Chapo Trap House - 838 - Enemies of the Group Chat feat. Alex Nichols (6/3/24)

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

We have Alex on today to first and foremost look at newly released soda rankings. Then, we catch up on reactions to Trump’s conviction, examine the many Rubicons people are always crossing, and ask ...if Barron will be Augustus Batman or something. Then, two new banger campaign ads from new MAGA star Valentina Gomez. Finally, a long reading series about Erik Prince’s far-right podcast group chat, and the various good & normal opinions shared there from the many luminaries in his orbit.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All I'm gonna do is hit a choco All I'm gonna do is hit a choco Hello everybody, it's Monday, June 3rd. You already know what time it is. It's Chapo, me, Felix, Alex. Let's get into it for the day. So to kick things off for this Monday, I think it is responsibility of this program as probably the most sincere and prominent soda advocates in the US media to bring up this story
Starting point is 00:00:57 to kick things off this week. Headline Wall Street Journal, Dr. Pepper ties Pepsi as America's number two soda. Let's fucking go. Dulex and Alex, are you are you happy about this? Are you fans of Dr. Pepper? And are you glad that the cursed inferior cola Pepsi is finally becoming number three rather than number two? I want shit on Pepsi. Pepsi is fine. number three rather than number two. I won't shit on Pepsi. Pepsi's fine, but Dr. Pepper deserves it,
Starting point is 00:01:28 especially after strawberries and cream. Strawberries and cream zero. It's good stuff. Knock it out of the park hit, 10 out of 10. I've never really been a Pepsi hater. You know, I think people who hate Pepsi, I don't get it. Are racist.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, that's kind of it. It's because they had an ad with Michael Jackson in it. Yeah. I've known a lot of people, the infamous Clu Clux clan, and all of them, to a man, hated Pepsi. You know what? Pepsi is a great pairing with a lot of classic foods. KKK members, they hate Pepsi so much, they call all soda Coke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:05 It says here, there's a new contender in the Cola Wars and it isn't a Cola. It's Dr. Pepper. The 139 year old soda brand is now tied with Pepsi Cola as the number two carbonated soft drink brand in America behind Coke. The regular version of Pepsi and Dr. Pepper are neck and neck in a spot that Pepsi has held for nearly every year for the past four decades, according to sales volume data from Beverage Digest. This is more a reflection on Dr. Pepper's quality than Pepsi's lack thereof. Dr. Pepper is amazing, though I will take an outside crack. I think Mr. Pibb was better.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Really? Yeah. Mr. Pibb had a... Well, like, okay, I don't know. What happened to John Kerry in 2004? The best candidate ever who still lost to a fucking monkey who invaded Iraq for bananas. Well, we just got more of John Kerry. He got to work in the White House.
Starting point is 00:03:03 He was in the cabinet. We got more John Kerry like eight years later. In soda years, that's like a hundred years. Oh, okay. Maybe in the future, like by the time- A hundred years is one soda year? Yeah. So Dr. Pepper has been around for about one and a half years? It's like a toddler in soda years?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. Yeah. It's barely changed in that fucking time. Wow. Imagine what like a 40-year-old soda in soda years would be like.'s barely changed in that fucking time. Wow. Imagine what like a 40 year old soda in soda years would be like. You'd be a pedophile. Oh that would be fucked up. I wouldn't want that. That's what happened to Mr. Pibb. Oh that's why they got rid of him. Yeah. Well speaking of John Carey, I mean he's married to Teresa Heinz Carey, the number one ketchup brand in America. And I'll say it, I think Pepsi is inferior to Coke and I think Hunt's Katsup is disgusting slop that should be removed from all stores in America to make way for Heinz dominance. I don't care. You can call me racist. This is an unwoke podcast. I don't care. Pepsi
Starting point is 00:04:00 sucks. Hunt's Katsup sucks. Burger King sucks. All the number twos, they got to go. I think you can only be number two for like a couple of decades before the state just repossesses your company and turns it into, I don't know, pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. Like Betamax or HD DVD. Yeah. You don't see those anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Betamax was better, but, uh, Hunts Ketchup is actually that's the, it's the anti woke choice. If you were woke in 2004, we didn't have that term yet, but you know you were you were buying Heinz ketchup to support John Kerry Yeah, all the crunchy granola moms. They didn't like it because they wanted it to say gathers. Yes. I don't like hunts. I'm anti gun I don't like that. I Always at the time. I always wondered if hunts, if it was the same Hunt as HL Hunt. Like Texas Oil Man. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:53 They struck ketchup. There was one well and it shot up ketchup and they had to sell it. I like the idea of this racist guy who helped kill Kennedy being like, we're going to take down the Democrats by starting our own ketchup. Every time you consume Heinz ketchup, you were supporting the Democratic Party, and you were supporting the illegal prosecution of Donald J. Trump. Which I suppose we should get into that. It's for a further fallout from Trump's conviction.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I guess the only thing that I really have to say about this is that it's produced some very funny reactions from everyone who's been talking about what a threat Donald Trump is to democracy, because I'm thinking specifically of our good friend Jonathan Shade, who writes that, sorry, the headline here, Trump's conviction, the case for a misgiving, forbearance versus the rule of law.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And he writes, almost four years ago, anticipating the flood of legal troubles that would await Donald Trump after he left office, I wrote a feature story for the magazine that wrestled with the dilemma of prosecuting a former president. In assessing the merits of the criminal case against Trump, I never thought the Manhattan prosecution cleared the bar. The case isn't legitimate. It is simply, in my opinion, too marginal a violation to be balanced against the social and political costs it raises.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So to that I say, Jonathan, you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And I guess I'm just astonished by these people, like their inability to enjoy their own fantasies. Like saying that like, oh, I want Donald Trump put in prison or I want him locked up or I want him prosecuted. And then he is prosecuted and convicted of 34 felonies and you're like no not like that. It's like the equivalent of having a dream where you can fly and you're flying to Pussy Mountain. Now in the dream dream logic Pussy Mountain... It's blurred out like in Japan. That's why you can't see it. In my dream logic here Pussy Mountain is the place that awaits you where
Starting point is 00:06:45 every crush you've ever had is just begging to have sex with you. So like you have a dream where you're flying to Pussy Mountain and you're like, no thanks, I'd rather walk. It's more appropriate. And I guess I just like to contrast that with God bless them through the wine moms and resistance dads who are having a fucking this is like VJ day for them. They're all doing the Peter Fonda style quotes about what they hope awaits Donald Trump in prison. Jeff Tiedrich, I heard that he got Rihanna pregnant this week. Oh my God, it was through the air.
