Chapo Trap House - 884 - Pool Boys (11/11/24)
Episode Date: November 12, 2024We start off with some Monkey News, then continue our post-mortem on the 2024 election. Does America have a Boy Crisis? Was $450k a day to put Kamala’s name on the Sphere worth it? How many votes di...d Queen Latifah swing? Are there sharks in the pool? Can Rebecca Solnit construct a metaphor to save her life? Will anyone learn anything from this boondoggle? We discuss.
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All I wanna be is a choco All I wanna be is a choco Greetings, everybody. It's Monday, November 11th, and this is your Chapo. Got me, Felix
and Amber joining us today on the show. I was going to start with a different story, but in one of the articles that I have open
because I want to talk about it, it's an article on the Hill, but then just in the sidebar
with other articles, I just see this headline.
Kevin Costner defends Liz Cheney.
This woman should never be threatened.
To which I say, thank you, Kevin.
This woman should never be threatened
Kevin Kofner is offering an impassioned defense of Liz Cheney saying the former GOP Congresswoman who bucked her party
With the fierce criticism of President-elect Trump should be applauded. I expect people in government to do the right thing
Public service is about public service. It's not about your career
It's not about your ego the former Yellowstone star said in a live town hall edition on Monday of the Michael
Smirconish program.
OK, that's that's the funniest detail that he is Kevin Costner's on the Michael Smirconish
show.
What were the threats?
Oh, this was this was when this was in Trump said in like the last week of the election
when Kamala was out there with Liz Cheney, he was like basically said something to the
effect of like all she wants to do is war, put a rifle in her hand.
And it's not so easy when you got nine guns pointed at you and people interpreted that as like you
know like a firing squad was going to execute her and I was like calm down
Trump has done some bad things too we don't need to get I'll go overboard here
and praising him but yeah no it's Kevin Costner he's he's defending Liz Cheney
from being executed by the state. Still a beast. Can't wait for the movie.
American Horizon, part three, coming soon.
But no, the story that I did want to begin with today is a story that got lost in the election shuffle.
But I think it's very important. I'd like to start out this show doing some monkey news.
Post-election, I'm just going to be stealing bits from other podcasts.
So this is your monkey news. This was from last week.
One monkey recovered safely. 42 others remain on the run from South Carolina lab.
At large? They're at large? 42 monkey. One of... Okay, this is from Columbia, South Carolina. This is the AP reporting.
One of 43 monkeys bred for medical research that escaped a compound in South Carolina
has been recovered unharmed, officials said Saturday. Many of
the others are still located a few yards from the property,
jumping back and forth over the facility's fence, police said
in a statement. The Reese's Macaacks made a break for it
Wednesday after an employee at the Alpha Genesis facility in
Yemasi didn't fully lock a door as she fed and checked them,
officials said. The monkeys on Friday were exploring the outer fence of the alphagenesis compound
and were cooing at the monkeys inside. The primates continued to interact with
their companions inside the facility on Saturday, which is a positive sign, the
police statement said. And I gotta say I was a little... First of all, okay, so
monkeys breaking out or something from a disease research laboratory. Never a
good story, but the fact that this lab
was called Alpha Genesis.
Yeah, that's dangerous.
That's the Umbrella Corporation.
Yeah.
That's like, this might be a PBP scam.
That's like what I would name my science lab.
Alpha Genesis?
So like beginning start?
That's fucking stupid. No, this is I
If you go in there like they're going to be guys wearing fashion coats over like fashion Nova clothes
That's not a real fucking science thing. I promise. Yeah, I'm glad they
Escaped I had a friend that did
they escaped. I had a friend that did, she's a neurologist and she did a bunch of, she was working on like schizophrenia drug testing and she worked on little
mice and she's like, no I'm really in favor of animal testing because it saves
lives and then someone goes, how do you give a mouse schizophrenia? And she goes
you know what I changed my mind that day
Fucking this isn't that useful
Well, I mean I guess the detail about this story that broke my heart is that after the 42 other monkeys escaped
They just wanted to hang out with the monkeys that were left in the lab
Pressing their little monkey tit up against the glass of the visiting window. Get a little banana with a file in it.
Yeah, they're institutionalized now.
All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't get into me.
They're like, you know that Fleece Johnson guy?
Wait, who?
You know, the famous, like, I like you, I want you, so we're gonna do this the easy way or the hard way?
The guy who, the booty warrior from the MSNBC lockup.
Back when MSNBC put good things on TV.
Not like Jen Psaki.
Yeah, no, if you're looking for a more obituary
for what happened this election,
it's that MSNBC changed their weekend programming
from nonstop shows about people in prison to Jen Psaki.
Yeah, yeah, but that was a pretty,
I would say during the first Obama term,
that was a pretty big clip.
For some reason, they let this guy out,
even though he's committed thousands of rapes
while in prison, but he immediately committed an armed robbery after.
And when they talked to him, he was like,
well, I was mad that they let me out.
And I think the fact that I was parodied on the boondocks
had something to do with it.
I mean, what do we think?
These 42 now masterless monkeys, sort of like Ronan wandering the the wilds of South Carolina?
I mean, like it's not clear in the story whether these monkeys have been infected with any kind of weapons grade virus or anything like that.
But well, I think Felix is right.
And this is fake science.
So if they want to do a scam, just let them hang out there and be like,
actually this is a wildlife refuge.
It's still tax-deductible.
No one will keep them in cages,
and you can still do your scam,
just do it without cruelty to animals.
Like, Alpha Genesis is so fucking,
that is like a company that Steven Seagal would work for,
in one of his newer movies.
I'm gonna tell you one motherfucking thing
about these monkeys.
Big man, Big shoulda locked the door when you feed him.
But yeah, Alpha Genesis Labs,
do you think that this could just be some guy
who wanted to have 40 monkeys just as a pet?
And then they're like, oh, if you're doing
laboratory research, you can have 42 monkeys in a warehouse.
If it was in Ohio, I would be 100% sure.
I'm about 98% with South Carolina.
This is just a guy who wanted monkeys.
And I get it.
I mean, that's the only way you can get a good Reese's Macaque
is if you're planning to cut its brain out of its head
after you kill it.
I mean, French Montana famously had like a pet monkey.
And this was in like 2012, you know,
when he was just like a moderate,
when people were still saying like,
can this guy say the N word?
We don't know.
Like he was not even that popular back then.
I think it depends on the state.
I know Ohio has the loosest, loosest exotic animal laws.
Ohio has the loosest, loosest exotic animal laws.
I doubt South Carolina heavily regulates their animal life. It's monkey brain facilities?
Or any monkey facility whatsoever.
Hey, any house of a monkey in it is a monkey facility.
But yeah, like those looking for, you know,
further election moratoriums, you know, just
like look to the monkeys.
The monkeys have escaped.
Bad things are soon to happen.
