Chapo Trap House - Episode 280 - MacKenzie's 60 Billion Dollar Challenge (1/14/19)
Episode Date: January 15, 2019It's Bernie, Bitch. We talk Amber's new piece arguing the need to get behind Bernie. We also fantasize about what we'd do if WE were getting divorced from Jeff Bezos and end with another dark trip to... Carcosa. Read Amber's Baffler article here: https://thebaffler.com/all-tomorrows-parties/its-bernie-bitch-frost Once more: shop.chapotraphouse.com
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experimental sound weapons are they real are they real the answer is yes they
are real it has this technology and it's gonna fucking it's gonna destroy the
brains of all the American spies I'm gonna come back Cuba they're doing scanner
a shit to CIA agents they're blowing up their brains through a hotel wall using
sound wave weapons no time it's about damn time and I think China is doing it
and their infant mortality rate still lower than ours well they're using sound
wave technology to destroy American brains safely and destroy babies dude
we're using sound wave weapons if you think about it that's true we are our
voices we are we are a tech war we're tech wars like shatner novels this mid
western mumble kills fascists yeah that nasal pitch it resonates in your brain
in such a way that it destroys your frontal lobe your ability to resist
communism well gang it's us it's your chapeau it is myself will menaker along
with amber and Matt for today's episode yeah so we're chilling here we're
talking I want to kick things off today the with a quote for you guys today we
live in a world in which brain power is the new currency of success hashtag
Julian 2020 we truly are living in the future that we've always dreamed of I
mean okay this is Julian Castro has Julian society Castro the bad Castro
has you know he's thrown his hat into the ring for the Dems in 2020 there's
gonna be so many oh boy yeah clown car words gonna be so many of them and he's
kicking off with the phrase for his campaign this is what he's like this is
my elevator pitch yeah you got to grab them right away what are we gonna do
what are people gonna respond to today we live in a world in which brain power
is the new currency of success knowledge is the penis of the mind you know
every time they do one of these things anytime they focus on intelligence or
like or education education did they ever think that like most people know
someone and love someone very much who is stupid like what about most of us have
dumb relatives that we love and we want them to be okay and they're saying to
you explicitly their shit out of luck your dumb relatives will be picking
garbage out of mitten heaps people with stupid people people with with lower
amounts of brain power they don't have any currency have no currency for the
new success brain power perishes they should that is that is that is the
flip side of it that's what they're saying yeah it's funny because it's yeah
part of it is if you don't have a brain you die but the weird the weird
language of it also makes it sound like if you do have a brain they're going to
have the brain bug from Starship out of you so you power some monstrous
machinery to keep a fucking Jeff Bezos alive for another 300 years yeah your
beloved dumb cousin who has third-degree burns on his leg from kicking a
gasoline can while smoking he's going to die your fate as the chosen is that
you are going to be mined physically it's like a resource they stick the thing
in your back of your skull and connect everyone wins everyone wins it's
wonderful I can't wait to have my brain harvest well I mean not not to do like
the obvious you know cliche thing here but like you know how many levels of
neoliberalism are you on hold watch this your brain power is literally part of
like a market yeah it's a currency in a market for success yeah that's what your
thoughts and like Nate your thought coins could be used to purchase their
bread set yeah you know out of this though I did notice that one of the
exciting I mean like this is just you know Pablo all right but I mean
parenthetically it's also based on empirically disproven theory about
employment Democrats have been running on the shit for 30 years Clinton in 92
had a similar pitch about how you know you the more what you earn depends on
what you know I think that was the line and we know for fact that's not true
after 2008 there was this big theory about how unemployment was going to be
higher structurally because of a lack of a lack of education to meet people with
employment employment opportunities and there was nothing you could do with any
other kind of stimulus or fiscal policy because there's just this education
gap that's gonna create a structurally structurally higher unemployment I guess
what happened they they fuck it did a ton of quantitative easing flooded the
system with with cheap money and the jobs were filled and unemployment went
down it's a it's not true it's a fundamentally false theory that they
stick to because it's the only alternative to pitch people other than
redistribution is to say no we'll give you education instead then you can
redistribute yourself with your brain juice well speaking of education other
than this you know not you know nonsense campaign slogan I did see the Julian
Castro signed on for a very exciting idea it's called two free years of college
whoa whoa so it's just I just love it like it's just amazing you go in with
you go in it too so maybe you get a semester it's it's meant for community
college or vocational school right yeah so what's the Louis bit where he said
community college is where dreams are narrowed down yeah that's what he's
starting with that's his that's his bargaining point he's he's starting very
long I think he's I think it says you could also apply it to before your
college but once again only the first two years and then you're fine and then
what if they just raise the price of the second two years because you're not
paying for the first two it's just amazing because as we say these guys
love to pat themselves on the back about how savvy they are how they
understand politics but they don't understand the concept of an opening bid
in negotiations no because they're always the one saying well we have to get
things passed if that's true then when you start at two free years then you
were accepting you're not gonna end there right because because you got to go
through them the sausage-making machine and yet they're always saying like how
about $10 an hour it's like motherfuckers it's an opening goddamn hand Matt you
had a you had a great line like okay here's here's the new Democratic policy
proposal Medicare for all for everyone over 65 that's mind-blowing yeah they're
gonna run on that yeah I mean again like early in the year government still
want to shut down not much going on I mean other than just a system shuddering
but how much have you noticed oh no of course not I mean I'm running on a
skeleton crew and fairness I haven't been trying to fly apparently that that's
kind of an app paying now well I hope that all the TSA does go on strike and
they keep the airports running and people realize that we don't actually like
need all this idiotic security theater at airports yeah it's like when the NYPD
got mad at de Blasio for not smooching their ass enough and they said fine we're
not gonna arrest people for petty crimes and then no one cared and it was fine
and then they just ended up doing it again cuz it's just what they love yeah
they could deny themselves I just smell a little bit like weed for a day and they
couldn't handle it I mean it sucks for the you know the people who are
literally going without a paycheck yeah but longest government shut down ever
but you know as the government shuts down you know people are looking to the
future like Julian Castro 2020 and you know the the carousel of Democratic
politicians you know continues to add new members still waiting for a ticket to
their ride is our sweet Bernard and I think I would like to talk to you Amber
about a piece you rode for the bath or this week that had had tongues a wagon
did it I wouldn't know it's called it's Bernie bitch and whoever did the art for
this is just on pure nightmare fuel I actually okay so first of all are you
responsible for this ever I am of course I am yeah because I wanted to go with
it's Bernie bitch and then I said well I mean people are going to accuse me of
being a misogynist which true fair anyway but I want to make sure that they
get that it's a Britney Spears reference so I gave them two options and one was
VMAs giant bow constrictor I'm a slave for you Bernie Spears and the other one
that they actually offered me was flight attendant Bernie Spears and I had
requested because like that phrase is really associated with the iconic
