Chapo Trap House - 852 - Do the Dew feat. Hasan Piker (7/23/24)

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

We’re joined by streamer Hasan Piker for an honestly unprecedented news round-up. Joe Biden is OUT of the Presidential race (and possibly dead??), and Kamala Harris is now the presumptive nominee. M...ere days after avoiding getting his head blown off by millimeters, it appears Donald Trump has LOST the mandate of heaven. And Trump’s VP pick, as recently as last week a symbolic football-spike in a race presumed already won, is rapidly deflating when put in front of real people. All that plus Lord of the Rings and Aarons Sorkin reading series inside! Watch Hasan daily on Twitch at: https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi Merch restocked at https://chapotraphouse.store/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All I wanna do is hit the drum. All I wanna do is hit the drum. Look, this is like a tough day to do a podcast. It's, you know, we're all just processing the tragedy. All proceeds from this podcast are going to go towards the thousands who have been killed and the millions more who have lost their homes in the flooding that occurred today when every woman in America saw JD Vance's diet Mountain Dew joke and got incredibly wet. I know that my apartment building is pretty much ruined right now. There's flooding everywhere.
Starting point is 00:01:06 So what happened to Drake? Yeah, no, it's, you know, in Drake's words, we wish this was an espresso martini, you know, but it's not. It's pure squirt. It's pure squirt everywhere. The only place that's not affected are those trailer parks where only sex offenders can live, because it's mostly men. But beyond that, just anywhere with women is just, welcome to Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Thanks, thanks JD. Thanks for getting all the women really wet with your incredible joke. I love the idea of a vice president not only having a beard, which a lot of people are talking about, but also definitely wearing eyeshadow. Like he has eyeliner on, right? He's got Gary Sinney's Mission Tomorrow style eyeliner. Eyeliner and contour.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And it's like, like it's crazy because he just started doing it like last year, like no one would notice. A, it looks like he's doing it himself because it's incredibly noticeable. Like he looks like Night Man. And B, like, you know, gaslighting is one of those words that doesn't mean anything anymore, but that is gaslighting to be like, no, I've always had that.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I always have looked like this. I've always had a nice dark outline around my eyes and worn rouge. Well, obviously we are living in unprecedented times for people who talk about politics for a living. It is Monday, July 22nd, and we're coming to you for the first time now after this weekend's unprecedented events. I asked you on our last episode, I asked for my Biden prayer warriors to do a prayer circle to keep their prayers strong for our president. You have failed. You have failed and Joe Biden is dead. You have killed, you have killed the president and ushered in this horrible new world where democracy is a fiction. We're no longer living in a democratic country.
Starting point is 00:03:07 We have too much to talk about. So we have to talk about it with a guy who I want to imagine you have been talking about this for the past, I don't know, 48 hours straight now. It's like, yeah, I saw I was feeling for you yesterday. We're here with Hassan Piker. We're doing the do and Hassan Piker, Dye Mountain Dew Studio. Yeah. And believe me, we have plenty to talk about that of soda related matters.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But I was feeling for you, Hassan, because yesterday when the news broke that Joe Biden, our president, is dead, that they announced his death and that Kamala will be, you know, replacing him on the ticket. I saw this is one of the days that you weren't streaming. Yeah, you were recording and then like you and Wolf Blitzer. That day began with like you, you filming, you filming something. And Wolf Blitzer was enjoying a wolf spritzer at a DC area eatery.
Starting point is 00:03:58 It was like a wolf blitzer style negroni. And they were like, get back in the studio. Joe Biden is dead. They need you in the stew. Joe Biden is dead. They need you in the stew, Wolf. He looked so sad. It was like, I, you know, usually it's hard to make me feel bad, Wolf Blitzer, and it's happened two times.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Once when he, remember when he fucked up during Katrina? And he went, they're so poor and they're so black. And that was like, I really, I don't know. I just, I felt bad for him because he'd probably been on the air for like hours and hours and he didn't mean to say that. But then this was his day off. He was, I don't know, he was gonna go to an escape room
Starting point is 00:04:41 or something. And then they- By himself. Yeah, by himself. His hobby is going to escape rooms alone. And then they took that from him because they, um, did to Biden, what you do to mid route to start his boss fight. It took the sword out of his head.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It was really messed up what they did. I, uh, I was in the midst of shooting a trailer for like a Twitch related show and I told them ahead of time, I was like, Biden is going to drop out on Sunday. And they were like, well, we already pushed it last week because Donald Trump was shot and you were like, well, I have to cover this. So so they had pushed it to the next Sunday and I'm like, well, Biden's going to drop out. So they set up a green screen for me in the in the studio that I was at.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I was like, no, dude, I'm leaving. And I had full emo makeup on and I sent a photo of myself, the brace. I was like, this is what I look like when I received the information. He went JD Vance question mark. Like I liked it. That's just synonymous with JD Vance. When you were wearing guy liner, he's just him and him and Matt Gates are doing incredible things for men who want gender affirming care, who want to live their Vance when you were wearing Guy Liner. He's just him and him and Matt Gaetz are doing incredible
Starting point is 00:05:45 things for men who want gender affirming care, who want to live their best lives. Well, gentlemen, like I said, we're living in we're living in a brave new world of politics now, but like, this is obviously the moment that we are praying will never come. I know we are all standing strong for Biden. But how are we processing the news that he is dropping out? He's not representing the presidency, but he is dropping out of the race. And now it is, we are living in the era. We are now unbowed, unbent, unburdened. By what has been.
Starting point is 00:06:17 By what has been. We are unburdened now. We are unburdened by Joe Biden and we're living in Kamala's time. It is Kamala's time. Joe Biden is dead. He is over. Your prayers were not enough. But like, I don't know, I guess just like, I've been trying to process like the last like, couple weeks of Trump nearly getting his head blown off, like, like having his ear like kissed by a bullet, which would like put him in the context of probably the most God kissedkissed man alive. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 To go from that into the RNC feeling himself, he has the mandate of heaven. I'm seeing this now on my computer screen. Trump has lost the mandate of heaven in about 72 hours. Well, it started at the RNC. He blew it. He blew it. He could have, you know, I, I was wondering if he was going to attempt
Starting point is 00:07:07 like not a pivot, but try to, you know, that weird thing he does where he tries to sound optimistic. Yeah, that's always, that's always really freaks me out. I don't know. I don't even know how to describe his RNC speech. It was just like, it wasn't like, I think we're, we're past the point of like calling a speech RNC speech. It was just like, it wasn't like, I think we're past the point of calling his speech a scary, but it was just like, it wasn't a material. It was pretty boring. It didn't really go anywhere. I saw a lot of, you know, I love looking at like,
Starting point is 00:07:38 just the jug hooters of X, the everything site. And everyone saw that thread recently of guys who were like, anyone else lost their wife over this election? But I saw, from there I went to a bunch of conservatives pages and I saw guys who were like, my politically ambivalent wife bailed on Trump because of that speech. Like a lot of that, a lot of wives were hating it.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And then, you know know their big gambit failed they wanted this to be Trump summer so they do the debate early and it shocked Democrats into room temperature IQ into baseline competence that is really what I've been struggling with over the past 48 hours is like I am I'm never one to attribute anything like any kind of collective will or intelligence to the Democratic Party but the way that this has shaken out leads me to believe that this was all a Machiavellian Sun Tzu art of war faint to get Biden out of the race and crucially to get the entire RNC
Starting point is 00:08:40 to just be like Biden is it we know we printed all the merch we got all the t shirts, this is going to be a layup. And now, it is fascinating because like, here's the thing, it has been nauseating to watch people, you know, like, sort of ride this tide of relief. After like this thing happened, like it finally happened, Joe Biden is finally out of the race. But to ride that tide of relief into this like, memeification of Kamala Harris Harris and it's like it's Kamala girl summer and like this absolute zero, this fucking this nothing midwit who has been a terrible politician her entire life had to drop out of the presidential race because she wouldn't even win her own state as like
Starting point is 00:09:20 the savior of democracy. But at the same time, it's just like I just really wonder like was this all planned? Because it just it seems that way. She picked up the campaign. She's like using the same people, which leads me to believe that it was actually a coup. Like it was a coup. It was like it was Nancy Pelosi was like fighting
Starting point is 00:09:36 you really because the thing is like now what we're learning now is that like every Democrat and who holds office in this country has been in a room with him over the last four years has known exactly what's going on with him. After like, they've done everything. It started with, the first time this happened was when Sarah Huckabee Sanders, when Trump was still president, she made fun of him.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And that's when they first trotted out the stutter line. And it worked because they were talking to a woman that no one should ever see. Just no one liked seeing her, no one liked her. They're gonna get rid of Arkansas so we don't have to see her anymore. No one liked, so you could have said anything to her. You could have been like, Joe Biden was shot by an assassin
Starting point is 00:10:23 and that's why he sounds stupid. And everyone would have cheered. But after that they tried ableism, ageism, all the way into saying that John Lovett raped Joe Biden by saying he should leave. But all along being like this is bullying the media into not covering it, getting exactly what they wanted until the media could no longer do that.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They needed to maintain some degree of legitimacy and not just go, not cover that debate and go, nothing weird here. And they were the victims of their own success in that. Right. But I don't, there's just no reconciliation or reckoning with the fact that yet they lied to everyone. They like, they didn't just lie to everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:16 They said if the news talked about, if the news said that there was even a difference between how Joe Biden sounded in 2018 and 2022. Russian propaganda, you want Trump to win, you hate democracy. And like now they, I mean, I mean, going from that to Pelosi going on Meet the Press and being like, maybe he has fucking Parkinson's. It's insane. I want to like, I want to read a read a couple reactions from Twitter to the changing out tending out the top of the ticket.
