Chapo Trap House - Episode 226 - Islands in the Stream (7/9/18)

Episode Date: July 9, 2018

Matt, Will and Felix take a belated 4th of July look at why, in Axios' opinion, we should be proud to be Americans. We then examine Alan Dershowitz' floundering social life and discuss why he ACTUALLY should be ostracized from society. Finally, we turn from America's old decadent and depraved ruling class to its up and coming ruling class, who are decadent and depraved in confounding new ways. #LiberateStonybrook https://itsgoingdown.org/liberatestonybrook-floridas-own-water-crisis/amp/?__twitter_impression=true C'mon Buy the Book: http://chapotraphouse.com/book/ Donate to Salazar for Senate https://secure.actblue.com/donate/salazar-for-senate-1?refcode=website-menu-en

This is the only musical, the mouth, and hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is butchers bar boy. The brain is butchers bar boy. Susan Sarand, it needs a bloody ASBO. Remember that. It'll come in handy later. Hey, how are you guys doing?

Good. Happy belated 4th of July to everyone. Happy Independence Day. Yep. Happy birthday, United Snakes of America. Yeah, we slept through 4th of July. Our bad. But we're here now.

We're doing the 4th of July episode now. So you can either complain about it being late, or you can hear this intro and sit on the rest of the episode for less than a year at this point. Yeah. And listen to it July 4th, 2019. This is just a very early 4th of July episode. Yeah. You know, we're keeping it real.

It's me, Matt and Felix, the OG dry boys on this episode, holding it down. Throwback. Throwback. Keeping it 1600 with my friends. Yes. 100% cane sugar Coca-Cola. And I thought I'd kick off today's show by giving everyone some reasons to love America 2018.

Hell yeah. Like us every July 4th. Your Twitter feed is nonstop people describing every coup and genocide and war crime ever committed by America to remind people why America sucks and to let everyone know that America is actually bad in case you were wondering wounded knee much. But so maybe after that you're feeling a little down on your nation and you want some reason to be proud. And this, thankfully, these people at Axios, well, yeah, this comes to us Axios, if you're

not familiar, is the world's most well-funded field trip, world's most well-funded and longest lasting field trip. A group of several precocious 45 year olds who received $700 billion in VC funding to go on a fully funded birthright trip to Washington DC and, you know, find out, find out what Rick Perry really does on the weekends. Axios sounds like a drug for erectile dysfunction that makes you stop getting an erection. I don't know why you'd need that. It's a drug to combat priapism.

Yeah. It's maybe you're an awkward teen in sweatpants or something. Try Axios. Axios will kill that boner. Axios sounds like the god in the made up religion that Robespierre founded. The Supreme Being called the Supreme Being. Yes. No, that's totally true.

Yeah. The avatar of reason. Axios. This is from Mike Allen, who's like the sort of the all father of Axios, which is a, again, it was like a sort of a spun off political, but I think his Mike Allen's like big, you know, big, big idea for Axios is that no one wants to read the news. They just want the bullet points from every article. I mean, true.

No one reads articles. Yeah. So they just want the headline and the bullet points. So Mike Allen writes, your reasons to love America 2018. Because like, you know, obviously, like it's it's very hip to be down on America. I mean, it's hip to be down in America all the time, but especially now because, you know, our president is like a senile reality TV show host, you know, whose mind is literally melting on TV as we, you know, parenthetically, as we ran some children and cages that you

see the thing he said at the Montana rally, the Elton John thing. It was so cool. That is a brain dying in like the most powerful man in America with the ability to hypothetically launch a nuclear war at any moment. Just his brain leaking out of his ears in front of thousands of hooting swine who how alarming is it that none of them were absurd of worried. It's like, oh, is he okay? Does he smell toast?

Do we need to get him to a hospital? They're just like, yeah, John, fuck you. People have said that I have had the most wonderful stroke of all time that no one's brain is completely turned to spoiled to spoiled applesauce and the way that mine has folks folks, the clots in my blood vessels, they're huge, they're the biggest, they're phenomenal. I have a blood clot the size of a salami disc in my wrist is actually bigger than my wrist. Look, it juts out, it looks like the planet Saturn that the Trump comments on using his brain as an organ and being better than Elton John because he uses his mouth sometimes you

just need your mouth. That's the logical conclusion to the tweet where someone's like, your dad, your dad gave his great brain. Damn. And he's like, it's called genes. That's the logic. I'm an artist. My instrument is giving brain.

My key instrument is my mouth. I just I wish I could be less of a they called me super head, okay. They took that name from me. I blew JZ. I wish I could be less of a pedant because everybody says that I can't stop thinking. Yes, yes, your brain's dying and we're at your mercy and you're the fucking Crimson King from Stephen King's Dark Tower series. But the big difference between you and Elton John is that those people paid money and that's

a free ticket to go and watch the fucking orange wet president, Holler. I was going to say Trump's his Elton John comments and like that whole that whole string of dialogue was basically the Trump version of the film, Jacob's Ladder. Yes. It's just like, it's all the things that are going on in this weird fantasmagoria that's just happening as your brain dies. Yep. Everyone's got as the lizard.

Yeah. It's just like the oxygen leaves its last cell. Trump is the only guy to like concurrent with our own reality be the angels in America version of himself. And then he's going to after this reality, this projection is going to finally flicker away and he's going to find himself back in like the toilet at Studio 54 1982 dying of a heart attack. And that was all just a projection of his mind and he's shitting and dying while cocaine

is like around both of his nostrils like a powdered donut. That's going to happen for the record. Here is the full Trump statement from his Montana rally about Elton John. I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don't have a musical instrument. That's like the opening salvo starting off strong. I have broken more Elton John records.

What is he talking about? Like he's talking about attendance at these venues. Oh, okay. By the way, he's probably obviously lying or he doesn't know and it's free to go as well. Exactly. So he goes and I, by the way, I don't have a musical instrument. I don't have a guitar or an organ.

No organ Elton has an organ and lots of and lots of other people helping know we've broken a lot of records. We've broken virtually every record because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room for basketball, for hockey and all of their sports. They need a lot of room. We don't need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records really.

We do it without like the musical instruments. This is the only musical, the mouth and hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain more important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more is much more important. The brain is the life. The brain is the life. I am the Duke of New York. I am a number one.

So, but anyway, bottom line here, it's always been fashionable to, you know, shit on America, but it's never been more fashionable because there literally is nothing to be proud of. I mean, what is wrong with you? Look at this fucking country. Look at the people who live here. It's a shit. Look at our leaders. Look at our government.

Everyone. The citizens. It's shit all the way down. Just a vile pig people. We're a pig race. Americans are a pig race. So reasons to love America 2018. Hit me.

Build me up, Buttercup. Forget DC. Forget Twitter. Forget what's on your screens. Thank you. I wish I could. And by that means by screens, he means like literally the news that he reports about this country on America's 242nd birthday.

The numbers in the poll below should be a hell of a lot higher. And it's like the percent of Americans who claim to be extremely proud to be American and it's only 54%. What the hell? Oh wait, no, no. In 2015, it was 54%. In 2018, it's 47%. What the hell?

How dare you people? What's wrong with you? So for the first time ever, less than half, more than half of the country is not extremely proud to be Americans. So he goes on here to say, our thought bubble, when we begin conflating America with partisan forces on either side, they've won. Those bastards. The strength of our country has been that it transcends the fads, fevers and foul ups

of the moment. The spoofs and goofs. So here are the reasons to, here's what we should consider when we're assessing the state of our country and how we feel about it. Number one, well, first bullet point, the US had more job openings this spring than unemployed Americans. Woo! Let's go.

Rick Flair, stop, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing's stopping this train. Are wages going up? Well, that's the funny thing is that they keep talking about how there's a labor shortage. Oh, we've got all these jobs and nobody will fill them because they refuse to pay more for the jobs.

They refuse to raise wages, which means there isn't a job shortage. It's just there's an amount of money that they're willing to pay for these jobs that they refuse to go above and they're willing to wait out everybody until the economy collapses again and there are more unemployed people that they can pick and keep the wages low because they have such a command and control of the economy that they basically have rejected the old Adam Smith and visible hand deal, which is that profits go up, employment goes up. That means that wages have to go up too. Nope, no more supply and demand.

