Chapo Trap House - 840 - Tom of Finlandization (6/10/24)

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Last week, we looked at Trump’s felony convictions and the various weaknesses that brings his campaign. This week, we turn to Biden world. First, Hunter is in court on federal gun charges, leading u...s all to learn about his bizarre taste crack music. Then, we spend the majority of this ep reading through the absolutely addled interview Joe Biden gave to Time magazine last week. How cooked is he? Can we make sense of any of this? How could we get two candidates this bad leading their presidential tickets? We discuss all inside.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All I'm gonna do is hit a joker All I'm gonna do is hit a joker Hello everybody, it's Monday, June 10th, 2024. We've got drop off coming at you. It's me, Felix and Amber today. I'm going to break it down. And I guess I'd like to begin today with some of the ongoing travails of the Joe Biden administration. Last week, we obviously dealt with the fallout from Trump's felony convictions in the New York court. So, in the interest of fairness, I think we do need to discuss some of the things that continue to play the Biden administration as well as his son's legal woes.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Now, I should say this, that we're going to be discussing a Biden interview and some of the more intractable geopolitical apocalypses that he seems to be presiding over. But I do have to say that I have never felt stronger than the feeling that I do have now that Biden somehow will win this presidential election in November. And I'm like, this is not informed on anything other than just vibes, other than just my feeling and just sort of general like betting on the stupidest worst possible outcome. But I will say, last week when the Trump convictions hit, the New York Times assembled this panel of undecided voters to give the usual like totally conflicted and bizarre like, to give
Starting point is 00:01:56 responses that are like accurate and telling about like how the average American voter thinks that is nonetheless totally baffling and incomprehensible to anyone who takes a comprehensive interest in politics. And there was one thing, I don't know the gentleman in question, but there's one thing the undecided voter said that really stuck with me, and I think it will damage Trump in the long term. And that was, he said, of his felony convictions, he said, yeah, I believe this was a witch hunt. I think the Democrats are out to get him.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But nonetheless, if you're supposed to be a billionaire and you can't commit tax fraud and falsification of business records without the feds getting you, then you are not a competent chief executive. And then he also said, there are so many more attractive porn stars other than Stormy Daniels to make an sex review. So many more attractive porn stars other than Stormy Daniels. So I just like I think like calls into question both his judgment and his taste because I mean I think the biggest liability for Biden is his age. And as we've said before, the biggest liability for Trump is that he's a known quantity and
Starting point is 00:03:01 that quantity is loser. And just like even if you think the felony convictions are, uh, illegitimate in some way, it doesn't speak well of, of this, uh, American Caesar figure to not be able to get away with paying off a mistress to keep her mouth shut. Yeah. Alvin Bragg, even the most unimpressive Caesar, even the Caesar of like Cicero Illinois would be able to overcome Alvin
Starting point is 00:03:27 you could overcome Alvin Bragg by gifting someone in his office Hulu premium not even the kind with no ads just less ads he's crossing the ruby Tuesdays con yeah that's another thing i'm sick of how many fucking Rubicons are there in America? I'm so sick of it. Anytime something like this happens, people are like, the Rubicon's been crossed. Watch me lay down another year. I think it speaks to the fact that Americans at this point love a scammer. Oh, it's not for you.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It's more of a Shelbyville idea. Now, wait just a minute. We're twice as smart as the people of Shelbyville. Just tell us your idea and we'll vote for it. But we hate it when they're bad at it. It's a different kind of loser. Like, you know, there's the suckers who get scammed, and then there's the guy who just trips over his own dick trying to screw everyone over. And like, that guy's just more embarrassing. Oh, this is bad. This is really bad.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You're working your slave and you steal just enough for a sweet lick of that shiny brass ring. Don't I get a lick? Doesn't Gil get a lick? You know, Amber, you're right. It's sort of like the difference between how Martha Stewart remains a beloved cultural figure and in fact is probably even more beloved for having done a bit in prison. And Elizabeth Holmes is just like, loser, get her out of here. She's the bad kind of scammer, the one who believed her own bullshit and is now doing a 10 year stretch. I will never forget what my, uh, my dad said his legal analysis of the Martha Stewart case in 2002. He was like, really, they're just sending her to prison
Starting point is 00:05:05 because she's a bitch, but I bet Penn lay's a bitch too. And I was like, yeah. She was largely disliked, yeah. I mean, it's not like she did anything that they don't all do. Yeah, no, that's exactly what he meant. And he was right. That was at the core of it. And he would know he was right. That is that was, you know, at the core of it. It was just that she was like mean and they were like, oh, you, you know, this woman
Starting point is 00:05:31 who's made seven hundred trillion dollars off of like finished cutting boards. Oh, you made twenty thousand dollars on a stock that doesn't exist anymore. We're going to kill you. So, yeah, it's just it's yeah, I think it's not so much that Trump is a felon. I think it's just that he's an incompetent one. And the things he's getting convicted for are embarrassing penny anti crimes. You know, he's not exactly John Dillinger over here. You know, he's not like Bonnie and Clyde.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But we but we should talk about Joe Biden's son, who is facing some legal difficulties of his own. And you know, like, this is, this is why it's my advice, never to get involved in a trial of any kind, if at all possible avoid being prosecuted. Because especially if you're a person of note, all of your exes will be called to testify about what a shitty person you are. But the funny thing about the Hunter Biden trial where he's facing, what is it? Like federal gun charges because you can't own a gun or possess a gun if you're a drug addict, which seems sort of unconstitutional to me. It's a weird one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Like there's so many things that could have like there's so many things that could have. There's so many things that could have got him on. And it was just like the most white trash. It's something that like my stepbrother would get in trouble for. It's not supposed to be the son of the president. That's what they it's what they get every rapper for on federal gun charges. If you have like any type of felony at all, like you do federal time, if you've bought a handgun,
Starting point is 00:07:11 you remember when Lil Wayne was like in Rikers for a year? That's what they got him. It's like the charge that US attorneys use for rappers. With Hunter Biden, I know he's a crackhead, but it's like, aren't you like a lawyer? What he is, I don't think I've ever looked into his education or I don't I don't I've just completely shoved that to the back of my mind. Right now. He's just hunter the way like Paris Hilton was paired like, like, he's just, he's just a he's just a fear. He's just another wacky another wacky disaster. I mean, the thing I like about this trial, though, is that the prosecution is calling like all of his ex girlfriends and former