Britney moment and they gave me the flight attendant Bernie Spears and I
thought you know what now this is it this is the more terrifying one well and
also toxic is a better song once it is that's true once again you infuriated
everyone because they destroyed their dicks for beating off so hard yeah hot
image yep I know I did that's what you can't just make politics about sex
appeal you know it's about policy it's about people's real lives not just about
you know like it's not just yeah it's not just about wood or wooden and you
know you saw you saw all the bedo stuff everyone's just like oh he's gonna make
me squirt and you were like wait Bernie's using this arms race we cannot
allow a squirting gap you know I suppose you know for our for our podcast you
know I feel like you know you know it's just 2016 again folks oh yeah I'm not
like all of these other cowards who are like I hate it I want to die no no I'm
ready it is a showdown because we know what happened my body now we get to be
even stronger like we saw it happen harass more women there's silence more
minority voices it's gonna be more there's gonna be more of this well you
know but I think this time around there's gonna be like Clinton we know
what happens several minorities running all of whom we can denigrate because of
our white dude Bronis it's gonna be amazing but Amber like this is this is
your opening salvo I mean Bernie hasn't even said he's gonna run in 2020 I
assume you know I assume you think or at least suspect very comfortable you're
comfortable there's an article yesterday about a guy there's an article you
never say about me it's that I know a guy okay there's an article yesterday that
basically confirmed that he's hiring staff so yeah it's in the works okay so
it's Bernie bitch Amber this is your this is your opening salvo January
2019 let's go I'm just gonna write you know read from your article now you
read my words it was true then and it's true now Bernie Sanders is the best
candidate the only candidate who can be considered anything even close to
socialist and the one to beat Trump a president Sanders isn't some idealist
fantasy he is our best bet by a mile he is consistently polled as the most
popular politician in America since the primaries and while everyone else has
been tweeting or following up with 23 and me Bernie pressured Amazon into
raising wages followed up by going after Walmart condemned Saudi Arabia and
sponsored the resolution to end support for the war in Yemen introduced the no
money bail act committed to a federal job guarantee campaign so powerfully for
Medicare for all that he shifted the entire Democratic Party and saved a woman
from being hit by a car not only he is he's the best candidate politically as
in the only social Democrat he has the best chance of giving the pragmatists
what they say they want a presidential win so this is I'm surprised that's the
one you picked well I've got I've got more highlights all right good I prove
that I mean there is there's there's further tea about other Democratic
candidates there is to oh the tea I spilled the tea you gotta spill I mean I
was I was surprised next two years is gonna be just a fucking deluge deluge of
tea it's gonna be the fucking Boston molasses disaster of tea
Narciss you're wrong I'm just sipping the team your council to not say chief the
tea has been spilled but um yeah no but ember I mean like that's your that's
your you know brief for Bernie but like like overall like what were you trying
to like like what were you aiming for in this piece I mean like I find it hard
I think everyone needs to nut up and get on the same fucking page yeah like yeah
now is the time yeah a lot of people I think later in their lives figure out
too late that there was a moment when they should have made a certain decision
and when they should have gone hard for something and even if that thing was
going to fail it was the right thing to do it was the politically strategic and
morally correct thing to do and so I'm doing everyone a favor by telling them
that this is this moment so get your shit together I find it hard to believe
that you know you wrote something and I was like can she say that and the
pages of the baffler I broke 15 monocles you say Barack Obama was the very
last horoscope candidate a politician who managed to speak so vaguely that his
platform could mean anything to anyone it's not going to work this time around
the Democratic Party is not going to be able to trick people into believing that
Liz Warren is a social Democrat ditto Kamala cop Harris a woman whose
displicitus record as a prosecutor includes the defense of the death
penalty three strikes law and the imprisonment of single mothers for the
truancy of their children you really think you can convince anyone that Kamala
Harris is a woman of the people Sherrod Brown has gone all in with
Russiagate hysteria also he signs his tweets and before you even think of it
don't bother with Beto who is to the right of the aforementioned end votes to
the right of the median Democrat does a horse is a horse of course of course so
what about a what about Sherrod Brown though he seemed to be like the guy who's
like he's all right he's closest I will say though like basically anyone who
dedicates a lot of time to Russiagate conspiracy stuff I cannot take seriously
and he still has an endorsement here for all at this fucking point yeah still
talking about lowering the age to 55 or some fucking bullshit what the hell are
you doing yeah no he's not on board he's not on board with the economic
program and also I don't think he's a he's a serious contender like if I was
put in a position where I had to choose between a serious contender and someone
who maybe was a little bit to the right I would have to seriously think about
that but I don't think Sherrod Brown like meets either of the standards this
is this is an unprecedented situation for anybody on the left who takes a
presidential electoral politics seriously of course that's we have to
always say not that doesn't mean everyone but people who do this has never
really happened before where in a crowded field especially the left most
candidate and the most viable candidate both as somebody who could win a primary
and the general is the same person that's never happened never happens it's
it's like the model is like Cusinich and this is like if you look at what
Cusinich was talking about back when everyone was going and holding up the
screwball loony tune card next to his head every time he talked it's basically
the same thing that Bernie is saying except without you know the Department
of Peace which was kind of adorable frankly and the emphasis on aliens a
little buddy but you've got me if these positions have been mainstream now
thanks to you know us our fucking donkey cart rolling down a hill and
destroying the entire village but that was all of that is that it is this
incredibly unique situation and and deciding that you need to be aloof from
that and you need to pretend that there's some sort of variety of options
here when if there's any hope here it's to create meaningful litmus test for
candidates only one of whom meets them and then promote those ideas to the
largest possible audience by having somebody run for and become president
of the fucking United States he's the only option because every other person
has amber points out has some they don't have the track record they don't
have the voting record they sure as hell don't have the record in terms of where
they've got their money from they're not the most popular politician in America
they don't even have the same they don't even have the pragmatic case for them
yeah it's it's absurd now when you say something like you know Bernie's most
you know he consistently he's pulled as the most popular president that can
bounce around and obviously like polls can be jumpy but there's enough of those
coming out that it's like look people clearly fucking love burning is he the
most popular among Democratic primary voters because that that would seem to
be a bigger hurdle and when you say like he's the most popular politician I don't
think there's any way to say it's any way to say something like that right now
especially now that the race has started they did see polls out of New
Hampshire and again these are all like incredibly incredibly early that has
Sanders with a couple points leading over Biden and it's basically Sanders and
Biden and then everyone else is like in the single digits Biden is going to
fucking dissolve like a fucking sandcastle and a piss storm but like what I
find interesting is that the people who Biden is very interesting because like
all the all the hitches to Bernie all the things that could potentially trip
him up being you know an old white man being potentially I don't know
