Chapo Trap House - 781 - Goon Dad (11/13/23)
Episode Date: November 14, 2023Will, Felix and Amber pick up a few stories we missed last week, including Tim Scott girlfriend reveal (and campaign end), and Speaker of the House Mike Johnson’s father/son porn monitoring. We then... look at a litany of increasingly absurd bungles and PR disasters from the Israeli government, all from just the last week. Pick up your copy of Amber’s new book Dirtbag here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250269621/dirtbag And find all the new Chapo offerings at our digital shop here: https://www.patreon.com/chapotraphouse/shop
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Hey dudes, Amber really frost here. I don't know if you've ever heard of me, but for
a while I was a co-host on Chopbo Trapp house. Possibly the least favorite one. But I wrote
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But they thought, hey, you have a recognizable terrible sounding voice, and I cannot argue with that. So I can't promise
you that I'm the best reader of an audiobook, but I can promise you that I was the most
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I did not want to know how I sounded.
It was a lot of pressure.
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Friends, it's your shop. It's Monday, November 13th. We are back at you again.
Felix and I are joined today by Amber Frost.
Amber, how you doing?
I'm doing good.
LA caught on fire recently.
I don't know if you read about that.
LA's on fire right now?
I mean, there's just like a road.
Oh, I saw a guy saving pigeons on an LA freeway.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Yeah, they felt down, they got the smoke inhalation,
and he was just grabbing them up.
I mean, I think he could be hoarding them to use as, you know,
careers or something. I don't know.
All right, to kick off today's show,
I would like to discuss two news items that I neglected
to mention on last week's show.
One of them has a newsok that just happened today. The first of which is let's go with the more
contemporary story. Tim Scott dropped out of the Republican presidential race
and this was only after finally revealing who his girlfriend is. So he's now
out of the race to spend more time with his girlfriend, whose name is Mindy
Nose, an interior decorator from South Carolina.
He said he dropped out to combat anti-Semitism on college campuses.
You know, he says here, God said some rivals wanted to draw attention to his marital status
to sow the seeds of doubt about his campaign, according to the Washington Post.
It's like a different form of discrimination or bias, God said.
You can't just say I'm black because that would be terrible.
So you find something else that you can attack.
Yeah.
Everyone remembers that awful chapter of American history when police unleashed fire hoses
on guys who didn't have girlfriends. But no, he like, he really did say that he,
he's like, all right, silly season's over. I know I'm not getting this president shit because I
had saxophonist 37 and no other time in my life. But the real mission starts today combating
anti-Semitism at Columbia. Like that's how, you know how like,
whenever a politician loses,
and they're like, we didn't actually lose tonight
because the fight begins, blah, blah, blah.
He really means it.
He's really gonna go to college campuses and makes beaches.
I know I applaud Senator Scott
for joining the war on college.
Yeah, I mean, we could agree on that at least, but is he just like, I don't know, hanging out on the quad
or whatever, just like waiting for people to walk by? Like, I don't know if like a lot of people
are going to host him. I mean, I don't think I think he's like given up on college as an idea,
you know, the place where you get laid, like he's tried that. Right. I think this is a way for him to get invited on birthright.
Well, I just want some Mediterranean vacation.
Yeah, exactly.
I'd like to hear what Mindy knows
things about him going on birthright.
I mean, it could shield out, do a tent.
And also Mindy knows, like, I mean,
I'm going to need a follow up on their relationship
like six months from now.
That's all I'm saying.
Mm-hmm. Wow. I mean, I'm gonna need a follow up on their relationship like six months from now. That's all I'm saying.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Mindy knows looks like one of those women on TikTok
who like mixed spaghetti, oh casserole,
like all those disgusting viral meals.
Like making cool-aid in the toilet and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Could you put it in the chat
because I'm only coming up with like Mindy Collins
got a nose job.
That would be funny if he were wrong
and he's actually dating Mindy Collins.
That's the Cory Booker move for the Republican Party.
Yeah, we're good.
Okay, I am sending you Mindy nose.
I do like the idea though that
St. like, like, bachelors are being discriminated against
and like, and I'm thinking back to like,
I feel like she brought up the civil rights movement
when, you know, like, people protestors to being attacked. I'm imagining men to like I feel like she brought up the civil rights movement when you know, like, people, protesters, to being attacked.
I'm imagining men with like, you know, the placards that they had in the civil rights movement
that say, that said, I am a man.
I'm just imagining now when it says, I am a single man.
Yeah, I, I don't know, like, best of luck to Senator Scott in the future.
Mindy knows is like, I don't even know what she thought she of luck to senator scott in the future mendi knows is like
i don't even know what she thought she was gonna get out of this
but she's pretty hot and she's also like a uh... uh... mother three but i do
kind of wonder if like
he does have a little sense of like it being like discrimination and like
you know if that's the case he picked the wrong party
maybe is avoiding avoiding is avoiding raising those alarms.
Oh, man, think how fucking racist you would have to be
to be a Republican and be like,
I'm afraid of the virile savage Tim Scott.
For fucking doing further than the nation shit to us.
Like that's it.
Like if you're terrified of Tim Scott,
you're just, you're like medically racist. There's no help for you. No amount of e-brew candy books.
You're gonna do anything for you. So yeah, she is pretty, she looks pretty good. I do
wonder about that. Like she has three kids. What kind of conversation is that to have with your
kids? Where you're like, all right, you may have a new stepfather.
I'm his second girlfriend ever.
Your stepfather is a 63 year old who's never jacked off.
Well, Emory, I mean, you asked like what Mindy got out of this.
And I think the answer to the question is a trip to the third republican presidential debate which he appeared on stage with
timm scott uh... the closing of the proceedings
jay she was certainly walking better in heels than uh... ronda santa's was
yeah i mean that everyone's gonna want her to to decorate their weird
north carolina house or whatever fucks she's from i mean it's a bummer because
i was hoping i mean i was hoping was hoping Tim Scott could, you know,
finally get, finally get some action.
But, you know, unfortunately getting laid is, you know,
that's something you have to do to become president.
And unfortunately, that's not gonna be him.
Mike Pence also dropped out.
There was an article about how he couldn't get,
even 15 people to show up to the pizza ranch
in Ohio to come here and talk.
I thought that was the Indiana.