But I guess it's been it's been about a week now since the election and sort of the the
takes have sort of gelled.
We're seeing sort of a gelling of the takes and the sort of people looking to ascribe
reasons for this loss by Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. And there's a couple of
different things, but I'd like to begin now with just some reactions
from voters and this is my favorite item about people who voted for
Trump. And it says here, in Scranton on Wednesday, Matt Wolfson, a 45-year-old former construction worker,
looked around at poverty in the Rust Belt city
and thought the nation needed a change in leadership.
Wolfson said he didn't love the dictatorial aspect of Trump's personality,
but thought he could help keep the country out of wars
and maybe bring peace to some other conflicts, including Ukraine.
He's good and bad.
People say he's a dictator. I believe that. I consider him like Hitler, Wolfson said, but I voted for the man.
And this is reflected in a listener comment.
Oh yes.
A listener comment someone shared where he said like his dad is obsessed with the book
of Revelations.
Yes. He said, I talked to my father yesterday and he said that he had been reading the book
of Revelations and thought that there was a very serious possibility that Donald
Trump was the Antichrist, but he voted it for him anyway because he liked his
tax policy.
Hey, price of eggs, man.
Price of eggs actually means a lot.
Well, like revelation doesn't, there's nothing in there that's like, don't do
this stuff.
It's supposed to happen.
Exactly.
this stuff. I mean, it's supposed to happen.
Exactly.
It's got like a revelation is like, you know,
you have a revelation.
Oh, that girl was flirting with me.
Oh, the, oh, John Lovett is sending me messages
through John Save John, his one-off pod
on the Pod Save network.
Oh, I should try to, I should fly this airplane.
You know?
Revelations are a good thing,
and you're supposed to do them.
Yeah.
You work towards the revelation.
Yeah.
I mean, literally, I was like, whatever.
My family are evangelical.
They're like, hell yeah, bring it on.
I wanna get raptured.
Let's move on.
Speed it up.
Yeah, yeah. Speed it up. I'm sick of this show.
Price of eggs. Price of the Red Heifer.
Price of the Red Heifer going up.
Now, this is this is the article at The Hill that
I was looking at before I got distracted by Kevin Costner's
manly defense of Liz Cheney.
But here's something that the POD johns
have have been communicating.
Pod save America.
Biden's internal polling showed Trump winning
400 electoral votes.
That's not that, like 130 is like,
that's more than I've ever gotten.
That's true.
That's really, it's like, okay,
how many people live in California?
Like 40 million?
Like, yeah, give or take.
Okay, so that map didn't show margins.
What if every single person in California had voted for Biden on that map didn't show margins. What if every single person in California
had voted for Biden on that map?
That's like half his popular vote count from 2020.
There you go.
And after he won Rhode Island, that's where Family Guy is.
That accounts, if you count everyone who's ever,
like I'll even, you know, for fairness, I won't say everyone who's ever like I'll even you know I'll for fairness I'll I won't say everyone
who's ever watched Family Guy but like bought it on DVD that's what like 20
million people more probably 30 million people okay so we're almost there and
then did he win New York yeah he did we under these projections yeah I mean this
is to me, it's like
when people are like, oh, my God, like,
I bet I could beat Tony Snow in a
pickup game.
Like, Joe Biden is, you know, he's
closer to Donald Trump than you are to
him.
Says John Favreau, I hosted the
political podcast Pod Save America,
said during Friday's episode, the
president Biden's internal polling
showed that President Trump would win
400 electoral votes. Then we find out when the Biden campaign becomes a Harris campaign, America said during Friday's episode, the president Biden's internal polling showed that President Trump would win 400
electoral votes. Then we find out when the Biden campaign
becomes a Harris campaign that the Biden campaign's own
internal polling at the time when they were telling us he was
the strongest candidate showed that Donald Trump was going to
win 400 electoral votes, Favreau said in the on the
podcast and comments highlighted by MediaEight. And I guess like,
like I said, the narrative is beginning to gel.
But I am very much enjoying all of the,
you know, backstabbing and people
coming out now after they've lost,
they tell you all the things that they
knew were wrong, you know, from the
get go. And there have been a couple of
choice,
like sort of wrap ups of the Harris
campaign and particularly the one that
Trump is already scoring points off of
by offering to pay off their campaign debt is the fact that the Harris campaign, and particularly the one that Trump is already scoring points off of by offering to pay off their campaign debt, is the fact that the Harris campaign raised
a billion dollars and is somehow twenty million dollars in debt.
Tony West really did run the campaign like Uber.
Chief among the, like, just the sort of eyebrow raising items on the Harris campaign budget
was spending four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a day to have ads play on the Las
Vegas sphere. They just make the Las Vegas sphere into big Harris Walls ads.
Is there a face on it?
No, it's just their names.
Ah, damn it. I want it to be their face. I want it to be that like Mussolini thing in
the middle of the square, but it's her yeah, and then the other one was
Spending a hundred grand to build this set on which she was interviewed on there for the call her daddy
You know how many views her episode of call her daddy got how many I like I thought this was a major coup because every
Fucking idiot you know when this happened was like this is huge. She's net. Oh my god
This is she's exposing her to an audience
she wouldn't have been exposed to before.
Hassan showed me 800,000.
Brick.
Brick, like 800,000, like, there, I think like,
there are at least two Dan Quinn videos
that did better than that.
The one where he dumps Stevia in a a gym hot tub. That's a deep cut
The one where he like pushes the first one where he pushes his son down the stairs and then he's in his garage like the intro
Yeah, I also just think like that listenership. I would I would just this is guess I could be wrong, but maybe not very active voters.
Well, I mean, I would just say the way I analyze this is, you know, everyone's looking for, you know, how to how to prune their media diet, how to be a more savvy consumer of independent media.
And I would say like my answer here is that podcasts that would spend that much money or require you to spend that much money or no good.
Don't bother going on them. Yeah, the whole point of a podcast zero zero
Yeah, you're overhead. Yeah. Well, I mean like they the podcast didn't spend that money
Yeah, the Harris people like and if you've seen this set it just looks like every other bullshit podcast
That exists like it like they I won't put that on them.
There's currently like a sort of triple on taunt going on with
Barstool affiliated media after Zach Brian broke up with
Brianna Chicken Fry.
So I'm playing a neutral party here.
See I was Matt and I were having connections the other day
because for a while I thought it was Zach Brown,
not Zach Brian, and it was the, you know,
did the little bit of Chicken Fry song.
So for a while I thought the guy who sung
the Chicken Fry song was engaged
or dating someone called Brianna Chicken Fry.
Zach Brian's, Zach Brian's totally different.
Like he's, I think this is amazing what's happened
because he was like the most normal guy in the world
And he has like a lot of the songs are good and his me his songs are kind of like I love you
I fucking hate you. I'm sorry. I hope you have a good day
Like I like I sounds like I'm making fun of it. I'm not I'm not I think the songs are great
But he was he was like, you know, just some, a classic case of a guy who's like kind of a dope
and then the only language he can truly speak is music.