Starting point is 00:07:54 paramourists to testify, but it does seem like it is. I mean, like, it seems like they're being character witnesses for Hunter Biden. I'm just going to read here from the Politico account. It says, two of Hunter Biden's exes describe his years of drug abuse. And I know the prosecution, like they think they're nailing him to the cross with this, but it says here, Wilmington, Delaware, Hunter Biden's federal trial on gun related charges took a personal turn on Wednesday as two of his former romantic partners, including his ex-wife Kathleen Beale, took to this witness
Starting point is 00:08:24 stand and described Biden's years of abuse and crack cocaine. Both women were called by prosecutors who have charged the president's son with three felonies stemming from the purchase of a handgun on October 2018. Prosecutors say he lied about his drug addiction on a federal gun purchasing form, then he legally possessed the gun for about two weeks. So going on it says says the next witness, Zoe Kestin, a former romantic partner of Biden, she testified she met him on December 17th, 2017, when she worked at a strip club in Midtown Manhattan and he booked her and another woman for a private dance.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Biden played the music by the indie folk band Fleet Foxes on his phone and he smoked something she assumed was crack. That's the most- That's embarrassing. That's not stripper music. He's gotta be the first guy in history to smoke crack to the Fleet Foxes. That's insane. Like that is- put him in supermax. Yeah, this is why you don't wanna get prosec prosecuted. You did. They're gonna parade all your exes out. I would kill myself. Well, Amber, yeah, listen to this, though. I mean, there's an embarrassing disclosure that he smokes crack while listening to Fleet Foxes, which, you know, can I
Starting point is 00:09:36 recommend a little Hall and Oates, you know, private eyes are watching you. They see your every move. But I want to say there's one quote here that right after it says and you listen to the indie band Fleet Foxes and smoke something she assumed was crack then she says quote I felt really safe around him she said fellas fellas this is what I got to say here this is the way women treat you this is the way females treat you when you're over six feet tall. You can literally be smoking crack in front of them all day long and they will say shit like, I feel really safe around him.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He was so alert and present at all times. He had something to say instantly. He was really listening, really hard. I like that this is part of the legal process, like a humiliation ritual. I like the, like, if I, if I ever like, if I like committed securities fraud, I imagine that they would do, they would just bring in every girl I've ever known. And they would be like, he made me watch Pink Floyd's, the wall on DVD. 20 minutes to find a DVD player
Starting point is 00:10:45 and it was underneath a pile of pants. I would be, I would be. You can't object, it's not, even though it's not related. He used to fall asleep in his pants and his jeans and not take his money out, so when he woke up in the morning, he would be walking around and coins would just be falling off of his of his back because they stopped him throughout the night. Like an 80's submitted stereo.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Just ding ding ding ding ding. Objection, objection. I would ask the court to have Miss Frost's comment stricken from the record. The jury will ignore that. By the way, speaking of a stitched up trials going on right now, Felix, I know you saw that clip from the young thug trial that's going around. That shit is insane. Has anyone in Georgia has anyone in Georgia passed the fucking bar? Like what the judge of that case is like, call the order.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It's illegal for the defense to have secrets. No secrets in the courtroom. I mean, it's amazing to me that this story isn't getting like, it's crazy. This story is broken by like, Young Thugger fan account, like YSL News. It's amazing, because there are cameras in this trial. And basically, Young Thug's defense,, his attorney just got hit with a contempt charge
Starting point is 00:12:08 and was taken out of the court by the bailiff because he confronted the judge with information he received about an ex parte communication between the judge, the prosecutor and a witness, compelling him to testify that he wasn't present for. And the judge is like, but before we deal with any of that, I'm going to need to know who told you that. And like, confirm that this communication took place. But then it was just like, I'm going to give you five minutes to tell me who told you this. And then or else we're going to have problems. Like it's insane. Like I get like if you're you know, there are a billion judges that
Starting point is 00:12:41 like, they are, they're not impartial, they're completely allied with the prosecution. That's probably like most criminal courts in America, right? But most of the time, they don't do it in such a slapdash fashion where they are creating the most appealable case of all time. Even at this point, if this doesn't get like if another court doesn't intervene or this doesn't just get fucking thrown out or whatever, like how how will this not be appealed to oblivion? This is one of the like the most fucked up
Starting point is 00:13:16 courts I have ever seen in my life. Like was this like was it his first day? Rico trial like he had never been a judge before. He just passed the bar. Was he one of those like county lawyers? Jack McCoy would never would never let some shenanigans like this. Was he wearing like a I bet he was wearing like a seersucker suit under the robe. Like he wanted he wanted to sort of embody a kind of like classic, you know, thing but he was like kind of resentful about like he they wouldn't let him wear the outfit. It put him in a sour mood.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Ever he's a sicko. So he's he's he's completely nude from the waist down. But he's still wearing suspenders. He's still wearing suspenders just like clipped to an elastic waistband and nothing else. His judicial gown. sock garters too. He just likes to he likes to feel to, he likes to feel it snap. He likes to feel a snap when he issues a contempt charge. Absolute pervert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's probably mad. He's probably mad because he wanted to like do a good, like old fashioned race, like a Southern racist case. Yeah. Where it's like someone like whistled at a woman or something like that. Someone stole molasses. Yeah, time to kill case. But no, he has to do the young thug case,
Starting point is 00:14:33 the most confusing case ever. The young thug case is, you know, it is a racially swapped version of the Lev Parnas affair as far as I'm concerned. I'm so confused There's so many love parties in this case I didn't know there were so many lead parties in Atlanta. I Saw I saw I saw another amazing clip from it We're for one of the witnesses pleaded the fifth one asked how old are you and then they were like you can answer the question
Starting point is 00:15:01 How old are you and he just says I'm an adult Such a good answer. I think that was such a good answer. So, sorry, just to return to the other miscarriage of justice in the Hunter Biden trial. Speaking of the young lady who said she felt very safe around him, she saw him again a week later and they stayed together for five days at the Soho Grand Hotel. He typically smoked crack every 20 minutes, she testified, and that he was just so charming and so nice.