My kids will also be exiting the Republican primary.
I thought that was the Indiana story.
Yeah, but it was also like, okay, it was like a 7,000 people town in the Midwest.
The pizza is not good.
Like they're not like, you know, we don't like that food either.
We just were alcoholics and like, you know, Schlitz is the food either. We just were alcoholics and like, you
know, Schlitz is the best sauce. They're not going to like eat there during the day time.
That's a, that's a late night sadness meal. Any, any meal where you have to listen to Mike
Penstalk is a, is a sadness meal. True. The next story that I neglected to mention
last week is one that concerns the new Republican speaker of the house, Mike Johnson.
Headline, Mike Johnson admits he and his son monitor each other's porn intake in
resurfaced video.
What do they mean, monitor?
I mean, presumably they're gooning together.
Keep gooning, dad.
Don't come yet.
I mean, I think a system like that of mutual accountability is great because whether it's
working out or gooning, you know, I know I couldn't, like I couldn't bring myself to
stop jacking off if my son was still going.
Yeah.
And you know, and during an eight hour gooning session, you're going to want to check in
with your dad.
This is how this is how they monitor it, Amber.
It says, uh, during a conversation on the war on technology, it bent in Louisiana's Cypress
Baptist Church, unearthed by Twitter user receipt maven last week, the Louisiana representative
talked about how we installed accountability software called covenant eyes on his device
in order to
abstain from internet porn and other unsavory websites.
Quote, it scans all the activity on your phone on your devices, your laptop, what have you.
We do it all.
We do all of it.
Johnson told the panel about the app.
It sends a report to your accountability partner.
My accountability partner right now is Jack, my son.
He's 17.
So he and I get a report about all the things that are on our phones, all our
devices once a week.
If anything objectionable comes up, your accountability partner gets an immediate notice.
I'm proud to tell you, my son has got a clean slate.
Now, you'll notice he doesn't mention that he had a clean slate.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, do as I say, not as I do.
His son's phone is blowing up with like 30 slack notifications,
you know, like that buzzing noise.
It's just like, your dad just watched
Gianna Michaels big naturals volume 12.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man, his poor son is trying to like,
is trying to like try out for the JV football team
and his phone is just exploding.
Your dad has been watching FUK team five
for the last five hours.
What else so like, you name your kid Jack
that's setting him up for failure,
that's nomative determinism.
I mean, I just like, monitoring,
a father, just like father and son masturbation monitoring
is one of the weirder, one of the weirder things.
And like, okay, if you want to think if the,
as a dad, as a parent, you're like,
I wanna enforce a no pornography on my son's phone,
or you wanna enforce that rule in your household
as best you can, but the idea that you have to enlist
your son to back you up, is that what the fuck?
You're the goddamn potter's familiar.
So if you wanna watch, if you wanna to watch Lisa and then go for it, dude
Why are you waiting to do and list your teenage son in this?
How old is he the son is 17 years old? Oh, that's way best that yeah, I mean really just like any age
I that's just that's not part of the son contract like helping your dad not jack off
Yeah, I know I just feel like I feel like the older it is
the worse it is because it becomes less about parental monitoring. So like you know
Your son doesn't develop a you know fetish for women vomiting on dicks
But like 17 is like he's of a age where
Having sex could actually happen.
And that's when you really gotta,
but because when you really got a hard back out.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, do you think it's like
an AA sponsored type thing where he has to call
with when you have when you wrap?
You get the whole range.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, like the sun is with a girl or something
and he's like showing her, like this son is with a girl or something and he's like showing
her like his favorite chain smoker song or whatever. And like they're making out on, you
know, make out lane, which I presume they still have for my kids and the lives.
That's the, that's the Biden infrastructure bill is to make more, uh, make out points. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's on the build back better, make out lane. Uh, and he's yeah, he's on the buildback better make out lane
Uh, and this is like he's about to get to third base and then he gets a frantic call from his dad
He's like son. I'm chipping
Hand on my hand on my sweatpants for the last hour
I had my hand down my sweatpants for the last hour. It started off with the Victoria Secret Long-Tray Model Bowl.
Now I'm watching like,
Andrew Tates' Camgirl Slaves.
I got to like go to a meeting,
but I'm like really tired right now.
Yeah, yeah, I feel like.
So much like, his son's getting bothered with this shit,
like a accountability alert.
Your father just just watched a desperate college student.
He really needs an A.
But like he's he's he's on the bill.
He's at the buildback better make out lane.
This is a job brought to you by Joe Biden.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks Joe.
He's getting real pussy and then his dad's annoying him with this accountability bullshit.
Well, I don't know. It's also bad if you're just like, I don't know like in trig class or whatever the fuck he's in.
Like is it better or worse to because I'm putting, you know what?
I think a gentleman puts his phone on silent when you're at make-out point. I think that's good etiquette.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even if you work getting horny dad alerts, that's good etiquette. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even if you work getting
horny dad alerts, it's good etiquette. I just like think about if he like has a bully at
school. That's like, that's like, oh, that's like, this kid has a bully at school. It's
probably a girl like me in high school and, and it's ruthless. That is like an anxiety dream like
Your bully is like bullying you and you have your you have your phone out
Even though you should know better the kind of the kinds of alerts that you get on your phone
It's calling you a gay wadden shit. They probably don't say gay wad anymore.
It's probably something like that.
I don't think so, but it is definitely like a five foot three girl like me and like
Doc Martin's calling you a father fucker.
Well, she doesn't even know that yet.
She's just bullying him for being like, you know, rod without a Todd. And then suddenly,
she sees a huge banner notification on the phone where it's like, your dad, Speaker of the
House, Mike Johnson has ejaculated four times today. Contact authorities.
Oh, that would have been fucking Christmas day for me. Oh my God. I'm now imagine like, you know, you're in a
gooning sash. You're scrolling around through websites. You're getting increasingly
talked up looking at weirder and weirder shit. And then you get a pop up and it's Mike
Johnson's face and it goes, it says, new speaker of the house does not want that deal.
They only want to come. Please you help me?
You get to watch this trajectory. Yeah, that's that's a good point is like it starts out Lisa and then it ends up like
Rayll Black doing real a hand tie. It's just like this
like he's gotten to the visual like like the two porn like
the the egg and preg nation stuff because it is, I think for men it's a slippery slope.
