Chapo Trap House - 993 - From the Columbia River to the Sea feat. Andrew Hudson (12/8/25)
Episode Date: December 9, 2025Andrew Hudson of E1 returns to talk about a grab bag of recent news: Marie Glusenkamp Perez’s war on pinnipeds, Alex Karp’s tweaked-out media hits, and another vaccine on the RFK’s chopping bloc...k. We then turn to Milo Yiannopoulos, who just recently made the equally outrageous claims that Charlie Kirk is still alive and Benny Johnson is actually gay. Finally, Tarantino’s unbearable public persona, the Ellison-Zaslav war over Warner Bros.’ future, and a lot of praise for a recent genre movie. Listen to Episode 1 here: https://soundcloud.com/episode-one-868768631 And subscribe here: https://www.patreon.com/e1podcast/posts
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All right
All I want to be is a trouble
All I want to be is a trouble
Hello, everybody,
I hope you're going to be
shopping
and old St. Nick
will be visiting all of us soon enough.
On today's episode,
Felix and I were pleased to have our good friend
Andrew Hudson back in the house with us.
Andrew, welcome back.
Yo, what's up, boys?
Nothing much. Everything is going splendidly, as I mentioned. But it's sort of a mix of topics on today's show.
But there is one thing I would like to address at the top of the show that I did mention, we mentioned this briefly on our last episode with Matt, but I do think it warrants just a little further investigation from us.
And I am speaking, of course, about the unlimited Pinnipad genocide that is currently being plotted in the Great Pacific Northwest of this country.
thanks to the efforts of Democratic Congresswoman Marie Glucentcamp Perez.
Obviously, listeners, I think you know what our feelings are about this before we start.
But I did watch basically just like some C-SPAN footage of Marie-Glusen-Camp Perez testify
or, you know, questioning the marine biologists in the state of Washington
about sea lion infiltration, basically illegal sea lion immigration into the rivers
of the Pacific Northwest.
And her solution for this
is basically giving people
a license to kill.
A license to kill sea lions.
And I'm just going to read here.
It says,
Washington Representative Marie Glucent-Camp Perez
wants to explore more lethal removal options
for sea lions.
She joined the House Committee
on Natural Resources hearing
on Wednesday,
where she questioned experts
about strategies to remove
the tens of thousands of sea lions
she said have invaded the Columbia River.
As the name implies, sea lions are a species that belong in the sea, she told the committee, not in our rivers.
So once again, we see here, we see like the sort of the Trump-like creep into the Democratic Party as they turn his own rhetoric about the illegal immigrant invasion on our wonderful pinnipeds.
Again, like the first time this came up, I had a lot of people going, well, you know, look, I don't like Mary Glucent-Crant-Perez or her.
138-year-old parents
who are both 89 years old
when they can see of her.
I don't like her at all.
But these sea lions,
all these pitipeds,
they make it really hard
for me to get all my salmon.
And it's like,
how much salmon are you eating,
you nasty bitch?
Every meal a day?
What's going on over there?
And I think we should make this
the image for this week's episode.
But my favorite thing is that
in the State Committee on Natural Resources
hearing that she was opining about the need to kill pinnipeds at.
She had an aide standing behind her with one of,
you know how like congressmen, when they're like they, you know,
it's something being spoken about on the floor of Congress.
And they bring up like, you know, like some big, like blown up image of something
and they put it on like an easel next to them so they can point to it.
In this subcommittee meeting, she had an aid standing behind her with a giant like sort
of poster board of an image comparing the size.
of a stellar sea lion
to that of a Toyota Corolla.
And she was like, just for
scale reference here, one of these stellar
sea lions can weigh almost as much
as a Toyota Corolla and be almost as large.
They are a threat.
And then even just to peacefully
remove even one of them cost the
taxpayer is $38,000.
Think how much Sam in a Toyota Corolla
is.
And, you know, Felix,
what's a group?
You know, I think I've mentioned this
on this show before.
Who is a group that I hate
That I can't stand whenever I hear about them
Or their complaints or their problems in the news
It's ironically the thing you're not
According to a certain account
No I'm referring
Religious ethnicity group
I'm referring to farmers
I'm referring to farmers
Right
We hate farmer
That's the account I was talking about
I'm like many other accounts
I've never been accused of being or not being a farmer
No, I hate farmers, right?
I hate everything about them.
I think, if anything, we give them way too much respect as a society.
And you know what?
A subcategory of farmer is, fishers, fishermen.
Fishermen are just farmers of the sea.
And they don't like any competition.
They don't like that there are other animals that are better at eating salmon and catching them.
Okay, but what if there is like another side of this where there are certain kinds of farmers that are working with the
sea lions scoop up all of the natural salmon so people got to turn towards factory farming
salmon and then they can sell those salmon and it's a conspiracy you know and you know the
seals run the banks oh this is this is goliath season five where billy deposes the sea lions
listen if you've been following if you've been following you know nerpas spotted seals
sea lions all of these for years you'll notice
that they've become more vocal.
They sound more and more like humans every day.
They're getting smarter.
They are basically the Chinese of the sea,
and they're taking over.
People are scared of the orcas attacking all the human boats.
But the real threat are,
because they don't need the water.
They can live on the land with us.
The orcas, they're like the huthies of the sort of cetacean world.
And the sea lions, the pinnipeds,
they're the Chinese because they can come into the country.
They can go to our universities.
We're giving them H1.
visas to
They're letting them go to
fucking med school now
Yeah
What
By the way
When was the last time
That you called
Tech Support
About a problem
With Windows
And you didn't get
A Weddle seal
Or a Nerpa
Going
What up
My
My name is John
It's like
Okay
Sure John
Um
You know
Andrew
You're one of
Your name was
Fucking Nico
Yeah
Like, Andrew, I'm glad you brought him up.
You were one of the first people to point this out.
Nico was roommates in college with one Taylor Sheridan.
Yeah.
You know, if we're speaking of people who exploit natural resources,
does Taylor Sheridan not remind you of one Wade Blackwood or a Noah Cross?
I mean, to be fair, Nico has said that, like,
Sheridan's stuff is, you know, it's middling at best,
which, you know, I agree with.
He's right about that.
And this lovely little habitat in Japan.
He said, you know, I thought hell or high water was pretty good.
I'm not so sure about Yellowstone or oil man.
He just went,
they asked Katsunori about Yellowstone.
And he actually, he made a really interesting point.
He said the racial politics are really simplified.
but that was like a great
great point you won't hear Ellen Seppinwall
say that I love the idea of like
just a seal in New York City wearing a tie with a briefcase
defending like Eric Adams
I like your
I like your comment that as the name implies
sea lions are a species that belong in the sea
well which part of the name
you know because I mean
because it sounds like they should be on the African
Velt instead of the Columbia
River. But you know what? Like, sure,
a river is not technically the sea,
but it flows into the sea. And we're like,
you know, we're saying, oh, that you can't cross
this invisible boundary, sea lion.
You have to stay away from our steelhead trout
and salmon. I denounce sea lions
are saying from the river to the sea.
But, you know,
I think, yeah, like the stellar
sea lions, they can be, they're enormous.
They can get to be, like,
Speaking of Goliath, they can be huge and they can cause damage to a Toyota Camry or even an adult human being.
But I really think that this is an opportunity here for the Pacific Northwest to become more like those towns in, like, New Zealand, where there's just one local elephant seal that bullies everyone.
And they're like, well, that's just Neil.
Got to live and be.
I mean, to be fair, like, in those cases, like, I saw a great video from New Zealand where there was a,
a New Zealand fur seal
who went into a pub
and just went into the bathroom
and he really
paying customers only dude
he was trying to do Coke all right
what else he's supposed to do it
well he was really polite he offered to buy something
first but um you know
fur seals
or um their
true or earless seal cousins
um you know they could go into a town
and be like a friendly nuisance which I
that's how Ed Kemper described himself
at one point
I don't know why I used that face
I should use a different one
A friendly nuisance
I was just interested
what they were studying
Well they do roam around
Some of them roam around like bears
There's like that one of like
I think it's a walrus or a sea line
I think it's a warrants
But this person is just
filming like this like canal
then they turn and this
this like walrus
emerges on this hut
and he goes
ugh
he just dives into the water
like the sheer power
so you don't want to mess
with them yeah
but but like
but like you know
I love sea lions
but they are like
they are like
kind of assholes
yeah they are
I still adore them
and it's like
I give them precedence
in this case
like
they live in the water
you asshole
like come on
but like they are
like if a if a
um
Um, other pinnipeds, uh, going to your town, you know, it's like a cute little story.