insensitive to you know women or minority groups Biden has all of that
times a million yes at times a zillion and there are people that like Biden
that don't like Bernie so wow it's like the problem is actually socialism and
not representation it's almost like there's a large contingency of people
associated with the Democratic Party as an institution who are more invested in
fighting basic social democratic reforms than anything else clearly anything
else clearly beating the Republicans clearly any kind of minority or or
religious or racial or gender representation what they want to make
sure is that they have a technocrat that does not rock the boat and you know
you mentioned in the article to the people who are not necessarily people
arguing in bad faith or actually literally on the payroll the Democratic
Party or the nation of Qatar or Saudi Arabia or something like that as you
read the the gentle souls you know who may be I don't know without without your
stern resolve how would you how would you firm put some steel in their spine to
get back on board I mean I think the thing is is to teach people the
difference between you know a good faith argument in a bad faith argument and
also like help people know when something is bullshit because people need to be a
little more skeptical of the self-identified progressive I I wish I
could like have like a like a video series where it's like don't waste your
time with that Looney and make sure you tell them that you know they're full of
shit but this person you can have a conversation with them because like you
you are going to have to do that you can't just be a smug asshole to
everyone be a smug asshole to other smug assholes that's it's that's a good rule
of thumb you say that even if we have to put cocaine in his coleslaw or if
he dies mid-run we'll shove stuff in full of sawdust shove a hand up his ass and
operate him like a goddamn muffin yeah because there's no one else there's no
one else right you know well that's the other thing like you know whether it's
in done good faith or not you hear a lot like like you know Bernie like he's old
he had a shot he like he cracked the door open but like you know why aren't we
you know working on like like the next like you know so destroyed it
the entire the entire generation X of Democratic politicians were mind poisoned
and tainted there they came from bad earth shitty soil bad seeds they are
they're they're they're cursed they're poisonous Beto because they put they came
up in the world of the neoliberal Tina universe where the they was no
alternative and where their tax credits and education shit is all that could be
done that was the horizon of the possible and they came at the end of
history at the end of history they're in the cave and if you try to show them
outside of the cave they'll try to kill you for being a wizard yeah it's like
there is an ungeneration but they're literally too young to run for president
that's why Beto looks like that he's like one of those deep sea fish with the
teeth you see if you see a Beto make sure he has three leaves instead of four
for rubbing him all over your calves to stop them from cramp stopping from
cramping um yeah I mean like the obvious other and the obvious other answer
would be AOC but she's actually isn't she literally she's 29 years old literally
she's one term congressman and yeah and like she literally just got there
she's all alone and also we need her in Congress and we need a million more of
them everywhere million more AOCs in Congress and in the House and everything
and people say well you should be focusing on that instead of the
presidency but what country do you think you live in that's how Americans
process politics that's how you get a generation of people who see those
policies and say I'm going to run on that and people who say I want that and
you build up the alternative funding structures and the alternative
organization structures that can challenge the Democratic Party as it
exists I just think it's obvious yeah and we just need to keep pointing out
that it's obvious he's old and that's having these conversations not ideal but
you know hey you look pretty spry to me yeah he's definitely more spry than
Donald Trump yeah he's actually president true his brain is melting in
front of us yeah Hillary Clinton has 300 diseases yeah she's she's the last
person to have st. Vitus dance they tried to make her into a super soldier but
she just got sick from every single genetic mutation she just has a light
flu that's her superpower well I guess like the news came out the other week
about like there's like some sexual harassment on the burning campaign and
they're gonna really use that like they're gonna they're gonna nail that as
far as it goes but like at the same time like there was already things in the
Hillary campaign that it came out and it's like wow what a surprise that like
your first year your opening shot of the year is a compendium of like medium
posts from six to eight months ago and also these various women who were at
different different levels within the campaign of a huge campaign meanwhile
there was obviously also complaints from the Hillary campaign as well because
guess what it's a sexist world there's literally no place where there aren't
sexist men unless you just don't work with men in which case there's that
thinks lady who sells the period like I'm sorry like what the fuck does that
have to do with burning there's a response by the one people like well
what about on the camera what the fuck there is a huge difference between the
hill the hill at the camp Hillary campaign harassment accusations and the
burning ones and it's that in the Hillary ones Hillary personally intervened to
protect the guy who'd been accused wasn't it wasn't he like this cookie like
faith advisor Berns Strider Berns Strider yes low tier Red Dead Redemption 2
Karen Berns Strider who was a handsy creep and she knew but she trusted him
and so she's just moved him around like a fucking Catholic priest yes that's the
difference there's no proof that Bernie knew anything about any of this stuff
that these horny freaks in his campaign might have done also speaking of handsy
Joe Biden I mean there's like photos of that like he loves giving back my god
when he announces the hope the Biden thing it's gonna be like Joe Mentum all
over again it is Joe my god his name is Joe Biden it's like when Lieberman
because people don't remember this because you're all 12 but when Joe Lieberman
ran for president as grandpa's getting mad about 2004 he had been the VP in the
last time right and he was leading up to the the primaries the by far poll
leading candidate because he had the highest name recognition oh yeah that's
the guy who ran against Gore Lieberman I saw him on the bumper stickers and then
he opened his mouth and the fucking teacher from peanuts came out of it and
people like oh yeah this guy sucks and he just immediately collapsed
meanwhile Biden is gonna people are just like oh yeah Obama's friend with the
memes famous orators Joe Biden he's gonna come out and be like yeah
Millennials should work in salt mines until they die also I have groped every
woman I've ever met and there's video footage of it I started my career
fighting against bussing I don't remember when I said that Obama was clean
and articulate anybody remember that and people are gonna go like oh right he's
not just a onion guy he's a real person and he's terrible but there are 100%
Democrats that will push for Biden over Bernie as more realistic oh no of course
and that will be that's what's good that's why I as we're talking about and
not dreading this this next year's I'm looking forward to it because of the
clarifying power of this and having all these different people contradictions
exactly all these different candidates to provide all these different ways to
reveal the fundamental hypocrisy and the bad faith going into so much of these
criticisms and how many motherfuckers are gonna talk about Biden talk up Biden
and against Bernie and it's like right there you've neutralized that person and
anyone who makes those arguments you get no oh you're full of shit and that's
gonna go through all of this like people who made X Y and Z claim about what's
important to them and then when it comes down to it are willing to back
anybody who isn't Bernie on regardless of how much they violate whatever they
claim to have been their objection to him in the first place because what they
really object to is fucking policies speaking like you know more broadly of
like I guess policies are like the moment we're living in now even though it's
hell right we're definitely living in hell at least we've drinks though we've
drinks but like the fact that Donald Trump is president I think has sort of