Eventually they just, they glaze over and they're like,
you know what, this doesn't do it,
regular sex doesn't do it for me anymore.
I'm going straight to animation.
I'm doing, I'm going like, he's probably,
it doesn't count for like deviant art,
doesn't count with like, you know, you see like all of the Steven universe people
fucking each other?
Like it's going to like, there's poorness to be found in many mediums these days.
That is true.
Yeah.
And I imagine especially like younger people are getting into a lot of the animated stuff.
I, I just like with the app itself. I'm wondering like how
Who created this in the first place and I'm starting to think it was like a stepdad who was like grooming his 13 year old steps on
And the mom like walked in on him like showing the steps on board and he's like, oh
This is part of a mutual accountability exercise.
I'm actually making an app about this.
I mean, the app, the name of the app is like short eyes.
It's co-covenant's eyes.
It's not too far off.
God, yeah, no.
Yeah, or you know what?
Oh, wait, wait, maybe it's the other direction.
Maybe it's like the strange thing about the Johnson's.
Wait, what's that?
What's that?
Oh my God.
It's, you know what?
Okay, early days of Comtown, that's your hint.
It's dad fucking.
Like what if it's like a reverse thing?
Oh, okay.
What if the kid is the aggressor?
We don't know the power dynamics in this relationship. Oh
Oh my God, what if the dad is the as the unwilling bottom? Oh my God, God. Could you imagine if that's like yeah, that's like his Gary Hart moment that he got like aggressively seduced by his son.
The mom is just in the other room doing dishes crying, being like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
Because she's got to know, right?
Yeah, yeah, you can, mom's know everything.
Like think, Rana, Rana, Big think, Rana, Rana,
McDaniel,
Rana, Rana,
fucking stupid name.
Rana,
Romney,
McDaniel.
I fucking love that.
I love that so much.
I love that it's like the most
Mormon-ass name in the world.
Like,
they love doing that where they're like,
yeah, my,
my dad's name was David, so my name is David
Edda. They're the most like Erzatz religion. But she's kind of a like a trailblazer too,
though, like she's like, she's bucking the stick. Like everyone thinks that all Mormons
are hot. And like there she is bucking stereotype. Hard to tell the stereotype.
Yeah, she has more of like a Sarah Huckabee look,
but like she has to go on TV and be like,
look, Mike Johnson's a victim here.
I know how this looks like.
But photo of Mike Johnson and son
emerges on Johnson's yacht, Gooning Business. Gooning, G-O-O-N-I-N-G. It means basically being transfixed with porn, video porn for like 24,
48 hours straight. Straightits the right word there.
All right, well to move on from the master
Breitori habits of the current speaker
the house and his family,
I'd like to move on to Donald Trump
for a little bit and Chris,
we can queue up that clip because I
just want to talk about like Trump.
He's been saying some very provocative things lately,
but he's also been saying the very true things lately.
And I just want to pull up this clip
such about trump talking about a certain world historical figure that i think will be of some interest to our listeners and we're becoming a drug haven you know china many years ago was
being taken over by much smaller countries because they were all drugged out on the poppy feels the poppy
the drugs heroin different drugs but they were all drugged out that nation was drugged out and then poppy fields, the poppy drugs, heroin, different drugs, but they were
all drugged out, the nation was drugged out and then along came a very powerful leader,
you know, who that is, and he said no more. And from that time pretty much until now,
they've been strong, but they were all drugged out and they were, I mean, our nation is becoming bad, okay?
Our nation is becoming that way.
You look at our nation is that you almost say,
how does it survive when so many people are absolutely sick
from drugs and drug overdoses
and all of the things that go with it?
Well, Trump is correct that this country is suffering from an epidemic of drug
addiction, but he is even more correct that we need a strong leader like comrade mousetong
to, uh, basically defeat all of the, um, counter revolutionary revisionism that's been going
on in this country.
Sparrows have been running riot over this nation for a long time now.
And I think it's time we need to have like no No more. No more. No more. No more. It does speak to his like pattern of like he just he
doesn't have any like ideological leanings. He just wants to both with the Israel Palestine
thing. He's waiting out. He wants to see who wins. He likes the strong man. It is you
know, the content is completely relevant. But I have to say one person pointed out
that like the phrase drugged out the last time he heard it was the juicy J song. And so like,
we're kind of wondering if he's into like early 2010s rap. Folks, folks, they're saying, they're saying,
we're gonna folks, should I do it? I shouldn't say I I shouldn't do it. Yes, we're gonna do it We're gonna run a train folks. We're about to train
He um he was very generous to the audience being like you know who Mao is
Like did the audience think he was talking about Hitler or something?
You're I'm not gonna insult your intelligence. They know he wasn't talking about Hitler because the main thing about Hitler
You know speedhead speed head you don't get those speeches. Oh, you're right
He wasn't a good owner. You're not doing as much at or all as a New York girl in publishing
That's what happens. Those bitches are gonna take over Poland any day now. Did you see the I think it was from the same speech
He said that like he was talking about
Jay again and he said,
he's straight out of central casting.
I love some, like love some of his own central and central crews.
Central casting for what?
Like a 68 year old Chinese man.
There aren't that many parts in Central Casting.
There's basically one actor in Hollywood
who plays above 50 Chinese men.
Yeah, I do like the idea of him trying to do
the cultural revolution, but with only 60 plus year olds.
Yeah, he doesn't have a useful cadre.
Yeah, and really queenie, really queenie, like 65,
and he is a taste maker.
Like I really bet that like he got a lot of like Midwestern dads
who sell ski do's to watch sunset Boulevard, you know?
In many ways he's like, he's doing more than PBS
for the culture right now.
Felix, I'm loving the idea of a mega cultural revolution where grandparents attack their grandkids and put iron donts caps on them and make them walk,
so parade them through the villages on the golf carts or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's all like self-criticism and ostriches is should for reactionary
grandkids who don't call their grandparents enough.
Yeah, I mean like Billy O'Pyty would be a good thing to run on like he's attracting the
elderly.
They just want their grandparents, they just want their grandkids to call him.
You know, I think we figured out those are the only people that vote.
It's a good strategy.
Yeah. Wow.
Wow, you're telling me this for the first time.
