Chapo Trap House - 590 - ThankMedical feat. Andrew Hudson (1/3/22)

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

We’re joined by friend of the show, Episode 1’s own Andrew Hudson, to discuss his experiences as an ICU nurse throughout the COVID pandemic, and why he decided to quit. We also discuss Rod Dreher�...��s investigation into homosexuality in the far right movement, and Jair Bolsonaro’s return to the hospital. Listen to Episode 1 here: https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631 And subscribe here: https://www.patreon.com/e1podcast/posts If you want to check out Andrew’s original videos on why he quit the ICU, they’re on his twitter here: https://twitter.com/intellegint/status/1473357015564963840

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Greetings friends, it's Chapo, Monday, January 3rd, 2022. We are back in the New Year's group. Gentlemen, how was your New Year's? I mean, it doesn't matter if you're, you know, you're downtown, you're at Times Square where everyone wants to be, you're listening to Derex Bentley or Encommon, or if you're just, you're just playing Mario Kart and drinking some Blue Moons, but you put on some suits because it's New Year's, it's still New Year's. Another year, another year gone, another year ahead of us.
Starting point is 00:01:09 I think it's going to be a good one. And joining us for today's program is a friend of the show from the Episode 1 podcast. It's Andrew Hudson in the trap, Andrew, welcome. Thank you for having me, boys. It's going to be here. I was in Detroit for New Year's for my oldest brother's wedding. Congratulations. And it was wonderful.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Thank you. It looked great. Yeah, I think weddings are kind of just, you know, easy swag. Yeah, it's pre-made swag. Like they even pick out an outfit for you. If you're friends with the right people at the wedding, they make a swag outfit for you unless you're a girl and then they take your swag away. Were all the Hudson men, groomsmen for this event?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Only two of us. Oh man. Well, not like to be the other one. Because he has friends as well. He has friends. So it was not too big, but it was big enough, so it was good. But I didn't, you know, I didn't get laid. I didn't kiss anyone.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Everyone said I have to fucking leave the wedding early and they kicked me out. I said I was a pussy. They ripped my bow tie off, but otherwise. Sound, a success, a wonderful starting gun for this wonderful new year that we're all going to experience. But Andrew, we wanted to get you on the show because a few weeks ago, before the new year, you posted a video regarding you quitting your job. And I thought it was very interesting and moving video, but for those of you who don't
Starting point is 00:02:40 know, Andrew Hudson is not just the man of a thousand characters on the E1 podcast. He is also a nurse, or we're a nurse. I'm still a nurse. I just don't work at the hospital. You didn't have to throw your license at your boss, like throw on his desk, like, you know. My nurse made it. Yeah. She was like, I want your badge.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I mean, normally they do ask for your badge, so you can't like go back to the hospital and sneak and be like, oh, I'm just going to go into the pictures and take a wee bit of fentanyl, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and you know, just have a good time. They make you turn in your feelers. You can't let a civilian have those. I would love to see someone wearing feelers as a fucking job. I think I'm going to start wearing chunky feelers so people think I'm a healthcare hero.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Kirkland Court Classics. Just walking around those white on whites all the time. Well, I mean, before we get into it, though, I think we should take this moment to thank medical. Thank medical, the healthcare hero, the medical goat, bless medical, Andrew Hudson. But I mean, I guess like, so leading up to your decision to leave your job, I mean, you were a nurse, a frontline healthcare worker during the height of COVID, and I'm just wondering if you could, I don't know, just share a little bit about what that was like or maybe what
Starting point is 00:03:59 people don't know or the people who are always, people are always invoking healthcare heroes, right? Yeah. Claps and pans together. Yeah, they loved it. They loved us last year. And then this year, they all wanted to kill us. It was kind of flip-flop, like, what were we supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:04:15 But yeah, I was working in Detroit. I worked at a hospital in Detroit last year when COVID started. And it was much bigger. It was like a 600-bed hospital. The one I just left was like 128 beds, so significantly smaller. But I worked on a cardiac step-down unit in Detroit. So it's higher acuity than a normal med-search floor, but people are a little bit more sick. So you'd have like four patients, which is usually what we'd get.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Sometimes I'd have five. But during COVID, when it first started in March last year, that whole hospital for like three months was all COVID. There was like two units out of those 600 beds that were just like a clean unit. And even those were not clean. They had slept through. So we had like just full beds, everyone was just COVID, and it was just like kind of the wild west at the time, because I'm reusing gowns for shifts or like using the same gown
Starting point is 00:05:15 for the whole shift for every patient. If I actually got an N95, I'd have to use that for like three shifts in a row, you know? So we're all like rashing our gear. But even before that, like in March when it started, we were like wearing our masks and stuff, and their management and administration would be like, don't wear the masks in the hallway. We don't care people, we're like, fuck you, no, we're going to wear our masks. And then it had to be like, you know, obviously we have to wear them all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:41 There's a lot of foot flopping like that, and it'd be like, by the day, by the hour. So we were like, we don't even know what we're supposed to do. We don't know what our policies are. Doctors would be afraid to come to the units. So I would just call them and tell them what I wanted and what I needed, and just like boss around all these residents, because they weren't coming up there. I was still giving people plaque when they'll then plaque when on zinc, we're just on shit at the wall and see even if it's stuck.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So I think people thought that we weren't like using that at all, but we did. Because we were like, well, we'll see, you know, we got to see if something works. How did the experience of like, how did your job change like pre and post vaccinations being available? Well, I've been, I got vaccinated last December. I was the first person on my unit to get it. And I had some coworkers, a lot of them were like, you're going to get it. And I was like, yeah, I mean, we're going to have to all get it eventually.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I will say, I wanted to talk about that just for a second, because with vaccines, obviously nurses, we have to get a shitload of shots of vaccines just to get into a nursing program. So we all get shots, but before the COVID vaccines, the quickest one that was made was for months. And that took about four years. So we didn't expect there to be one last year at all. But then there is the factors of, I mean, everyone focused all the manpower and resources on that research and getting them made.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's one, all these big, you know, firm companies being like, we want to be the ones to get this shit made. And then also, I had the science explained to me and I was like, oh, okay, well, it makes sense. So, but I understood kind of last December, even nurses being like, I don't know, like I'm kind of skeptical, like, is this, is this just Pfizer, you know, getting a big grip of money? Like, we have reasons to not trust Pfizer.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And I'm not like saying that as like, miss, like, but they've had their issues in the past. We all know this, like pharmaceutical companies aren't exactly like fully transparent with the shit they do. So at that time, I kind of understood my coworkers being skeptical, but I was like, I mean, I'll be the guinea pig. And I was fine, like both shots did nothing to me, but it was, there was a lot of hesitation amongst nurses, but then everyone eventually got them.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So the stuff about losing staff, because all these nurses are secretly knocking the vaccination is just, it's bullshit. It's all made up. It seemed like with hospitals that was like way overblown, like definitely some nurses got fired, but it wasn't like, it wasn't worth it to a lot of people to be like, no, I'm going to stand out. It was like, if they're quitting, they were using that as an excuse because they're just sick of, you know, being overworked and underpaid.