Starting point is 00:07:15 They weren't even in the same room. She just got it tested and it was his baby. It was crazy. Yeah, it's weird how they don't hold any other DAs to that standard. People run on that shit all the time. We're going to round up the criminals and then everybody cheers. We're going to start prosecuting more drug dealers and drug addicts and homeless people. People just get elected off that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 They say we're going to lock up all these poor people and we're going to just be cruel to them for your enjoyment and that's why you should vote for me. That's just how it works. But when they do it with Donald Trump, it's a breach of norms. Well, you know, and like I think it's too popular to prosecute him for this crime that he did. It's too much red meat. We shouldn't do it because people people want him to get in trouble so bad.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So we shouldn't do it. Well, that's what he means about like the social and political fallout. He's like, oh, this might this might make our opponents, the people who I hate, they might make them too angry in time for the election. And they might they might threaten to like put Democrats in jail. We think they've never done before. And it would be really bad if they actually did that. Yeah, it would really suck if they put like Bob Menendez and Henry Quaylar.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Well, those shitheads, all, all the easy guys you could go after. It would suck if they went after them. What if they went after Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, though, two people who have never committed crimes? Yeah, what if they went after Nancy Pelosi? Yeah, he's going to prison. That's the funny thing. They say like, what about Hunter?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Why won't they prosecute Hunter? They are. You scroll down in the news. Right. Yeah, he's facing a federal gun charge. And like like like Trump's falsifying business felonies, I think like people are right to say that, like, were they not the president's son and the president, they probably never would be prosecuted for this. But that comes with the territory.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I mean, they are still felonies. Like, so if you don't like, I mean, when you become president, you are under a bit more of a microscope, including the felonies you may have done in the past. Yeah, same thing with celebrities. Before he was president, too, if he did some high profile crime, the DA and the news and everybody would give him special treatment, they would go after him a little more, because he's famous. Like, when a celebrity gets pulled over for a DUI, like Paul Pelosi. If he wasn't that guy, no one would ever know about it. I guess I'm just like, you know, because like, obviously, I think like, they've been leaning very heavily on how this will might affect the public perception of Trump, like will people vote for a convicted felon. But I got to say, I had been astonished
Starting point is 00:09:42 at how like, little I've heard from anyone in the Democratic Party that's touting this. It seems like they're all embarrassed by it, or they don't want to talk about it, or they just think that the news will be enough. Where's the big press conference about our convicted felon ex-president? I think they want to seem impartial. I think they psych themselves out. They're running in a presidential election against this guy.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You can't be impartial. Or they don't want to defeat him. They don't want to make the prosecution look too partisan by cheering, like doing a touchdown dance while it's going on, I think, is their thinking. I think it's kind of like they didn't really expect for this to be the case that won. It was kind of the weakest case. It was the one that the least amount of people gave a shit about. And it is like, like if you're a Democrat, this is unambiguously good for Biden's reelection chances, right?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Like everyone likes pointing out that his base will vote for him no matter what. Well, I mean, you know, you need more than that for presidential election. I think they've kind of like, they've psyched themselves out into, they've sort of convinced themselves that it just doesn't mean anything after so many years of this. And they're instead focusing on like, better things like Biden signing Trump Trump's entire border policy. Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say say, like you think the week of where like the Manhattan DA delivered to them probably like since the Dobbs decision, like the best thing
Starting point is 00:11:12 that could possibly happen for the Democrats in this election cycle is 34 felony convictions for Donald Trump. And instead, he has a press conference about reminding everyone about the some deal to be made for hostages in Israel. Which, yeah, way to put the focus back on a real winning issue for Biden. And then coming out with, yeah, as Biden's wins describes it, another win for Biden. Biden will set an executive order that will allow the US government to deny asylum and deport immigrants who cross the border illegally.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Reminder, Republicans voted against the toughest border security legislation in decades. Yeah, the entire thing with the border security package has been kind of fucking baffling. I mean, you know, you always eventually see Democrats tack hard to the right on immigration. But usually it isn't like, you know, three years removed or four years removed from like Biden cutting ads specifically against this type of thing. I mean, it's like, do you think people won't remember? Well, I mean, I guess like they have polling that shows that immigration is like, you know, in the forefront of voters' minds. He's just going to give them the Donald Trump, the Stephen Miller immigration policy.
Starting point is 00:12:30 And then he's going to be like, oh, this is the thing they love to do, where they introduce Republican legislation, and then when the Republicans won't vote for it, they're like, see? They don't want to govern bipartisanly. But it's just like, yeah, they're doing their job for them. On the other side, though, I have been enjoying a lot of the reactions from the Trump fan, the Trump's fan base who are, you know, really salty about this, can all these convictions. And, Alex, I was thinking of you because I want my favorite, my favorite genre of like, you know, sort
Starting point is 00:13:01 of aggrieved reaction to this verdict is the people who are holding out hope that Baron will become Augustus Caesar and end democracy in America because of what was done to his dad. Those people are so strange. And also they, the Caesar metaphors are all jumbled up because they say the Democrats are crossing the Rubicon. They say that every two minutes. But then also Trump is Caesar. So who's Caesar? I first saw them say like the Rubicon was being crossed during like those weird Trump era hearings where they would make like the 78th most important person in the FBI testify
Starting point is 00:13:40 that they like said to Jonathan Jade column to their wife from an FBI computer. They'd be like, look, look, the we got him. The FBI admitted that they tried to kill Trump. The Rubicon has been crossed. There have been 8000 Rubicon crossing since then. Yeah, it's like the Golden Gate Bridge. It's very busy. It's not that big a river.
Starting point is 00:14:03 It's pretty small. But yeah, it is funny. It is funny. People, uh, people skipping over Don Jr. And Eric who are the age where they, they would be like the next president if, if they were competent at all, they're just skipping over them to the son who's nonverbal because he's really tall. Skipping over them for someone who we've never heard utter a single word. We have no proof that he has the gift of speech.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Zero. And also like if you're holding out hope that Barron Trump will be Augustus Caesar, like look at his other two adult sons. Like what indication would they give you that he is... Yeah. That being Donald Trump's son... And they had a smarter mom. Melania is probably his dumbest wife so just really making it worse and worse yep Melania is the only one who saw who signed like I don't know I guess the
Starting point is 00:14:56 contract that you signed with like a stud horse she's been unable to get out of this and she signed it with an X. Well, they know that's the only letter they have in Slovenia. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. But to the to the Baron Trump, the Baron Trump supporters, I have an article here from the The Daily Caller in their opinion section. This is like, again, they're really not trying very hard because this article is three paragraphs long. I mean, you think they're really not trying very hard because this article is three paragraphs long.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I mean, you think they could squeeze a little more juice out of this, but it's by a guy who I swear to God, I think his name must be a pseudonym. Like I don't, I have a hard time believing this is his real name. The headline is, youngest Trump just found his Batman origin story. And the author of this article is a guy named Gage Clipper. I don't, I, like I said, I think this has I think this has to be a pseudonym of some kind. He has to be an electrician, right? It's G-A-G-E?
Starting point is 00:15:52 Like the name? Yeah, G-A-G-E. All right, it's not G-A-U-G-E like he's clipping a wire to do a wiring? Okay. It refers to those awful earrings people get. Oh, those too. Yeah. But this is what Gage Clipper has to say. Batman has a lot of daddy issues.