But then they made him famous
and he like becomes Harvey Weinstein like instantly.
Like not, no, he's not as bad as Harvey Weinstein,
but he was like a bad boyfriend and then tried to give
Brian a chicken fry, $12 million to like not tell people how bad of a boyfriend he was,
which it like they ruined him as a person so fast. Like the Zach Brian movie, his rise
to fame into him becoming like a Hollywood scumbag. That is like a 12 second montage.
But Dave Portnoy did write a diss track about it. Then she turned around, said shove it up your ass. She speaks like Vogue's Bonnie.
Hail like Dog Funny.
Go buy a toupee.
Put your little hush money.
That's gonna be a pretty bad knock on effective Trump, is that like, you know, I've previously identified that I've made the breakthrough medical discovery that schizophrenics are drawn to rapping.
And you.
For similar reasons.
This is like, I discovered this by all the people
who have like rapped at me.
But sort of a knock on effect of that,
of polarization and further institutional decay,
is you're gonna see people rap
who you never thought would rap.
And it's really gonna suck and it's already happening.
Well, like I said, there's like to return to like the narratives
sort of right election, dealing with the election.
Yeah. Well, as to the election, there's a couple of one, but, you know, there's like,
oh, OK, is it is it Democrats have waited too deep and they've drunk too deeply from the well of identity politics?
I think I kind of went away to some degree under Biden.
I think it was just I mean, like, I think like that was sort of a relief.
But you look at the numbers, they really didn't like her so much
and she's more of the party thing.
I don't know if wokeness factored in so much to this,
so much as people truly hate the Democrats so much
at this point that they're like,
yeah, I think the Antichrist might be better.
I really, this is gonna like an every four to eight years
thing while we play like federal hot potato.
Like is, liberals love like self-legislation.
All I've seen since the election is like, I'm bad, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have worn
a sparkly top, it was too weird for people in Pennsylvania.
I'm sorry.
Oh my God, I named my son Xander, I'm sorry.
Oh my God.
I'm so, oh my, my Prius was too aggressive.
I freaked you out.
I've seen actually like a lot more like,
I mean, I just see this from people in my chats
or whatever, but I've seen like a ton of,
there's a reason educated people vote Democrat.
Dumb fuckers stand his back.
Yeah, yeah.
That's sort of like,
I don't think they're as hysterical
as they were last time around,
but they're more smug and resentful.
Well, yeah, because it's like a 2004 style outcome.
But like, yeah, like,
of the people who are like reacting
like hysterically and like, I mean, at this point, it's just, this is just what you say
after Democrats lose an election or like win,
but not that well is you just say it's wokeism.
Even though like, yeah, they've completely abandoned that.
I mean, the only argument for that is that it's the residual effects of Kamala's 2019
campaign.
Right.
And like, I could see that.
I mean, it's hard to like, like, I think of it the same way as, you know, how Democrats
were running on kids in cages and now they're like, what are you talking about?
We love the entire Trump thing.
And when you flip on things like that, it makes it seem like all the accusations about you are true,
whether they're saying you're importing voters or whatever, it makes it seem like you got caught.
Yeah.
And you're apologizing.
I mean, yeah, I feel like it really calmed down under under Biden.
Yeah.
They were just like, we don't need to do this anymore.
We also figured out that, you know, people like infrastructure bills and on
shoring and kind of a weird guy.
And there was nothing that suggested that anything good he did.
She would upkeep shoes.
Her whole thing is like, I'm a fun giggle puss.
I had a friend who said who said like, yeah, voting for him is like a vote for fun. I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's not.
This is not his his peak era.
We're dealing with you too.
After the first albums, he's in decline mentally too.
We could have had like President Xanax MILF.
That would have been way more fun.
So we could have had like President Xanax milk. That would have been way more fun.
I mean, like, well, what is astounding is obviously
like they were always going to say, oh, it was Latin X.
No one has, I'm the only guy who's ever said Latin X
in like three years.
I'm the only guy saying it.
You know, anything except for the obvious, which is the president was 170 years old and
like visibly dying.
Yeah.
During all he said, politics should never be a literal battle fellow.
God forbid.
Does that not factor in at all?
Yeah.
But like 80 percent of Americans said he was too old and
infirm to be fucking president.
Well, and who they tagged in was
who the fuck is she?
Like, you know, like nobody
really likes her except,
well, I like her.
I've said this before, like I don't
want Joe Biden to be in charge of
anything, but I do want him to be my
fun neighbor
who throws barbecues and gives me two hard handshakes where
there's like a ten dollar in it.
He says, don't tell your mom.
And like, you know, I think drunk Kamala would be really
fun. But like, I don't I want her to be in charge less than a
non-senile Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Like even if Kamala didn't have like this stink
of Biden on her and like just anyone.
She had none of the good stuff either though.
None of the good stuff, none of the retail politics ability
but also like anyone connected with that administration,
I think an unsung part of this is that a lot of people
who broke for Biden in 2020 are like embarrassed because it's like, oh, we were we were told we were electing like a competent manager of of the world.
single-handedly swings elections, but you could just point to the state of the world right now and the fact that like they were plainly and blatantly lying
about like Joe Biden's like physical and mental firmness for years until they
fight until they finally could not hide it anymore.
And they had to like do this unprecedented thing
and switch him out.
And so like anyone associated with that
is probably rightfully like seen as someone
who like helped perpetuate that fucking lie.
Yeah, well, and I think if you look at like
what he was unable to do as he was campaigning
and then what Kamala
had no interest in doing.
Like Sean O'Brien wanted to speak at both fucking,
you know, like the DNC and the RNC,
but like he was drooling in his soup
and they couldn't like get it together.
And you know, that just meant that the only person really campaigning until the very last minute was the Republicans.
Yeah. And like, in sort of like a reverse of what happened in the summer,
it's not that Trump ran like the most insane campaign ever, but he did the basic things you would want to do if you wanted to win.
Like, he went to Hamtrak and like talked to the fucking mayor. He went to Dearborn and like openly, you know, addressed the big fucking elephant in the
room.
He did the basic retail politics things that someone who has really only contested against
a Republican like twice in her entire career and not really not in really a meaningful way at that.
And Kamala Harris, the lack of any retail politics impulse was very evident.
I think we're entering to the era of like the passive Trump voter, which like we
used to have way more passive Democrats and now they're checking out.
I don't think we have like the fervor around Trump
anymore, especially because like he kind of, you know, like
lost and that kind of destroyed the mythos or whatever.
Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I think there are more passive voters.
And I don't think they've bought into the whole thing.
They might even think he's the anti-crisis.
Well, they're better than the Dems.
Yeah, well, like he didn't, you know, first majority
for a Republican presidential candidate since 2004.