Starting point is 00:11:47 The first is from Lawrence tribe at tribe law. Changing horses in midstream is rarely wise, but it's another matter entirely when the stream is the Rubicon and it's the warrior on the horse who's selflessly handing the reins to his seasoned partner and will help her navigate the journey. So JoBai is going to help Kamala in this metaphor here navigate her journey across a river. Who's Caesar? Are they both Caesar? Kamala turns into Caesar when she's midway across the Rubicon and then she gets on Biden's horse. What are you talking about? I think Kamala is Titus Pullo in this in this in this arrangement.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And the next one I want to repeat is from historian Timothy Schneider. Smiling as I watch black men on my feed, promising to stand at Taylor Swift as she endorses Kamala Harris. Culture is loosening up in a good way. Let's make a much better future. And like I say, it's like we just did the inundation of people just like so happy for Kamala and I'm seeing I'm seeing this and these people talk about like man I wouldn't want to be Trump or the Republicans when
Starting point is 00:12:52 Taylor Swift and Beyonce hold an election concert for Kamala and put him on when I when I start hearing this shit I just see a map turning all red just 49 red states but then at the same time, I've been witnessing how the right-wing media and right-wing politicians are reacting to this, and I see the same map just turning all blue again. Because it is like, they do not, like they are, they are so clearly flailing right now with how to react to this. And what they're coming up with shows that like they're not speaking from position of strength right now. Because I was talking to Androsky about this last night and he said, like,
Starting point is 00:13:27 the easy line for them is like, we beat Joe Biden without even an election happening. We beat Joe Biden. We ended his political career by standing on stage next to him for two hours. That was all it took. So Kamala should be a fucking layup, but they're acting like, okay, what are the, what are the lines are coming out of there? She's, she's a childless cat lady. She's a childless cat lady. She's a childless cat lady and she's the throat goat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. And then like after, I just, I think it's amazing. After 2022, there was no like, again, no reckoning. None of the parties have any reckoning for their incredible incompetence. But after 2022, you know, not just in Japan, but in most countries, they would have made the head of the party kill themselves. And, you know, after the Dobbs election to be like, all right, we've got it. You're not really black for that. Something we, the Republicans care about for some reason.
Starting point is 00:14:23 If you're a foundational black American, someone's been watching Buck Breaking. But that, and you blew everyone in America, I guess, which all women do, please vote for us. Like, what? I like that one of the immediate reactions was calls for democracy from both Stephen Miller and also, what's the fucking Michael Penis, Mike Johnson. I fucking I despise him.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I mean, he's so he's such a freak. But their immediate reaction was like crying. Donald Trump literally demanding a refund on all the campaigns. Yeah. What are you doing? You guys demanded Joe Biden drop out and how much he sucked shit for like four fucking years and it was valid. Fox News was the only fucking media outlet out of the major networks that was covering how demented Joe Biden was all the goddamn time. And you didn't set up a strategy for what comes after yeah like what what are you doing? What you didn't think he could at least like die maybe yeah It's so crit like I would describe their reaction as just unbridled panic
Starting point is 00:15:35 It's insane like it just it's either like yeah this flailing like they sound like Jamie Harrison Where they're like yeah, they vote we had a fucking they sound like Jamie Harrison, where they're like, yeah, they vote. We had a fucking primary. They voted for him. But yeah, no, it's how can you call these things now? But after living through twenty twenty two, I know what it looks like when they're when they bung things up. It looks like this.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It's it's this this pure and bridal panic and then not knowing how much they're annoying everyone with their social stuff. Yeah, that is the thing. Because like, I feel like where we're at now with Joe Biden bowing out is that like things have sort of like we now we have like a normal political presidential campaign. And like they were counting on the fact that like if your opponent is a guy who can't speak like you don't have to run a normal presidential campaign. You can pick JD Vance. Yeah you can pick, exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:30 You can pick the shittiest fucking. When you think you're running up the score and you think you're going to waltz into November, you pick a guy like JD Vance who's like that's the that's the base pick. That yeah that's like. And then one thing happened, the thing that you all that you said was going to happen and you were demanding happened happens. Then there's like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. They do. Dave Rubin said in like twenty twenty one, I will quit.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I will quit the Dave Rubin show forever. I'll delete all my accounts. I'll get off all those weird conservative sites like locals. I'll stop doing live streams with Zuby, the conservative rapper. If Joe Biden serves his entire term and runs for reelection, he's not going to do it. He's going to die. And then he doesn't do it. He's like, Well, it doesn't matter that he didn't. Yeah, you guys said this was going to happen. All of you.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I saw like, like your point about like, the line that they have settled on now is that this is a coup. Yeah. This is a coup for like a president to not run for reelection and then hands it off to his vice president. And look, you can talk about like, would it be more democratic if the Democrats had some kind of open convention?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Probably. I mean, I don't care. But what I do know is I don't think that there is anything close to like any there is anything close to a sentiment among the average Democratic voter that they care about like having a nominating process. I think that they just they want it to be over and they want a different person on TV. Yeah, that's all they care about. But it but it worked. It was that's see that goes back to what you were saying about how the media was like lying for four years because up until the very last moment there were still
Starting point is 00:18:05 Hangar-ons like Joe Scarborough who by the way my favorite program I watch yeah, I'm not even joking I watch it every morning And I was like he was just like white knuckling through this process like when he had the conversation with Joe I look on him and make his face. Yeah, they were talking to him They look like they'd seen that they were talking to a ghost. Yeah, that was so awesome. That was like, um, when Luke Wilson gets to the time machine and idiocracy, just the same deflatedness. Yeah, but it's 83% according to new polls that came out, 83% of democratic party voters approve of the decision of swapping out Joe Biden. They fundraised like record breaking numbers on Act Blue.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I think it was like 80 million dollars in the span of 24 hours. Trump couldn't get that after he got fucking shot. Right. Like that's insane. And and meanwhile, like the entire narrative is like, oh, there's a coup happening. And it's like, no, it seems like the Democratic Party was like pretty invested in like the Democratic Party voters were like, oh, there's a coup happening. And it's like, no, it seems like the Democratic Party was like pretty invested in like the Democratic Party voters were like, just please don't put a fucking old man. Just give us just give us someone who they think can be Trump.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like whether and whether Kamala can be Trump, as far as I'm concerned, an open question. I'm not I'm not putting my chips down anyway whatsoever on this. And, you know, to our to our PM listeners who need everything spelled out for them by wise and noble Caesar, I ain't voting for her either. So let's just get that clear. She showed no indication that she'll be anything different than Joe Biden or any other Democrat. We can move comma the left, Will.