Starting point is 00:16:12 That's how this article begins. Batman has a lot of daddy issues. His father was a good man who worked to clean up Gotham only to get gunned down by the very people he tried to help. Bruce Wayne dedicated his life to finishing his father's mission, albeit in an unorthodox fashion. After the disgraceful verdict in the Bragg trial against his father, let's hope Baron Trunk channels his righteous fury
Starting point is 00:16:33 in a healthier way. But his tactics might just have to be, no, sorry, but his tactics might have to be just as unorthodox. And then he says, there are a lot of similarities between Bruce and Barrett. Both grew up privileged with rich and powerful fathers. They've seen what a corrupt system can do to a good man. And both stood by as their fathers were torn apart for daring to strive for better. And whether it's an armored tank that runs on jet fuel or Barron's hulking 6'7' stature, they're both absolute units.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Okay, two things I got to say about this. You cannot be described as hulking even if you are 6'7' when you also weigh 140 pounds and forty pounds. Also your dad is supposed to be dead right? That's the whole thing of Batman. Your parents are dead. Yeah that's why you have daddy issues because your dad is dead. Not because they were mean to him on the TV. Yeah that was not a thing. That's not what happened with Batman. They were not like you know Thomas Wayne you have to stand trial at four really boring trials. You have to go on house arrest at age 87. Oh my God, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I have to go learn martial arts in the Gobi Desert because of how dramatic it was. He had to watch his dad go back to New York and have fun with all his old friends, like Chuck Zito. It says here to Sliwa. fun with all his old friends. Like Chuck Zito. Or to Sliwa. And I'm sorry, like they said they're both absolute units. No, no, Baron is not an absolute unit. He's just tall. And also Batman is a unit like a bunch of different
Starting point is 00:18:20 actors have played Batman and not all of them are like, like, would you call Ben Affleck a unit? I'd call him more of a unit than fucking Barron Trump is. He's not like a stick thin guy but I don't he's not Jason Momoa. The final paragraph is can you imagine the fury Barron must be feeling? He was there he watched the trial unfold and unlike when Trump first took office, he's now old enough to understand. Becoming a brawling vigilante might not be the right move. Let's face it, the geriatrics of the Democratic Party are no riddler or joker anyway. But Democrats have crossed the Rubicon and a young, strong, handsome American Caesar might be
Starting point is 00:19:00 fully on the table. The Caesar's on the other side of the Rubicon. Oh, fucking God. He's not back in Rome. That's the whole point. I love, like, in their mind that phrase means, like, someone did something to Caesar and Caesar went, you crossed the Rubicon again.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'm going to become Caesar. That was his red line. He was like Obama in Syria. If you like your republic, you can keep it. And like this whole thing about like, imagine the fury he must feel. What, would they change the color of Sonic's arms? But like, compare that to the anger you would feel if your dad was standing trial for paying money to someone to have sex with them other than your mother while she was pregnant with you. Yeah, specifically his mother. Not stepmother, his mother.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. God, imagine Baron's fury will be unleashed on this country. And just the whole thing about how he's so strong and handsome. I mean, once again, just absolutely dissing Eric and Don Jr. who like even these people laugh down, they have to admit are both grotesques. Yeah, they've already had kids. They've each got their three kids. Barron's not in the line of succession. It doesn't make sense. Like if you were playing Crusader Kings, which they think they are in real life, it would be, is Don Jr. the oldest one or is it Aaron? Yeah, Don Jr. is the oldest.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, Don Jr. and then Don Jr.'s oldest son. And then if all of them, that would have to be Baron's fury. That's what Baron has to do. It would have to be the red wedding for everybody else. Moving on from the Trump trial and our future American Caesar, do you guys remember Valentina Gomez, the don't be weak and gay lady? No. She's sort of like a MAGA Republican who's running for Congress, who put out a video where she is jogging through a neighborhood and she's running for a house seat in Missouri,
Starting point is 00:21:11 I believe. And she put out a video where she's running through a neighborhood in a bulletproof vest and says something about, don't be weak and gay. MAGA, make America great. So obviously that piqued my interest. And she's back at it this week with two Unbelievably great campaign videos that I think we need to take some time to dive into the first one She shows off some bars. She's got bars and she does a rap song in this in this campaign ad
Starting point is 00:21:38 But I I want to warn you the lyrics are pretty good But there is something that occurs at the end of this video that is very frightening and out of left field. And like we can describe it for our listeners, but it's a very jarring moment at the end of this video that comes out of nowhere. And like I'm just going to prepare you for that before we, before we share this clip. The second amendment is there to always protect my first, a better rapper than Lupe. And I don't even have to curse. Let's keep the American dream alive and put an end to all lives.
Starting point is 00:22:05 BLM raised billions and what did they do for black lives? Politicians promise you the whole world, then they backslide. What happened to Hunter's laptop? You know I'm always strapped up. Gun rights are women's rights, feminists been sold alive. You can mess around and find out, play stupid games, win a stupid prize. God bless the whole USA, even the ones who hate me. I'm still fighting for you today, and no super PAC paid me. America first, America first, the people are hurt. Oh cool, it's a guy in a cat turd beanie.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh my god. But yeah, look at this guy in the car with it. The dude who comes out at the end of this video singing the chorus is like the Winkies diner moment in Mulholland Drive. I don't know how to describe this guy. Yeah, he's got a guy wearing a cap turd beanie who, I don't know, Felix, how would you describe what this guy looks like? I was going to say, this is sort of the worst thing about conservatives in America now is that this type of guy is now a Republican. This is the type of guy who, before Trump, they would corner you, they would tell you, no matter where you were, you could be at your own trial for abduction,
Starting point is 00:23:09 and they would find you, and they would tell you about MF Doom. They'd be like, he wears a mask. Just very annoying, insistent guys, who if people get sick of them, they're like, everyone in the room is an asshole except me, and they storm out. This type of aspiring backpack rapper,
Starting point is 00:23:24 those guys have become Republicans. And this guy is, he's among the worst looking of those guys I've ever seen. He has a very visibly annoying presence. He looks like he has a very earthy breath. Not just bad breath, but sort of the breath of someone who eats only bread that has no type of preservatives in it Really ancient grains. Yeah, he's the guy in front of you at dead in company That's that guy that is like that is what Trump should be on trial for is like making That is what Trump should be on trial for is like making politically activating those guys.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, that and covid being able to say fuck you to the mask people and fuck you to the vaccine that activated a lot of those people, a lot of just dickheads who like getting kicked out of places, getting kicked out of the gas station for knocking shit over with their big ass backpack. Like those guys, they just jumped on the chance to be like, fuck you, no, I won't wear my mask, fuck you mask fuck you and now that they're gonna be on that shit for the rest of their life and before that they probably voted for Obama yeah no these
Starting point is 00:24:31 are these guys are what a hundred percent Obama to Trump voters but another element to this video is that like okay in the first video she was running and like showing off her cardio and in this video she's like doing pull-ups on I don't on giant chains or something like that. But this is something we've talked about before, the workout habits of these kind of feral mega women, like Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Starting point is 00:24:54 where they're always jumping on boxes and doing the most insane pull-ups imaginable, where you throw your shoulders out. What do you think the deal is with that? Where comes this zest for working out in stupid and insane ways? Well, I mean, like it's with Marjorie Taylor Greene, it's CrossFit. You know, that's one type of stupid, stupid injury inducing workout. This lady, she does a lot of like, they're
Starting point is 00:25:20 the types of workouts that you can sell to the dumbest MMA fighters where it's like okay uh you're gonna run on a treadmill but you're gonna do it while field stripping in AK-47 and holding a kettlebell above your head all like all the stuff that has caused like huge UFC events to be called off due to ACL injuries. This woman's doing those. All right. There's a second campaign video this week that I thought was even better. This one is in reference to now listeners just be aware that in this video, she is standing in front of what I believe is the global headquarters of the Purina pet food company. Don't ask me why, but here's the video. Go woke, go broke. This company tried to keep me quiet for speaking up against the pornographic
Starting point is 00:26:08 material in our children's libraries. And today I fire them. No amount of money, stock or bullying will make me compromise my values. So I will never support a company that wants to empower and protect pedophiles and rumors in our schools and libraries. So feed your dogs something that is now weak and gay. This is good versus evil. I love her music choice. Like her music choice is very like, you know, pediatricians waiting room.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Every video she has where it's like, you know, she's in front of like a pride parade and she's like, all of these people are trying to molest your kid. Uh, then welcome to my house. It's very weird because she has the accent, but it's also like, it's so stripped of anything ethnic. Like even her beat, I noticed the beat she was rapping over was so devoid of like any, any sort of reggae tone flavor. I also like that she compared herself to Lupe Fiasco. Yeah and even said she's better than him.
Starting point is 00:27:13 In the Purina dog food video though, I mean I have no fucking clue what she's talking about. Purina is evil. It's feeding children to your dogs. Some gay guys came in the dog food and everyone's mad. It's feeding children to your dogs. How some gay guys came in the dog food and everyone's mad. But I mean, come on. I know I'm not exactly the best representation or the best representative for correctly pronouncing words, but it is really funny that she says, LieBerry is twice.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Well, this is the thing that I think is like ultimately dooms the modern conservative movement. You have to follow so much product news. Like I saw, I saw that, um, lives of tick tock lady. She was getting mad over something that like Fritos Spain was doing like Fritos Spain had like a trans. I'm never buying Fritos in Spain or Portugal. And it's like, how do you know about this? Fritos in Spain or Portugal. And it's like, how do you know about this? They're not selling a home owned Iberica flavored chips in the West Bank anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, it's like, how do you, how are you aware of this? What's wrong with you? They're chasing that high from the Bud Light thing. Yeah. When they got the Bud Light thing taken down, that was the greatest moment in all of their lives. And they're chasing that. They're chasing that high.