That whole flow is over. We have control of the entire economic engine. We're going to fucking dictate the terms, which means no more wages go up. I'm going to keep it real with you, Chief. Let's go into a deflationary spiral. Gold standard. Bring it back. There's a lot of job openings out there.

That's reason number one to be happy. Number two, we travel frequently every day, 2.5 million of us board forty two thousand flights. Wow. Now, that is about the most condescending thing I've ever heard anyone say that's that's so awesome. Oh, you're down on yourself. Well, you get to go on a big plane ride.

That's the kind of by half. I have the flights in America are people flying to fight their Twitter rivals over arguments about LeBron, the other half are people being catfished. Just imagine if you're a little kid and your mom was searching for a compliment for you and all she could think of was something like, well, you have very good penmanship. Wouldn't that make you wonder what the hell is wrong with me that she had to reach that deep? But what's so odd is that we travel freely.

And I was thinking, well, yes, I mean, America is a confederation of states of which like the most important fact is that any of us could travel across their borders without checking, you know, going into check right or showing any official low bar or anything like that. I mean, I think that is a genuinely good thing, but it's also not true. The entire European Union. It's also not true. They made six, nine check in to come to LA.

So like really how true is how free are we really fact check you, but then you is just as free. Well, they took them a while. They're there. Okay. So what's the big fucking deal? Right. But I would think that like that.

That was my thing is that we have all these borders, but yet we are free to travel across them. You know, New York to Massachusetts or Connecticut or, you know, Oklahoma to Nebraska, whatever, we can go anywhere in this country we want. But then he just goes every day, 2.5 million of us board 42,000 flights. Like, I think that's real like, like political journalist mindset is that he's just thinking about flights. That's the only way how wonderful it is to get out of play.

Him and his fellow comp business class assholes going to fucking Raleigh Durham. I mean, yeah, again, I think it is good. I can get, you know, a flight anywhere I want in the country. But when I think of freedom, air travel is not really what comes to mind. Well, it's a perfect example, though, because it's got an invisible sorting mechanism that you don't, you know, you're technically, everyone is free to take an airplane anywhere. But in practice, you have to be able to afford it. Yeah.

And that fact is already a screen. It's invisible and doesn't. And so you get to already be above a higher clientele. I mean, but again, like this is just such an odd metric to go is it like 42,000 flights happen every day and like no one dies. Who cares? Yeah, it's just like, yeah, congratulations for minimal fucking effort needed to have a country.

Like you say, like, yeah, they're not just falling out of the air randomly. Yeah. We don't have fucking Bandidi on the countryside way laying passersby. Congratulations. It's not the fucking old West. Yeah. Mike Allen, like the reason he takes a fee, probably one of those guys who like flies every week, but it's like, oh, I have to go report on like Ben saw Ben sass's integrity

barbecue. Yeah. Whereas like most people, they're flying because like they finally won the rights to like a specific Android charger and divorce settlement. Like it's all very depressed. When you go to the airport, it just like just crushing. It's a bunch of people. It's the saddest thing you've ever seen all going to LA to appear as as a as a defendants

on Judge Judy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, oh, I have to go. I have to fly back to my home. I moved to New York to attend Mime School.

It's not going well. I have to do my yearly fly back to Oklahoma as part to blow into a breathalyzer as part of a weird settlement, my DUI case. Anyway, let me go through this magnetic machine that definitely gives you cancer so they can look at my morgolons dick and then I can pay $17 for a Fiji water. It's one of the most crushing places you can go. It just really. It's a brutalizing experience.

Yeah. Very sad. It's designed to do it. It's one of those institutions that exist to, you know, train people. First up, 25% of us do volunteer service. Wow. Yeah. I mean, again, it's sort of like.

I mean, I am part of that 25% in when I fave my followers replies to me on Twitter. But like, sort of like. Wonderful bit of. It's just me giving back to the community. The example you used before that like we are allowed to take planes in this country and that we don't, they don't fall out of the sky every day. Now he's saying 25% of us do volunteer service. I feel like if this is meant to make us feel proud to be an Americans, I think that we

need to have some sort of contrast with other countries. You know what I mean? Like is just like. Yes. Exactly. Just nobody else. Is that the base level? Is that below?

How can we judge this without a context? Yeah. But that's kind of how America functions. Well, this is. The intention of America is belt-sanding complex. Well, this is the next one. It says the US government spends close to $50 billion, which is 1% of the total federal budget authority helping the world, holy shit, billions more from U.S. based philanthropies.

How would you tell on yourself like that? You even put in there that it's 1% of the budget and you act like that's fucking like you're fucking Gucci main at the club with the gun that shoots hundred dollar bills or something. That's so disgusting because one it doesn't it's that is very low in world levels, by the way, compared to other developed countries. They give way more larger percentage. This is talking about foreign aid.

Yeah. And this is the other thing we have context for and it's low. The other thing that's funny about that is that the people that are most aggressively proud of American, if you ask them what the government does with their money, they like the thing they hate more than everything is spending money to help other countries. Number one, you go, we got to get rid of stuff and they're like, what all that foreign aid we're giving all they all hate us. We just give them all that money and it's and they have no idea and they all think that

it's up. And the higher they think that the percentage we do as the GDP in foreign aid is bigger than the percentage of the country that is under Sharia law. They legitimately think that. Yeah. I feel like this thing about philanthropies and like, oh, there's billions more from private philanthropies and our government spends all this money on on foreign aid giving back. Wonderful.

I call some of my friend, Libowitz's great quote about like rich people when they talk about giving back and she said, here's my advice, don't take in the first place. Well, that's the thing is that like all of that fucking aid is us putting bullet putting band aids on the bullet wounds that we create in other countries. And then because we sprang for like the Flintstones adhesive, we're fucking we're Mother Teresa fuck off. Did you see that story from this week about how in Ecuador, they had a campaign to like encourage breastfeeding.

Yes. And the fucking Nestle courtesy and the and the Trump administration say no, no, it was the end of Ecuador, Ecuador brought a motion to the UN that was designed to raise global awareness about breastfeeding newborn infants as like the best possible option for early childhood development of an infant. And everyone was like, great, yeah, absolutely, this should sail through. And then the U.S. threatened to cut off all of Ecuador's military and the foreign aid that we're so proud of unless they drop this because of the influence of the people who

make baby formula. Yep. Nestle. Yeah. So that foreign aid just playing rocks, which is that sort of global empire means, by the way, just you go into every other country and tell people what they can do with their tits because like some guy you met at Bohemian Grove, who you jacked off with. Well, I mean, it's like, come on, my my son also wants to go to mime school.

You know, it's like the fucking Roman Roman Empire marches into your village, cuts everyone's heads off, sells everyone in the slavery, takes it over, and then they build a fucking bridge to make it easier for the troops to get in and garrison it and then you complain to them, this is bullshit. And they say, what, look, we built this bridge. Those aqueducts are still standing though, so you're welcome. Here we go. Next item on the Love America agenda, Americans are part of just 39 percent of the world

population judged by freedom house to be free. Wow. We got 10 out of 10 freedoms by the way. From Raytheon presents freedom. I would again, I have no idea what freedom house is. Oh, it's a it's a fucking CIA front think tank. Yeah, I was going to say I was a Cold War thing. I would bet any amount of money.

It's some incredibly right. It's like listening. Remember when we did with with Libby, I think the the Cato Institute's ranking of like the freest countries in the world are the freest states in America. And it's like all like the thing they it's like occupational licensing is like the number one most free thing. So yeah, Saudi Arabia is like freer than Ireland by their, you know, this is criteria. So yeah, no, freedom house.

So we were joining 40 percent of the world, which again, it's like not that exclusive. That's a lot of people like freedom is three percent of the world's population. So that's way more than my freedom. They mean like, you know, liberal democracy and parenthetically, one of the fellows at freedom house is a guy named Arch Puddington. Fuck you. No, he's not. Look at his face.