Starting point is 00:19:35 That's so fucked up that you said that. Sheem is, we've had it on our show a few times, he said it very succinctly. This really separated the wheat from the chaff on Gaza. How many people cared about this because it was the thing to care about it versus how many people actually care about it? And like, yeah, like as we were talking about it, like similar to the Super Bowl and the Oscars, Israel is very aware when Americans are distracted and they are right now ramping up the slaughter to unparalleled degrees. I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:06 like they're attacking this, all of the safe zones. I mean, Felix, I know you saw that, that clip today, an Israeli soldier just demolishing ultrasound equipment in the last cancer hospital left in Gaza. Last year, when there were more eyes on this, they at least like, they said it was a terrorist computer, right? They would say the terrorist ultrasound is a terrorist computer. Right. They would say the terrorist ultrasound. This is a terrorist MRI. This is this this Pabst Shemir thing.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It's actually used to like put miniature terrorists in the pussies of women and make them walk into Israel as guest workers. I don't know. Just whatever crazy stuff. They would have that really ugly guy who was in the Israeli Navy SEALs. Like he would show you like a fuse box and be like, this is a terror fuse box. This is like they wired the Koran into this. But.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Put some respect on Rear Admiral Daniel Higare's name, please. I can hear you with his fucking elephant ears all the way from Tel Aviv. Daniel Higare, they wouldn't, this time, they're just showing a video of one of their dumb soldiers throwing a tantrum in there. And they're not even like, this is a Hamas computer, this is a Hamas stethoscope.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I am always amazed by when we see these clips of IDF soldiers shortly before they walk directly into a giant mousetrap. Just like the lack of discipline and professionalism, they have like the professionalism of those Baltic units that got signed over to the SS farm team that even the Nazis had to go like calm down killing all these Jews.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's the same level of just how much they have it together. And also like, they keep wandering into windows. The only clips we see of them are them like, committing war crimes, like fucking up someone's house, putting on bras for some reason, throwing cantrims, and then wandering around windows and getting like triple collided. Well, Netanyahu will be addressing Congress on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I've heard that Kamala won't be attending, but you know, what a brave stance from Kamala here. She's still going to have a secret meeting with him though. Yeah, of course. She doesn't want to be photographed with him, but as other people have pointed out, every one of these Democratic leaders who are like, no, I won't be attending Netanyahu's address, I won't have my photo taken shaking hands with him, will be attending a closed-door meeting with him.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And they would have absolutely no problem shaking hands and being photographed with Benny Gantz or Yoav Galant or whatever any of those other butchers. We know that because all of them voted for $3.8 billion and more in unconditional aid like two months ago, that that Brian Shatz asshole, who I cannot stand that the guy from Hawaii who loves pretending is a normal guy online, he is sort of like leading the charge on the, you know, the senators who won't attend the Netanyahu address. Okay, then why did you just refill
Starting point is 00:23:07 all their weapons stores for free? Why? No, you don't understand, it's because Netanyahu's the only bad guy. But even then, he's not a bad guy if the ICC prosecutes him, in which case the ICC is the bad guy. Which is, I mean, it is a ginormous fuck up.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You got a ICJ decision that just came down. That's like pretty I would say It's pretty historic. I know that like these are toothless institutions It's like an advisory decision, you know, but I mean so these are the bodies that adjudicate international law Yeah, all saying something very clearly. Yeah, it's like it's another pressure. It's another It's another vector of pressure for Israel. It will It's another vector of pressure for Israel. It will create more tension. It will give more validity to people that say like, okay, well, we're not gonna do business with you.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I think Pakistan was even potentially contemplating something. But at the end of the day, when all of that is happening, when Israel is still very much a pariah state, I feel like the Democrats' opinion and the American government's opinion universally is like, oh, people will just like kind of forget about this. And I don't know. I just, I don't think that you will win Michigan
Starting point is 00:24:15 unless Kamala Harris like even attempts to try to read, like try to change the narrative on Gaza. Yeah, yes. On what she will do on Gaza. And they don't recognize this at all. And I think like it's there for the taking. You know, I think a lot of people would probably be willing to look past all this shit if she does some symbolic something other than just like I'm not attending his speech. Yeah. And she makes like some sort of statement about cutting off funding for arms or whatever. Because like people like
Starting point is 00:24:42 this war is not popular in America. Nobody I I mean, I think people just don't, they want it to just be gone. They don't want to think about it. To the extent that they're confronted with having to think about it, they don't like the idea that America is doing all this. Because it's getting, I mean, I don't know, like CBS Sunday morning just had an interview
Starting point is 00:24:57 with a trauma surgeon from America. Did you see that today? Yeah. Where he was just talking about like. And then there's sniper bullets. I have children that were shot twice. Wait, you're saying that children in Gaza are being shot by snipers? Definitively. I have two children that I have photographs of that were shot so perfectly in their chest I couldn't put my stethoscope over their heart more accurately and directly on the
Starting point is 00:25:20 side of the head in the same child. No toddler gets shot twice by mistake by the world's best sniper. And they're dead center shots. I'm treating toddlers who are shot through the heart and head with sniper bullets. And they have photos as well. They have photos of it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Like double tap. I have never heard of an army that, and this isn't new. This was a big thing in 2021 with the peaceful march that everyone's saying that Palestinians should try. But maybe 2018, the march on Gaza or the march on the wall. The march in 2021 where they like shot out everyone. After Sharia Nabokovic. That was 2021. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think.
Starting point is 00:26:00 It was 2018 when when the embassy was moving. I'm talking about when they like shot everyone's ankles. Wasn't that 21? That could be literally any moment. Right, right, right. Right. But I'm narrowing it down at all for Israel. Anyway, like I've never heard of an army where I think it's actual explicit policy, like it's in the field manuals.
Starting point is 00:26:23 How and when and how often you should shoot toddlers with this sniper rifle. Like that's, there's like obviously. They tweeted, the IDF tweeted after 2018 is what you're talking about, the peaceful march of return when they were walking to the border wall and they shot like, they shot like pregnant people,
Starting point is 00:26:42 they shot people in wheelchairs. The IDF literally tweeted out, we accounted for every bullet. And then I guess someone, maybe Daniel Higare was like, wait, this is not good. Maybe we should delete it. Cause they, they took out like 42 children's kneecaps. Yeah. They crippled entire families. Yeah. So they were like, maybe this is not the best PR. So they deleted it. It's like, oh, it's a little too late at that point.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And like, yeah, like, and Kamala is as guilty as Joe Biden is with all this shit. Like, I mean, the blood is on her hands, too. But the thing is, like, as I was saying earlier, like what we have here is essentially like it is reverted to a mean of like, we now have like more or less kind of like what should be in a normal presidential campaign and like the Democrats are right now seem to be more capable of taking advantage of that because Like we were talking to like last episode about how the Democratic Party has spent the last nine years
Starting point is 00:27:41 like becoming incapable of doing anything other than like the last nine years, like becoming incapable of doing anything other than confronting the threat that Trump represents. In those same nine years, the Republican Party has become a party that is just a reflection of Donald Trump, which means that when faced with an opponent who is just kind of the standard Democratic Party presidential candidate, they're incapable of running a normal presidential campaign, or sounding normal, or talking normal. And like, this is the two polls I'm polled here.
Starting point is 00:28:08 On the one hand, I see in Kamala Harris a presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton 2.0, who's maybe like 20% more human and relatable, but is still, could run a campaign that is just like celebrity endorsements and dangerous Donald. And if that's the case, it's going to look like fucking Nixon McGovern. I don't think it would look like Nixon McGovern, but I could see like, you know, sort of Hillary style popular vote victory, narrow popular vote victory, electoral college loss, or even a narrow popular vote victory due to lack of name recognition or something. But I don't Yeah, I don't know either way. But after I saw that Charlie XCX go, Kamala is Brad.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I was like, so. So get out. As I said earlier, but then I see the way that Trump particularly, who's just basically saying now, like, please bring back Joe Biden. It's not fair. Please. This isn't fair. I want Joe. Joe Biden is the legitimate president. He doesn't have COVID. Let him in. Let him in. It's just like we literally that with like, with with like,
Starting point is 00:29:11 it's not like you said the thing that we're like, they're all saying like, this is a coup. If you thought January six of the coup, then like a political party deciding that like, the guy who's president is like, decides for himself, hey, I don't want to run for president anymore. Here's my vice president. That's a coup before the convention too. Like that's the other part of it. It's like nothing is set in stone and now they want to do like legal paperwork to be like, no, you have to put Joe Biden on the ticket. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:39 first of all, if I'm the Republican party, the last thing I want to fucking do is remind people that like you try to do this complicated ballot swap initiative with like false electors and all this shit. So you're literally trying to rerun like loser shit that you did at the January 6th. They have a stink of loser mentality on them now. And that I can't because like this this runs counter to my natural programming, which is like, of course, the Democrats are going to fuck this up. is counter to my natural programming, which is like, of course, the Democrats are going to fuck this up. But the way the right wing media and Trump himself is reacting right now bespeaks a deep panic among them right now. The worst thing that happened among the worst things that happened to Trump, the Republican
Starting point is 00:30:15 Party, right, was not only losing in 2020, but like the way that they approached it afterwards. It's exactly right. It's the stench of loser-dom, of talking for years and years and years about how you didn't really lose and doing these incredibly boring court cases. Like we watched the Mike Lindell Chinese election movie. Remember that? Like remember how he-
Starting point is 00:30:42 Banger. He, it was a banger. He made a studio in his house and he would just have like, yeah, he would have different crack heads come on and be like, I saw a fucking Chinese guy in the computer room and Mike Lindell would go, wow. And they can change the vote to anything they want and send it back cyberly by cyber.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Correct. Wow. And it's four hours long and it's so confusing and boring But that it's just it's poison because you are to your output for years and years and years is I lost Keep in mind. I lost Remember that I hate that I lost and that I won't stop talking about it But I didn't really lose and remember that I'm a sore loser. It's poison. It's, and yeah, no, any rewind of that is death.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And also we're gonna make like 0.1% of the population be like the enemies of everybody and you have to constantly think about like children's genitals and like trans people. And it's like, it's yeah like trans people and it's like it's just like such a silly narrative to to try to run a national campaign on and you know macros was right it's just the normal voters were grossed out by that and they're literally rerunning that again and again because they just have no
Starting point is 00:32:01 other method to success like what are they gonna go back to? You think they're gonna go back to tort reform? Like they can't do that. You know, or deficit hawking? Yeah, they're making it a part of their national platform to talk about like Riley Gaines. Like who gives a fuck? Who gives, imagine anyone, I'm sorry, making like division three women swimming an issue
Starting point is 00:32:24 in their national party anyway Well, let's talk about JD because like he's this is him a couple years ago But but like it's coming it's being surfaced now that Kamala is by all accounts going to be the nominee He said a while ago that Kamala Harris is a childless cat lady Who is miserable with her life because she doesn't have children and that not having children means he doesn't have a direct stake in America like she was she wants to control our future But because she doesn't have any actual kids of her own, she has no stake in the future.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I was just thinking like, I was like, yeah, I forgot Kamala Harris is a stepparent, but like, what would you venture a guess at as to like what percentage of current American families are blended in some way? Cause it's probably close to half. Yeah, just master master class. Yeah. Parents are not real parents.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. Here first send this like sort of five, seven fruitcake out there. Who's where again dressed up like night man. Looks like shit looks insane. No one has ever looked like him. He looks so scary. He looks creepy. He looks so hard to look at. He look. Yeah, no, he looks like, I don't know, a molester from a TV movie. That's kind of his look. Like how, you know, child abductors were reviewed in the 80s, where it's like, oh, I'm abducting a child to worship Satan with. That's why I'm wearing eyeliner. Yeah, but at least without the beard,
Starting point is 00:34:05 he looked like a child. Like he looked like Augustus Glover or whatever. So like it wasn't as threatening. If he didn't have the beard and did the eyeliner now, he would look like a vetoed son from the sopranos. After he went, you're a fucking disgrace. You look like a Puerto Rican whoa. Trump's gonna send him to wilderness camp.
