Chapo Trap House - 995 - The Numerology Guys feat. Alex Nichols (12/15/25)

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Alex joins us to talk about Bari Weiss’s bizarre interview with Erika Kirk, Trump’s #PACKWATCH response to Rob Reiner’s death, and Candace Owens’ feud with just about every single member of Con Inc. over her bestie’s legacy. After a brief grab bag of new Epstein photos, we finally stage an intervention for Rod Dreher, who is currently having his artistic voice deteriorated by the stuffy losers at The Free Press. By popular demand, ¡No Pasarán! Matt Christman's Spanish Civil War is back both for a second round of orders and an ebook. PLUS: everything is still 20% off for the holidays! Order now at https://chapotraphouse.store/ Year Zero: A Chapo Trap House Comics Anthology is also 15% off at badegg.co. Through end of year purchases of the book also include a free digital version of the comic. The digital version also available through GlobalComix. Follow the new Chapo Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chapotraphousereal/

All right All I want to be is a joke All I want to be is a chop We need problems and places Hello, everybody. It's Monday, December 15th, and this is George Shapo. On today's episode, it is me, Felix, and Alex is back with us. What's up? And let's kick things off today.

We'll say a good weekend for bad news. We've got a mass shooting in Australia, mass shooting at Brown University, and the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, apparently by their son. And that's where I'm going to begin today because this tragic event has produced one of the most insane things Donald Trump has ever said. And it's what everyone's talking about this morning. So I'm just going to read President Donald Trump's statement posted on truth social about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife. Michelle.

When they go? Rob Reiner and his son, whatever happened there? Whatever happened? A tortured and struggling. I mean, I don't know if tortured and struggling would ever be words anyone would describe to Rob Reiner. I mean, maybe I don't know. Maybe he was really going through it.

He was 78 years old. He's not a peak capability. He wasn't like doing heroin at Chateau-Mermont. if he was he could have bonded with his son he was like doing fundraisers for like chastin's new book that's struggling but like not in the way that trump means this the whole thing is like really funny in light of like the erika kirk thing well we'll get to that i was going to this is this is awesome yeah great move wait maybe maybe tortured and struggling was referring to the spinal tab sequel that was not all that great apparently wasn't blowing the

door is off. But yeah, so let me just say this here. Okay. A, but once very talented

movie director and comedy star has passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive,

unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS. He's just taking credit for it. He's taking credit for it.

This is what you want to do if you're president, if you're really like any type of public figure, if you're us, if you are defended at another murder trial, if there's like a horrible, tragic, grizzly double murder that's like totally unrelated to you, you should like make fun of it in a way that makes it sound like you, you ordered it, basically. Be like, hey, everyone, I offered his son a Graham. I mean, or it makes it sound like a Trump supporter was the one who killed them. I mean, it's just, it's a fucking awesome move.

Yeah. Even the people like, you know, dope pedophile 12 are like, this is kind of fucking nuts. Yeah. Like, this is not a popular one. It's so unforced. Yeah. And it's a guy that the young Republicans don't really give a fuck about. Like, they're not mad at Rob Reiner.

Because why would you be? It's like raging about like Jeff Tidrick. Yeah. If he's 78, he just posts corny boomer shit. So, like, I love the idea that a Trump supporter would kill him. and it would be awesome it would be based this 78 year old guy

who like nobody really listens to he just has generic Hollywood opinions it's like one more of those guys it's like I don't know if Tony

Danza is a MAGA guy but like if he was and he like got hit by a train and Joe Biden was like another stupid day go down Scott Bayo

you're next asshole I'm finishing this yeah he says he was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, which

is, which with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with the Golden Agent of America upon us perhaps like never before. May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. Okay, okay, good.

I'm glad he clasped it up at the end, you know? Yeah, yeah. I was worried for a second, but he really pulled it out there. Crosse as crass and insensitive to murder victims, yeah. Jesus fucking Christ. A day after, not even, it was like six hours. Six hours after the Erica Kirk TV special, where, by the way, I've never seen a woman do this,

but Erica Kirk, I don't know if it's because she learned how to speak English by watching some shitty show like Castle when she was 31. But her, like, her slow speaking pace and her, like, crazy. crazy, like, fucking snakey look in her eyes. She reminds me of one of those enormous children in middle school that thinks that if they concentrate hard enough, they get mad enough, they can, like, telepathically blow up someone's mind like it's manners.

But I've never seen a woman act like that. That's pretty nuts. That's Charlie, you can tell a stupid fucking Charlie was because he always thought Erica was like the smartest person ever. And she's a real dunce. I mean, yeah, that's the next thing I want to talk about. certainly in light of the new standard that we're all adhering to,

which is that you can never make fun of anyone who gets murdered. And the Barry Wice Erica Kirk interview on CBS. That was doing gangbusters this weekend. And, you know, Tackle your sentiments, Felix. Erica's not really ready for prime time. Like, she's not good on camera. She's really not good on camera.

Charlie said, Charlie Kirk said one time on a show, you know, actually my wife's more extreme than me. did he mean extremely socially anxious? Because that's the vibe I'm getting. Erica, take a clonopin. You're freaking me out. When she said, this is the first murder that took place

in the age of social media. Can we get a fact check, dumb, dumb? It's just like her very clipped manner of speaking. Chris, you made a good point about this. You said that, like, she knows she needs to perform this kind of serious grief with a political angle, but all of her, like, media training experiences

come from, comes from being a beauty pageant contestant. And, like, she wants to talk about, like, you know, hate rots your soul. But, like, it comes across, like, she's saying, now I'm ready for the evening gown competition. Yeah, her pace of speaking is so fucking weird. It really, like, if you watch one of those shows, like Rosolian Isles, that's how the characters talk.

We need to solve this case. I mean, the other incredible thing to me was Like, okay, like this was promoted so heavily by the new Barry Weiss CBS News And the idea that they were like, this is what America needs to hear You know, an exclusive interview with Charlie Kirk's widow after she started up Person Of the last couple months She did, she's done like 16 podcasts in like the week leading up to this interview

She's not a hard get This is from the, uh, the, the, the CBS news, this is a write-up of the interview. It says here, Erica Kirk says someone of her late husband's controversial comments shared widely in the wake of his assassination lacked context and that he should not be deteriorated to a few sentences.