like wedged open just a crack just a little bit in like you know what is
considered like absolutely it has revealed that the hegemonic politics it
has revealed the crisis of legitimacy in party politics and end of better or
worse broadly speaking like you know the liberal capitalist order right and I
think people are noticing that certainly on the left but they're also
noticing it on the right and I want to talk about I just I just read that this
morning it was a piece in New York magazine by Eric Levitz who is responding
to yet another David Brooks piece that it is essentially responding to Tucker
Carlson who's made a big splash on the right because he's like now become like
the Trump intellectual figure on the right you know try not to extra we're
exercising our scoffing muscles today yeah so you can exercise your scoff at
that but like he had a big thing a while ago where he has opened up because he is
now like the most popular pundit of like the Trump voting yeah maga chud right
I think because he's he's done this he's like oh actually people are
miserable and you know he wrote this book called ship of fools which I haven't
read but I've read enough about it that essentially what he's doing is opening
up on there on the right this idea that like hey like maybe capitalism like
isn't all it's cracked up to be or maybe it has produced negative outcomes in so
far gotta be careful with that shit too because once the right well it starts
talking like like exactly you got to be very careful and like what he's actually
saying is that like well yeah like maybe the government can do something to
alleviate things you know capitalism is caused but what he's really saying is
like capitalism is a problem in so far as it has made these traditional racial
and you know hierarchies that we really like and would like to introduce a
family family structure and you know like a single parent like man works
woman stays at home yeah all those things have declined dramatically since
like the 1970s but what he's saying is like capitalism is a problem only in so
far as it doesn't deliver the goods that we really want and care about which are
these things like you know patriarchal family structure racial hierarchy and
you know like the sort of white America the it's the it's the because people
pointed this out but the Trump thing when it was when it when he started people
identified that it was an attempt to a very nascent attempt by a fraudulent
senile idiot to articulate a European-style conservatism but it didn't
really have any ideological meat to it it was just his brain synapses firing
what he what he want thought his you want to talk to you what what we knew the
hogs responded to and now Trump or now Carl Carlson is trying to actually give
it intellectual like bones and sinew around it and an actual ideology as
opposed to just like you know the cap like you know capitalism is a problem
because like you know all this all this all these great markets and like you
know corporate dynamism and entrepreneurship I guess they're like
they're finally starting to realize at the end of the day they don't give a
fuck about like how white this country is or not like they like if anything
corporations have like gotten more like woke you know like more outwardly like
liberal and tolerant in their messaging advertising yeah absolutely and
obviously Carlson and the people he represents despises that because if
they turn on TV and see like an interracial couple eating Cheerios
together they want to fucking vomit and it's literally I'm sorry it's literally
capitalism that's doing that to them you know because they're fitting capitalism
is very deft you know exactly it can fit in whatever cultural space I think what
we're seeing interestingly is both in conservative and liberal like elite
people who are highly invested in you know suturing this this crack in the
Fisher are trying to say like they're there they finally said like what they
said and this is what Eric Levitt's writes in this piece on New York Magazine
I'll link to it I thought it was interesting he's like they used to be
like you know going into like the conservative resurgence in the 80s like
they could say no it's like it's social liberalism that's the problem that's
what's causing the breakup you know money capitalism the all the economy that's
all fine now in an attempt to save it because we've realized as you were
saying earlier well it's like the jobs are back you know it doesn't really
depend on you know like on you know moral or one way or the other right it'll
still work yeah without a traditional conservative moral framework to
undergird it they don't need any of that shit is what they're realizing is that
like okay that now now actually we're gonna have to save the whole thing we're
gonna have to start scolding our capitalist masters and this is what
David Brooks attempts to do is he says that we need a moral family structure
because we basically well they're gonna get back down into a relevance pretty
is better people in charge of it and you know what liberals kind of believe
that too but just from a different slightly like slightly different angle
or perspective but it's a meritocratic technocratic exactly that like you know
that that all of the you know wealth produced by capitalism is great and
it's all the most dynamic system and the only way we can you know ever manage an
economy or a society of this scale but essentially you know it all the people
it's you know destroyed and all their traditions and ways of life and just you
know quality of life continues to go down and wages being stagnant actually we
just need more moral people in charge of it yeah you know so like we need a moral
return to moral values both at the top and bottom and conservatives now with
David Brooks are even willing to say that of the captains and princes of
industry which they never used to touch but again like the idea that this this
door has been wedged open the door it goes both ways in terms of what's gonna
come through that opening yeah well it's a cliche to say like oh well the
Democratic Party is the left wing of capital or whatever but it is and the
success of I don't even want to say Trump as an institution because that
makes it sound like you had for a more coherent political program than he ever
did but the success of like Trumpism or whatever as like a social movement just
it completely undermined both the Republican and Democratic Party that's
amazing it's like he's to quote our hero Naseem Taleb it was the black swan
because a guy with his degree of independent resources and fame had an
independent base of operation to talk to people talk to the people with which
you mean that he was not he was not he did not have to sign up to any of the
orthodoxies of the Republican Party disrupted and then that man he was
able to say things were no Republican who came up through the regular system
could say and so that made people start thinking hey you know what you're right
this hasn't really worked for us these these trade system hasn't worked
capitalism hasn't worked now of course he's governed the way he just as a bog
standard Republican because that's the people who are in power and he doesn't
have any of the actual he doesn't have real ideology or the desire to really
carry thing out except for this childish obsession with the wall that he has
because he's a baby and it's about his ego but and so all he's really done is
tax cuts which they would have done anyway but it has opened this Pandora's
box of possibility and yeah this is the thing the Democrats the liberals are
are if this is the new array where there's a populist Republican Party
they will absolutely become the party of woke capitalism and in fact browbeat
anyone on the left who criticizes capitalism by saying you sound like
Republicans you sound like Trump you sound like Tucker Carlson I've literally
by the way already like seen that I remember Jackman writer Megan Day wrote
something about the decline of cities this is really good Robert Fitch book I
think the assassination of New York City it's about how I mean you'd apply it to
most cities actually even across the world about how like the fire economy
have replaced you know manufacturing and to have like a strong working-class base
in a city you need manufacturing and you need good working-class jobs it can't
just be fucking real estate and finance and and people were like oh wait so you
want to bring back the factories wow wonder who you sound like it's like no
people liked those jobs you fucking asshole they were good jobs I don't
know how that's gonna work but I do know that if you see that if you see that
territory and to make all crap you respond to it yeah there has to be a
left-wing version of criticizing capitalism that's coherent or else