Starting point is 00:34:25 No, Trump said he looks hot. Beautiful blue eyes. Yeah, he has beautiful blue eyes. He's like so pretty. And I was like, what the fuck? But he's thinking about Eric and Don Jr. He's thinking he looks like a beautiful, beautiful boy compared to those two freaks. To Beavis and Butt-Head.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But like that, one of the most disconcerting looking guys ever goes out there and he's like, I don't know what, like 40, 50, 60 million voters? Not real parents. Fuck you. Yeah. No, no. Let's talk about the diet- the diet-do moment from today. Oh my god. Because this was- and like, once again, like I can sense the panic setting in about how bad a pick this was. A pick that made sense when you were running against a man who was fully senile and 80%
Starting point is 00:35:13 of his own voters are like, please do not run for president. It is the weirdest thing to me. Democrats say that it is racist to believe. Well, they say it's racist to do anything. I had a diet Mountain Dew yesterday and one today, I'm sure they're gonna call that racist too, but, it's good. I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:40 When I saw the diet soda pick, it made me yearn for the charisma and the just the explosive stage presence of Ron DeSantis Like yeah that made it sugar man look like the coolest thing anyone's no no this was like What I saw it was like so he's up there and apparently this was in his hometown too And like so the fire he's spinning is like yeah, I had I had a dying Mountain Dew yesterday I'll have one today. They'll probably say that that's racist But the really bad part is when he like it's like I've seen like you see so many stand-up comedians bombing and then they're just Like I love you guys and then you literally hear
Starting point is 00:36:22 like, I love you guys. And then you literally hear one clap in the background. I love you guys was. I love you guys. That was horrible. That was like, if he had gotten up there and been like, I'm leaving my wife for an 11 year old, I think it probably would have been better received because it's like, there's nothing worse
Starting point is 00:36:44 than to just bomb like that and be like, there's nothing worse than to just, just bomb like that and be like, all right, I'm killing it. I think that's just, humans have like a natural like, you go into vats when you see that. It makes you go crazy. I wanna kill someone when they do that. He has very like Pete Boudre style instincts, I think, where it's like focus tested in his mind.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He's like, what are these fucking disgusting mountain people from my hometown that I despise enjoy Mountain Dew that's what I'm gonna connect with them on. Diet Mountain Dew. Diet Dew. Yeah nobody's full sugary or too heavy. Nobody's fucking drinking diet Mountain Dew over there. This thing is halfway crooks. Yeah and also. Either you do the Dew or you don't. Isn't he supposed to be into all this stupid right wing stuff where it's like, oh, if you avoid drinking red dye number 63, it'll kill all the sperm in your body. Don't know, if you have peanut oil,
Starting point is 00:37:38 you're pretty much killing yourself. Is he into all that stuff? Yeah, he's- What do you think's diet mount do, JD? He's a podcaster. He's like a fucking born again- He's a Catholic revert or convert, right? Yeah, convert. Yeah. He's an adult- he's an adult convert to Catholicism, which is, you know, red flag right there.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And then beyond that, he's like such a podcaster adjacent person. That's why he has the childless, like a cat lady bar from Tucker Carlson, because for the longest time he wanted to pivot to like a Blake Masters style as one of Peter Thiel's blood boys. He wanted to be like Blake Masters and be like Groyper and based. So he would do that sort of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He started out his career trying to be Bill Crystal. Yeah. And yeah, now he's switching up the game and he just wants to be he wants to be he wants to be Tucker. But yeah, JD, I can't I can't wait to see where this goes with JD. I can't wait till Trump turns on. Oh, my. It's like if it didn't happen already after the Diet Mountain Duper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I mean, I feel about I'm sad that we are not getting a second Joe debate. I thought that was gonna be so fun. I thought it would bring everyone together. We're not getting it, unfortunately. But the same way I felt about that, I feel about what's the next weird thing JD Vance does? What's the next weird thing he does that annoys everyone?
Starting point is 00:39:06 We've already seen him bomb and go, thank, I love you guys, which is repellent. But it's just, you know, the world is his oyster. He just unfollowed Steve Saylor today. He just remembered that he had to do that. He just, and it's perfect, right? It's perfect because doing it now where everyone's paying attention, you look craven and like you don't believe in anything. Like, oh, that was expedient
Starting point is 00:39:33 for you to do when you were ascended in online right circles to show how based you are. But now that you're on the national stage, you're going to completely disavow that but it also makes you look completely fucking Transactional the same reason that people were turned off by Pete Buttigieg But also insane also like a lunatic I have an article here in Politico that shines some light into the inner life of Mr. JD Vance headline here how Lord of the Rings shaped J.D. Vance's politics. A lot of my conservative worldview was influenced by Tolkien. I hate I we need to we need to get this boy some pads and a tackling dome.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We need to get out there on the football field before before the general election. Whenever I hear anyone talk about Tolkien, I always think, let's get you some shifts at a Costco or something. Maybe we could get enroll you in a class. I've always sort of been against Tolkien since I tried to read Lord of the Rings like 20 years ago, and there are so many songs in that fucking book. I don't know who wants to read all those songs.
Starting point is 00:40:43 But George R. R. Martin, that is the pick of the of the Bricks countries. George R.R. Martin, you know, I just want to read here from the political piece here. It says, quote, By the time the by the time the Lord of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Nira has been entrusted to Gandalf to resist the corrupting influence of evil, preserve the world from decay, and give strength to its wielder," said Tolkien head John Shelton, who was not engaging in fantasy literature as Policy Director for Advancing American Freedom, founded by former Vice President Mike Pence.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Gandalf, unlike the other great powers in Lord of the Rings, cared for the hobbits and other lowly people of Middle-earth, and so it is unsurprising that Vance would see himself as a kind of Gandalf, caring for the forgotten people of his hometown, keeping a watchful eye on them against the corrupting effects of the world. Yeah, that's when you, that's your, you read Lord of the Rings, I'm Gandalf. Like, come on. This is so lib coded too, I just,
Starting point is 00:41:40 I despise this motherfucker so much for like that reason alone almost, where he's like He's tailored his entire media presence around like appealing to liberals in the in his formative years I am in the when he was a young when he was a young man of the age of like what? 35 when he thought Trump was Hitler. Yeah, because the media duped him which is wonderful narrative, right? Yeah Oh, yeah wonderful narrative right there. Yeah, oh yeah. It's the same thing Tucker Carlson says when you're like, you were for the Iraq war when you were like 48. I was fooled! Going over this says, Luke Burgess,
Starting point is 00:42:13 author of a book about René Girard, another of Vance's intellectual heroes and Catholic University of America professor, said he suspects Vance's appreciation of Tolkien is not unrelated to his conversion to Catholicism in 2019. Of the many ways that Tolkien's work exemplifies the Catholic imagination, one is the relationship between the visible and the invisible. I think it's fair to say that Vance believes that there is real spiritual evil in the world and it can become embodied in rites and rituals. At a closed-door speech in September 2021, Vance said, I believe the devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. So like his line is here is I'm a wizard who will save all of these, these these habits, these little holler habits from the from the evils of the world.