I'm hearing this for the first time.
A people's army will never be defeated,
never be to be not even once, not gonna happen.
I did.
I did.
I liked the stuff he said about Israel and Palestine
because that was more even handed than just about any
Media figure discussing this recent
Uh, the hatred that Palestinians have for Israelis is a hatred like no other and also the other way for Israelis towards Palestinians
It's it's good. He's had in his bets. It's both sides. He's he just wants just he's like I'm gonna see how this shakes out
He said and it's probably the other way. I mean, we'll see
Like maybe he's like Noah Smith and he's finding out about all that first time
He did I think he's the only American politician who has pointed out that
Israel is eating shit on the PR front. Yeah, and I mean,'s very, he's the only person who's like, it's bad optics and it's like,
that is the weird thing that, like Felix and I have talked about, that it's like,
they're still very delusional in that they think that like, and it's our fault too,
and some degree like, into some degree the UK.
It's like, we have spent so much time being the Gretchen weeners to
their Regina George that like of course they think they're doage. Of course they think they're
they're beloved. They're like living in a bubble where just they have they think that any
criticism of them is like an insane minority opinion. And like they do not see that like the
tides are turning. it's the weirdest thing
I think being able to talk about this too like it sounds like we thought we'd see in our lifetime
no not at all and like most politicians right like you know not all of them are as like
literally due to mental disability trapped in the past as Joe Biden is, but in one way or the other,
they all are in some sense on Israel, right?
Like every, every elected official in this country, safer, maybe like three, believes that
it's 2002.
Like that's their entire calculus on Israel.
That like, there's a brought, like people don't really know about it.
The people that do care have like a broadly supportive opinion, but also that like there's
this level of Israeli competence that just, it doesn't exist anymore, but if their
minds, it does, and that factor is into their calculus in all of this.
But like, I don't know how, like it's been a month and and like did you see the thing that Israel tried like yesterday?
The mind comic book and the children's living room that was stupid
But there's an even dumber thing they produced like a piece of paper and it was like Arabic writing on one side and he brought the other and they're like
This is a a phrase book that Hamas was practicing.
They were learning phrases in Hebrew,
and one of them was learning how to say in Hebrew,
take off your pants to women.
So you can see that proves that we're doing tons of rapes.
Well, look, that's just, that's in duo lingo.
Like, you need to know how to say that.
That little owl told me how to say that in Spanish.
Yeah, it's like obviously Arabic speakers like ripped it apart because the grammar was
all fucked up.
Like I don't know how these really army doesn't have fluid Arabic speakers.
They're probably using babble fish, like not even a good like that's literally what
it's like.
They wanted the phrases on there in the phrase book was they wanted apparently they want
people to believe that Hamas was trying to learn the phrase, how do I drive a tank in
Hebrew?
Who would they ask that to?
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this was biblical.
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and slammed back into like, was it a hospital or like an office building in Tel Aviv?
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and spills it all over the Dowager Countess.
It was just like such a like bumbling,
fucking marks, brothers move.
Yeah, and like going back to Trump,
I mean like obviously he was like one of the most like pro-Israel presidents we've
ever had. He moved the embassy to Jerusalem, which I do have to point out Hillary Clinton
was saying that she wanted to do that back in 1997. So this is, you know, it's a bipartisan
thing. But he also, he doesn't have the same like mystique around Israel that like people who have
been in politics for all their lives have, right?
Because he can smell a loser.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Like Joe Biden or even someone younger like Akim Jeffries, they have been trained to
think of Israel as like, you know, they can, they can defeat any enemy in a week.
It may not look pretty, but they'll get it done. They're super competent.
Don't worry.
They'll tar and feather all their enemies
through their sophisticated press operation.
Like, you are not going to look bad supporting this.
Don't worry.
And like, obviously that isn't the case anymore,
but good luck telling these guys that.
But Trump, who, you know, coming more from the outside,
believes a lot of the same stupid shit about Israel,
but doesn't have the same, you know,
institutional dogma, I guess.
Yeah.
Kind of events, some loser dumb coming out of Israel.
It doesn't mean anything.
If he was president, he would probably enact the same
in credibly, like incredibly, Zionist policy, but it is
interesting that he said that though, right?
I mean, like with many things, I think he can get away with saying things that like breach
the boundaries of like consensual reality in this country, particularly on Israel because
he is probably the most popular political figure in the world in Israel.
And I don't think there's much he could do to shake them
from their support of him.
But as long as we're talking about the PR war here,
I was inspired by our mutual friend
who's been keeping a running list
of all of the Huzzbara meltdowns over the last month or so.
And I just decided to try to keep a running count myself
this week since our last episode.
And I'm just gonna run down the list of what I have.
We can talk about them like, you know, whichever one that you feel compelled to discuss.
But okay, we had a running of a very old script at the beginning of the week, which is the
Pallywood script.
The idea that all of the ruined bodies and crying people that you see in news footage
are in fact actors.
They're crisis actors and they shared some clip from a Lebanese movie that was made
about Gaza.
They seemed to show them like victims having makeup put on and stuff like that.
Once again, that brick almost instantly because footage of this behind the scenes footage
was included on the DVD of the movie when it came out.
So it's pretty awesome.
Yeah, I had the blue purse.
Yeah, everybody loves blue.
She's shoebox credit running of the outtakes from the latest bombing campaign.
But yeah, I mean, like this one is so crazy because like they're like saying, oh, like
a none of our victims are actually victims.
They're acting, but we are dropping thousands of bombs where they live.
That was replaced almost immediately.
As soon as that one bricked, the next one was,
all our victims are real people, but they're also Nazis,
and also the Nazis weren't that bad.
Yeah, that one's fucking crazy.
That, like, their line about this now is like,
well, look, like, the Nazis were bad and killed Jews, but they at least knew to
be ashamed of it.
What, when were they ashamed of it?
Yeah.
Fuck.
I mean, presumably because they tried to hide the final solution.
Yeah, I feel like it was like rolled out with a PowerPoint presentation, like in a room
with different diet coaks.
Yeah.
They were very proud of that shit.
But yeah, no, in the, it was an article that ran in the Jerusalem post by this guy Douglas Murray.
And his point was, and I literally, there's a line in the article where he says, the Nazis
still had, quote, a spark of humanity in them, unlike Hamas.