But if you like, look at the actual numbers, it's not like
it's about what he got last time.
It wasn't an explosion for Trump at all.
And like the people it it was like two thirds,
the, you know, participation in a lot of the rallies and stuff.
Not so much realignment, but de-alignment.
Exactly. Everything's falling apart.
Yeah, everything's just completely falling apart.
But like, just a point I'd like to make on like the identity politics
being being sort of fingered as the culprit here. And it's
like to the extent to which you know this show has been associated with being
critical of identity politics, at least speaking for me personally, it was more
just like a knock on the fact is that like identity politics was what was
being used by Democrats and liberals to attack a broadly popular economic agenda.
And like the people who are diagnosed now, we got to get rid of the wokeness.
We got to get rid of the identity politics.
It's like, OK, well, then what do you OK?
Like usually you don't have any other things.
We do.
You replace that with is class politics, which is like identity politics is what
they break in case of emergency when it looks like class politics is getting too much purchase.
That's what they do to Bernie.
Now it's like, OK, well, now if you get rid of identity politics,
so then like, well, who who fucks with you then?
What's our new?
I mean, I would say like, if you're not going to replace the identity
politics with, like I said, a broadly redistributive economic agenda,
OK, just stick with identity politics.
I got an idea. I got an idea. Hats.
That's the new rebrand.
That's damn.
We need a different hat.
Guys, we need left wing baseball hats.
No, the Democrat hat.
The Democrat hat should be like the,
you know, like the cab driver hat.
It's like from a long time ago.
Well, I almost think it's like a
tonsure now. Democrats should wear it. I almost think it's like a tonsure now.
Democrats should wear it.
Democrats should wear it to like a tone.
Yeah.
Oh, we're sorry.
Yeah.
No, I mean, yeah, I feel the exact same way, which is you guys wrote in Africa,
they call her sister Hillary.
You don't get to do this now.
Like, fuck you.
Yeah, yeah.
You really painted yourself.
You got that stink on you.
We've said on the show that like all politics now is just a reaction and counter reaction to 2020.
And I really think a lot of this like, oh my God, it was too woke.
We fucked it.
We put too much woke in the stew.
You know, that is like a humiliated kind of. too woke, we fucked that we put too much woke in the stew.
That is like a humiliated kind of flash of self-awareness
with people who were like, went along with everything in 2020 and were like, I salute gushers for
demanding the black experience.
And now they're embarrassed and they're like, well, we all of us did it.
What the you know, they made us do it.
Yeah. No, you you were 62 years old, Joe Scarborough.
And like, OK, another one of these like meta narratives is that
it's not the economy, it's not the inflation, it's not inflation,
it's not war, it's not any of these things. It's how people perceive these things. And
this is Michael Tomanski writing in The New Republic. I don't need to read it, but like
basically this is an argument about the right wing media. And what they're saying is that
voters are just like easily cajoled and like they get they get their messages from the
wrong place, which is really like a way of admitting that like
Okay, the voters are the ones that are stupid, but we're so dumb. We can't trick
Dollars yeah a billion fucking dollars you have like a pretty sizable chunk of Hollywood
like I'm so sick of this fucking argument from like from Democrats where it's like
Okay, you have been saying this for years either like find a way around it or quit
Yeah, if you can't lie to these benighted sheeple to get them to fucking pull the lever for you
Then like who's who's who's uninformed who has a perception problem?
Yeah, it's very like the problem is is that like Republicans are really good at
I don't share this view because it's very contemptuous.
They're very good at tricking the rubes.
Then trick the rubes.
Like, if that's really what you believe.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now, I got news for you.
None of the cups have a ball under it.
You have identity politics. It's a ball under it. They have identity politics.
It's just spaces under there.
No ball, no ball.
And then and like and then this is like down river from, I think, like the
largest meta narrative about this election, which is that it's the voters
fault and we need new voters.
They know. Yeah, they owe us.
And this is all the things we didn't do for them.
And this is the one that I want to read from because like this to me was like the perfect
Encapsulation of this meta narrative and it's Rebecca Solnit writing in the Guardian headline here our mistake
Was to think we lived in a better country than we do
Americans will be stuck cleaning up after magas destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves
What is what is this? cleaning up after MAGA's destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves.
What is this?
Pick up your damn socks.
What is this fucking CW show writing?
No, I'm sorry.
Did I trusted you?
Yeah, it's like, to which the American people would say like an animal house, like you fucked
up.
You trusted us.
Yeah.
And she says here, it begins, our mistake was to think we lived
in a better country than we do.
Our mistake was to see the joy,
the extraordinary balance between idealism and pragmatism,
the energy, the generosity, the coalition building
of the Kamala Harris campaign
and think that it must triumph over the politics
of lies and resentment.
Yeah, energy is what I think of
when I think of Biden and Harris.
Yeah, but the extraordinary balance between
idealism and pragmatism.
And he says one our mistake was to think that the racism
and misogyny were not as bad as they are, whether it applied
to someone who was willing to vote for a supremely who was
willing to vote for a supremely qualified black woman or who
was willing to vote for an adjudicated rapist.
Yeah, she she was appointed by the California Democratic Party.
She didn't even like find her own husband.
Like Noah's dad from The Sopranos was like, okay, put out a casting call for a Doug.
He says, willing to vote for an adjudicated rapist
and convicted criminal who admires Hitler.
Our mistake was to think we could row this boat
across the acid lake before the acid dissolved it.
You mean like people?
Well you got in the lake full of acid.
People are the acid, is that what it is?
Yeah.
Maybe they're sensing that you hate them.
Like, I mean at least someone who's lying to you is gonna suck your dick a little bit.
I like... It shouldn't shock me anymore, but in the wake of the past week,
the capacity of like every type of Democrat to fucking flatter themselves has been
Astounding we were just too good for a country of rotten evil Nazis and misogynists. Yeah. Yes, like Zach Bo Camp said I
Hope you guys like the liberal order because it's going away going away
And it's like yeah, look how great the world was for the best two fucking years. Yeah. And this, like, what's your greatest weakness?
I'm too trusting.
Yeah.
I can't help it if I'm pretty and popular.
And, okay, so she writes, we knew what the problems were and we wanted to fix them.
The principal problems that got us to this bleakest moment in American history are intertwined.
Is this really the bleakest moment in American history are intertwined. Is this really the bleakest moment in American history?
Yeah.
In American history, really?
It wasn't more bleak the first.
That's the other thing.
I mean, like, this country did fight a civil war.
It did happen before.
It did happen.
Like, they're shocked again.
I can't wrap my mind about it.
You had, like, eight years to wrap your mind about it.
Yeah.
And it was like, the same country that elected Donald Trump once.
You're like, we're shocked to find out this awful, evil country could vote for a man like Donald Trump.
They already did. They already did.