Starting point is 00:08:18 So with the vaccinations, I worked this year, obviously in the ICU now. So I had a lot of people ventilated and people that died and a lot of them were not vaccinated. The ones that were vaccinated that actually ended up in the ICU usually did okay. And I wouldn't even have them intubated. I remember one patient of mine, he was vaccinated and in ICU, but he was on bio meds, which suppress your immune system because he had MS. So it hit him a little bit harder, but he was just on a BiPAP mask, which is just like a CPAP, but it covers the mouth too.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And that's usually the step before the intubation. So there's like a bunch of different ways we give oxygen and then it's BiPAP and then intubation. And that guy never got intubated. He did okay. What do you make? I mean, I've been seeing this line crop up a lot recently. And it's the idea that all the people that are still dying of COVID, it's not because
Starting point is 00:09:14 they're unvaccinated, it's because they're fat and that the real problem is fat people in America and not vaccinated or unvaccinated. Well, if you look at the data, no, I don't know. I mean, granted, a lot of people that I had died and didn't do well that were ventilated were big. There are big people, people that were 30, 34, 35 dying and they're bigger. I don't know if that was a correlation because they do have comorbidities, but I had bigger people that were vaccinated and they did okay.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So I don't know. I think it's another excuse. They've just been like, oh, well, if you're not fat, I'm like, well, also a lot of Americans are fat. Yeah. That's exactly it. When they're like, if you look at it, it's like only affecting fat people, but you could arguably say that's like three quarters of the country.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Right. Yeah. If it's something that is only affecting fat people, you might say, might as well just be saying this is only affecting America. I want to ask all, I want to ask all those people define fat because the definition of obesity is pretty, I mean, someone will be considered obese and you go in the room and they're like, oh, this person is small, they're tiny, but they're overweight for their being like, it's the BMI stuff is kind of annoying.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I had a rather unpleasant awakening about that when I got the vaccine. Yeah. But it's going to affect the data, you know, because people like, oh, these BMIs, these BMIs, it's like, that's a whole different thing. I don't, I don't know, I'm not a, I'm not a scientist, but if someone, so think about how someone is big, right? And I would have patients, I've had patients that are 730 pounds, those people are hard to move from one, when they're ventilated and intubated, they're restrained and they're
Starting point is 00:11:01 just laying there and we'd have to, a lot of the COVID patients were proning them so they're on their belly and then we have to swing them. Also flip them to a different position, a certain amount of times per shift. If they're just laying there and then they're prone and they're that big, yeah, it's going to be harder for their body to recover from everything. They can't get them up and walk them around and prevent like pneumonia and all those things that we normally can do because they just lay there and they're on, with these bigger people especially, they're on, you know, fentanyl, they're on propofol, they're on Versed, which
Starting point is 00:11:33 is a benzodiazepine. I'm maxing them out on these at the max rates and they're still waking up and trying to extubate themselves, so we throw on a ketamine drip. So that's four sedatives they're on, some of them are on multiple vasopressors, which keep the blood pressure up. If one of those stops, the blood pressure will tank, they're going to code and die. So you're constantly going in that room and changing those bags out because a max out rate, a bag of fentanyl is going to be like 50 ml's and when they're going at like 25
Starting point is 00:12:03 ml's per hour or more, that's really rapid. So if one of those drugs runs out and they start waking up, you know, that's why everyone who is intubated is restrained, so they can't go whoop, or we just paralyze them. So we put a paralytic on and then that helps a lot of people because their body kind of relaxes, it lets their lungs kind of stop resisting and they would do better with the paralytic for a little bit and then once they get a little bit better, we can take out the paralytic and then hopefully wean them off of the sedation and exubate them and move them to something like a bipap or even better, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, it seems like, it seems like, like I definitely believe that people with like, you know, severe weight problems would have a tougher go of this. I mean, that, you know, seems obvious, but again, it's like, it's a stupid argument for not caring about it because it's so many Americans, but it seems like, I mean, I mean, it's obviously like moving them. That's a pretty obvious problem that I don't think a lot of people would think about. Yeah, anyone who's intubated is not moving. So it's like, I don't really know what to think and we've had patients, I've had people,
Starting point is 00:13:11 their last words before they die was, I don't have COVID or give me the vaccine a little too late. Yeah, those are the ones that don't go to Valhalla. You don't get the handsome hamburger party if you ask for a vaccine right before you die. Nope. They have Catholic pills themselves, guaranteed health. I like pull out a vaccine, like a syringe, I'm like, all right, you're a bitch.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You know that, right? Yeah. I'll save your life right now with this vaccine. That's the equivalent of being a Jew with a JD, but didn't pass the bar. But yeah, it seems like, I mean, for like a much bigger person, I mean, this is just like an extremely lay person's interpretation, but to COVID, definitely like it puts a lot of stress on your organs. But I also, I don't know, I noticed a lot of like cops dying of it and cops like outside
Starting point is 00:14:01 of the high risk age range. Well, cops are notoriously healthy. So it's so strange. Right. Well, they do the healthiest thing, which is they take anabolic steroids and don't work out. And it just like, it made me think like, they're probably like, even if they're not like, you know, morbidly obese or like, you know, high, no, they don't have to be, they don't have
Starting point is 00:14:20 to be massive. Right. So what diabetes is going to have as hard time fighting this as opposed to someone who doesn't have diabetes. And people will go in with all these things wrong with them that they didn't even know they had before COVID, then they get hospitalized because of COVID and it's like, oh, shit. Now you have all these other things. You see a lot of patients, you know, the COVID puts them in the hospital, but they're staying
Starting point is 00:14:45 longer because these other factors are getting affected and they're going to start declining and eventually going to like multi organ failure, you know, what it's like, even if they didn't have COVID, these are unhealthy people because they're Americans. Yeah. No, that, yeah. My issue with COVID and I've said this before is we had, we've been in a health crisis long before COVID. When I was working in Detroit, I'm taking care of, you know, most of my patients were black
Starting point is 00:15:15 and a lot of them are, you know, poor, have diabetes, which they're more likely to get it, you know, being black because of what we've done to them and other minorities in this country. So you have a guy who's 32 and he has no legs and he's missing multiple fingers because he has diabetes and he can't control it. Someone that has insurance and a decent job has a difficult time with diabetes. My dad is a nurse practitioner and lost a toe this year because he ignored a scrape on his toe too long and he should, he knows better and he should, and he has the resources.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Think about being a young black person in Detroit who has no resources, no way to get to appointments. They don't have a way to get their insulin all, all these things that go into that complex disease are going to affect these things and they're going to eventually have heart failure, their kidneys are going to go and diabetes. Once it gets to a certain point, it takes everything and you die. Those people are, they would die young and it would be like heart breaking for me. I was like, like, what are we doing, you know, and it comes back to, you know, obviously
Starting point is 00:16:23 needing universal healthcare and all this other stuff. So it's, it's definitely like COVID is just like the catalyst for so much to me. It was just the same thing with the staffing problems. It's just the catalyst, like the straw that broke the camel's back. Yeah, something, something really interesting that you said to me earlier last year around kind of this time last year was that the feeling you got, like having worked in Detroit and then in other places was that you felt like it was as if we lost a war, but the war had been lost decades ago and you were still in the consequences of it.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Like because we make money off of it still, right? It's like, it's literally like Afghanistan. Yeah, like everything you just talked about with like the consequences of like food deserts of like a lack of health infrastructure. Cemetery health issues are like a huge problem. Yeah. What are you going to tell? Are you going to tell some poor black mom who's raising multiple kids alone, works three