And also every single man, woman and child in the Gaza strip is Hamas.
So they went from saying, none of our victims are actually victims, they're crisis actors, to all of our victims are victims, but they're all Nazis, but also
they're worse than the Nazis.
This does have the ring of like the anti-Semites being like, look, the Holocaust didn't happen,
but if it did, it was good. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like that is, that is
like the Turkish line on the Airbnb and genocide a lot of the time. Yeah, it's exactly that exactly like that is that is like the Turkish line on the Armenian genocide a lot of the time like
It didn't happen, but it was good that we did it
I guess the the dog year Hitler
But the dog year copy of mine comp was part of the next one strategy
Yeah, yeah, they're both they're both
stirring the knots and the same week that like the official organs of like the Jerusalem post
and like the of mouthpieces for this massacre are saying hey the Nazis are pretty bad but Hamas
was worse because they're proud of what they're doing whereas the Nazis felt ashamed by it and
you know after they spent the day shooting people into a ditch, they often felt bad for bad about themselves.
I don't know.
I feel like a lot of this propaganda,
their wires are crossed.
And there's no coherent media message here
because then it was what the president of Israel, Herzog,
came out, produced a book, an aerobic translation of mine
comp that, as you said, Felix was dog-eared
and filled with post-it notes and highlighted
sections that he said was taken from quote a children's living room in the Gaza strip. And it's like
weird enough that like they're bringing out a book, a book to be like see like see they're not
see is like you know this justifies what we're doing. But the phrase in a children's living room
struck me is like I mean I know English isn't their first language, but I was struck by the idea like children's living room because it seemed
to imply that like children were reading this book and that's why it's okay that we're
killing them, but it also could could imply if anyone called them on that that this was
just an adult or a Hamas fighter had left his favorite book in the child's living room
where they were, you know, attacking people from. So that's why it's okay that we blew it up.
Yeah, maybe they're still thinking that they have their own version of like kibbles
is where there's like a just like a big group parenting situation.
It's like that's the children's living room.
Yeah, it's like they're doing an evil mom to story class in there.
Yeah.
I do like that, the dog eared pages and like it's like a, you know, this this for editorial
review, maybe errors in it, like the like the first review cop you get.
It was an advanced review copy.
Yeah, yeah, Hitler DMed this Palestinian nine year old and was like, do you want to, do
you want to copy my book?
I can send you galleys and the Palestinian nine year old was like,
oh God, that means I'm going to have to have this guy on my show.
No, but it came from like this publisher to like a really chipper woman,
like who works for McMillan.
I didn't even know Hitler was still alive.
And now I have to get him on a Zoom call.
You know, I will, I will point out though that when they displayed the
cop the Arabic translation of mine comp, it was very clear that the previous, the
prior owner of the evil book did underline passages in pen and for that alone I
think them and their family should be killed. But like, oh,
pass. Well, what I think is this like now scarred. What if they just really like
Scandinavian? Yeah. It's a big, it's a struggle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, yeah, yeah.
Like, it was a guy with a big beard on the front, you know?
Bedgaveers, like, reading aloud from it at the press conference under the presumption
that it's like Hitler's my struggle.
And like, listen, listen to this Jew hating rhetoric.
There was a woman in a coffee shop who wasn't,
she wasn't like the most beautiful woman in the world,
but she had kind of like sort of a shapely body,
if you've come in a certain way.
And I think about the way that I've aged
and whether or not I've been a good father
and that's 500 pages.
They're like, this is so insidious.
Yeah, they're like, this, yeah, this is so insidious. Yeah, they're like this. Yeah, this is this is a blueprint to hate
Okay, next up on the propaganda meltdowns
We had that video from someone purporting to be a nurse in the Elchifa hospital claiming that
Hamas was
Was it was storing weapons there and taking away aid from the hospital workers?
But like I mean, I thoughtest, like the credibility of this video
lasts it for about 10 seconds.
Because like, it feels like you said,
Israel loves to talk about all the Palestinians
that are Israeli citizens.
Could they get even one of them to star in these videos?
Instead, they choose to highlight a woman
who graduated from the Gal Gadot School of Acting.
And in option, pain, to fill the Nile.
Is there not one person in the Israeli government
who can speak with a credible Arabic accent?
Yeah, no, I mean, they can't speak in anything.
Like, we pointed this out, but in Wonder Woman,
she was so bad, she was so just unable to do
like a flat general bland accent
that every other actor there had to sound like her.
It was like, yeah, yeah.
Like they were like, well, fuck, she is making no progress.
Could you like professional actors do this?
Yeah, like I'm not gonna pretend like I can identify
like when someone makes a mistake in Arabic.
I tried to learn
Arabic on Duel and go once like eight years ago and it was I think I just I that's one of
the hardest languages to speak so fucking hard. But what hearing this woman's accent I do
know what I knew I knew Israeli accent. Yeah. That fucking spit that like a spitty franchise.
What is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, this was the Professor Talks.
Like, you guys don't know what this is.
This is Professor Talks.
If there are any homosexuals listening,
they'll know what I'm talking about.
One thing that I think is like, I don't know.
It's puzzling with like, I don't, I know what list of his borrow fuck-ups you're reading from.
One thing that isn't on there, because it's like too broad in general,
is like the quibbling over like intentionality.
That I think is really weird.
That's more of a meta breakdown.
That's a meta thing.
But it's like, it's so weird to be because it's
like, okay, if you've killed like 10, at least 10,000 civilians, but you didn't mean to,
shouldn't that mean like, okay, you don't get to have a military anymore? Yeah, like
you're too, you're way too shitty at this. Yeah, I think in like, you know, there was a big intentions don't matter movement in the
2010s like Twitter discourse.
But the exception, I mean, I always disagree with that.
Attentions do matter.
Unless like, it involves mass death.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Like, that's one of those things where it's like, well, You're bad at this and you don't get to play with that anymore. You don't get to use the stove while mommy is gone
Yeah, if it's like we we're seeking to kill like these let's say like you know 40 guys
Who are important in Kassamberg ads and Hamas at large?
Whoops we killed 6000,000 children.
That should be like everyone comes in
and takes away all of your fucking F-16s.
Like that's, you can't play anymore.
You're not.
