Chapo Trap House - 905 - Roko’s Modern Life feat. Brace Belden (2/3/25)

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Beautiful Brace Belden joins us to look at Trump’s tariff’s, possible annexation of Canada, halt on federal funding, and other breaking admin news. We also discuss New York Mag’s party report fr...om the NYC MAGA scene, and Brace briefs us on what we should know about the murderous “Zizian” rationalists, and how they fit in among all the other people who’ve broken their brains online. TrueAnon’s in-depth coverage of the Zizians here: https://pod.link/1474001390/episode/a778bfc3221464a5eff8d657bc89eb8a

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All I wanna do is hit the drum. Hello friends, it's Sunday, February 2nd, 2025. And this is your choppo. Come through a day early today but we're joined by beautiful brace Belden, Felix and I today. And I just like to start today, you know, I woke up this morning in like the newsfeed, it was just all stuff about Luca Donchett's the Luca trade to LA, and then the impending collapse of the America KKK and empire. Thanks to comrade Trump, who is, you know, fulfilling his promises to immediately start attacking the foundations of the AmeriKKK and Empire, thanks to comrade Trump, who is, you know, fulfilling his promises to immediately start attacking the foundations of the global imperialist free trade regime
Starting point is 00:01:12 and CIA cut out USAID. It's cracker control. AmeriKKK kill, kill AmeriKKK. I guess I'll just start there. I wish I knew something about tariffs or the economy. But what do we think about the comrade Trump's program of hyper Argentinian vacation for the American economy? Well, I've been interested watching like the pro Trump people talk about this. I mean, not like not Elon, they're posting like you're the man now dog.
Starting point is 00:01:45 They're posting like, you're the man now dog, but there's a watermark on it that's like, from at videos of moms dying. Like the Silicon Valley guys I've been paying attention to, because a lot of this, it's gotten swept up by the Canada and Mexico tariffs, but his first thing he did that probably made all the Jamie Diamond type guys think, oh my God, we're going to have to actually kill him this time, uh, was, uh, imposing tariffs on chips from Taiwan. I've been interested in seeing all these guys rationalize that since then that Sean McGuire guy who he looks like, um, a heavily airbrushed Dennis Leary.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He's one of those VC guys who's always wearing a very cool leather jacket. He said, well, like, you know, these are probably just going to be temporary, but they're like a really good opportunity for us to bolster, you know, build up our industry in the way that protectionist countries do, specifically with mining and manufacturing. And if I know anything about manufacturing, it's that you can transition your manufacturing sector to being half your economy in three weeks with no central planning and while you are just destroying the government's ability to pay for anything.
Starting point is 00:03:02 From what I read, Trump's logic behind it was just like. About the, the, the Taiwan stuff was like, if we make it so expensive to build them in Taiwan and ship them here, then they'll just build them here, which is kind of peerless, right? I mean, it might work. Uh, my, my thing is like, I don't really get what tariffs are. I'm going to be completely, I think I do understand them. And then I'm like, surely I'm too stupid to understand this.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Like there has to be some other, like second or third order effect that I'm not getting to like fully get the picture here. But I do kind of like, Canada, I gotta tell you, I am fucking, whatever we're gonna do to them, we're gonna do to them. And it's time. Like there have been tensions, I think among the Canadian and American people
Starting point is 00:03:48 that have been rising for many years. And if we're going to, if we're going to take out half their economy, I don't know what their economy is, frankly, my view on the terrace towards everybody is I'm just like, let's see what happens. You know what I mean? I already have all the podcast equipment I need, think and so I'm like well what you know How is it gonna affect me? I don't eat. It's I'm it's I'm mostly so on the diet these days and that's made in America So I'm like, what are they gonna do?
Starting point is 00:04:13 I mean, I guess I guess the the goal here is the annexation of Canada and Canada is the 51st state But my question about that is Wouldn't that just be importing 20 to 30 million new Democrat rat rat party voters? I mean, like Canadians are not they're not patriotic. I mean, they always like Canadians always say, like, Oh, our politics are like getting infected by America. And like, we, we basically have MAGA guys there. But when I look at Canadian politics, like the most based guy in Canada, we'll be making a speech where he's like, and, and you know what? I think that I shouldn't have to celebrate Ramadan, but I will.
Starting point is 00:04:54 That's like the most that's like the, not even the Geert Wilders of Canada. That's like the Oswald Mosley. It's a guy. It's a guy who's like, um, I don't, I think that we should sing our anthem at hockey games. I mean, my thing is like, what do we do about the Quebec, Quebec, once we take Canada? Because like, I gotta be honest, they have been infinitely more tolerant of whatever is going on with that. Then I think any government would ever in any other period in history would do. Cause it's like, okay, you are mostly Catholic and want to speak French. I think any government would ever in any other period in history would do.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Cause it's like, okay, you are mostly Catholic and want to speak French. And now every single sign in Canada has to be like half French. I don't know every single side. I'm just like, and they treat them so, you know, the guy, one of the, uh, one of like the main proponents of Quebecois nationalism, like what's his fucking book? He has some book with a rude racial slur in the title. Oh, where the classic political move of calling yourself the N-word in a political argument.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah. I love that move. Yeah, the white N-words of America. The precocious autobiography of a Quebec terrorist. white N words of America, the precocious autobiography of a Quebec terrorist. And it's like, yeah, I just am like, I'm fascinated to see what that kind of culture clash is because we already have those guys. We have Cajuns.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Like we have our own like weird Florida stuff, or not Florida stuff, excuse me, Louisiana stuff, and they're fine there. They're not like everybody else has got to do like a little bit of what we do. The Quebec wall have been, have had it too good for too long. I'm not even saying that they can keep, keep having it good, but I'm like, if we take over Canada, we have to deal with that now. And I don't think that that America can handle that.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I mean, I, I used to kind of think that until we went to Montreal. And that, like, it's the most beautiful city in North America. Yeah, it's incredible. It's like, clearly, I don't think it's working for the rest of Canada because Toronto is, Toronto is like if the Sears department chain was a city. It's a great a dump.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Really, just really awful. I was, the moment I got into Toronto, they gave me one of those like sort of glossy, cheaply printed coupon books. They were, where I opened it up and it was like, you know, buy a house for $35 American. And I just, I threw it on the ground. But in my, like Montreal, gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I feel like whatever the fuck they're doing, I really don't get it because they're not speaking actual French. It's some weird mutant form of it. George St. Pierre, maybe the greatest MMA fighter of all time. The last MMA fighter who isn't openly, um, praising Hitler and a rapist. Montreal is beautiful. I just, I, I think it works. I'm all for it. I gotta say I'm harsh on them for their separatism, but I gotta tell you, I've been to a lot of Canada and Montreal is really, that is a first-class city.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I can't really say my view on the rest of Canada is if we integrated into America, it would, it would be, if we just made it kept at one state, it would kind of be one of our shittier states. If we split it up, we'd have like four of our shittier states and then like BC and Quebec would be like, all right, states. I think Montreal should be maintained as sort of like, like Hong Kong, like a special economic zone where you can speak French and be in a nice city.