Starting point is 00:28:23 They're scraping the bag. Yeah. The tone of this woman's videos are so weird specifically because of that. Like, I don't know how to describe it. Like, like CW show music. Yeah. It's very like infomercial. Lee.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's very, it's just so generic. It doesn't have any of the, like the weird particular idiosyncrasies. And some of the conservative stuff has? You know what it is? It's like the music that the most murderous nurse in your unit makes TikToks to. Yeah. Yeah. That woman in the UK who killed all the babies. Yeah. She's guilty of this stuff. She's bumping that shit. She's absolutely guilty. She's bumping that shit. She's absolutely guilty. I still think she should be free though. Man, that was funny. I love all the British people getting angry when people question their legal system. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:14 At a New Yorker article, like it had any sort of legal standing or anything. I know this country is in, you know, our justice system lives a lot to be desired. I mean, look, they just convicted Donald Trump. But it is funny to see British people get so fucking tilted about putting a woman in jail for reading her diary or something like that. I don't know. She's probably guilty though. Someone killed those babies.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Best case scenario, she was a horrible nurse. She was really bad at her job. So. The other thing from the dog food video is I really love when she says, I have fired Purina. For what? Is this just the new right wing of saying a boycott? I'm firing Bud Light. I'm firing Bud Light from my personal beer counsel. It's an apprentice throwback, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You don't hear that too much though. Purina dog food, you are for pedophiles and you are fired. You're fired, you're fired, you're fired. You're fired. All right, moving on. The article I wanna talk about today, Alex, you mentioned earlier people who imagine that they're playing Crusader Kings, but in real life. This article concerns a group chat
Starting point is 00:30:27 featuring many prominent individuals who definitely meet that description. This is in the New Republic, off leash, inside the secret global far-right group chat. And I love all these stories about group chats. There was the one about how Eric Adams was in a group chat with all these like, you know, APAC donors and, you know, cops and stuff like that who were just like, please, you know, get rid of this Columbia encampment. It is true. If you have an op, if you have ops, they are all in a group chat talking about you. But this one is about Eric Prince's group chat. This is covered in the New Republic by Ken Silverstein. Like I said, when I go into this article, let me preface it by saying that everyone in this group chat
Starting point is 00:31:12 believes that they are the defenders of democracy and that their opponents are uniquely bloodthirsty and prone to violence. Just keep that in mind when we discuss this article. But it goes a little bit, but I'm gonna jump ahead. It says, Ken Silverstein says, I've been reading excerpts from a private WhatsApp group chat established last December by Eric Prince,
Starting point is 00:31:32 the founder of the military contractor Blackwater and the younger brother of Betsy DeVos, the Secretary of Education during President Donald Trump's administration, who invited around 650 of his contacts in the United States and around the world to join. Prince, who has a long track record of financing conservative candidates and causes and extensive ties to right-wing regimes around the world, named the group, which currently has around 400 members, Off Leash, the same name as the new podcast he'd launched the month before.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So, already, first of all, 650 people is too many to be in a group chat, in my opinion. Most of them have got to be just lurking. And if they're wondering why this got leaked to the New Republic, that's probably why. That's probably, you can start there. But also I like the name, I like naming your group chat after the podcast that you just launched as well. That's marketing. But going on, it says here, among the group's hottest topics, one, the Biden regime, which a consensus of off-leash participants who weighed in view as an ally of Islamic terrorists and other anti-American forces that needs to be crushed along with them and its partners in the deep state, such as former Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, who deserves to burn in hell, Laura Logan shared with the group chat. They also are concerned with the shortcomings of democracy that invariably resulted from extending the franchise to ordinary citizens who are easily manipulated by Marxists and populists. The West is at best a beautiful cemetery lamented Sven von Storch, whose aristocratic German family fled the country after World War II to Chile, where their son was raised
Starting point is 00:33:01 before returning to the land of his ancestors, where he married the granddaughter of the third Reich's last de facto head of state, who was convicted at Nuremberg. So that's what happened to Scott Storch's parents. That seems like a pretty good deal. Like, what are you complaining about? Coming on, it says here, Israel-Palestine, a problem that Michael Udelson, Prince's business partner at Unplugged, which markets an allegedly super secure smartphone, said should be handled by napalming Hamas's tunnel network. I would burn all those bastards and have everything above ground, everything left of Gaza collapsed
Starting point is 00:33:37 into this fiery hell pit and burn, he wrote. They're also concerned with the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who Yoav Goldhorn, who was an Israeli intelligence officer until last year and now works for a Tel Aviv-based security contractor headed by former national security veterans, thinks should be dealt with as soon as possible to ensure they don't grow from an inconvenience to a festering mess that will eventually require an entire limb to be amputated. I think it's funny that this guy left his job right after the single worst breach of Israeli national security in the last 40 years.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So these are just like the NAFO people, right? These are just the right wing version of that? They just say, someone should take care of the Houthis. Someone should go down there and take care of that. And someone should take care of Hamas too, in Iran. Someone should take care of that. Why don't we go down there and fix it? What are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're just in your, so they're just neocons, I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, what about, I'm just like, well, if you, if you, if you post some griper shit in there, you'll get banned. Well, I mean, like, this is the interesting thing is that they all conceive of themselves as based paleo conservatives, but like the number one issue in this chat is supporting Israel and killing every Palestinian. Yeah. It's, uh, people don't fall for that. The younger far-right guys,
Starting point is 00:34:48 they don't fall for that. And then also another topic of concern in the chat is most of all Iran, which participants agreed with a few exceptions also needed to be wiped out. Saghar Erika Kazrai, a former staffer for Republican Representative Trent Franks when he served on the House Armed Services Committee and whom, according to her LinkedIn profile, she advised on Middle East issues, urged that the Islamic Republic's clerical leaders be targeted by weaponized drones that take them out like flies. Yeah, Alex, you're right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 This is just right wing NAFO. Because it's just like, they're just like, why don't we just- Yeah, it's just fantasy. Someone should do it. Why don't we use weaponized drones to take out the leaders of the Islamic Republic like flies? Why hasn't anyone done that so far? Why don't we just make a list of all the bad guys in the world and kill them all? That's literally where this is.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That's where this chat goes. Like, why can't Eric Prince do that? He's like a paramilitary head of like, he's a strong man basically, who can go around the world and kill whoever he wants with impunity. Like, why can't he do it? He's too busy promoting his podcast off leash to a group of his 700 closest friends. He's just a media figure. What a downfall. It's like you're supposed to kill people and now you're just like, you're
Starting point is 00:36:04 just another guy with a podcast You're on leash. Yeah, you're on the leash. You're following the leash law It says here Not all of the group's members are conspiracy theorists in the mold of Logan the former CBS correspondent I know many of the people who are in the roughly the same political bar park as the average off-leash participant, including some of the group chat's members, who are razor sharp, even if I strongly disagree with a lot of their opinions. I don't know Prince other than having been in the same room with him on a few occasions, but we have mutual acquaintances who say he's not a one-dimensional evil mercenary as typically
Starting point is 00:36:38 portrayed, but brilliant and funny, and overdrinks greatly prefers to discuss business and history rather than expound on the latest developments in right wing political circles. That's good to know. Yeah, he's a multi-dimensional evil person. He's not an actual cartoon villain. He's not rubbing his hands together like, oh, I want blood, blood. That's not his dinner conversation. Yeah, this guy, you may think he's bad because of all
Starting point is 00:37:07 the massacres in Iraq, but he likes a cocktail. Really? That's amazing. And I gotta say, Ken Silverstein does name all the a lot of the people in this group chat, but he doesn't name any of the people that he considers himself friends with who are razor sharp and smart, which I think is a little bit of an oversight on his behalf. But it says, go go on the article, it says, they will collectively become wealthier and more influential if Trump wins the November election.