Yeah, like you give them the like,
look, I'm not mad, but I am disappointed.
Yeah, next up on the rundown,
we have Hamas's use of fentanyl laced rockets.
You guys see this one?
Fentanyl, they're there.
A source says that Hamas is considering launching fentanyl laced rockets into Tel Aviv.
This one is really devious because once the fentanyl rocket hits an army outpost, the soldiers
will leave their post and start stealing copper wire
all throughout Israel
So they can buy more
I guess like we're so we're and then just today before I got before I got online
They're because you know, I mean like there've been just absolutely blood curdling accounts of snipers shooting people in
hospitals like you know, people on
gurneys and in wheelchairs getting shot in the throat with sniper.
Wait, you need a sniper for that?
How fucking stupid is your military?
If you see someone in a hospital bed, and you have to, this is like pinning down like a
14-year-old and paintball.
Yeah.
So they're having to really, because they keep saying that like, Hamas has these command centers at all these hospitals that they're shooting up
So that they've finally gotten into one of these hospitals. I forget which one
But they have like you know some Israeli military spokesperson
Kitted out in the full gear up and his name is like Globhoff or something like that
My favorite guy my favorite guy Jonathan Cornicus
My favorite guy, my favorite guy, Jonathan Cornicus.
I don't know he is, but he was basically walking around, like they didn't, of course, they didn't find any tunnels
under the hospital.
So essentially he was in like just a conference room
of a hospital and pointed out that there were baby bottles,
a makeshift toilet and like there's some papers around.
They were like, see, he was like, see,
this is where they were keeping the hostages. And we know that because there's a calendar
on the wall that like that, you know, expliquates hostage taking duty. And then once again,
people are like Arabic speakers have put it out that this thing on the wall was literally
just like a duty roster of nurses at a hospital. Like they just said Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday
on it.
Why would you need to know the days of the week unless you're keeping hostages? nurses at a hospital, like they just said Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday on it.
Why would you need to know the days of the week unless you're keeping hostages? Well, yeah, there you go. This has to be the least creative country that's
ever. It's astounding. It's astounding. It's like, and Felix, I know you've pointed this out,
but it's just like, is it a product of the fact that they live in this total bubble with complete
impunity so that they've never had to be smart or clever or creative?
Or is it just like this is what imperial culture does to your brain? This is how lazy and stupid it makes you.
Yeah, well, I think that too. And you know, you know, my theory of climates. I just think you get a Mediterranean climate. You all eventually end up like Stovs grandmother or grandfather
connected collecting birds.
I think people sort of project like what they think of American Jews on Israelis.
Like hey, my cardiologist is Jewish.
You know, my daughter's roommate is a real go-getter. And then they don't understand that when you move to Israel and are born and raised there, you're just a guido.
Like these are not? Yeah.
I mean there are, the Afghansi dominated parties are like, they all have names like, good morning and like nice handshake and they're
like they're increasingly increasingly marginal and voted like the people that vote for them
are like you know 72 year old who has a name like an American Jewish guy and is like vaguely against settlements in the occupations but also
killed like 400 Arabs in 1967.
Yeah, and I think also the hamburger discotech Capri pants ones too.
Yeah, no.
The Guitos run the country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, as long as you're talking about settlers the other the other big piece of propaganda
Fill this week was that they let one of these settlers talk to the New Yorker about what they believe in
You guys see that in your view
It's like give it up rope. Yeah, and like look everyone loves giving Isaac Chonator a pat on the head for
I've got like talking to this like
Submental moron, but look, I think for his readership
or the readership of the New Yorker,
they probably don't, they don't encounter
the Israeli point of view that just like,
yeah, we're definitely colonizing Palestine
and we need to kill them all for that to happen.
Problem?
Yeah.
But here's the thing, like, I would love Isaac Chonatur
to do another one of his rye and knowing interviews
with, let's say David Remnick, the editor-in-chief
of the New Yorker, and we're like, oh, what their editorial policy is, it regards Israel,
because they just had a piece out two weeks ago that basically accused Al Jazeera journalists
of working with Hamas and contextualizing when their families are assassinated by the IDF.
Yeah, it would be really fucked up if a news outlet was in the pocket of a particular political
institution. I would never happen here. And then my favorite piece of propaganda field this week
was when the Israeli government accused the AP writers and the New York Times of having
foreknowledge of the October 7th attacks because they employed freelance photojournalists
who worked with Hamas or something like that.
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
And I think this is actually a welcome development because if, look, the New York Times has been known to use human shields.
And if Brett Stevens is killed in an airstrike, it's simply an understandable and justifiable, not intentional, but justifiable act of war to get at the deep
and highly complex network of tunnels underneath the island of Manhattan.
Yeah, and I mean, like, it will stop when the New York Times journalist and, you know,
photojournalists love their children more than they hate.
I knew that was going to end.
They love their children, even more than they love the news.
Like, that's one thing that I found like remarkable about Israel this go around is.
So like, they get incredibly mad at places like the New York Times and like the BBC or wherever.
Really, they've pretty much any mainstream outlet.
They've yelled at for one thing or another, right?
But they don't seem to understand that in order for these places to be effectively sell
their agenda, they have to be seen as at least somewhat trustworthy.
So they can't just print two contradictory things
on back-to-back days.
Like the Israeli press office is doing.
So like, they've already got the New York Times
to print that Hamas uses hospitals
as their command and control centers.
So why would you fuck that up
by using them of being Hamas is beyond me.
Well, there's also like this amazing like they do that like quite a bit.
I mean, they never really did a make up on Iraq, but like they, I mean, remember what they
were like, you know, myths of anti-semitism in the in the Ukrainian military.
Yeah. in the Ukrainian military. And like two weeks later,
they ran something that says,
Nazi insignia on whatever,
Ukrainian military volunteers,
highlights thorny issues of Ukraine.
I had one, I had one thorny issues or highlighted.
And that was like two weeks later.
And I read the second one, and I,
I, the writers don't get to pick their titles,
but he did admit and kind of like sell out the bag and said,
well, we did have these pictures earlier and didn't publish them.
They're just wearing like pointy eagles all over themselves.
And they're like, hmm, this is just like Russian propaganda.
Skull fans, a proprosper in the Ukrainian volunteer forest.