Starting point is 00:17:21 jobs? Oh, you should garden. Get the fuck out of here. She's going to buy her kids McDoubles because they're cheap and they taste good because everyone loves McDonald's. And then that's all they're going to want to eat because that's what they're used to and that's what they know and that's what's available, I love McDonald's. So if like that's all I'm going to want, you do that for decades and decades and decades
Starting point is 00:17:41 and we've been doing this obviously for hundreds of years to minorities. I mean, Native Americans, Hispanics, they all have, they're more likely to have like cardiac issues and a number of other things compared to, you know, like other ethnic groups. And it's because of that we've displaced them and put them in poverty and they have to eat crap that's easy to make or easy to get and it tastes good. That's just like, I mean, one of the few things that's wrong. But I think that's what's what has happened is we've done this to them and no one cares about it.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. But it's something you just said before that about how people would come in and have this problem that they've had for decades and not realize it. It's another thing. Like very few Americans now have like a family doctor that they see like every three months or even once a year. And so, yeah, it seems like you probably saw a lot of people who just add to it. I don't even have health insurance right now.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. You know? And Andrew, to your point about like the disparity and health outcomes and like divided by race in this country, I learned a astonishing fact the other day that I like, I had to look, I didn't believe it, but black people in America have a higher rate of mortality from skin cancer than white people do. And I was like, I wasn't even aware about people who've got skin cancer, which is like the most treatable form of cancer.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But it's just a matter of like, yet not having access to a doctor to just take a look at this. Yeah. And then it'll like metastasize and it'll get to the point where it is fatal, which is usually not the case in like, you know, most skin cancers that, you know, I was aware of or whatever. But yeah. But like all these things like, I mean, talking about COVID in particular, like everyone
Starting point is 00:19:24 has complaints or the fixes or things that like, you know, should or could have been done. But look, to me, it just seems like overall, like the only real solution to any of this is a national healthcare system. And it should have been done 30 years ago. Right. And like, you know, I mean, if we could do it now, like maybe it'll save us like from the next pandemic, but like, it's just like the perfect confluence of like the inability
Starting point is 00:19:50 of this country's health and political and social infrastructure to deal with any kind of collective problem, like a respiratory spread viral pandemic. We had no plan. I knew last March, I told my coworkers in Detroit, I said, if we can't get gear that we need, if I can't get a mask to prevent myself from spreading this to coworkers or other patients while I'm taking care of a patient who I actively know as COVID, I know they have COVID and they're dying in front of me. If I can't get my gear, then what's the point of all the other, you know, things put into
Starting point is 00:20:22 place lockdowns and mask may days? What was the point if we can't do it like right there on that? At the tip of the spear. It made no sense to me. Yeah. Like either Trump should have done like a serious like two week martial law lockdown, but who knows that probably wouldn't have even worked either. But that's like the degree they would have had to go to for us to not be fucked.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But after that, I was like, no, we're screwed. And we are all like over everything at that point, or by like the summer, because if they're not helping us, then we're all just sucked if they don't care about us. And that's kind of frustrating. The past two years is you have people that I'm not going after other workers and stuff because it sucks that people have to work in grocery stores with all this shit going on. But people would be like, oh yeah, I know how you feel.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I have to work in this. I have to work in that. I was like, it's not the same. It's not close to me because they're like, well, these customers don't wear masks. I'm like, my patients have COVID don't wear masks. Like what am I supposed to say? But they would be like, oh yeah, it's so scary. I was like, you're not seeing the people die.
Starting point is 00:21:20 You're not watching them die. You're not bagging people up every night or multiple times a night. People don't understand that these patients, when they die, I have to call the coroner and give them a full rundown of the pathology and everything that was going on with them and the cause of death. And then I have to call donor alliance, which is the donation organization that sees that they're qualified for being an Oregon donor. They would call me like, I had one time they called me like eight times and one shift and
Starting point is 00:21:50 I give the same information each time. So when someone dies, you have to do all that. You have to call the family and talk to them. You have to prep the body and bag it up. That's probably three to five hours of your time when you also have like two other patients that are probably also going to die too. So like you're doing all this basically social work while trying to keep these people alive and change strips, talking to family on the phone, doing all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The doctors, I mean, I love my intensivist in the ICU, but even the doctors would be like, oh yeah, you just fill out the information and say the time of death. Like I would declare the patient. All this stuff that we're doing, it's not the same as people working for UPS or being in the grocery store. I'm sorry. It's a different thing, but people don't know that because they can't see it. We can't film it and you can't see what actually goes down.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I wish I could have like a giant waiver, be like, all right, for this shift, all these patients get their shit released or whatever. We could film everything and show a whole shift. I got a GoPro on because people don't understand what we had to do or what we do every day. And then the other thing with COVID patients is the ones that were really sick and need hospital beds. They're displacing other medical patients that don't have COVID who need care too. So we would see those patients decline because they'd be displaced, they're not getting the
Starting point is 00:23:06 treatment they need, they decline, they tank, they die too. So there's a lot of deaths that are related to COVID indirectly because those people got mistreated because of COVID patients taking up beds, which annoyed the shit out of me with people that won't get vaccinated. I'm like, I'm looking at you, you cop. I know you're going to end up in a bed and you're probably going to die, but you probably wouldn't have been in that bed that long if you got a vaccination. And now that guy who needs a heart transplant is like dead too.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So it's just, it's a big clusterfuck. We don't know where to, we wouldn't know where to put patients or we'd have to turn them away. I have a question about what you just said about you calling the coroner. Is that, is that like standard that that is like, it seems like, it seems like there are a lot of things that they have nurses do that it's kind of a consequence of like just stretching like one job into several, which we do with everything in this country. But like, it seems like especially hospitals and it seems, is that just like another thing
Starting point is 00:24:10 that we let? Yeah, it's not us. Was it taking time bomb? Yeah, it's not us. I mean, we also have to ask the family, do you want an autopsy and we have to go through a bunch of other stuff with that. And it's like, usually we know how they died and we'll have the doctor. Like most of the time they won't go great in no autopsy because we know why they die.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But it's just another thing that's just like placed on us as time consuming where we don't have the time to do these things. And that's why, you know, I was just, I was actively helping kill people. You know, I've thought about this for two years, I've legally killed, you know, dozens of people, I feel like you're like, no, it's not your fault. It's a system below. I'm like, yeah, but I'm the one that felt their pull stop on the one that watched them stop breathing on the one that backed them up.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And I worked with them for three days and they were getting better. And then this happened. So they could say it's not my fault, but it to me will always feel like it was my fault. I mean, I don't know how I would carry that around with me. I mean, it's just, I mean, yeah, I mean, like when you were a nurse, I mean, like you see the reality of life and death every, every day up close. And like, you know, I mean, you are responsible for it. And you know, in the sense...