I mean, is this not a person who learned English well in two or 30s by watching TBS? They don't want any of Charlie Kirk content out there. It's so bizarre. Like when Martin Luther King died, they put the speeches everywhere. They teach every school child

the speeches he gave. But Charlie Kirk, like, you can't say anything. The only thing you can talk about is his coffee. The mid-majority with two honeies. That's all you can talk about. Weiss asked Erica Kirk about some of those much shared comments

that some gun deaths are worth it to protect the Second Amendment, that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake, and that if he sees a black pilot, he's going to be like, boy, I hope he's qualified, while acknowledging that's not who I am, that's not what I believe. Erica Kirk said she'd love for people to watch the full clips instead of taking comments out of context.

Alex, to your point, let's see the full clips. I don't want to have his words be deteriorated any further. Yeah, I have seen the full clips. It's sort of a fair point that he was just saying that, like, once affirmative action exists, there's that kernel of uncertainty that someone might have been promoted without actually being qualified to meet a quota in that breed suspicion

which is like I guess sort of true but it's not really that much better of a point you're still just being a dickhead yeah and then what were the full context for the Civil Rights Act

was a mistake oh he just said it was good for black people he said they were very happy they were smiling about it and he didn't like it going on she says in the interview Charlie didn't care what skin color you were. He didn't care what religion you were.

He loved excellence, adding that his favorite word was earned. He loved knowing that people worked hard to earn what they got. She said that she didn't know the context of the gun deaths, quote, but there's a lot more to that than just one little sentence. My husband is not to be deteriorated to two sentences, she said. He's not. He is a thought leader, and he was a brilliant man. So that's fine.

If you want to take the words out of his mouth or out of context without the whole thing in perspective, but that's the problem. How many words do you think Erica Kirk knows? I've seen her say thought leader like 60 times. It's fucking crazy. I haven't heard someone unironically used that term since like 2013. Do you remember that shingy guy?

That was the last person I heard say thought leader. I'm not if you're going to address like, let's not deteriorate my husband into a few words. Like that's, I mean, that is just, that's in the stupid dialect, I understand. that but um she i don't know can we can we get her like a cocoa type thing because she like pointed pictures of charlie and be like charlie good speech earned freedom sorry i misquoted her she i'm taking i'm deteriorating her words she says here

my husband is not to be deteriorated to two sentences he's not he is a thought leader and he was brilliant of a man oh my god Do we get a bonobo to teach her Right a sentence or something? I mean, wasn't this guy famous? Like, why does his ex-wife, or his widow, I guess? His ex-wife? It was an act of God that she became his ex-wife.

Like, why does she have to explain who he is? Yeah, yeah. I thought he was the most influential conservative of all time. We all know who he is, right? Has any other celebrity got this treatment where it's like, they die? And it's like, I hope you fucking love him. his wife because you're getting her every day. Who is Tom Seismore married to when he overdosed?

How come Barry Weiss didn't interview the surely of age person he was married to? This is Barry's big debut. And it's weird that like someone from the, I don't know, like the management class of CBS would be putting themselves in front of the camera. Usually news organizations don't work like that. But I will say in the YouTube clip, the YouTube video of the interview that was, that CBS put up on YouTube, I'm going to just look at this right now. This is actually the free presses video of Barry's sit down with Erica Kirk, full interview. As though today, this currently has 78,000 views.

Yeah, it's not that interesting. Like, that stuff's popular as viral AI content, like fake songs of Erica Kirk and J.D. Vance. singing a song together, or like a fake M&M song about celebrating Erica Kirk. Shit like that goes viral. Those fake stories about like Bob Dylan finding out that Charlie Kirk was shot mid-song. Then he starts crying about it and like giving a speech. Like that stuff does get hits, but those people don't want to watch an actual sit-down interview on a talk show format with Erica Kirk.

Like that's not how this works. That's not what they're looking for. And I don't know, I feel like I talked about this before, but like, you remember, like, in the weeks after Charlie Kirk's murder, like, the Wright was really feeling themselves because they thought they had their kind of Reichstag fire moment, and they were like, you have no idea what you've done. You've unleashed like, you know, 10 million, you know, like the next generation is all going to be Charlie Kirk's. And it really seems like in the months this past, the only kind of major cultural impact that his murder has inspired is just like thousands of. of memes of people using AI to turn him into a black guy are just like kirkifying random people. I did it to Rob Reiner. I think that was the first person to do it.

It's also that we are a Charlie Kirk song. Okay, that's really good. Spencer just sent me this. It's a YouTube, a song on YouTube. It's an AI of Erica Kirk singing, Rest Well, My Lovely Cousband. This has one million views. Yeah, it's so.

It's my way, by way of comparison to the interview with actual Erica Kirk. The amount of fake songs is fucking crazy. And it's by people, I guess it sort of makes sense. Some of it's just bizarre, like Rihanna. You see a lot of fake songs from Rihanna, who I don't think would comment on this. Like, you can imagine how a dumb guy would think Eminem would do a song. Because he's sort of in like the pantheon for dumb guys. Him and like John Sina.

But Rihanna, like, it's weird. But there's just so much of that. There's like so much AI. Do you think there's like a Trump guy who's like, I love Mitzky, but she would never do a song about Charlie Kirk but now that we have AI? I've always wondered if there's like a,

just by like sheer numbers, there has to be like at least like a hundred Mitzky fans who voted for Trump and are like sent money to Trump. I was listening to YKS recently and Jesse was talking about how on a recent Joe Rogan show, Joe was talking about how much who likes AI generated music and was talking about like his favorite AI music is like as he described it a mashup of soul music and 50 cent and he said that drove me fucking crazy he said if

it was real it would be like the best it would be like the top of every chart it would be the biggest he'd be the biggest musician in the world because it's just 50 cent lyrics over a soul background and it's like there's so much overlap between those two things because it's putting rap in a style of music that was the source of all the samples for rap for like 30 years. Yeah, yeah. And also there are plenty of old soul songs and blues songs and stuff about killing a guy, getting drunk and like killing a woman, going to jail. It's basically like saying that you want to hear 50 cent over like Kanye production before he like went crazy on the microlipo. Yeah. Which I'm pretty sure exists. There has to be like one song like

that. Yeah, there's plenty of that stuff. 90s gangster rap that samples 60s soul. that's like one of the huge sub-genres of rap. It's just so pointless. Going on here, also featured in the Barry Weiss interview town hall was the kid who was debating Charlie Kirk when Charlie was shot. And it was a Kozak, it says,

Kozak was the last person to debate Charlie Kirk before he was shot. Since that day, Kozak, a self-professed liberal, has continued to call for civil political discourse. I think that one of the few things we can all agree on is this necessity for a conversation. I think we need to remember that we all still have to live with each other. These are still our neighbors, he told 60 minutes correspondent Scott Pelly after the shooting.