Starting point is 00:15:32 At the time, I felt myself having feelings for him. Women are demons. Women are demons. What is this woman's life? What guys did she date before Hunter Biden? This is like I said, when you're six feet tall or or or above that, you can do anything you can do. And you can smoke crack and listen to the fleet foxes and women
Starting point is 00:15:53 will find themselves falling for you. If you think about it, Hunter is the opposite of, you know, a very typical five nine boyfriend that many women have experienced. The guy who's one in particular is not I don't think you do this. I've never seen you do this. I don't think you would do it. It's for a different type of guy. It's the type of guy where him and his best gal are always going to local establishments. And within an hour, he's always like trying to grab her wrist for some reason they're going the late guy and
Starting point is 00:16:30 You know a tall striking crack addicted lawyer is kind of the opposite of that. He's not gonna grab your wrist He's like just go if you want. Yeah, he's got other things on his mind. Yeah Yeah, he's got other things on his mind. Yeah, I've got practice mode. Yeah, go or don't or stay here and listen to, uh, listen to Feist while I smoke while I pre-pick. Listen to all the songs that they use to advertise the iPod Nano and the Shutterworks 2004 with me. Yeah, he just puts on like the Starbucks mixtape and he's just like, actually, Regina Spector's
Starting point is 00:17:06 later work is really good. It's like he has never listened to his song. Like he does have like he did have that like one rap song that he showed his lawyer. But beyond that, it is all exclusively shit that was used to advertise the Zune. Yeah. It is industry plant, like indie stuff. It's such a distinct soundscape that he has. It's Starbucks music.
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's just like you can ignore it and you can't tell them apart. And I think that maybe it's kind of like, you know, crack keys up. So I'm told and like maybe he needs like kind of a white noise and that's his version of like playing crashing waves or whatever. So he doesn't like jump out a window. Yeah. I think, yeah, I think he probably had like, he probably has like bad experiences listening to like, by his age. Yeah. Rush. No effects. Like, like harder stuff. What do you first start smoking crack? And he freaked out, you know, he like, he ran through a plate glass window. He like, you know, he probably did some of the things from American Psycho. Like he tried to put a kitten into an ATM. He did all that stuff. And he was
Starting point is 00:18:27 like, no more, no more early nineties pop punk or anything for me. That's that gets me too crazy. He was a sound we are going to listen to the sounds of Dumbo, New York City, Brooklyn in 2004. No, she was on an hour, hour, hour 65 of a cocaine crack vendor and I was hitting up the ATM to take out another few hundred dollars and for a brief second the screen said, feed me a major. Look, we joke around a lot. We don't approve of when Patrick Bateman did that to the cat.
Starting point is 00:19:08 In the book. No, I think he's actually not a role model. I don't think he's cool at all. Yeah. Come on, Bryce. There are a lot more important problems than Sri Lanka to worry about. Like what? Well, we have to end apartheid for one and slow down the nuclear arms race,
Starting point is 00:19:26 stop terrorism and world hunger. Patrick, how thought provoking. Well, moving on from the sins of the son to the sins of the father. The other week, Joe Biden gave an interview to Time magazine. And I thought this would be good. I have a transcript of the interview here. And the only way I think we could do justice to this interview is if Felix reads the Biden parts, because this was comprehensively the most E1 Biden that we've seen in a while.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So I mean, like just this sort of like there are a couple of big, big issues confronted in this interview of, like I mean, like, just this sort of like, there are a couple of big, big issues confronted in this interview of, like I said, the several geopolitical catastrophes that are currently unfolding on his watch. But like, let's just, let's just get a little glimpse inside the Biden White House. And the other funny thing about this interview is that like, four of his aides, including John Kirby, were in the room while the interview was being given and interjected various moments. So for this interview, I will be reading the part of the Time magazine journalist and Felix
Starting point is 00:20:33 will be playing the part of Joe Biden. Now I've given Felix instructions that these answers are kind of long. So feel free to trail off into incoherence at will. And you will basically accurately capture the nature of this conversation that Joe Biden had. So without further ado, this is a Time Magazine's interview with Joe Biden. Thank you for doing this, Mr. President. We appreciate your time. Busy moment. I'll dive right in. You're traveling next week to Normandy for the 80th anniversary of D-Day to commemorate a turning point in America's leadership with the free world.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But the anniversary comes at a time when the U.S. under your leadership has been unable to deter a crisis, first in Afghanistan, then Ukraine, Israel, and mounting tensions in the Far East. Is America still able to play the role of world power that it played in World War II and in the Cold War? Yeah, we're playing it even more. We are, we're the world power and what I inherited as a consequence of the mistakes that we made, they all made in Afghanistan, it's not a loss in Afghanistan, Excuse my cold.
Starting point is 00:21:49 We are, we've had compared to the rest of the world put together as strong as lines and history is the world. Number one, number two, we're not number two, number two, the order of the, the, the thing, if you're black, listen to the radio, we're in a situation where we have to be able to move in a way that recognizes how much of the world has changed and still lead the world. And it's in our security. For example, the idea that if when Putin decided to go to Russia, I mean, if he's going to go from Russia into Ukraine, the reason why I
Starting point is 00:22:26 cleared the intelligence so we can release the information we knew that he was going to attack was to let the world know he was still in charge. We still know what's going on. I know what's going on. I'm here. You're here. Welcome to the room. This point he pulls out a copy of his speech that Putin delivered on the eve, on the day of the declared war.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's the address to the Russian people on the Donbass problem on February 21 when Moscow was going in and it lays out why I believe Trump, what he never understood, which is that Russia, he wasn't just going into Moscow, I mean, from Russia into Ukraine for purposes of keeping from weapons. Have you believed it is an essential part of Russia from the beginning? This is holy fuck. I've added, I added some things before the, but it like the last thing I read is like, you really get dissociative when you read this, trying
Starting point is 00:23:35 to read this out loud. It's this is fucking crazy. Number two, NATO is considerably stronger than it was when I took office. I put it together. Not only did I reestablish the fact that it was the strongest alliance in the history of the world, I was able to expand it. Well, I was in the G7 meeting in Europe. When I got back, I called the president of Finland, Tom Finland, big strong man type of guy, you know, when I had. Met earlier this year with Putin. He said he wanted to
Starting point is 00:24:05 see the finlandization of NATO. He wanted those drawings everywhere he said I don't care if it's a sailor, policeman, strong man, you can get me one type of guy who's no shorter than six foot two, no taller than six foot five, he taller than six foot five. He's wearing one of those leather hats. It's like a train conductor hat, but it's made out of patent leather. It's so shiny. You could floss your teeth into it. Not that you would with all that's going on and respect to the world, but we're
Starting point is 00:24:39 going to put Tom of Finland everywhere. He's going to be everywhere. And for once we're going to, and this is important. We're going to have him draw someone. We ain't white for a change. That's not how it ends. He just keeps talking about like in the actual transcript, he keeps talking about the Finlandization of NATO and he doesn't explain what the fuck
Starting point is 00:25:06 that means at all. It just ends. I really like this part of the interview because it's like this is this is very clear that like, okay, let's make a good case for Biden's leadership of the on the world stage. And this is a good example of how it is permanently 1963 right before Kennedy got shot in Joe Biden's brain because like the actual quote is he says, he said he wanted to see the Finlandization of NATO. I told him he's not going to get the Finlandization, the NATOization of Finland.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And everyone, he said, I told him he's not, he's going to get not the Finlandization, the NATOization of Finland. And everybody thought, including you guys, thought I was crazy. So he's saying Putin wanted to see the Tomofinlandization of NATO, but instead he got the NATOization of Tom of Finland. And everyone thought he was crazy for saying that, including you guys. I'll never forget that week in 2022 when we were all like, he's not gonna, he's, there's no way that he's gonna make NATO into Finland or vice versa.
