CheapShow - Ep 231: What Kind Of Europop Is This?

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

Urinevision is on the way! As Paul & Eli dot the i's and cross the t's, they decide to take some time to chill before the big show and chill. In this more "relaxed fit" episode, the Cheap Chaps take in some of the slightly more offbeat sides to the Disco craze of the 1970s. Over the next hour, prepare for some Europop goodness with some Eurovision madness. There is also time to take a look at some of Eurovision's weirder moments, reflecting on those times you've sat back and thought "what were they thinking?". Urinevision is going to be a BIG show, so why not have a nice small one beforehand? Share & Enjoy. Photos/Videos for this episode can be seen at https://www.thecheapshow.co.uk/ep-231-what-kind-of-europop-is-this JOIN US live on Twitch 21 May 2000 BST for UrineVision 2021 www.twitch.tv/cheapshowetc And if you like us, why not support us: www.patreon.com/cheapshow Oh, and you can NOW listen to Urinevision 2020 on Bandcamp... For Free! Enjoy! https://cheapshowpodcast.bandcamp.com/album/urinevision-2020-the-album If you want to get involved, email us at [e-mail] And if you have to, follow us on Twitter @thecheapshowpod or @paulgannonshow & @elisnoid Like, Review, Share, Comment... LOVE US! Also, you can NOW see Eli star in "Ashens & The Polybius Heist", download it from here: https://www.watchpolybiusheist.com MERCH Official CheapShow Merch Shop https://www.redbubble.com/people/cheapshow/shop Www.cheapmag.shop www.tinyurl.com/rbcheapshow Send Us Stuff CheapShow PO BOX 1309 Harrow HA1 9QJ

Right, have you got everything now? I've given you a list, a long list of things to bring. Have you got it? Do you have your list? No. No, you don't have your list. Right, so you haven't prepared anything. I didn't know this was...

Where are we? What do you mean? Where are we? We are conceptually in the House of Pickles. We are in the House of Pickles. Getting ready to go straight to your envision tonight. Oh, that's tonight? That's tonight.

We're going straight. Conceptually, that's the idea behind this fucking episode. I'm pretty nervous about it, Paul. That we are, quote unquote, getting ready to go to the show, quote unquote. And then we're going to, quote unquote, pretend. Stop saying quote unquote. You're doing it too much. To go to your vision.

So this episode links to next week's. You shouldn't do air quotes with your mouth like that. Quote unquote. So. We've got a bath. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm nervous. You can feel the nervous.

It's crackly, spiky, crackly, nervous energy in the room. Yes, we've got about an hour. I've got the list somewhere. Don't worry. We've got about an hour anyway before the taxi turns up.

So, we can just relax for a bit. And I thought what we could do for an hour is just get ourselves in the mood and listen to, talk about Eurovision, talk about your Envision, and play a few tracks that you've selected from your box of magic songs we've got a little uh a few uh numbers how many records do you think you've got roughly because

there's a lot right even in this room i'd say i've got about four thousand sevens You're a boring, boring bastard. You asked me. You're a boring, boring bastard. You're a boring, boring bastard. And I don't want to make this podcast. You're going to die alone. I don't want to make this podcast anymore. You're going to die alone. Welcome to Cheap Show. You'll die alone, you twat.

Welcome to Cheap Show. I hate you and your fucking noodle posse. People love noodles. It's just a fact of Cheap Show you're going to have to learn to fucking accept. Cheap Show. It's the price of shite. Paul Gannon. Eli Silverman. Ice of Shite. Paul Gannon. Eli Silverman.

Welcome to Cheap Show. And I go and I nuzzle. Hello, welcome to Cheap Show. This is our relaxed fit Eurovision. Your Invision. Your Invision. Pre-Your Invision episode. It's a warm up. It's a little relaxed fit.

We're just going to chill. I'm not relaxed at all. We're just going to chill. I'm not relaxed at all. We're just going to chill, yo. Is that you chilling, yo? See what I'm doing? Paul, what you're doing is, quote unquote, unfunny, quote unquote. Quote unquote, fuck off. How about that witty put down?

The fucking Oscar Wilde of podcasts. Have you been following the actual Eurovision contest? I know what you mean. You get confused because of the hype behind Eurovision. Yeah, Eurovision, mate. You can't get it out of your head. I have to say, it's one of your most successful naming things. I know.

Whenever I say it to anyone, I go, oh, we're doing this song contest on my podcast called you're in vision they're like you're in vision yeah like that they're like oh you speak to weird people that's fucking funny no that's good i'm glad that the highlight of my career is a bad pun it has a ring to it it does have a ring to it so do bumholes I was wondering who was going to make that gag first. I had to. I had to get there. I couldn't think of anything. I went to the quickest way to get to the ring.

You took the ring road. I sniffed the ring right out. You took the ring road round. I went round. Come round here on the ring road round. Come round ring road round. Come round here on the ring road round. Yes, I got it right.

Take the ring road round. Get the ring road round here. Shut up. I take the ring road round get the ring road round here shut up shut up I don't know that's tickled me so much it's funny yeah

but have you been following yeah that's what I got a ring as well have you been big old butts we need to say to the listeners

we are quite tired we are quite tired and emotional and Paul you've been working very hard it's a lot harder than I thought it was going to be. Trying to get the technical aspects of your envision sorted out.

Yes, the show is going to be not so much technically difficult, but like logistically difficult. We've got a conceit for the show, which, you know, if you're listening to this on the Friday the 21st, when it goes out this evening on Twitch. This evening is when it is happening. Twitch.tv forward slash Cheap Show, etc. That's what we're doing on the 21st, Friday evening, 8 o'clock, BST.

That's today. Which is summertime. I had to point that out because that's more accurate than GMT. I get confused, but it's BST. No, GMT is not. GMT's an hour behind. I know, but I never know when to use GMT because I thought it was just a standard. No, you say GMT when it's not BST.