Sea lions are like, um, that, that's what like, uh, Breitbart thinks Turkish people in Germany
conduct themselves like, sea lions actually behave on land.
Uh, just a little, a little more details from the story here.
It says, the sea lion population exploded from less than 75,000 in the 1970s to about 257,000 today.
Megan Dugan, a spokesperson for ODFW,
said that it's a tough estimate just how many,
it's tough to estimate just how many sea lions
are in the lower Columbia River since they migrate in and out.
But the number are spotted in places like the Bonneville Dam
and Willamette Flats have increased sharply since the early 2000s.
Wildlife of Vistles tried everything
from installing barriers to underwater fireworks
and firing buckshot at the animals,
but nothing worked.
They even tried to relocate the sea lions more than 200 miles away,
but they always found their way back.
Something called migration.
That's like what animals do.
But now I think we should try shooting them with a Gatlin gun from a helicopter.
It's the only way to stop them and the only way to protect our salmon.
And it's just like, you know, once again,
I think pinnipeds, I think they get first dibs on the salmon in the rivers,
from the river to the sea.
I think the pinnipeds should be given some sort of respect and deference
over our wretched farmers and fishermen
who by the way
can't even get salmon
or grow crops without massive subsidies
from Uncle Sucker.
So, you know,
no sea lion is coming to me
with their handout
or pitching about tariffs
that they voted for.
Their competitors need
machinery, vehicles,
um,
trawler systems to catch salmon.
And the sea lions are doing it
with their mouths.
Who is more naturally suited for this?
I think what they need to do is they need to cut a deal with the pinnipeds.
Absolutely.
I think we can do a deal.
But once again, Marie Gluey, Marie Blu-Factory Perez, you are my, you are my bozo of the week.
I just imagine, like, for your murderous intent against our beautiful sea lions.
Trump is, like, meeting with them like there with Zoron in the White House for he meets like some sea line in my group.
It was just like, he was made a lot of good points.
He's actually getting a lot.
You're very sensible young man?
He's a big guy.
Big, big lion.
And he knows somebody to say, I'm like a lion.
He's doing that side to side thing.
It's just slamming its giant body into the resolute desk.
Look, he's very excited about what we got planned.
You're just seeing snippets on CNN.
Trump's in their gritting.
It's just like, bow, bow, bow, bow.
Do you think when Mary Glutenkamp Perez
Like when she gets home
To her district
She like
She goes through a ritual
Where she like takes off like her business suit
And puts on a hoodie with pre-chewed strings
Her husband's like
I've been chewing the strings for you all
We're ready for you
I got you fries
Because I know that's all you can eat
She is the first last
level one girlfriend representative she just yeah she's just one hb all the time
she is her husband's life has been an escort mission
she is barely conscious like that um who virginia fox that one who's just like peeing on her
floor she had the more more conscious than level one girlfriend mary because get Perez uh she
she gets back to gets back to home puts on a hoodie but the hood is just like a baby seal
head. She puts that over herself
and starts chewing on
what used to be, yeah, like
the sinews of its intestines, which are now
for the purposes of this story,
the strings in the baby seal head
hoodie that I'm imagining her wearing.
But, yeah, cheers
to Marie Glucamp Prevores
for this horrible.
So they want to bring like legal
clubbing to this, which is great.
It's like how they've been trying to
reintroduce gray wolves to Colorado
and all the fucking
cattle ranchers. Farmers are
like, we want to be able to hunt them. It's like
that one wolf is worth more than
your fucking life and all your cattle.
I just like, I hate farmers
so fucking love. Thank you. Thank you.
We can finally
slaughter this. The best.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, guess what, asshole?
Nuts exist.
The only, the only movie to get it.
I don't know if people saw, but I'm,
I've, I've conquered obesity
once again, like the ninth time
in my life. I'm, I'm
doing the christian bell uh point seven five of a meal a day thing for the next five years i'm
playing my next obesity streak in 2040 but until then i don't need any of the fucking bullshit you
assholes growing your stupid farms you're going to be doing you will be getting big for your
method acting as your role as randy fine in the up in 10 years yeah i'm going to be playing
Randy Fine in Terrence Malick's last
film in 2040.
But, oh, we were talking about
Farmers. The only movie to get it right was
the wrong guy with Dave Foley, where
just a small town bank
owner is trying to get ran out of town
so the farmers can replace this bank with the
farm. All the Big Honey Parbers.
It's like what's the greatest bits, but also
it's true. No, but I, Andrew,
like out west, like all those cattle ranchers,
all they want to do is just be able to like, if there's
a wolf anywhere, they want to kill it. Just
based on the off chance that it'll like it'll steal one of their cattle from one of their
thousands of cattle yeah one of there are thousands and thousands of cattle like just one of them
gets their property gets transgressed upon by these noble creatures and they have to kill all of them
uh they're scum and i'm sick of uh having my taxes subs i mean out here in colorado and the west
they just you know basically genocide at buffalo so there was like 27 left and all the existing
buffalo are from those it's like well you know you know who brought the buffalo
back to America? You know who brought the buffalo back
to a non-endangered species? That's right. The Bronx Zoo. New York City, once again,
real America, everywhere else in this country are for dogs, is for dogs, and
Loonies. Only New York represents what America truly is.
No, I won't...
Not Clooney Camp Perez and her seal murder.
Yeah. Oh, and one more thing. I did not use Ozympic.
I bought I bought a bottle
I fucking could if I wanted to
well I could have
you have a little red box on your wall
break glass of too fat
I mean I was at that point
but I bought it and then I like
I read something about how like if you
if you've had pancreatitis it can
like it can be bad and I got scared
and so just like I left that
and some of the needles they gave me on my door
I mean I would just talk to a doctor
because people that primarily take a Zempick
our diabetic who have pretty shit pancreas.
Well, I mean, it's immaterial now.
It's all about the, just get your blood.
It's immaterial now.
I don't need it anymore.
And again, I get, you know, I left it on my door.
I looked at my door.
Felix will be posting in 2026 on the chapel of Patreon, his cum gutters.
Just wait and see they'll be there.
It will be for subscribers only in 4K.
I think if you go to my most recent story, you could see them kind of poking
through the P2 shirt.
I give it another like four
like four weeks.
I would tap you up right now but could.
That's so dope.
Before they return to like their sheet
rock like state.
But anyway,
you know,
the people in my building,
they made better you
said of that Ozymbic than me.
I haven't seen a single fat child.
Take one.
Like it's Halloween.
When was that big shot?
No,
that's what I did.
That's what I did.
In case anyone's thinking of suing me,
only 40% of the people
that took them were children.
Fucking terrified.
They're going to give that to
the Rizzer, man. Oh, man.
They're stealing our chubby boys from us.
Well, the next story I want to get to
in our sort of grab bag of topics for today
is Andrew Felix. I'm wondering
did you guys get a chance to see
any of Palantir CEO Alex Carp's
appearance at the New York Times Deal Book Summit
over the past weekend? Most charismatic man on the earth.
Oh, yeah. I really, I love this guy.
he's one of my favorite guys he doesn't ignite my fight or flight at all i mean with that guy
you just like fight it's just like i can you know i'm not going to say anything because i don't want
to get anyone sued but it's just like he wouldn't be able to take on anything he is not a predator
of anything on earth except i guess maybe women he works with i don't know but yeah allegedly
when they were like when he was like doing his character sheet before he was born they were like
okay, what class are you?
And he said, I'm inventing a new one,
rapist.
Well,
speaking of fighting him,
my sister,
my sister's been obsessed with him.
She said that she wishes
that she didn't waste all that time
on Elon Musk and all these people
who are just, you know,
they're obviously like losers
and annoying.
But Alex Carp has like a special
anti-charisma and actually
anti-athleticism that is
unlike anything I've ever seen.
And she found this video
where he's he's playing with a sword
and it's not even a katana.
You have to be such an asshole
to have $18 billion and you don't
buy a katana and instead buy a weird
Chinese falter on it. He's by a private
like fuck you pal
like okay buddy. You don't even get like
a cool broad sword even like if you're going to
go European? No it's one of those like
it looks like a cemeter or something. Yeah
he looks like such an asshole. It's like
it should come with a Halloween costume. What's so cool
about him about Alex Carp is like
how do you look so much like
Taika Waititi in somehow more
annoying than him. Yeah.
Okay. Alex
was riffing on a level
that was freaking sublime at the New York
Times Deal Book Summit this weekend.
He was also moving
in a way that was very interesting.