Starting point is 00:37:33 That's especially true of the Americans in the group, but the same holds for the international figures because the global right will become immensely more powerful and emboldened if the former president returns to the White House. That prospect is a source of great hope to off-leash participants. Trump, Orban, Millay, it's happening, former Blackwater executive John LaDelpha posted to the group during a trip to Argentina on December 4th, two days after Prince created it. Around the globe, we are the sensible, the rational, the majority. Don't give in to fear. We will defeat the Marxists.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He says his hopes were shared by many other off-leash participants, among them Horatiu Portra, a Romanian mercenary who has recently been operating in the mineral-rich conflict plague Democratic Republic of Congo. The globalists want to spark control for the entire planet, and the only chance to get rid of them is a spark from a great power the USA poacher wrote Surely there will be a strong man like Eric cool initiated Otherwise, there's no chance of regaining our freedom if this part are all your Romanian You're wrong. You've never had freedom. You don't know what that is your country Air Force runs on burning. Hey You have like you have like a pterodactyl.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's your country's air force. You're famous for Dracula. But what he says here, like the globalists want control of the entire planet. You're a fucking mercenary that secures mineral rights in Africa, in the Congo for foreign companies. If that isn't global, that's a globalist seeking control of the earth. I don't know what the fuck is. Like who is actually against globalism?
Starting point is 00:39:08 Nobody actually wants that. Nobody with any money or power or connections. Like there might be someone saying like we should just close all the borders to everybody like capital and labor, just only America, fuck the rest of the world because it would instantly collapse the economy. Yeah, it's exactly like free speech. No one is actually a free speech absolutist. There's no one in the modern Republican Party who's like Henry Cabot Lodge Sr. and wants
Starting point is 00:39:35 total isolationism. That would mean that you can no longer get like MEK to pay for your legal fees. It says here, we're waiting for the signal, the spark. Once again, more tortured Batman analogies from these idiots. About three quarters of the people Princeton invited to the group chat are from the U.S. or live here. The largest overseas blocks are from Israel, 32 members, the United Arab Emirates, 20 members, and the United Kingdom, 20. There are smaller contingents, sometimes a single person from 33 other countries in Africa, Asia, Europe, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Going on here, it says, prominent figures in the off-leash crew are well known for their paleo-conservative political views, which is like their paleo-conservative political views are we need to attack Iran right now. Yeah, we need to invade the rest of the world and spread democracy. Big government, lots of spending. It isn't Alex. It isn't saying the way neoconservatism has either just become the MSNBC house style or has just been completely rebranded as paleo conservatism.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, it's not cool anymore. It's all just conservatism. Like it's all the same shit. Yeah. Like the old branding of it, the, it was like Jewish magazine editors who used to be Trotskyists and that's not until they were mugged by reality. Yeah. Yeah, that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So it's a, they have to pretend to be like Pat Buchanan. But of course nobody is because that would mean saying anti-Semitic stuff all the time and no one actually wants to do that. Yeah. Because it's, it's, it's exactly the same people working for these publications. Like everyone who's like a base Trump guy now, like had a job in the Bush administration. They're the exact same people. There was no transformation.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You know what they say, a paleo conservative is just a neo conservative who's been bugged by a Jewish person. Richard Hanadiah, who's supposed to be like a based race realist, is like every day on Twitter is like, everyone should learn from Jewish people how to conduct orchestras. We need a million Israels. And it's like, wow, this is really bold, Richard. Thanks Maestro. That stuff is very funny. I think it kicked off because they let Nick Fuentes back on Twitter, which before I would have said they shouldn't do it. But after they let him back on, it puts all those guys in such a weird place where they
Starting point is 00:41:53 have to be like, actually Jews are based. Like Mike Sunevich made a whole thread of like all the most based white nationalist Jewish accounts. Like the trad based realist Europa that he's a Jewish guy and he's based. It's like you have to do that shit. I did. I did love seeing Elon Musk, like when he let Nick Fuentes back on desperately
Starting point is 00:42:16 try to coach him into just being like, I think you need to be more positive. I think you should share some things about other than your hatred for Jews and minorities. Yeah. Like who does he think he should share some things about other than your hatred for Jews and minorities You're like who does he think he was talking to? Like why is he being like again like this is why he wants him back on the site But he wants he just wants him to be able to like like launder the same stuff But in the way Elon Musk does through through but just by replying interesting to like FBI crime stats Going on here. It says
Starting point is 00:42:44 Participants chirpily discussed the desirability of clamping down on democracy to deal with their enemies at home and regime change bombings, assassinations and covert action to take care of those abroad. The group's overall bloodlust periodically proved to be too much for a few more judicious individual members who in almost any other setting would be considered ultra-conservatives, but in the context of off-leash, sounded like hippie peaceniks. One of the dissidents, a National Rifle Association firearms instructor who runs a weapons company, joked that he was worried about an unsupervised subgroup of especially enthusiastic military adventurers that formed to discuss topics too hot for WhatsApp, saying,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I imagine their to-be-bombed list is over 49 countries and growing. Many other off-leash participants have also stated that they don't view the group chat as merely a forum to exchange ideas, but want it to become a vehicle to put their theories into action. If we band together, we can damage the other side like no one has ever seen before, exclaimed Jeff Sloat, who worked with a U.S US Army PsyOps unit in Central America during the Reagan era. Felix, to your point about like, just the the absolute degeneration of like these type of people. This was a guy who was doing genocide in Central America in the 80s. And now he's on a group chat
Starting point is 00:43:56 begging people to like take his ideas seriously, and put them into action. You were there. You were one of those. You were in the military. And now you're back on the internet with the rest of us being like, wouldn't it be cool if we all got guns together? How do you not know? That's so weird. And also firearms instructors, those guys are pussies. Those are the guys that tell you don't put your finger on the trigger.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yeah, they don't want to put rules. Yeah. Yeah. They take all the fun out of it. Make sure there's not one in the chamber before you start cleaning your gun. Yeah, don't let your kid play with it. Just kill Jones. They take away the entire point of having a gun, which is you make the rules. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm the boss now. I'm the president. Going on here, it says, uh, Udallson, who also reportedly partnered with Princeton and attempt to buy weapons for resale from Belarus dictator Alexander Lushenko Whom the two men praise for bringing peace stability and prosperity to your country is a Belarus a prosperous country I mean as compared to what? Predicted the tunnel not currently in a war. Yeah, it's kind of sort of He says here, uh, Udelson predicted the tunnel flooding proposal would be shot down by quote,
Starting point is 00:45:08 the Israeli left, a force he labeled the country's biggest enemy ahead of Hamas and Iran over concerns about the environmental impact in Gaza. Who gives a shit about that? Udelson posted to the group. If it was up to me, I would flood them with napalm. I would burn all those bastards and have everything above ground. everything left of Gaza collapse and already read that collapse into a fiery pit and burn. I love it. Once again, he's like, he's imagining Israeli environmentalists are stopping them from killing enough people in Gaza right now. I mean, what is the Israeli
Starting point is 00:45:38 left the environmental position is that they don't want to nuke Gaza because it would be bad for the environment that they want to live in. I guess so. Like the people closest to Gaza, the people that got attacked, like those were the people, the people at that music festival. If you want to picture Israeli environmentalists, it's probably those people. I mean, have you seen Gaza lately? There's litter everywhere. It's true. No one picks it up. Even that was deemed to be insufficiently hawkish for some of the off-leash participants.