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And then everything else of it just, you know, I don't know, tar sands, cold. But so yeah, Canada and Mexico, like two of our biggest trading partners, you know, like trade war. I mean, like I said, I wish I knew more about economics. We'll see how this I mean, the thing I've noticed is that like during the campaign, the argument was Americans will only reap the benefits of these tariffs and prices will not like you know, the the tariffs will not be passed on to the consumers will actually be paying less for less for things at the grocery store or elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And I have noticed that in the first week or so the argument has subtly shifted to Yes, Americans will suffer, but it'll be good for us. It'll it like it's gonna build character I mean, it's a hard hard thing to argue against because I guess if I was taking power I'd probably be forced to say a very similar thing But yeah, I it has been so funny to see them like really change tack very quickly. I think it's because kind of nobody really knows exactly what's going to happen until it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And I think like a lot of Trump stuff, there's like oftentimes, I think in the first term, especially you hear like a lot of like catastrophizing and like kind of nothing would really happen. And I am generally like a nothing nothing's gonna happen kind of guy in this case. I'm like something might happen But I don't know I mean it's funny to hear like Sean McGuire talk about that kind of shit Sean McGuire who has somehow become like a national political Figure if you work at Sequoia capital in any kind of leadership or especially partner position capital in any kind of leadership or especially partner position. You guys, didn't they give Sam Bankman freed like all this money? Cause they saw him playing league of legends a bunch.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like, you were stupid. You were dumber than a regular fucking person. If a regular, if you got any asshole off the street and showed them that poor scene freak and was like, look how good at video games he is. He's also fucking good at money. They would be like, he seems like he's, you know, well, he's like simple. Uh, and they would, they wouldn't give him millions of dollars. Sean McGuire and his friends are like, that's a fucking great idea. If that, if I had done something that spectacularly and publicly stupid,
Starting point is 00:10:40 I would kill myself. These people have no honor. Well, yeah, I mean, that is sort of the story of all the all the guys who like became Mac guys in, you know, 2023. The all of that the common thread with all of them is that they did something incredibly embarrassing when they were like regular lives. I've talked I've said this a lot that all of modern politics right now is a reaction and counter reaction
Starting point is 00:11:06 to 2020. Part of what that means is that I would say like half of the new prominent, you know, based conservatives are guys who as recently as 2020, you know, they ran some like bullshit tech firm and they were like, um, today was Snapchat is honoring the contributions of black Americans because they were afraid that DRA would yell at them. And then, you know, years later, they're like, we were living under tyranny. And it's like, you didn't have to do that. You didn't have to give money to Sam Bankman Fried and like talk about how, how great effect of altruism is. You just did that. And now you're embarrassed and you, you, you're, you're becoming based at 60.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I mean, there's, there's really nothing more destructive than the wrath of a former he, him. I mean, these guys are really, it's great. I mean, the Zuckerberg thing in particular was very difficult to watch. He looks, let me ask you this. Cause you take a lot of HDH. Zuckaburg, do you think this is because of, do you think he's juicing in some way
Starting point is 00:12:11 and that's changed his brain? Or do you think he's servile, kind of like a subspecies of man that is more like in personality or spiritually, like a worm-like, where he's sort of just cozying up to the present sort of regime. He sees which way the winds are blowing. If Zuckerberg is doing HDH, he's doing a very tasteful amount,
Starting point is 00:12:28 which I would commend him on. I've actually out of all these guys, I am the biggest fan of one Dr. Dick Zuckerberg. Like, I loved when he was like he sunk like something like 200 billion dollars into Habbo Hotel for Facebook. Yeah. And incinerated like $1.5 trillion and they were like, stop doing this, we'll kill you.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And he's like, no, I think Facebook's better than ever. He was gonna fight Elon and Elon was like, I'm a trained street fighter. I don't know what I'll do, I'll just black out and kill him. Never did it. But this new thing where he's like going on Rogan and being like, I've all like I actually knew griper when I was out.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Is it's very lame. You can tell. You can tell what Zuckerberg, the exact moment we stopped referring to clothes as clothing and started calling them fits. And it's horrible. Oh, my God. The 30 pound fits. And it's a horrible thing. 30 pound t-shirts. He's fucking wearing the chip. My view on that is I think they ran out of like signature looks for guys.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And like his, his whatever, like person, his like cruel, angular gay guy that he probably pays was like a flock of similar, but smaller ones kind of around him was probably like, we're going to go back to basics, just the t-shirt because you look incredible. Your body's incredible. So it's just the t-shirt. You know, there's a new type of men's fashion that you see, especially in these like recent converts conservatism. It's, um, they're getting the swag of a white Latino. Yeah, that's what I think happened. I don't think it's HGH.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I think he went to Turkey to get the white Latino surgery. It's the surgery that allows you to wear really tight jeans. Yeah. You walk in there and you're like, give me the white Latino. And they're like, what does that mean? And you're like, fucking Google it. What do you think? Look it up.
Starting point is 00:14:24 He does the hair. The hair is very, he needs fucking Google it figure. What do you think? Look it up? He does the hair the hair is very he needs to dye it black I'm I think a lot of people are betting on a divorce coming up But I think that I don't I don't think that's in the cards I think that he's I I'm I'm not picking that up and I can usually smell that far from from far off I think chance sticking by him with Bill Gates It was obvious he was getting a divorce because he like did that interview where he's like, oh, I don't know. We should like let Trump back on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And you knew like, you knew that's because like his liberal wife was like, I'm, you know, I'm going to take half your money and I'm going to do what fucking Steve Jobs is widow did and give $7 billion to the Wim Exx and puppetry foundation. I'm going to pay for articles for the next 300 years. With Zuckerberg, I get the sense that they're like Usha and JD, where it's just like they're riding together for whatever disgusting thing they're doing at any given moment. You brought up sort of like the new frontiers in fashion among right wing guys and dolls.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But I mean I think that's a good segue into the the big the big New York magazine article about the sort of young Republican gala in New York City. And you know, like there's, you know, there's a white Latino strain of it, too. But I think a lot of this article is basically kind of people who wish they lived in the great Gatsby, not the novel, the Basile Raman movie. And, you know, like, and I think you're like, you know, there's a little bit this story got a lot of ink, but I'm just going to go into it here. This is the cruel kids table by Brock Collier for the Intelligencer. I'm going to read here, it says the party is at Butterworth's, a dimly lit, a new dimly lit bistro that became the hotspot for the right and part of because one of its investors is Raheem Qassam, once the editor-in-chief of the UK edition of Breitbart.