As a human being, I just find the way
he moves to be quite
his handlers at the
Palantir were like, this is why we can't give him
Red 40. This is how he gets.
He gets the Zoomies.
he was like Travis the chimp
when they gave him Zana.
He was like, let me grab your wrist.
He was, my boy was zooming.
He looked like a geeked up Muppet up there.
But Chris, I just put a link in the chat.
Can we just play that clip real quick?
And this clip, well, this is Alex Karp
and some sort of, I don't know,
like some European TV documentary puff piece
on him in Palantir.
And he's showing the journalist
around Palantir's office.
All right, let's listen to his comments here.
And so I have,
a lot of a deep understanding and I'll get to this and deep appreciation for the German culture.
I think one of the craziest things is you have this whole thing online where people like laud the Nazis.
Like I spent a lot of time talking to Nazis, like real Nazis and like understanding what made them tick and what made them, I mean, part of the crazy thing about people allowed the Nazis nowadays is there's not a single Nazi that would ever have included them in their movement and would have shipped them off to the camps.
quicker maybe than they shipped me off to the camps
but um and uh and it's like it's uh but thing that is crazy unique about it
America okay so this is people paying attention who want a media career or planning on
having conversations with others in the future this is the perfect amount to laugh at your
own jokes if you went if you went to if you went to a restaurant and you saw this chef wasn't
eating any of his food
how likely are you to
He said more than a hockey player
In like a post game interview
You know we got a lot of good guys
Out there
We're just scoing out there
Got some good shots
Whenever they have a Dagestani fighter
Who's like English is his 27th language
Those guys are just infinitely more articulate
They talk better than the Alex
Warn infinitely better
I love like the gist of this argument though
where it's like, I actually know Herman Gehring.
You know, like, Felix.
And he said I would have made it to like 1943, at least.
Yeah, it's when he says, when he says, like, one of the, uh, one of the, uh,
one of the, uh, crazy things about people who loud the Nazis is, uh, I spent a lot of
my time talking to real Nazis.
And I was just like, what do you mean by real Nazis?
Some like ancient guy who's like in the Third Reich?
Like, what the fuck?
Do, does Palantir have like the brains of like, uh, class A war criminals just like
frozen in a vat?
And you're like, we're building an AI.
off what, yeah, of what Herman Garing might think about the people who work for us and whether they should go to the camps or not.
He just talked to like, wait, wait, you're a CEO of this huge, like, I don't know, what is ostensibly a tech company, but is really, I don't know, just like a massive, you know, like defense contractor.
And like, why is it, why, like, why do you spend so much of your day talking to, quote, unquote, actual Nazis?
Well, there was like, I don't make this much content in a week.
And that's my job.
Like, fucking Christ.
Well, how much, how do you have time to, you know, put Mangala's soul into Usha Vance's body?
Which I presume you've done.
If he was talking to real Nazis, they're only just saying shit like, they used to let us put more salt on the oatmeal.
And he's got like oxygen in.
Yeah.
He's talking to a 178 year old who's like, and you say you know where Santa Claus lives.
but um i i i spring that up you've met this hagar the horrible
we spent our entire lives trying to beat him
um i bring this up because of like i said his
shall we say very animated and a novel moving and speaking style
that was uh sort of given uh quite a public airing as part of like
you know the the palanterer's sort of front facing i don't know
public diplomacy efforts, but this has led to an interesting new initiative at Palantir that I want
to talk about. It says, this is from Business Insider. Palantir launches a neurodivergent fellowship
after video of its CEO is unable to sit still goes viral. And it says here, Palantir is launching
a fellowship for neurodivergent individuals after a video of its CEO struggling to sit still
went viral. In an ex post on Sunday night, the software company said, it's encouraging
applications from those who relate to CEO Alex Carp in being unable to sit
still or thinking faster than you can
speak. The neuroly divergent
like myself will disproportionately
shape America's future, Karp said
in a statement posted on X by Palantir.
In the job description, Palantir said
the neurodiversion fellowship
is a recruitment pathway for exceptional
neurodiversion talent. This is
not a diversity initiative. The job
description states, referencing a hot button
Tomic. Yeah.
I, I, you know, my dad
had a great, he had a great
phrase for when someone was being
annoying and we he would go oh spare me yeah and you know that i had not thought about that in like
15 years and it just it echoed through my mind when i read this that video and like this whole
thing that they're doing now do you remember like i remember like growing up and being at the
mall with my family and seeing another family and one of their kids was like on a leash i'm like
man that's fucked up there are kids that you need that's what he needs so what he needs like
this job is just someone is his handler that's like they're like spray
like lemon juice in his eyes when he gets
acting up. He, just like
how Mary Glus and Ken Perez is like the most
accomplished. You know, she's like the Shirley
Crisholm of level
one girlfriends. Alex
Carp is sort of the Jackie Robinson
of Leash Kids. He can't have
Red 40. He can't have sugar.
He's not a lot to have soda or candy.
And you're like,
they're like, that's not real. They're red 40, she's bullshit.
And then you see the kid actually eat some.
You're like, oh, his mom wasn't full of, she
was right. This kid can't have
It really affects him.
He's vibrating.
Super tonic.
That's like 5 a.m.
and you're out to sleep.
I'm like,
just go the fuck to sleep, dude.
It's not fun anymore.
He's like levitating on his side,
staring at you,
eyes at the size of dinner plates.
It looks like he's on 400 milligrams of MDMA,
even though you're both seven.
Hey,
um,
if you have any friends from growing up
who literally only ate Kraft macaroni and she is,
Ask them to apply for his job at Pellantir
Because they'll be crafting the future
Do you have a friend who
They headbutted a wall
58 times because they changed the voice actor
For Gambit on the animated X-en show
Oh, I'm on me
Have you considered putting that guy in charge
Of everyone's information
Your past and their future and free crime
Alex Karp was that kid
There was always a kid at like the 4th of July barbecue
or, you know, the cookout that was always, always wet for some reason?
That was him.
How the fuck did he get wet?
We don't even have water balloons.
It's like, fucking, January at altitude.
He's totally indoors.
You're soaking.
Why is your sun wet?
There's steam coming off of him.
His shoes are squishing.
here is i want to read the full statement this is this is what was posted to twitter from
this is a message from dr carp and now keep in mind that like this whole thing is just like
basically a hastily cobbled together reaction to like him as a like front facing figure of
this corporation uh basically seeming like he was coked to the or just on a cocktail of
insane uppers down literally bouncing up and down in his chair as he accused everyone in
the business press and Silicon Valley of being opposing him, you know, like, uh, he says here,
the neurali divergent like myself will disproportionately shape America's future. We see past
performative ideologies and perceive beauty. Sorry, someone say they already have, starting with
Columbine. We see past performative ideologies and perceive beauty in the world that still exists,
which technology and art can expose. The current LLA,
tech landscape is biased in our
favor. Is this why the cultural
elite preferred to drug us to
tether these rare abilities to the albatross
of dysfunctional ideologies?
It's like, wait a second. I hate it when
elite drug the nerily divergent.
They should be drugging themselves
before making any public appearance.
But we can see through
dysfunctional ideologies and perceive
beauty as it actually exists
and expose it with technology. It says,
Palantir will bring your talents to bear
on the West's most urgent
problems. Like the West's most urgent
problems include
the variation in texture
and sandwiches and popular food items
and loud unexpected noises.
I love the adoption. The adoption of Sodic's
arms. The adoption of
Tumblr speak and therapy speak
to like be like I can be annoying and an
asshole. There's nothing you can do about it.
Yep. Oh my God. It's everyone
like J.D. does
this so much.
He's like, you're othering Usher.
By the way, shut the fuck up, you little asshole.
By the way, speaking of Usher and J.D. Vance, this is a news blast from Fox News.
This is just the headline here.
Ringing endorsement.
Vice President J.D. Vance asserts marriage to wife, Usha, is as strong as it's ever been.
That's all I need to hear.
That's a fucking relief, dude.
Thank God.
I told her that we were on the, I talked on the phone for like four hours.
And I kept telling her that she didn't believe me.
But I was like, trust me, J.D. solid.
Osher, you're the only one for me.
You saved me with a fork incident.
That's why I'm not.
Hillbilly elegy.
I love how him and Erica Kirk look like they're like paternal twins.
Yeah.
Oh, it makes it kind of hot.
Oh, so, JD, JD, you and Erica, you ever do it in the ass?
Why don't you show us your ass, JD?
Why should you take it out?
Come on.
Oh, you're the best.