So, I mean, yeah, you're right, Amber.
You had all the years to prepare for an electorate that was willing to vote for Donald Trump.
And now you're just once again just being like, we're just too good for them.
We're just too good for them.
She says here, the principal problems that got us
to this bleakest moment in American history are intertwined.
They are the crisis of masculinity,
the failure of the mainstream news media,
and the rise of Silicon Valley.
And in a way, they are all the same problem.
What a coincidence that the three major problems
of this country are the only things you write about.
Like, wow, that's really good for you.
It's very Fukuyama.
I really, I wanted to kill myself when I realized that we're going to have like a good six months of like, you know,
what are we going to do about men articles?
Like all of them.
Like all the, we need a positive role model for men. It's so
We need daddies not like jobs or the ability to afford a house or anything they just need
dads
It's like the Obama line when he was like shitting on black men. It's like the problem is dad
like the Obama line when he was like shitting on black men. It's like the problem is dads.
I don't think that's the problem, dude.
Well, no, we need new and better dads.
We need left-wing.
Dad 2.0.
And by left-wing, I mean democratic dads
for the wayward youth of this country.
I saw someone today, I forget what article
was talking about this, but it described the boy crisis
that we have to deal with. The boy
crisis. I mean, usually that's a problem in UK politics, not in America. I guess we've
imported it across the across the pond. But yeah, you know, Felix, I'm with you. I am.
I mean, like, because out of all of the marginalized groups that we can blame this election on,
I mean, this is the one that I can speak to personally, because, you know, I was once
a young man in this country and I was I was once a young man in this country
and I was once perhaps an angry young man in this country who felt alienated from the
prospect of having a career or a girlfriend and you know, my advice to the
young men in this country or how do we deal with the boy crisis in this country?
And I'm not even kidding is get a job. Yeah, that's like that's the only useful advice I have
Well they need to make jobs,
and they're not gonna do that.
Yeah, hey, a little bit of meaning, even a shitty job.
So yeah.
As long as it's not mind numbingly evil.
I mean, yeah, like my advice to the individuals personally
is get a job, but like, one of the political ramifications
of that is give people a fucking job.
Yeah, talk about killing two birds with one stone or one windmill.
You could, yeah, you know, pay young men to like put windmills together.
Yeah, well, I got to say the the two good things about Biden that were actually
good was the infrastructure bill and should have been bigger.
Bernie would have made a big room. And like the
the labor policies. But with him gone, those two are fucking still like what do
you think? What do you think like Kamala is gonna be like we need to build
bridges? Like that's not gonna be... No, no, no. Not the coalitions. You need to build them to
connect like distances. I don't want like the I've said this before when historians talk about this time
We're gonna realize like the expectation creep that went from like yeah, sometimes strange just fly after
Just like what happened sometimes yeah, I mean like you know
Anything to avoid like looking the most obvious things, like dead in the face.
Like, why, you know, why would Americans feel alienated from, you know, just any, the political process at all?
Like, why was there a collapse and turnout?
Could it be that, like, you know, the fact that, like, a hospital stay, even with insureds, like, costs as much as a fucking car?
And there's just, they have totally given up on any any solution to that.
Literally anything but an economic program. They will do absolutely anything but an economic program. Like they need new role models. What you're essentially saying is that they need a dad
that isn't their actual dad.
And even if you're mad at your dad,
you're not listening to some fucking asshole talk shit.
You're not listening to Rebecca.
Don't say that about my dad.
Fucking Rebecca Solnus.
Who the fuck do you think you are?
Even when like, I mean, it's offering jobs in the media for young men.
Basically, in addition to become, you know, 10 million dissatisfied
young men's new father figure.
They put this in.
I remember the The New York Times ran like below the fold, I think.
But like front page, it was like Trump courts the bro vote.
The notoriously difficult to get like 23 to 35 year old men.
I don't know how do we get them.
It's like and of course they came to the same conclusions like, well, we need masculinity.
We need like Tim Waltz and like good dads.
And it's like we don't know how to get bro.
Like have.
OK.
What if you tried literally at all, even once?
Just what if you tried?
Like what if you tried to get the bro vote
and you could ask them what they want
because you were interviewing these Trump 23 year olds
and they said, I'm worried about inflation.
And they're like, we have no idea what is wrong.
They must need Tim Walz dad.
I was I was arguing with a Democrat about this and like of course like for some reason it's more
comforting for them to believe that the country has made an irreversible right wing shift and that
like everything is over.
We're never going to have elections again.
Like everything is fucked.
They lost by 30 points.
There's no point in politics.
But like I I
was arguing with him and I said, well, like
inflation kind of like ate up wage
growth for a lot of fucking people.
And their response was like, that didn't
happen.
Dude, so many progressives
were inflation denialists.
My friend like it's like being a flat earther for them.
My friend like showed me some,
in someone she knew from college, like their thing,
he was like, oh, so we're electing the rapist
because people care about the price of eggs.
I'm like, eggs are expensive, goddammit.
Have you bought eggs recently?
That used to be like a pretty
big, like when George W.
Bush or George H.W.
Bush,
how much could milk be?
Thirty seven dollars.
That was a big deal.
Oh, by the way, that guy worked for
Goldman Sachs.
Sorry, I forgot the punch line there.
You'll never you'll never believe how expensive quail eggs are these days.
Just going back to the boy crisis here.
Solnit writes, social media arose like a school of sharks in the information pool
and began to devour the economic base of the news industry.
A lot of mixed metaphors here.
A school of sharks in the information pool.
What base do sharks devour?
Like the root of a tree or like what?
Who are the sharks?
Okay, social media arose like a school of sharks
in the information pool and began to devour
the economic base of the news industry
to undermine the filtration systems.
There was a pool ball. We need that aquarium.
The boy crisis is that we don't have enough pool boys in the country
because they need to scoop out the sharks that are clogging
the information filter in the news pool.
This is also just another one of those.
My the problem with America is that my job is diminishing.
And I'm like a huge.
I think the decline of local news is a
really bad issue.
Polling kind of doesn't work because
who is who agrees to take a poll?
Nerds like
I think we needed to be
able to read local news.
And that's very hard to figure
out. Like if you don't
actually have that.
But it's not like Rebecca Solnit was reporting
on what was going on in Duluth.
In Youngstown, Ohio.
Yeah.
I just, I'm stuck on the, I guess this is a metaphor.
Like.
She just got an aquarium and she's really excited.
So a booyaboo, you sing with a fish name.
I hate it, don't you hate it when you like
leave your pool
unattended for like a few days
and a school of sharks arises in it
and then destroys the base around the filtration system?
Well it said the filtration system
that had limited the spread of hate, lies,
misinformation and disinformation.
Okay, so there's, you want,
there are two pipes
that lead into your pool.
One's the regular water pipe,
and one's the hate lies and disinformation pipe.