Starting point is 00:25:21 Right. And we know going into that with that job. Yeah. We know we're going to see people die in that job, but it was, it's so much. And when you're, like I said, all that stuff that goes into what happens when someone dies, there's also things like if we do, oh, another funny thing is I would have to call the donation people. If the people have COVID, I already know since they had COVID, they're not going to qualify
Starting point is 00:25:40 and they won't take that patient, but they still make me go through all the steps. It's like, why the fuck am I doing this? You're wasting my time. So there's that. Or if they do qualify to be a donor and there's someone that's brain dead, we will declare brain death on someone who is, say, they're under cardiac arrest. They've been under CPR for too long. The longer you're, you're arresting, even if we get your pulse back in your life, technically,
Starting point is 00:26:09 your brain has lost so much oxygen, you become a vegetable. So there's ways we can test to see if there's any neuroactivity. When they're declared brain dead, we can still use all their organs though. We can keep their body alive and then we'll eventually turn them over to organ nurses who will come in and take over the treatment. Then they start hunting around hospitals around the country, around the world, being like, who needs these organs essentially? So they'll take over.
Starting point is 00:26:34 But that's a whole other thing too, is transferring that patient over and working with those nurses. So it's pretty complicated and it's tougher when it's a weekend night and it's 3 a.m. And you're the only one around. It seems like the American hospital system has everything that people said Soviet bureaucracy had, but then just so many specific stupid American things, like the filling out the form for organ donation when you know they died of COVID. That's fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And I'd imagine there's like a million things like that that just no one knows about. Yeah, there is. I'll just, I'll stay for the record here. If I die for any reason, and I'm including like plain crash in this, I want an autopsy done. I want, I want, I want, I want all, I want all the guilty parties. I want all the, I want everything identified, cataloged and the guilty people punting. So you can sue me and get me fired.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yes. That's why I want it. I want it when people would be like, oh, we want an autopsy. I'm like, why Karen? Your fat cop husband had a heart attack. That's what happened. I like people are going to list us and think I'm like inconsiderate or like not compassionate, but it comes with the territory.
Starting point is 00:27:49 All nurses talk like this. And while we're backing people up, we make pretty bad jokes. So I know it's like edgy and stuff. It sounds edgy, but I'm saying like, that's the reality. I remember I think I made a joke on Twitter and people were like scolding me about something and I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Like you're sitting at home whining about how you have trauma from working from home for a year.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. Fuck out of here. Yeah. No, you, Andrew, Andrew, you was me and you talking to each other. And we were, yeah, we were talking about like euthanasia and then all those like the way everyone who like jumped off the porch should become Catholic when they were 25 yelled at you. No, no, what I said is that it's difficult trying to convince a family sometimes to have
Starting point is 00:28:30 like when they're the proxy to make them a full code into a DNR, DNI. And then that guy was like, make them. And I was like, all right, motherfucker, shut up. You know what I'm, he knew what I meant to just being a little weepy, scold life is sacred, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, all right, then do you come tell me this person has a chance at some miracles going to save them when their brain has nothing up there? Well, another thing you mentioned in your video and like, this is something that I've
Starting point is 00:29:01 spoken to like other people I know in the nursing profession, which is, you know, big thing is happening right now in terms of like the job is this phenomenon of travelers, hospitals hiring essentially like, like fulfilling staff on like, like short term contracts, but like they're, you know, they're sort of like, you know, flown in from like out of state or even out of country. And they end up working there for a short term, but are making like something like three to four times what the people who are actually employed in that hospital are making. Could you talk about that phenomenon and like, I mean, like what that's like?
Starting point is 00:29:33 I mean, is there anger towards these people or is it just like, is it just a fact of the nature of the, what, what the hospital is in the medical field? No, we don't, we never have any, we never have any anger towards them because I don't blame any of them leaving their jobs to go make some more money that they deserve to make. So people will be like, they're scab nurses. And I'll be like, I mean, it's kind of different in my opinion. So those nurses, like there's not any like animosity towards them and they're all great nurses and I would be happy to help them.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I had a lot of rough nights where we had to help each other. They're like, I mean, they're any other nurse, but I don't think there are people like, I think at the outside, I think of them like as scabs or something like I said, but I don't, you don't view them that way. The frustrating part is when you're doing more work than them and you know, they're making like three or four times more than you, it's frustrating because the full-time staffers should be getting that too, you know? The reason why travel nursing started was to incentivize people to go to rural locations.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So we'd have nurses, we're nurses there, which makes sense. Like it made sense. But now it's everywhere in cities and with COVID, it's like the normal way to do it. And I think the way it works is a hospital, these travel agencies will get a big contract from a hospital and then they don't have to pay, it's not permanent, you know? So they could pay these nurses and they're gone. And I think over time, it'd be a lot cheaper to just pay your full-time staff and let them like, you know, unionize.
Starting point is 00:31:00 We all know that's the big no-no. Especially when like the hospital I just left was for one of the biggest health systems in America. It's a big private, you know, business. People would be like, well, you can unionize private, I was like, yeah, I'm going to unionize giant privatized system, like it's frustrating, people just big, just unionize, like, yeah, it's just so easy. Take some people like 15 years to get in union, but I'll just, you know, walk in, we're union,
Starting point is 00:31:26 we'll fire us, put my foot down, walk in, like, daffy dog, listen, like, no, I'm just going to quit, I'm not going to keep. Well, I mean, like you said, like, I mean, like, in terms of like, why, why, why, why is, where are more Americans dead to this fucking disease than like any other country in the world? And, you know, it's like a lack of a truly universal healthcare system, but it's also a function of what you were saying, like, like all these problems are exacerbated by the people who are most responsible for like being like the thin thread that's still like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 you know, stitches together, like the basics of having a civilization. It's throughout the pandemic largely been the responsibility of nurses who even before the pandemic, no, it's bartenders, bartenders, the vanguard, insanely overworked and underpaid. And like, are the shortages are happening because a lot of people, including you, are just simply, I've had enough of it. And I'm wondering, like, if you could just share, like, what brought you to that decision? Because I think one of the things that was moving about your, you know, the video you posted was about, you know, how much you like doing your job and how much you care for the
Starting point is 00:32:37 patients that you have. But the thing you said is that, like, I can't do the job anymore because they've made us all bad at the job that we know we like and we can be good at. Yeah, that's definitely it. We worked hard in school. School for nursing is not easy. Anyone who does it will tell you that. But you keep going because of something you want to do.
Starting point is 00:32:59 When it's when staffing is the way it should be, it's pretty rewarding. You could see progress and you could see people get better and be discharged. But like I said, when we're stretched so thin every single night, when I'm going into a shift and I got three patients right off the rip, every shift and, you know, some of the patients I would have, he did one to one care. They need just me and that one patient and I have two others, someone's going to die, you know, and it's on me. And then doctors get, you know, pissy at me, oh, you missed these labs at this time.