J.D. You're the boss. It should be you. Stop saying that. But back to Alex Karp and the neuroly,
the neuroly divergent vanguard, which will shape the future. I have to say, this is an ambitious
project that I'm excited to see where it goes. However, I do believe that this is at cross purposes
with another major aspect of the Trump administration and MAGA policy, which is that of
Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I know we enjoy talking about him the last
time you were with us, Andrew, but this is just from the New York Times. A federal vaccine committee took
a major step toward Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s goal of remaking the childhood
vaccine schedule on Friday, voting to end a decades-long recommendation that all newborns be
immunized at birth against hepatitis B, a highly infectious virus that can cause severe liver damage.
The devices and dysfunction of the committee making the decision, however, raised questions
about the liability of the advisory process
and left at least one critic
very concerned about the future of the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention.
So basically,
you know, HHS is
laying the ground work to get rid of
most childhood vaccinations or stagger
the schedule. I mean, like, they would say
they're working to stagger the schedule, but it's very
clear that the people advising RFK
Jr. on this, the goal is to do away
with childhood vaccinations. So
if we do away with childhood vaccinations,
who will be the neurodural
Diversion Warriors to run and found the Palantiers of the future and speak at NY Times
deal book conferences.
That's a pretty good question.
I mean,
I think it's going to go back to who it was before vaccines, which, as you know, I myself,
I am, I consider myself adjacent to a doctor through a family relation.
Before vaccines, the neurology divergent were kids who were made too warm or too cold in birth.
There by expanding or contracting their brains.
in ways that were often advantageous.
Einstein is one of such cases.
His mom was known for having an abnormally cold vagina.
And this made his brain much more efficient.
But, you know, I mean, this is a vaccine panel appointed by RFK Jr.
votes to roll back newborn hepatitis v. vaccine recommendation upending years of CDC
guidance and public health consensus.
And look, whether this will make the Palantirers of the future more or less likely,
I just think like, Felix, I was thinking about this in light of that woman you posted
the other day that said that dinosaurs were killed off by pharmaceutical companies because
their blood cures all diseases.
Well, it was dragons.
Oh, dragons.
He said dinosaurs didn't exist.
There were dragons, and dragons blood cured every disease.
Sorry, here it says, this is Aaron Siri, a lawyer who for years joined with me.
Mr. Kennedy in court battles over vaccines talked at length later in the day about the evolution
of the childhood schedule. Mr. Siri has petitioned the government to stop distributions of 13 vaccines
including the polio vaccine. So yeah, it's pretty clear what we're doing there. But I was thinking
about that, yeah, and led of the woman who thinks that, does she think that dinosaurs are fake or that
what's described as dinosaurs by paleontologists are in fact dragons that were killed off by
pharmaceutical companies around what era did this take place? Well, I actually, I match with
her on Raya so this weekend I don't know right now but I will but I don't know like I
we've talked about this before on the show but it's just like whether it's I don't know what
AI is doing just the general decline in literacy among the general population that we are moving
into like a kind of like the the peasant era we're like I'm talking about like middle class
educated people who have like I've adopted like folklorish beliefs
that, like, I don't know, the Romani people of medieval Europe, I would imagine,
would be more akin to.
But, like, this idea that, like, all expertise are all, like, the sort of, the vast,
sort of, I don't know, compendium of what is considered public knowledge or public health
is now completely and totally, like, discredited or considered completely up for grabs by everyone.
And I think that's cool and good.
Neurodivergent in the future is going to mean, like, you know, you know, you know,
know what an exponent is and you don't just say oh the main number has a friend
you know you like you can do arithmetic yeah oh he did the number had a daughter
but i i i really do like the idea that uh drag dragons were killed by pharmaceutical
companies because their blood cures all diseases well i mean is this not like a materialist
explanation i think it's this is a case of like true until true until proven fall we just
to bring back dragons like they did with those
fake dire wolves that are actually just gray wolves
of their DNA alter.
I mean, it goes
back to, like with RFK Jr., all this stuff
goes back to just, it's just
eugenics, and it's just
because the people with money and everything,
they're going to be getting their shit vaccinated.
They're going to be getting their shit vaccinated.
They're going to have the best of the best.
Everyone else, you make them stupid
and unhealthy and weak
and let them die off.
I saw Stephen McKee Miller talking about this, and she was like, this is what we voted for.
And it's like, yep, everyone believes that you and your fucking anemic husband who jammed your triple great-grandparents genetics together and created three of the most allergic killer of all time, that you are not, you are not subjecting them to a needle party when they're all a month old.
Everyone believes that.
Come on, lady.
It reminds me, this was like a couple years ago when someone asked Tucker Carlson, if he and his family,
got the vaccine and he got really indignant and was like oh why don't you ask me about the last
time i had sex with my wife if we were ever getting so personal i mean it's just like well okay
i'd also like you know of course yeah of course it's also like talk talk talker you didn't go on
tv and go you will die if you fuck my wife not because not because of what i do but there's
something really wrong with her pussy we talked to a bunch of kids that fucked her and they all
died it's like the ring
perfectly healthy athletic kids
This high school varsity team
fucked my wife
and then died in a plane crash
a week later
It's right
It's like okay
If you had
You know
lived your beliefs
That's a pretty fucking easy
easy question to answer
You know
Yeah I say absolutely not
I would never consent
To poisoning my body
Or that of my families
But if you absolutely
did get the vaccine
Because Tucker Carlson
He's a rich
Preppy kid he's not he's like he's not a jug hooter like the rest of these fucking dopes you know you know those parties you know those parties I go to where me and a bunch of guys we just take medicine and get vaccines I've seen Tucker there no shots refused no no no viral no medicine refused Tucker Carlson was at my vaccine party wearing the biggest Yamaka I've ever seen
I like how there's these people
that say all this stuff
and then like
now I just saw this week
that people were getting
like Simon Cowell talked about it
and Bryce Harper's posted about it
were yeah like the
they get the
it's plasma phoresis is what they're like
getting it's not dialysis but it's
kind of similar but it's not
dialysis. Is it like blood do?
What they'll do is a lot of the time
is they'll exchange like plasma
and they'll replace with albumin
which is like a legitimate thing
but it's usually for very sick people.
These are people that are just doing it
because they're rich.
And I think Bryce Harper is a bit of a chud,
if I remember right.
And I love how these chuds are like,
I don't believe in fucking medicine and shit.
And then they take,
they do get real,
real procedures done,
but like by cranks that are like,
I'll fucking do it if you pay me enough.
Andrew, like this is my point about the like the peasant mindset.
And it's just like obviously like much of,
I don't know,
expert or elite opinion about a lot of things
has been discredited or shown to be
compromised in some way. But it's like, I see this in like sort of, I don't know, independent media
all the time, be it left wing or right wing, where you take what should be a healthy skepticism
of quote unquote, the mainstream press or mainstream journalism. But then you translate that
into complete and utter credulity for any source of information that just brands itself as like
the outsider news. We're like a rebel journalism. It's like, no, you've just traded one,
you know, like a dopey foolish credulity
for another. And it's exactly the thing with like, oh,
I'd never believe anything doctors tell me
unless that doctor appears to me on a
social media feed. And it's like telling me to like, I don't know,
eat cow testicles or something like that.
I mean, the liver king is like for years,
I'm not in steroids. It's like,
I'm sorry, I'm on steroids.
Like, no fucking shit, dude, look at you.
But all these guys that were into fitness, like,
fuck, I thought he was natural.
I've been eating these raw liver.
Oh man
You know, I do admire Liver King
Because at least like
After he got caught he didn't
Like he did briefly try to do a thing where he's like
Okay now I'm really doing the ancestral penance
And then he had a psychotic break
That is what I admire
That he was like okay
Clearly isn't working
Message received
I'm going to go to Austin
And threaten to hold down Joe Rogan and blow him
Arrested by every agency
And Interpol
Like
You know, I respect an entertainer who throws themselves into the act as he did.
He had like one eye that was much more dilated than the other.
It's like, wow, this is kind of cool.
Like, it would be cool if like Joe Rogan like accepted his threats and was like,
all right, come fucking face me in the parking lot, dog.
Come fucking fight me, dog.
Like the classic bong fight of yesterday you are on YouTube.
Don't spit.
It's pussy.
You're honestly the softest bitch I've ever seen.
who what public figures
Andrew do you think are most capable
of reenacting the pond fight
oh no need for a rock
yeah
I think
I think it's unfortunate that Charlie Kirk
we're the ones who carry the flame
that he was taken from us
because I could see him and JD
doing the top the pond fight
they have sort of like a similar
build I think it would be
I think it would be like
Stephen Crowder
and Tilo Oliviera
And Tyler is like, no need for the rock.