Starting point is 00:26:13 He's crazy. And then he did it. I have never wished more. I wish the animus from the Assassin's Creed was real. I've never wanted to go inside someone's mind so bad. It's like, what does he mean? What does this mean? I can usually figure it out. But like the Finlandization thing is insane. If this was like, if this was 19, like not even the 80s, if this was 1995, this would be like disqualifying.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Like you would be out of politics if you gave this interview. I also, I don't know that much about Finland except they have good schools and kids don't learn to read or go to school until they're eight and there's a city called Espoo, which is funny to me. Other than that, and I feel like I know stuff about places, but I couldn't tell you. I couldn't even venture a guess about anything related to Finland. Here's a fun finn fact for you. Finnish is one of the only European language that is non-Indo-European in its roots. It is Uralgic, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And the Basque language. Yeah, and the language have no common anticy like the people linguists don't know where the fuck it came from people. I think they're making it. Yeah. Your algae. Yeah. I like I like the Finnish. I mean, I don't like I don't you know, I don't agree with what they did in World War Two. They were not right to do that, but. I, their general vibe. I like that they're like, uh, Hey, we're not going to do these wacky Nordic languages, we're going to throw some J's all over the place.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I don't know, man. I gotta say Brazil needs to grow up. Speak Spanish, grow up. That's ridiculous. None of us are going to take it seriously until you do that. I'm sorry. Shut up. By the way, I looked up Finlandization, the process whereby a country is induced to favor or refrain from opposing the interests of a more powerful country, so like every small country, despite not being politically allied to it, originally with reference to the influence of the former Soviet
Starting point is 00:28:27 Union on its neighbor Finland. So I guess the issue is that they didn't have a problem with the Soviet Union. I mean, they did during the winter war. I guess he means that like NATO, like they bought more jets, maybe it's so, it's so hard That's what you're saying about it like he's he's permanently in like the very early cold war yeah Yeah, yeah, it's not even like if it's not even like, you know when his career like Sort of like middle of his career in the late 80s, what he gave us Clarence Thomas, it's like, these are things that
Starting point is 00:29:09 Dean Atchison talked about. It's so weird. No, but I just love it. Like, like, this is his big, this is his big, like, dunk. He's just like, I bet y'all thought NATO was gonna get Finland does eyes. But in fact, it's Finland that got NATO eyes. And y'all thought I was crazy for saying that. You thought I was talking about my man's Finland? But I mean, I want to use this like to use this interview is just like a brief tour through the world of atrocity.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But as long as you're talking about the Russia-Ukraine war, I did want to highlight a tweet I saw this morning that's one of the most deranged things I've ever read. Maybe you've already seen me post about it this morning. But it comes courtesy of a guy named Nicholas Drummond, whose bio lists him as a defense industry analyst and consultant specializing in land warfare, former British Army infantry offer, UK advisor to KNDS.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Views expressed are my own. Now I guess maybe I should have read this first, but like it will not shock you to find out that this guy is a self-proclaimed British infantry officer, because here's what he says. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is 43 years old. Good. Old men can't run away quickly, so they stand their ground, fight to the death,
Starting point is 00:30:28 and then make themselves a cup of coffee. To which I have to say, I know I'm really getting old when I am of the average age of a Ukrainian soldier conscript into their army. And like, I mean, and this does not augur well for the cause of Ukrainian nationalism, but like, I mean, think this does not augur well for the cause of Ukrainian nationalism, but like, I mean, think about how grim that is. Jesus Christ. Your biggest strength is that you have bad knees.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That's why I can't I can't run. So I have to fight and die and then make coffee. I mean, like I said, not a surprise that this guy is a British infantry officer, because he just sees everyone on the planet as potential cannon fodder. And I guess just like, is LeBron's late in career success giving people an inaccurate idea of how good 43 year olds are? I know they didn't make the playoffs. I know he's putting up good numbers, but this is like the opposite of the IDF with their like 18 year old colonels.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Now it's like the 40 year the IDF with their 18 year old colonels. Now it's like the guys are fighting with 40 year old guys. Is the average age. It's really fucking depressing. I mean, yeah, Andalou, the Turkish news source, released a picture of guys who probably signed up to be on home defense or maybe were even press g ganged into this like we've seen with some people guys on the front lines who at their youngest were in their fifties and like just the fact that like no one in the American security state even feels like a paying of guilt over this like that there was a chance to negotiate and possibly end this and they're like, nah, let's keep this rolling forever. When is the war ever gotten worse?
Starting point is 00:32:11 I see nothing but good things in sight. And now it's this, like the thing that they keep pointing to, even though that like they're like just fucking dipping into their country's reserve of middle-aged men is that we're training a bunch of Ukrainians how to pilot really old F-16s in Arizona, which I wanna point out the F-16 is like, the Russians have the most data on how to shoot that down with their air defenses more than like any other plane in the modern US arsenal.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Even if we get all those Nordic countries to give them those planes, they like there was a whole fit. We kicked Turkey out of the F-35 program because they bought F-16s and let Russia test their air defense systems on them. So like nothing, nothing is going to like nothing. Nothing is going to change. It's just going to be this horrible fucking grind of attrition and no, and like not Tony Blinken, not Biden. No one will really catch any shit from the American press for not like going to the table when they could have when they, when,
Starting point is 00:33:19 when Ukraine was in a way more advantageous position and we could have avoided this. Yes. I mean, it sounds grim. It sounds grim, but you know what an advantage is to fighting with the Gen X army? You can't phase them because they all grew up seeing the Challenger explosion on TV. They also drank from the hose and they stayed out, you know, they stayed out and played all day in the streets. They rode their bicycles and skin their knees. So, uh, I don't think they're likely to be phased by a column of Russian, uh, heavy armor. It's not a good sign when someone is trying to justify the worst possible
Starting point is 00:33:59 conditions for like a combat army by being like yeah but like Steve Albini man like it's just not a good I mean to move on from one like I said just one intractable disaster to another I feel like should we go back to the the transcript real quick yes yeah yeah okay time magazine so in Israel obviously a difficult time the transcript real quick. Yes, yeah, yeah. All right, hold on. Okay. Time Magazine. So, in Israel, obviously, a difficult time there. What steps are you prepared to take against Israel now that Netanyahu appears to have crossed your red line in Raffa, Mr. President?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I'm not gonna speak to that now because you're just gonna report this before I make before. I'm in the process of talking with his rallies right now. So I'm not going to. Uh, what does that mean? If I tell you you'll write it, it's not time for you to write it. It's just, he didn't give an interview. At least he knows he's in an interview.
