keep pointing out the emperor's clothes aren't there is going to get fucking smacked just so that we can keep pushing this shit through the tube. It's just like it is clear from this article, like anyone who looks at it should be able

to tell that like all of their metrics are complete bullshit, that there is no way they have anything close to a millions of views on YouTube or like millions of unique subscribers or any of that shit. But it's just like, oh, no, they're like, no, next round of investing secured. That's locked up. They fail the mom's friend test. That's the most important thing for liberal media. If your mom's friend says it sends you something from some bullshit company, like, you know

that people are reading it. My mom's friend has never sent me something from Ozzy ever in my life. But no, those are the two takeaways. If you want healthcare, you need to join the CIA or like start a company like this. There was, there were in my neighborhood, there were some billboards for Carlos Watson's YouTube show, which is part of the Ozzy platform. And it's the big, the big quote was the internet's most diverse talk show. I think, I think Kamstar should, that cannot be true.

I should, I think I took a picture at some point, but yeah, it was just Carlos Watson and just said the most, yeah, like the most diverse talk show, I remember it distinctly saying that. Diverse, you guys like diversity, don't you, you fucking pigs, right? Yeah, yeah. Our advice to listeners is to drink 13 Bud heavies, depending on your weight. Take like some Adderall that's been in like a drawer at your mom's house for seven years and write down 10 ideas.

Question number nine, when you run out of ideas, make an LLC. That's no, and like your company will never fucking make money. It will never turn a profit ever, but you will be the most important thing, which is part of the economy. Well, there we go. I'm looking forward to Ozzy Fest 2022. I'll be on ketamine this time. I think I'm going to go to the booth where Dennis Ross is interviewing Chris Tucker.

I'm going to pour up a double cup. All right. Well, I think that just about wraps it up for today, but before we go out, I'm throwing it to producer Chris for a patented chopper plug. Hey, everyone. This is actually a great transition because unlike fake made up, not real YouTube views, I'm making one of my twice yearly pitches for real, organic, fan driven YouTube views and asking you to subscribe to the YouTube channel, youtube.com slash chapeau trap house.

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