He attended the CBS News Town Hall where he again took the microphone, this time to ask Erica Kirk a question. Will you condemn the violent rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth? What do you think, pal? Kozik specifically referenced President Donald Trump accusing six Democratic lawmakers of seditious behavior, punishable by death and then reposting hang them George Washington would top Democrats called for Mr. Trump

to be condemned forcefully over the social media remarks. Erica Kirk didn't mention Mr. Trump by name in her response saying the issue is so much deeper than one person and that it starts at home. Get Donald Trump's parents in here.

I blame his parents. I blame the parents. Who is that like crazy woman, Annalin McCord or something when Putin invaded Russia? or sorry, Ukraine, and she was like, I wish I could breastfeed you. Prevent this.

Maybe if we show Donald Trump a video of Erica Kirk breastfeeding him. He was like, oh, okay, I'm cured. I started home. She urged parents to look in the mirror and reflect on how they're raising their children. You can choose to have evil in your heart or you can choose to have light, she said.

What you consume and what you absorb from the outside world will manifest itself. Weiss asked, do you think our political leaders have a responsibility to turn the temperature down right now? Well, I think everyone has a responsibility to do that. And I'm doing my part, Erica replied. I'm not in control of other people. It really is a beauty page in interview. Yeah. It's like one of the ones that went viral in the 2000s. I think all U.S. Americans need to turn down the temperature on heated political discourse and violent rhetoric. I guess, like, another thing that's kind of hanging over these whole proceedings. And by the way, like, I keep seeing, like, CBS News has promoted this so heavily.

And, like, Barry went on CBS Sunday morning to talk about the interview she did again. And, like, they had, like, the full panel of quizzing her about what it was like to talk to Erica Kirk. And basically, she said, she's a powerfully religious woman that, like, is bearing witness in a Christian sense. And, like, the audience was really moved by it. He was like, everyone in the room was blown away by the power of this woman. It's like being the last person to interview someone with a book out. Like, that's what she's bragging about. The person that's been on TV nonstop for two months, I finally got an interview with her.

And she said the same shit. Yeah, right. Like, if Barry had like, again, like, Will, you've pointed this out. This is like, they're not trying to make money or, like, get viewership. But, like, if she was and she was like, so? Are you seeing anyone? That would be, like, Erica hasn't talked about that. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So are you lesing out? Maybe they could have cracked 100,000 views if she was just like, I'm glad he's dead. He was an asshole. I'm on vacation now. This is great. I inherited it with all his money.

I'm spending it. I found a guy who's going to teach him how to blow up people's heads starting with yours because it's so big. I like you, but I really want to see that thing pop. Well, actually, like, I mean, you bring up the sort of the business angle of this, and a variety has a piece about, like, basically how, for some reason, CBS shows to air this on Saturday night, which is, like, the worst. Oh, no, yeah, I was, well, it's like, it's like,

that's the time that no one watches the news is Saturday night. I was at an orgy, and we all stopped when this came on. The event marked, this is some variety, it says here, the event marked a new offering from CBS News. The organization does not typically host town halls or debates on trending issues with newsmakers. And the choice of Weiss as a moderator also raised eyebrows because in most modern TV news organizations,

senior editorial executives remain off camera rather than appearing in front of it. More may be on the way. I hope so. I hope we need another interview with Erica. I have a lot of unanswered questions. Yeah. During the program, Weiss told viewers that CBS is going

to have many more conversations like this in the weeks and months ahead. So stay tuned. More town halls, more debates, more talking about things that matter. That would suggest CBS is planning to devote more hours to the programs. The news special aired at 8 p.m. on Saturday, one of the least watched hours in broadcast TV. And that may have contributed to the relative dearth of top advertisers appearing to support the show. During the hour, commercial breaks were largely filled with spots from direct response advertisers, including the dietary supplement superbeats,

the Home Repair Service, Homeserve.com, and Carfax, a supplier of auto ownership data. Viewers of the telecast on WCBS, CBS's flagship station in New York, even saw a commercial for a Chia Pet, the terracotta figure that sprouts plant life after a few weeks. So, yeah, like, not exactly blowing the doors off, but I mean, like, I don't know, like, how about,

just give her her own show. She, like, why is Barry Weiss doing these? interviews. Erica Kirk should be interviewing people. I kind of want, I like them together because they're both like, um, they, Felix, they should do a Rosolian Isles style show. That's how they already speak. I mean, I would love that. By the way, a show, a show with a very prominent lesbian fan base. So, you know, like, Barry, Erica, this is like the perfect matchup. And one of the way, I forget if it was Rosolian Isles, who Angie Harmon plays, already a conservative. Yeah. And I always wished, you know, I,

I've talked with my friends in the Resolian Isles fan community. We wish they were both conservative. Now they're, now they both are. They both talk that way. Fantastic. I mean, there is sort of a,

there's another worm in the apple here in, in this story. And that is, um, basically all of the, uh, the strife and anxiety that is being caused by Candice Owens or like just sort of, she's,

she's making their, their efforts to deify Charlie Kirk and, sort of promote Erica and like to as part of a political project. She keeps making that hard because she has a huge audience and she keeps focusing on the fact that Charlie was killed by the French government

to cover up Bridget Macron's both both her of the fact, both the fact that she is a trans woman, but also that she was involved in the Sanford prison experiments. How did Charlie know about that? I mean, did he like, did he like walk in on her changing?

I just like, I don't, I mean, I support Candice in all this. I love what she's doing. It's hilarious. I love how mad everyone is at her. But I really like, it doesn't make a lot of or really any sense. I don't recall Charlie ever talking about anyone involved in the Stanford prison experiments.

But maybe it was a support. Maybe that was like his, that is what he was going to shock that liberal kid with for the question about trans mass shooting. I don't know. It just as nonsensical as their thing is, I do kind of

like she, out of all the people who have memorialized him, I believe that she was his friend more than any of them. Those pictures are that made me a little sad, to be honest. They reminded me a lot of like sort of like a vivacious guy under hag

combo that I would always see at the bar I worked at. She was the other one of his two honeies. And it says here that Erica Kirk is planning to have a private meeting with Candace Owens. This is after Turning Point USA challenged her to a public debate. But it says, A Weiss asked Erica Kirk about Candace Owens, a former Turning Point USA employee and one-time friend of Charlie Kirk,

who has recently been peddling conspiracy theories about his assassination. Owens has also made unfounded allegations about the nonprofit, the Treasury Department last week, confirmed that none of the tax-exempt entities, Kirk runs are under investigation by the IRS. What does Erica Kirk want to say to Owens and others making these unfounded claims? Stop. That's it.