We should make. Hold on. We make bro. We're an iPad. Exactly. We should make this the image for the week show just so people have a context for what I'm talking about when I talk about Arch Mother fucking Puddington Arch. Can you stop coming the second we take this photo?

No. Okay. Anyway, it's a great organization. So it's just like the U.S. government says U.S. government rocks. So it's like, yeah, but like, even by their, you know, paltry standards for what freedom means, which I'm assuming means like some combination of market shifts and liberal markets and liberal democracy, basically like, you know, quite a bit of the rest of the world has that. It's not like, you know, if we're looking, again, if we're looking for things to be proud

of as an American specifically, like that's also a very weak statistic. Okay, next, next item, violent crime in the U.S. has fallen sharply over the past quarter century. I mean, again, that's like, congratulations. That's good news. But, you know, I don't. But once again, that's like, okay, we aren't murdering each other as much as we were. Congratulations.

And also, why was it so high in the first place? And also like you. We've got our drinking under control the United States. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you also asked the people like the foreign aid thing, you asked the people who are the most asshole-ishly proud of America. Yeah.

Once again, what they think violent crime is like, it's about 120 percent. Yep. Yeah. So the world they live in, this is so crucial. So the world that this person lives in, the person that loves America lives in is one in which the foreign aid that this thing, this guy says is proof America is good, is bad and way worse than it really is. And at the same time, he thinks that the crime, which this guy says makes us good because

it's low, is actually incredibly high. So the American who loves America loves a version where everything is bad, according to this guy, where we're giving tons of money to bad foreigners and the crime is out of control. Okay. And he lives in a country where we're very generous and crime is low. This is the next bullet point. Crime in New York City plunges to a level not seen since the 1950s.

So he's just padding out these reasons. That's the same. That's the same reason. That's just a subset. That's the exact same thing. That's just a subset. So if you lived in New York City, I'm glad that crime is historically low at the moment. But again, like the way, like you think Donald Trump, for instance, believes that to be true.

No. And also the way that we created this crime drop, I mean, a lot of it is just brutal authoritarianism that's only getting worse. Okay. Next up, powered by a booming stock market and a strong economy, charitable giving in the U.S. last year exceeded $400 billion in a single year for the first time. I feel like that's just a repetition of our like, no, it's the same thing. It's just another generosity.

But also that's even worse because when you're talking about charitable giving, you're mostly talking in terms of the raw numbers. You're talking about some asshole having a dedicated paying like the philharmonic to do a wing of their theater with his name on it or something or buying a library at their alma mater that they're going to get their name on. Just giving money to already incredibly rich nonprofit organizations so that they can put their name on. And so that they can have like, yeah, I'm, I'm charitably giving a new, really luxurious

seats to the opera that I attend 40 times a year. Like that's charitable. Yeah. Yeah. Most, most major universities now are just like hedge funds with lectures attached. Yeah. And yeah, no, you can still give to them and still technically charity. But even if you'd still take that, and there's still like a few hundred billion of charitable

donations kicking around, it doesn't, you look at the other numbers, like you look at say like natal mortality in the United States, it's very clear it's not even scratching the surface of improving people's lives on a large scale. Charity, private charity is completely ineffective at any of the systemic problems that you would get from like, you know, actually forcing people to make a contribution that isn't like, oh yeah, could you name the, could you name this the my name plus Richard Wagner opera center? Yeah.

I'm, I'm opening a chain of soup kitchens for the indigent where you only have to do is dance for me and then I'll pay and I'll give you food. There was, I just, I, there was like some like dumb op-ed in the New York Times a couple months ago. And I just like looked up the guy because I was interested in him because he was like, so you tell he was like the non-cynical rich person, he just sort of happened into a bunch of money and he was like an evil person, but he doesn't think he's evil. And under whoever this was, I forgot who it was, I posted this section of their Wikipedia

where it was their charity and their charity was that they take shrapnel from mass shootings and sell necklaces to like raise awareness of gun control. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. That's like the good portion of charity. That type of bullshit. That's just, but a slice of the $400 million we spent over here. Yeah.

Some of Redstone gave another $100 million to is keeping my wife out of the house foundation. Yeah. Yeah. All right. This is the, this is the last reason and it may be my favorite. About 1.3 million of us are on active duty in the military. Awesome. 100% freaking awesome, my man.

About 20 million of us once served, but per the Pentagon, the number of Americans with firsthand experience with service members or veterans has declined precipitously since the beginning of the all volunteer military in 1973. So he's saying that like, But at the end there's actually things are bad. Well, yeah. Not enough of us know the truth. He's saying that like a reason to love America is 1.3 million of us are active duty troops,

but he's also saying it's bad because the number of Americans who are friends with active duty troops are declining. And what I wish he would have said is I wish he would have gotten the number of like, you know, the, uh, the number of Americans who have a firsthand combat experience in one of America's wars is rapidly declining. Let's do better. Let's get that number higher. Come on folks.

The number, we need mass conscription and human wave attacks. The number of Americans who would have been in special forces that they didn't pull their hamstrings all time high of 13 million Ohioans. We're going to fucking we're going to invade Iran Iran and use the same tactics they used against Iraq. We're going to do human waves of of of conscripted midwesterners by zone versus buzz. Mike closes it out by saying there's plenty we can do better and that our leaders should do better.

I don't know. We probably now we're fucking killing the best we can now we're giving us a scent of our fucking GDP to and he says we write about that on Axios all day every day Axios AM's highest pursuit is to give you a clear-eyed view of a disruptive world so you can make smarter decisions. Wait a minute. Disruptive world. Disruptive world.

Disruptive world. This is like the news service in the world. The world's what gets disrupted Axios is like what the people in demolition man read. This is so bad. Have a joy. Joy day. Yeah. But no, the world is what gets disrupted.

Don't. Don't think you hard about it. Yeah. It can't be disruptive. It's being disrupted by Axios but they're here to give you the information. They're here to give you the statistics that you need to make sharp clear-eyed decisions. I feel faint. So moving on now I'd like to turn on this our Fourth of July episode to a small beach

Oceanside community a small summer town and I'd like to remind all you people that Amity means friendship and our beaches will be open for the Fourth of July regardless of what you've heard about it. There is a minor incident with a barracuda of some kind. Which spelling of minor? There's nothing to do with the guy we're talking about. Nothing. Okay.

Absolutely zero zero zero. Legitly. We are traveling to the island of Martha's Vineyard. Martha's Vineyard. To check in with one of its more famous residents in his now very public struggle to get invited to parties. I'm talking of course about Alan Dershowitz. I'm leaving on a jet plane don't put my name in the flight record.

Wifi lit. Yeah. Alan Dershowitz. Been in the news. He's had a lot of lives and I think now I appreciate now that he's becoming American now scarred. Yeah. Just like a heavily doc you there have been like seven New York Times articles about this

guy's boring arguments at his vacation home. Now scarred. That's like pure minutiae. Someone tally this is his struggle. There are I think four different pieces in the New York Times this week. Using a total of six writers in the same to cover the travails of Alan Dershowitz. And what he claims is his sort of being blacklisted from Martha's Vineyard for his very brave and principled stand to to I don't know defend Trump from the Mueller investigation.

The obscenity of this cannot be overstated of in this time in this moment in world history devoting irreplaceable resources of this magnitude at the most influential news organization in the world probably and use it for this end obscene disgusting. So let's diving into it this is from Chilmark, Massachusetts in an article by Jess Bidgood and Julie Boseman for years that's two writers and literally doing anything else. So for years Alan Dershowitz the lawyer and professor emeritus at Harvard Law School has been a garrulous fixture in this handsome gray shingled town on Martha's Vineyard. He holds court from a rocking chair on the porch at the Chilmark General Store drinking

coffee and greeting fellow regulars. He strolls down Lucy Vincent Beach gabbing on his cell phone along the way. Imagine you spent three decades like artificially increasing the the price of copper and some hapless nation in like the Horn of Africa just selling away chipping away little bits of your soul. Just being the worst person you can be also you could buy this vacation home here and your reward as you walk into the General Store and this ancient corpse is like how are you doing.