The pointy eagles do look cool.
It does suck that those are ruined.
So I guess where is all this going?
And the answer comes in this headline from Al Jazeera
from just yesterday.
Billionaires are teaming up for pro-Israel anti-Hamas media drive.
The campaign is seeking million dollar donations
from dozens of the world's biggest names
in media finance and tech, semifor reported.
And it says here that there are,
there's seeking to raise 50 million dollars
to do another big pro-Israel anti-Hamos push
And I got to say if you're looking to out cloud the money Hamas pens in the US government and military
You're going to need to spend a lot more than 50 million dollars my friend a lot more
But I just want to highlight one paragraph from this piece
This is under the subhead get ahead of the narrative
US billionaire Barry Sternlich to start the project said the campaign would help Israel, get ahead of the narrative. US billionaire Barry Sternlich, who started the project, said the campaign would help Israel
quote, get ahead of the narrative as the world reacted to the intensive Israeli attacks
in the Gaza Strip.
Quote, public opinion will surely shift as scenes, real or fabricated by Hamas of civilian
Palestinian suffering, will surely erode Israel's current empathy in the world community.
Sternlich wrote in an email-slisting contributions from wealthy figures shortly after Hamas
is October 7th attack on Israel according to Semaphore.
We must get ahead of the narrative.
So two things here.
One, as Amber said earlier, he says, it will surely erode Israel's current empathy in
the world community.
What are you talking about, dude?
Even before October 7th, nobody in the world
fucked with you, other than the United States, Canada,
and the UK.
No way.
And then this other thing, yeah.
This is very jacked on a G6 Sigma.
Like there's like a whole meal coming in with like,
you know, fucking, you know,
hey, we got free lacroix in the lobby.
Let me tell you, you need to remake your story at your brand
Like this is the most like bullshit like consultancy firm. Just taking them for all their worth
Get it get it get that money, but I mean I like the idea like they says real or fabricated because they're like look
The entire world is gonna see basically a non-stop flood of images
of the thousands and thousands of people were killing. But like, so how do we get ahead of that
narrative? We're certainly not going to stop killing them. But I just like the idea that like,
these people really think or there are people still willing to take their money to convince them
that this is true, that they can turn this ship around as it regards like the opinion of the world
or the United States public at large. Like, how, what is the story? What is the narrative change that they're going to
come up with? This is going to get people to go, oh, actually, it's quite justified what you're
doing. It's going to involve some word like synergy or something like that. Like, it's just,
this sounds like just such consultancy speak. I know. And like, I guess like the really cynical part of
me knows that this is not actually
about affecting world opinion or increasing empathy for Israel or their cause. I think like
all of the examples I just listed of these grotesquely absurd and darkly hilarious like these
limp attempts to justify the mass murder that's going on is I don't think intended to change anyone's
opinion or convince anyone of anything.
I think it's intended to give the people who already support Israel something to say when
people get mad at them or something to defend themselves with.
For the most part, I think it's intended to keep people like me and you talking about
how ridiculous.
I mean, I said, if you look implicit in this, I do the show.
This is what we talk about, but it's to get people to debate the specifics
of, can you really believe that they pointed to a calendar and said it was a terrorist plotting
device in the hospital that they just blew up?
Yeah, well, and it's in just everything else, I'm sure the people who run this are the
fail sons and daughters of actual professionals, and they just started a consultancy firm. And consultancy firms make money no matter how bad their results are.
Yeah, sort of similar to the Israeli government, they keep getting money to remember how bad their results are.
They print that shit.
One thing that I think is interesting is, okay, so pretty much all of Israel's anything that they were competent at or showed any potency and
Let's say 20 years ago has completely crumbled right and
From the looks of it. Maybe it was never quite that good. I do wonder going forward
What they're gonna do with how the settler stuff is perceived in the West, because like,
we've talked about before, but I think that, for better or for worse, that is the greatest
threat to them being treated like a normal country. Like, unfortunately.
For that and Amy Schumer.
Well, I mean, you know, talk about who could imagine such gains for the Palestinian causes.
I never imagined that. You know what? Maybe she's, she's, maybe she's who could imagine such gains for the Palestinian causes.
I never imagined that.
You know what, maybe she's, she's,
maybe she's co-entil probably,
maybe she's working with the Palestinians.
That's what I think Pierce Morgan is doing.
Yeah, yeah, it's like, look,
I'm gonna do what I can and be the most annoying person
in the world until everyone was just like,
I believe whatever the opposite of what this woman is saying.
Yeah, but like the settlement stuff is, you know, unfortunately, like when you kill
fucking over 10,000 people in a mug through airstrikes and artillery, like western countries,
even if it's like, you know, just somehow done to a worse scale than almost anything we've seen,
they still like understand that, right? That's still, it's still like, okay, we do that.
But like, state-sanctioned glitch mobs and like handing out ARs to settlers,
and just like, I mean, pertinent to the interview with the settler,
just the attitudes of the settlers,
is like you really can't make the argument
that you're a normal country with those.
And like, to this point,
it seems like their entire strategy with settlers
and how they appear to, you know,
every other country in the world is just to never talk
about that.
Right.
And that's gonna become increasingly harder
and i think that's what the china to interview uh... hit people so hard is
because like he just spoke to someone who's doesn't have the guy all or connections
or even just where with or just even knowledge
to know what you're supposed to say to the american media yeah i'm not like to
do you just he just spoke truthfully about what she believes in
which i think is
totally commonplace in Israel,
but most people who get, you know, asked to be interviewed or put in front of a camera,
know how to manage media. Like they're smart enough to like understand what a global community
thinks about all of this. So they have to couch it and say, Oh, Israel isn't in a part-time
state. Most Jews are actually slightly dusky. But there isn't like, but there isn't like a good version of the settler thing.
There's like,
there's nothing you can say, yeah.
Right, there isn't like a streamlined,
like slick way of saying any of that,
which unfortunately you kind of can do
with conventional military operations.
Like, obviously, there are're way shitter at selling that
than they used to be, and the trend
isn't looking good for them,
but there's never been any way
that they could sell the settler thing
to the rest of the world without everyone realizing
how not normal a country they are.
There's, it's impossible.
It's too fucking weird.
