Chapo Trap House - Movie Mindset 02 Teaser - Angel Heart
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Let's start with Angel Hart first, but before we get into that, I introduced Mickey Rourke,
like longtime followers of me on Twitter will know that I've been a long been a Mickey's,
one of Mickey's biggest advocates on social media. I think he's probably the most talented
actor of that generation of like the 80s leading man, notoriously kind of a mercurial talent,
shall we say? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just on last week's episode, we talked about the IMDb trivia note of Denzel Washington did
not enjoy working with Mickey Rourke on Man on Fire, which is funny because they did not
share a single scene together. However, in Angel Hart, has so would you would you guess
that Robert De Niro enjoyed working with Mickey Rourke?
Let me think. I would have to guess no. Can I put a friend actually?
It began a lifelong feud between the two of them to which Mickey Rourke said of it, I used
to look up to him now I look through him. I also saw that he didn't make you work blame
De Niro for him not getting a role. Yes, not getting a role in the Irishman, which is so
funny because like to picture Mickey Rourke looking as he does now in the milieu of the
Irishman is a very funny thing to picture. It was sort of like you would show people
would scream at restaurants if he walks in the door.
And then like as we'll get into like there is a very interesting sort of meta parallels
between Mickey Rourke's character, Harry Angel in Angel Hart and Mickey Rourke like the person.
We'll get into that. But just as some introductory thoughts like how do you view Mickey Rourke?
How do you view him as an actor and like his body of work?
Well, I, growing up, I knew mostly his later work such as like, you know, like Man on Fire
and The Wrestler, you know, Sad Rourke where he's kind of down and out his kind of past
his prime all messed up in the face area, the brain area possibly as well. But I think
I'd never seen either of these two movies before, but I had become very familiar with
Young Mickey and his beautiful, beautiful face and charms.
I mean, that is really it when you're talking about Mickey Rourke as a guy who was like the
most handsome, charismatic, like sort of like street wise, this like, this like panther
like presence in his movies in the 80s. Like one of the most handsome men who's ever existed.
And then now, you know, in like later area, later era, Mickey Rourke, he's done a lot
of bad stuff. I mean, like he looks totally different than he did back then. I mean, The
Wrestler is sort of a commentary on his entire career in a way. But yeah, it's just like,
as I said, to introduce it, like he's a like an extraordinarily good looking man who plays
really sleazy, ugly guys. And that's something that I've always really appreciated about
him as an actor and his choices and the roles he does.
Oh, yeah.
And a lot of his movies as well, like there, there, there does seem to be a theme about
like him being facially disfigured in some way. Like there was the Walter Hill movie
he did called Johnny Handsome. Have you ever seen that? No, it's about like an Eric Stoltz
mask style guy who does a bank robbery and then he gets facial reconstruction surgery
and he looks like Mickey Rourke.
Oh, shit.
And we'll get, we'll get into it in
Johnny Handsome. That's like the name of a character in Angel Heart.
Yeah, Johnny's favorite.
Yeah.
Johnny Handsome, Johnny's favorite.
But in Angel Heart, I chose Angel Heart and Barfly because I think that they are, they
are Mickey Rourke at like the height of his powers as like a sexy leading man, but playing
so against type in both of those movies as like leading men and, you know, two very unlikable
characters, shall we say.
Yeah.
I mean, like Barfly, obviously he warms my heart in that movie.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
But let's get into it in Angel Heart, a movie that may contain actual evil.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is directed by Alan Parker, who's other films he's probably best known for. He directed
Fame, he directed Mississippi Burning, he directed The Commitments, and he also directed Pink
Floyd's The Wall. This, this to me though, Angel Heart is like the real standout of his
entire career.
Oh, yeah.
What is it? What is Angel Heart about?
Angel Heart is a movie about.
What a question.
Angel Heart is a movie about fan death.
It's about the Korean superstition that fans steal your soul and life is also about the
unique malevolence of chickens.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, chickens. It's about how, you know, if you don't remember anything that happened
in your past at any point, there might be something going on, you know. And if you're
ever, if you're ever hired to do a job by a guy whose name is Mr. S. Aiton, D. E.