Starting point is 00:33:36 And I was like, well, actually the laboratory canceled them for some reason, they're getting pissy at me and I'm like, why don't you walk your ass over here and help me out with these patients if you don't want to see them tank in, you know, code before your shift is over. And that's not like super common. Most of the doctors I worked with are great. And they're just as worn out, if not more worn out because they have to do a million things and, you know, think about, you know, so many patients. But it's like people, you know, that we start, people will start lashing out at each other.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's like, why aren't we going after the executives for this shit, you know? So I couldn't do it, at least bedside for a while, I can't do it anymore. It's just, it's too tiring for, you know, 35 an hour, they're exploiting, you know, what I can do. And I'm just, you know, signing death papers over and over. And it's like, no, they're just dying. Like, what, why am I here? If they're just going to die, why should I come to work, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:36 And I mean, thankfully I have episode one, so I kind of had that to fall back on for the moment. But yeah, I mean, I'm going to have to get another job eventually. I don't know where I'm going to go. There's a lot of different avenues in nursing, which is very convenient, but I don't want to be in the hospitals right now. And I hope other people are able to do the same. I hope they have spouses that can support them or some way that they can quit.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And I want to see nurses quit and walk out. And I want to see these, these companies and these executives realize that they need us and we don't need them, you know, they're going to have to deal with the lawsuits. They can't go into that room. They don't know how to do shit. I had a chief nursing officer, one of the executives who didn't even know how to do vitals. And it's like, dude, don't come to my unit when I have three patients with a cart full
Starting point is 00:35:24 of granola bars. Like, get the fuck out of here. Hey, I came by and he's like, is there anything we could do for you? And I was like, yeah, you could take my patients and I could go home. And he's like, oh, that could be much help. And I was like, I know dickhead, get the fuck out of here. What a healthcare hero. These are the people that like are so excited about their bonuses at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And it's like, no, they're just suits and they don't know how to run. They don't know what is needed to run a hospital. I also had people like commentating. I think I just like saw here and there like the majority report covered my video. And I saw someone being like, yeah, well, when those, when the ICU is full, those ICU patients are in the ER and they get so guys like, I'm an ER nurse, it sounds like he's going to play like you play about three patients is kind of a lot or something like that. And I was like, first of all, dude, I got pulled to the ER all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Whenever there's a code or like a level one trauma, the ICU nurses would go there or I'd get pulled to the I the ER just to work there because they're short staff and I'd go help them and do things that they didn't know how to do. So it's not what drove me nuts is I had saw people being like, why do this at my job and bubble. It's like, it's not a competition. It's not getting fucked over. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Like it's not a ER versus ICU or the floors or nursing home nurses or like any of that. It's like, no, we're all getting fucked over right now. That's what I'm trying. They want us to fight each other and get pissed off and say like it's so and so, so, but it's just, you know, it's always the higher up as usual because they don't want to pay anyone. You are, you're totally right. But I should just admit right now, I found a ER doctor who lives in my neighborhood and I shot his front door a bunch of times because they were yelling at you.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I thought they're all like together. I thought it was a big thing. It's okay. Well, they are pretty lazy. Yeah. I mean, fuck doctors anyway. Pay doctors less. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Spread the love. Give us some. Give me a piece. Fuck doctors. Support nurses. Well, I mean, there's another thing like I think like basically over the last like month or so, I feel like half of everybody I know has gotten COVID or at least tested positive for COVID and who knows what that means anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And overwhelmingly because, you know, like they're all vaccinated, it was not a problem. It was like, you know, a couple of days of having a mild cold when you stay in and then you're fine. So like, I'm just wondering like, you know, you've been through the height of it and now going into 2022. I mean, like, where do you think we're at now with like in terms of people's this sort of individual social responsibility matrix that people put themselves through in terms of their own behavior and judging others at this point, like at this state in the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:38:04 like as it regards masks, vaccines, like how much how much emphasis should individuals be placing on their own behavior and then also like other people's behavior at this point? Well, you'll lane it all on me will. Yeah. Just one nurse. Just one nurse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And whatever you say here, it dictates what's going to happen. Good. Okay. So I'm just a nurse. I mean, obviously no one really knows, but I got, like I said, I've got vaccinated, like the first one of the first people to get vaccinated at my hospital when it became available last December. When there's mask mandates, I wear my mask.
Starting point is 00:38:37 If there's not a mask mandate, like in Michigan, everyone was walking around without them on and I'm like, okay, I don't get pissed at people for not wearing a mask. I'm like, most people are vaccinated and especially they're vexed and like, I'm not going to be freaking out and I think the people that love, there's like the both sides that annoy me because there's the people that won't get vaccinated. They bitch about wearing the mask and freak out because they want attention. And then there's a people like the liberals that love to scold people about all this stuff constantly and they want to keep this shrod going up because they like sitting at
Starting point is 00:39:09 home and they like this whole theater of the past two years. They love it because they get to be self-righteous all the time. And I've had people scold me like a nurse that's been working in it two years for things like that. Like, oh, you don't wear your mask or like, you didn't wear your mask here or just like I've tweeted things that people get pissed at me and I'm like, what do you want me to do? I mean, I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Like we can't sit at home forever, everyone should be getting vaccinated and if there's a place, I mean, most places are private institutions, if they have masks or if a county has a mask mandate like mine has one right now, I'll wear my mask. But also you go into a restaurant, wear your mask, you sit down and you take it off like big fucking deal. Like it's, it's, it's, I don't know, like, I don't know, I don't know what to say. Like I don't know what people want. I think they make it out to be a bigger deal than it is on both sides, you know, the scolds
Starting point is 00:40:01 love it though. The scolds love to be, oh, so you just want everyone dead. I'm like, well, yeah, maybe you're going to do about it. I mean, yeah, every time I'm in the airport, I just feel like, you know, if, if captain trips happened, I'd be okay with that. I mean, I just flew back last night from Detroit and I still think it's kind of funny that we all like, I mean, the airport's different because I guess you're so close to everyone, but it's like, we all got it, right?
Starting point is 00:40:27 You know, we all got our vaccines or we all got COVID, right? And those who, who are going to get at the Dinky vaccine, I mean, just, well, I'll see you guys. I'll see you. I won't see my work anymore, let's see what work, but yeah, the airport's tough because it's like, I mean, yeah, on one hand, like, yeah, everyone's close together. A lot of them are like, shittily ventilated and people are disgusting, people are disgusting. And it's also like, yeah, I mean, you're already, you're already just getting like the dumbest
Starting point is 00:40:54 person in the county, the airports in to just like molest you in front of your family and blast you with x-rays. So like, what's another thing kind of, yeah, I mean, funny enough, I forgot my, I, I forgot my license when I flew in Colorado. We have the digital license and an app that even like the police will accept. So I could use that a lot here, but I forgot my actual license to fly. They still let me through, but they do, they walk me ahead and do the advanced screening where they go through all my shit.