People are being very unfair. I'm just imagining I'm not imagining Dershow what being garrulous and walking along the beach and then just like coming up from coming up behind someone and just going why aren't you going in the water. Get in the water get in there. Did y'all see that picture of him in that skin tight sort of rayon shirt. There's this picture of him he's wearing this this very very very garish shirt and it's skin tight.

He is looking low key. He looked bad dude like I jacked off to it but I wasn't even I wasn't even thinking about him when I came. He was just like awful. He was just like one of the guys from entourage when they go to the club. It was grotesque. So but it says but this summer Mr. Dershow it says that because he has expressed views that back President Trump he no longer feels so welcome on the vineyard a summertime epicenter

of progressive values money and sheer democratic power in the United States. I never thought I would see McCarthyism come to Martha's Vineyard but I have Mr. Dershowitz wrote in an opinion column last week in the Hill revealing that he has been on the receiving end of a social chill for friends here. By the way McCarthyism doesn't refer to social chill it doesn't refer to being socially ostracized from your friend group. It's quite a bit stronger than that prisons have your livelihood destroyed. That's what McCarthy did he held hearings where he's like why are 42 of my mutual followers

still following this account. So for them it is enough that what I have said about the Constitution might help Trump he wrote so they are shunning me and trying to ban me from their social life on Martha's Vineyard. Oh no baby this really is that was scarred because everyone in this story just there is no hero in the story. No one in the story is good. Oh God these like self-righteous fucking rich ass.

I want to get to the I want to get to the Martha's Vineyard crowd that's shunning him for defending Trump in a second but I need I need to go now to even worse than this. A second New York Times article by their big shot political reporter named Jeremy W. Peters. This is a guy. This guy came on my radar just last week because he said one of the dumb he is a national political reporter for the New York Times and he said something to the effect of using the label right wing to you know paint this broad stroke of everyone from a Trump supporter to libertarians shows how ignorant you are of the many shades of being conservative.

He was literally saying that like you know you're attacking me for saying this but you're missing the huge difference between Ron Paul supporters and Donald Trump's voters. We've covered this before. Everyone who voted for anyone who seriously they're all Trump Ron Paul in 2012 or before that are all on the Trump they all turned into frogs. The many shades of conservatism from Ulster Orange to Division Azul that's very good. He goes I had called Mr. Dershowitz on Tuesday to tell him I was going to be on the island for a long planned vacation and I suggested we get together to talk about the stir he

kicked up when he wrote in a cum blah blah blah so this asshole is going there. I can't believe he spoke to Muffy that way. This asshole is going to the vineyard for his fucking vacation and he's got to make it a work vacation by getting in on this Alan Dershowitz kick and giving him one of the most kiss ass interviews I've ever read. So he goes Dershowitz says here I'm enjoying this he told me it's a red badge of courage. He said he believes political debate today has essentially degenerated into a fight over one question.

Are you for or against Mr. Trump. We live in a red socks Yankees world he said and you have to pick a team. Shut the fuck up dude. Mr. Dershowitz said he said the local library Mr. Dershowitz said told him they can't find the time for him to give his regular summer talk this year blah blah blah. He goes on here he says he goes you're no stranger. This is where the actual interview starts. Peter's Jeremy Peters says you're no stranger to defending people who are unpopular.

Is this actually worse than when you defended OJ Simpson. He says Dershowitz responds of course or Klaus von Bülow or Leona Helmsley or Michael Milken or Mike Tyson just in case you forgot about all those other utterly reprehensible and evil people he's helped weasel their way out of legal trouble. He's there to remind you that yes indeed I was there helping them as well and a very principled way he goes this is much worse than all that because in those cases people were critical of me but they were prepared to discuss it. They were prepared to have a dialogue here the people that I'm objecting to want to

stop the dialogue. They don't want to have the conversation. It will upset people at the dinner party or on the porch. This is like safe spaces in colleges does he think that like the entire town of Martha's Vineyard or wherever he goes like people are just I don't know obligated to have a dialogue with him yes some fucking interminable yes like about Trump and that just shows the utter hypocrisy of conservatives who claim that what the thing that they believe in politics is that politics are not totalizing right like there's political spirit and then there's

the market and the real world and they don't and sports yeah it's like you don't the sport politics stops and you can't use politics to control other people live you have to let them live and that's what they believe about politics but right here you're seeing that for conservatives having power in the real world in terms of writing laws and controlling legislation and and and even directing the political debate that's not enough you need everyone in the social sphere to upset you too you need to get respected for having political views you need to be indulged for having political views you have to get a hearing that no reasonable person could argue you deserve is just some asshole but to their mind political power

extends tendril like down to the roots of all social interaction well you say that Matt but Peter's asked him you reject the label Trump supporter don't you he says absolutely I'm a Hillary Clinton liberal Democrat who's trying hard to restore Congress to the Democrats so he goes you enjoy being provocative and contrarian I'm a teacher and a professor my job is to provoke and stimulate conversation the thing I hate most is people who want to shut off the conversation the thing I hate the most is people who just don't want to fucking talk to me no you're required to listen to me but listen to how Peter is like flatters him with like he goes people only hear one word Trump Dersh responds that's what reminds

me of McCarthyism when you couldn't speak out on certain issues I'm not comparing myself pause first of all I'm enjoying this so understand that I'm actually laughing you have to pretend to be dumb because once you get sophisticated and nuanced you're politically incorrect there's no nuance there's no sophistication about this don't try to slice the salami thinly this is just baloney I grew up in New York and I'm a Red Sox Sam I can see how this guy got so many people off murder I could see why you would want to hang around him having a dinner party for four hours so he goes Peter's continues and he asks he says during Vietnam in the 1970s you had thousands of people dying every month a president who had so clearly

broken the law how is that somehow not as bad as today because people think people seem to think today is worse by the way speaking of Martha's Vineyard someone did try to literally push Robert McNamara off the ferry going to Martha's Vineyard and died of the Vietnam War so someone sees Dersh on the ferry I'm not saying do that but just be aware of the history that's come before you he goes with Trump it's personal his personal style is so confrontational he provokes he's a brilliant politician and let me tell you why he's pushing Democrats to the left because extremism provokes extremism and the Democrats can't win from the left they can only win from the center in a national election so his fondest hope

is that all these jewel encrusted duvap hire millionaires I'll agree on this point I like that he says they can only win from the center and just a bit higher he just said I'm a Hillary Clinton Democrat again this goes back to basically our last two shows they you tried that you lost to Donald Trump no so he goes he go blah blah blah and he goes they you know these articles in the Times and the globe may hurt me on Martha's Vineyard but they help Trump if there's one thing you quote me on I want it to be that so that's Dersh in his own also I do not know what happened my first wife okay this is where I'm going this is where I'm going with this segment like you know you see Alan Dershowitz on TV

and you think to yourself God what a tiresome asshole this guy is I can't believe I have to see his dumb ugly face on TV for these people on the vineyard they have clearly they clearly have a problem with him now because he has gone on Fox News or Tucker to defend Trump from the Mueller investigation because this is what really excites and animates them is is you know impeaching Trump and high crimes in this daddy Mueller spank me here's my comment in the years before this did none of these people want to socially ostracize Alan Dershowitz for fucking kids allegedly yeah or maybe also allegedly killing his first wife yeah here's okay real real quick or any of the things he said about Israel yeah of course not that's

all acceptable to them because guess what half of those motherfuckers are probably on the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs as well oh yeah just in case you don't know what I'm talking about Alan Dershowitz was one of many names that turned up on the flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein's private plane yep Alan Dershowitz took set many private flights with someone who was once his friend he now claims he is not a friends with and only spoke to about raising money for Harvard but they have a friendship that goes back to 1997 and Alan Dershowitz and again in case you don't know Jeffrey Epstein is like the millionaire financier who went to jail for suborning sex suborning sex from a minor could have done much worse

time but what do you know it Alan Dershowitz who again was on his private flights to his quote Lolita Island this is a guy who literally had a ring of underage girls acting as his sex slaves yeah all in this is in documented in federal court wouldn't you know it Alan Dershowitz was involved in his legal defense and was also involved in he was involved in crafting the plea that sent Jeffrey Epstein to prison for a very short amount of time for what the crimes he did but most importantly kept it out of federal court and also kept any of the the victims or accusers from testifying yeah or releasing any of the other names of like for you know naming anyone else Donald Trump in 2002 tells New York magazine I've