Starting point is 00:35:01 That's, that's good for him. Inviting a reporter. I know your game time magazine. You can't get one over old Joe. Inviting a reporter there. Oh yeah. And what answer your questions so you can write them down. Nice try.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Sure thing. He's amazing. Now, as long as we're talking about the Biden's red line in RAFA, what are the nature of your conversations with the Israelis right now? Have you spoken with Bibi? I've not spoken with Bibi since the... I've not spoken with B BB since the pack Sunday.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Was it Sunday? This is one point. Advisor Ben LeBolt says, yep, Sunday. I have not. My team has. Oh, they're like, who's your, who's your team though? You haven't, you're not speaking directly with him. That is a bad sign.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You're like, yeah, Marion accounting is doing it. The guy who makes the coffee someone in the mailroom like you're the guy who's supposed to be doing it Ben the ball of our balls were son the case but time to ask him but has he crossed your red line? I'm not gonna respond to that because I'm about to make it anyway Anyway sounds like he just shit his pants This is if my four-year-old niece responded to a question that way we'd be like we need to send her to stupid school. This is fucking crazy. I was just not disqualifying. How we in 2002 this would be the end of your fucking career. I'm about to make it.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Anyway that's insane. I'm about to make it. Anyway, that's insane. I'm about to make it. OK, well, when he says I'm about to make anyway, and this is in the context of has Israel crossed your red line in Rafa? Well, I don't know if you've been paying attention to the news over this past weekend, but suffice to say, unspeakable atrocities are still occurring. But this time there are news reports that they were occurring with the direct aid of US special forces. So it's sort of like in this in this hostage rescue slash massacre
Starting point is 00:37:35 that happened over the weekend. Not only is Biden letting Netanyahu cross his red line, he's crossing it himself. He's committing, what are our news accounts? I don't know, read for yourself, but apparently that they use the deconflicted zone in which they were reconstructing the remnants of his aid peer to land US special forces troops who then entered a refugee camp under the guise of a humanitarian aid truck. Think about that for a second. I mean, the old Trojan Horse maneuver, which is not only cowardly, but I have to say, cannot be, cannot be separated from what I think is a conscious effort to
Starting point is 00:38:15 make the delivery of any aid into Gaza impossible. Because if every aid truck could just be potentially like 10 Chris Kiles waiting with itchy trigger fingers, then like delivering aid of any kind is just literally just murderous. It's just impossible. I mean, yeah, there's a good reason that that is categorized as a war crime. Like it is, it's hard to think of the US stooping lower on that type of thing than when they ran sort of a bogus inoculation campaign to micro like, like, Oh, right. Yeah. It's exactly been lauded.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. This is somehow fucking worse. Yet just the bar can always go lower for the US security states. Well, back to the time magazine interview on this. It says time asked the president Biden, more broadly from the intelligence and the evidence you've seen either currently or in the president Biden, more broadly, from the intelligence and the evidence you've seen either currently or in the last months, have Israeli forces committed war crimes in
Starting point is 00:39:10 Gaza? The answer is it's uncertain and has been investigated by the Israelis themselves. ICC is something that we don't recognize, but one thing is certain people in Gaza, the Palestinians have suffered greatly for lack of food, water, medicine, gummy bears, all games, ping pong, gum and baseball cards, gum and baseball cards. and baseball cards, Nokia, engage Hawker, Hawker Phoenix, 1993. And a lot of it has to do with just not just to do with his rallies, but what Hamas is doing in Israel as we speak, mass is intimidating the population. I went over there right after that attack on the Israelis. What they did exceeded everything we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And I've seen a lot tying mothers and daughters together with a rope and pouring kerosene on it and burning them to death. That kind of thing attempted to intimidate and it is dastardly. Saying dastardly, it's like they're tying mothers and daughters to train tracks and twirling their mustache. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. Well, it's like Biden loves these like completely debunked things that like even the Israelis that are fit are fake. But like using that language to describe it like like he goes to Auschwitz and he's like, this is so mischievous. Hitler was such a rascal. Yeah, this is a testament to man's mischief to man. We believe, we believe there are those who are still alive. I met all the families, but we don't have final proof on who's alive and who's not alive. And by the way, I've been calling, we should have a ceasefire, period.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And to get those hostages, that's the main reason why we push. Both the Israelis desperately want to ceasefire in order to get the hostages home and it's a way to begin to break the momentum and that's why we're pushed so hard and were. Is our intelligence chief in? Where is he now? John Kirby interjects at this point and says he is back sir he was just over in Europe in Brussels over the weekend and then Time says and whose fault is that the the deal the ceasefire for hostages has not been consummated is it Hamas or Israel or
Starting point is 00:41:50 both? Hamas could end this tomorrow Hamas could say unintelligible And, and, but the last offer Israel made was very generous in terms of who they'd be willing to release and what they'd give in return, et cetera. They're going to send Brett Ratner back to America to face charges. Can I, can I ask something that might be a little naive? Why is John Kirby here in the room with him? Is that normal? I can answer this. John Kirby is Biden's comfort character and he needs him to be around when he's feeling
Starting point is 00:42:40 stressed out. Yeah, he's his emotional support cabinet member. It for me, I see it as like, um, it's like every bad grandson when they think that a grandparent only has two years left to live and they're like, Ooh, Oh my God. I'm just going to live in their house and do their laundry for two years. And they're going to be so thankful that they like write me into the will. And then with John Kirby, it's like, he's going to make me president. they write me into the will. And that with John Kirby, it's like he's going to make me president. And then it's Kirby time. And then all the time.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's like, it's like what Alex said, that the best moment in a needs life is when grandma slips and falls on the stairs. And then you can be like, I don't have to be employed for the next 10 years. I'm on full time grandma duty. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. The neat thing where you're like, oh, yeah, I'd love to get a job,
Starting point is 00:43:34 but I'm just taking care of grandma and they're just eating all their food, speaking up their house with fucking pre rolls, not doing anything, probably celebrating their fucking death. That's what John Kirby's doing. John Kirby is taking all of Biden's dogs and blowing Delta 8 to their ears and get them high. The nurse who dressed my leg wound yesterday said that I'm actually really good at being the State Department spokesman. And I don't seem nervous at all. Link, Lincoln Kirby.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah. I, I just like, again, the part at the end of the one, two questions ago where he's like, and that's why we're pushing hard for the, Hey, where's our intelligence. She's right. Where is he? Yeah. Are you my son? Like, it's just very, it's, it's, it to be there, right? They're like, where is he? Yeah. Are you my son?