And you're gonna wanna build a base around the bad pipe,
but like don't, you know, even if you're not gonna be home,
just throw like a Roomba in your pool or something.
Just like keep it occupied because otherwise
the school of sharks will arise and take out the good bits.
So wait, but it's not just the filter.
It's the is is she also the chlorine?
Well, OK, it's just I'm glad you asked.
But to talk about it as an information pool is to
underestimate how much it has changed consciousness itself,
how addictive and how distorting it is, how it manipulates values, emotions and
beliefs. Young men seem particularly vulnerable to its offerings and many
dank corners of the internet recruit them into misogyny and white supremacy
via influencers and incel subcultures, into anti-semitism and conspiracy
theories, and more than that into becoming unmoored, destabilized, unwell
and isolated. It's the internet's...ored, destabilized, unwell, and isolated.
It's the Internet's... Look, the Internet makes everyone mentally ill, but again, you know what keeps you off the Internet? Getting a job.
Yeah, and like I mean like I said the point of like to my somewhat flip
diagnosis here to get a job.
I mean that in a literal sense because to me like getting a job is the only thing that like sort of...
Because you can't like retcon confidence if you have nothing to be confident in.
Yeah.
I think the only way that you can gain confidence is by being useful to others.
And, like, to demonstrate...
Having a role.
Meaningful work.
Yeah, like, demonstrating competence to others in a way that is, sort of, that gratifies
you, but also is seen and recognized in some way.
And, like, getting a job, getting some form of stable employment was the only thing that worked for me.
But the thing is, like, you can't just, you know, get a job.
As I said, like, that's the pull up your pants thing.
But they're talking about a broader political agenda.
It would be creating a lot of jobs, giving jobs to young people.
It's a huge alienating thing to like have like you to either to work an email job
Which is like again?
It has to be meaningful work, but like either to work in fucking grueling email job or like I don't know
24 hours a week at GameStop or Starbucks or something like how do you feel like your labor is in any way?
meaningful then which is a way for you to
like your labor is in any way meaningful then, which is a way for you to recognize your place in society. It's how you know you're a part of society. You're like, oh, I do a thing and
and that's how a thing gets done. Well, someone depends on me. Someone depends on me.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I just, I don't think it's possible to like give for everyone to have a job that like
see, like is immediately like, um, not justifiable, but like worthwhile.
Meaningful.
Yeah.
I just don't think that's like possible in America, unfortunately, but not right now.
Could be.
It could be, but like even the, even then it's like, you do need like cashiers and like
service workers and shit
But but if that job was less
grueling
What I'm saying is that like that that would be like way less demeaning if you were able to like build a life
From what you earn at that job. Yeah, if the inverse if like the infrastructure was in place for you to, you know, have places to go, have
things to look forward to, have things in your life, which working a job like that now,
you really, you know, you really can't get those things.
I think also the meaning you get from your job, even if it's like, you know, working
retail or whatever, depends a lot on your
how badly you're being squeezed for productivity.
Exactly. Yes. Yeah.
And it's also like how much money is left over at the end of the month.
So like, yeah, exactly.
You're like, well, it can't be that fucking meaningful if I can't get by.
Because like, you know, if a job is a sole debt and sole debt and drudgery,
but still it pays you enough money
so that you can like pay rent,
afford some groceries and have a little fun every weekend,
then like, then you're taking from your soul at the work,
but then you're giving back to it.
Also retail can be like fun
if you're essentially minding the store
and you have time to like gossip with your coworkers
and you're taking your sweet ass time
and you don't have to worry about not making it enough.
Like the right to be,
the jobs that aren't quote unquote meaningful,
one, you still know that you're keeping something running.
Even if it's like the way Starbucks is going.
Like even if it was like,
like you don't have to be like a fucking doctor or whatever.
Like you're like, I am a part of the way
something is running. And if you have to work like 60 hours doctor or whatever. Like you're like, I am a part of the way something is running.
And if you have to work like 60 hours a week to do that and you're not compensated for it,
you don't feel like you're actually useful.
Like you're like, oh, I am litter.
I'm a cog in a machine.
Yeah. Yeah.
Would you pay someone like literally like for them to pay
their rent and like afford the basic things that all human
beings are entitled to, they would have to go into debt
to do that.
How are they going to feel anything but worthless?
Yeah.
Also, I want, so it's to call it a pool is.
Yeah, let's go back to the pool.
She, well, she, after that whole pool thing, she's like, actually, it's way bigger than
a pool.
It's okay, why were we in the pool?
To get back to the infinity pool thing and the filtration systems and the spread of hate
lies, there are two different pipes, misinformation and disinformation.
Buddy, you never want to connect either of those pipes to your pool.
You just want water.
And if you get on the bench, you pure a hot tub.
Do not stay in there too long.
I know flesh eating bacteria for the misinformation pool.
But like, but again, like it's just this self-congratulation on how how good you
are, but never turn the mirror around to just be like, okay Why don't we talk about all of the lies hate and missing this misinformation and disinformation?
Of an outlet like the Guardian of the New York Times which was like, you know in a practical sense
Many of their columnists and news items are like Joe Biden's perfectly mentally fit to be president
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with Joe Biden. Yeah.
Kamala Harris is running a perfect campaign.
She's competent.
Israel is simply defending themselves.
She's experienced.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
She might be competent.
How would I know?
I'll read this next paragraph here.
It says, the MAGA right with its indifference to the normal issues of good governance and
its preoccupation with clickbait distractions is an online monster and it has created a
and succeeded in creating a more angry aggressive form of masculinity
One more convinced that debasing and dominating women is essential to its identity
Whether in porn or in Trump's fantasizing aloud that Liz Cheney should face a firing squad and Harris face Mike
People keep telling me this shit and they keep saying like America's getting worse about like fucking you know
Racism and sexism.
You cannot tell me that a Democrat steel worker in 1976 is more sexist than like
some like dork who's in like $40,000 of fucking college debt.
Like you just can't. like dork who's in like $40,000 of fucking college debt.
Like you just can't.
Now maybe they were less angry, but that's different.
That's a different thing.
Yeah, it's like, it's as ridiculous as people who think
like it's just like an unending slow but steady drip
of like one year is always better than the next.
It's as ridiculous to think this is like
The war like the social nadir of America people were alive during Jim Crow are still alive now
Yeah, you cannot tell me it's like equivocally getting like fucking like worse
Maybe it's more like up down up
They've created a new kind of
masculinity.
They're getting a new, even more
aggressive and angry form of
masculinity. It's called it's
called masculinity, too.
Yeah, like
I definitely think like things are
getting dumber, like people
are dumber than ever.
But that's because of phones and
like that a competent of phones and like that
a competent political party would like
figure a way around that.
They would be like free
propeller hats and lollipops.
We vote.
I don't like whatever.
But we keep coming back to hats.