So it's only half a year when it's GMT. Yes. And it's BST. But it stays GMT for purposes of international. That's the weird thing. Yes. So they still say it's an out... You're a boring, boring bastard

and you're going to die alone. Not going to do this podcast anymore. Right. So. Everyone. Can I just get this straight? Yeah. It's a sort of philosophical matter.

Yeah. When you say you're going to die alone. Yeah. You mean I'll be alone before I die. Because everyone. Everyone. Not everyone. Who's ever existed has died alone.

No. Some people die with people around them going. No. Around them. But that's not dying alone. You still die. It's still you who makes the journey into the night. No, some people die with people around them going, oh, he's going to die. No, around them, but that's not dying alone. You still die. It's still you who makes the journey

into the night. Well, you know, there's a difference between dying alone. You know, someone's not coming with you and going, oh, we'll die together.

You've just died. Well, when I die, you're coming with me. I won't be dying alone. The bullet's going to go through both our heads at the same time. What the fuck?

Right. I just wanted to point that out. It's just, you know. What I wanted to point out is everyone dies alone. No, what you're saying is you'll be a lonely bastard and no one loves you. That's what you're trying to say. Just put a pin on it.

I'm sorry if my subtext was too subtle. Because I'm so boring, am I? Yeah. Because you're surrounded by vinyl so much so you'll never listen to most of it ever again. I fucking will. You won't. There's lots here that you will never listen to again

Ever It's just sitting here Impotent Impotent music you've got You've got a music that will never Some of it's comedy Some of it's comedy in there Either one out of random

No You don't need to pick anything out at random Oh it's a Richard Pryor record This is very good What's it called Eli? I can't actually say it Well I want to know what the listeners

would like to know the title of that one you picked randomly that Richard Pryor record it was unfortunate that I picked that one out it was a bit unfortunate wasn't it

it's great it's a great album do you know it yeah yeah it's good wonderful stuff have you been following Eurovision at all

I haven't we haven't heard you know what's weird it's just the first I heard of anything was when I randomly came across a tweet that said something about the British song has got trumpets in.

That's all I know. I couldn't tell you any more than that at this time. It's got trumpets in. Yeah. I don't know in what context, whether it's all trumpets, whether the singer's made out of trumpets. It probably features a trumpet player

is what I thought. Because it's all about the show, isn't it? I mean, if it just had a trumpet track, no one's going to mention that. You know, it's funny because the song content... It must have. I bet it's got, like, sorry to interrupt. I bet it's got, like, some kind of sexy trumpet player of some sort. Why did you do a kind of suck a cock move?

It's a bit of a trumpet player. I was a tromboning. Yeah? Yeah. Rusty tromboning. Yes. I know. I was wishing and hoping that I was wanking a homeless man.

A homeless man. There's not a homeless man involved in this. I don't know why you brought that in. A medically subnormally well-endowed homeless man. This is a horrible, horrible image, and I'd like you to stop instantly. Well, you quote-unquote started it. Anyway. Sorry, I got loud there.

Because they didn't have a Eurovision Song Contest last year because of the pandemic. Is that correct? I don't know any of the entries. They've done it remote. I don't know what's going on this year. But I will say this. I find it interesting every year because, allegedly,

the songs win on the quality of the song, right? It's a song contest. You're meant to be really voting for the writers of the song, not the performers. Well that's the thing, every year becomes more about the performance. More spectacle, more show. And I'm not saying... That's not a bad thing necessarily. That's not a bad thing but then

it's like how do you judge the song? I mean obviously there's all the arguments about the politics of Eurovision and this country won't vote for that. All that shit right? Which always gets thrown in but like the Eurovision and this country won't vote for that. Heavy politics. All that shit, right? Which always gets thrown in. But the Eurovision has got something to do with that, doesn't it? Well, this is the thing.

It's got a history. Because I was going to do a thing throughout this episode where we talked about the scandals of Eurovision. And there was a few cute ones like Cliff Richard not winning in his year because congratulations, which everyone remembers winning. Never won. They lost to Spain. But apparently the Spain vote, I can't remember, but the Spain voting was rigged, and apparently the president of Spain got involved at some point.

It's a strange story. It was a bribe. They got bribed. Yeah. But then there are other stories about how security had to be... So congratulations never won. No. But it was a big hit, probably.

Everyone remembers it, but it never won that year. It must have been number one here. Probably. I don't know. Is it true that Puppet on a String... That one, didn't it? That one. I don't know. Is it true that Puppet on a String? That one, didn't it? That one.

I don't know. Who sang it? Sandy Shaw, I want to say. Okay. That one. I think two people. Like a puppet on a string. Did Lulu ever go into Eurovision? Probably.

I think she did Puppet. I don't know. Because she makes you want to shout. Put your knickers down and your hands up. Look around. Come on now. What song's that? This is Bello by Lulu.

Bello by Lulu. How does it go? She makes you want to bello. Bello. Bello. Please stop me. Bello. Quote, unquote, funny.

Quote, unquote, funny. Quote, unquote, funny man. Right, so... UK comedian Paul Gannon died today. But again, going back, all the scandals have included extra security around certain artists because of things like Israel-Palestine and Russia and Georgia and things like that.

And Israel being allowed to be in the song contest when it's in the Middle East. Do you know what I mean? I mean, we shouldn't be in it because you're not in Europe anymore when you think about it. If you want to stroke your knuckles on that thought.

In terms of geography, we're still in Europe. You don't have to be in the EU to be in the song contest. No, but you... You just need Europe, more loosely. Yeah, but you think, after all the fuss of Brexit,

you think we shouldn't be allowed in Eurovision either. They should tell us to fuck off and have our own fucking song contest. Do your British song contest. They want the money. Isn't't be allowed in Eurovision either. They should tell us to fuck off and have our own fucking song contest. Do your British song contest. They want the money. Isn't there some aspect of Eurovision where it is a money-making enterprise? Well, it is for certain countries who get to host it and get all the rights.