Starting point is 00:46:02 In a lengthy tirade on February 14th, Tzivi Lev, who formerly worked in Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said it was rare to see a people as twisted as Palestinians, whose culture worships death and bloodshed. The only solution, he wrote, was to completely uproot the radical Islamic Palestinian nationalism, which was possible to do based on the historical precedent of Japan, which went from being nuked twice to one of the world's strongest economies in two decades. We just did an episode about this. Yeah, we did. We listened to the Movie Mindset episode. Well, the problem is, Gaza is kind of one city. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah, Japan's an entire country. They had a lot of cities and they didn't touch Tokyo or Osaka or any of those. Something tells me we're not going to put the same. Something tells me we're not going to invest in the same way in Gaza as we did in West Germany and Japan after World War II. So there's no reason to, well, unless China's there, but it's not like China's really interacting over there. But like, I know, I know I said this to preface this article, but it is really funny to hear from
Starting point is 00:47:05 people who are talking about how they've never seen a culture as twisted as Palestinians because they worship death and bloodshed. This whole group chat is these, as you said, these guys just venting their fantasies about how they want to kill half of the world for existing. Continuing on, it says here, Iran, off-leash's public enemy number one. It was hard to keep track of all the wars, invasions, covert operations, coups, and assassinations off-leash members favored. One regime right for a bit of a good old-fashioned Western intervention was Africa, which described as a pot about to boil over by Emma Priestley, who posts as customer in the group chat and is the CEO of Goldstone Resources
Starting point is 00:47:46 Limited in Jersey, the English Channel Island that is one of the world's most popular offshore secrecy havens. China would have to be taken down a peg as well, particularly as Biden wasn't going to stop the country from doing a damn thing. And indeed, he would pave the way for it to do whatever they want to accomplish, posted Randy Couture, the former UFC heavyweight champion. Randy Couture is in here? Oh my God. And he's concerned that Biden is letting China do things that they want to do, like build cars. Letting them.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Letting them. He's just letting them exist. Well, Randy Couture, what would you do? Push them up against the fence for 25 minutes? Are these people actually that stupid? These people who run these companies, like these international mercenary firms, are they actually stupid enough to think that we could take down China? Well, this is no longer a superpower. Randy Couture runs a middling MMA gym and so not him. He sells t-shirts under the branding of extreme couture. He's the smartest guy in there.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But it says the number one target on off-leash's list by orders of magnitude was Iran. Follow the source of evil, wrote Montana Congressman Ryan Zinke, who served as Interior Secretary under Trump. Hamas has Bala Houthi's. Iran is the center of gravity. Wasn't Ryan Zinke the guy that like got drummed out of the department of the interior for like selling fake Navy SEAL challenge coins or some bullshit like that?
Starting point is 00:49:12 Yes. Yeah. Or he like borrowed a limo too long to get a haircut or something. Yeah. He did something funny. He did like extremely petty embezzlement in larceny as like a cat. You can take the guy out of the Navy SEALs, but you can't take the Navy SEALs out of the guy. He was, if
Starting point is 00:49:30 his imagination was big enough, he had the opportunity to make like hundreds of millions of dollars in there, but he was like, Ooh, a paperweight. Yeah. He charged the government for a flight to Vegas so he could speak in front of the Vegas Golden Knights, the hockey team. The hockey team! Oh my god. It says here, Yemen's... Another of these trips was the use of a park police helicopter to have a horseback ride with Vice President Mike Pence.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Oh, that's cool. I think he's cool. But like, this is the guy that thinks he's going to take down the Islamic Republic, a dude who couldn't even take down the US government for a helicopter ride. And it says here, Yemen's Houthi rebels were most immediately in the group's crosshairs due to their attempts to halt arms shipments to Israel. Finishing them off would be a cakewalk, but time was of the essence as the Houthis were relatively limited in strength at the moment, but could become a major problem if swift action wasn't taken, wrote Yoav Goldhorn, a former Israeli intelligence
Starting point is 00:50:29 operative. I mean, like, if this is the quality of the global right-wing counterrevolution, I really got to say, I know it's frightening that there are so many Nazis with this much time and money on their hands to be venting in a group chat, but like, if this is the quality of intelligence and ruthlessness among these people, I got to say I'm not really all that disturbed because like look at what the Houthis are already doing. Too late, weren't swift enough. They are a major regional power. You are not getting them out of those mountains. It would be so hard to get them out of there.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah, I love this because like all their advice for the Houthis is like stuff that Saudi Arabia already tried with like American weapons and planes and everything, like we, we, you, some of you guys helped give them those weapons. So if you guys in that fucking group chat and Saudi Arabia is now like, they're terrified of any further conflict with them. I don't think it works guys. One of the people was sharing their insight into Iran and says here, this is Kazriay. I assure you the Iranian people want nothing more than to be free of the bloodthirsty mullahs.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Kazriay wrote in the chat on January 27th. the Iranian people want nothing more than to be free of the bloodthirsty mullahs, nothing ever fucking changes and added with equal certainty that younger Iranians were pro-Israel and pro-America and that millions in the country felt a deep sense of nostalgia for the former royal dynasty. If Reza Pavlaev received- How old do you think people are? Like, 1979, that was, what, 45 years ago? Half of Iran's population wasn't even alive then. Even if you were born then, you wouldn't remember it. You would have to be a baby boomer to remember the pre-Islamic revolution in Iran, what it was like. The youngest you could be would be like 53 years old. That way you were in like first grade when the Shah was in charge. It says here
Starting point is 00:52:31 yeah that but millions in the country felt a deep sense of nostalgia for the former royal dynasty. If Reza Pavlahi received strong international support he would merely be a mouthpiece to be handled by a team of good advisors. Kazrai stated the internal opposition would be much more inclined to rise up and we would see far more defectors. Then it says for his part, Reza Pavlahi, who hasn't stepped foot in Iran for 45 years and lives in a lavish estate in the Washington suburbs, said in an interview last year he wasn't sure he wanted to have an official role in the government if the current one was overthrown.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Going on here, it says, Nathan Jacobson, a 69-year-old Canadian-Israeli businessman who told the New Republic he is a longtime friend of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and fought with the IDF as a young man, had a more ambitious proposal. In order to topple the Islamic regime, he said blithely, we need to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, ports, Qom, where the mullahs reside, IRGC headquarters and bases and oil industry production facilities, which would shut down the country's economy for months. The mullahs live in the ports? What are you talking about? I'm the evil Islamic mullah of Iran. I love living in a missile silo where I cast my spells.