Starting point is 00:16:30 On the menu are themed cocktails with names like American Carnage and the Second Term. In the middle of the room is, in a hip hugging emerald ball gown and a hefty string of pearls, is Tanya Praseibik, the wife of Jack Praseibik, a far right activist and one time Pizzagate pusher. She has just arrived from one of the president's three official inaugural balls and is telling me about how splendid her night has been. She even met Mike Tyson and Conor McGregor. She's surprised, she admits, that despite the horrible traffic, the below freezing weather
Starting point is 00:16:58 and the general pandemonium, it's been a no drama weekend. I haven't heard anyone complain, she says, almost shrieking with glee. It's such a positive vibe. Well, like, so what do we what do we make of the new like, sort of right wing party scene reporting? You know, it's like, imagine being at a party with Mike Tyson and Conor McGregor. It's such a positive vibe is how I would feel about that. Yeah, I bet. Yeah, absolutely. Have it like, they're always been like been sort of like tacky young finance guys on an executive track and like you know, Zara wearing girls who go to these things.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It doesn't seem like a new phenomenon is what I'm saying. It seems like this thing where people brag about having a social engagement is very weird. I, everyone does it now. It reminds me exactly of the David Shore article where he's like, I actually have sex. Those pictures, man, of, of Sean McKelwee and the hammock surrounded by the way, Sean, if you're listening to this, you I've said this a million times in many public places, please hit me. Tell me everything because you are unfortunately probably going to go to prison at some point for something because you are kind of you are a criminal. But yeah, the David Shore party pictures, it's very, it's very similar in the kind of reporting. It's a bit more like meh about them though. Yeah. I think something I've noticed is a trend
Starting point is 00:18:25 on the right wing for kind of since like the 2016 meme magic stuff is there's a lot of these sort of like right wing accounts on Twitter that are like, I don't know, like I guess you would call it like kind of Pinterest, but like fascist Pinterest or whatever. And there'll be like Swedish blonde girl on the mountains Pinterest or whatever. And there'll be like a Swedish blonde girl in the mountains nationalism or whatever. And it'll just be like a picture of like an ad from like the eighties or whatever of like a woman in some ski uniform.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And like, they'll have these like, it'll be, I think it's like really identical to like whatever like fashion tumblers or like anorexia tumblers I think is kind of more like and it's interesting because a lot of them latch onto Lana Del Rey I think in a very similar manner to like it's almost like one to one of kind of what I imagine a certain kind of like kind of sad creatures like existence on the internet is of like oh this is like I love this aesthetic love this aesthetic. Ooh, like an old, an old watch or like old money aesthetic or old, yes, whatever aesthetic. But like now it's so, I mean, the, the permeability between online and offline is so weak now. The veil has been kind of, you know, it's, it just basically doesn't exist that like a lot of, a lot of, I think what I see is people essentially like pretending like they're acting like they think adults
Starting point is 00:19:49 should act like a party and holding the kind of party that they think adults should have because of this mismatch of both fantasy, power projection, and the idle daydreaming you do after maybe you consume a piece of media you like. It's weird because I think it mirrors a broader trend in society where nobody seems to be in charge and know what's going on and everyone's acting out the roles that they think they should play rather than actually inhabiting those without this sort of like, it's a very neurotic way to approach things. I think that especially, I mean thes, I think hold a certain fascination
Starting point is 00:20:25 for a lot of people. Me, I don't care. I have a very modern face. So if I ever wear anything like a tuxedo, you know, I am the product of, I guess you might call me dysgenic if you're one of these people. But, uh, but I, I, you know, it makes it feel like a pity, I think, for a lot of people because I think everybody just really wants to be happy. And like, you know, it's same way like that, that people sort of like, you know, whenever you come across like an internet account, that's like some, you know, fucked up 20
Starting point is 00:21:00 year old woman's like thin, spohoh crazy shit with pictures of like whatever the the mentally You know sort of not all their actress are not a grande Uh, she's like pictures of her or whatever. You're like, oh I feel bad for you. But like The same thing is mirrored on the right wing um, and it it makes me I don't know it makes me feel a certain pity in this I thought it was very strange because they like And it makes me, I don't know, it makes me feel a certain pity. In this I thought it was very strange because they like, it was, it was, I saw this sort of like, you know, I try to kind of ignore these things, but I saw this sort of strange
Starting point is 00:21:31 back and forth and people pointing to these pictures and be like, look how they're lit. They're actually, did you know that New York Mag is actually making fun of these people? And then right wing people are like, look at this chick with big cheeks. She's the most beautiful white woman in history. And my thing is, I'm like, these just look like people. They look like normal people. I mean, I wouldn't say they look like ugly, but like, I mean, yeah, it's this kind of like, it's this notion that like right wing people are the most beautiful people on earth.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Right wing Donald Trump supporters are the most gorgeous women on the planet. And it's like, you know, like I didn't see anyone that in that article that looked like really freakish or ugly. They just look like normal people to me. Well, you know, the woman up there, I'm looking at it now, the woman above and to the left of the woman that that the right wing people were like all in love with looks pretty much one to one like Amy Schumer. I don't think she looks like Amy Schumer. I think she looks like Amy Schumer. I went New York magazine did the same thing to the the the cruel kids party that Time magazine did to OJ when
Starting point is 00:22:26 He got arrested. They sort of like heightened the contrast Make them look darker, but just to return to the articles here someone said here Everywhere across the capital people are comparing invitations and wondering how did that person get into that party as usually follows that question Why wasn't I invited as As one 28-year-old conservative influencer, Xavier DeRousseau, told, tells me, it's Republican Coachella. Donald Trump is our Beyonce. He kept his weekend organized on a color-coded spreadsheet in intervals of 30 minutes. I mean, like, that's the way people used to attend parties, in the grand old era of elegance and wealth. Like at a music festival, everyone's arms were covered in wristbands.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Have you ever been to Comic Con? A Brit named James Layfield, who is promoting his AI software that benefits Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency, asked me outside Butterworth. There's a lot of love here. Over the weekend, Curtis Yarvin stopped by. There are crypto nerds and influencer girlies and recent MAGA converts and gays of all stripes, plus your standard fair roguing listening bros. Few of them would call themselves Republican, lest they be tarred rhino.
Starting point is 00:23:33 They refer to their political affiliation almost always as the movement. Some are the black sheep at their own family thanksgivings, yet they project confidence that they're the relevant ones now. Many are hot enough to be extras in the upcoming American Psycho remake The set's most visible political stance is a reaction to what it sees as the left's puritanical obsession with policing language and talking about identity a Joke about Puerto Ricans or eugenics or sleeping with Nick Fuentes could throw a pack of smokers outside Butterworth's into a giggle fest pause there are many things in the world that could be considered interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:07 This is not one of them. Yeah, it just, I think, you know, I feel like I read this article four years ago when it was deplorable and I guess they're like, they're a little more upwardly mobile than the deplorable people, but it's, it's the same idea. You know, we're talking about the same things here. I do like, you know, and this would be, God forbid, another article coming in this world. But if there needs to be another article, this would be a good article.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Every time there's like an article or like, you know, a viral political thing. Right wing guys are like, oh, there's a new woman. thing, uh, right wing guys are like, Oh, there's a new woman. I've seen like 12 of these things happen in the last six months. I know they get a new Hawk to a like, it's serious. And there's, there's one lady. I love this lady. I can't remember what her name is, but she went viral for like saying the N word or something.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I was like, yeah, Lily Phillips or some shit. She's amazing. I love her. She's been trying to recapture the magic. And to me, it's almost like if Hawk2agirl tried to like come up with a new euphemism for sucking dick in a you know, normal but kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:25:16 way, every time she did like a thing, like, you know, she was like you know, sit and span or whatever. Like she tried to like come up with a new catchphrase. This woman's just like just gonna like, she's just finding out. She's like having to like Google sub races or like extinct, like, uh, competitors to the Neanderthal in order to be racing against them. And you don't have the magic honey. I love her. Like if she was like 10% more self-aware, she would realize that she could
Starting point is 00:25:42 be like the right wing Lena Dunham, but she just just she's so she like so kind of like a lib is like I'm a hot girl, you know. And it's so like I saw her. She was she posted some selfie and some gripper guy replied to her, a guy from my community. He was like, you look like a fucking Jew. And she was like, I agree. Jews look like weak women. And it was just like, oh, can I call you guys attention? I posted a, a, a website for, for Xavier. I don't remember, what was his last name? Xavier DuRose in the chat here. And I want you guys to look at, first of all, he's drinking an Erawan smoothie with over the ears