Starting point is 00:41:20 They swabbed my shoes and all this stuff. And I was like, I was like, by the way, those were my work shoes. So you might find like some fentanyl or nitroglycerin on there, just saying I spread like spilled that shit all the time. Like I broke a bottle of propofolate shattered all over the floor one night. Like, I don't know, like it happens, but as she goes, she's like, Oh, well, we don't take that into consideration. We don't take like war to mouth.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I was like, I'm just telling you, if you see it pop up, I was telling you, you know, I think there should just like, I mean, like the, the thing with airplanes is funny because yeah, it's like, it's a tube where everyone's breathing the same air for like, you know, sometimes six hours. But then yeah, same thing that happens with everything else where it's like, yeah, but you can take it off to eat peanuts. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I don't know. Yeah. And also some guys like saying, actually wiping his boogers all over the seat or just like out of secretly coming under a blanket, like people are just gross in general. Like, I don't know. Like a mask doesn't make me feel any better. Yeah. It's a mess building that not just not in airports, but like on the airplane, which
Starting point is 00:42:21 like feel like you said is a hermetically sealed soda can where everyone's breathing their same farts. And don't mask is going to make me feel better. You guys just, it's a socially accepted thing. Like we're just kind of all in this nasty miasma with each other's farts for hours on end. I feel like that's why they should let me like, you should be able to like create a counter cloud of smoking or vaping.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Yes. You should be able to smoke cigars, but only cigars on planes. Yeah. Yeah. And you should have to wear a suit. Yeah. Tuxedo to fly. People don't dress up no more for the airport.
Starting point is 00:42:51 But no, just the idea that like, yes, you can, you can pull your mask down to eat or drink, and I was just thinking over the holiday when I was traveling, if I buy enough food at Hudson Nudes, I can stay eating for the entire flight, eating and drinking and have my mask down. I was eating out the entire three hour flight. Just buy a 12 inch sub and just take it your way. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:20 The social stuff has been really tiring for me and like I was saying earlier, like the people that talk about, oh, my job is scary too. I was like, no, I feel bad that the people, you know, they have to do their jobs and they had to deal with all this shit the past years without hazard pay. But I also have not had a cent of hazard pay in the past two years. And we're the ones with this crisis in the labor issues, we're the ones that see the deaths. That's like the actual like end of it all.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And that's what everyone's so terrified about COVID anyway is the deaths. But I'm seeing this at work and I'm seeing these people die over and over again. And I realized no one really cares about the death. They're just going through the numbers every day so they can all argue and scold each other and have their theater and it's not helping anything. It doesn't, none of these motherfuckers on Twitter or work from home people have helped me do my job. The people that fear manga constantly all day long, they made my job harder.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So I don't know, I don't, I, I, I hate everyone. What do you, what do you think about my idea though? I mean, I don't think this is the only idea that can end the pandemic. I have another idea. It's a movie idea. But what if like just for the airport, there's an evil airline where there's not just, not just like no masks, there's like no security check. And it's just like, whatever, yeah, whatever happens, happens.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You have to drink like for a logo. Yeah. Yeah. On the flight, they force it on you. And it's like the, you, you can have like, there's a lottery where someone gets thrown off the plane. Yeah. If you buy three seats, you can, you can pick someone to get thrown off.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Hey, I don't like the way that guy looks his eyebrows, they suck, throw them off. I think that would be kind of sick. Several of the planes are swagged out convertible models. She really gets that wind rushing through your hair. All right. My, my idea is that we bring back Barack Obama. We have like this giant waiver. We let him come back and that we could post the meme where he says, hold up, I got this.
Starting point is 00:45:21 It'd be awesome. Oh yeah. But he has gray hair now. And it's like, then it's even silver Fox. Yeah. It's even sicker cause it's like he already had it that other time. That pick up Obama. Him and his new, him and his new vice president, Bruce Springsteen, ready gates.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Do you think they fucked? I'm on fire. Just thinking about that. That's all I'll say. Well, I'm not, I'm not saying like they're gay. I'm saying like, who knows what drugs like Spartans. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Like American Spartans are just, they're going poggers on each other's holes and it's like being a patriot. Well, like, yeah, they both took GHB and they're like, what if we just did this one time and like didn't tell anyone? I think it's fine. Yeah. Speaking of being patriotic and going poggers on each other's holes, let's close out this episode with, and start the new year with a reading from Rod Dreher.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yes, folks. I don't know. I feel bad dipping my, dipping my pen into this ink well, maybe one too many times, but Rod just keeps coming out with more fire. And here he is in the American conservative talking about going poggers. Do you think he'll miss? People's souls. I think he might miss this time.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I don't know. No way. No shot. So, this is Rod, the headline is Queer as Volk, and this sort of interesting background to this is that he is talking about, I mean, the online right over the last week or so has had to do some serious soul searching. And by that I mean not because one of their most fervent reply guys killed five people, but that one of their most fervent reply guys also knew that guy and did cuck pornography
Starting point is 00:47:05 at one point in his career. So they have a lot to process right now. All right. So, this is Rod Dreher writes, major craziness going on right now in a certain niche corner of the right. Do you know who Jack Murphy is? I barely knew of him until I saw him pass by the hallway at the National Conservatism Conference recently.
Starting point is 00:47:27 He's a striking figure, very tall, bald, with a dramatic beard. Someone explained to me that he is a big figure in the manosphere and fronts a hyper-masculine philosophy that at one point included polygamy. Here is a link to his self-description on his website, Jack Murphy Live, excerpt. Men are being told that they can't and shouldn't take what they can because of patriarchy, because of feminism, because of the progressive mindset that the state is there to provide. The world always needs a villain, and today that villain is the white straight male who knows what he wants and is unafraid to get it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Be the villain, embrace it. Be the villain so you can be the hero to your sons, daughters, and lovers, and eventually your community, nation, and the world. I was wondering why Jack Murphy, real name John Goldman, turned up at NatCon, but someone told me that he is a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute. Someone else told me that they thought he had recently turned to Christianity, but weren't sure. Is he still a polygamist, I asked?
Starting point is 00:48:24 My interlocutor did not know. Why is Jack Murphy in the news this week? In part because Lyndon McLeod, the far-right mass shooter in Denver who wrote novels under the name Roman McLeod, was allegedly a member of Murphy's private brotherhood called The Liminal Order. And it ended on my street, by the way. That shooting ended on my street. Yeah, so this guy was like a manosphere hanger-on and self-published novelist, and then he just
Starting point is 00:48:52 decided to kill his tattoo artist or something like that and five other people. He was targeting women, then he got owned by a woman cop. Yeah, no, he got domed by a female officer. Another person who will not see Valhalla. I think some of the people he killed, he wrote in that book about killing, so the secret is real. I guess we all should have read that book, we would have known it was coming. It was in a tattoo parlor, right?