That's all I have to stay. Stop. But I don't think Candice Owens is going to do that. And, you know, I was fascinated by the Stanford Prison Experiment angle to this. Because Dave Weigel shared a video of Candace talking about this from a while ago. And it begins with her talking about how we. important numerology is, which is, you know, always a good sign. But then she basically goes through how, like, each of these standard prison experiment

subjects were assigned to numbers. And then she, she analyzes the numbers and... Is it Gamatria? She says that the numbers correspond to military bases and that one of the military bases was, like, owned by France or something. I don't know. My favorite point of the video that Wigel pointed out is one of the participants in the Stanford Prison Experiments is a man named Walter Hubble, and that is Hubble, spelled H-U-B-B-B-E-L-L-L, and she speculates that he might be involved with the Hubble telescope, spelled H-U-B-B-B-L-A. Witt Hubble, we've been having trouble finding anything about Witt Hubble, so we are unsure about 7-258.

somebody out there will be able to let me know. We have had trouble even establishing who his family is if he's connected to the Hubble telescope. So we just have nothing but question marks when it comes to Witt Hubble. What if he was? You never, I mean, I don't know. A Stanford student worked for NASA?

Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Like, you know, Candice Owens is, like I said, she's becoming something of a thorn in the side of the sort of post-Charlie Kirkwright. And she seems to be, I don't know, fomenting this schism in the, I don't know, the turning points in the broader online conservative media entertainment sphere. And I just want to read a little bit from Will Sumber, who wrote this up for the bulwark a little while ago. And Sir, Erica Kirk went on Fox News on Wednesday to mark the three-month anniversary of her husband Charlie's assassination.

But her goal wasn't just to commemorate the tragic moment. it was to staunch the cataracts of conspiracy theories that have been promoted by Candace Owens who's earned tens of millions of YouTube views for her wild unfounded speculation about Kirk's death. Sorry, I'm just thinking of Barry's YouTube numbers again. It says here, without naming Owens,

Erica Kirk jabbed at an unnamed person, making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode going after people that I love. My message to them is to stop, to stop, Kirk said, turning directly to the camera. So she gave the same interview to Fox News several weeks ago before Barry got scooped like a million times before this CBS town hall. Erica is even recycling her lines for Barry. But it says here, as the segment ended, Kirk held up her late husband's new posthumously published book and said its title, said its title, giving it an imperative intonation to reinforce the apparent message to Owen.

stop in the name of God by the way Charlie Gerch's posthumous book is called like stop in the name of God how honoring the Sabbath can change your life Oh my buddy just can hurt

Well I mean like Which Sabbath You know there's a couple of them Does he mean Friday evening to Saturday Or is he referring to Sunday Why don't just take the whole weekend off Just to be safe Well what is that thing about like how Erica said

He would get home and be like Shabbat Shalom. Hey, buddy, that's not for you. And little in this world is. Summer continues here. If the message rang familiar, that may be because two days earlier, podcaster Tim Poole had launched his own

somewhat less rousing salvo against Owens. Fuming after an unidentified person allegedly fired shots at his rural West Virginia compound, Poole blamed Owens for injecting a new level of mania into maga media, even slamming his hand on the table for emphasis. Describing in detail what he believed to be Owens' own minimal security setup,

Poole rage that he, by comparison, is forced to live in the middle of nowhere in West Virginia to deter assailants. Candice Owens is a fucking evil scumbag, Poole said. She is a degenerate cunt. She is burning everything down and she's gloating and smiling while she doesn't. Poole and Erica Kirk are parts of a broad new coalition and coalescing on the right with the goal of stopping Owens and her conspiracy theories, many of which targeted Charlie Kirk's friends and the organization he founded, Turning Point USA. Their efforts are a testament to the tremendous cloud

Owen is now wields, but timing is a major factor too. TPSA's big annual America Fest conference in Phoenix is kicking off next week, and prominent conservative figures have been open that they fear that the proceedings could go sideways because of Owen's claims. Personalities is disparate as pro-Israel commentator Ben Shapiro, anti-Semitic white nationalist podcaster Nick Fuentes,

and even the internal revenue services of all attempt to debunk Owens' claims this month. The Groyper's and the evangelical trad moms have united in distaste for her. I know Candice Owens has, like, a huge audience, but, like, how do you guys conceive of, like, the typical Candice Owens fan? I think it's kind of obvious.

I mean, I, like, she's not as, like, bombastic performer as, like, Alex Jones, um, or as polished a broadcaster as Tucker, maybe. but I do think she has like an every stupid woman appeal to a lot of these people. I don't know how many people you've met

who are like addicted to things you can buy at the gas station but there's like a lot of people like that in this country. Like a fucking lot of them. I would say probably over 100 million. For those types of people they may have like voted for Trump

like maybe three times but they don't like fully consider themselves Republicans. They're not fully they're not fully acclimated to the con ink or the party infrastructure or any of that and they just

they like the idea that like a fellow dumb dumb is like hey everyone I found some numbers that like you know prove that like Starburst have fucking AIDS in them I think they know

there's always someone like that yeah yeah she's still keeping up the edge lord shit which the rest of them aren't really like they're doing the safe edgy shit, their version of safe edgy, but they don't really want to poke the bear. They don't want to kick the hornets nest.

They're saying, like, calm down. Calm down. We're just going to, we're going to talk about Rob Reiner. We're going to talk about Rosie O'Donnell and Whoopi Goldberg. We're going to have a safe level of people getting freaked out and pissed off, but we don't want to go too far. We don't want to attack

Erica Kirk. I mean, it kind of is the same phenomenon of when someone triangulates to preemptively cut off their right flank in like a person state or something why wouldn't you go with the real thing like if it's like oh you know

okay um we you know we could say that Rob Reiner died of Trump derangement system syndrome but we you know we draw the line at Erica Kirk I you know if I was into that I would rather have the woman kicking the synagogue nest yeah it's not like they're running for office

yeah it's just two different TV shows and why would you want the one that's sanitized for CBS She's also, like, a real wild card. Like, she is, like, she's, you know, she does all this, like, you know, Jew stuff sometimes, but then she's also like, but I'm also friends with the worst Jewish guy ever, Harvey Weinstein. Like you really, like, you don't know what she's going to do. It's exciting. Like I said, like, I think after Charlie Kirk's murder, there was this, I don't know, there was this implication or like a wish that was being projected onto the public by the right that this was going to have changed.

everything. And the reality is that like it really hasn't amounted to much and like I think there's an anger that not enough is being done or like you know the guy that they arrested it's just I don't know maybe it's not satisfying enough but if you're mad about people not doing anything about Charlie Kirk's death I suppose

you'd prefer the TV show that's trying to explain it even if the explanation is completely insane. Right and also like at this point at this point even with like con ink the mainstream Republican Party how can you say to your voter like, okay, like, we draw the line at investigating Charlie Kirk's death.