Starting point is 00:53:45 They don't have that many forts. What the fuck are you talking about? It says, the calls for carnage elicited pushback from two off-leash members. The problem is, while doing nothing could empower them, bombing them might empower them more, warned Mark Farage, who owns a firearms and ammunition manufacturer in Virginia, and made the joke about the unsupervised subgroup's ever-growing list of countries they wanted to be targeted for airstrikes. I don't think we have successfully bombed anyone into an ally since World War II. Maybe we should consider more tools than just a hammer. Huge mistake to attack Iran directly concurred Matt Hite, a Special Forces veteran who deployed
Starting point is 00:54:20 to Africa, South America, and Asia, including a 2007 stint in Iraq's Anbar province. We would be inviting 10-7 here. Jacobson was infuriated by the criticism of his blueprint for war. His blueprint for war? This has been the blueprint for war with Iran for the last 20, 30, 40 years. It's the same idea. It's the same exact idea. What if we invaded Iran? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 What if we did it? Someone's stealing my, someone's stealing my idea to strike their nuclear facilities. I love the special forces guy being like, don't hit him directly. That doesn't work. Let's do what does work, which is a sort of like going at their proxies in Syria and Iraq, which we have not done at all ever. Yeah. Maybe starting a at all ever. Yeah. Maybe starting a war next door.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah. Maybe. So where was Saddam? A war between them and one of their neighbors for about 10 years. Is Saddam available? Hey, this, this chat is filled with people who like, they're all suggesting things that they literally did to know. Be like, I want to try this. Yeah. Let's 10 for millions. You'd be like, why don't we try this?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah. Let's try it again. We have better guns now, don't we? Computers and shit. Why don't we try the Bay of Pigs? Crypto's just all this. Let's fucking try it again with the same plan. Maybe it'll work.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Try it again with the same veterans, the ones who are still alive. Send them back. Yeah, the same guys. Yeah, like Cotton Hill when alive sent them back. Yeah the same guys Yeah, like cotton hill Yeah, he goes here so Jacobson was infuriated by the criticism of his blueprint for war We don't want them as an ally He said in a comment directed at Farage let them spend their time stoned on cot and screwing their sheep
Starting point is 00:56:01 He was even more contemptuous of Heights opinions You remind me of the Jews in Germany in the thirties that thought that by being quiet that the problem would go away, he sneered. We have no choice but to hit them hard and kill these cells if they raise their ugly heads. Why are you taking a coward's standpoint? Coward's standpoint is such a funny turn of phrase. Who was in Germany? Who, what Jewish person was like in Germany and was like, all right, if we're really quiet, they won't notice if we, they can only see us if we move. Turn off the light, turn off the light and Frank, he was a guy who ran that
Starting point is 00:56:42 ghetto in Poland, not Warsaw. the other one, the other, like the second biggest one. That was the only guy who like genuinely thought like, if we just cooperate, they'll just let all of this go. Trust me. But this is really good. He says here, so why are you taking the coward's standpoint? So are you going to waddle your fat ass over there and put some skin in the game or are
Starting point is 00:57:04 you content to put others at risk retorted height? Unlike you, I've had skin in the game for years said Jacobson who served in the IDF in the 70s. What have you done? 70s? He's still got skin in the game. He's still fighting. He's still out there on the front lines. He served in the IDF. And like, you know, no, no, I mean, like not to give to undue credit to the Special Forces veteran, but I would say he has got a lot more relevant military experience in the recent past and also probably a lot more combat experience than this shit had did in his service. I don't know sharpening
Starting point is 00:57:37 pencils in the, in the 1970s. Yeah. The shit Israel could get away with it in the seventies. They can't get away with now. They couldn't do the six dayDay War. They couldn't attack Egypt. It says here, I served in the IDF in the 70s. What have you done? Retired SEAL Senior Chief with a Bronze Star with V, with five, shot back height. Bronze Stars are awarded for heroism in a combat zone and are not uncommon, but a Bronze Star with a V for, oh wait, that's a V for valor, not a V for a Roman numeral, are relatively, that's a V for Valor, not a V for Roman numeral, are relatively rare.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Those in off-leash's overwhelmingly dominant hardline faction were having none of the namby-pamby defeatism from Height and Farage. Bomb the hell out of them, Casaruni insisted. Mess with the US and we will eat your shit. We, the United States of America, is still the strongest country in the world. We will eat your shit.
Starting point is 00:58:24 We will eat your shit. Eat your shit. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast. Yeah. That is a good way to describe operation prosperity guardian. Yeah. We're going to come over there and we're going to suck the poop out of your asshole and then die. We're going to choke on your shit.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah. Hey idiot, we're going to suck your dick while you're sleeping You're gonna use our faces as a chair America's still the most powerful country and if you don't like it, you can piss in our mouths Once you get done using my mustache as a washcloth, you're gonna see why we don't have health care Going on here It says former President Trump's campaign to return to the White House posed an even graver and more imminent threat to American democracy.
Starting point is 00:59:10 It wasn't Trump per se or his efforts to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election that troubled the group, needless to say. The danger was that following his landslide victory this November, which was a foregone conclusion, the deep state would steal it again, just as it had four years ago, Utilson posted. I just hope and pray they will not JFK Trump before the elections, physically or with some of their other methods.
Starting point is 00:59:32 What, like, can JFK do something mentally self? JFK has been compromised by other methods, yeah. Like cyberbullying him until he starts cutting. Yep. Gang stalking, dog piling. Sealioning. Y'all, they're sealioning the president. Gaslighting him. It's cutting gang stalking dog piling. Sea lining. No, they're sea lining the president. Gaslighting him. Despite such trepidations, Congressman Zinke spoke for the group when he wrote,
Starting point is 00:59:52 there is only one path forward. He left Trump. It's Trump or revolution. You listen, chimed in from the chorus. You mean Trump and revolution, a right leaning Canadian businessman shot back. The left is too violent to sit back and let Trump win again. It's just like, I would like. You're Canadian!
Starting point is 01:00:08 It happened already. It happened already. And all there was was that the woman saying no. And it took a picture of her and that's all that happened. Yeah, no. I mean, I was just like, I would just like an ounce of self-awareness among today's Nazis. You know what I mean? It's just like, because like, it used to be that they would exterminate their political
Starting point is 01:00:29 enemies because they were weak and they had the strength to do so. But now they're like, we have to do it because the other side is just so violent. They're going to gang-stalk us. We don't kill them all first. Going on here it says, the view that Trump represented a unique hope was shared by group chat members outside the US. He is the best thing. Even in Africa offered NJ Ayyuk, a native of Cameroon who currently lives in Johannesburg, where he founded a law firm that assists clients with interests in the oil and gas sector. Trump all the way.
Starting point is 01:00:59 100 emoji. I live in darkest West Africa posted Emma Priestley of Goldstone Resources Limited The overall situation was such an irredeemable mess Trump himself might not be able to save this shithole of a continent Even Trump couldn't single-handedly fix the situation in the Congo. That's crazy Well, if he can't do it, I don't know if anyone can Country's never been to and doesn't know the name of Darkest West Africa dark. I can't do it, I don't know if anyone can. Uh, country's never been doing doesn't know the name of darkest West Africa. Dark. I can't believe people still talk like that.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Darkest West Africa. Yeah. From my country, from my company, uh, uh, resource extraction limited child labor, uh, LLC, this is really someone who's creating their own problems. I went to West Africa and wouldn't you believe it? It's infested with fucking black people. It's like, yeah, this country I live in is so fucking poor and fucked up as I like strip minded of cobalt.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It says here, they only give us lectures and talk about renewables, said IU. These latte liberators are actually the problem. That was a minor offense among the long litany of crimes off-leash participants laid at Biden's door. Looks like the globalists are engaging this mass illegal immigration, Udalson's, citing an article at ZeroHedge wrote in one post. Surely, with tremendous assistance from the Biden regime. But Biden was merely a figurehead controlled by elements that are actually ruling the deep
Starting point is 01:02:26 state," he continued. The real problem was that Democrats had been in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood and infiltrated by their proxies and agents, as well as Ayatollah sympathizers, ever since President Bill Clinton's administration. Forgot about the Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, that's a real throwback. You don't hear about them too much anymore. It's Obama-era shit, like're about them too much anymore. So Obama era shit like when
Starting point is 01:02:45 Mubarak took over. It goes on to talk about how Lara Logan believes in pizza gate saying of it, holy guacamole. This is actually all true. But then what then was to be done? The answer was clear to Freeman, aka Scotty F in the group chat, apply all tenants of warfare internally against many enemies living among us. America is capable of being fully capable again. Do we have the will to levy the toll? What? So yeah, just apply all tenants of warfare internally against the many enemies living among us. So what is to be done is go to war against the United States of America. So post? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:24 I think they mean post. Yeah. Tenets of posting the art of posting. That's always telling other people to do violence for you. Always what they mean. We're, uh, we're going to post harder than ever. And we're going to post shit. That's too edgy even for WhatsApp in our WhatsApp group.