Starting point is 00:26:34 noise cancellation headphones on in his picture. But his fucking, his merch, this is a right wing influencer like quoted at the sort of the top of this article His merch is a shirt that has an Erewhon smoothie It's $45 and on the back it says walk with me and then a red one of that sold out $45 Donald Jaquan Trump red hat is it I don't understand Is this some kind of like I don't know I don't I guess it's just like
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm black, but it's that sucks kind of thing They love that thing where they where it's like Donald Trump's a freaking black guy yes Hey, Donald Trump got arrested. He's one of the brothers. Yeah. He's a fucking black guy. He's always in court and he has money He's like bling. Hillary Clinton has killed hundreds of people and has never been to court. I'm sorry. Donald Trump's a bitch because he got arrested. Clinton ate with Huma Abedin, allegedly, is said to have eaten a baby. No jail time! Nothing! Sorry, I like people who don't get caught. I'm looking. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Grace, did you go over to the sixty five dollar hoodie that has the star of David and the phrase Zionism is demure? Like this is all tick tock references. What a smoothie walk with me. Yeah, Zionism is demure. That's like Blake Flayton shit. Yeah, these are the same fucking people. Everything. Blake Fl is that's like Blake Flayton shit. Yeah. These are the same fucking people. Everything. Blake Flayton's are everywhere, dude. And they're everywhere. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:28:12 We I it's it's we should make politics only practice like guys who look like Chris Christie and above should only be able to practice politics. Like because in my head, Tammany Hall could only fit like three guys because politics guys back then were so fucking big. And now you've got all these skinny little twinks, every political ideology. This guy is like, I kind of respect it, frankly, cause he only has a merch, his entire website is just contact and merch. That's it.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And I'm like, I don't know if that's an influencer, but God bless him. It's just, it's insane to me. Like, because Zionism is demure. Like, what is the difference between that and Kamala is brat. Nothing. Everything is brat now. But that's done. That's done. Now we're fucking based.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Now we're racist. Are you guys, have you guys become, we're, we're, we were thinking of becoming conservative or liberal. I think we're doing liberal now, but I'm saying this. You guys gotta become conservative. Well, I mean, like I, I'm a non-political gripper right now. Yeah, okay. I just think the frog is cute,
Starting point is 00:29:16 but I think I could get into it. Why not? I watch, I mean, I watch Nick Fuentes every night, but it's like watching King of Queens. Like, I don't wanna become like a UPS driver or whatever. Like I'm just watching for the information. I'm just watching to get information. I mean I would like to, I mean I think in my conservative turn,
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't really like the 1920s aesthetic. I think I'm gonna like throw parties that are like Oklahoma, the musical theme. And then like the conservatives like me, we can be the cowboy and the libs can be the farmer. But the farmer and the cow man shouldn't be friends but we'll have sort of like a square dance style aesthetic at our parties. We'll be, you know, gingham skirts, things of that nature. I think that's a potentially fertile ground for aesthetics. You have to like, you know, pick something and, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:05 be like that nationalism. Like my thing would be, you know, base utter nationalism. We love the song Dota. So your, your thing could be, I don't know, you know, Michael Mann nationalism, some shit like that. Yeah, I'm thinking of like, I'm hoping with Cash Patel getting in there, who I love, who I adore, I'm hoping that when Cash Patel gets in there, first of all, we reopen the
Starting point is 00:30:32 investigation that Shirley existed in also was Shirley squashed into Avicii's death. We look into that guy from either Linkin Park or the other band. I can't remember. I tried so fucking Chester, was that Lincoln Park? Yes, that was Lincoln Park. Mr. Chester Bennington's Suicide, oh reopen that. Anthony Bourdain, I saw a new theory from these guys that I had never seen before, that Anthony Bourdain saw Adam Schiff eat a baby
Starting point is 00:31:00 at Chateau Marmont in fucking 2017 or whatever. How was it prepared? That he saw and it was crazy because the whole, I guess there's like some like online thing about the standard hotel because that lady went crazy and drowned herself there and like in like the QAnon style thing it was like you know the Chateau Marmont which is near the standard hotel. I'm like I don't think it is and I looked at it's like completely across LA. But like it's it was I mean we're back in like 2018 It's like 50,000 fucking likes on Twitter and it was there was people beseeching cash to reopen it and I'm saying cash
Starting point is 00:31:35 First of all Anthony Bourdain did not die. He is still among us. He is alive. He's inspiring us to eat all food all the time but cash us to eat all food all the time. Uh, but cash reopened the cases into all these people cause they were making a documentary that they did not want out there and they had to kill Avicii so the documentary didn't get made. Reopen it. Please. I love that.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I love this theory. I've seen this too. And it's like such a disparate group was working in the documentary. It was Chris Cornell, Avicii, Chester Bennington, and Anthony Bourdain. They were all like, let's produce a documentary about how Hillary Clinton like ate this baby. And as soon as they met, all killed. I do, I do agree with you. Anthony Bourdain, he is alive. And he, it's, it's's it's going to be like an amazing You know the wire style moment when it's the trial against Hillary and Huma for killing him and he shows up to testify
Starting point is 00:32:41 When he gets on the stand and he's like take life fucking seriously get an appetizer sit on a stool Listen to listen to the stoes. Wear a shirt. Can you imagine shot fucking... Hillary's about to win the trial because fucking all the judges are Democrats. And they're like the prosecution is like, we're all out of witnesses. Like, oh no, they all got killed or something. And all of a sudden through the fucking the courtroom comes Anthony Bourdain and he's dressed like Sean Maguire and he fucking gets up there and he lights up a fucking you know camel wide which like still he can still buy them because he's been hanging
Starting point is 00:33:12 out with the coolest guys in the fucking universe the coolest like Vietnamese guy ever and he's like yeah I saw Adam shit fucking take a bite of the foot and I know you know I'll eat anything you know that was too far for me and I said hey why don't you put a little barbecue sauce on that he looked at me his eyes blink sideways like a lizard he said get the fuck out of here I'm gonna tell her Clinton what you did which was not eat the fucking baby and then bam Hillary's here he's gone she's gone my question about that is where has she been? Where is her leadership?
Starting point is 00:33:47 We've got David Hogg speaking of people who are, you know, bad childhoods and I'm not talking about the motherfucking school shooting because you know, you could tell someone went on with that boy. David Hogg, you see that he's going to become a national political figure once again. Yeah. What is he like the assistant to the DNC or something like that?
Starting point is 00:34:06 What is that? What job is that? It's like vice vice DNC chair is like like sub nothing. That is like being the intern for a dog walker. That is shit. I would. Yeah. He's ignominious. It is sick to see the Democrats We try to like create like golem create a like left-wing Joe Rogan or like try to connect the youth and having
Starting point is 00:34:31 You know that hog is like fucking kids go crazy for hog because he's ready to be like, you know What this bill sucks ass? I'm sure you guys I'm sure you've talked about it Had these like four little twin guys that they were trying out. Oh Yeah, yeah They were all named like Charlie I love those kids also like when Phil you know how sometimes and I you know And I want to say this right now
Starting point is 00:34:59 You know I love Filipino people and you know that I'm politically a very involved over there But sometimes you meet a Filipino and their name is like Walter Rogers. And, you know, oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah, it's like a sugar bear. Rodriguez, yes, it's a long day. All named like Filipino guy names. And it's made me and I've thought and I've thought a lot about their message and this is my thing now.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You guys are fucking fucked up. I'm liberal now. Because liberal is everyone wants to get away from it. Everyone's like, we're not doing that anymore. We're going to do another thing. Not me. I'm going fucking. I am a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm in fact becoming one of the biggest Democrats probably ever. And every era, every era, from the beginning of the party to now, I'm incorporating all of it. It's a big tent. Well, I'm just saying, it's a big tent. And every era of history, which I haven't looked into yet, but I'm sure they're crazy. You know, I'm trying to just bring understanding to this country. But the MAGA party, I want to say this about that. You can't do party reporting because it makes you sound, if you're mad about a party It makes you sound like an ass. It makes you sound like a bitch. Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:08 And I just want I want to get to the the crux of the party reporting article here. It's just this paragraph here It says um This is like she says recounting her time at one of the balls a woman tells me she jumped the velvet rope into the VIP Section like a little Mexican. She then lets out a cackle. This is the posture that has attracted newcomers to the cause. Six months into Biden being president, I was like, I can't fucking do this anymore. This is a 19 year old New Yorker who once quite literally had blue hair and attends Marymount Manhattan, which he describes as 75% women and 23% trannies. He had supported Biden, but I hate watching the things I say. I took a much farther horseshoe around this time. Later, a former Bernie supporter who looks like the most
Starting point is 00:36:51 Bernie supporting person one could imagine with long curly hair and a plaid shirt told me the same. He wanted the freedom to say faggot and retarded. And I mean, there's a similar quote in a Financial Times article the other week about an investment banker who is like discussing the sort of the feeling of joy and triumph that comes with being able to call people retarded and pussies again. But you could do that. Yeah. Wait, when can you stop saying pussy? I got yelled at for saying pussy and you know what happened?