It's kind of like a mini Olympics for some countries. Or World Cup or something. It brings a lot of trade and tourism, potentially. It brings money. So fair enough. But I wonder if the actual organisation behind it, who sort of own it, the contest company, I wonder if they are not for profit.

I don't know. Do you know? I don't care. Gwar. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Gwar. What's Gwar?

They won it once, didn't they? No, that wasn't Gwar. That was a band that you think is Gwar. But wasn't Gwar. No, it wasn't. It was something like Kral or Corgi. Gwa versus Kral. Do you know what?

I can actually tell you because there's an article. I thought we could start here before we get to one of your musics about the weirdest performances on Eurovision in its day. Right? So I thought I'd look that up. Hang on. Eurovision. You keep saying Eurovision.

I know. Lord. Lordy. Finland. After winning in 2006. Right. Lordy. Lordy, Finland, after winning in 2006. Lordy, Lordy. That's what they were called, the Guar Knockoff. And they all had horror masks on, basically.

Yeah, that was their whole gimmick. But was it like a thrash song as well? Lordy was called Hard Rock Hallelujah from Finland, 2006. It had standard Christian metal first. They were a Christian metal shock. Weird. I know, I'm probably reading this wrong. But anyway, the lyrics to the song included the lines,

The true believers, thou shalt be saved. Brothers and sisters, keep strong in the faith on the day of rockening. The day of rockening, yes. It's a fucking sweet line. Rock and roll angels bring thine hard rock, hallelujah, in God's creation's supernatural high. So maybe they were.

I can see why they won with that. Juxtapose Christian messages. Anyone who uses the Rockening. Yeah, that's just fucking sweet. Await the Rockening. Yeah. That's like ACDC, for those who are about to rock, we salute you. Yeah.

Ooh! That always cracked me up. So there. I just thought I'd mention that. I'll pick out one or two more interesting performances from Eurovision as we talk throughout the show. Let's talk about a track you've picked, a nice Euro pop. Shall we go over them in the order we listened to? In the order we chose them, yeah.

Let's do that. Firstly, then, I have on the Phillips label, which is... I love these relaxed episodes. Why? Because we're just chilling, man. I've got coffee. We're both smoking. Don't smoke, kids.

It's bad for you. Quote, unquote. Don't. And now we're just chilling and talking. All right, good. I'm glad. I'm glad. You know what?

I need some more light. I'll give you light. No. What's wrong with that light? I'll put this one over my arm. Put the light on. All right. Come on, love.

Sorry. Come on, love. You're wasting precious time. Come on, love. This is perfectly good light. I'll put this one over my arm. Put the light on. Alright. Come on love. Sorry. Come on love you're wasting precious time. Come on love this is perfectly good light. There. Great. Get that fucking thing out of my face. And the lamp. And also your knob. Yeah well no that was the joke I was making. That was a quote unquote joke.

Quote unquote. Veronica Unlimited. Do you know anything about Veronica Unlimited? I do not. But from listening to the song and looking at the cover, the cover seems to portray Veronica Unlimited as... Terrible people. Yes.

A group consisting of four ladies and one bloke who's got a very thin moustache, some kind of leather waistcoat tie. It's not a good look. Oh, there is a Wikipedia article. It's all in foreign English. Right, I'll translate it. God, the future's great.

Name of a Dutch group formed in 77... Yes, because Philips is a Dutch company. This is on the Philips label. 77 by a guy called Hans Van Helmet. I bet that's him, Van Helmet, in the middle. No, Hermet, not Helmet. I wish he'd just called him Helmet. Van Helmet.

So it consisted of a bunch of people who know each other and sang great. The group became famous with the song What Kind of Dance Is This? That's the tune we're covering today, Paul. Which was in the top 40 for 10 weeks in 77. How high do you think that got? Seven? Something like that? Number two.

It was a number two hit. I don't know where. It also took second place in the National Hit Parade in a performance by Top Hop. Besides the band members, a number of extras were present, including a speaking master

with a megaphone in a referee's chair. Yeah, that's the guy you can hear. After that, not much was heard from this group ever again. Well, it's one fucking weird medley with a guy. That's what I like, that guy. Shall we play for a bit? Because it's that guy who goes,

Yeah, let's do that. Woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo Get that boogie shout Dance, what kind of dance is this? All night long What kind of song is this? Turning me on Making those lights go on and on Out, on and on again It keeps me going on Making those lights go on and out, out, on and out again. It keeps me going on.

What kind of dance is this? All night long. What kind of song is this? Turning me on. Making those lights go on and on Out on and on again It keeps me going on Do you, do you, do you, do you wanna dance? Do you, do you, do you, do you wanna dance?

Oh baby Do you wanna dance? Yes, it's a medley. A medley of all your favourite hits from the 70s or whatever's popular when they were making this album. And it's sort of from the... It's from the sort of... The song is told from the sort of perspective

of someone coming into a dance club, maybe, and they're going, what kind of dance is this? You know what I mean? I like it, you know? Like, it's like the judges at the end of Flashdance or something, you know what I mean? So hang on, so...

Getting into it. Someone's walking down the street. Very prim and proper. Like, oh, what is this noise? And then they come in and they go, oh. Actually quite good. It's actually quite. Music.

Music. And then they go, what kind of dance is this? Hang on. What does it say? What kind of song or dance? Turning me on. What kind of dance is this? What kind of dance?

Well, the answer's disco. So they see some Lothario, you know. Yeah. Like John Travolta type, and they go, What kind of dance is this? Froffing me off. But it doesn't tell you in the song. I'm getting all bubbly. It doesn't tell you in the song, though, does it? My panties are froth.