Starting point is 01:03:40 We're really going to go there. We're going to go to the dark base thoughts. Yeah. That's the old generation. That's the guys who are like 50 and they think they're edgy. And I think they should let the Groypers in there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Put them against each other because those guys, they don't have any time for like the, we got to support our Israeli brothers and sisters and all that shit. They'll just start doing the Jew count on everybody. And then suddenly, suddenly those guys aren't so edgy anymore. It's not so edgy and far right when someone else is doing the Jew count on everybody. And then suddenly, suddenly those guys aren't so edgy anymore. It's not so edgy and far right when someone else is doing the Jew count on you. And you know, again, like they are just fantasizing about killing their domestic political enemies, but they're doing it in a closed group chat. You know, I mean, like they know they don't have, they don't have the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:04:20 It's only in front of the news. Yeah, yeah. It says here, Jesse Barnett, a retired Navy SEAL specializing in active shooter prep and crisis prevention who ran the Indianapolis based indoor shooting simulator Poseidon experience. What is the indoor, the Indianapolis based indoor shooting simulator Poseidon experience? That guy prevents an active shooter every time he doesn't leave the house. It's like the Poseidon adventure except you have a gun. Use this gun to flee a boat that's capsized. He says here, offered a harsh but necessary recipe. We need a Nuremberg style cleanup
Starting point is 01:05:02 of this global cabalal he proposed. Only through accountability can we cleanse our spirits. Once the cleansing was out of the way, security could be maintained by using technology to identify sociopaths and keep them in their place. I would say being a member of this group chat is like exhibit A in this new sociopath registry. But there's a really funny- We should have some sort of global criminal court in Europe where we prosecute war criminals. Sounds great. Let's do it. It goes on to talk about how the guy whose parents fled Germany for Chile after World
Starting point is 01:05:37 War II says, you know, like, the West no longer supports democracy and it's no longer a game. It's time to adapt strategies to reality and stop pretending we live in a free democracy in the West. Do you want to live in a free democracy anywhere? I mean, isn't this like sort of the opposite of what you actually claim to believe in? Like, how can your parents be like Nazi war criminals and you're fucking whining about how freedom of speech is being taken away in the West? You don't believe in any of that shit. Have some dignity. Yeah, does that work on anybody? Yeah. Does that work on anybody? Like, I don't know. It's like, it's into the era where it's all about
Starting point is 01:06:13 getting books banned from libraries and just sending people bomb threats. Like, they don't really care about the demos. There's one really funny part at the end here. Even more farcical was the manner in which group chat members portrayed themselves as the rightful guardians of democracy, even as they employed, even as they proposed employing military force against their unarmed domestic political opponents and rounding up members of the global cabal for a trial at a Nuremberg style tribunal. Again, like going to round them up. Yeah, like. Again, like- He's gonna round them up. Yeah, like-
Starting point is 01:06:46 What international organization is gonna round them up? And like, in these people's minds, the Nuremberg tribunals were bad. They were bad and unjust and evil for killing, for executing all those Nazis. So like, now they want to do that again. I don't know. They're just like, they're right on the cusp of that. Right on the cusp of that, like, the Nazis were bad, but right up until the point Hitler killed himself. And then when we started working with him and we brought him over here, those guys were great. Those guys were awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But when we were fighting them, they were bad. I think that's their opinion. Like, Werner von Braun, he's the man. Dallas real estate developer Scott Hall informed the group he was moving his family to the UAE, which is ruled by an authoritarian monarchy because freedom is real there. You can't even drink. Freedom to do what? It's 140 degrees there.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I guess you can do whatever with your car, kind of. You can go out into the desert and flip it around. Here's the part I'm getting to. That's 140 degrees there. I guess you can do whatever with your car, kind of. You can go out into the desert and flip it around. And here's the part I'm getting to. This is Barnett who once worked for Blackwater said participants in the group chat love the country and want good solutions and that he was not an ideologue and favored checks and balances and transparency. A centrist who leans libertarian and a Barack Obama voter in 2008. a centrist who leans libertarian and a Barack Obama voter in 2008. Barnett said the 9-11 attacks seven years earlier were 100% an inside job and they woke
Starting point is 01:08:10 me up and triggered the political evolution that led to his current conspiracy observationist perspective. Barnett said that he was a Trump fan in part because the establishment hates the former president, adding that the Russiagate scandal that led to his first impeachment had been cooked up by Democrats as part of a politically motivated attack to drive him from office, an opinion I share. That's both Ken Silvershine and myself. But it says, when I told Barnett about his remarks about the need for a new Nuremberg
Starting point is 01:08:38 Tribunal, sounded like a call for an attack of the same type but against enemies of the group chat. He said he didn't favor a politically driven kangaroo court, but envisioned a scrupulously fair judicial process that truly enables our country to move forward, which could be insured by establishing panels with impartial experts such as journalist Matt Taibbi, psychologist and commentator Jordan Peterson, and others of similarly high integrity to help determine who should be prosecuted and To that I gotta say Jordan Peterson is not even an American citizen How is he being put in charge of this tribunal to determine who is an enemy of the state? It really is globalist. That's what you like
Starting point is 01:09:19 Nuremberg style judge someone who can be bought off with a handful of clonopens I'll judge someone who can be bought off with a handful of clonopens. They're all, they always blend that shit. Every single sentence is someone in Canada talking about like, we got to get Trump back, we got to get Trump back in you guys, we got to do it. They don't even, they live in a borderless world. These people, these mercenary guys, borders don't exist to them. It's all one country. It's all one country. It's all America. Iran is like a region of America that we need to pull into
Starting point is 01:09:51 line. That's all I have on the many enemies of the group chat. Those guys are cool. Yeah, they're pretty cool. But again, I know this is blood curdling to hear about, you know, like the, you know, genocidal fantasies of Eric Prince's friends. But I really have to underscore I hope this article did a good job communicating how absolutely brain dead every one of these people is and how absolutely past the sell by date of the actual war crimes they have done they are, you know, so now they're just like, as you said, Alex, demanding that other people not in the group chat, take up the cause and
Starting point is 01:10:28 wave the bloody flag of rebellion against the Biden regime. They just want, they want 10 million Ashley Babbitts to do the work for them. Yeah. Yeah. It's like making your son do the football play that you were supposed to do in high school. Yeah. That's always whenever that's always whenever they, whenever they say this time the gloves are off, this time it's going to be different. What they mean is like, we're going to convince more like 83 IQ people to freak out in the building and get shot. And then we're all of us are going to apologize for it. Yeah. And then we're going to say, we're going to cover their legal bills and then not do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Because we're quietly just kind of like, well, he's going to say something stupid in court and it's not really worth the money and everybody just kind of dissolves. It always tries to be crazy. All these people, Trump very much included folded on January 6th. All they had to say to Trump was like, we're going to ban you. And he was like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, this is wrong. All the way, they'll do it again.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Day of, that was so funny. Yeah. Yeah, he found it repulsive. All those broken windows, people shitting everywhere, people in that building without a suit on, it's disgusting. I think ultimately he really just doesn't. I mean, we've talked about for like, there's nobody who has more content for the people who vote for him than
Starting point is 01:11:49 Donald Trump. And I really think he did not like seeing how shoddily dressed and just what slobs all his supporters are. You're right. They stormed the Capitol. And they weren't even wearing a tie. This guy slapped his own son for not wearing a suit to Yankee stadium. Yeah. They should be Yankee Stadium. Yeah Like him. Yeah, it should be like that video of Serge Gainsburg with all the kids They've all got the fake
Starting point is 01:12:26 And they stay it would have been so visually power. He starts crying like Serge Gainsbourg. Yeah, would have got to him. He would have finally got to him. I would have supported that. That's it for this week. There's nothing to be better than that. We're signing off. We'll talk to you again on Thursday.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Bye everybody. Bye're signing off. We'll talk to you again on Thursday. Bye, everybody. Bye-bye. Bye. The age of your hair, the eyes of your eyes Can't stop me from your youth forever Well done, kids! We're all friends! We're all friends! You can send the credits!

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