Yeah, but I think we've I think we've cracked the case here.
Yeah, but like, yeah, no, just I mean, again, it is more comforting for them to think like,
yeah, this is now officially they totally Nazi country now.
It's totally like completely lost.
Like, just forget about it.
Every man you see is like a potential SBU suspect.
I just want to finish this paragraph.
She says the endless memes of Trump as Rambo and rescuers and Jesus show how much the lost
boys and MAGA women want an authoritarian leader.
And the fact that they can make one out of the physically and mentally pathetic Trump
is a testimony to the power of tech fuel.
Oh yeah, because libs never do embarrassing memes.
Or like, yeah, how could they say this infirm man
is like a big tough hero?
Anyway, Joe Biden is saving this whole of America.
We're gonna give him like glowing eyes.
The endless memes of Trump as Rambo,
I don't think I've seen a single meme with Trump as Rambo.
I've seen some strongman ones.
Yeah, I think maybe, I think because Rebecca Sullivan
doesn't understand masculinity
and has probably never even seen First Blood
or Rambo First Blood Part Two,
or Rambo Three or Rambo Last Stand.
They drew first blood, not me.
She hasn't seen any of those things,
so she probably just sees Trump with muscles
holding a gun and assumes it's Rambo.
She doesn't even know about the brave Mujer Dean.
Yeah.
But, yeah, no, and it says here,
of course Silicon Valley media and the crisis in masculinity
converging Elon Musk who used his ownership of the Bob monstrous blah blah blah.
And it just goes on like that.
It's just touching on all the shit that she writes about.
Yeah, like, how are they still writing this fucking article?
I swear to God, there were like nine books that came out during the Trump presidency
that were called like
dark computer
The scary internet
Evil poke you Facebook and the
Nazification of it like all these books were like some fucking idiot was like I that's right
I spent three months going on 4chan.
The darkest place of the dark web.
I created a burner account to talk to weirdos online.
Yeah, and it was just like inside the depths
of the evil computer that's making America crazy.
I think also they're like the CIA with pedophiles,
they go in there just a problem
Well, I mean I spoke about this on Thursday show but like you know like I FBI with pedophiles
Yeah, I was just talking domestically
but
but you know, like I think
Inherent in the in this thing about like, yeah, the dark internet
and dark masculinity is this idea that like anger of any kind is evil.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And unjustified.
Yeah, anger at our democracy or our political system is inherently like fascistic and evil
and racist.
And it's just like, once again, like, I mean I mean look, I mean you can you can point at the
You know some of the nasty stuff. Yeah, I will say on the internet and it's certainly like, you know
I'm not gonna say it's not racist or disturbing to read but like I think there is a
conscious conflation of like racist bile on the internet and like the broader feeling of
anger at the politicians and our form of government in this
country because it because I'm sorry, like it was the
Democrats. It was the nice people party that has been doing
unspeakable evil for the last four fucking years.
Where does that factor in all of this?
Yeah.
Where does giving where does like giving Kurt Blanch to the
most right-wing
like the genocidal
Country of fucking a mafia state of rapists. Where does that factor in? No, I
Think it's because they're all suddenly mean for no reason whatsoever. It just happened. It's like a disease
It's an idiopathic disease, it's like cancer,
no one knows, it just happens sometimes.
And like anger gets displaced.
It just does, it's just like fucking,
especially with like young people
because they're stupid and don't know anything yet.
Just give them jobs, just fucking give them jobs.
I don't even need them to be self-reflective.
Someone was talking to me about like,
oh, we need to look at this meme,
they should commit seppuku.
And I'm like, you know,
they're not capable of thinking,
maybe it's me.
Like, I don't care if they never get that no one likes them.
I just want them to, even if it's cynical, be like,
oh, the dumb-dums will like us if we give them jobs.
Yeah, I just like, in all of these like,
tortured fucking like, these screeds
that we have been reading endlessly since 2016
about the, how just the cultural degeneration of America
and like, the rage and nastiness of anything of everything.
How does it never factor in that like, you know, when you say cause the deaths of two million people in a war and it's just swept under the rug?
Does that not devalue human life?
That is like factor into not factor into the calculation?
When you kill a cleric who one time met a guy who met a guy who met a guy who knew the
number three in Al-Qaeda and all of his kids die and you're like, well, you know, it's
the company you keep. Does that not fucking devalue human life well and also like a lot of a lot of these angry young men are
Arpist about Israel and at what point does that not?
Does that cease to be a compassion in and of itself like you're writing that off as pure anger?
Right. Yeah, it's a compassionate anger. Yeah. So like how come they don't get credit for that?
Yeah and like and for all the talk about like,
oh like the rise in hatred or anti-Semitism,
I've seen some of the most vile racist propaganda
I've ever seen in my life,
published in the pages of liberal newspapers and magazines.
But it's all about Palestinians.
And as long as you're talking about like wokeness and
identity politics some of the like most serious
Crackdowns and in positions of speech codes on university campuses. I've happened this year, but it was all
Directed at pro-palestinian protests. You can't even say the word Palestine on most campuses anymore without getting expelled Yeah
That is the one group of people where you're stood
They're so allowed to say that we feel unsafe and you need old space for us that somehow never counts as fucking identity politics
If I don't think I've seen this single like liberal
Like official Democratic Party like media organ even mention Israel in any of this
I like what no one thinks that it like single handedly lost the
election for Biden. But to act like it didn't have an effect and
that it is no salience for American voters is fucking
insane.
If you think that there's no connection between the fact that
Kamala got a lower percentage of the youth vote than any other
Democrat by a lot by a lot than any of the past Democratic
elections have nothing to do with their policy towards Gaza.
That's just I'm sorry. You're lying. People are lying to you or it's cope. There's no way there's no fucking way around it.
They've been doing this fucking
Michelle obamas. They're still beating this drum. It's like by the way, you are if you don't vote for kamala
You are holding all the women in your life hostage to your anger
Gee, I wonder why they don't like you. You've spent the past, since the Hillary campaign, telling people, telling young men specifically,
that they are horrible racists and are absolute misogynists if they don't vote for Hillary
fucking Clinton.
And then every time you do it, you're like, look how dangerous they are.
Look how hateful they are.
And one, people are going to resent that.
Two, also, if you accuse someone of something over and over and over again,
hey, if you're going to do the time, you might as well do the crime.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Yeah, at some point, it's like, okay, you think I'm a fucking angry piece of shit. I'll show you an angry piece of shit
Yeah, it's the same
It's the same thing with Israel stuff because like if they're just gonna call you anti-semitic
Yeah at some point. It's like okay. I'll give you something to fucking cry about
Absolutely and like and again like it it just continues to be shocking to me because like this is after they lost this fucking election,
I still see some of these cretins like crawling on fucking all fours
to kiss the ass of Israel.