yeah it's gonna be a choice for most people between between woke woke
capitalism and and a a chimerical and fraudulent right populism that claims
it's gonna fix all this problems with capitalism and bring back all of the
your beloved hierarchies and that's gonna that's going to create a totally
racialized politics even more than we have now to back to our original point
about it's only Bernie yeah I mean the answer here is like I know again we know
for sure that the Center for American Progress and the American Enterprise
Institute collaborated to create some phony academic study about how
populism equals authoritarianism yeah well they're terrified because they're
terrified they're terrified of people they I mean ultimately too I realized
when it like as this kind of you know presidential ramp up is happening I'm
realizing the bigger political differences I have with people have to do
with whether or not you are contemptuous for people in general or not it's like
whether you think that they are capable of self-government and sort of basic
democracy and whether you think they're deserving of very basic social
democratic securities or not that's kind of it like from there you can have the
argument but there are so many liberals who are not even willing to have that
argument because fundamentally they're more invested than their kind of
fantasy of what these institutions should how they should behave and how they
should operate then they are in any kind of fantasy and kind of a
harmonious democratic basic humane governmental system I mean I just think
like the bottom line is again even for people who are pragmatists who just you
know the people who like I just want the nightmare to be over I just want a
Democrat in the White House like here's the thing like you better get
comfortable with populism because guess what it's the only game in town now and
if you're not fucking gonna get on board with it guess who is yeah fucking
Tucker Carlson yeah and like you know these like almost pseudo fascist I mean
not even almost it's got a touch touch of the fact well I mean the next time
there's a cuz just imagine the next time there's a there's a serious financial
crash and the person in office is you know the brain powers the fuel of the
person oh my god and all they have to answer with is another bailout and more
fucking vouchers for community college classes in H-fac repair and sandwiches for
everyone and and like we've created a we've created a nanobot that we can
unleash into the water system and when you drink it you know how to code like
something like that if that's the alternative to some rampaging hooting
fascism that says we need to bring these malefactors of great wealth as FDR use
they call them into into heel and along with that
smuggle in a ton of horrifying revanchist racial and and gender
concepts you're gonna find that those that those things that are so appealing
on television and make you feel so good to to represent these values are really
thin on the ground because they don't help people not starve I mean again back
to Julian Castro you're running for president you want to like you want to
grab people how about um everyone deserves to have health care I mean like
yeah like it's very inspiring and practical stop talking about the AI or
whatever the sorry common you know like he's gonna be our first he is he
apparently he is saying Medicare that is interesting because it is now be but
the problem is this is where the rubber really hits the road for the long time
the question was making that first something that wasn't met with instinctive
revulsion like when Hillary Clinton spit blood and foam and adrenochrome out of
her mouth when she even heard the phrase and said it's never ever happening and
in two years that has been metabolized into the Democratic Party so you now you
have a lot of these people who are in any other other way sort of Obama era
Republic Democrats saying Medicare for all so this is where what that means now
becomes the real terrain of argument what is Medicare for all is it a slogan or
does it mean a genuine decommodification of health care and that is where the
specific plans actually come in to meaning something because if a guy like
brain juice Castro can say Medicare for all you have to wonder what he means by
that and it has to be spelled out yeah Bernie has an actual bill and has
supported other bills previously that have like actual concrete policy
prescriptions to them what we're going to see and what we have already seen is a
lot of talk talk about affordability yeah and accessibility accessibility suck my
dick watch for those words because they are bullshit they are a trick you know
exactly what you're getting with Bernie you're right that is a good shorthand to
like yeah look for those buzzwords or this qualifiers access is my favorite
one yeah access the fuck everyone has to have a must that we want everyone to
have access to health insurance everybody in America has access to LeBernadine or
that one place the Cirque the place in Chicago where they give you like a fucking
whipped cream enema I don't know I'm not aware of Elinio whatever you but you
have to pay for it yeah you can walk in the door but you have to be a little
fucking people yeah but they can say do you have the money exactly it's like
also you need to be wearing shoes I would I'd just like to take a whiff
could I just smell the kitchen for a minute there's another bit of economic
populism to talk about this is a I guess sort of like politics adjacent but the
other the other news and sort of gossip I remember one was talking about last
week was the Jeff Bezos divorce I saw a lot of people fascinated with this that
dude wrist at all yeah Matt you actually know like what are the specifics of
this who's who do you get horny for you got it all for me stop shaming as Felix
like we stop he's Felix isn't here so I need to pipe up on his behalf you know
pipe up for those who pipe down yeah I saw a lot of people out there shaming
Jeff Bezos for being a sexual being because he because he took all that he
said hey a live girl and he said I'm going to see you and you're going to see
me and my eyes and my body okay okay here's an interesting question this
goes back to Matt Matt you and I our friend government former governor
Mark Sanford yeah you know he his political career was ruined by him
having you know being feeling effusively romantic and you know hiking the
Appalachian trail and being sort of gooey and romantic loving too much
obviously you know you know anyone's private you know text messages to a
lover of any kind being leaked is like you know a nightmare but is it more
embarrassing to be like Jeff Bezos and like be like I want our eyes to meet
and do the crossword puzzle holding you in my arms or is it more embarrassing to
just be like sup dick on hard is it to JR Smith but the classic and still the
gold standard you trying to get the pipe what is more embarrassing is it to be
like slightly corny but romantic and effusively loving or just like just
just purely horny there's no good way to be horny I think that's probably true
in the cold light of day I mean in context any kind of horny is acceptable
depending on the person who's receiving it and the circumstance but what she's
throwing the floodlight on me we're talking about spectators yeah no as soon
as someone's looking as soon as soon as the fluorescence are flashing on it
it's not it's called it's true it exists between like embarrassing or nice but
once you observe it it becomes humiliated yeah and I also feel like yeah one
of the good things about living in New York is that like we know that and my
most one of my first vivid memories about like living in New York was getting
out of like the like I like I was coming up and there was a people there were two
people in passion embrace at the top of the stairs and I drunkenly screamed
this isn't fucking Paris and like three different people went that's right
because that's how hide your love it's disgusting it's disgusting no one wants
to see it and they especially don't want to see it when you're your net worth is
like larger than a small country's GDP largely the most mid-sized country yeah
sure yeah like well I mean that that is I think why people are fascinated by by
this conscious uncoupling don't you have the dignity to hide your horny shame and
also like well no you understand the internet like everything you don't do
anything on the internet everyone's gonna see it that's the thing it's like
Bezos you know you you could read any of our emails to right now you know
someone's eventually gonna see this but maybe that's the hubris well because
no one thinks it's good you know it's gonna happen to them but people are
fascinated this by this because it's like it's like the it's the same reason