My panties are froth. My panties are froth. Sounds like a bad translation. Right. What I want you to tell me is, I got the impression, because there's a female singer and backing singers, who are also female,

but then you've got the megaphone guy who sort of announces the little transitions between the medleys. Oh, now it's time to dance! Whatever. That's who sits in the referee's chair. Yeah, but is that him on the cover there? I mean, I presume so.

I'm surprised they didn't put it on the cover, him sitting in a referee's chair with a megaphone, because that would have sold the image. Yeah, but is that him on the cover there? I mean, I presume so. I'm surprised they didn't put it on the cover, him sitting in a referee's chair with a megaphone, because that would have sold the image. Yeah, better. He just looks sleazy as hell. It looks like a guy who's sort of... It looks like a guy who spent a lot of money to get a load of models in to pose with him.

Well, it looks like a bad 70s stand-up. Terrible. His moustache is pure, insidious. But there was a lot of this, because as you pointed out, what year is this this did we find out 77 77

so getting towards the arse end of the 70s and disco is not too far away from imploding right oh it's at 77 is the height was the boom of it right

yeah the peak I thought you could say so where there are a lot of songs where there was medleys because remember that cafe cream with the Beatles thing which I know is a different genre

and blah blah blah no that's still that is almost exactly the same genre if you think about it disco it has a beat that sort of links all of the medley bits you see what i mean and it goes back to the disco do do and then they do the it's a strange phenomenon that i don't understand because famously stars on 45 which were sold completely on here's 40 songs in a row all cut to the same beat so So you can put them on at a party. But why were those albums made? Why were there albums that were like, forget the disco medley,

why were there people who go, we're going to do covers of all your favourite Beatles songs and release it as an album, when people can just buy a Beatles album? Cheaper. Because K-Tel did a lot of that, right? Yeah, much cheaper. And the top of the Pops albums were all covers.

And if you buy a Beatles album, you're not going to be dancing the whole way through. You just want recognisable stuff. Well, forget about the synchronisation, you know, the putting it to a beat. I'm talking about when people release cover songs of bands that are already out at the same time releasing songs. It's cost. It's just a strange thing for me. And why would you go, oh, I'm going to listen to Bertie Bassett and the Greyhounds version?

Because, if you think about it, before recorded music, people listened to music by having a piano in their house. And you'd either play a piano that would play these songs

or you'd buy the sheet music. Do you see what I mean? That was the hit. Okay, yeah, you were buying the sheet music, yeah. And that was your first chance,

So it didn't matter who played the song. The song is the most important thing. It's like, you know, my daughter will play it on the piano, this song that's what you were buying play it on the piano this song i love that song play it on the piano yeah you buy the sheet music do you see what i mean but wouldn't it be expensive for a band to do the songs of the beatles and release them as their own no they just buy they buy they buy they

pay parlophone whoever's got the got the rights of that because like like i mentioned a minute ago like the top of the pops albums which are which are, you know, compendiums, but they were all covers. Like famously, like Elton John performed pianos on some of the songs before he was famous. Yeah, so what they did is they got all the songs,

sort of popular song of the time, and just said, people just want these songs. It doesn't matter to them about the artist. It's the song that is, do you see what I mean? But then they have to cover the song.

Which I think is sort of a leftover from that earlier period where the song was much more important than any particular artist or any particular performance. It's only once you get into the rock and roll era that the artist and recording is more important. Do you see what I mean? Okay, I see what you mean. The specific artist.

And so there's a hangover that in the 60s. People just go, oh, I want to party. We just want a song. And they'll just stick a song on because the k-tel version would be significantly cheaper to buy a k-tel or uh top of the pops compilation yeah of different artists you know not the because they were quote unquote good enough yeah they were in the back of a room when you were much cheaper yeah interesting because also i guess there wasn't such a thing as a now that's what i call 26 where all those songs would be listed so you'd put them all on a on reflection that makes sense when you see a compendium of covers like the top of the

pop's albums yes which wasn't related to the top of the show ktel right words compilations of just chart hits by the original artist that came through pretty quick and it wasn't until the now albums or something when they became a proper here are the artists no and that's what i'm saying early kt i've got a few yeah ktl lps which have like elton john uh you know backing or they just get the rights for certain songs and they put them out you know so how come it's called top of the pops there if the bbc had a show called top of the pops i don't think top of the pops was a copyrighted name oh i see so bbc just went that was a popular phrase what's top of the pops we'll call it top of the pops so they didn't have yeah i think so that's interesting he definitely didn't what's Top of the Pops we'll call it Top of the Pops so they didn't have yeah I think so

that's interesting because you definitely didn't have the Top of the Pops records we should tell the listeners what these were a bit more specifically okay so Top of the Pops

were a bunch of compendium albums featuring all the latest hits they were all they were all done by cover bands yeah cheap cover bands

just good versions yeah mostly Scousers and again you've got you've got to remember as well people wouldn't have access to all of those songs here on the radio you couldn't just download it no so they you know so they're in the shop and they go oh i like all these songs it was cheaper

to get this than to buy 12 singles yeah or it's cheaper than to this than to buy a rolling stones album or whatever yeah four albums whatever so yeah i guess it was a way of kind of your own first early mixtapes before mixtapes were even a thing. Exactly. Oh, that's interesting. To do with access. You couldn't, you know,

obviously these days it seems ridiculous that you'd ever want to listen to a second rate cover version of a song that's already available. But it wasn't as available. No. The last we had of that, the last, in my opinion, of that genre,

is probably Jive Bunny and the Master Mixers. Yes. But that did it in a retro way, didn probably Jive Bunny and the Master Mixers. Yes, but that did it in a retro way, didn't it? Because it was more like sampling. It was more like, it's stealing. Yes, but it also was bringing back those rock and roll songs, still in an era where people would remember them, those songs, but not necessarily have access to them.