Starting point is 00:37:21 I didn't even get fired for being the vice chair of the Gropar movement. But a couple of it says the 19 year old who says six months into Biden's president is like, I can't fucking do this anymore. Like you're 19 years old. Like you're not paying taxes. Maybe he's Biden's kid, man. Or maybe that fucking grandson or whatever. All right. Maybe he was the baby and frazzled rip.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Oh, wait. wait, hold on. I just thought of another cool thing. Anthony Bourdain considered his trial. What? When Hillary asked me if she will, if I want to watch this shit called frazzled drip, I said, bitch, is that is that a new mocha frappe or whatever? Give me a fucking coffee. You fucking give me, give me, give me a coffee.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Give me an espresso. You can't give me a, you know what? give me a give me a coffee give me an espresso you cunt Give me you know what give me a black coffee or as you might call it Hillary a super predator coffee Can't wait for this trial dude Bourdain is gonna fucking we need Bourdain, dude We need you know what we need a liberal Anthony Bourdain to come back We need liberal cuz that's the only thing that can defeat Republican Joe Rogan is fucking badass liberal Anthony. When Anthony Bourdain was alive and on TV, Obungler won Ohio and Florida by like 7 p.m. Well, because I've never heard of other racists before Tony and like when he
Starting point is 00:38:39 showed me that there's not only a whole, he went to all kinds of places and I because I thought there was just three, there was, there was, there was white people and then he went to Asia and there's not only Asians, but there's a different kinds of them. I was like, and they have food. I was crazy looking at it. Drink fucking beer. Like you were me. Um, it's, it's, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And like, I would never believe he committed suicide because you know, who did that was Hitler famously and Tony is, I'm sorry. No, no friend of Barack Obama would do anything like that. Uh, yeah. You know, it's, they want the freedom to say retarded and let me, let me give you, let me give you a hint of how I've been able to get away with saying it this entire time. I went to special ed high school, uh, where people called you that when you went to regular high
Starting point is 00:39:26 school and you had to go to the public high school that was for other kids who couldn't fucking read. What up? I'm Jared, I'm 19 and I never fucking learned how to read. So I can say it. People got mad at you for saying stuff a lot in public and what I just did was just ignored them because I can but I think a lot of people who worked in white collar jobs this is like a major thing that they have to deal with that I just don't understand
Starting point is 00:39:53 like a lot of things that people have been I and I'd say this I'd say this you know with full understanding and love for every single human being ever born in history including up to the ones in the future I love everybody but I don't have never worked in an office. And I think working in an office makes you go like a crazy person. Yeah. Yeah. That is, I think that's it. Um, you know, to us woke is like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It means NBC just does a different type of show. But if you work at an office, I think woke might mean that you have to like, you have to like take a class where it's like, you know, don't go up to someone and be like, let me guess, tie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And it's, you know, I see both sides of the argument. Most people don't have to take those classes. But the fucked up thing is there are people who take those classes and are like, well, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that. There are a lot of stupid people out there. I think, you know, we need to like gamify woke. If there was a Duolingo bird to teach people this stuff that would be fantastic Yeah, one more one more little thing here
Starting point is 00:41:08 It says conservatives used to be uptight but the left has become the funless sexless party Not the right now the right not that the right is the party of sex necessarily We have fun says a 31 year old influencer Aryan Wexler What does the concern what does a conservative even look like anymore? And I guess like I don't know is it a revelation that Conservatives like do drugs and have sex like is that is that comes as a surprise to anyone at Gates? Yeah I mean they loved a party concert is love loved to party love doing love doing sex and drugs Just like just like everyone else, but I just like my concluding thought on the sort of right-wing scene reporting here
Starting point is 00:41:44 I have to credit Ben Mora of Seeking Derangements for this observation about the New York Magazine cover. That is, what do you think the J6 defendants think about these rich kids getting all of the credit for the new right-wing cultural turn? If you're a diabetic 60- old who, you know, like, had had a mild heart attack walking up the steps at the Capitol, only to spend the next four years in prison for, you know, shitting in a garbage can or something like that, or stealing Nancy Pelosi's pen. I mean, what do you what do you like it must feel pretty
Starting point is 00:42:19 shitty to see these like, you know, you these these these scene stars just swoop in and just get anointed like the new cultural the avatar of Donald Trump's America. And that's not I mean, a like, that's not new. Like the Republican Party has always had the jug hooters and the, you know, great Gatsby vibes set. And one has always thought the other is like trash and, you know, beneath them. But on the other hand, all the J six people who got pardoned, they see like the day they got out of jail, they instantly like drank a bottle of Nyquil and like drove headfirst into a police station.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And even if even the ones who haven't like killed themselves or killed someone else or, you know, molested, molested, um, you know, they're not going to be able to police station. And even if even the ones who haven't like killed themselves or killed someone else or, you know, molested, you know, did the classic low IQ move of going to Starbucks and like trying to like download CP. That's a big one for these types of people. Even the ones that are free for the time being. do you think they're reading New York mag? Probably not. But if they are, I don't know. I think they would be like, these seem like great young people. I'd love a wife like that. She wouldn't, she wouldn't be talking about all this fucking woke shit. But if they ever met, it would be like the, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:42 when Borat tried to put Pam Anderson in the bag. You know, I think, I think, I think part of it is, is funny because like in my head, like this is what been like, like frat guys have been like for like forever, right? Like Bush, Bush, whatever, 84 t shirt and like a Budweiser and like, like slurs or whatever. And like, but it's funny because no matter if you're like a left wing New York person or a right wing New York person, you always, everyone always has to pretend that like New York discovered it. And so like now it is like a real thing. And so like, that's what a lot of this feels like is like, I don't know where all these people are from,
Starting point is 00:44:20 but like a lot of this sort of feels like New York mag is like, look, like Republicans are fucking partying again. And isn't that fucking crazy? They're in suits. And I'm like, this just looks like, I think, I think literally the woman that these people are obsessed with, it's just like a Southern sorority lady. Like these people have existed the entire time. But like it's, it's interesting because I think even people sort of from the, let's say the periphery in America,
Starting point is 00:44:46 like still seek this, like, even if it's negative, they still seek this acceptance from like the New York libtard cultural core. Because unfortunately, the libtards, you never escape the libtard in your head. It fucking sets the rules. It's like, even if you hate them, even if you're like, fuck them, they're fucking, they're fucking trans or whatever, like blah, blah, blah, you still want them to look at you and to acknowledge you, even if it's in a negative way. That's what it is. NYC continues to be number one. So that's one scene that's very much feeling itself right now. But I'd like to transition down the rest of the show.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Brace, I just want a brief dossier from you on another scene that's feeling itself right now. That's the scene of computer science rationalists who have formed a cult and started killing people on both coasts of this country. I'm speaking of course about the Zizians. Brace, I looked at, I know you and Trunon just did like a two-part episode on the Zizians, but like I was just trying to do my own research on this and figure out what they're about and as best I could, it's sort of this incomprehensible philosophy, like a totally incomprehensible philosophy that I think is, if there's any intent behind it,
Starting point is 00:46:14 it's designed to drive you insane. But it basically is about good and non-good moral codes and dark gods. Am I sort of nibbling around the edges of this? And could you talk about the people they've murdered and perhaps why? So I want to start by addressing your claim that this is incomprehensible because I'm forced to agree with you. And I feel sort of like, you know when like a new young gangster or like young guy who thinks he's gangster encounters an old real school old school like real mafia type who sort of shows him what it means to be like a gentleman gangster and like puts him down. For me that's like I thought I knew like what autistic was and I was like okay like I've been to like a DSMU like I understand like what's going on I live
Starting point is 00:47:00 in San Francisco for a long time a lot of and I thought I got it. And then I got into this and I was like, oh, fuck, like I am so outclassed here that I can barely understand what's going on. But I do because there is essentially like this this it's called functional decision theory. I mean, that's just that's just one part of it. And it's certainly a causal theory of decisions where you do not make choices between outcomes, but choices between strategies. It is genuinely like people it is like it reads like the deep seek explain your thinking kind of fucking AI search.