known Jeff for 15 years terrific guy he's a lot of fun to be with it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as I do and many of them are on the younger side no doubt about it Jeffrey enjoys his social life so I'm reading a hashtag QAnon he was going under cover dude I'm reading Donald Trump was going under cover on that plane I'm reading that from Gawker who did a great right up of this when these these names got leaked he goes what's more I'm ready now what's more Dershowitz told American lawyer he is loyal to his wife who is always by his side I've been married to the same woman for 28 years she goes with me everywhere people know that I won't argue a case or give a speech unless my wife travels

with me this is not the profile of someone who screws around but according to the flight logs Dershowitz was close enough to Epstein to have accompanied him on a flight from Palm Beach to New Jersey's Teterboro airport as early as December 1997 on that flight the pair was accompanied by a number of people one unidentified female a hazel a and also Claire the logs also show Dershowitz on a flight from Bedford mass to Teterboro in October 1998 a flight from Teterboro to Martha's vineyard in 1999 and a 2005 trip from Massachusetts to Montreal showing him traveling with Epstein Tatiana and others one things the logs don't show Dershowitz his wife traveling with him he is denied all of this he says he claims

that his relationship with Epstein was entirely professional and that allegations that you were chummy were a total bum rap okay he was specifically named by one of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers as a person that Jeffrey Epstein made her have sex with this was in a this was in federal court I just if we are shutting out somebody who is exactly like a Frank Miller character in public life like a villain in a Frank Miller yes what have we become listen to this Dershowitz would later play a significant role in negotiating the NPA on Epstein's behalf indeed Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the southern district of Florida not only to Epstein but also to any potential

co-conspirators of Epstein thus Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement with a provision that provided protection for himself against criminal prosecution in Florida for sexually abusing Jane Doe number three so this guy knows the law and I think it's interesting like his two most famous cases are O.J. Simpson which we all know about and Klaus von Bülow Klaus von Bülow if you don't know about was another very rich man who very whose wife died under very suspicious circumstances you can take this moment to queue up your menaker movie corner pick of the week for Barbé Schroeder's reversal of fortune you'd like to see Jeremy Irons in his Academy Award-winning role playing Klaus von Bülow highly recommend it it's a

great film Jeremy Irons who is pretty much become Klaus von Bülow later in his life it says Dershowitz says you know I've been with my wife for 28 years that's his second wife yeah he had a wife before that who also died under very suspicious circumstances here is what we know according to like of what little can be is he's done a magnificent job of scrubbing her from the public record but apparently she committed suicide after a very brutal child divorce and child custody battle in which she alleged physical and emotional abuse on behalf of Mr. Dershowitz that she then died very mysteriously and there's almost no mention of her but I suggested it before Google Alan Dershowitz first wife for some

interesting reading material I just think it's weird that like his most famous legal maneuver is helping rich men get a very obviously guilty rich men getting away with murdering their wives when his first wife died under very suspicious circumstances in the middle of a bitter divorce and custody battle odd then add to that his close I'm sorry close relationship with an actual pedophile and sex trafficking psychopath like Jeffrey Epstein who had a personal plane that basically was a prostitution service for his very rich and powerful friends including Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton and Donald Trump and Stephen Pinker of Harvard as well wait Stephen Pinker was in the flight logs again like this is

this is this is here Sam sure as Mr. Dershowitz would tell you like this wouldn't hold up in court I'm just saying like these are these are the facts that we know and you can judge for yourself this is the person whose social life became the all abiding obsession of the most powerful and influential news organization in the world in the past week nowhere in those six are in the five or six articles or even in this interview with Jeremy Peters did they ask him anything about his connections to Jeffrey Epstein and his appearance on his private plane well that's not about his ideas and this is really about the closing of people's mind you know what I really hate when people will try to shut down that conversation yeah

he also mentions in his many his many TV appearances on this he he compares it to McCarthyism and he also compares it to college safe spaces you know that little buzzword that will activate the pleasure centers and the debate in the minds of you know Tucker Carlson's audience and he mentions it in the New York Times as well it's again very funny that he would mention trying to shut down debate on college campuses because he has literally been at the forefront of attacking any university public or private that will host any kind of any kind of media any kind of just not forget be just them and just any Palestinian speaker on campus he has demanded that he be allowed to appear on stage together and offer a rebuttal and

if not then their funding should be exactly so he is very much at the forefront of creating a safe space for you know Zionism on American campuses and has attacked Finkelstein and again look it up Finkelstein found not just fall outright falsehoods in Ellen Dershowitz's case for Israel where he claimed 70,000 Palestinians were exiled in the Nakba at a zero on their pal but also outright plagiarism in his footnotes got Norman Finkelstein denied tenure and has since moved on so this is Ellen Dershowitz and this is this is the guy who's been given basically unfettered access not just to Fox News but to the New York Times to paint this case about himself as a kind of the lone principled man the guy who was born in New York who roots

for the Red Sox that's how he's just a grotesque gremlin and I'm sorry like also probably a fucking rapist yeah allegedly allegedly you know cover our asses here but like I'm just saying like but it's not at all that holistically what the fuck were you doing on Jeffrey Epstein's private plane just the thing I don't even understand from the New York Times this point of view is you can't even use the cynical explanation of why you know if it bleeds it leads the American people aren't paying for Dersh news Dersh is not a popular and and well-known figure across America who has a lot of fans who are invested in his social life he is not Ariana Grande but their commitment to just maintaining this discourse about discourse

in the face of just collapsing reality it's it's it's insane it's it's a cargo cult at this point it's like they're putting they're sucking saying novellas is the fucking ship sinks I mean I wanted I wanted to talk about Dershowitz because I find him so personally repellent for so many reasons but like this is also another example of again Donald Trump was on those flight locks Donald Trump was very close friends with Jeffrey Epstein okay and I just think it's interesting now that like a huge part of Trump's support like we've talked before about the QAnon people and so much of the conspiracy theories that now dominate our time all revolve around child sexual abuse and child trafficking for the purposes of

prostitution and these people they seem to see evidence of this everywhere except for actual documented cases of child abuse and molestation just this week now what is it House GOP Jim Jordan Jordan freedom caucus freedom caught head of the freedom caucus now seven former students of his or have said that called a paterno yeah he was the Joe paterno to the Jerry Sandusky figure in this college wrestling team how how just like statistically you're the Republican Party how do you have two guys over the course of the decade in House leadership who are pedophilia affiliated wrestling coaches how it's a style how Felix by I would say by 2024 a third of the GOP caucus will be people who appeared on sexually

a predator sexually abusive wrestling coaches yeah I mean that's the way forward yeah clearly that's yeah and not just that staying in Ohio in the Cincinnati area there was just an article together right here has drawn on pedophile wrestling coaches was like Dennis Hasterd who's like we need another wrinkle to his character oh he's beholden to a local ice cream baron in Illinois like that just the third thing we need for him a third kind of heat oh my god but yes a judge and Trump supporter in the Cincinnati area was convicted of human trafficking he was he was a he was uh he was a conservative activist and a judge hang judge he was a hanging judge known for his draconian treatment of law and order he was a long time

conservative activist who apparently also was a trailer park slumlord who uh would uh sell heroine to his teenage renters and then make them teenage runaways and give them heroin and make them pay rent in sexual favors yep with under you know minors again young girls in exactly the same way Epstein was was doing yeah you know that sounds bad but I would rather go to a big empty field in New Mexico or in Arizona next to an old camp with some fucking knocked over bottles where I've decided is a rape center and just kick over uh the the fucking tanks of water that people put out for migrants that's that's doing more to stop child abuse well what I mean what what did we say they want a quest they can never actually be completed yeah because they're chasing a phantom