Because you'd only hear it on the Goldies radio, or you wouldn't be able to hear those songs. This is the thing. The 80s were famous for being very kind to its 50s and 60s artists so that's why for example the best example is back to the future brought back that 50s aesthetic and the popularity of that music yes and then you led on to films like you know uh labamba yeah and and there was a huge sort of 50s rock and roll 80s thing and then jive money came at at the time when people were still kind of hearing that music. When was the first Jive Money?

Like, 88 or 87? I would say that, yeah. So it was still, like, you know, there was still James Brown and Aretha Franklin in the charts in the 80s. Yeah. Because of that revival. Yeah. And they were kind of going, oh, there's a bit of glam. Here's a song with all the glam hits in a row.

Here's a song with all the kind of... Is that what Jive Money did? Yeah, yeah. Because, like, songs were themed around genres of music so the first song swing the mood was all the kind of big band stuff yes and then they had the rock and roll rock and roll one and then they had the glam one if you have a glam one i've never heard that like devil gate drive and then it was gary glitter and all this kind of leader yeah the lead all of that and so the first album was basically a mix of all those kind of songs and mix-ups.

Yes, but it was like sampling because they didn't usually play the whole songs, did they? It's kind of a halfway house between those cover albums and the medleys and actual samples. But this is the thing. It's like people are often loathe to bring up Jive Bunny in terms of real music. Quote, quote, quote, quote, real music. Yeah, they're not highbrow, that's for sure. But they kept those things alive. Well, that's the thing.

For me, it was my first exposure to the Little Brown Jug and the Pennsylvania 65,000, the big band music and stuff. And I was like, oh, Spike Jonze, oh, that's amazing. And so it did let me... Spike Jonze? Yeah, you know, I'm saying once I started finding out about big band music and loving all that stuff. Yeah, then you found out about Spike Jonze. Then I was going, oh, Spike Jonze is like, you know, I'm saying once I started finding out about big band music and loving all that stuff. Yeah, then you found out

about Spike Jonze. Then I was going, oh, Spike Jonze is like the wacky version of a Glenn Miller. He's incredibly wacky. Beautiful stuff though. Fucking great.

Who's that? I wish I could do it. He was the very first guy to say, quote unquote. I nearly broke my neck doing that. Would you like another...

Oh, didn't we talk about Veronica enough? What else is there to say? What do they medley in that tune? I've forgotten now. It was so long ago. Let's just see what they medley, because you're not going to be able to play the whole thing.

Yes, it does. Because they had to list it. All right. What kind of dance is this? Frothing my gas. My gas, it's bubbling. That is not the track listing. Frothing, nice.

Do you want to maybe say words? I am frothing and nice. Including, do you want to dance? Yes. A hard day's night. Yes. Let me in. And I don't know what let me in is, but.

And Mr. Tambourine Man as well. Hey, Mr. Tambourine. That's not really one. I mean, they do discify it, but you shouldn't, because that's not the point of that song. No, you shouldn't. Who was that again? Hey, Mr. Tambourine.

Bob Dylan? Yes. Yes. But the most famous version was the birds. Oh, of course. Yeah. Oh, I always get confused between the birds and the animals. Birds are a type of animal.

I know, but that's bands, the birds and the animals. Why do you get them confused? I don't know. One's American, one's British. Yeah, but they had a similar canon. They had nothing similar about them. Fuck off. Anyway, here's the next.

I thought I'd bring this up again, because I think it was relevant to our last Eurovision episode when we talked about stuff. But remember you played Genghis Khan or Genghis Khan? Yes. So that's a Europop. Do you know what country entered that in 1979? What nationality was it?

Germany. It was a German group. Because Boney M had had such a huge success with Rasputin. Because that was the weirdest topic for it. They were like, we want another famous monster from history. Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan, who raped and pillaged his way across all of Europe. Well, Rasputin wasn't like a bag of laughs.

No, he wasn't. But he's kind of like the... He was horrible. Again, listen to Last Podcast on the Left, five-part history on it, because it's fucking amazing. He's a fascinating character

and probably one of the most important people in history, when you think about what happened. He was definitely very important in history, but also, you know,

he was horrible. A bastard. Yeah, horrible person and... Not an actual murderer, though, was he? No, he was just... He was exploitative. Whereas Genghis Khan, you know.

Was just a monster. An absolute monster. But perhaps that's why, you know, Ra Ra Rasputin was a hit, and Genghis Khan, everyone's like, come on, that's pushing it a bit far. True, but he was good at skateboarding. It's like Bill and Ted reference, because he does skateboarding in that.

Memory decapitates. It's a bit like having, you know, I don't know. What? Like, I don't know. You? Like, I don't know. You know, so Churchill on a skateboard. Shut up! Churchill on a skateboard. Churchill on a skateboard.

And then it was like, hey, and then Hitler comes on a skateboard. And then it was like, ooh. What are you talking about? I'm talking about Rasputin being a hit. And then Genghis Khan. It was a hit as well, wasn't it? Yeah, but there was no disco hit about Hitler skateboarding

I wish there was no we couldn't make that work so it just talks about how Genghis Khan was just chosen randomly by this band called Genghis Khan

they're not called Genghis Khan the band was called Genghis Khan weren't they yeah but only after they'd chosen Genghis Khan but that's what I'm saying

they weren't like oh god we need some monster from history to do a song about hang on we'd chosen Genghis Khan. But that's what I'm saying. They weren't like, oh, God, we need some monster from history to do a song about. Hang on, we're called Genghis Khan. It was there all the time. Do you know what I mean? My point... No.

So many bands for Eurovision are built for the show. Yes. They didn't exist before that song. And they obviously were as well, is what I'm saying. And it was like, what's the song called? Genghis Khan. What are we called? Genghis Khan.