Starting point is 00:49:21 One of the places, it was like multiple crime scenes. Well, didn't the FBI drop the ball on him? It's like a million other things. No, it doesn't sound right. No, are you kidding me? Yeah, you're probably right. No, apparently he had some pretty close interactions with FBI agents. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Weird. Weird how that keeps happening, how everybody who shoots more than a few people has interviewed FBI people right beforehand or has had extended contact with them. They just thought his book was good. Now, just keep writing, brother. Do you ever think that maybe just a government and agency can be unlucky? Yeah, you know, just give another chance. So yes, his brotherhood, the liminal order, Rod writes, what's this liminal order all
Starting point is 00:50:08 about? I suspect we will be finding out soon. Plus, a week or so, Murphy went on a chat show and was asked about an article he once wrote speaking of the pleasures of being a literal cuckold. He wrote about farming his girlfriend out to other men for sex. Jack Murphy did not appreciate the question. Don't click on this at work. He dropped several F-bombs.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It turns out that back in 2015, Murphy, who now sells himself and his masculinist advisory services as an extreme chad, wrote a piece extolling the erotic pleasures of being a beta cuck. You can find this online. I'm not going to link to it. Some redditors got busy digging and found that Murphy and his girlfriend had acted in a self-made porn broadcast in 2019. In the film, there is apparently a sequence in which the super masculine Murphy impales
Starting point is 00:50:56 himself with a plastic phallus while simultaneously pleasuring himself. This is not a rumor, alas, I stumbled across the image online and can't unsee it. I saved it just in case it gets deleted for journalistic purposes. I can't unsee this image that I made my background. It's really crazy. He stumbled across. He stumbled across after spending three hours on Reddit. I wonder what would happen if I showed Rod Pantsdude.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I think Pantsdude is like too nice. He has like too good of an aura. Yeah. He would be like giving garlic to a vampire. I want to take Rod Dreher to the Naked Barber, just let him get a fade, you know? This artistic performance by this wonderful barber. I can't get the image out of my head of me grabbing the barber's dick. We're all fantasized about it.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't think the Pantsdude would be really Rod's type because earlier in the piece, remember, he described running into him at the NatCon convention and he described him as a striking fellow with an amazing beard and big muscles. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Pantsdude is like unassuming looking. He has the he has like a common genotype, but then he has an amazing, two amazing talents, I would say. He's got his own rod. He really does. That thing's a fucking dinger. That thing looks like a caveman club made out of flesh. It looks like a.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah. It's like a baby holding an apple, you know, the baby's arm that's just like imagine walking through your apartment. Like, I hope he doesn't have like a bunch of vases. It's like, ah, not again. He pans to himself and just knocks over his criterion collection, Blu-rays. Well, we sit like, I mean, I think everyone agrees. The funniest idea is like a scientist, like knocking over his science shit, like his beakers
Starting point is 00:53:03 and stuff with his heart. That's actually how COVID leaked from the Wuhan, right? Yeah. I know. He was trying to, he was trying to do the Pansu video and he knocked over, knocked over a beaker that was labeled COVID-19. Do not touch. Saving for later.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's dude. I just think it'd be tight if he kind of put some, he took his, his dork and dipped in some water. They took some crystal glasses and went with his dinger, like around the top and he played like a symphony or like he had like a Prince Albert and just like clink, clink, clink, clink his xylophone, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh my God. He could finally make Ben Franklin's most bullshit invention, the glass harmonica.
Starting point is 00:53:45 He could actually do something cool with that. You think that's bullshit? Yeah. It's actually better than the light bulb, but whatevs. People's sleep on Ben Franklin's inventions. Like I don't really, people, someone probably made the Lazy Susan like 5,000 years ago. He also invented MDMA. People don't know that.
Starting point is 00:54:01 That is true. Ben Franklin invented a fucking, fucking widows because you know, you know, you know, they know what they're doing and they're unattached. Yeah. He loved MILFs. He had wrote that letter to his younger friend of being like, they're just so grateful. It's like, damn, Ben, and I like all the French even wanted to dress like him. I'm like, that guy, like, yeah, he's the best snuff or snuff.
Starting point is 00:54:22 He looks like a boss. He has the best hair. We all want to be this man. And Thomas Jefferson wanted to be too. Yeah. It was the only time when like they did like, there was like a 100 year period where everyone respected epic fat guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 It was like he was the Josh Gad of the Revolutionary War. Yeah. The grunts and squeals of the conference constitution were provided by Ben Franklin. So it says, back to Rod here, it says, so now we see that a far right public figure whose entire personality and business model was promoting himself as a villainous straight white male, villainous straight white male is rather more ambiguous about his straightness and his masculinity than he would have us know. Murphy has a history of sadistic writing and messaging.
Starting point is 00:55:10 In 2015, he informed his readers that feminists need rape to solve the problem of man's natural tendency towards dominance and women to passivity and submission. And now there are images going around of his self-sodomization in a porn movie that he and his girlfriend did for money. A decade ago, Johann Hari, the gay left-wing British journalist, wrote an essay exploring the connection between homosexual men and fascism. It will be interesting to see how the Jack Murphy story plays out. Rod is hoping for more images.
Starting point is 00:55:42 My DMs are open for any other and sleuths out there. He goes, looks like one more piece of evidence for the Weimar America thesis. Now, what I like about this Rod article is, I mean, obviously the fact that he said, I click through all the links and cannot unsee what I saw, but it's just like in his mind, he either pretends to or doesn't get that it's actually not surprising that someone who's like a fucking bald, bearded muscle man who talks constantly about masculinist supremacy would enjoy the pleasures of, as he describes it, self-sodomization. It shouldn't come as a surprise, and in fact, I think it makes you more likely.
Starting point is 00:56:23 But I mean, I do like that this whole thing was just like a side note to the other guy that murdered five people. And the thing that there's like a big controversy is just like, oh, wait, this other guy stuck a dildo up his ass one time. We need to have a reckoning in our own opinion. Wait, hold it. Yeah, hold the phone. Like, okay, that guy murdered someone, he was just a bitch, but this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:44 I do, what is interesting about this article, and maybe it's like serial killers who kind of want to get caught, is that like Rod writing an article about far right, like near like fascist guys, as he characterizes them, who are into gay stuff. And it's like, oh, wait, you mean not you. You're like these two guys, but not you. No, it turns out that like Jim Jones before him, Rod Dreher is the only straight man in the world. There we go, that's a fun little bit of Rod to kick off the new year.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But I guess we'll leave it there for today's show. I want to thank Andrew Hudson for his uncensored view behind the veil of the American hospital. What they don't want you to hear. Doctors hate me. Because they're lazy ER nurses hated me even more because they're they're liars and cheaters. That's right. And also like they suck at Rainbow Six Siege. They're not as cool as me.
Starting point is 00:58:02 They don't dress as cool. No, none. All nurses are cool, even though they all some of them do stupid ass dances for TikTok. If you got time to do dance for TikTok, then you must live in like one of those states where they have like no one coming in that hospital, you know, they're in Florida. We're Ron DeSantis invented antibody treatments. So everyone's just in and out in one hour or or those nurses that do that, they got the right idea.
Starting point is 00:58:27 They're like, we don't give a fuck anymore. They're just going to let it all let them all die. Is Ron DeSantis dead, by the way, he hasn't been seen in public in a couple of weeks. What's going on with that? He is. He has mono. He got mono from his wife. No, I don't, yeah, that's been a big thing.