Starting point is 00:42:59 But also, but also I'm a wizard who is working for Sauron until like two years ago. I just realized Sauron's bad. Well, listen to this. He says, Vance has said his own time in the Marines deployed in Iraq was formative to his isolationist dovish approach to foreign policy. Sure. I served my country honorably and I saw when I went to Iraq that I had been lied to Vance when recount once recounted. I saw the promises of the foreign policy establishment of this
Starting point is 00:43:24 country were a complete joke. Still support Israel though. You know, it's like another adult man being conned and lied to. It's a Tulsi Gabbard phenomenon. It's just, you know, you're the base anti-imperialist because you went to Iraq, but you also want to continue murdering as many brown children as possible. Yeah. but you also want to continue murdering as many brown children as possible. Yeah, yeah. I'm a based isolationist, anti-imperialist who's completely in support of Israel.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And also, yeah, we need to, like this, this brinksmanship with Russia needs to end no World War Three. Let's instead tilt our sabers towards China. Yeah. Yeah. Let's stop wasting our time with this Ukraine stuff so we can do the same thing in Taiwan Okay. Well, I'm glad you brought up Taiwan because I have another I have another reaction to the Biden news This comes from courtesy of Felix as you're now referring to a bill smoke crack man. This is
Starting point is 00:44:21 He's so far do not like like, if you won the lottery, if you successfully sued the city after getting hit by a mail truck, I don't know. Whatever circumstances giving you a high net worth, if you're able to invest in hedge funds, do not invest with Bill Smoke Crackman. He got his shirt taken by Herbalife. That was strike one. And now he thinks, like he thinks there were two Trump shooters? You think there was a second shooter at the Trump event?
Starting point is 00:44:52 God, him and his wife, what a pair. Bill is smoking crack and his wife needs to live in a habit trail. But this is Bill Ackman from yesterday. One would think that a letter to the American people from the president announcing his decision to step aside would not be signed using a digital signature and would be accompanied by a photo op and a scheduled conference in the morning that followed. Instead, we have a digitally signed letter released on the president's ex account, an account we know is run by a staffer, no photo and no live scheduled address to the American
Starting point is 00:45:24 people. If I were China, I would invade Taiwan tomorrow. Buddy, if you were China, if you were China, herbal life would not still be here. But I got to say, I mean, to Bill Smoke, crack man's credit, I have been wondering, is Biden actually dead? Because I haven't seen hide nor have I. Hilarious. he just quietly died On the car ride over here. Do you remember when MF doom died? And it was yeah, it was like at the very end of the year They were they should I say like MF doom has died, but he actually died like three months early
Starting point is 00:45:57 And they just like announced it at the end of the year. Well, do you think um, you know? This is kind of sad but sometimes when like a working dog, like a hunting dog or something, when they're very old and they know they're gonna die, they, it's part of their like, you know, it's in their DNA that if they think they're gonna die,
Starting point is 00:46:16 they go somewhere where they think they won't like hold the pack back. They go away from the pack. They go under the porch. Yeah, under the porch or something so they can go die and so it doesn't endanger the rest of the brood. Do you think that Biden probably has a lot of Major and champs DNA in him now? That's probably they're really keeping him alive.
Starting point is 00:46:35 The summer house in Delaware. Yeah, they were giving him like organs from Champ and Major and Champion and fucking Battleship and Navy and all the other dogs we've never heard of. And he's probably half dog now. He might have wandered into like the East wing and gone into that tunnel that LBJ installed in the White House so he could have affairs and went in there and just silently died and no one has any idea. No one's seen him. I have an update on this narrative that, you know, a lot of Republicans are wandering about and brave truth tellers here at Chappo Trap House. Kamala Harris did her first like big public appearance since the since she took over the election campaign at the campaign headquarters
Starting point is 00:47:26 in Wilmington. I think it was in Wilmington and Joe Biden was on the phone and Joe Biden was actually shockingly more coherent than he has ever been. I'm not even kidding. He was alert. It is so good to hear our president's voice Joe I know you're still on the on the call and we've been talking every day You probably you guys heard it from Doug's voice. We love Joe and Jill we really do They truly are like family to us and we I'm watching you, kids. I love you. I love you. He was talking. Have you guys seen that AI Joe Biden being like, oh yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like all you guys fucking suck. I'm not leaving. Like that. There was like a, like a fake state of the union video. I didn't see that one. It sounded like AI Biden. I'm not even kidding. It sounded like AI Biden and I saw a bunch of Republicans be like, that's AI. That's not real Biden. Or that's pre-recorded. That must be pre-recorded. Even though they kept the phone going and he would chime in every now and then after Kamala got on and started giving a speech, every now and then he would respond,
Starting point is 00:48:46 but it feeds into the narrative. It feeds into the conspiracy that maybe Biden is dead and they're just using AI voice now over the phone. He does have that brother that looks exactly like him, like 10% like more evil. This is a, remember Kevin Klein movie Dave. Yeah, yeah. They get a guy who looks like the president to be president
Starting point is 00:49:08 when the president dies or goes into a coma or something. Yeah, it could be. Did you see the but this was like literally an hour before Biden finally stepped down died with died. But Frank Biden said something about how Joe resents Obama. He either like someone close to him leaked this or he leaked it to the media. And the Biden family, a source from within the Biden family, so who knows who this was, said, that's actually not true.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Frank Biden suffers from alcoholism and the president doesn't like him. And I just I love on the way out that we found out that everyone in the Biden family also despises each other. Well, I mean, another thing that's interesting about the reporting about Biden stepping down is like reporting from Politico over the weekend had the people in Biden's inner circle who were like the comms people who were like up until that morning issuing statements like we're in it to win it. Everything you've heard is the lie. Like, you know, he is tan rested ready. He is vigorous and ready to take this to November and beat
Starting point is 00:50:14 Donald Trump. They found out about it from Twitter. Yeah. And like the way the fact that like everyone in his inner circle had no fucking clue that this was going to happen and then were shocked to find out when it did happen. I really like that because there is no one on earth who he treats worse than the people who really believe in him. Yeah, no, I mean like on one hand it is like incompetent management. It's some level like, however his brain is functioning, on level, you can't help but have contempt for these. Right. Right. Even if like John, like even if you're Joe Biden, you agree with John Kirby and everything, you can't like look at him and be like, oh, I want this guy's life to be easier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I don't think anybody wants John Kirby's life to be easier. Yeah. I got. But like, I mean, like I there was some great there was some great stuff like leading into Sunday. This is my one of my favorite Biden accounts. Trouble Man said I love Trouble Man is a trouble. The one that said he's a he's a Biden or buster. I could have been. Was that was that Jimmy Harrison or no, no, no. Jimmy Harrison has said that as well. Yeah. He said I need to recollect my thoughts because I'm still riding with Biden after Biden dropped out.
Starting point is 00:51:28 You're the head of the party. He was crying. OK, wait, no, the Jimmy Harrison quote was great. Let me find that. Yeah, Jimmy Harrison says, I'm emotional because I'm still riding with Biden. I still support my president. You're the head of the party. I do like Chris Jackson had almost like,
Starting point is 00:51:45 he's my favorite like pro-Biden guy because he is, I don't even think he's really gotten anything from Joe. Like he has a, he probably has like some bullshit job in the White House, but he's not like, he hasn't been majorly remunerated. He just really is into Joe for some crazy reason. And he said, well, I hope you're fucking happy. Anything he said, anything that happens now is on you.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Now, watch out for the storm. The troubled man said Biden's loyalty to Kamala is something to behold. He sees the wolves eyeing her, trying to usurp not only him, but her as well. And he will be damned if he lets that happen. I am deeply moved and motivated more than ever to push or carry him across the finish line. Yeah, I would assume it's more of a carry.