You filled the forming wrong. Ah, whatever. Whatever. We are still cool and groovy. Yeah, we're Genghis Khan is like What are we called? Genghis Khan You filled the forming wrong Whatever We are still cool and groovy Yeah we are Genghis Khan Now quickly Put on the Genghis Khan costume And start doing the dancing Now It's funny as well

It's not as good a song as Rasputin No And it's boring No But The interesting thing about this Is apparently a year after they did Eurovision

Right after their strange show Eurovision Eurovision Think about it as subliminal advertising Okay They were banned from entering a year after they did Eurovision. Right, after their strange show. Eurovision. Eurovision. Think about it as subliminal advertising. They were banned from entering the Soviet Union due to anti-communist concerns.

I don't even know why. Who had the concerns? The Soviets had a concern that for some reason Well, it was Genghis Khan, Genghis Khan. He was anti-communist, Genghis Khan.

Oh, yeah. He was like very hierarchical, wasn't he? I don't know. I don't know anything about Genghis Khan outside of what I watched in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Genghis Khan. Was he? Oh yeah. He was very hierarchical, wasn't he? I don't know. I don't know anything about Genghis Khan outside of what I watched in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Genghis Khan, I do know this small amount. And that everyone apparently has a little

bit of his DNA in him. Yes, I have a small amount of knowledge about Genghis Khan from, you know, history YouTube. It's an anomaly. Like, they were sort of anomalous in history, the Genghis Khan, the Horde. They conquered everywhere and they were like hugely, like... history the the Genghis Khan the horde they conquered everywhere and they were like hugely like they were terrifying you know you knew if you saw them on the horizon

you were fucked but also there's people who think that they were this in a way with the start of secular society because what Genghis Khan did is he tolerated people's creed and religion as long as he was in control so he was like I don't care what you fucking do, provide me or give you money to me. Yeah. It's provided I get the money sort of thing. And he was just quite... But they see now

as sort of almost progressive. Do you see what I mean? Okay. Because he wasn't imposing. Oh, in that one small aspect. Yeah, he'd still kill your daughters or whatever, but you know, take them.

And do all kinds of horrible shit. But he'd let you worship Christ or whatever, you know what I mean? Yeah, he'd be like, Merry fucking Christmas. Don't give me fucking christmas but you know people do say so people don't say you know they they say there were things about it what happened to him in the end how did he because the mongols were like what in terms of like control is like the bigger than the romans right into their empire

i think it just got he you know he's he had descendants or sons who took over and it just it it waned. Okay, so legacy by legacy just kind of dissipated. I believe he wasn't the last of the... The Karns. Yeah, the Karns. No, the very last one was in space with Kirk. Oh, kicked off. It kicked off with the Genesis device.

Oh, that was terrible. No, I'm thinking of the one with Benedict Cumberdeck. No one talks about Star Trek into darkness. Who am I? Mustache twirl. Khan. Hands up. Yes, you boy.

Don't know, don't care, sir. Thank you. Oh, look, here's a Tribble reference. No one gives a fuck. Yeah. If you want to see a good modern Star Trek film, Star Trek Beyond.

That's my movie reference. I don't think it's good. You didn't like it? I prefer the first one. I actually think it's the best one of the three. But can we all agree the second was shit?

Absolute dog shit. And that's all we've got time for on Eli and Paul's Movie Night. We'll see you next week. We'll be talking about Spiral. You were meant to do another moment. You were meant to do another one. It's the only other one I was going to mention. Because there are weird and wonderful ones through time.

But I wanted to go back to our previous episode. Because remember that turkey song that you fell in love with? Well, I wouldn't say fell in love with. You were laughing like a drain when you heard it. And quite rightly, because it was just crazy. I was going through some shit at the time, you know. Oh, right. That's the excuse.

I was in here by myself. You were emotionally fragile. Apparently, I'm going to die alone. So, you know. Well, lucky you. Weird. So anyway, for those who don't remember that episode or haven't heard it, one year, Ireland decided to enter Eurovision. And you've got to remember, they don't just appear on or haven't heard it one year ireland decided to enter eurovision and

it was you got to remember they aren't just like they don't just appear on the stage on the day and say where island here's our song there's like in each country they whittle the songs down oh yeah there's competitions within each country so eventually ireland say we voted for this song and one year ireland voted for a song sung by a kind of hot happy hardcore turkey yeah and. And I think it was voiced by the people who did Zig and Zag because those puppeteers were from Ireland and they had a show in Ireland and they were known for doing puppet shows. I've got that Zig and Zag song on 7-inch.

Which one? Them All Love Me. Them All Love Me. I fucking love that track. Them Girls, Them Girls, Them All Love Me. It goes on too long, but I do love that track because I like that bit where it goes, boom, boom, the crowd go boom,

the check it, the wreck it, the crowd go boom the check it the wreck it the crowd go boom it's actually quite good as sort of pop what would you call that stuff it's like Two Unlimited isn't it it's that style late 90s

like the out there out here brothers out there brothers yeah don't stop moving baby oogie boogie drive me crazy or Wiggle It

whoever did Wiggle It just a little bit Wiggle It just a little bit I want to see you wiggle it just a little bit. Wiggle it, just a little bit. I want to see you wiggle it, just a little bit. Physically fit, physically fit, physically, physically, physically fit. So, yeah, so the thing is, at this point, I think, what year was this? 2008.

There was kind of like a joke that Ireland always won Eurovision. Well, that's what I was going to say. They've had a disproportionate amount of success over the years, haven't they, Ireland? Mostly with awful ballads that everyone forgets. But... Well, that's the Westlife formula, isn't it? So there's an argument to say that Ireland purposely voted for this Turkey thing. Westlife were Irish, weren't they?

Yes. Yeah, thank you. And Boyzone, if you want more of that. And Boyzone as well. But didn't they both do just ballads after ballad after ballad? No, Westlife were very much the energy-less ballad. And Boyzone had some more up-tempo numbers. They had more upbeat.