when the real fucking goblin is out there yeah and then what they do is they say you know Q and I was talking about now well this is an op by the feds this is an op by the the deep state that's opposing trump uh they were creating false accusations so actual cases of pedophilia actual victims fake false flags anything you can just make out of whole cloth on twitter is way more real even though there's no victim and no even conceivable person associated with it for our most online americans uh nothing is real nothing is real anymore I mean everything is as real as everything else yeah it's just a smooth flat plane you can just rearrange the elements however you want because they all have equal weight everything is either like russian active measures or it's

the hollywood pedophiles creating smoke screen for you nothing's actually happening uh everyone who doesn't talk to you in your life anymore is part of that conspiracy yeah 100 freaking awesome my man it's just astounding that there's not been any piece of art really that I can think of that has captured the sense of unreality that is totally pervasive now but damn you're talking about the matrix that did not do a great job I don't know I mean I just think it's it's so uh perverse in it's in people's just stead adamant and steadfast refusal to recognize the everyday evil that is just in front of their face and instead enlisting all of it into this broke and idiotic conspiracy in which donald trump is somehow a good person yeah that's the most insane

thing about it well yeah that's not it's not even like the like secret arrest or what that's not as insane as the thing where it's like donald trump is altruistic yes yeah he would sacrifice anything for anybody at any time the keystone delusion that undergrads every other delusion is their fundamental hallucinatory idea of who donald trump is as a person this venal monster who encapsulates every negative trait he is like if they know a cross who's stupid just a reptilian monster like if you stuffed a sack with the seven deadly sins and put it in a fucking microwave for an hour it would be donald trump just disgusting viscerally repellent on every level but if you the space that has to be traversed mentally to turn that person into a harbinger of good

who cares about human beings cares about doing the right thing has some conception of god or duty that is such a herculean mind-breaking leap that after that everything else is child's play oh how hard is it going to be at this point to say that you know oh hillary clinton she flew commercial instead of private from dc this week well that means she's clearly having her accounts frozen and is about to be arrested and by the way from the uh the music from what the stories i've read about jim jordan uh like he was way fucking worse than paterno in terms of like how how he was not even win no but in terms of how literally incredible his idea that i didn't know what was going on at least paterno was like actually senile at some point yeah you're like yeah jim jordan is like

37 yeah like he's apparently everyone knew about this this doctor who apparently uh like you would go in like you know for uh having like the wrestling ear or like a hurt call flower ear call a flower ear like a thumb and he'd be like okay strip those shorts off you know like he would have to touch your dick every time you went in for anything oh boy jesus christ oh god it's just it's uh it's so gross and like this asshole is probably he's not gonna resign no he's not he's gonna stay in he's gonna stay in eric reedens eric reedens like the just yeah another fucking sexual predator yeah like the rapist the rapist thieves navy seal yeah openly in power governor of missouri hasn't resigned no he resigned oh he resigned okay but it's like how long it took him an insane amount

how fucking long it took him it was months after he got indicted for for a fucking revenge porn he survived for months after being indicted for sex crime and the g.o.p put out a statement after he got charged that it was a politically motivated fake news and you know it's funny here this this goes back to like when we uh our last episode when we talked about dan fife dog in his book and it reminds me what i said like that these people they absolutely can never identify a villain or connect a villain an obvious villain or evil act with a policy or a party and why can't they do that with jeffrey ebsen and trump oh gee i wonder why it's because of fucking bill clinton that's why it's because they would cover a lot of their own they would shit as well every it's

because these people are monsters that was what was breathtaking about about the 2016 election is because you watch trump and you thought well yeah these are all going to destroy them every single one of these negative things but every single negative story about trump had a mirrored story about the clinton's now sometimes you could argue they were trumped up or they weren't fair but they were credible and every single element like the sex stuff clinton was a sex monster his his incredibly scandalous tax fraud charity clinton foundation yep his his unfair business practices maybe not the clinton's but everyone who donates the clinton's for sure like high amps but because that is they're all the same they're all the same in that they're all powerful

people and this is how extremely powerful people conduct themselves and also the fact that literally all of them were not just friends with jeffrey ebsen but also harvey rhinstein it's amazing it's a credits i'm fucking believable it's amazing it's like it's a monster we're ruling over us the same hundred people who were friends with the same five people who were responsible for probably 80 percent of rapes in america for like 20 years it's fucking and somehow it's insane and somehow it's that we take anything from it but like this is a completely rotted out system this is that's what's insane these disgusting that's just like cadre of the fucking cast of sallow just disgusting hogs at the top of the trough just shitting all jizzing all over us and we look up at this and

mass majority of insist on saying you know it's that one really big fat hog up there he's causing all the trouble and if we got rid of him then we'd be fine because like that's the clinton people who are so horrified by trump when they're buddy buddy and it's the same with these trump idiots who somehow think that trump is not embedded in this network of corruption and double dealing and crony capitalism and literal child abuse look at look at both sides explanations for like why trump and hit and the clittons were friends until like 2015 or 2016 it's for hillary it's like oh she attended they attended his wedding ironically yeah for for trump it's like oh they were friends with him until he decided to speak out about what was really going on right

right you it is a level of dilute it's their show they're watching their shows yes you there is no one-to-one follow through there is no you can't connect the dots all these people were friends with each other and they're just vying for the same piece of this pie and they're all in this horrifying fucking goblin world together because it's that you make it into pro wrestling yeah donald trump turned face but when he went on the down the escalator called maxiskin rapist yes exactly billy was on an undercover irony mission exactly but like it's like they're watching tv and they're getting so mad at it and it's like you could turn the tv off or smash the tv it's like yeah but i'm watching i like it it's like if they if they if they changed my stories if they

changed it they wouldn't be able to enjoy it at the same sort of libidinal fucking diploma voyeuristic mindset that they have i mean like clinton's aside i mean that again it goes back to just the worst candidate you could run against trump forever just only one only one just only one uniquely uh vulnerable only you know uh but like okay just going forward like jim jordan right how he's like the head of the house freedom caucus or one of the top god the house freedom caucus like probably like a nucleus of power and people that represent like a clear and present danger to all life on the planet yes like that should be rooted out you know entirely that they're an enemy of like not just civil society but like our continued existence on this planet

like the the most hooting, baying, evil psychos that this country is capable of producing yeah how like how hard would it be you know talk about identifying a villain exaggerating making you know just tie that fucking wrestling doctor to the house freedom caucus and put his picture just call them the house pedophilia yeah republicans fucking milk toast ass nancy pelosi in the chagovara they say every single fucking democrat to her no matter what they do nancy pelosi the what does they always say san francisco values start saying jim jordan values yeah but when you're thinking about you know like oh wait but chuck schuber's imaginary long island couple actually likes pedophile wrestling coaches yeah the so the invisible people that tell him everywhere

uh how about oh uh just news this week uh bill shine former vp of fox news who who literally covered up and threatened covered up all of the fucking rapes and sexual abuse that was going on there threatened all of the women who tried to come forward about it presided over a massive cover-up of a ring of untold abuse and horrors of which we really only have like a keyhole view of like but if you do of what we know already is bone chilling enough imagine what was going on that we don't know about monsters yeah like uns unspeakable that asshole is now uh working in the trump white house thing okay back again i mean like is anyone is anyone in the supposed opposition party just gonna like do what they've done to the clinton's and not without fucking good

cause yeah but you have to cut this off you're right cut the cleanse off and look what happens if you do that like gilla brand you would remember in filipi reyes is like a fucking in this bitch yeah she's dead over yeah and oh my god i mean i don't know how bad that's hurt her but probably not very bad probably not that because she made that she's very canny and she made the calculated move that the quintons are weak enough now to move against well gilla brand killer and i think she's correct about that she made a calculated decision that by looking at the terrain the clintons are waning not going to be able to hurt her she gains more from denouncing them and cutting them off and being able to you know criticize off of them and i think she was probably right

but if you're not that bold or maybe not that smart you're still scared of the clintons gilla brand is a killer gilla brand has like uh absolutely preternatural like level of instinct and sort of knowing when to do the right move except for endorsing crowded over okay that's a bungalow and then she tried to flip it yeah but but um it's not that they're afraid of clinton it's they're afraid of not getting money from hyam saban they're afraid of not getting money from what's that fucking billboard asshole stare yeah yeah yeah time stare yeah because they got the hand on the fucking chicken switch here's the thing at you know the the highest levels of power i mean it's like almost guaranteed that like you know one out of every five of every one of these