Starting point is 00:47:33 I like like read these people's thoughts because they do not like it's I'm trying to be really gentle here. But like they all basically come from a cult itself. gentle here, but like they all basically come from a cult itself. This like Meery rationalist movement, uh, machine intelligence research Institute, Meery, and then like the greater kind of like intellectual milieu that like it comes from in the East Bay, uh, which involves a lot of, um, like Ayala, you know, Ayala, the person who's like, the girl who measures her poop and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Who's always like, would you have sex with one kid or kill two kids? Like, it's all shit like that. Yeah, yeah. No, I think about Aella is that like she always seems to be posing these like moral and philosophical quandaries that, yeah, do you seem to box you into this like, yeah, it would be OK to have sex with a kid. Yes, that is that is well interesting. You say that because that's where some of this comes from. So like that to me, like to you or me or anybody, you would just be like, this is stupid.
Starting point is 00:48:30 It's like the trolley problem. Like when I see the trolley, I heard about that. I was like, I don't know. I guess I kill less people. I tried to. I don't know. But these people like see that and they're like, oh, fuck, everything's different in my. Like, oh no, I never thought of that before. And it drove them crazy. And so these people basically come from this quasi cult-like group that believes that in AI, that we have to do AI safety, which I believe it. I actually am sort of probably,
Starting point is 00:49:01 I do agree with them on some things that I can parse where I'm like, yeah, we should blow up all AI and make it like, you know, treat it like the equivalent of biological weapons and send out kill themes to destroy it all throughout the country or excuse me, the world. But, um, but they also sort of believe that we're going to make God that's AI and like they're afraid of it. And that also drove them crazy. In fact, like there's a side part of this, which we haven't, we don't
Starting point is 00:49:26 need to talk about in the episodes, but because we might be working on something else where some people think that that we're going to do that and that's a good thing and they like are already worshiping it, but, um, it's like, kind of this like goofy thing in the East Bay funded by Jeffrey Epstein, by Peter Teal, you know, like all these kind of, uh, great characters, um, and in mesh and kind of the libertarian scene, Curtis Yarvin kind of came up alongside of it in like a lot of the people, like the most annoying commentators that you've seen in through, in like the, the political sphere have their roots in this.
Starting point is 00:49:57 The Zizzi and these people who've killed, um, this like offshoot that's killed like six or seven people. I mean, depending on your, how you're calculating it are a group of, um, it's hard to say how many there are, like, I don't know, maybe six, maybe 10. Um, I was in their discord a little bit and there were some people who were in there that I'm like, you have not been caught yet. Nobody knows who you are, but it's impossible to know if they met in real life who sort of like found a, who got into this scene, it drove them insane.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And then because of accusations of sex abuse, blackmail payments, and transphobia, because all the people in the offshoot group, not all of the people, but several of the people are trans and then some xeno gender kind of things. I can't say it. The one that sounds like Xi Jinping, Xi Jim's year, but, uh, they, they're like kind of offshoot of that comes from like the, the, the core rationalist people are transphobic and they are paying sex abuse, blackmail payments. They split off and then they sort of live on these boats and they live in these weird little insular trucks communities.
Starting point is 00:51:07 They live in box trucks and they go crazy on Discord coming up with D&D characters and then are so insane and bad at doing anything in reality or actually interacting with human beings that they end up killing definitely one guy in Vallejo causing the deaths of the border patrol shootout, which in the border patrol shootout of a border patrol agent, which you know, no tears here and one of their members, and then almost certainly killing the parents of one of their members and then either driving two other people to suicide or those people, one of those people might not have existed. It's like it is, there's a lot of parallels
Starting point is 00:51:45 to the Manson family here. And it's interesting because the millenarian impulses from these people are really all to do with technology, like all to do with God and like their alignment towards the future AI God and how it will view our actions now because it will be all knowing and be able to reach through time and space.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So they made, so these are people who are, it's the Rocco's Basilisk thing, right? Yes. And so they're obsessed with that idea and do they want to make it real or are they trying to prevent it? That's what I'm confused about. Well, I think that they want to prevent it, but like kind of seems like they're also like maybe a little worshiping it and like also maybe feeding bodies to it. I mean, one of the main lead people in this group, because it's more like they call themselves
Starting point is 00:52:33 anarchists and you know me, I'm, I'm a hater, but I could not really find anything I recognize as like anarchism at all in their writings. It's kind of just crazy people stuff, but they're like what you could call sort of their ideological figurehead or their center of gravity, Ziz, was driven insane by Rocco's Basilisk in like very, like no uncertain terms. And for those who don't know, Rocco's Basilisk is an idea from the forums that these guys post on that was deemed so dangerous that it was banned from any mention for many years. But it's the idea that there's going to be a future AI God in the future we're going to make and he's going to be so powerful that he's going to come back in time and punish and torture you forever for not helping him bring it into existence.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That is like a central belief for a lot of these people, but the Zizians are different because they, it's funny because like people have been trying to ascribe all sort of motivations for a lot of their stuff. And I'm, you know, I've been open to any interpretation. But really veganism is like a major component. Yeah, they describe themselves as vegan Siths. Yes. Like the Star Wars bad guy. First of all, I love, you know, what you put out about the autism thing.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Because one of, you know, this has been driving me crazy. Just like people think schizophrenic means you type the government into Google and take a picture of it. People think that, oh my God, I'm the only guy in the world who reads fucking Wikipedia. I'm fucking autistic. And I am so glad someone is out there reminding everyone that autism is the bite the teacher. I can say that. Correct. Secondly, you know, I don't support what they're doing. It's all very confusing to me.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But I do think that America does deserve a kind of vegan ISIS after what we did to the environmental movement in the 90s and 2000s. Robert Mueller specifically is public enemy number one for me. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because they have their defenders sort of like on Twitter. I've been reading them and I think I have to give a little bit of grace here because like listen if if like you know if I was part of a very small and sort of group that talked to each other on discord all the time and then like six guys from that group
Starting point is 00:54:56 or like six people from that group fucking you know killed a bunch of people in the name of whatever the fuck we were coming up with in there. I guess I would, I would do, I don't know what my, my cult would be. It would probably just try to be white Chinese, but like, uh, can I join now? Yeah, absolutely. You can't, absolutely. You can't, but like it's, it's, it's crazy. I mean, these are probably our first serial killers or like group. I don't know if serial killers is the right word, but our first like murder group that has one of the people like the guy. Yeah, guy Max is not not trans, which I think has been mistakenly identified as such, who killed the guy in Vallejo. Like you think he murdered this landlord in Vallejo,
Starting point is 00:55:39 who survived because they were living in tractor trailers on his property and stopped paying rent during covid. And then they killed him when he asked for rent. Yes. Well, they hadn't paid rent for two years. And he was like, guys, like I he also lived in a tractor trailer is like you've taken over the entire lot. You put padlocks and everything. You're freaking me out. Like you throw rocks at my trailer. Like, can you please leave?
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then they lured him out to one of their trailers and then stabbed him from the back to the front through with a katana. So like Pierce just like the katana was sticking out of the front of his chest and he still pulled out a gun and shot two of them. He's 80 years old. They finally actually killed. He survived that and they finally actually killed him. A different person who wasn't there that day about three weeks ago or two weeks ago in
Starting point is 00:56:23 Vallejo and the guy who did eventually kill him, one of his last posts on Twitter and in fact in his Discord. Be gay, do crimes. No, no brother. It is apologizing for BDSM centric erotic role play with another member of his Discord. And I'm sorry, we have not found killers like this before and it's interesting I was not familiar with their game we were not familiar with their game not familiar with their game and listen you know because I had to
Starting point is 00:56:54 explain erotic role play which even I don't really fully understand I don't think I get it on like a cellular level like some people do but I had to explain that to Liz and that was a difficult conversation to have. But these people, it's really like there's a lot of like, you know, going to the Discord, getting into their Discord was like really illuminating because like, I mean, it's just, they're talking about, I'm like, how did you, the media, the lion media keeps calling them computer geniuses. And I'm like, that, you're wrong. They're actually just geniuses at spending a lot of time on the computer. But I'm not seeing like a lot of stuff that they're doing.