They did the whole kind of almost Spice Girls-y thing where they went for a Motown-y sound every now and then. Well, I prefer that to the Westlife drivel. Westlife, I don't think, did anything upbeat. It was always on a bench going... They were always standing on a pillar with their arms outstretched going, I'm a boy in love with you. I'll hold you in me arms.

I really didn't like that. And I'll nudge you with me groinal. Groinal nudging, groinal nudging. I'm flying without wings. Because my groin has anti-gravity. My groin has anti-gravity. It just won't keep itself down. I've got to strap it to my boat.

It's swinging it around. My mother said, put it away. What you going to do? I said, mother dearest, I'm gonna stick it down with glue. Now, Bill Donut appearing again. Not Bill Donut. It's Paul Organ in all times. There's a bit of Donut in all of

us. So anyway, they argue that they put the turkey in so they could lose Eurovision purposely so they didn't have to fucking host it. Oh, so it was like a producer's thing. They tried to lose but then it got big. Who knows? Who knows what the story is? But for whatever reason, it didn't you know it didn't win it didn't win no it didn't fucking win but but they didn't get to do your vision in the end because it didn't win the semi-finals which means oh it never got into the actual contest it didn't win ireland's nomination oh i'm gone maybe i've

read this wrong no because it performed in your revision so mate i'm confused it says here needless to say didn't make it past the semi-finals headlines the day after the performance made a lot of bad puns about roasting maybe they just didn't make it into the final show

and this was their big hit to try and get into the final Ireland chose this but it didn't get through to the actual show so yeah therefore they weren't in the competition that year

but I think it was even no because you do get an entry all of the countries get an entry yeah so it wasn't Ireland's entry maybe it wasn't Ireland's entry but no it was their think it was even... No, because you do get an entry. All of the countries get an entry. Yeah. So it wasn't Ireland's entry. Maybe it wasn't Ireland's entry, but... No, it was their entry.

It was. It was. But what I'm saying is it won the Irish folks, but it didn't get into Eurovision proper. And then if you are here, there's a band in 2013, Caesar, called It's My Life, Romania, right? And the whole theme was vampires.

So a guy... I think I saw that. Yeah, he was in a land of vampires. So he's doing this stage on a blood stage, and all these people who are pale going, oh, you sexy vampires. I don't know. Silky red tops lay beneath Caesar,

resembling a sea of blood, while pale red dancers perform acrobatics around him, at one point raising the top and slowly elevating Caesar until he's riding that red wave into eternity. Sounds good. Talk a bit gothic. He said he performed as a regal vampire.

Oh, despite that his entry, It's My Life is a run-of-the-mill love song that has nothing to do with vampires. Right. They just did, yeah. It's like, your song's a bit shit. What have you got to spice up? Well, I just saw the film Twilight.

We do that. We do that. We do Twilight. Hey, violent. Hey, vampire's so hot right now. Yeah, it's groovy hot. All our accents are the same when it comes to Europe. You know, we were going to do zombies, but zombies are so trashy right now. I want to suck your cock.

I like it. I like it. I think I'm going to buy it. I like it, you know. Good. So let's move on from those things Because my battery's just died on my phone So we have to now move on

So what's the next pop hit? Oh the next song we're going to cover today Paul Is Oh not that Oh Cappuccino Cappuccino And it's called You can't get frothier than a cappuccino can you?

You can't And they are a very frothy group Now you've done a bit of research. A little bit of research. There wasn't much to find out about them. What did we find out they were from? They are an Italian band, but were based in Spain. Ah.

So I don't know why... Can't get more euro than that. No, what a strange thing, though, to release music through Spanish labels, even though you're an Italian band. Now, on the cover to this this is their cover version of Proud Mary the Credence Clearwater

revival song yes shall we play a little bit of that now of their version yeah let's do it now this is Cappuccino

with Proud Mary Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Looking for a job in the city Looking for the man Every night and day And I never lost The meaning of sleeping Holding back the way That things might not be

Just a little skip on Sunday Round and round To get some money Roll up Roll up Roll along the free road They've disco-fied it. I mean, it's a choice, but that voice, the female voice... It's not. So here's the best way I can describe it.

To me, it sounds like someone took the Bee Gees and then shrank them down by 50%. Because their voices sound like they're doing that falsetto thing, but via pinky and perky. It's a very childish falsetto, isn't it? It's an odd choice. They make odd choices. They do look more fun than Veronica Unlimited, though.

They're there on the beach, on the photo, on the cover of this because it's got did you know Paul did you know seven inch singles on the continent almost always come

with a picture sleeve whereas in the UK and US they don't tend to they tend to come with a plain company sleeve

with the hole in the middle no the hole in the middle is everywhere except Britain the big hole is that what you're talking about yeah

like that one the big hole is everywhere except Britain weird isn big hole, is that what you're talking about? Yeah, like that one. The big hole is everywhere except Britain. Weird, isn't it? Yeah, it is strange. And they have a whole different hole system. Not the big hole in terms of the hole in the actual vinyl. I'm talking about the sleeve with the big hole so you can see the actual sticker.

Oh, yes. Yeah. Like a company sleeve with a big hole so you can see the label. Yeah, so you can see the label and stuff. That's commonplace in Britain and the US. But in Europe, it's like stick a picture on it. They always have pictures. Yeah. Why is that, do you think? Just because they're more creative? I have no idea. That's commonplace in Britain and the US. But in Europe, it's like, stick a picture on it. They always have pictures.

Why is that, do you think? Just because they're more creative? I have no idea. It's a mystery. It's one of these mysterious things. They don't even know why... It's a mystery! They don't really know why Britain went with the small spindle. That wasn't common in America.

They didn't have the big holes. They all came with big holes in America. They all came with big holes in America. They all came with big holes in America. It's just in Britain, so that's why you need those converters. They're all there on a dinghy. They're having a lovely time. They look like... I like

this vest. I once kissed a girl under a dinghy. How did you get under the dinghy? The dinghy used to be upside down in a friend's garden, and we used to use it as a tent. I bet he was stank in there. I bet he was. I was feted. Rotted plastic and moss.