Starting point is 00:52:36 But I love the idea that they're trying to usurp Kamala by making her the presidential nominee. That was the best part That was the best part. Like that, you know, making Joe step down and making Kamala the nominee, it's somehow it's somehow like an attack on her and all black women. Yeah, that was a that was a sneaky thing. They tried in Biden world in the last week and it really did not go anywhere. You know, you know who is picking up and running without the right wing media? Yeah. This is how you know. Like, with that? The right-wing media. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:05 This is how you know, like, OK, this is Eric Erikson. Kamala Harris is the daughter of an Indian and Jamaican immigrants who married a Jewish man. Her experience is the American dream and melting pot, but not really the black experience, particularly that in southern swing states like Georgia and North Carolina. You would know, Eric.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But like, that's also true of Obama. and that didn't matter one fucking iota. Yeah. I don't think it mattered to swing voters in Georgia and North Carolina. Yeah, and it's also like, maybe you could try that. Probably not. That would probably, you could probably- They should go with the full ADOS, they should go with the full ADOS. Yeah, no, yeah, they should do a second convention with like Umar up there. But you like you can't you wouldn't be able to pull this off anytime. Like you could never get like Eric Erickson up there to talk about like what the real black experience is. But especially not after like three years of
Starting point is 00:53:59 like every Republican retweeting accounts called like black crime alerts. You really like okay, do you like black people or not what one more reaction I know you don't understand Trump Trump got convicted And he got shot at he's just like Yo fam slap five Alright, there's a really good JD Vance reaction. This is from a guy who goes by Chrisman and this is Chrisman Frank. And this is like the most factory reject Matt Chrisman I've ever heard. He's some tech shithead. But listen to this. He said, Vance has a wartime physiognomy. What? The Cola Wars?
Starting point is 00:54:43 He says Vance has wartime physiognomy. He looks like every civil war general who got promoted after the first few battles happened and people figured out who was good at war. OK, so you mean like the Confederate generals who like inbred? The Confederate generals who Robert E. Lee promoted because he was like, you have beautiful eyes. And then they lost like 20 armies worth of guys. This is what I mean about how like,
Starting point is 00:55:08 they can't just talk about, she's gonna tax and spend. Yeah. She's going to surrender to our enemies abroad. They have to talk about fucking physiognomy. And also like physiognomy for JD. Like he, no, that's not a war time. No one in the Civil War looked like him.
Starting point is 00:55:26 You could only look like JD Vance. No one in the Civil War ate enough calories to look like JD Vance. The only guys who had enough money to look like JD Vance were like JP Morgan and guys like that. You have to be a billionaire to afford that much like pig fat and beef transported by train. He'd be out by 35 with gout. Like it would be over for him. Yeah, it's just, I don't even, I don't give a shit if he was in the Marines. He does not look like he was in a war.
Starting point is 00:55:53 No, he was, but I think he was like a PR guy anyway. Like I don't think he was like. It was like a Ron DeSantis type position. No, no, he wasn't like a lawyer. I think he like did PR for the military. I don't know. I think Pete Buttigieg might've done more might have seen more action. Yeah, J.D. Vance, but it's mineral maps.
Starting point is 00:56:10 There is a picture of J.D. of Pete Buttigieg looking insane. Like he he only has a strap on him when he's got that stick on them. He looks insane in that picture. Insanely hot, you mean? Yeah, I sort of go back to the Politico article about Lord of the Rings, because, you know, we keep coming back to this guy, but at the very end of the article, they talked to Vance's close friend, conservative writer Rod Dreher, which once again, you cannot have a guy on your ticket who's close friends
Starting point is 00:56:40 with fucking Rod Dreher. That's death. Like like Mike Pence was I always thought he was like, not a good choice, but like less shitty than Trump could have picked, because he was like a reassuringly like normal dope for a lot of people. You know, like he, I remember reading Mike Pence's article about Mulan.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And uh. Wait, what did he have to say about Mulan? He was like, well, this movie teaches girls to be boys, and I don't think that's OK. He wrote it in like 1998. The Mongols are invading your country. What do you got to do? You got to do. Well, but but girls should be girls. That's what the article was.
Starting point is 00:57:19 But he was just like he's such a simple man. Yeah, he's a real bumpkin. You could probably sell, after everything Mike Pence has been through, you could probably still sell him a magic jumping beat. He did go from a born again evangelical to a born again Catholic, technically. Both of them are adult converts.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's exactly reversed because Mike Pence was born Catholic and really inverted Yeah, he swapped it out. Yeah, he's like a evangelical Protestant and I guess JD Vance was Protestant, but now he's Catholic. Yeah, just any kinship with Rod Dreher is He red flag. Yeah the opposite of reassuring Well, I mean what he says here is conservative writer Rod Dreher, who Vance invited to his initiation to the faith in 2019 and was present for his first communion, told me that Vance
Starting point is 00:58:11 is thinking broadly about how all must join in the great struggle against darkness. There is no avoiding the struggle and how God can use the humble and low born to do great things. Think about it. Who would have imagined that sad, scared little Ohio boy living in a wreck of a family would have come all through it all and risen to the gates of supreme political power? What might God be doing with him? J.D. Vance might be the Frodo of the Hollers, a veritable hillbilly hobbit. Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And it's just like the way, like I know Democrats can't talk to, you know, like working class or rural whites, but consider the way that these people look at them. They're like, we love you and your little hollers. You're like a little elf. Oh my god, you guys are like, I know you're low born and stupid, but you're still someone to do great things against the darkness. You're like a bunch of like sort of useless little fruit fruity guys who take nine years to throw a ring into a mountain. So stupid and you sing songs of bread.
Starting point is 00:59:12 That sad scared little Ohio boy. I mean, you're supposed to be drawing a contrast between what we see now. And what I saw with that diamond Mountain Dew thing was a terrified, terrified Ohio man boy. That clip is going, that's going to be in the TikTok crowd work algorithm. Matt Reif should, he should study JD Vance. He just has so much contempt for like the very same people that he's supposed to be from like both from the hillbilly elegy. Like his entire shtick, I don't understand why people forget that his entire shtick was just being like the mountain people are addicted to fentanyl.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Like I was joking about this, but like he basically, the way he talks about like white people in the Appalachian Mountains in that region is kind of like racist against like a certain subsect of white people, which I didn't even think was possible. Where he like, he just says like, oh, it's not their race. It's just their culture that's inferior. Yeah. They don't listen to enough. That's why that's why that's why that's why he got such it was so heavily promoted and like owes so much of his initial like use to liberals because that's the message that they want to hear. He was like white uncle Ruckus. He always grossed me out even when he was, before he started hanging out with Rodger and all this because it's like that book was so cynical
Starting point is 01:00:34 because he's selling out everyone he's ever known and talking about how they're pieces of shit who could never get it together to go to Harvard like he did and the subtext, not even subtext, I would say the explicit message of that book was like, you don't have to care about these people. They're either useless, they're lazy. They never take accountability and Trump is their fault. And then he wraps it up with like, cause I listened to his Ted talk and
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm it was, it was, it was awful. But I listened to a lot of his like older stuff. Um, when he was on MSNBC, his older work, when he was on MSNBC, every night, Chris Matthews is like, yeah, this is a phenomenal book. I love it. It taught me so much about the mind of the Southern Angloid. And they do.
Starting point is 01:01:19 They have so much content overall. It's like that classic liberal contempt for the Bicost Elite, uh, just who just think that these are like a different class of human altogether. And his solution was for like every, all of these, like come country bumpkins who just couldn't make it out the cut like he did was. Just, you know, get lucky and also grind hard like it was like oh they just lack determination and if only they had determination they'd be able to you know
Starting point is 01:01:51 accomplish things and overcome the fact that like they live in a fucking food desert in the last Walmart just closed down you know and there's not anywhere that they give food reliably for like 30 fucking miles and there's no hospital so they have to go to the fucking veterinarian to get like medical care. Like, they'll just overcome that by grinding hard. Do you remember when JD Vance, after he became based, after, by the way, I don't know why Rod Dreher was at his Catholic conversion.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Rod Dreher was Eastern Orthodox. He's like, Catholicism wasn't like intense enough for him. But after he became based, that post he had where he's like universal child care is a war on normal people. Yeah, you're really fucking normal, JD. But returning to the to our fallen leader, Joe Biden, I want to turn to John Meacham writing in The New York Times.
Starting point is 01:02:47 The headline here, this is an op ed piece. Joe Biden, my friend and an American hero. And I got to give it up to Stav, who said, imagine being so bad at your job that quitting it, people call you a hero for doing it. And like, John Meacham is I think I
Starting point is 01:03:03 think he like he helped Mark Halpern reported that that Meacham was the one helping him write his statement exiting the race. Meacham is like the the definition of like middle brow American historian and this is what they're putting on the record. They're trying to like, you know, set the mold right now. So lay the foundation for how Joe Biden will be remembered, which is like, fat fucking chance. How's he going to be remembered? I don't know, like 250,000 dead people in Gaza.