There's just like the only thing they could possibly do
with that is say like, oh, well, you guys have,
you know, you guys like, guilt Native Americans,
which is like, that's just like throwing up your hands
and walking out of the room.
That's, if, think about like,
Portugal brought back slavery.
Yeah, like, yeah.
And they were like, well, what, you guys did it.
Like, no one would accept that.
I think they did well in terms of PR for a long time,
just because they, they kept kind of a low profile.
Like, they, they, you know now they're insisting upon themselves.
But like, you know, when I was growing up,
it was just like, you know,
a evangelical TV being like,
buy an olive tree for Israel.
Like, and then when you really just give them,
like you're not supposed to give them the microphone.
Like you have to control,
you have to limit their public exposure. They have to be a little discreet. And they're
like, people are doing bad things to us. This is dangerous. And they're like, Oh, shit,
I'm sorry. That blows. We like you. We don't what have to do is well back. That's a real
big bummer. But once they get like a full on like propaganda press team on it you're
like oh you're insane.
Yeah.
Yes, yes, exactly.
And I think what we're seeing right now is the equivalent to like someone who's been
playing a video game with a cheat code for the last 70 years and now the cheat code isn't
working anymore and they're throwing the controller.
Yeah.
And like the cheat code is unlimited US support but like I think we're seeing like how tenuous that is
I mean look they have the entire government behind them and will so will continue to do so for into the future
But like cracks are beginning to emerge in a way that I think none of us could have anticipated and
As long as we're talking about this like I would I wouldn't you know
I would just like to encourage if you'd like to annoy people call your congressman and senators because I know they just let it go to voicemail now but like they do actually have to listen to all of your voice messages.
And if you can waste someone's time, I think like there is a certain amount of pressure that can be brought to bear on democratic politicians right now that like look I'm not optimistic about it but like at least you can ruin someone's day.
Yeah and sometimes our spite is all we have. Yeah, because the thing is like, it like this is becoming increasingly untenable for the Democratic Party to continue to go
along with this. And look, they are going to continue to do so, but it's becoming very,
very tenuous. They're running out of goodwill. This country is becoming more problem than
it's worth. And like, it's becoming a pain in our ass.
And it was much easier when it was just sort of like a passive thing
that we didn't have to pay attention to.
I mean, it's just like one of the ways that, I don't know,
it does differ from like South African apartheid.
Is that like, you know, they had like wine and diamonds we wanted.
Like with the fuck do we we we'd be fine without it
I could I got Google maps. I don't need ways
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I love when they bring up ways
You just shit. Yeah. Oh my god. I think I think a biotech thing like I think they might have like kind of a good
But I think it's just manufacturing.
I don't think they invest like a whole lot
in like pharmaceutical research.
I think they're just like,
I think they're investing in startups to prolong life
so that that guy and his son can suck each other's dicks
from one to a thousand years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you talked about how like they're,
you know, they're fissures showing,
you know, inside the Democraticissures showing, you know,
inside the Democratic Party and how this is increasingly untenable.
I thought it was notable how Macron, like kind of broke with his previous stance on
this.
And it's like, obviously no one is confused and thinks he has like a conscience, but he
like a lot of other people are realizing more trouble
in this world.
It's like, this is just like untenable.
You can't treat this like a normal country.
Like it's gonna fuck up everything else for you.
And also, another thing I'm noticing this week
is like instructions going out to be like,
when you're defending Israel,
do not bring up the history of Israel
because like that's a battle we can only lose and I think it's like in
these narratives. First rule of Zionism do not talk about Zionism. Yeah no
initially in the defenses of Israel you would get these longly stemwinders
about how like the Nakba didn't really exist or they left voluntarily or just
all this stuff about how we've been attacked so many times and like this
litany of historical facts that like previously I think people were just sort of like
this shit's boring, I don't care.
And they tuned it out and accept it as true.
But the insistence on discussing the history of the foundation of Israel and its continued existence
is like the more people become aware of that, the worse of playing field that they have to
work with.
Yeah, well, and also like nobody wants to fucking read all that shit.
Like I've been sent like a bunch of petitions to sign and they're like a page and a half
long and it's like, man, I don't even want to read that.
Like first of all, like I think I record on how I feel about the
occupation has been pretty clear given given my career, if that's what you could call
podcasting. Second of all, like, it's they're doing, I think, kind of the same thing where
they're trying to inundate people with information and tell like a real story to counteract the revisionism. And I think that's
the wrong move. I think the first of all, keep the messaging as like condensed as possible. Also,
you're going to get like a ton of criticism like from the left or whatever at the same time too.
If you sign it because they're like, why are you calling it an occupation? It's not a genocide. It's like, shut the fuck up.
It's very annoying when you're trying to be given, when someone is trying to give you
a whole bunch of information to sort out the real story.
And isn't like, is it Rochermon like a three hour movie?
It's just the way to go is to keep your messaging simple and I think
israel's really like hanging itself with like this barrage of you know
of insisting upon themselves with like you know these PR fucking like uh
amber that stories yeah and that's exactly right because the message that
they have to counteract which is the message embraced by most of the people on the world who are aware of it is ceasefire now.
That's a very simple message. Stop the bombing and the occupation. And then to argue against that from the Israeli perspective requires this like Jenga set of fucking like contradictory to have truth and outright falsehoods. The longer you talk, the more people are gonna feel like you're lying.
Like the one of the reasons, like the Bernie petition had such impact
because it was just like three sentences.
Like I like Bernie and I voting for him.
People were like, cool.
I will read and sign that.
But it's like, man, if I don't want to read it,
nobody else wants to read.
Just like give him enough rope. Let them talk as much as they want to like it
they're losing credibility as it is they have you know as as Trump is
correctly observed they're having bad objects they're losing favor just
broadly with the American public not that what the American public wants not
the popular will has much influence
if any on actual political policy, especially foreign policy.
But like, I don't know, just don't talk about it.
Just be like, hey, the occupation is bad and mean.
It's mean.
It's a bad guy.
And then just let Israel have a fucking PR meltdown
Let them try out the guy with the dumbest name and stupidest accent in the world
Yeah, just get a complete fans guy out there and people like you know what I just don't I don't trust this guy
I think I'd say a good place to wrap things up here. But before we take off today,
Chris has an important announcement for you guys. Hello, I pitched this on Thursday show,
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