That's unacceptable for some reason. Why that one? It seems very arbitrary to probably, like, a huge chunk, if not a majority of their voters. Will someone writes on here, it says, Owens at first shied away from explicit attacks on Erica Kirk. In fact, she said early on that the widow was the only person, aside from Owen's own husband, who could tell Owens to stop looking into Charlie Kirk's murder. But after Erica Kirk slammed her on fire,

Fox News on Wednesday, Owens made clear that on her own show that the widow would now be fair game too. She compared Erica to Megan Markle, a reviled figure on the right, and said, you don't get to be widowed into the position of chairman and CEO. Megan Markle, I mean,

I suppose I can understand, like, is she so reviled on the right for what, like breaking up the royal family of Great Britain? Or is it, or are they mad at suits? I don't know. Just because she's mixed race. I guess Erica Kirk is part Lebanese. Maybe she is the Megan Markle of Charlie Kirk.

I don't know. There's secret Lebanese all over Con Inc. It's really nuts. You know Benny Hin? Oh, yeah, Reverend Benny Hin. I love him. Owens' cavalier attitude in the audience she has grabbed that it has been a green light signal to others of that ilk. Provocator Milo Yanopoulos has also began raising questions about the Kirk assassination, including where he was buried.

It prompted Erica Kirk to acknowledge in her Fox News appearance that decisions about her husband's body are being kept private. an understandable disclosure but one but one that could end up fueling even more conspiracy theories is she gonna give it to that German guy who like you know he like replaces

the fluids with plastic and makes the bodies do all that crazy stuff like the body's exhibition right yeah yeah I mean what if that's what Charlie wanted actually she donated it to one of those programs that like test artillery for the military

they're strapping his skeleton to a new Israeli spice bomb If the TPUSA showdown doesn't demolish Owens Fuentes, a one-time Owens fellow traveler who has so far stayed away from her conspiracy theories about Kirk's killings has vowed to put Owens in a coffin metaphorically speaking If they don't do a good enough job

I think I'm going to have to step up Fuentes said on his show and I think I'm going to have to expose Candace Owens for what she really is There are a lot of reasons I think to think that this won't work for one, Owens may have a bigger audience than Fuentes and almost all of her other critics. For another, pushing back can be difficult because of many of Owens'

conservative critics do not always operate in the realm of reality themselves. As Poole raged against Owens on Monday night, his guest was Gary the Numbers Guy, a sort of manosphere numerologist who provides astrology readings for macho far right figures. Poole asked Gary the Numbers guy

for his thoughts on Owens. I think Candice Owens is born in 1989. The Year of the Snake, Gary said, And 2025 is the year of the snake. And I think that's why she's number one right now. That's the least masculine shit of all time. You could not come up with something less masculine than using astrology, talking about 1989.

Someone said that exact sentence about Taylor Swift. I guarantee you. Well, I mean, I guess it'll make America Fest interesting. I'll be looking forward to that next week. You know, what's next for Eric Kirk? Because, like, I really, I really think she needs her own TV show. And, like, she's become kind of the figurehead of TPUSA. But, like, where are she going?

Where's she going now? What's next for Erica Kirk? That's what I want to know. She needs an angle. There has to be some sort of angle because they kind of ran out of the rage and the clicks and the engagement on just saying, they killed Charlie Kirk. He's dead. What the fuck?

The left did this. The left created this climate where he was murdered. Like, no one wants to click on that anymore. That's why they're switching to conspiracy. And you can't really go back because once you've trained all these people to expect constant conspiracies and just constant rage bait and shit, you can't show them that and then expect them to go back to just mourning him in a respectable way. That's not going to get clicks. That's boring. That is the funny thing about all of this.

I mean, like all the people on like the Tim Pool side of things, it's basically like they're complaining that they like they gave their kids meth. And for like a month, it made their grades better. But now they're, like, taking apart the family's car and putting it back together poorly. Like, but, you know, biting their own scabs off. What the fuck? Well, you gave them meth. What did you think? How did you think it was going to go after, like, three months?

I don't really see a bright future for Erica in the entertainment business. her tenure hosting the Charlie Kirk show it's not gone well uh listenership is down but I think that like if there is any angle at all and like this has always been my dream job to be like a John Taffer for content creators

yes it would be like you show her like you know AI songs that she's singing with Rihanna about Charlie and be like okay you try to do this Okay, I'm getting in my content creator brain here. I'm going to do content rescue here. And I think a great idea for Erica is like, don't get mad, get even. You know, start trolling Candace Owens.

And I think a good way for it to do that would be to host some sort of reality TV show competition featuring the French Foreign Legion. Like, who wants to be the next foreign legionaire? You know, like some sort of like obstacle course or quiz show. but the idea is to like, you know, I don't know, initiate men into the French Foreign Legion and set them to work, doing assassinations. Or just do the Stanford Prison Experiment as a reality show. Oh, that's a good one.

That's a great idea. A recreation of the Stanford Prison Experiment hosted by Erica Kirk. And there could be like, there could be like a message for that. There could be a message in that show about, like, you know, treating people with respect and looking in the mirror. The students are anti-Semites. they were at a Palestine protest it's okay oh man

that's another thing that's pretty rich for Barry Weiss to be talking about how like no one should ever be killed for their words well you know there are there are a few exceptions that Barry's made in the past regarding that policy in English. English words I mean yeah talk about

creating a fucking climate Jesus Christ everyone's got a role to play Everyone needs to look in the mirror and parents. And the parents need to take responsibility for the climate of hatred that they are raising their kids in. Spend more time with them. Less time doing interviews, more time with your kids.