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like, it's just very... No. It's a handler, right? Like, Biden can't use the stove or anything, like, at this point. Yeah. This was like, I mean, remember, I think this was like, sort of, immediately after October 7th, but this was on one of Biden's trips to Israel. And he gave comments in Air Force One to the
Starting point is 00:44:46 press and there was that image of him speaking to the press looking desiccated. And like John Kirby, no, no, no, I'm sorry, Anthony Blinken was just over his shoulder like in the airplane bathroom just with a look of frozen horror on his face. And he was like right over his shoulder and he knew that once Biden started talking, he would look bad for him to just interject and be like, you can't say that or stop talking, Mr. President. But yeah, I think I think all of the sort of the grandpa minders around him live in a state of perpetual fear and anxiety. Like, for instance, that the president look, I understand it's an executive job. There's a lot of people who work under
Starting point is 00:45:23 you. And like, otherwise, I wouldn't think it's so damning. But it certainly does sound bad in the context of like, is America a world power that the president would be like, where is our chief of intelligence? Is it where is he? I lost him. What's he doing? I wouldn't do anything to like hear Blinken's internal monologue on that tarmac when he was just looking at Biden in pure horror. Oh, who's he?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Who's he made? Don't like this. Looks like another long day of picking cotton. Oh, we we break. We're going to be breaking rocks in the yard all day. You think he's in the movie Life with Eddie Murphy. Returning to the The Time transcript, Time Magazine, you mentioned the hunger in Gaza. Some have alleged that Israel is intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method
Starting point is 00:46:27 of warfare. Do you think that's the case? No, I don't think that. I think they're engaged in activities that is inappropriate. Once again! Once again! Once again! Young man, inappropriate!
Starting point is 00:46:39 Well, they're not starving millions of civilians. They're engaged in behavior that is simply inappropriate. They're being naughty. Both sides, there's rallies and the Rastafarians have to pull their pants up. No one wants to see that. You know they do that to show you to show others that they're gay in prison. That's why it was invented. No, I think it's that is when I went over immediately after the Hamas brutal attack, I said then, and it became public.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I said, don't make the same mistake we did after bin Laden. Don't try the idea of occupying. Good advice. after bin Laden don't try the idea of occupying Afghanistan. Good advice. Israel is I'm sure Israel was like, all right, let's we're going to invade Afghanistan right after October 7th. Wait, that's a bad idea. Okay. We're calling it off the deal that you had nuclear arsenals in Iran
Starting point is 00:47:46 that were being, I mean, in Iraq, that were being generated, simply not true. And it led to endless wars. They were not true. Don't make the mistakes we made. And they're making that mistake. I think, excuse my voice, I apologize. Okay. Why?
Starting point is 00:48:05 I apologize. I can try to parse this. I dearly apologize. What the fuck? So he's saying, in the context of an interview where just not even one paragraph earlier, he said he had seen videos of a mother and daughter being tied up and lit on fire.
Starting point is 00:48:24 He's saying, don't make the mistake we did of believing a bunch of dumb shit and then occupying a country in an endless war that was a mistake. Sorry about my voice. Yeah. I apologize. I apologize. This is so fucking, like everything is degenerated so fucking bad. This would end your career if you were like, I don't know, a late night host in 1999.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Like you could you like do. This is so far. This would end your career if you were a boxer. The Nevada gaming commission sanctioned about if your pregame. If your pre fight interview, you were talking like this. They wouldn't even hold this on a barge in international waters if you were giving answers like this to a fight doctor. Even Dana White would be like, all right, you can't fight. This is fucking insane.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I know we glossed over it a little bit earlier, but in the question about is Israel committing war crimes, Joe Biden did say, we don't recognize the ICC. Which is, that's pretty, I know he's saying we don't, I think he's trying to say we don't recognize their judgment in this case, but of course we still recognize them, you know, if it's a Serbian or an African world, in this case. But for him to just say, we don't recognize the ICC, an institution that like we literally created and maintained.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Like I mean, yeah, like I, God, this will be three elections in a row where both candidates are the only people that could lose to one another. Like both candidates are the worst fucking candidates in history for evolving reasons. And like I didn't think things could get worse than last time, but I didn't think things could get worse than 2016. This could be the worst election in American history. Like how does anyone vote in this election? How do you not just kill yourself in the booth? They should have another lever to pull for suicide booth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:29 If more people commit suicide, then vote, then we agree to dissolve the country. Like please, something like that. I will kill myself in the booth if it means that that's an option Throw my headphones up. I'm going dumb in the booth for this one Okay, so it says here This after he says don't make the mistakes we made so time magazine says do you have an agreement from all the other parties to? This multi-package deal both the power multi-part package of deals that would deliver that in Israel, in the region other than Bibi. Is Bibi the only thing standing in the way of that? I got to be careful because you're going to print this before the article comes out.
Starting point is 00:51:12 And I'm in the process of negotiating a lot of that. You're going to print this before the article comes out? What does that? Hey, everyone, I know that I made a whole interview with Biden, but we've decided to print it before the article comes out. Well, you need teasers. I'm leaking. You need a preview. You need teasers.
Starting point is 00:51:36 But the question asked, what the question essentially asked is like, do you have a negotiating partner in the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu? And his answer to that is I'm in the process of negotiating that. I mean, is he doing it too? Yeah. He's doing a coup, but I have to be careful not to tell you that I'm doing it because you're going to print it before the article comes out. You're going to print it before the article comes out.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I know you're fucking game. All right. I'm going to the end of my highlighted bits that I chose from this, but it says here, the last two years of presidents, two term presidents tenure are usually focused on foreign affairs. You are 81 years old and would be 86 by the time you left office large majorities of Americans including the in the Democratic Party tell pollsters they think you were too old to leave could you really do this job as an 85 year old man I can do it better than anybody you know you're looking at me I can take you to a Time Magazine journalist who's asking him if 85 is too old to be running the country. He says, I could do it better than anyone you know, and I can take you to right now
Starting point is 00:52:56 if you guys want to arm wrestle. It's so Dan Quinn. I'm busy. Wow. And win. Like, it's, I'm busy. I really think that this journalist failed on a basic matter of journalism by not taking the president up on that offer. Like the fact that the president challenges you to a fight in response to a question about his age,
Starting point is 00:53:18 I feel like you have to be like, oh, all right, well, I guess we need to settle this once and for all. Are you old enough to fight a time journalist? Imagine that happened. Imagine you're like you're like a like a sort of like millennial cusper journalist doing this article and you're like, OK, fine, we'll fight. And you just deck him and he falls in a really bad way. And you're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And you somehow escape the White House. You somehow escape the White House. You escape the Marines. You escape the Secret Service. You somehow escape the White House. You escape the Marines. You escape the Secret Service. Your Uber's already waiting for you. You're in the taxi with Maria Villalobos from Pulp Fiction asking you, what does it feel like to kill a man? You're in the taxi.