Tyler is the no need for the rock guy, 100%.
Well, actually, here's a candidate.
And this segues nicely into the next story I want to talk about,
which is Milo Yanopoulos is back.
And he went on Tim Poole's show.
And Tim Poole asked him about Charlie Kirk.
Do you think there's a possibility they faked his death?
Milo says yes.
Milo claims it's possible that Charlie Kirk is still alive
and that Erica Kirk is sinister,
alleging she's an alleged.
She's, unless she's involved in a plot with TPUSA to fake his death.
He's such a genius.
I love it.
I love it.
Charlie's alive, but he just hasn't been able to, like, get to a phone for, like, two months.
Well, I mean, how does that work?
Well, he's in on it, too.
I don't know.
I mean, like, for someone to fake, I don't know, because he said, what is protection?
Because he was sick of Erica.
She's sinister.
You see all that fucking fake hair she has?
Yeah.
Oh, I mean, no.
Charlie Kirk, I mean, if TPSA faked Charlie Kirk's death, all I got to say is
hats off, because what has Matt always promoted on this show?
We need to bring back squibs.
And man, oh man, that was some good work that they did on that one there.
It looked good.
Yeah, it looked really good.
It looked really good.
It looked like a Sam Pekinpaw movie.
Speaking of Milo and Charlie Kirk, everything, and this goes back to like dinosaurs aren't
real, dragons are.
Have you seen Candice Owens' new thing?
in addition to claiming that Emmanuel Macron was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination, convenient.
You know, the same guy that's been, you know, gang-stalking and victimizing her over, you know,
trying to cover up the fact that his wife is trans.
But Candice's new thing is that all space is fake, too.
Like space exploration, the moon, space, NASA, all of it's not real.
She's just throwing it all out there now.
She's saying Fuentes is an FBI informant or something now.
she turned on him
she just fucking like everyone
she wants to smoke from everybody
I mean I
her like only friend died
I know
that was like the only person
she actually liked
and the other guy
back to the other guy
who wants all the smoke
is Milo
is Milo's back
and like Milo's new thing
is coming out
he's coming out the gate swinging
and his new thing is
basically saying
the entire conservative movement
in Washington DC
is run top to bottom
by
just sort of like D.L. gay guys who are vicious queens who care only about power and have a
hatred of humanity. But he also says, but not me. But not me though. I'm not gay. He also says no one is
gay. He says no one is gay. And he does the Wo Vicky thing. He says no one's actually gay. They
just got touched on when they were a kid. And it's a trauma response. Well, one of the people that
he's claiming is part of this network of gay guys. Once again, like as Milo, Washington, D.C. and the
conservative movement run by sort of D.L.
low guys who are vicious power hungry nihilists who don't believe in anything but not me once again
i need to clarify this not me myelianopolis i am not gay and never have been i'm recovering i don't
even know what his line is now i'm motivated by more than spite yeah yeah i'm brimming with a wholesome
love for humanity and a sincere desire to do his whole thing and help people he's helping he's being
a patriot even though he's uh you know british for america by investigating and going to
in a deep cover in the DC
GOP by just going and getting cracked
by all these guys and say, nope, yep, they're gay.
Trust me, they all fucked me.
I fucked them.
Well, one of the people who's
getting caught up in this
is an old friend to the show, Benny Johnson.
Okay, Milo, you've said some pretty ridiculous things
in your life, but this is too far.
This is...
Even we have a limit, Milo.
You know, back, you know, gas source or back it up, pal.
I mean, this could be, look, Felix, you can say it's far-fetched, right?
But, like, stranger things have happened.
If this story is confirmed, if this story is confirmed,
that it indeed is revealed that Benny Johnson is, in fact, gay.
There's no way.
This could shake the foundations of all American politics and really reality itself.
I think that's the end of the West, if that comes out.
If I were to, like, you know, there's a lot of things you can criticize for Benny Johnson for,
but I think the one thing
that people should
stop hating him on
is that he loves pussy too much.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
He's,
you know,
like Christopher Maltesante
said to Tony Soprano,
everyone knows you've been
the biggest fucking coosound.
I'm a hog for it.
What can I say?
Yeah, Benny,
you know,
this salacious
unfounded rumor
that Milo is peddling
yeah, okay, it would be one thing
if like say an ex-BuzzFeed
employee
whose name was Saeed-Jones
and is actually a pretty prominent media figure
himself who does not have a history of making
these things up
stated that he made out with Benny
at a BuzzFeed
Christmas party
it would be one thing if there were multiple claims
like this, stories that everyone
who is within even
like 20,000 miles of conservative media
has heard dozens of stories.
But that's just not the case.
You know, that's just not the world we live in.
Well, this is from Yahoo News here.
It says, conservative commentator Benny Johnson
appears to be gearing up to sue Milo Yanopoulos
after the British provocateur
claimed Johnson's family man image is bogus.
And then in an open secret,
he has slept with boys at political conferences.
I am duty bound to take action
to protect my family against those
who maliciously defame and attack us.
More to come on that soon, Johnson posted on X Sunday.
The potential lawsuit comes two days after Yanopoulos accused Johnson of being a not-so-stelf gay man on Tim Poole's podcast.
Quote, Benny Johnson posts pictures of his children every two days.
It's weird.
And everybody knows what went on with Benny Johnson in those lobbies and in those hotel rooms at S-A.
Unopolis said, referring to Turning Point USA's annual student action summit.
Everybody knows.
His guest on the episode recently fired ex-congressman George Santos said he did not know what he was talking about.
quote men younger men not underage at least i don't know that his wife was crying drunk in the lobby three
asses in a row about how her husband was upstairs with boys come on santo said go ask her
yonopolis yelled milo are you ever scared of getting sued santo's marveled yonopolis said he is
not worried about it because he is right and always has his facts straight okay but all of those
sases those guys are known to bring xboxes and have a halo land that's all they were doing yeah yeah
They were having...
Benny was doing that
because otherwise
he would be,
he'd be on tender
getting some more tuna.
Yeah.
Talk about someone
who's eating all the
fucking salmon
in the northwest and northeast.
Mary Glucon,
Camp Perez should do a presentation
about Benny.
Do you remember...
Okay, I haven't mentioned
this on like that,
but you remember Benny Johnson's
Wes Anderson-themed wedding
announcement video?
You are cordially invited
to Benjamin and Caitlin's wedding.
They live in Washington,
D.C.
this is the intern housing where they met
how could I forget
it's one of the
I mean I you know
it's to me it's it's one of the great
like short films of all time
it is so special to me
it is so wonderful
it's such a magical magical thing
and what I love about it
is that it's just also
it's so clear how much he loves his wife
you know
Will we're too
we're two like
plurality heterosexual men
Andrew two
we're all at least like 40%
30%
the number one thing we've all done
is plan our wedding
since we've known each other.
Felix,
I finish us about it every day.
We,
you know,
the group chat goes crazy
every weekend when like,
you know,
like a new wedding collection
is revealed.
Like,
what sort of plates
are we going to have
at the wedding?
This reminds you
of what Cory Booker
was running for president?
Oh,
yeah, yeah.
Oh,
there hasn't been a white house
wedding in 200 years.
We sent each other
celebrity wedding photos
in our group chat
and we say,
she went with that neckline,
really?
yeah
yeah
well
honey you don't have
the clavicles
for that
well speaking of
uh
speaking of uh
being catty
and being catty
i i
i got to ask you about this
my fellow movie mindset brother
i do want to talk about the
proposed uh netflix
warner brothers merger
and then the proposed
paramount net warner brothers
hostile takeover funded by
Saudi sovereign wealth funds.
But before he gets to that, speaking of being a catty bitch, Andrew, I got to ask,
what do you make of Quentin Tarantino's latest shooting spree,
racking up victims like Paul Dano and Matthew Lillard as he slams them for their...
Dude, why does he eat Matthew Lillard?
I don't know.
What did Matthew Lillard do?
I don't know.
Be amazing in his one scene in the descendants, you asshole?
I know, like, he just says, like, he said, Paul Dano is the, the weakest actor in the sad card, yeah.
I got a shout out, I got to shout out our friend of the show, Nate Fisher, a writer and star of Ephes.
His Tarantino posts always kill me.
And he did a new one this weekend where it was just like, Tarantino talking about a movie.
And it's like, the movie is good luck Chuck.
And he's like, good luck Chuck.