It'll bring down the climate. All right, that's enough fun on Erica Kirk and Candace Owens. I wish them the best, but I don't know. I think they should have done the meeting between them for a TV show. I think that should have been on CBS, too. I mean, that is another fucking bungle, by the way. Yeah. Because if you're, if you're like confident, which I'm not, but if you, if you're Erica

Kirk and you're like, hey, I know myself, I know my friends, I know the guys I hired to like touch their own foreheads a bunch of times, we didn't like, you know, do numbers with the French government to kill Charlie. You would like, it would be like a publicized thing. It would be her first like hit in a few months, honestly. But doing it in private, that's like, you're basically like winking to all the stupids and gas station substance users and being like, we're not broadcasting this because I'm going to threaten to, like, you know, throw her grandmother off a bridge. That's like the best thing you could do for Candace. Yeah.

What, you think you think you're going to like shame her in private? That's not fucking happening, lady. Oh, wait. Okay. Sorry. I had one more idea of a way that Erica, Kurt could get back at Candace Owens. Do a podcast about numbers

called Numbers Every Day or Numbers Everywhere. A show that describes... A show that just describes, like, numbers that you encounter on a day and then maybe Gary the Numbers guy or like a panel of numerology of Schizophrenics can

divine meaning from it. This is... We do a similar thing for our schizophrenic listeners. We're like just at random points in episodes. will be like, 72, 87, we're going to get you, ba, you know. By the day, it's it. By the way, this week's numbers are 4, 26, and 8. If you see those, you are going to die.

Beah! I think, you know, that could really work on Candace. I don't know. I think you have something here. Oh, wait, no, this is for Candace. This week's numbers are e de, three. He wasn't perfect. Nobody is.

But he carried his cross Like a soldier of the proof In a world full of chaos He was standing for light Quoting scripture in the dark Holding hope through the fight Gunshots took him But they couldn't steal a song

Because the spirit in his words Keep marching all strong He said out of Speaking of child Child abuse There was a new trove of Epstein photos released And you know like

Not nothing too salacious into them But like it's more just like The company he keeps and like obviously a lot of him and Woody Allen a lot of him and Steve Bannon Ehud Barak but the one everyone's talking about

is like how much fucking time an email car look I know I know Noam Chomsky replies to every email if you write to him and apparently attends every event you would like him to

Jesus of all you know and like I guess like I don't reply to any emails you know and like so I feel I feel vindicated in that but like Nelmchomsky

Jeffrey Epstein I got to say, this really does ding his overall reputation and legacy just a little bit. Just a little bit. You know who never met with Jeffrey Epstein, never talked to him, never met with Steve Bannon, John Fuglesing. That's right. The guy who knows Chomsky basically ripped off for most of his stuff, especially in linguistics. Also, like, what language did he invent?

None of them, apparently. One last thing I want to get to today. I want to check in on our boy, Rod Dreher, who wrote a piece for the free press, back to Barry again. But he wrote a piece for the free press titled The Intersectionality of Nick Fuentes. And I'm not going to read all of it because it's kind of boring. But I just want to read like just the beginnings of it. Rod writes, in the Cohen Brothers cult comedy, the Big Lebowski,

Walter Sobchek, John Goodman, says, Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, dude, but at least it's an ethos. His point is that when you have no identity, Nazism at least gives you a sense of who you are, end of purpose. I don't think that was Walter's point in that scene. I don't think that's a Walt Xers, man.

I fucking hate Gen Xers. It's the most Gen X opening to an article. Fuck people in their 50s. He says, it's a funny line. But now that a rising political influencer in America is Adolf Hitler-loving, Halicost denying 27-year-old in-cell named Nick Fuentes.

We ought to take subjects observation. Wait a second. Okay. You can insult Nick Fentz by saying he's a virgin and an in-en-sale, but not if you're Rod Dreher. He should be proud of him for never having sex. It would all suck his dick.

If he asked those people for sex, it's his choice. I can confirm that. Sometimes I pretend to be him, and you'd be surprised what I can get away with. Like I said, Fuentes has never, yeah, he says he's never had sex with a woman, and I believe him. It says here, Fuentes positions himself as the voice of a generation of lost white males.

And though he comes across, it comes off as a hysterical ranter, he praises both Hitler and Joseph Stalin. It's a mistake to underestimate him. Say what you will about the tenets of graperism, dude, but at least it's an ethos. Can you watch another fucking movie at all? Can you quote Scarface or something? Yeah, Jesus, man. Don't worry, Donnie. There's so many good movies for that period.

I mean, this is a good movie, too, but like, Jesus Christ, we were really overdoing it here with this generation and this movie. Don't worry, Donnie. These men are incels. But he goes on to say, what is that ethos? Fentes, now riding high on the boost Tucker Carlson gave him, laid out his core tenants in a couple of recent clips. In this one, he says, he is principally engaged in trying to organize whites as a political group to raise the consciousness of an army. Why is it, he asked, that Jews. Muslims and racial minorities have political consciousness, but that is taboo for whites.

You're going to get great bros with our white identity politics in the halls of power. That's the endgame, he says. The free press is reported on Fuentes registering a 501C4 called the America First Foundation, a tax-exempt organization that can engage in lobbying and political campaigning. Here is Fuentes calling for a kind of Hitler-Stalin pact of the progressive left and nationalist right. The left can have equity and all it wants if it just gives up on immigration and aid to Israel. And the right, he says, should abandon the free market and, of course, aid to Israel. Then we can all come together as populists and rule for a century. Nationalist social.

Oh, God. You really see why Rod is like, he mostly writes about like different types of genitalia he's seen. Yeah. Because like any other top. Yeah, any other time is pretty dry. Yeah. Yeah. He is fucking boring. Well, I mean, like, I'm going to get to like, have you gone to any bathrooms recently? Can we hear about that? I'm going to get to. I'm going to get to. I'm going to get to like the point he's making here, but it says here, if you are shocked by Nick Quintes, it shows you have a heart.

But if you were surprised by him, it raises questions about the existence of your brain. Evil, though he is. Fuentes is merely following the path laid down by the American left for the half century. Back in 2019, near the height of the great awakening, Stacey Abrams,

the prominent black female Democrat, who was once thought to be the future of the party, put identity politics at the core of the Democratic Party. In a speech to the center of American progress, Abrams said, the notion of identity politics has been peddled for the past 10 years and it's been used as a dog whistle to say we shouldn't pay too much attention to the voices coming into progress. I would argue that identity politics is exactly who we are and exactly how we want. Identity politics for me, but not for the white boys. They really thought this

would last forever. And basically like, I mean, like, you're right, Felix. He should be talking about blueie or bathrooms or his family history You wouldn't believe how many telotubbies crawled up my asshole in a dream I had last night. You know, here's what this says about the future of Hungary. It's like, I've read this article.