Starting point is 00:53:55 You get back to the hotel, and then you have like two missed calls from your editor. And you're like, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. And you call them back, and you're like, oh, no, oh, fuck. And you call them back and you're like, oh, no, it went great. Nothing happened. By the way, could you not print the article until it comes out? Don't print this article before it comes out.
Starting point is 00:54:14 That's the most important thing. We can't do that. I think it's possible that Biden would have like an advantage because he'd want to fight in that like 1950s New York gangs way where they like they like tie one arm by their wrist together and then they have blades in the other arm. Yeah, he would fight he would he would fight and go down like Liam Neeson gangs of New York. I'll take anybody jack but no no zip guns. Got to make that clear.
Starting point is 00:54:46 But like, does the Secret Service have a protocol in place where the president can order them to stand down, like at the end of Lethal Weapon where Gary Busey and Mel Gibson fight on Muir Taz front yard? And then like, they surrounded by LAPD officers with guns. And Danny Glover is like, no, this is between them. Let them finish it. That would be like, that would be really cool. But like the secret service is too lame
Starting point is 00:55:14 to have like a protocol like that. That's something that would happen in the seminal, Jet Li classic hero, but not in America. I think like eight Botoxes ago, Putin may have tried that move, but now ever since he got his eighth baselift and became a COVID- COVID sufferer. COVID hawk. Yeah. Ever since he busted out that long table and he got long COVID, he's not doing that anymore. But I think if you're the president, they have to let you do that. Even if Joe Biden would die instantly, even to the punch of a journalist.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I don't know. I feel like it's probably one of the rules where they have to break it up that was put into place during Joe Biden's administration. Just because they knew he was going to try to start fights. They're like, at some point, you know, Papi's going to get scrappy. We got to have like a contingency plan for when he does the finger gun thing from Gran Torino. Listen, pussy. Shut up. plan for when he does the, uh, the, the finger gun thing from Grantor Reno. Listen, pussy shut up.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I'm representing when you know, but the boat people, Jack, they're humong, I thought they were bad neighbors. What are you, what are you Jacks doing? All right, getting to the end here. He says, Time Magazine says, do you consider not running again because of your age? No, I didn't. Sorry. And what do you say to Americans who are worried about it?
Starting point is 00:56:59 Watch me. Look, name me a president that's gotten as much done as I've gotten done in my first three and a half years. When all you wrote in time magazine, I couldn't get any of it done. When you told me there's no pay, no way, no way he can get a trillion plus dollar bill done in terms of to deal with infrastructure where there's no way he gets $268 billion for dealing with the environment where there's no way I could get the legislation passed on.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I remember when I was headed to Taiwan, excuse me, to South Korea, to reclaim the chips industry that we had gotten 86, 865 billion in private sector investment, private sector investments since I've been in. Name me a president who's done that. Great point. He's bringing back the American chips industry. I, you know, sold through a South Korean conglomerate and they're bringing back the crab chips, the American.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I love it. Like, like the journalist, the journalist was nice enough to just completely glide past the fact that Biden challenged him to a fist fight and was like, okay, uh, let's talk about some of your accomplishments. But he's throwing, but he's trying to throw Biden like a life wrap and Biden basically just takes out a 38 and shoots it. He's like, no, I'll drown. Let me tell you about when I went to the South Siam and I rescued all the kids. Back when I was an Indochine. Back when I was an Indochine. Amber shared this in the chat. Felix, do you see this?
Starting point is 00:58:52 It's a question about... Okay. All right. So it begins, but Mr. President, won't your newly announced tariffs raise the price on American consumers? No, because here's the deal. There's a difference. I made it clear to Putin from the very beginning that we're not engaging in, for example, Trump wants a 110% tariff on everything.
Starting point is 00:59:15 That will raise the price of everything in America. Editor's note, Biden appeared to be in Xi here, not Putin. What I'm talking about. Being very generous. Yeah, this is one of the most generous interviews I've ever seen. This is a really nice guy. Yeah, like, holy sh-
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't, I never want to see any of the Biden people say the media is out for them ever again after this. Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. They are trying to be in the tank for you, but you're literally too incompetent for that to be the case. They physically cannot be in the tank for you. It's too fucked up. And there is no the president of the United States appeared to confuse Russia and China. But after after the editors noted continues up,
Starting point is 01:00:03 what I'm talking about, I said we're gonna play by the same rules Tell me if I want to if an American corporation wants to invest in China When he has to give 50% ownership 51% ownership to a Chinese operator and that goes from there And I said so you're gonna do that to us And I said, so you're going to do that to us? We're going to do the same thing if you want to invest here. We're not going to put a tariff, not putting a tariff on. We're just saying if you want to do that, well, we're going to do that. And you cannot change the market in a way where you flood the market by
Starting point is 01:00:42 ignore all Chinese government subsidies to undercut their ability as to deal with electric vehicles. And we're not going to put up with it. That's the thing we talked about. And that's what we're here talking about. We're not talking about tariffs across the board. Slam dunk, posterized, and backboard shattered. There's a part where they say unintelligible in there. I feel bad, I feel like this is like, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:11 when we get the director's cut, that unintelligible will be a scene that we really wish was in the original. I interpreted it as him just like, literally saying something on it, just making sounds, but like director's cut, like seeing how in the tank the reporter is, it could have been something insane. You're right.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Like he might have taken it out just to save his ass. He's like, I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we know that the Chinese, the Chinese, they can turn into a tiger, whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The thing about the celestial races, is that they love gambling they love the number eight they can't get enough of it. Double happiness Jack they can't stop gambling on electric cars we're not going to stand for it. And I told I told Fu Manchu you don't see me going over there putting on your hat, spitting and gambling, smoking a cigarette, made out of wet paper. You try to put me in the hat. Don't come around and turn that into a baseball cap. You come over here and try to wear our hats. Well, I'll tell you what. Some of you jacks may have gone over the moon and turned to a jackrabbit, but when it comes turn for our.