people are fascinated by the New York Times wedding columns yeah the wedding
announcement stuff is that they they love fantasizing about you know as David
Brooks once said the co-mingling of accounts and SAT scores you know I love
also fantasizing about divorcing Jeff Bezos exactly this is getting more
powerful than that because you know in Washington State community property
state 50 and she's overnight gonna become the richest woman in the world
boom so what like 60 billion dollars something like that yeah I was just
thinking like before we get into the you know ethical question of you know does
she deserve it the most lucrative way that's great but just what what you do
with 60 billion dollars I would my heart would explode like yeah like week two yeah
I would not last it's just it's actually like I don't know how you could
remain sane yeah there's no way get me the coke the kill pollution have no you
would have to give it all away immediately yeah Brewster's million style
yeah like do a contest different people come to you with different ideas like
shark tank yeah exactly but for good as opposed to like a machine that jerks you
off while you're watching sports or whatever the hell I've never watched I'm
buying I'm buying in on that Mark Cuban Dallas Mavericks see I thought I'd 60
billion dollars like I mean it's just like yeah you could be your own government
basically and what I would do I mean they are is I would create I would create
and I'm sure rich people already have versions of this but I would create like
on some like oil Derek and like or some like the oil platform and
international waters sort of like Metal Gear Metal Gear Solid yeah I would
create my own private anti CIA I sort of like like a good like a good
intelligence and mercenary for so you would make you would make the Q and on
thing real like you create a white hat intelligence department to fight the
black hats yeah kind of that's what I would use it to like basically just do
like ops and Compromat and not like you know assassinate anyone spy comics real
not like you know not like assassinations or anything like that but
like just it just embarrass and people I don't like that would be cool and they
have an addictiveness would be very necessary Southern's magic Christian just
to do like insanely elaborate pranks on people I hate I mean you'd probably get
a lot of value if you just did what WikiLeaks did before Julian Assange went
nuts in the cupboard and create a independent NSA and just hack the fuck
out of yeah yeah that's what I mean like all that just steal everyone's
private shit dump it all out there and see how long it would take before they
just like shot a missile at the golden sack out there you know Bank of America
HSBC fucking yeah the Pentagon I would create like also create like fake
conservative think tanks and just try to lure all the people we've done reading
series and into some sort of like plush you know like corporate offer them like
here's 30 grand to come talk about you know excellence in business and and you
know America why America's founding fathers you know value values of
thrift and diligence or whatever but then do like an act like a magic Christian
thing where like the other everyone else in attendance is like the dregs of
Arkham Asylum or something like that on a cruise ship so they can't leave I was
thinking on a cruise ship and you just park it next to Somalia and wait no I
would do like trying to do like like Bain type shit you know I would try to
create my own nuclear weapon because that would be honestly that that's your
hedge against the drone strikes that's true they would kill you they would for
sure kill you yeah so I would try to buy fuck buying with $60 billion I'm
creating my own nuclear program yeah I'm doing it I'm doing it in secret I'm
doing it like miles underground like Iran does yeah I'm creating a nuke I'm
putting on a dead man switch to my heartbeat like Mark Sheen it's fun and
from there we can start having some real fun oh my god yeah yeah let's do it you
just gotta all right so you have to seduce Mackenzie Bezos and then divorce
her 30 billion dollars to do it in that state to Washington yeah I think New
York is also anywhere that's community property yeah anywhere that's community
properties there's no no prenup okay I would also with no you get 30 and then
you go to Vegas and put it on black and then you're back to 60 I've got a system
yeah um I would also do like indecent proposal stuff so people I hate I'll be
like here's a billion dollars let's make it happen and just make them betray their
families and sell their soul to me for laughs you know I'm not gonna say that
I would actually have sex with their wives I would just like wills the nicest
one of us when when you get money it opens the abyss and into it goes
everything I forgot about the abyss yeah into it it just creates you know it's
just like a possibility is also you know the black hole you know on a drug that
only billionaires get yes oh that's the other thing I would immediately get
access to the sex and drugs and only rich people are allowed and are allowed
to have yeah you get the fuck the gray alien they have an area that that's
fucking dog star pussy holy shit off the chain um or like Ozzy Mandias maybe
stage a fake alien attack and use it to do world peace I would inspired by your
idea of creating the white hat intelligence part I would get to the
bottom of pizza gate I would not like not the fake one but like I would I would
like put a team like real hitters and I would follow them until they reveal
their secrets and like I would tap their phones and I would hack all of their
private communications I would get because you know who they are you know
who gets the full investigative treatment 24-hour surveillance total total
penetration of their communications and yeah until it's all revealed and then
you just fucking you put it out there of course probably wouldn't matter that's
what we've real realized at this point but that's when the private drone army
comes in okay well what about Mackenzie though what's she gonna do I probably
like create some like nonprofit to privatize public education you know
like what all the whole school is mom she's gonna she is yeah she did they
homeschool yes I think she's gonna get a group back with 60 can you imagine how
much groove you could get back oh my god start dating the guy from maroon five
seriously anyone it's like she could just like watch a movie and then order
somebody like it like a like a fucking takeout pizza it's like she's like ooh
fosbender my room tomorrow you know five o'clock you can't you can't oh that's
another good idea I would pay Michael Fosbender and James McAvoy to come
perform X-Men first-class for me or or or just watch it with me I would pay I
would I would get celebrities to do hot couch bullshit with me movies like a
live DVD commentary and just like you know smoke weed and like look at my
my iguana terrarium that's the size of Rhode Island or something yeah higher
Tom Hardy to just do all of his voices no you got the Bain voice you've got
Venom voice you've got the Eddie Brock voice I would just have him do all of
his wacky voices I'd hire Tom Hardy around and be Venom to me I'd hire Tom
Hardy to just like carry me places yeah I do that yeah exactly that'd be nice
like more like master blaster okay well like I'm doing good here Tom just keep
going yeah we're going to my lawyer's office next beautiful bimbo and we
love him yeah yeah I love it let's make this happen
all right let's get that paper who's gonna who's gonna do it though you know
patrons out there you we got a ways to go yeah it's a ways to go before we get
to 60 billion dollars but again here's the funny part I mean obviously I saw
that Jill flip Avik in the Guardian you know her take was like I hope she gets
half of the money and not only that she deserves it because we have the same
highlights and you know what I'd say that is like obviously like in the
context of you know a divorce or whatever like yeah like you know legally
she deserves it that's not a divorce okay people who are like that like they
don't have marriages they don't have divorces they don't have children
everything is an asset or a project like no it's it's an immoral like the risk
of getting to fire and brimstone it's such an immoral amount of money that
anyone could have exactly it shocks me that anyone's like well what does
feminism have to say about this and it's like feminism says redistribute their
money well yeah anybody can have a billion dollars and deserve it here
yeah here's the more well she homeschooled the kids yeah like here
here's the more pointed and meaningful question is does Jeff Bezos even deserve
half and the answer is of course he fucking does it no I mean it's just