Starting point is 00:57:32 That like they're not like coding some crazy. They're the best at being on discord. Yeah. They're geniuses at being on discord. And I was thinking about this in the context of the black Nazi school shooting, like the incel guy that happened recently too like almost the same week and a lot of that was it seems like maybe he knew that other school shooter like the like the girl school shooter that happened a few months
Starting point is 00:57:54 ago from discord chats and stuff and i'm like we need to like there's no reason for discord to exist because discord as far as i understood it is like what a team speak or whatever. Like you can talk to people while you're playing games with them. Yeah. You don't need a chat. You don't need a talk tech texting thing. It should be directly connected to computer games because it is there are bad things happening there.
Starting point is 00:58:16 But I guess, like, here's the thing I don't understand. Like that. So like, yeah, like this is sort of like a incomprehensible philosophy based around the blogs of a person called ziz. Yes. But like the tumblers, what what do they want other than to be able to live without paying rent? And I just can't discern like what what are they trying to achieve? Like what are their values? Like what like what what are they trying to like in
Starting point is 00:58:42 Colquitt in the culture or in some future day other than a dark AI god? As far as I can understand it, they sort of view the AI gods view of us similar to our view of animals. And so like we have all these Auschwitz factory farms, which I don't disagree with around. And so if they don't practice this like militant violent veganism, then they'll be Rocco's basilisk in the future and tortured because they will be like the carnist, you know, genocide heirs that like everybody else is. However, the actual murders don't really
Starting point is 00:59:20 correlate with any of this. They haven't like killed any like heads of meat companies or anything. They've just killed random people or they've like just killed anybody that like they didn't like it seems like. And so I think a lot of it is like it's pretty incomprehensible in terms of like politically. I think that they that is like so far outside the realm of their understanding because it hasn't been talked about in Steven Universe but which there are many links to on that blog. So I'm not, I'm not talking out of that turn here. But I think it's like, it's more, you kind of have to view it almost more in religious
Starting point is 00:59:53 terms rather than political terms. And like, I think it is like an apocalyptic, millenarian sort of like fantasy scenario they have where like, actually, even though there's apocalypse of the AI might happen like hundreds of years in the future, that AI is so powerful that it can torture those they have where actually even though there's apocalypse of the AI might happen hundreds of years in the future, that AI is so powerful that it can torture those who exist now by uploading their conscious. I mean, it's just nonsense. They're acting in this way and in this philosophy using a lot of this logical functional decision
Starting point is 01:00:22 theory, causal decision theory, whatever like framework in order to justify basically anything they do. So what they actually are, are like kind of like pitiful loser outcasts of society who like can't keep a job and like get kicked out of every apartment they have because of roommate problems, which was unfortunately seemingly the genesis of one of these people's descent into madness. Um, but they're using their sort of philosophical framework to justify everything they do after that, if that makes sense. So like, okay, yeah, we, we are, we are, we are essentially like, like
Starting point is 01:00:55 people who live in box trucks and harass an old man on his property in Vallejo and like, walk around with a katana. Yeah. And like run them through with a katana, But, but we're actually saving the world and like, we're not only trying to save the world, but like we're trying to prevent even our own torture in the future by this like basilisk AI God that's going to be created. And so everything we do actually leads eventually to us saving the world. And so it doesn't like, like nothing we do is actually constrained by the regular moral
Starting point is 01:01:25 constraints of society or like ethical or legal because we're, we're embarked on this like sacred mission. And a lot of it seems to come from like, you know, reading through all the blogs of these people, they consumed a lot of really shitty media in the past, like 10 years, 20 years. And so like, there are a lot of references to the Protoss from Starcraft and there are a lot of references to the Sith there's a lot of links to wookiepedia and like they they sort of view themselves as people who must act in evil ways so they wouldn't call them
Starting point is 01:02:00 that because they're ultimately doing this good thing but they're unfortunately kind of too stupid to actually figure out a master plan or maybe they have one and haven't published it. And so I've just kind of gone around killing people especially over the past like six months. Well that ties that up. I guess I want to know, Brace, if I join the white Chinese cult, can I justify all of my most evil and selfish impulses in in sort of like in terms of supporting China? Or if I join the white Chinese cult, will that will actually instill a sense of selflessness and morality in me? Well, the white Chinese think in terms of centuries, right? And so like,
Starting point is 01:02:40 what about them? Yeah, that's that's kind of our whole thing about it. And like, yeah, that's, that's kind of our whole thing about it. And like, so anything you do now, as long as it makes more white Chinese or more, more white Chinese or more white Chinese, you're good. Like, because ultimately you're working for good. And that's the thing is you just got to take a look at yourself and think about it for, I want every listener, chapel trap has to think about this for two, literally just two seconds and then never think about it again. Am I a good person? Trap has to think about this for two, literally just two seconds. And they never think about it again. Am I a good person? And if the answer is yes, everything you do is good.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Cause how could a good person do bad things? That is one of the great paradoxes of our time. And by paradox, I mean, true thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, so I will say one of the, one of the assailants, uh, of the old man in Vallejo in 2022, when they originally attacked him. So like they originally attacked their landlord in Vallejo in 2022, ran him through with a katana and then eventually one of their friends murdered the guy
Starting point is 01:03:36 for good, like two weeks ago, but in 2022, one of the attackers was, was someone named Somnolence Ligencia. Okay, pal. Okay. Okay, pal. Okay. Okay, pal. I'm loving it. I love it. But is this what's like, I would think about this, man.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Like, is this just like, maybe this is the world we live in now. Like maybe like, maybe we're, we're wrong and outdated for it. Cause we're liberal, you know, true and I was liberal. You guys are conservative now. Um, and like, maybe we're thinking, Trunon's liberal, you guys are conservative now. And maybe we're thinking outmoded and we need to get into whatever is going on in Berkeley. I think that's possible that they'll look at our names
Starting point is 01:04:16 and they'll think it's the same as being named Hortense Greatofer. Like the types of names that a senator would have in 1830. Everyone in the future will have like, I don't know, what kind of names are they? People always say Star Wars names. These are not Star Wars names. These are like... Elon Musk kids names. Yeah, yeah. I don't, again, I don't support their thing of being like, this guy ate Jollibee, let's kill him. But if I had to guess what are people going to trend to,
Starting point is 01:04:55 it's going to be that behavior in one way or the other. Yeah, I mean, I think the one thing that I really glean from this is, and I kind of glean this actually from almost every single new news story that comes out that doesn't involve a natural disaster, but like the internet drives people fucking insane. Like it is really like, and that leads me to think I'm like, I just don't think that like the human brain can handle that much stuff that like that work.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Like I don't think that we're meant to like talk to people as many people as it's possible to talk to or like view as many things as no absolutely not. It drives people fucking crazy. I know. Well, you know, it's just it's long been a stance of Chapo Conservative House that conversations should only be had around a cracker barrel or on a fax. That's facts. I mean, as far as far as you say, praise.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Oh, we should be looking to Berkeley. No, thanks Chapa conservative house knows Berkeley is a hotbed of loony loony liberalism And I won't I won't be I've taken any advice from them of the from the the gay area See I can say that now because because of Rocco's basilisk. Yeah I mean I for me my vision of the future that I want I'm not even that I want but that would be preferable of the future that I want, not even that I want, but that would be preferable to the one that we're probably going to have, is like one guy, no fuck it, I'm liberal, one woman that looks like GK Chesterton.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Stop, stop. That is just pushing buttons that's shutting websites off. That's just like that is just pushing buttons that shutting websites off That's just putting but push like we banned almost every website. I think there needs to be an upload cap I think that we need to ban the front-facing camera And I think that you're allowed like a certain amount of text message like we need some kind of digital rationing But that isn't necessarily like correlated to the amount of things that we can do But it's called like the amount of data that we we can have but that is it's correlated or the amount of data that we can have, but that is correlated to the amount of data that the human mind can comprehend. I think that there's just too much of that.