Starting point is 00:58:47 His I mean, like his wife, like I got diagnosed with breast cancer. I actually like, I don't know if it's like really bad or it's like the kind where you like to get lotion, like when my grandfather had skin cancer. I don't know. I don't know anything about cancer. Enough. I will fuck him to cheer him up. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah, it's been a big thing back and forth between the liberals and conservatives is you know, if he has COVID or not. I don't know. I feel like if he had really bad COVID, we'd have heard about it, but you never know, I guess. I just assume if he's vaccinated. He's vaccinated. So it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Yeah. Yeah. I'm more interested in Bolsonaro going back to the hospital for his poopsies. His blockages are going to kill him, man. He's going to just get like a, he's just going to have a fistula form that just takes him up. Finally. Dude, imagine.
Starting point is 00:59:39 The most resilient man. Dude, imagine like you. Like in his eyes, like what he thinks is happening, he's facing down against his greatest enemy. Like Lula is his greatest enemy. Like that's his nemesis to him. And it's not just like a personal contest, but it's, it's his civilizational like existential fight. It's like, is Brazil going to be based or are gay college professors going to run the
Starting point is 01:00:01 show? And during that like life and death struggle, you're like, oh, can you take me to the hospital so they can wipe me? I just want to know what the fuck are his turds like, does he have the blob inside him? Like, why does it keep, he keep getting like this ancient clay within his intestines that just like, no, got to get another inch, he too, but like, you just, well, I'm, he just needs at this point, he just needs a colostomy bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Straight up. And he might end up with one. I'm being serious. He might end up with a colostomy bag or two. Oh. He asked me back. One for me to drink. He's got a colostomy duffel bag.
Starting point is 01:00:37 He's going to double, he gets picked apart in an emu attack and he's just leaking shit everywhere. Double fisting. Double fisting. He's like, we know what, we're not helpless here. Listener, if you're, if you were hearing this right now, you can help, please donate your shit to, to come and dante Jair Bolsonaro. Please send a care of chopper trap house and in a paper envelope.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And you know, if you have like a cat or dog or something, send some of their shit too. You never know. School transplants are state of the art medical technology. Yeah. Like they do, they talk about the Brazilian butt lift, but we need the Brazilian turd transfer. It's like a concrete mixer pouring out into his asshole. Just add water.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You mix it in and it goes, you know, they have the NG tube goes to his, his, his nose to his stomach to remove. It sucks everything out. We need to do the other way for views in those tubes where you give them food or we're just put straight poop. He's not a feeding tube, but it's just poop. Like dog. He's, he's really, uh, he's really responding to this poop trip.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah. He's, we're doing like quantitative easing for poop with him. Like we're increasing the M2 shit supply to stomach. Like I want to like, I don't even know what you'd do with him because like, okay, the guy who stabbed him obviously didn't finish the job, but like really fucked his life up. Like really bad. Clearly. Like I'd rather be, I'd rather just die from that stabbing than have to keep going to the
Starting point is 01:02:04 hospital for my poop nightmare. There you go. He loves it. He loves going to the hospital. It's his favorite thing. He gets the juicy juice and, uh, he loves the terrible food. Yeah. He's excited about all that Jell-O.
Starting point is 01:02:16 He loves the tic-tac dances. He like, um, yeah, I get, are they going to have to put like a soft serve machine where it just like cranks something from his ass? No, like, he honestly might end up with just like a colostomy or Iliostomy or both depending on where it's at. I don't know. I don't know. Like all the details, but that'd be something they might do.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So he gets to walk around with his bags all the time, like Edward Poupans. There's no, I don't, I feel, I'm not hating on anyone with those bags because it sucks, but for Jair Bolsonaro, he deserves it. Oh yeah. No. And he didn't. Yeah. He has those.
Starting point is 01:02:56 He's the bad guy. He is. Like, like that guy stabbed him because he's a bad guy. You know, his stupid ass would let that shit overfill and they just keep popping, just burping all over him. Oh my God. Yeah. Rolls over and it goes like whoopee cushion, but it's actual shit that comes out.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I hope, I hope, I hope Lula wins and like Institutes for Brazil, one of those plastic bag bands, but only for colostomy bags. So he has to have a cloth colostomy bag. It's like an old lunch bag that you like, let's sit there too long, pick it up and just falls through. He good. Yeah. He's going to the store and he's like, oh my God, I forgot my reusables and he's just
Starting point is 01:03:36 trying to juggling his own shit and those like chitty recycled plastic or paper bags. Some guy comes up and stabs him again, but just in the bag. So it goes everywhere. Like a stucco knife. There we go. I will leave you here. Seriously, good luck to Jair Bolsonaro. We're rooting for you in your election.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Just like we did last time. You rock dude. We love you. We want you to keep going to the hospital for 20 more years. You're the man surviving, surviving COVID 30 times. We love you. We love your sons, especially maybe even more than you. You have the world's most amazing smile.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You're beautiful. We don't think we don't think that bald guy fucked your wife. That's nasty. No one thinks that no one thinks that no. And if it did happen, Roger will find video of it and he will not get the image out of his head. He's like, where's the dildos? There's no ass playing this.
Starting point is 01:04:34 What the fuck? This guy sucks. It's heterosexual sex. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I'm not writing about this. This shit is in Weimar America. I'm not writing.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I guess might are going, oh, missionary, I know I'm Catholic, but yeah, someone's got to get a dildo up their ass for it to be Weimar. If we're to get worth writing about in the American conservative, we got to have some piss play. We got to have Jair's colostomy bag exploding on someone. And we need bearded muscle men getting their asses stretched. What about one of those into a stoma, one of Jair's stomas? I bet Jair would love that.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I like just going back to Rod a bit. I like that it's like, he's like, that's what he thinks of when he thinks of the Weimar Republic, not like hyperinflation or political instability, but he's like, you know, colon stimulation. The sounding. The main thing, yeah, sounding, all the urethra play, all the stuff we think about when we think about the Weimar Republic and it's like, I've never related those two. I've, those aren't the things I think about when I think of the Weimar Republic.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I mean, look, if there are muscular, bald, bearded kind of daddy men playing with their assholes and pimping out their wives, that's a sign of fascism. And Rod will be on the case to document every single step on the march to our new Fourth Reich. They should become a January 6th investigator to see if like any, any January 6th attendees did that. Do any of the January 6th insurrection offenders do ass stuff? I need videos and pictures send Rod.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Can we do Rod? Can we do a deposition where they do it to me to see if they really do this stuff? Just to demonstrate it. He gets on the legal defense team. Your honor, my client could not have done sounding. I tried to put a paper clip in there and I could only, you know, it was not taken out of my eye. I have proof I have the receipts from the ER visit.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Well, happy New Year, gentlemen. I'd like to thank the two great healthcare heroes of our time, Jair Bolsonaro and Andrew Hudson. Only two. Oh, and also thank medical and please subscribe to Episode One, the best podcast there is. Absolutely. Episode One just did a Q&A. If you don't, then you don't give a shit about healthcare people.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. You hate healthcare. That's right. That's what I said. The fans hold us back. Yeah. I've been saying you should ditch those guys for a while. Well, thank you for having me on, boys.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Cheers. It's always awesome. All right. Till next time, fellas. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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