absurd if that's one of those things that just shows you these issues like a
lightning strike to just eliminate everything if you think that anyone
could deserve billions of dollars there's anything they could have done in
their life to deserve that much money friendly but what's just right no one
earned a million dollars stolen no one I I just I hate to I we just read like a
little bit she met Jeff because they worked in neighboring offices at a
Manhattan hedge fund the kind of job usually staffed by ambitious people who
are who either are or go on to be very wealthy they were married within six
months when she was just 23 good age for a first marriage I gotta say and move to
Seattle soon after Mackenzie in other words made significant sacrifices to
make Amazon work mm-hmm okay no one named Mackenzie has ever made a sacrifice
in their life ambers make sacrifices crystals make sacrifices Mackenzie's
did not make we're gonna get a billion comments looking up like some
incredibly hard luck story of someone named Mackenzie I don't care how could
you I don't care this girl had to like you know choose whether she wanted to
lose an arm or a leg to save her younger sister no it's completely fucked up
it's like it's she didn't have to do that she could have hired an entire South
American country it's worth of nannies and she didn't like this is this was not
a sacrifice she didn't make a sacrifice she made a choice when you have that
much money it's not a sacrifice it's a choice yeah that's a good point when you
have when you're that wealthy like yeah there's nothing as like a personal
sacrifice sacrifice you might also consider the possibility that maybe
she's just one of those weird freaks that wants to homeschool her kids about AI or
whatever like it was clearly not a sacrifice she wasn't like bought on the
fucking slave market either yeah there you go like Melania has made a
sacrifice billions of dollars and she divorced him and I'd have that's like
the only person I could maybe you see an argument maybe yeah the surfing it
because oh Melania yeah yeah well she has made sacrifices she has made
significant sacrifices to and she like got her parents to come here from
fucking war toward Yugoslavia or whatever the fuck yeah I'll talk about
poor Melania before Mackenzie Bezos here there's this I'm trying to find it
there's this insane quote about that Jeff Bezos made about how he decided to
marry her this is what he said about this was in 2013 they're talking about his
wife he says quote I think my wife is resourceful smart brainy and hot but I
had the good fortune of having seen her resume before I met her so I knew
exactly what her SATs were also Satan yeah David it was right just from the
center of the earth landed here on a fucking comet a hundred thousand years
ago controlled civilization ever since the dawn of time yeah nobody deserves
no billion dollars you're operating off the assumption that that kind of money
can be earned that that that it's not theft of people surplus labor just as
the basic thing I mean forgetting about actually a which we know because even if
they weren't treating them better than they do and we know they treat them as
basically channel even if there was you know even if there was a fucking break
more bathroom breaks and a 401k they're still fucking exploiting people's
extra surplus labor and and they're doing it in a hyper aggressive fashion that
allows them to have this absurd amount of money in the first place and if you
were if your assumption is that that can be worthwhile especially since what's
the big innovation here you just get stuff delivered to your house yeah it's
like hey you know if you say if you give the if you send things through the mail
the post office they have to use it they have to send it like that's the
innovation that's the genius insight that's the thing that that broke the
world open and made him earn all of this what these guys are really like good at
right like the extent to which they can be like described this I don't know
visionaries or geniuses or whatever is that they're geniuses in marketing yeah
yes and like like that's that's that is actually what they've discovered or
created it's not anything you know useful to humanity or like you know good and
they were hasn't not even innovation people already knew that we could order
stuff off of the internet it's just that he consolidated and got a monopoly and
I guess like Steve Jobs figured out that people wanted their computer is to look
kind of like like the future and like the future don't have a jet pack so you
gotta have people thought Star Trek was cool yeah that's what we all want to you
know a tricorder in our pocket yes and well that does really show that I mean
innovation has sort of ground to a halt many meaningful sense and all we really
have is this is an is is an entire economy based on figuring out packaging
ways to get people to buy new shit I mean like there's two curing new disease
exactly one of them is marketing and if we are that's fucking public research
that's doing it and most of the people who end up really curing diseases what
do they do they give the fucking thing away yeah what was the what was the
country that just figured out how to cure AIDS and infants Cuba that would oh
right yeah yeah oh there's doctors in that country but yeah it's a two-prong
thing one is convincing people that the old garbage is good and you should buy
it and the other is making sure that you don't build things too nicely so that
they break after a year by the way less incredibly efficient ask resource
allocation when instead of having durable goods that could last longer and
require fewer resources to make we make new one every year that breaks
immediately that's fucking efficient but Matt those little African children
mining the precious metals need those jobs they do it's true and they can't
code yet we're working on that though yeah we're going to we're going to send
drones to drop off we're gonna drop off the coding devices and I by the end of
this century vision 2100 those sweet young African brains will be hooked up
to the knowledge cortex and their precious knowledge juice will be sucked
up to power the the extendo life machine there are so many brains out
there that just are they're shut out of the knowledge marketplace right and we
need right for the picking we need to free them we can wring them out yeah
get all the good stuff in there the precious mine grapes so how about to
close things out this week y'all want to get real dark okay y'all want to go to
Carcosa hell yeah I was saying give me give me billions of dollars and I will
create the white hat yeah pedophile hunters bring all this to the light
okay and Matt of course I know you're familiar with this Amber you said you
weren't oh yeah the story in here Amber this is one Ed Buck are you familiar
with this don't make the obvious joke yeah we're gonna leave that aside okay
LA writer has been sounding alarm on Ed Buck for over a year long before a
second man died in the political donors home writer Jasmine Kanek has been
publishing accounts from his alleged victims when authorities in Los Angeles
found Timothy Dean dead in the apartment of Ed Buck a Democratic activist and
campaign donor early Monday morning Jasmine Kanek was not surprised just six
months ago Kanek had posted a warning on Twitter that something like this might
happen quote if another young black gay man overdoses or worse dies at
Democratic donor Ed bucks apartment it's going to be the fault of the
sheriff's department and LA district attorney for not stomping him when they
had the opportunity to Kanek wrote on Twitter in late July when you know that
that's exactly what happened as this is setting up in basically in the spirit
of about two like about a half a year two very young gay black men who were
like basically homeless have died of OD from a drug overdose in this guy's
apartment and the second one just happened yeah in July 2017 Gemel Moore a
26-year-old black man died from a methamphetamine overdose in bucks
apartment shortly afterward Kanek followed a tip from a colleague and
reached out to Moore's friends and family who had discovered a journal among
the possessions returned with Moore's body they were disturbed by what they
said they found Moore's journal said that Buck got him hooked on meth and had
drugged him against his will since Moore's death Kanek has collected a trove
of information or an attempt to make the case that Ed buck is a predator who
prays on it down on their luck black men by inviting them into his apartment and
suggesting they try methamphetamine injections or slamming Kanek 41 an
award-winning social commentary and former congressional press secretary
started to investigate buck just a few weeks after Moore's death Kanek set a