guys is some kind of predator yes all right so if you want to like you know uh inoculate yourself against like either the people in power or your donors having this come back to bite you in your ass how about this don't take their money don't hang out with them get better fucking crazy getting crazy you know yeah cut off the fucking clintons cut them off they're not even they're fucking poisoned the clintons are going to be dead from like a fucking prime you can only get from vegan hot dogs in a few years like they don't matter what matters is their donors their donors are what matters no one you gotta cut off the conduit they have a million other people they can go through though well get rid of them too you gotta get rid of all of them you gotta get

rid of all the actual political people who are connected to this this disgusting capillary fucking again like all these people who who give money to both parties equally the Koch brothers more money to Cuomo than those scottl trump gave money to Cuomo yeah Cuomo won't even give it back he gave money to Cuomo he gave money to a billion fucking democrats he gave it to rama manual how much more do you need to know again all these people are friends with each other and guess what they're probably all depraved sexually depraved monsters and predators we know for a fact that that is how they sort of initiate themselves under the really high levels of like evil it's like how you can tell us that somebody's trustworthy because you know their secrets all right yeah we should

move on okay boys all right here's a palette cleanse for you in our reading series to close out this episode i have we are returning again to the gray lady the new york times in an absolute doozy of an article that i knew we had to do on the show as soon as i saw it um i guess this is sort of a uh uh this would be a pairing with uh our live show in san francisco when we did the article about the sort of utopian community in montana that's being planned by a group of tech bros yes people who are frequented this is another this is an article that provides another another peek inside the the minds lives and spirits of silicon valley tech entrepreneur titans yes our new our new philosopher king yeah the headline is tech elites recreate burning man

inside their living rooms like a modern okay here this is by alex williams and the sub ahead is like a modern version of a medieval minstrel a singer named jess magic is helping a list entrepreneurs get in touch with their inner child in private song versations song versations i guess i don't feel so good can you imagine where okay my tummy hurts i'm getting faint can i can i talk to matt's tummy oh let's begin i'm i'm gonna need you to stop hurting my homie to chad maretta a silicon valley ap guru the intimate salons of jess magic a new age troubadour are like drugs without taking anything this is this is where we're at now uh rich people are getting high without taking drugs it's as much fun as just holding your breath for a long time think

about how fucking lame that is you know how we just spent like 40 minutes talking about every depraved thing rich people do this is how cursed the new generation of rich people are they do just as much harm to the world but they're like oh uh we get high by listening to uh new low base rhythms and open neural pathways to us we invented a new way of drinking water oh god between that and like the dark magic of rohemian grove or something i would just take that give me yeah give me the hell fire give me the yellow off yeah absolutely to sanjeev sidhu a so-called software savant whose fortune was once estimated at over six billion awesome miss magik's invitation only salons are the perfect escape from a business culture where one upsmanship is crowding out our

need to connect makes you think to jason silva a tech futurist and brian's brother yeah he started the app grotator send some shots to your pit okay jason silva no possibly related to brian is uh the tech futurist and tv personality uh to her gatherings are a safe space for entrepreneurs who sacrifice friendships relationships and time only to realize that it's lonely at the top tech elites are who are looking for more than extra zeros in their bank statements are finding it and finding it in an unlikely place so-called song versations emotion heavy gatherings that combine philosophical rap sessions with improvised music run by a ukulele strumming song stress who describes herself

as a artist oh no so not only do we have song versations being coined here but also the title artist why are you i'm not an artist i'm a heart you know i'm not really doing this to me by the way i um i have to say i kind of um the people who are like giving these fucking bored humans therapy with music and probably charging them like hundreds of thousands of dollars right like good for you this is you're getting over on them like this good for you honestly if just magic is like an elaborate con and she was like good for her just if i'm inflicting on it just in it on on us it's just so innervating i mean can't you just hunt us from horseback for sport like your ancestors did why do you gotta torture us like this you rich fucks branded as soul soul salons they import the

cosmic explorer sensibility of burning man okay into the cozy living rooms of prominent entrepreneurs where they sing freestyle on topics as diverse as environmental degradation and heartbreak think of it as a free jazz equivalent of an esalen retreat i would love to a lot of it i'm doing it right now the tech a list is a curious place to land for miss magic 37 who speaks in the soothing tones of a massage therapist and divides her time between cardiff california and bali indonesia despite her wood isis despite her wood nymph aura or maybe because of it miss magic has found herself in some button down circles in 2016 she performed at the women economic forum in new delhi and at a star studded birthday party of her friend ken howry a founder of paypal on necker island god

again we're talking about now you're so rich you almost name your island the n word we've talked on this episode about uh nantucket yeah jeffrey effsteen's private uh child sex abuse island and now necker island these rich people on their islands man it's getting out of control she goes he goes i don't know if you'd call this a breakthrough she said but i got peter teal to sing along and elon musk to smile the fucking that that guy i'm fucking teal musk the fucking paypal sounds like it's working where the hell gate opened like somebody opened the lament configuration in the offices of paypal in those early days yeah cursed senpai yeah we we need we need arnold to go back in time yes and destroy paypal like think about where our world would be

yeah go in there with a mini guy by the way uh update on elon musk he is uh just riffing on twitter about how he can use his magical inventive powers to save those children that are trapped in a cave in kailand and what he came up with was uh basically personal submarine child-sized submarines for the children and he was doing this all on twitter and like his assinine insane fans were like pretty cool elon could we fit an ipod in there for the long dark journey oh god and uh dav anthony replied he even had a little sketch of it and it's just like it's like a lil landly monorail sketch or like suckers or be money there's a little sketch of it with like a kid and like this little again child-sized submarine and dav anthony responded cool coffin well you

know what it is it's the all these people who think that this is gonna save the world with his tony stark like inventions they of course turned to him and said oh my god of course you're gonna do it and he's like yes i will do the thing hold on let's think of something and he's just drawing it out so that somebody else can do it first and then he can say so he's like they're finally getting the kids out he's like uh submarines oh man if it had been a little bit longer i swear to god i would have made the submarines man you are so fucking lucky i wasn't there i would have saved those kids even better he rocks i think i think jake floris pointed it out but like what is the likelihood do you think that elon was already developing some sort of personal

submarine for rich people and this is like the perfect i was inspired by a danish inventor oh my god personal freedom and uh and dating really inspired me so okay here we go miss magic who seems to approach every topic with a sense of giddy wonder imagine knowing a person like that i don't want to imagine it because someone in your life who who reads every day with childlike wonder me alone i don't want to do that no so he goes as if she just fell in love five minutes ago believes that her appeal is rooted in the spiritual hollowness so many business elites feel despite their wealth no sorry your spiritual hollowness comes from your wealth there is literally not any major religion in the world that doesn't teach some element to the fact

that being rich separates you from god yes or some sort of universal oneness or however you want to put it wealth makes you a worse person yes every major religion it holds that to be true so no wonder these fucking assholes who got who are worth six billion dollars because they invented invested in apps yeah are feeling spiritually empty it's amazing because you are yeah these guys go and they tour like the factory that their company is subletting in beijing and that where they're making the materials and that's what's giving them their astronomical fucking margins that have made these these billions and they're like touring the plants and they see the people and they see the suicide nets and they hear yeah for last month and then

they come home and they go god i feel really empty and hollow inside i feel like all of this is just nothing i don't understand time to fucking you know take molly and like you know or do whatever i mean i think maybe that's why these people are attracted to these like i don't know it's a solution new agey vaguely eastern spirituality because you know for all its laws at least christianity jesus christ literally said rich people i can't get into heaven and and they they just get they get like a customized a version of sort of a vague eastern spirituality that beyond everything is totally accommodating to their lifestyle so listen to what nothing it's all within nothing you do changes i listen to what i mean i think it's like purely cultural because people have