Starting point is 01:06:53 But for me, my brain's different because I'm a little bit of a cyborg, because I have a permanent retainer. And so I think that I can deal with it, but a lot of people cannot. Well, I guess I have to offer my conservative opinion. Of course. Since you offered your liberal one, we'll offered our half of our conservative one, not for the other half. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:15 We need women who are a hundred feet tall and 70,000 tons and men being shrunk to the size of ants. And we're being chased around and we have to hide in their toes. And we have to cover ourselves in their toe jam. And they know it's there and they make it extra stinky. They do things like wear wool socks and go on the highest resistance on the elliptical.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And then they crush us, then it starts over again. Nationalism. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I believe in that. I see that. That's that's that's a wholesome pro-America agenda that I think all people of stern morality and good conscience can get behind. You're disgenic if you don't if you don't. You're fucking disgenic, dude. You're fucking disgenic.
Starting point is 01:08:04 If there's one thing I've always hated is dysgenic people. I hate them. You're dysgenic and your genes are fucked up. That's how I think about it. But for me, I love dysgenic. And I love this generation of people, of young Democrat liberal activists that are coming up, like David Hogg. And who's the white man they got in charge of the DNC now? Ken Martin.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Ken Martin Ken? It's crazy Ken Martin, yeah, cuz they kicked the brother to the curb and they had to put in two of the fucking the tastiest white man ever Hog who by the way, you still look like a boy because now it's liberal. I won't know wait I'm liberal you still look like a boy, but Ken Martin this guy is nothing This guy is nothing they need to get me in the DNC because I'm a Democrat. I I was I'm a Jamie Harrison fan I was on his Twitter a lot because he was always arguing with with like, you know Gurney, Illinois for Bernie 2020.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Um, his bio, I always loved this. It said fan of Costco, WWE, Marvel and Bojangles, which is some, you know, like bullshit, Carolina. It's like a fried chicken chain. Yeah. And it's a fan Marvel, WWE. It's just my friend. Uh, Jim said that, um, it was like he Googled things to be a fan of.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I did. I don't know if I told you this Felix, but I sat on the plane next to Cory Booker on the way back from, uh, you told me about this. Yeah. And he picked a girl up. Like he was in, he was in the aisle seat. There was a woman in the middle and there was me and he picked the woman in the middle up uh by saying among other things i like marvel and dc but he was like really he's way more enthusiastic about it i have never seen game like that in my
Starting point is 01:09:56 fucking life and then i later found out that he fuck because everyone thinks cory booker is gay and he's allowed he lets people be he lets people You know be mysterious about that, but I found out since then That Cory Booker is an animal. I mean he is He is drowning in his stuff And then he's particularly he has kind of I've never read up or seen up in the air I think it's a book too, but I know the guy wrote is always saying some stupid shit on the internet Uh, but he's still work with walter kurran Kern actually I gotta tell you that guy will fall for anything Walter Kern is so funny every day
Starting point is 01:10:33 Every day he's posting something like kill your oldest kid now. They're going to kill us for supporting RFK he posts like QAnon. Yeah, he is he Walter You are not in it. You are not at the party. I'm sorry. I don't want to tell you There's a lot of these guys like that It's like you're not you're not in the club But I but I appreciate you in the line because I love everybody but but Cory Booker fucks in airports like nobody's been I've never fucking airport under what circumstances would I but I mean obviously like a grinder whatever situation, but I don't fuck with that stuff because just because it's dangerous but
Starting point is 01:11:11 Cory is like in there and and like having women meet him in the lounge making love to them and then putting their asses back on the plane I'm serious Respect Cory they need you to add the DNC so we have more of the women's vote. Yeah. You told me about this gutter in detail and I was utterly transfixed. I loved it. He does appear that he's going to have a significant role because Chuck Schumer loves how he does his TikTok and he's telling them, hey, you know that elderly man that they picked over AOC
Starting point is 01:11:50 for oversight, the guy who has exactly 17 minutes of life left, we need you to like, you know, do Miles Morales NPC videos with him. I'm saying they should have Anthony Weiner back up there. Post a picture of that fucking dick again. That's crazy. That's crazy they got him out because gray sweatpants were invented like a few years later. And it's like what he did, if Anthony Weiner did that now, I think he would just get off.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Like I think people would be like, ah, you know, who among us, you know? If he had done it through gray sweatpants, it would have been like a law and order thing. Like he, like he keeps doing it, but they're like, he's got the sweatpants on and it's like, if we're going to criminalize like a Dick being visible through sweatpants, that's like a constant, it's a constitutional crisis. And not to be, you know, not to, not to tell tells out of school, but humor going from Weiner to Alex Soros, who by the way, Huma, you can do better than that, honey. I mean, you can't do better than that because he's one of the richest guys, but we know
Starting point is 01:12:51 what you're doing. He's ugly. I don't care who you are. Alex Soros, and listen, I'm a big supporter of his father, George, for religious reasons, not to do with the bad. I actually don't like his politics, but Alex Soros is ugly. I'm sorry, Alex. If you're listening to this, you need to get recon, you need to do a facial surgery to look like a frankly to look Chinese because I think that's going to be really
Starting point is 01:13:16 big in the next hundred years or so. But, uh, I, you're disgusting. Humor is delicious. She is delightful. Like I think that Bourdain, if he's in the courtroom there, he'd be like, Hillary's guilty. Because I saw the fucking video. Humor, I only saw blinding light. And I am actually now conservative because I believe in something that I've come up with on my fucking badass swagger walk up to the stand called Humuma Abedin nationalism that I believe in. Ooh. I, Anthony Bourdain, am saying we should lock Hillary Clinton up for being a liberal, not for eating the baby because that's legal now, or that should be legal because of the AI God, because a baby will eat more meat, but eventually will grow up. They grow, they grow up. But I think Huma to me is fucking gorgeous and beautiful. I don't know where I was going with that. I just am thinking about her again.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Well, I think we should leave it there today. Everyone listening to this, please start thinking about Huma. If you don't start thinking about Huma now, there's a chance that when she becomes a sent, you know, sort of an AI God, she'll torture you for eternity. So just start thinking about Huma. If you don't start thinking about Huma now, there's a chance that when she becomes a sent, you know, sort of an AI God, she'll torture you for eternity. So just start thinking about Huma. What can I do to protect Huma? What can I do to uphold Huma? Huma? Nationalism. Yeah. Who am I thinking of tonight when I go to sleep? Ms. Abedin. Dude, her name is gonna be Humasaurus. Oh, that is wretched. That's wretched. Jesus. If you're in my Groyper group right now, we need you to start posting pictures of Humo with Anthony Weiner and being like, they took this from you because he stood up for his
Starting point is 01:15:02 family or some stupid joke. The original JD Vance Yeah, yeah Everything JD Vance pretends to be for whites but isn't Oh, okay Alright, wrap it up there for today folks Thank you to Brace Beltin for joining us today
Starting point is 01:15:18 and you know enlightening us as usual Thank you for having me Everyone listen to Truanon. Okay. Till next time everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye. I can't help getting trashed just to lay back down I'm missing my worth by the mouth I ain't recognized living the life that I ain't done Then I get smacked, then given advice, put it up out
Starting point is 01:15:55 That's the KDAB's first drive, it's my day job You can't stop me, you're too on the top I'm on a fire, I'm out of luck Get together, figure it out

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