Good luck Chuck.
God, the Chuckster.
That's a hell of a picture.
Except for Jessica Alba.
She's a dish rack.
Sorry, one more of Nate Fisher's Tarantino quotes.
This is Tarantino.
Look, look, all right.
I really, I really love the fly.
That is a gross fucking movie, man, okay?
But, like, there are other Carnabug movies,
like, you know, Scanners, the Brood, Dead,
and then in parentheses, suddenly remembering
he had jerked chicken for lunch,
now talking like Sebastian the Crab.
Dead ringers, big on the islands, man.
I just, like, on one level, like, I think it's kind of funny that, like, so it's like, nobody, like, who engages in film criticism these days, like, ever slams anyone anymore, but, like, Paul Dano and Matthew Lillard catching strays this egregiously just seems to be, like, I don't know, because, like, I don't know, I guess I'm not like the biggest Paul Dano guy, but, like, he's, he's good, like, just for someone in Quentin's position.
fucking good actor.
Like it's for someone in Clinton's position to like someone who's like such a celebrated
and well respected director who everyone loves to just come out and just egregiously shit on
an actor.
It's just it's so mean.
Like there is like everyone acting, everyone in Hollywood acting like he fucking killed Paul Dano
is kind of funny.
But also like I'm like glad that everyone is kind of being like, quit shut the fuck up, dude.
Like he's always been a problem.
He's always been annoying.
He's always been a fucking dumb ass.
But, you know, and
People are just sitting up with his shit.
He just sitting there kicking his feet in, like, Tel Aviv.
And it's just like, Quentin, please, for the love of God, shut the fuck up.
Any criticism I level at Quentin Tarantino will just seem like cope because of his,
let's just say, current associations with a certain country.
I'll leave it there.
But, like, yes, he has always been, to quote, you know,
Nate's moniker Bozo mode to a capital degree.
But he does happen to be one of the most talented directors of his generation.
I can forgive him for being
a catty, messy bitch
to Matthew Lillard and Paul Dando.
What I will not forgive Quentin Tarantino for
is placing Black Hawk down
as the number one best movie of the
21st century. Oh, go fuck yourself.
Dude. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. You should kill yourself.
Especially with like all the current stuff
about Somalis. Yes, I know. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Fucking.
He's one of those guys
He's so annoying where like I like listen I know will you're a big QT fan myself I've always thought he was good but I don't really rewatch his stuff not like the biggest fan of some of his stuff whatever that's just my opinion but now with like everything it's just like man I don't even want to like watch anything you make like he's one of those guys like it's just like man I'm just over it like I've just I don't care anymore because he's so
annoying.
Well, I just think like...
He's like, he was incredible, man.
Like, that's the top 10 of the past century, like.
Wait, waiting is the type of movie that people in 1920s would have fucking cream themselves
and they could see it.
I posted...
I posted...
Dean Cook had his screen presence and a command presence.
Unseeing since Orson Wells had a 32-inch waistline.
People got really mad at me because I said he wasn't in the...
top 30
best American directors
the people are like
you can't even name
30 American directors
I was like bitch
like you know
yeah you're bringing a knife
to a gunfight friend
and I had people going
oh Demi is not better
than QTM like that
bullshit not to me
Demi's the man
but it's like yeah
it's just I mean it's all opinion
it's all subjective
but it is crazy
like Nancy Lillard
SLC punk hackers
Shacky
Twin Peaks of Return
scream
yeah
Descendants?
Scooby-Doo, the descendants.
See, Matthew Ler just seems like one of those guys that's like, everyone likes him.
Like, I've never heard someone like, you know, he's never going to be heralded as like, oh, he's like the next Pacino or something like that.
But like, he's always a welcome presence.
But the way it's the way character Tino talked about like him and like Dano is that they're like weird, nerdy guys.
It's like you're the weirdest, weird and nerdy.
Yeah.
You're, he's seen himself.
Yeah, no, exactly.
That's why he has to be like, you know.
You've seen that cup of George Cleet talking about when, uh, uh,
Tarantino was like, we could be like twins.
Like, we could be brothers.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
George, he was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I mean, yeah, like, again, this reminds you the, uh, Swalwell Cash thing from last week.
This is like the entire country now is like two kids who are both an anime club, but one kid is like,
you're like a, you're like a fucking anime club loser.
Not like me.
The vice chair of anime club.
club? It's like how
it reminds me of when I was
a kid, not
she wasn't always married to him, but he
eventually died, but she was married to a
millionaire for a while. And my dad worked
for a while after the Air Force.
He once told my dad, who was much for religious,
especially at the time than this guy.
He told my dad, if we were
in God's army, I'd be a general and you'd be a
private. It's like, what are you talking?
That's crazy,
rich guy, I think you say, but that's serious
I mean, I think I've said things like that, but it's been in good fun.
And you know what?
Like, like, like, I'm leaving aside his work as a, as a director, right?
As an actor, he's unbearable.
He's unbearable as an actor.
He's just saying a certain word.
Pulsive.
Yeah, yeah.
Word really well.
You know, and it's just like, I think his, I think his level of being annoying and being
bozo mode has like, like.
almost put him on a level of like
Polansky with me in terms of like
how much I have to like turn
look away from or just like
or just ignore to continue to love his movies
I mean it's like at this point it's almost like
Vincent Gallo is more likable
100%
Buffalo 66 is a great movie
Vincent Gallo at least like
lets people buy his sperm if they're so inclined
yeah
if you're looking for
stocking stuffers.
Tarantino would release his sperm
like that would hang out on that
Barton Schroleth
Wait, Felix, I have to correct you
Vincent Gallo will not let just
anyone buy his sperm.
You have to be white.
Okay, he made that very clear
in the bitch.
I apologize.
Yeah, but he's not even white.
It seems Gallo.
It was a bit salty.
That's all I have to say.
I was thinking about
the Benny Johnson lawsuit.
And again, you know.
Well, it's definitely going forward.
I'm sure he's definitely
going to pull the trigger
on that lawsuit and definitely sue Milo
for saying, you know, and
literally putting it in a libel case about
am I gay or not?
That's the, that's the thing that's likely
to happen. I can't think of anything
he's less terrified of than
Discovery. But
I was thinking, you know, like
Goliath season 8. And
Billy, Billy is Milo's
lawyer. But then Cooperman,
like now an AI, William
Hurt is on any side.
Because Cooperman McBride would obviously
be with like
the conservative movement
I always
I always want
but Cooperman
is like
doing his usual
monologue
if he's like
a bottom feeder
like McBride
can't just be
left in the
can't just be
fucked in the ass
and left a bleed
out in an alley
click
click click
McBride
has to be
fucked in the ass
every hour
of every day
until it becomes
his standard
of living
and he does not
know a time
when he was not
fucked in the ass
click click
click
and then Benny
uh
goes, would it help
if I pretended to be this McBride guy?
Would you like me to
for like a role play strategy thing?
You know what?
Speaking of libel cases.
I just wanted to say really quick
that I always wonder if your fans,
Chapa fans,
hear Felix's current show
he's watching and he makes up a season eight
like I gotta watch this fucking show
now. You're like mind of JSON with shows.
By the way, to all our listeners,
To follow Felix for the next couple weeks of this show,
start watching the Billy Bob Thornton show, Goliath on Amazon now.
Fuck, I got to get on fucking Goliath, though.
I really used to, like, pride myself that I watched, like,
real movies and shows and read real books.
And then just, like, you get through a certain,
I just turned in my dad.
I mean, you know, I just, I just love every, like, pulpy show
where, like, a 72-year-old actor who I love,
who fortunately has enough gambling debts where they have to be on an Amazon
on Prime Original.
And I'm like,
this is awesome.
It's the greatest show ever made.
I love Billy Bob.
Billy Bob is one of my favorite actors ever.
And I feel like a deep empathy for him.
Ever since I saw him, when I was a kid,
when he went on David Letterman,
and Letterman was like,
hey, how about this Oscar-nominated movie?
Monsters Ball that you're in
that everyone's talking about.
And is part of a huge Academy Awards campaign
that the studio is putting together.
And Billy Bob is like, can we talk?
about my incredibly shitty band instead and it's like i know exactly how he feel i know oh yeah dude
billy bob i felt so bad for billy bob he sung billy bob sung backup vocals on warren zvon's last
album i love i i felt so bad for him seeing uh angelina jolly ovulating wearing his blood around
her neck like a fucking vampire yes i felt so bad for him that that is not that is not that is not
Remember when he said we fucked in the car on the way over here?