Starting point is 01:02:30 That's when you know that I know where's my wife. She's in Belgium, sir. That's right. Well, that's what I thought. Yeah, I think you have a good impression of the state of the Biden White House. But, you know, I just like I said, I've got my little man was talking to me and he's saying Biden wins re-election by losing the popular vote and winning the electoral college. I know and German has already put his chips down on that on that scenario being the most likely.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So I'm riding with Josh I just got a feeling I think I think so. I mean you bring in These Trump is really bring it like the batteries shark thing sinking boat like shark batteries That's the that's the hit of summer I say what would happen if the boat sank from its That's the hit of the summer. I say what would happen if the boat sank from its weight and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there. By the way, a lot of shark attacks
Starting point is 01:03:41 lately. Do you notice that? A lot of shark. So there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat. 10 yards or here. Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking? Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted? Or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn't know the answer. He said, you know, nobody's ever asked me that me that question I said I think it's a good question I
Starting point is 01:04:07 think there's a lot of electric current coming through that water but you know what I do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted I'll take electrocution every single time I'm not getting near the shark I love that he's still going in on sharks it's like his he's never been. He's never been in the ocean. This man has never been here. That's cool. Well, now we know why he doesn't want to risk it. I love what I the first thing I ever saw him say about sharks.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It was like before even the Obama birth certificate stuff was before he got into that. It was in like 2009. He was like back when he was like pretending he like supported universal health care. He was like, back when he was like pretending he like supported universal healthcare, he was like, sorry folks, I'm just not a fan of sharks. Don't worry about them.
Starting point is 01:04:52 They'll be around long after we're gone. Which I thought, what a great line. Yeah, I really like it, yeah. They were here before, they'll be there after. I wonder if there's like any evangelicals who like won't vote for him because he said that because his shark cosmology runs Sharks have been here exactly as long as humanity has And when Christ Christ comes back they're gone just like we are Sharks will not ascend in the fucking rapture.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm into like Unitarian cosmology, where like, you know, there's like a pet heaven and there's like a, you know, like heaven is like a Montessori school, basically. Everyone can get in. Well, in his recent comments about would he choose to be electrocuted by the battery in a sinking yacht or be potentially killed by a shark and he said I'm going with electrocution
Starting point is 01:05:51 every time in one of his many digressions. And by the way, I don't think I'd like to, what makes those comments even funnier is that he was doing that, he was making those comments at a rally where it was probably 110 degrees outside. So I think like there was at least like three fatalities in the audience from heat stroke. He was just, he was like in these endless digressions where he starts talking about sharks and he goes, and he's referring to they like the shark scientists who want you to believe sharks are friendly. He goes, oh, like just the other week, you know, take a bite out of some young girl. But they say, they say, oh, the sharks, they don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:06:27 They thought it was just food, but it wasn't for them. And then they go where they know what they're doing. Like he's like, you know, people are at home by big shark. There are no angels. There are no angels, folks. You know, they sung in the church youth group, but they were out there biting people. They were surfing one over again. They killed them.
Starting point is 01:06:46 To go back to general election prognostications, it is gun to my head. I have to say that Biden winning the popular vote either very narrowly or not at all while edging out in the battleground states. That's like, like if I had to pick right now, but it should like the thing that makes this so hard, like I said, is that they are like, you could not design two worse candidates. This is like, this is the worst possible case for the Trump candidacy too, even with Biden being as incredibly fucking unpopular as he is. Because like, again, you know, people, there are so many idiotic narratives
Starting point is 01:07:38 about 2016, uh, that people love. But the thing that no one wants to admit is that Trump won because independent voters saw him as more moderate than Hillary. That was the only reason he was able to edge out a victory. And that like, who is going to think that anymore? You know, at least on the independent side and not only that he's a known quantity and there've been four years of him talking exclusively about a loss, which is just like that's poison. And that, you know, not even bringing up
Starting point is 01:08:16 like the conviction, which I like obviously for his base doesn't mean anything. But I think it moves a very non significant block of independence. And with Biden, I don't like Woodrow Wilson was more coherent than this at the end. Ronald Reagan was. I just like, I cannot. How does this happen? How the fuck does this happen? How? It's what happens when too many Rubicons are crossed, okay?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Yeah. These rivers are everywhere. We're crossing them willy nilly and now we're in the real terminal stages of empire. Okay? Yeah. So if you see a Rubicon, just leave it alone. They did a much better job of hiding Reagan. Like they like Biden has more yard time. They did a much better job of hiding Reagan.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Biden has more yard time. I don't know why they don't do... I know they have to trot him out every once in a while and they do kind of... They keep him a little close to the vest, but I don't know. He's a little too free range. But I don't know. I think you're probably right, Will. It's like second term Reagan, the Republicans, they had a really strong defense. So all he had to do was just get in there, hand the ball off, maybe make a couple passes.
Starting point is 01:09:37 But Biden, man, they're asking him to go out there and win the game. And it's looking rough right now. It's looking rough. But keep in mind looking rough, but keep in mind who they're playing against. I don't see how anyone can be supremely confident in any type of Republican victory after the off-year elections, the midterms, everything that we've seen. They have underperformed to an insane degree, like a historic degree, against a party led by one of the most unpopular presidents we've ever seen in the modern era. But yeah, no, it's just this is, I don't know, like I don't even want to say it can't get
Starting point is 01:10:24 worse than this because it always does. Yeah, I just I want to see what that will what that what fruit that will bear in the future. How can we go lower than this? Will it be, you know, fucking Ron DeSantis versus Gavin Newsome after they both experienced a plane crash that robbed them both of the ability to speak. Who knows? Greetings, lie ahead. There's no rule that says a dog can't be president. Yeah, they're going to hear about it.
Starting point is 01:10:57 The future is so bright, we got to wear shades, but listeners, please, and I cannot stress this enough, do not listen to this episode until it is out, please. Yes, no, yes. Yes. This is super fucking important. If you guys, if you guys print this before the episode comes out, well, like, kiss democracy goodbye.
Starting point is 01:11:20 We can take you. We can take you. Don't believe us, just watch. We will go, we will go all the way We can take you. We can take you. Don't believe us, just watch. We will go all the way to Nippon and we're going to put all the money on the chips. Alright, let's wrap it up there for today, folks. That was your Choppo Trap House from Monday, July, June 10th, 2024. Alright, until the next time, talk to you again soon.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Bye bye. Bye. When the world it seems That the fall seems so

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