Starting point is 01:03:28 That's how he's going to be fucking remembered. And there's no way out of that for him. And he got a petulant baby. Yeah. Who facilitated and did everything he could to continue genocide. And Jill Biden said it best when she was like chirping last week, when she was like, we can't let Joe Biden drop out because his legacy will be tarnished and all he'll be remembered is that he lost the debate and that will be forever. Like you know what?
Starting point is 01:03:53 People remember Joe Biden as and it's like, but that's what happened. He got owned so fucking hard that like he had to drop out and like that is your legacy. You did it to him too. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, this is John Meacham writing the New York Times. On the cliffs of Normandy in a small holding area, the president of the United States was looking out at
Starting point is 01:04:10 the English Channel. It was only six weeks ago on the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings. And President Biden had just finished his remarks at the American cemetery atop Omaha Beach. Guests had been congratulating him on the speech, but he didn't want to talk about himself. The moment was not about him. It was about the men who had fought and died there. Today feels so large, he told me. This may sound strange and I don't mean it to, but when I was out there I felt the honor of it, the sanctity of it. To speak for the American people, to speak over those graves, it's a
Starting point is 01:04:40 profound thing. He turned from the view over the beaches and gestured back toward the war dead. You want to do right by them, the country." So, yeah, his primary concern is doing right by dead people, but he's not doing much for anyone who's currently alive in this country, and like that's the problem. But like, just the attempt to sort of graft onto Joe Biden, this gravitas of like D-Day, and like, again, what everyone remembers from that moment is him wandering around like a kid lost in a supermarket. Yeah, looking at like the wrong guy who landed the parachute and just being shocked that people are capable of flight now.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I'm just confused. So he goes on to say, Mr. Biden has spent a lifetime trying to do right by the nation, and he did so in the most epic of ways when he chose to end his campaign for re-election. So epic, like a petulant child, like desperately clawing on the power, pure spite driven too.
Starting point is 01:05:35 In the furor bunker with his crackhead son who just like, just wants a pardon and has seen the spiral out of control. His decision is one of the most remarkable acts of leadership in our history, an act of self-sacrifice that places him in the company of George Washington, who also stepped away from the presidency. By the way, George Washington, another childless president who had no stake in our future. He was a cat lady.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah, he was a cat boy. He was a cat person. He did. Oh, that's that short story was based on stuff he did. It's really gross. Meacham has to do this. All the like liberal airport novelists have to do this. It's like a consolation prize for the Jamie Harrison type people. Van Jones cried. Van Jones cried, which is like that level of glazing.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Like, it should be illegal. He said it's like taking away the keys from your grandfather. And you know, after he's killed someone, in this case killed thousands of people. And it's just like you still love him and you want to give him the key is so bad because he just loves driving so much. But like what's so crazy about it is like if Joe Biden had and you know he always thought he was really clever by not explicitly saying I will only serve one term but like only hinting on it so you could never like hold him to it. But if he had actually done that if he had not even like gone to the debate in like you
Starting point is 01:07:01 know the beginning of this year or the end of last year. Not had Kamala as his VP, but like someone who was actually like a rising star in the party. Right. If he had actually done that step down, then like, I, you know, it would sicken me. But people actually would probably talk about him that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:18 They would see him as the guy who beat Trump and then stepped aside and was a bridge candidate. Yeah. And I mean, like, he really only has himself to blame for this. The last time he talked about the bridge candidate thing was my favorite interview ever, the Lester Holt one, where Lester Holt says,
Starting point is 01:07:36 you said you were gonna be a bridge candidate, and Biden said something along the lines of like, got in there, blah, blah, blah. It was a lot of stuff. Powerful stuff, a lot of stuff to do. Well, he was like, I was going to be a bridge candidate, but I still have things I want to do. Yeah. I've got unfinished business. It's like, you better hurry up. He chose Kamala as his running mate because she was a zero that wouldn't know. Yeah. And now, and now she has to run
Starting point is 01:08:05 for president. Now she has to beat Donald Trump. Do you guys not remember like in the first two years, three years, like they would just send Kamala on side mission. They were so insane. They were like, yeah, go to the, go to the Caribbean or something. I don't fucking know. Go to the Philippines. They wouldn't, they wouldn't, they wouldn't make her speak about the most unpopular parts of their agenda. They made her the border thing where they were like, just tell people not to come here. Yeah. She told Guatemalans not to come. Do not come. Do not come. Back to Meacham here. It goes on for a bit about, you know, about comparing him to George Washington, but he goes here. here is the story I believe history will tell of Joe Biden.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And you can see the palpable wish casting. They're like, tell the story about Joe Biden, history. I'm warning you. But he says, with American democracy in an hour of maximum danger in Donald Trump's presidency, Mr. Biden stepped in the breach. He staved off an authoritarian threat at home, rallied the world against autocrats abroad.
Starting point is 01:09:05 What? He's hosting Netanyahu tomorrow. It says, rally the world against autocrats abroad, laid the foundation for decades of prosperity, managed the end of a once in a century pandemic, successfully legislated on vital issues of climate and infrastructure. This infrastructure bill is being... they're playing up the infrastructure bill like it's the Civil Rights Act. I don't even know what's in it anymore because of crazy liberals talking about it. The way they make it sound, it's like the American Belt and Road Project. Like it's insane.
Starting point is 01:09:40 So he says here, conducted a presidency worthy of the greatest of his predecessors, history and fate brought him to the pinnacle in a late season in life, and in the end, he respected fate and he respected the American people. He literally didn't. No, no, no, he didn't. Like, he did not do any of that. It took, like, a member of the mafia, Nancy Pelosi,
Starting point is 01:10:02 threatening him and his family. That's what he had. Like that's he is not a man who respects fate at all. Character, as the Greeks first taught it, is destiny. And Mr. Biden's character is both a mirror and a maker of his nations. True. Like Franklin. Very true. Like Franklin Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. He is optimistic, resilient and kind, a steward of American greatness.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Also demented like Ronald Reagan. I love this thing about Biden being kind, because it's always taken from like these cherry pick things of like, he'll meet a kid with a stutter and then like call him on the phone once, and not like the thousands of other stories of him being a horrible asshole. Like oh wow, he didn't immediately spit on a child and like kick him. What an amazing guy. He is optimistic, resilient and kind, a steward of American greatness, a lover of the great game of politics and at heart a hopeless romantic about the country he is that has given him
Starting point is 01:11:02 so much. Nothing bears out this point as well as his decision to let history happen in the twenty twenty four election. No matter how much people say that this was inevitable after the debate in Atlanta last month, there was nothing foreordained about an American president ending his political career for the sake of his country and his party. By surrendering the possibility of enduring in the seat of
Starting point is 01:11:21 ultimate power, Mr. Biden has taught us a landmark lesson in patriotism, humility and wisdom. I mean, knowing what we know now, we all saw that story that was like this only really happened because they finally did get a whole number and they realized that it was impossible for Biden to win, that he was trailing by double digits in like Arizona. Literally, the only reason this happened is because he did the
Starting point is 01:11:44 math and realized people would hate him more if he stayed in and lost and that there was a 99% chance of him losing. That's it. That is the only reason this happened. He also said only God can tell me to quit. And then immediately Trump like survived an assassination attempt by millimeters by millimeters. And then he got covid like in a matter of seven days, God was like, no dog, get the fuck out of the race. What are you doing? I know we're going a little long, but I just wanted like one more.