Ville, don't take it.
Yeah.
Just pass up on that, on that contract.
But yeah, like Angel Heart is sort of, it starts out as kind of a hardboiled noir, private
eye detective story, but very quickly becomes something else entirely.
Yeah.
This is a fusion of two of my favorite genres, like sort of noir detective stories and occult
Satan worship.
Yeah. It really, I'd never seen this and knew nothing going into it about it. So like,
when it started, I was like, okay, New York City, let's go. 50s. Let's fucking do it.
You know, like detective, he's going around the set dressing on point. Everything looks
perfect. It looks beautiful.
The production and set design in this movie is so good in layer and texture.
It's like unreal.
That's one of the things I want to talk about.
Yeah.
And the cinematography, gorgeous. And, you know, it's Rourke running around, going around.
He's got his signature Rourke charms. He is shown to seduce many a woman at many points
in this.
Much to his detriment later in the film, his chagrin, if you will.
But yeah, like she bring it up like it opens in New York in 1955. And like you said, like
the details of the the first third or so of this movie, it's like it's New York. It's
the winter.
He goes upstate at one point. And just like, I want to talk about like just the feel that
this movie conjures that Alan Parker does with like the steam rising rising from the
grates, the way he uses staircases and shadows to kind of bisect the frame of the camera
sax wells.
Yeah.
Like this jazzy music playing in the background like a German expressionist almost shattered.
Yeah.
And then like, as you mentioned, there are so many details in this movie that actually
are actually really clues if you add it up at the end. There are so many like close up
shots of like nightstands, coffee tables, desk and just desks like they're just sort
of detritus of like ashtrays, pens, papers, little curios and trinkets, keys that it's
just this like creases really like texture layered sense of like set design where like
just like and hands as well like they provide little clues for the movie.
The main clue in this movie is the repeated visual motif of fans of fans. And then like
there are analogs that are found elsewhere in the movie like the rotary phone, the wheels
of a car. And then of course, the great the giant, the biggest fan of all the wonder wheel
in Coney Island.
Yep.
We'll get into what that symbolizes. But I'll just say like we first see Mickey Rourke
playing a private investigator, Harry Angel, and he's walking down a street in 1955, New
York, smoking a cigarette and chewing bubble gum at the same time.
Yes.
He's blasting a sig and then blows a bubble. And he's just like, I'm just trying to imagine
what that would taste like after a few sets.
You've never had the New York double double meal. Forget about it.
So he's from Brooklyn. Yeah. I'm an atheist. I'm from Brooklyn. It was my favorite line
in the movie.
Yeah.
So yeah, like he's a he's a very classic archetype of like a like a sleazy private dick in the
1950s. And he is, you know, contacted by a lawyer who is he's hired by an attorney on
behalf of a client. Now, I don't know if you picked this up. The attorney who hires him,
his name is Winesap from the firm of Winesap and McIntosh. Can you guess the clue in the
names of these attorneys?
Hmm. Let me think. Well, McIntosh, that's like an apple. I hope that's not biblical
in any way.
The first of many religious illusions in this film. So yeah, he is hired by an attorney
played by Dan Florek, who you may remember as Captain Craig in Law and Order and Law and
Order SVU. This is the only movie I can think of that I remember seeing Dan Florek in. Yeah,
I was really surprised that he didn't that he wasn't, you know, on leave for killing
three.
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that happens constantly in SVU. It was just like, Harry Angel, I want you in here now.
You gave the defense our briefing on their client. No, no, but it's Dan Florek and he
is an attorney hired by one Mr. Louise Seifer. He's a foreign gentleman. Louise Seifer played
by Robert De Niro for the full episode. Subscribe at Patreon.com slash Chompo Trap House in 1987.
I think Robert De Niro is probably a bigger actor than Mickey Rourke. And he is like an
extremely supporting role in this movie. He's only in a couple scenes. And it is De Niro
in a way that he's like really never played before. He's playing this very like, loose,
weird, like sort of vaguely European, foreign man with really long like pimp for the full
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