He did not, like, he did not think he was getting into that.
Billy Bob Thornton, like, I've, you know, I've been in, in thousands of locker rooms in my day.
I can tell just by his build, he has a 19-edge cock.
I mean, he's always had that confident swagger to him.
Yeah.
He looks awesome.
It's that time of the year.
Bad Santa, one of the greatest Christmas movies.
Oh, I love that Santa.
Jesus, are you fucking with me?
I fucking love that movie.
Bad Santa is one of the.
top 10 American comedies ever made.
Easily.
I saw that in the, saw that opening week with my sister in theaters.
That would, what a fucking great movie.
No, like, how could I fall on my head?
John Ritter is great than that too.
It's also one of those weird.
It's like Lauren Graham.
What a great cat.
It's one of those Cohen brother movies where it doesn't feel like a
a Coen brother movie because it isn't really,
but also is.
But it's like, man, they really can work outside what they like to do and make
stuff that's good.
I just love the level.
human misery and degradation that bad santa like it gets to a depth that like very few american
movies are like have to have the bravery to touch that's exactly it gives me that jesus
it was proto jody hill stuff like proto eastbound proto uh yeah yeah exactly you know just depraved
americanism or like what's that fucking movie red rocket oh yeah yeah yeah yeah like say shan bakerish
too sorry just to get on my bed senate the last thing i was going about bed center
my favorite part in Bad Santa
is like after they do the first job
in the beginning of the movie
and Billy Bob's like he spells out his dream
which is did you take the money from the heist
and open a bar in Florida and like
you know just sort of hang out there
and then it cuts to like nine months later
and you see him behind this bar in Florida
and he's like making drinks and everything looks cool
and you're like oh his dream came true
and then you find out he's just stealing liquor
from the bar when the bartender comes back
and he's like you asshole what the fuck can I tell you about
get bar in the bar
Anyway, before I went, I interrupted,
you're talking about rivalries, Will.
Yeah.
Like, great rivalries.
I'll forget what we were going into.
Oh, I was talking about libel lawsuits.
Oh, my God.
Lauren Tom, who was in season two and three and four of Goliath,
was also in bad Santa with Billy Bob.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
Branson loves to make fun of,
he doesn't like he always just references
people who watch burn notice I'm like
I fucking love to burn notice
what the last show shot on film
shot on location practical effects
you know Bruce Campbell
what's her face the Irish chick is
the chick people for her
show band glugora
where the fucker can't do it was a lot like one of the last
like classic kind of serial shows that was just on during the
summer and it was a fucking blast
Okay, yes, this is where I was going.
I said I wanted to talk about the proposed Warner Brothers Netflix merger.
Yes.
But now there's like a proposed paramount.
The Ellison family, very politically connected to Donald Trump, is backed by Gulf sovereign wealth funds are proposing a hostile takeover of Warner Brothers.
Now Warner Brothers is like, you know, Wacko, Yaco and Dot are caught in this kind of like tug of war between two titanically evil media.
Do you want Big Z or do we want Ellison?
Well, this is from a semaphore.
this reporting says,
finger pointing in Washington
as Paramount goes hostile.
And it's talking about like
how basically like
paramount, it says Paramount executives
met with Donald Trump in recent weeks
to press their case
and to argue against a Netflix victory
according to a person with knowledge of the meeting.
Federal Communications Chair Brennan Carr was among
those who attended the meeting, but when Trump asked him
about his view on the deal, he demurred saying it would
likely be decided by the antitrust division
of the Justice Department. I mean, Trump had
a public statement today where he said
the Netflix Warner Brothers deal would be bad
from an antitrust perspective
because they'd be very big
and it's not so great for consumers.
I mean, obviously he's doing this
out of a principled stand
against media conglomeration, I'm sure.
But there is one detail
in speaking of libel lawsuits
in the semaphore reporting on this
that certainly caught my eye.
It says here, both sides are scrambling
to hire the right allies in Washington.
One person familiar with the competition
said both sides had approached
former Trump campaign aide, Jason Miller,
who is now an advising and
on the paramount side of the deal.
Now, when I saw this, look,
either side would be lucky to hire a gentleman of his character,
of his stature, of his reputation.
I just will say, I don't care who gets Warner Brothers
at the end of the day, but if Jason Miller's involved,
I know the deal will go smoothie,
and no poison pills will be slipped into it
to potentially kill this baby before the deal is done.
So, best of luck to Warner Brothers on whoever decides to
loot their carcass
and what is left of
the entertainment business
I mean at this point
at this point I'm just like
I'm pro Fox
you know which Disney owns now right
but like Tooby that's all I need now
you got Tooby and Canopy you're good
we don't need Netflix we don't need HBO
you just need those
I guess like when the original
deal was announced over the weekend
there was a lot of like there was a lot of
sort of a pal a poll cast
over you know people who like movies or certainly
enjoy the theatrical going to the movie theater that this really signal is like the death of
movies and i know this is something that like people have been broadcasting or sort of um
speculating about for quite some time now but and i did want to get your perspective on this
as a fellow a fellow movie brother like what do you like do you think that like they've been dying
for years yeah it's like this is not new yeah do you see this as just sort of like the capstone
on like the death of cinema in american culture or like movies as an art form or is that
too pessimistic and then it'll just like I think it's I don't know it could be I think it's like definitely
one of the nails in the coffin I don't know if it's the final nail see like I think it'll just change
because like I don't know assuming I live to like you know the average life expectancy of a man of
you know my cohort and all that like I still expect people to be making and watching movies when
I die but kind of similar I feel like I was thinking something you said a while ago about like
literacy in America like books will still be around people will still
be able to read, but like kind of similar, I think
where where movies is going, is that it's
just going to be kind of this like niche
kind of, I don't know, habit trail
of the upper classes.
Or just like, like a certain, like, it'll just
be like, it'll be like what the
opera is now, you know?
Exactly. Yeah, it's just like, they've been
like abandoned wear for years now,
like video games where like
the digitization of everything
kind of had been killing it for years.
But then you also have times like,
Things happen where, like, the pandemic happened.
Then people are like, oh, it's so nice to go to the movies again.
It's like, motherfucker, you weren't going, but I'm glad you're going.
And I do think there are instances like Barbenheimer was a big event.
People were excited to go to the movies.
I think the avatars show that worldwide, people go to the movies.
So I don't know if it's like, if it's just going to be a problem here and be worse here,
or if it's just going to, you know, perpetuate.
and just for maybe because like
there'll be movie
the Warcraft movie like
they're going to end like theatrical windows
for first release movies
right
like I think if the Netflix merger
goes through I think that's what's likely to happen
which will kill most movie theaters
and like I don't know
I think like there will always be people
as long as I'm alive I'm confident
that there will always be people making movies
people who love movies
and that like movies will continue to be
an art form I mean like there's nothing that guarantees
any one particular
form of art like lasts forever and indeed like most all of them don't that but like that being said like
the thing that concerns me is that every single person who owns the entertainment business in america now
or who is getting in a piece of it despises art of any kind like just like not only just doesn't
like it but like doesn't understand it on a very basic level like they do not like movies they
don't go to the movies themselves they don't like watching them they don't get it and i think
they have utter contempt for anyone who does.
My only thing is like I'm hoping that at some point people that are huge names in
Poland a lot of money, people like James Cameron or people of the past like Steven Spielberger
are still very much around and active will like, I don't know, rally or maybe start their own
companies to, it won't work as big as because they won't have the money for it.
But like I hope that people start kind of branching out and being like,
that we don't even want to have to deal with these studios or production companies we're just
going to fund her own stuff like they start dumping all their money into that stuff
scorsacee like they can only do so much but i feel like we're going to see more pushes from
people like them too because they don't want things to die and they don't know what to
fucking we we personally know people that try to sell stuff productions movies and like i don't want
to fucking sell this to netflix because i don't want to deal with netflix i don't want to release
under Netflix. And then they have that
speed bump. But
I'm hoping that there are like
more options that open up.
But I don't know. That's like the most hopeful
I could be. I mean, I don't know. Maybe like
a system like sort of like what Great Britain has
where like they have a national lottery but it goes
to fund their British film industry
and not like we do here in America.
It goes to fund like schools.
You know? Like I think we should be
we should be funding schools through taxes
and then like our film industry through
things like the lottery. Yeah. Or like Canada gives a good
If gambling is just going to be legal,
if betting on sports now is legal everywhere,
I think that it should just be like a one cent tax
on all online sports bets that are placed in this country
that goes into a giant fund to promote and fund
and produce and distribute the work of like actual filmmakers.