Starting point is 01:12:17 The now totally irrelevant Aaron Sorkin op ed. Where? Oh, yes. Where? OK, when I saw this, I was like Aaron Sorgen, like how I would script it. The Democrats nominated Mitt Romney and I thought for a second he meant as Kamala's VP. No, he meant as president.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Like you may as well just be like, OK, like, let's nominate Donald Trump. OK, I'm not one of these people is like Aaron Sorgen hates women or whatever. I don't really know enough. But like I feel like he maybe definitely fucking hates women The Paley Center for Media just opened an exhibition celebrating the 25th anniversary of the West Wing the Mb series our Mbc series I wrote from 1999
Starting point is 01:13:00 2003 some of the show's story points have been become outdated in the last quarter century Some of the show's story points have become outdated in the last quarter century. The first five minutes of the first episode depended entirely on the audience being unfamiliar with the acronym POTUS, while others turned out to be, well, not prescient, but sadly coincidental. Gunman tried to shoot a character after an event with President Bartlett at the end of Season 1. At the end of Season 2, in an episode called, Two Cathedrals, a serious illness that Bartlett had been concealing from the public had come to light,
Starting point is 01:13:28 and the president hobbled, face the question of whether to run for reelection. Yeah, he said in the third season opener, and I'm going to win. I would love to see, by the way, Biden do the Two Cathedral scene, where he's talking to God. Come on, man, can you give me another, fuck. Anyway, anyway. Anyway, man, why did you? It was a tugboat.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Fucking man. You put the. Why did you kill my mom? Well, I mean, it really was pressure because in Bartlett's tirade to God, he's like, I lowered the unemployment rate, you cocksucker. Yeah. Yeah. And then Biden would be like, infrastructure bill. The whole meat show list of his accomplishments would include the infrastructure bill. I'm the only guy who got up there and made Europe put together. I did the EU. Fucker. God.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Is he going to tell him Sweden and Finland join NATO? God's going to be very impressed. God finally responds. My bad. Yeah. But he says here at their convention next month, the Democrats should nominate Mitt Romney. Nominating Mr. Romney would be putting our money where our mouth is. A clear and powerful demonstration that this election isn't about what our elections are usually about, but about stopping a deranged man from taking power.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Biden is deranged. Like this is what we've all been seeing. This is why he dropped out. He is deranged. Surely Mr. Romney've all been seeing. This is why he dropped out. He is deranged. Surely, Mr. Romney, who doesn't have to be introduced to voters, would peel off enough Republican votes to win, probably by a lot. Why? Why do you think that? I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:14:56 They just like think that there's no other voters. Like the only people that you can the only people that you can target are people who are lifelong Republicans who have Hitler larian politics living in the suburbs like those are the only voters that matter the people that read New York Times office and watch MSNBC sometimes double haters would be turned into single haters and the Nikki Haley voters would have somewhere to go miss Haley having disqualified herself when she endorsed leader of an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the government why is he dick riding a loser on the Republican side?
Starting point is 01:15:27 If this was true, if the math was there for, I guess, a moderate Republican to win half of all Republican votes, then why have they lost every primary since 2014? This is the best paragraph to your point of thought about Aaron Sorkin's attitude towards women. Does Mr. Romney support abortion rights? No! Does he want to aggressively raise the minimum wage, bolster public education, strengthen unions, expand transgender rights, and enact progressive tax reform? Probably not. But is he a cartoon thug who did nothing but watch TV while the
Starting point is 01:16:04 mob he assembled beat and used tasers on police officers? No. The choice between Donald Trump and not Trump and the not Trump candidate needs only one qualification to win enough votes from the cross-section of Americans to close off the former president's electoral college path back to power. And this really sums up the anti-political worldview of so many liberals and people like Aaron Sorkin, because he's like, yeah, is supporting abortion rights important for a Democratic presidential candidate? No, what is important is that they felt bad
Starting point is 01:16:34 about a cop being tasered. I will say this is emblematic, I don't know of anyone else this is emblematic of other than Aaron Sorkin. Like, to be fair here, I can't know if anyone else is as emblematic of other than Aaron's work. And like, to be fair here, I can't think of anyone at this point in history, besides maybe Joe Scarborough, those are probably the only two people that think this. Part of the wish fulfillment of the West Wing was that oratory can be persuasive. So Barack Obama could come forth at the Democratic convention next month in Chicago and remind
Starting point is 01:17:01 us once again that we're not red states and blue states But the United States by full-throatedly endorsing his old rival and mr Romney could make the case that the Democrats are putting the country before party in ways of the MAGA movement will not and Announces bipartisan cabinet picks at the convention that would that would go so You know would go great running against Trump and and being like, okay You know all the people you hate from the political establishment, we're all working together to stop genius. I mean, yeah, I don't have much more. I don't have much more on Aaron Sorkin, but I mean, like he's
Starting point is 01:17:36 already walked it back. He was like, I take it back. This is like, it's amazing because like, this is, could you design a situation that removes Joe Biden, but makes Trump even more likely to win? It's amazing because like this is, could you design a situation that removes Joe Biden, but makes Trump even more likely to win? It's this. Does he have no friends? Like not a single person that he could have just been like, yo, do you guys think this is a good idea if I write this? Like you didn't have a single person be like, dude, what the fuck did you say?
Starting point is 01:18:02 Mitt Romney? Are you on crack? He brought the Olympics to Salt Lake City. Right? Yeah, that's right. He's great. Another guy who's inexplicably now rendered in contrast to Trump is a decent, kind-hearted man. The fucking private equity dog torture?
Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah. Oh, there was another... This is like last second stuff, but I got to mention fucking my boy Matty Iglesias. Oh, what's he been on about? So one of the obvious villains of on the Democratic side of the Democratic Party has
Starting point is 01:18:38 been obviously Joe Manchin, who like left the party and now he like wants to come back and run for president in the open convention and and Mattie Iglesias said it's actually a brilliant idea. Which is like like how are these people getting paid for political analysis? What do these people believe in? Like that's what I want to know. Like what do they actually believe in? I don't think even they know. Yeah, no. Like why would who who would vote for Joe Manchin?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Like, I don't understand. I guess West Virginia's. But that's it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's practically like winning California or Texas. You know, so many votes there. Well, it's been it's been an unprecedented week in American history RIP to Joe Biden Like I said coming back to comely here. I
Starting point is 01:19:36 I'm not I would not be too confident that she that this is a layup election for the Democrats Even even now that it's reverted back to norm but the Republicans seem pretty pressed by this and it's gonna be interesting to see where it all turns out if If she runs like a normal if she doesn't say the word NATO even once running for president, I think they should be pretty confident about their chances. Can they do that though is the question. I follow this stuff pretty closely as you guys know and I also get like real-time feedback from a lot of people in my chat and when she delivered her speech in the campaign headquarters, it
Starting point is 01:20:07 was carbon copy Joe Biden. Like she was just basically she had been handed a script that was Joe Biden's script that he was supposed to read at a certain point and failed to do so. But she was able to deliver it because, you know, she her I
Starting point is 01:20:21 guess they took her off the Xanax. I don't know. But like it wasn't very convincing. It wasn't very charismatic. I said't know. But like it wasn't very convincing. It wasn't very charismatic. I said like she doesn't have she doesn't have charisma. She doesn't have Riz is what I said. And people immediately were like, oh, you're expecting her to shuck and jive for you. And I was like, this is like they're so ready. Yeah. Mind the mind of like a like a ride or die Democratic Party liberal
Starting point is 01:20:44 is so ready to just be like, oh, you must be like a like a ride or die Democratic Party liberal is so ready to just be like, oh, you must be like a racist sexist person for saying that like Kamala Harris. But you were a racist sexist person a week ago for saying that she should be the nominee. Yeah. No, but they were on board with that back then. They were like the people who were like, yeah, we got to get Joe Biden out. But now they're like, okay, but now Kamala's in and, you know, we got to fucking, we got to make sure that we are strongly committed to her. I don't know. I mean, like to put a religious cast over everything, to us on your point earlier, what God is saying to Joe Biden,
Starting point is 01:21:15 I think he's saying to all of America, which is that we are cursed. Yeah. Kill yourself. God is saying, kill yourself and everyone, you know. Yeah. Um, Gun to my head, just in general, but also if being forced to pick a winner of this election, gun to my head if I had to pick it right now, I would probably say that Trump loses. Just seeing like the sheer degree of like panic and incompetence and just, I mean.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And the fact that he is like kind of low energy, like he's losing his rhythm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, gun to my head, that's what I think. I think regardless, Democrats probably pick up the House, but beyond that, who knows, who knows? We did say this was a great environment for what we want the 50,000 voter election And we just might get that
Starting point is 01:22:09 So I'm I'm hoping for that Well, who knows what events will hold in the coming weeks and months. Oh, yeah, we will be in Chicago I mean the show's already sold out But I am as I said cannot be prouder to carry the banner of Biden or bust to Chicago because if it ain't Biden, you ain't American, Jack. If you don't vote for Biden, if you don't write in Joe Biden, then you have betrayed democracy. Yeah, write in Joe Biden and Frank Biden, right? And Frank Biden is his running mate. Just to be saved if he dies. Yeah, no, he's the closest thing we have to Joe right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:45 But yeah, we will be going to Chicago. We will be using the witching branches on the DNC to bring back Joe. I'll be there as well. Well, Asan, we'll look forward to seeing you in Chicago. Thanks for hosting us in the podcast, Stu. And thanks for making some time to talk. Like I said, you've been talking nonstop about this. So thanks for making some time.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Yeah. Thanks for having me. to talk, like I said, you've been talking non-stop about this, so thanks for making some time. Yeah, thanks for having me. To talk to us about these unprecedented events, these human events that we're living through. Alright, we'll leave it there for today everybody. Till next time, bye bye. Put the lime in the coconut, you drank a bottle of Put the lime in the coconut, you drank a bottle of Put the lime in the coconut, you called the doctor, woke up and said Doctor, ain't there nothing I can take? I said, doctor Do you really think this belly ache? I said, doctor
Starting point is 01:23:39 Ain't there nothing I can take? I said, doctor

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