tip from a colleague led her to look into the prominent political activist
leticia Nixon Moore's mother told Kanek she had a lot of concerns and was not
getting a lot of answers from the authority we started to figure out
there was a pattern in practice where he solicited and went after young gay
black men usually men who are homeless HIV positive and were in need of food or
money Kanek said citing in-person interviews he conducted published
people who say they had met buck for sex and drugs not all these men were on
drugs when they met Ed buck Kanek added but Ed buck got them on drugs so this
guy this is now two people fitting the same profile who have died in exactly
the same way in this guy's house in LA and in neither case his charges been
filed no the first time they just chalked it up to an accident and to that at
this point it doesn't seem like there's any indication that they're gonna charge
him this time either just like whoops listen to this Ashley Marie Preston a
transgender activist and former board member of the Stonewall Democratic Club
of Los Angeles said she and Ed buck were friends temporarily during their time
on the board Preston later worked to eject buck from the club where he had
been a lifetime member during a mound retreat for the Stonewall Democratic
Club prior to Moore's death Preston said buck joined her for fresh air on the
portrait of a cabin then he pulled out his cell phone and he was like he's so
hot and I was like who and he showed me his phone and there was a black man
sitting in a dark room and the only light in the room was from the light on a
lighter and he was smoking methamphetamine so he's just sharing this
openly with people I mean I don't know where you want to go with this story this
shit is super dark and this guy has not been charged with any crime and when I
saw this story happen like you know the news account said like you know
prominent Democratic donor linked to like you know second drug overdose death
in his house and I saw one of those I don't I forget who one of these like
Democratic Party people were like wow really irresponsible of you to say
that it's a Democratic donor this guy wouldn't even be in the top 20 donors
in California yeah you know like this is this guy's nobody and then in that and
then we have guys who eat children's brains like in fucking Hannibal someone
someone immediately just posted a picture of him shaking hands with Hillary
Clinton so it's just like well I understand if you donate like 10 grand
you can do that you can just get like you know the the yeah whatever but still
kind of odd insanely to pray like this guy is a legitimate psycho who's now
killed two people yep and probably not top 50 psycho creeps probably even in the
California Democratic Party there's probably a guy there's probably a guy
who goes to Indonesia to hunt people with blowdarts or something yeah I mean
that the real high money shit doesn't occur in the US border oh no no you got
to get elsewhere for that stuff so some people when they have money they dream of
smoking weed with Tom Hardy yeah having him maybe massage me a little bit or
rough housing a little rough little wrestling maybe doing the venom voice
while he wrestles me pretending that he's venom like living inside me and
talking to me giving you the goop getting gooped up Tom Hardy and you know
some people do shit that's even more depraved than that some people the
homeless money and power are evil and she should have our evil and this goes
back to the I mean this is where I'm taking an awful circle here this is
like to the original point that Eric Levitt's makes in his piece about how
people are trying to salvage you know the people who run capitalism by being
like if only they were just better people and the answer is we don't need
better elites we don't need elites or we need elites to have far less power
yeah and like that's the thing way way less well the chew go hand-in-hand the
chew go hand-in-hand like they you know we got to take away a lot of their money
and create the institutions that are guess what a counter to them which are
like you know labor unions like that's yeah labor union like that like and
working-class politics and power is like that like what we like again politics is
the solution to political problems and the political problem that we face in
this country is that too few people have way too much fucking money and power and
they're all literal psychos they're blood they're not just killing you know
individual people like but literally all working all life at the end all life on
the planet yeah like Exxon tomorrow Exxon knew that we were headed towards doom
with climate change 40 years ago and said well let's not let that get out
fucking Johnson and Johnson was oh yeah there's a there's a asbestos in your
talcum powder people are gonna get cancer like well we'll put that one on the
bottom of the pile and these yeah these are the people who are supposed to be
better all right fine the guy gets in there and he says wait a minute we
shouldn't be giving people talcum powder with asbestos in it they're like
that's nice and you know much it's gonna cost not to do that and then he's gone
and then they're gonna get a guy who's willing to do that and guess what he
probably hunts people for sports yep and again the answer to when you you know
see weird stories about you know a guy who's praying on young and vulnerable
people and making them inject meth until they literally fucking die and then get
away with it obviously the you know the conspiracy angle is the tempting one as
we've talked about before it's the sort of literary one it's the one that that's
fun and and it has a narrative yeah and it like we we we intuit something about
it like you know immediately the answer of course is that it's not
conspiracy it's politics and it's out in the open and the political problem again
is that people like Jeff Bezos are allowed to have 60 billion fucking
dollars even cough up in a divorce yeah first place there's no conspiracy to
that yeah right there that's such a 90s thing and there was a there was a I
remember some Portlandia joke when some guy was like you know one of the armist
in characters was like no I don't own a car did you know that all cars are made
by a corporation like it's this very 90s thing that I feel like people are
still kind of stuck in and it's like no that's it's not a secret yeah the
fantasy the fantasy of conspiracy theory isn't even really that there are evil
people controlling things it's that they have to be secret about it or that
there's some way that they would be brought down if it was revealed because
it's all in the open right it doesn't matter yeah you have to bring them down
by organizing countervailing institutions but that's it is yeah it is
very appealing to think you know once they're revealed yeah their power will
just dissipate but the institutions that brought them to that level will still
persist and they're the institutions that are going to adjudicate their guilt
or innocence and that means that that sunlight is not going to do the job
because because it's all actually not the best disinfectant bleach and fire
fantastic it's great and you know I mean it's not the score points and the
Democrats this is just like well yes it is of course I'm always do that obviously
but like yeah like you know QAnon or like you know Maga people will be like
oh it's proof they're all you know they're all gay sex predator degenerate
sickos and it's just like haha Dennis Aster was a long server and he was a
Republican and you know Margaret Thatcher the queen goddess of the
conservative movement the the the the Diane to Ronald Reagan Sam had pedophiles
in her cabinet that she knew about and protected the entire time she was
apparently like you can't even write about no yeah I love those libel laws
they got over there not even that like scarier shit than that yeah no like mailing
shit to your family all right anyway well we're not in England hopefully we'll be
there soon though and we'll say all that shit on stage and give us a right
clobbering it'll be like Benny Hill except for being chased by a bunch of
those barristers with the wigs yeah well actually we do hope to be in
Lynn soon that's a little giving a little news there gonna happen it's gonna
happen yeah nudge nudge wink wink UK maybe so yeah that about doesn't for us
this week I just like you plug again the choppo store is now live you have a
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shop on behalf of me will medicare amber and Matt bye bye it's pretty bitch we're
seeing this incredibly large company getting involved in almost every area of
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that Amazon has you know right now in this country we don't talk about it
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