obviously found a way to square the circle of scriptures talking about wealth and uh being more men or being an american evangelical or a catholic or whatever i think it's more just like i mean it reminds me when uh matt said that the equivalent of becoming a born again after a particularly horrible accusation or drunken escapade in california as you become a born again buddhist yeah this is just it's just california bullshit that's all yes it is no but that's the difference they're cal they have a california bullshit that makes them have to have to uh they have to grapple with something that's ostensibly against their ethics yeah other rich people don't they don't care and that's not to say buddhism is california bullshit because it's not it's that in the same

way that like american christianity is like yeah fucking american bullshit this is this interpretation of being a tech douche bag who still has billions of dollars will pretend to be it got exposed to money and that's what curdles at all so like rusts the hulk of all of it listen to this uh miz magic who seems to approach miz she's like she's basically like an adult version of a children's birthday party performer that's what this shit is she's like a magician or someone who brings pets around to parties or makes you sing songs this is like children's birthday parties uh she says here the finance and tech scene is still riding the waves of hyper masculine values she said coffee to get through the day alcohol to wind down then sleeping pills at night to turn off the

mind from all that they have going on yeah you know that very macho thing where you drink coffee in the morning and then have a drink when you get home from work and then like need some sort of sleep aid to go to bed yeah you got yeah you know we're men's men so we do that but you know to our our lady listeners they probably they're probably not aware of such a thing of you know being lashed to a job that uh taxes your sanity and needing chemical stimulants to be able to cope uh to go either up down or asleep that's hyper masculine okay here here is the kicker here is the kicker here is magic says people forget that they are human beings rather than human doings oh my god which is literally a verbatim quote from the simpsons brad goodman this is brad goodman who

was a new age guru on a again an episode of the simpsons that is probably 30 years old at this point literally wrote that line for her when as soon as you stop because listen to this man human being you become a human listen to this it gets better enter the soul salon which miz magic calls a play date for your inner child basically another line taken verbatim from that episode be like the boy we like groin uh a play date for your inner child and performs as a gift she said although guests are invited to contribute in accordance with the value they feel received do except american express so she goes here uh the salons usually start with a theme say the emptiness of consumer culture as key phrases arise miz magic will begin strumming and humming weaving those lines of

dialogues into a lilting melody the effect is vaguely akin to joni mitchell performing performing freestyle rap at davos wow i know i know what awful sentence will be stuck in my head replacing f 35 beast mode from earlier this week i i know what fucking virus is implanted in my front i just got luke don't say it again don't ever say it don't say it three times over the effect the effect is vaguely akin to joni mitchell performing freestyle rap at davos don't say it again the effect is vaguely akin no joni mitchell performing freestyle rap at davos idiot you fucking moron i'm gonna call 901 do you want to reach for a cop service weapon at the same time as me fuck we're gonna turn into demons like fucking evil dead in the mouth of madness this is the

necronomic oh god dammit do you read suck so much magic do you read suttercade oh god you think this magic is aware of logic felix i don't want to think about i don't even want to talk about the rapper i know i don't want to think about it at all i don't want to i don't like it i don't like where this is going i know it's a lot of cursed places my mind is a blade stabbing with the metaphors of the corporation across the nation oh i made a really bad white guy rap uh this week you want to yeah let's do it let's do so let's do so our own mismagic session sorry i have to pull it up when i'm hysterical i'm electrical shone patrick like powder i'm powerful you've got bars i've got a knife will power fault oh i told you it was bad

i told you it sucked i told you you'd fucking hate it so much here's the end did you did you hear uh michael's soundcloud rap white guy soundcloud rap on the stream no i didn't hear it this shit hurts i know that it's true spoken on that hoopa stank and the reason is you you all right here's the end of mismagic as the music's world charles eisenstein a proponent of what he calls sacred economics talked about the unend talked about the unending human injury to mother earth if you knew she could feel would you stop he said when his monologue wound down mismagic rose and began to ignore norah jones style ballad picking up phrases from mr eisenstein's talk if we believe she's saying in a soulful jazz scat that me that me that me and the river

were the same would it change my ways oh my god holy shit oh my god this is i felt a fucking in cat crawl over my soul this is my that was marty this is fucking mind heads from bowfinger oh my god that was chilling i could it's fucking 70 degrees here and i see the breath in front of my face after hearing that at fuck this is darker than jim jordan or jeffrey i was like we little behind the scenes like we were like okay what are we gonna do after this segment and we had like two options i was like oh that'll be like a fun tone shift like it will be yeah you know we just went from the letter side yeah instead we just fell into a fucking dungeon of horrors yeah oh oh my god at first the audience sat silent seemingly puzzled

but slowly people began to clap their hands and sway to the beat a man with a floppy hat and wizard like robe began to gyrate wildly around the dance floor it's burning man in chelsea one observer said oh and that is that's it you know that's that's what people are into i'm never going to sleep again yeah yeah sleep no more another another goofy thing rich people are into oh they love that i love to get i love to get groped by a kind of mask it's shakespeare matt come on let's get out of here all right well that about does it for this week's show before we go i would like to do a plug the plug is of course for our book that's coming out boom and uh on august 21st yeah uh the publication date is coming up i uh we went long today so i'm gonna spare you a reading from the

book but i would like to say you know when we do the the the free episodes they get about you know between let's say 120 150 000 listens per episode if every one of you who listened bought the book then we would be guaranteed that our book would blow away every single other new york times best selling it's true it would bill away dan fife dog it would go it would blow away bill o'reilly bill o'reilly's books get the fuck out of clinton's book oh god jeffrey abstein's book jeffrey abstein's book it would blow away mark levin's books all of those books who are swept away i mean it would become such a phenomenon that everyone who we talk about on this show who you hate would have to either attempt to kiss our ass or talk about us like we are the thing destroying

america it's true david brooks will have to write a column about choppo trap absolutely if we hit the top of the new york times best seller list which again very easily could happen if everyone listening to this buys a copy and remember what we said on the show over and over again politics is just spite now that's what politics is and you are not any better than that folks politics is spite spite the hogs spite the the scum spite the donuts just own everyone i would say you know i mean granted it's it's i i i do feel a little sheepish uh telling you to buy things but the fact of matter is we are selling something and i'd like you to buy it so if twenty dollars is i would say a pretty good investment in a possible future in which uh someone cries on television as they

read from our hell yes as they weave however i will also say if that's all you got that would be worth it but for your money you will also be getting a damn funny and entertaining book quality tome i just want to say that i just finished reading the book this weekend and i was a fan before i was an employee and i know i'm probably the most biased person on earth to review this book other than because we will start paying chris if the book sells yes do it so i can eat uh but uh i mean it but um the book is exactly what you would want from a chapeau trap house that's right that's right we'll give you back your child as long as you say all right and finally oh yeah i have a plug um listener got in contact with me uh this week about stony book apartments in riviera beach

florida it is a black mold and just filled with just massive safety violations section eight housing development in florida it's owned by millenia millenia now every time i say millenia i feel like i'm saying millenia property group which was founded by uh the seneto family who are capo regimes in the cleveland mob now owned by uh frank seneto or thomas seno's son frank uh who's very in tight with marco rubio uh the listener got in contact with me because there are so many fucking safety violations just health code shit the type of things we heard about before grenfell going on here and and this woman uh got her car vandalized when she tried uh organizing attendance meeting uh just want to make more people aware of it we're putting the article in the description in this

episode uh marco rubio is very tight with the senetos he's very tight with people who are exploiting these low income people in this housing development and marco rubio also seems to like to get abused for some reason and you can somehow conjure him on tv if you abuse him enough so call marco rubio's office about this housing development and uh article will be in the description and look there was a lot of talk about grenfell there was a lot of talk about what what its implications were to the world at large how we treat our underclass and our cities after and it was very righteous but the less exciting thing for people to do is to catch these things before they happen and i feel like this is a case of that so we'll try to put every

bit of pertinent info in the description for this episode and also again third final plug uh housing rights and public housing are also is a huge part of our friend julia salazar's campaign for new york state senate uh so again if you haven't done so already i would encourage you to check out her campaign and uh donate if you can or if the mood strikes you yeah and also uh there will be a uh bonus episode this week uh you will get to hear our own virgin texas interview julia salazar uh from last week about her campaign and some of these housing issues that julia has worked on so uh that about does it for this week guys till next time bye yeah