It's insane. It's insane that we legalize gambling
without something like that,
without like a fucking one to five percent tax
that subsidizes some cultural, educational,
some type of youth project.
I don't know, the gyms in every zip code thing.
Like something that isn't like...
Something.
Something that isn't of like
the utmost dire importance to like the functioning
of a society, of a civilization,
like the things that you'd want taxes to go for.
But like an additional small tax on things that are vices
to fund things that are perhaps not like
life and death and importance, but I would say still
very, very integral to like, I don't know,
having a culture.
Like being a country.
being a real country
that has anything to be proud of
or you know
that people can enjoy
or feel a part of it.
We used to be a country
our millionaires
and richest people
were psychos like Howard Hughes
where all they wanted to do
is make movies.
Big movies, right?
Yeah.
Fuck actresses.
And he did it.
So what you want about the Aviator
but he did that.
And then he just sat there
with the tissue on his cock
watching his favorite movies
over and over.
I station zebra right?
When he's a TV channel
and only play it?
all 24-7.
There are no more Ted Turner's.
There's no, like, the only guy
who's even close,
I'm just going to go ahead and say it,
one Mr. Jeffrey Bezos,
who through his money-wasting
practices at Amazon Prime Video,
hell, you may have a show like Goliath.
Yeah, pal, you may
have just about the worst taste in any human
being I have ever seen,
but between what you've done with Amazon Prime
video and that time when the Saudis tried to blackmail you,
and you said,
here's my adequate cock
and my wife's beautiful Volvo
that was awesome
I love that
you've earned your way into purgatory pal
oh the rest of you
fuck you die
straight to HE double hockey sticks
for them
yeah that's it for me
I don't have much more today
but um
oh Andrew what's your favorite movie of the year
what's the what's the Andrew Hudson
number one best movie of the year
in your hmm well
I'm looking forward to seeing Marty Supreme
very excited
but I gotta wait
that could be
comment but I think my favorites
were probably
Eddington and probably one battle
I know it's basic
but you know
I mostly just watch old shit
I think I watched
a good amount of new stuff this year
but there's still a lot
I still have to see
those are my favorites so far
this year
and I would say
Eddington tied with Wicked too
I will
I've not seen Wicked for good yet
no I didn't see it
I will echo you.
Eddington was great.
One battle after another, though, to me, takes the cake.
However, I have seen Marty Supreme.
I know.
It's a five bagger.
It's fucking great.
Very worth seeing.
But the other one, I'm going to shout out.
Kiyoshi Kurosawa is Cloud.
Excellent.
A deeply evil and beloved movie.
I loved it.
See Cloud if you get a chance.
I will see Cloud, and I need to see no other choice.
Like I said, I'll get to it.
I don't get to live in New York City or Los Angeles.
Angeles like you celebrity guys where they just like, yeah, you want to watch this
today on a Tuesday morning? Sure. But, you know, sometime I'll get to it. I feel like a
foreign country not living in New York. Well, that's because everywhere else in the country
is a foreign country. As I said before, only New York City is real America. Everyone else is
an invader, a pretender. Why don't we make a compromise where we just make all the United States
New York City? Okay. I'm going cool with that. I'm fine with that. The sixth borough.
for anyone wondering my movie of the year
was 2018's
Dragacost Concrete
which I saw last week
You just saw that for the first time
Yeah
Such an evil movie man
What of the great evil movies
I've ever seen?
It is so evil like oh my God
I loved it
He is a genius
The inspiration that Henry has
What he realizes is like
What a fucking stupid asshole Richmond is
Like they were so close
To be able to tell themselves
like okay I guess it could have
technically gone worse
they were so fucking close
like god what a fucking great
movie oh I
one of my favorites
uh yeah I think he's a
I think that director is like
Taylor Sheridan we hear his like
an absolute psychopath in real
I know you know what I don't care
because like Taylor Sheridan
Taylor Sheridan like he's not capable
well I just I just mean like
they there's stuff because I've seen all that guy's movies
and I've seen a lot of Taylor shares before
I'm just like
this is evil
this stuff is evil
but you know
you see you need some evil stuff
I mean it's like it's like
it's like Edmund Burke where it's like
conservative it's conservative
but like the bet like the morally best
lead well like he also did
he did a what was it
what is the cell block
99 yeah that was great
in cell block 99
yeah we're just like
white guy at the big cross
bald white got the cross
of the back of his head
just killing Latinos
it's like
the idea that Vince Vaughn
is doing this
is hysterical
but I haven't seen that one yet
I'll see that
you see that in bone tomahawk
get the whole S-cray
I've actually seen bone tomahawk
okay yeah that whole experience
I saw that one
that was great
no but like
there's something about
dragged across concrete
just like
the overwhelming
like oppressive just feel
of like degradation
evil and cruelty in that movie
is, but like,
but presented in a very cold
and methodical way is like,
that's what I mean,
like he's,
he's conjuring up some dark arts in that movie,
but it is fucking,
like,
the level of control that he has over everything in it
is so fucking good.
I thought about those first two Henry scenes
and how just incredibly uncomfortable they are
because he's such an unknown quantity at that point.
And just how much,
he does this a lot,
but he really,
let's it shit just like linger and cook
in those first two Henry scenes.
And before you really know
what this guy's deal is,
you kind of are dreading what this guy
is capable of.
That's what there's that release valve
with that brother.
The overwhelming, oppressive climate
of dread in that movie is
like it's exfixated.
But like it takes,
like I said,
you need a master's level of control
to do that.
And he definitely,
you know what is an evil movie?
What?
That guy's movies,
you know,
made. I haven't seen all of them in a while
but a movie that's
evil by someone I truly love
Map to the Stars by Cronomberg
it is so fucked
oh my god. That's another
perfect example of exactly
what I'm talking about. Of just like
oh skin like
you feel filthy watching
like the scene
where the fucking kid at the child actor
accidentally shoots that dog
oh oh
profoundly slimy
mean movie.
The movie I watched before
Drive to Cost Concrete
is I finally saw the
director's cut of the movie Payback
one of my favorite movies.
Oh wow.
That came out in 2006.
I'd never seen it before.
And I would
There are things that are great
about the director's cut,
though I would say
I probably prefer the original.
But payback
and for anyone who has read
the novels with the character Parker.
Yeah.
Even though they call them Porter
in the movie.
What I liked about
Drag to Cause Concrete
is that Ridgeman
He's like a perfect opposite mirror image
To Porter
Where Porter is like slick
And oddly deliberate
Despite being kind of like a thug
Ridgeman is plotting
He's such a fucking stupid
annoying asshole
He pretty much never says the right thing
In any given situation
But there was a lot of
Payback is one of the most
visually distinct movies I've ever seen
and there was a lot of
I thought there were a lot of commonality
visually between the two of these movies
yes but what do you think of the
2003 John Wu paycheck
with Ben Affleck? I like it.
It comes up. Not a bad movie. That's not a bad movie.
It's not a bad movie. I kind of
like that movie. Yeah. I feel like
kind of good. I always laugh
when Ben Affleck goes when Ben Affleck
explains his job and he's like
I'm the best at
putting things together backwards
but it's a, like, it's a good movie.
I mean, it has a crazy cast,
Ben Affleck, Aaron Eckert,
Uma Thurman, Paul Giamatti,
Colm Fior, Joe, Joe Morton,
Michael C. Hall?
What? In 2003?
Well, I guess I was like,
right after, uh, six feet under,
a very evil show.
Um, we don't have to go under that.
All right.
Well, that does it for a little,
a little brief movie mindset.
Um, my apologies to have,
yeah, if you like movies,
check out, uh,
Alex Branson's the Money Wars,
which you can hear on episode one,
read by Will Menacher.
Oh, yeah, I'm reading the next segment of it.
I remember I have to record that.
All right.
Let's wrap it up for today there, boys.
That's another episode in the can.
Once again, thanks so much to Andrew Hudson
for hanging out with us today.
And everyone, please like and subscribe to episode one.
We will be doing a Banner Brothers spinoff of the Money Wars as well.
Oh, I can't wait.
And yeah, check out the Money Wars,
read by myself
and Adelana
on E1, the Patreon,
subscribe, like, learn, listen.
Okay, that does it for today's show, everybody.
Until next time.
Bye-bye.
Working on a plan
to save our home
keep us out of the poor house
pay off those loans
I'm working on a plan
to save our home
keep us out of the poor house.
the poor house and I won't do it stone I sit with the grannies at the nickel machines and pull handles till my hands are blue