A million fucking times. It's just chat GPT. It's all cliches. The Churchill quote. The Churchill quote, yeah. Yeah. I really hate that guy who was, who was that rich guy who was like, he was basically paying Roder's salary at American

conservative. And then after the Root Weiner article, he was like, okay, this is too weird for me, which like, is a Harlan Cron? Yeah, I think it might be. It raises a lot of questions about him, because it's like, were you actually a fan? Because that's kind of Rod playing the hits. But I

hate that guy, because he's scared Rod into just writing like normal substack slop. Yeah, and it's about this. It's about one of the most repressed gay subjects that you could possibly write about. But he's not even making it interesting. He's not even talking about penises.

You're so right. Like two years ago, if you told me, Rod wrote like, you know, 5,000 words on Dick Fuentes, I would be like, yes, let's go. This is going to be great. He's going to talk about, like,

you know, the thigh high socks and dressing up like maids and stuff. But no, there's none of that. Yeah, destiny in the pool. Yeah, none of that, though. None of that in this. He's gunshy now,

and it's really sad. Wasn't the root weiner thing that he was uncircumcised? Yeah. That kid was uncircumcised. Well, you know who's uncircumcised? Latinos. high and large

eight point great don't they have primitive ruiners very good point he says here yes the right has a Nick Fuentes problem but it has a Nick Fuentes problem

in part because for decades the grievance of self left has demonized the kind of people who are susceptible to the griper message and who have not

internalized the taboos that made older whites too timid to speak out effectively against the left's malicious illiberalism alas these right wing zoomers have a point when they say that straight white men

are the only demographic not permitted to have political consciousness based on their identity. This is the deal with the devil that American political culture made when it normalized essentialism based on race or other characteristics. Like, for instance, being uncircised. Yeah, I don't know. I guess you can argue that 2020 coinciding with lockdown and stuff that probably did have an effect. Yeah. Like peak woke, just people who were like 16 and they were into Gamergate type shit and just being inundated with

that shit during their formative years. Like, I guess I can see the argument that that would sort of solidify a racial identity, especially when it's being reinforced by the internet. And it's like your social group and stuff. But I think it probably would have happened anyway. It would have come out in another form. Yeah, I just, I feel like I've been reading this exact article for like, I know, I know.

Rod writes, to be clear, it is not the case that political, particular groups, racial minorities, religious believers, LGBT's women, don't have a political interest as a group. It's more that some have come to see those identities rather than citizenship and shared humanity as the basis for equality. Well, Rod,

like I said, I've read this article a billion times, but with Rod writing it, it's like, Rod, you don't believe that gay people or women should have political equality or rights. So, like, I don't know what this is. It's just, he's the wrong messenger for this. Like, he says, crucially,

Martin Luther King Jr. advocated for the interest of black Americans in universalist, not essentialist terms. If one accepts essentialism and makes it the basis of one's politics, a la Stacey Abrams, then you cannot escape the logical conclusion that angry white males have a right to do so as well. This will mean the death of pluralistic liberal democracy. But like, Rod, you don't believe in pluralistic liberal democracy. You believe that we should have like some sort of religious king. What are you complaining about? Like all this woke illiberalism led to the rise of Donald Trump, part two. Like, what are you complaining about?

Your side one. Out of all the people who can, like, put on the, you know, I'm a classical liberal bullshit act. Yeah. You weren't the last one who can do that. Yeah, you're Catholic from Louisiana. And you love Eastern Europe. That's not liberal.

Well, like, and then he goes on to say, to be clear, it is nearly impossible to imagine that the left whose newest political icon, incoming New York mayor, Zoran Mamdani, is the incarnation of leftist identity politics is capable of anything but accelerating the identity politics civil war that the left has been inviting

since before Martin Luther King Jr. with his colorblind universalist dream was murdered in Memphis. Rod, you were, you were, you and your whole your dad was in the KKK, Rod. I mean, he was engaged in white identity politics a long time before fucking Stacey Abrams got on the fucking scene in the South.

And it's like, Rod, you're opposed to Martin Luther. or King Jr. and everything he stood for. So you can't use his supposedly his dream of universal civil and human rights. You can't bemoan the loss of that thanks to woke identity politics because you never believed in it or desired it in the first place.

And also, I got to say here, when he says, like, he's saying he's rejecting identity politics and, like, no one, that it's evil and no one should subscribe to it. But then when you describe Zeron Mandani as the incarnation of leftist identity politics, how? Yeah, what race is he?

He didn't run that. identity politics campaign. He's just a Muslim guy from a different country. That's the only thing that you can tag him with as representing identity politics is just his identity. But he wasn't running on that. That's what I was going to say. It's you can more accurately say that like J.D.

Vance ran an identity policy campaign when he ran for Senate or during the 2024 campaign than you could ever say that about Zoron's mayoral campaign primary or general. That was sort of the big thing with it is that he talked about like affordability. issues. It was like a vindication of a of like a more polished Bernie 2016 model adjusted for a municipal campaign. If you

look at that campaign and say that it's identity politics, you might be a fucking idiot. He's an Indian Muslim from Uganda. Like you can't, you can't be the the id-paw guy when you're that guy. Because how many other people like that are? Like 10?

There's up to 20,000 people like that who have ever lived in fucking America. You can't be saying Indian Muslim Ugandan lives matter. It kind of has to be universal. How many fucking Shia

Muslims are there in America? Think about that. Like, Rod, you are fucking dumb. You are an idiot. You need to get back to the sex stuff because you are a fucking dope. The free press is making him dumb.

The free press is accepting this dog shit when they, when they, like, you could be, like, there's so much better stuff for Rod to be writing about, and they're letting him fucking degraded. They're letting him, to use the words of Erica Kirk, they're letting him deteriorate himself recycling this tired old bullshit. This is like if, I think like the same guy owned the White Sox and the Bulls for a while,

if he was like, okay, we're paying Michael Jordan, but only to play baseball. You never stepped foot on a basketball court ever again. Yeah. Um, he says here, uh, uh, uh, the assassination this fall of conservative youth leader, Charlie Kirk, apparently by a conservative youth leader. I'll take that as a compliment. I'm the same age. Yeah. Early 30s. Very youthful. Well, I mean, I think he's saying he led conservative youth. Not so much. I mean, well, you know, 30's still young. Come on. 42 is still pretty young. Uh, sorry. The assassination is full of conservative youth leader, Charlie Kirk, apparently by a radical young.

leftist eliminated the most important voice on the right for solving disputes through reasoned dialogue how the right responds not only to murder but to the juring reaction of the left remains a challenge yeah cue donald trump in what we talked about at the beginning of the show it certainly does remain a challenge you know uh maintaining that moral high ground and only we and only weeks after the entire administration bragged and posted snuff films about the fishermen they killed by away. Yeah, yeah, good point. And the associate says, who else is there? Maybe no one. We are not fated to fall like the Weimar Republic did. Another cliche.