Like, for instance, in the soccer hooliganism riot that happened
in Amsterdam over the weekend, Joe Biden issued a statement
condemning the anti-Semitic attacks in Amsterdam.
So like now, just like how America is permanently lost,
right wing, hell hole, like no one good will ever win.
The Netherlands is a whole anti-Semitic country.
Yeah.
And like thank God we found out now.
How do you think they feel about Muslims?
Like for Christ's sake.
The corollary there is this idea that like oh, yeah
Because of because of Elon Musk and young men America is now like irrevocably right-wing or whatever
But also like when you look at Israel just know it's all Netanyahu's fault. It's not it's not the country or the entire government
Yeah, yeah, but like there's plenty of good people there
But like I mean, did you see the thing about how Sky News?
There's plenty of good people there. But like, I mean, did you see the thing about how Sky News
published a news account of the riots in Amsterdam
that described factually the racist hooliganism
that incited this, I'm sorry,
like a bunch of drunk Israeli soccer fans
getting their ass kicked by Dutch Moroccans.
By the way, I got to point this out.
The way, you guys know the way that the New York Times framed this?
Oh, please.
Chaos, provocations and violence, how attacks on Israeli soccer fans unfolded.
This is the slog underneath.
Anti-Semitic assaults on visiting Israeli soccer fans and the incendiary chance
and attacks by some Israelis
Here's what and attacks by some Israelis just putting that into a final
version of that Amber that described anti-semitic attacks and then was described the behavior of the Maccabee Tel Aviv fans as like
Anti-arab slogans. So one is an anti-semitic
Unacceptable bigotry and like systemized
One is a form of unacceptable bigotry and like systemized ideological hatred of another race. The other is just simply some anti-Arab slogans were shouted.
Also, I'm sorry, they're soccer fans. They do that for no reason anyway.
And not only that, but Maccabee told me you've lost five nothing.
Yeah.
Which is like losing a basketball game by triple digits.
They also, the Maccabee Ultras had massage agents in tow and still fucking lost.
Really interesting way to be like that.
Just like that's not what I would have led with.
But OK. And it's also funny that Israelis love to tell you how they're not European.
But then their football club loses a match and they engage in racist hooliganism in the street.
Seems like a pretty old tradition
It seems like pretty European culture to me. Yeah
I saw the sky news like the first guy news report that happened before they got yelled at and like
That was the only major news
counting of it I've seen so far where
first it like very prominently discussed how the first thing the Israeli Ultras did was just
randomly assault a fucking Moroccan cab driver.
Yeah.
And then a lot of the response was just based on how cab drivers talked to each other and were like, you know,
probably that guy probably went, hey, these are the assholes that beat the shit out of me for no reason.
Yeah. And also again, I don't know,
all these guys getting into fights over fucking
someone spilling a beer on somebody
that are this size anyway.
It was like the Nazi punching debates.
I'm like, people get punched for fucking
liking the wrong team,
like for being a non-Philadelphia sports fan.
Like, I don't know like one, how you could characterize this as the Israelis not starting it.
But two, why it's a big deal if they get their asses kicked.
I'm sorry, you went to a soccer game.
Yeah. And okay, like, I did a little interview at the one Maccabee Tel Aviv who said,
the Arabs spanked my bottom and now my bottom is sore. The one Maccabee Tel Aviv fan who said,
the Arab spanked my bottom and now my bottom is sore.
A beep at my bottom and now my bottom is big.
This is just like Anne Frank.
And I gotta say, my favorite was the guy that they just dumped in the canal.
And he was like, they were like, well leave if you say free Palestine.
And he was like, free Palestine?
And again, the fact that the entire,
once again, the entire news media treated this like
these assholes starting a fight,
getting their fucking asses kicked by,
I know thanks to you Felix,
Dutch Moroccans can fight.
Yeah, one of my favorite kickboxers of all time.
Well they have to, they're in the Netherlands.
One of my favorite kickboxers of all time,
Badr Hari.
Just knock out King.
I wish he was there.
But no, like we're you know,
they they lose an election and they're still
having to denounce some soccer fans
getting their ass kicked in fucking Holland.
Like the US government has to speak on this.
The US, really?
Yeah, like you're still not in my business.
You're still you're still kissing the ass of this fucking rotten country that like A.
cost you the election. Yeah. B. was doing everything in their power to elect your opponent.
This is the first time the U.S. has cared about soccer. Yeah. Like ever.
And then like to see all the comments about like oh like I hope they're happy when when
Gaza gets raised and colonized by the Israelis and it's just sort of like they were doing that in front of everyone's face
like a week ago. Absolutely nothing has changed here. And I'm sure like, look, to the extent
that like the Trump administration will be even more like frictionless for the like ongoing,
you know, colonization of the Gaza Strip, then like fine. But like, what would have
been nice if if Joe Biden disagreed
with the ethnic cleansing of Gaza,
because originally his message was that like
there will be no ceding of territory.
This is just a limited military operation.
Well then it's incumbent on him to speak out against it,
which he certainly hasn't done.
And what they have done is in the waning days
of this election, give Israel a 30 day deadline
to start complying with international human rights.
And then will the 30 day deadline was up several days after the election.
So I'm hoping for a follow up on that.
Sure, that'll be enforced.
Yeah.
Once again, I just like pass the buck too, because they could say we tried.
He's the one fucking I can't like, I do not want to I cannot bear to hear a single bar
about how fucking
Genocidal racist and evil the Trump administration will be after a year of this shit from the Democrats
Yeah, I just like I can't do it can't do it not gonna have it not gonna have it
I guess the last thing I'll talk about like I'm wondering about my favorite of the post-election
Reactions came courtesy of Joy Reid on MSNBC
post-election reactions came courtesy of Joy Reid on MSNBC.
And when I heard a transcript of this, I literally thought someone was making it up.
I had to watch the clip for myself.
You had to check the fake news.
I thought it was fake news.
But she was like, talking about how,
you can't blame this on Kamala,
she ran a brilliant, perfect campaign.
I mean, this really was an historic,
flawlessly run campaign.
She had, Queen Latifah never endorses anyone.
Her evidence for that was literally Queen Latifah endorsed her this time and Queen Latifah never endorses anyone.
And then she went on to say of course she had the Swifties on her side too.
And by the way, the Swifties as a political force is pretty hilarious because I guarantee you half of them voted for Donald Trump.
We're talking about white women here. We're talking about white women here.
We're talking about white women here.
So a good chunk of them were probably Trump supporters.
But I just say like her plaintiff sort of whale Queen Latifah endorser and Queen Latifah
she never usually she never endorses anyone.
Yeah, they're really tapped into the American people.
I mean, I knew the Equalizer was a popular show.
I didn't know how popular.
How do you think the Swifties would do as soccer hooligans?
It would be like chimps.
Like they would like attack like your eyes and like.
Yeah, there'd be a lot of hair pulling.
Yeah.
All right.
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