Fuck you. Who's the editor of this piece? All of us, whatever our politics, still have moral agency and the capacity to resist. In word, indeed, the racist centralist ideologues of both sides. Yet in an era with all traditional moral authorities of the center are discredited in the eyes of the online mesmerized young, the field is open to radicals of all time, just like Weimar. For all who's looking at... How is it like that at all?

It's a very specific situation where World War I just ended, and they lost, and they were occupied by the allies, and they had the indemnity that they had to pay. It was a very specific set of circumstances that's not at all like America at any point. Nothing like it. Yeah, you say that, Alex.

You say that, Alex, but in wine marjoramony, they had, like, you know, cabarets where they did, like, gender performances. And they were, like, you know, fucking sucking and, you know, like, singing songs about... Can we take Rod out to, like, a plur experience? Just to, like, get his creative juices flowing again. Can we take Rod to a boiler room? Yeah. Send him to a rave or something. He's indulging too much of that.

Yeah. He needs to be more repressed. Yeah. Right. You know those guys I love, the guys who get put in a PVC cube? What if we all go to a boiler room? But Rod has to be in the cube the entire time. He can't leave.

And we're all farting into it. I mean, I think that would mellow him out a little too much. I think that would give him some sort of release. Here's what we do. Rod should continue to do his sort of post-divorce, sort of man about town, traveling, having fun. But we need to give him some, like, bad assets. So he has a really bad trip and, like, sees demons. And he can go back to the real shit, the real Rod shit.

Oh, my God. This is, like, Jordan on the Wizards, Felix. Turn for the White Sox, Jordan on the Wizards. Like, no one wants to see or hear this from Rod, man. This is, like, the last 10 fights of BJ Penn's career. It's awful. It's sad to watch. I really don't like it.

I mean, I thought if we could get Rod, like, a four, of 2CB that specifically, like, gives these schizophrenia, and take them to the exact club that Vito went to at the Johnny Sacks wedding? It's a joke. I really felt bad

for Vito. It's like, he's been in the mafia, like, 30 years. Can you at least like let him try to explain how it's a joke, like what the joke is? Maybe Vito had like a secondary thing, like he had a passion of being like a practical jokester. Like, Bobby

with the trains. Rod sealed inside a latex cube. It's an ethos. Guys, it's an ethos. Yeah, I mean, yeah. If you are an evil two CB dealer, please get in contact with us. We have to save this man's career.

Talk about something being important for the future of the West. Rod closes out this piece by writing, For all his wickedness, Nick Fuentes at least knows who he is and what he believes in. Sure, it's evil. I just like, I don't think

Rod has done a good enough job explaining why he thinks what Nick Flintes believes is evil. I mean, because as best I can tell, he believes it's evil for white people to have political consciousness and identity politics because it's all, because it's more evil for black people

and Latinos, women, and gay people to have a political project or an ethos on that regard. It's also, this is such a weird person to say that about, you know who's not in denial or hiding any aspect of his life? Nick Fuentes. He's barely holding a.

That guy is not holding anything in. And in a culture gripped by, in a culture gripped by what the cognitive scientist John Vervacke calls the meaning crisis, it's an ethos with power and allure that we would be fools to discount. Is that a new thing, meaning crisis? Yeah, if you've

invested in meaning any time over the last five years, you're taking a bath right now. This is like if Christopher Lash gave himself serotonin syndrome. This is just dire. I hate this. Rod needs a, okay, content fixer, content rescue.

Rod needs to have a bad trip, and he needs to convert again. He needs another conversion. He needs another religious smoke, yeah. Islam would be an obvious choice for Rod. but you know what I'm going to go a little outside the box here I'm going to say shaker that's a really good one you know I've never heard of a shaker who isn't prone to fits of mania

so that's kind of really great for him I mean look their furniture is fucking fantastic so you know I could maybe like do some woodworking and then then starts shaking when he sees like a cartoon with a transgender character I'm going to go um this may be like kind of old hat but I'm going to say diobandi Islam All right. I think Rod. Or Sufism.

He could spin around a lot. He could keep saying. Actually, that's what he's been doing in this fucking article. He's spinning. Spinning his goddamn wheels. Yeah. I think, I don't know. I think if Rod, like, ingratiated himself in passionate society, he would be like the,

he'd finally be like the right mix of, like, urbane and, like, bigoted. They'd be like, you're perfect. We love you. Rod. Brother. brother rod please do better please try harder like i i do not say this ironically at all rod you are better than this you are a better writer than this you were a better thinker than this get out get out of the rancid ideal id paul fucking gutter of the free press okay they're turning

they're turning you into an id paul they're turning you woke rod rod they killed your lord Think about your editor Like hooking up a basketball hoop On the back of the Holy Cross However you think it's shaped nowadays That because that's what they Does it have the extra little hash on it? Yeah

Yeah It looks like the stuff that they use In those NBA jam games But Just you know Think about that Rod Look We've had our differences

But we are fans of yours Like we love what you do We think there's no one else like you. And you're just, you're capable of so much greater stuff than this. And we'll find a new, like crazy rich guy to pay your salary. We don't care. He's, he's out there. Look, there's a fucking guy weird enough out there who will pay for whatever.

We'll find him. We'll help you. We just, we want the guy that we know. We want him back. We don't want this guy talking about like, now, you know, every, there's more fucking iPads than community bowling leagues. Rod, you don't care about that shit. Come on.

Rod, there are demons in our world right now. They're walking around with human skin and they're turning America into Weimar, Germany. And you're writing about fucking ID Paul, about identity politics and how it's bad. Rod, yeah, Dora the Explorer is like, she's like telling kids to experiment with open relationships

and this is what you're writing about. Yeah, she could be. I can't understand her. I'm giving coded messages to my kids. Well, that does it for today's show. But before we go, we've got a little bit, we've got a few plugs, got a few announcements at the end of the show. So I'm turning it over to Chris.

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