I can smell the side of that dinghy. You know, you can smell the soil. Yeah. And you can also smell the rotting. Yeah, the plastic.

So I once kissed a girl and it was one of my earliest memories of kissing. It was nice. Didn't do anything? I'm glad for you. Didn't do anything naughty? No, I didn't.

What? I was like six. I've seen. Mate, we're moving on. We're moving on. Because there's no way I'm going to let you carry on with that thought. I know, I shouldn't. We used to play kiss chase.

And there was like this concrete tunnel. Yeah. Put it this way. Mate, is this going to... It was my first flash of the old... Mate, please don't. Don't carry on with any of your thoughts. Let me have this thought.

This guy in the band who's got the guitar, look at his multicoloured vest. It's nice. It's cool. He looks a bit like Robin Williams. No, he doesn't. I like the lady in the back with the green vest who's spread her arms out.

It's not a vest. That's a dress. Dress. I meant to say dress, but the word vest came out instead. And look, they've got their LP. So they are promoting their LP because the LP's on the beach with them. Yeah, because you buy the single and you go, oh, they're old. They must have an LP.

What's all this? They have an LP. Pity the image is too small for me to really understand. So I'm going to take a wild guess when it comes out. Ridiculous photo. All right. But the other side of that, I mean, it's not very good, is it? Their cover of Proud Mary.

They've tried to disco fire. It doesn't work. And the vocals weak. Yes. Bless them, though. In terms of production and the sort of, you know, the playing of the instruments, not bad. On the other side, we see a much more confident and sort of... There's a little bit of glam to it.

Don't you think there's a bit of kind of glam sound to it? They've put in... That stomp. Yes. That kind of glam stomp. They've put that glam stomp in.

That's not in the original song. It's not even in disco. That glam stomp, the kind of sweet sound almost, isn't disco. Yes. So they've kind of

crossed it with a glam stomp with a disco sound to that Proud Mary. So perhaps there's too much going on in their cover version. There's too much going on. They too much going on they're panicking i think but get down brackets to the disco on the other side is much more of a sort of straight up bit of euro disco yeah and it's it's all right actually but you know we have a bit of that as well yeah Thank you. Come on and see the rest

We're gonna have some fun Come on and dance with us We're gonna have some fun Come on and get your eggs We're gonna have some fun Great more editing for me to do this week. Sorry, man. I think we should play him a bit, then. Yeah, no, you're right. It's just I know what I'm...

I'll send you the files, yeah? I know what my soul's thinking as I'm editing this. It's like, Eurovision's coming, and you've got so much to do, and the judges have sent in different types of videos and audio that you thought you wouldn't have to deal with, but now you've got to do a lot more video editing as well. Well, Paul, you've got a few hours to do it till tonight. Yes.

Oh, yes, that's right. Tonight, quote, unquote, tonight. Quote, unquote. Quote, unquote. So that's Cappuccino. Good name for a disco outfit. Splatter or platter? Platter.

A splatter. It's a splatter, yeah. It's amusing and cute, but it doesn't last. Not very good. I'll give a platter to Platter. A splatter. It's a splatter, yeah. It's amusing and cute, but it doesn't last. Not very good. I'll give a platter to the B-side. The disco tune on the other side. I like that.

Shall we crack on with the last song, then? Is that it? Yeah. So let's talk about our last song because there's more to talk about with our last song anyway. All right. We can get into the guts of it.

We've got two songs, don't we? I guess. We've got one artist, two tracks, one single. Two singles, one track, four starters.

How many judges, Paul? 13. How many? 13 different videos and songs. Do we have to tabulate? I'm still waiting to get some of them back. Stress it a bit. Don't worry.

Tonight I'm going to be on the whiteboard, hopefully, if we manage to get one. And I'll be tabulating the scores on the night. Yes, you will. I trust you implicitly. And I just wanted to say to everyone who entered your Envision, thank you again. And your songs will be played on the podcast.

We've got a special little idea coming up. Yes, we're keeping the songs a surprise until the night. So hopefully everyone tunes in to see if they made it. And if they didn't, don't worry. It will be in a future episode because we're going to be on our own kind of top of the pop style showcase of those songs. And if anyone's wondering, will teen yeti return with a song no but not this year keep this page open is that what they say something like that yeah keep the

jaw ajar on that idea no they leave the window open a scratch don't they say watch this space that's what this space yeah no leave the page open on the book leave a bookmark there yeah dog ear the page yeah of. Dog ear that page. Dog ear that page. I like that, Paul. That's ours now. Yes. Why don't you dog ear that?

I'll dog ear that page. A dog ear. A dog egg. Dog egg. A dog egg. Dog egg that page. With bits of hair in it. Nice little grumbly crumbles.

Grumble crumbles. Grumble crumbles. Crumble. Hey, everybody. It's Grumble Crumbles. My. Hoo-hoo. I'm Grumble Crumbles. Grumble, crumbles. Crumble, crumbles. Crumble. Hey, everybody. It's Grumble, crumbles. My. Oh, I'm Grumble, crumbles. Okay.

Grumble, crumbles. Would you like to come this way? Yes, hello. You come up the stairs near to the management office. Oh, yes. Oh, hello. I've got somebody who wants to meet you here. Oh, I'm Grumble, crumbles.

It's Bobby. It's little Bobby. What was he called? I don't know. Bobby Word Counter John. What was he? Bobby Word Counter John. Hello. he called? Bobby Word Counter John. Hello.

Oh, hey. One. Bumbly crumbles. Two, three. Bumbly crumbles. What do you do? Well, I leave bumbly crumbles. That's seven words.

I leave them on the tables. One, two, three, four, five. And what do you do? Do you eat them? I don't eat the crumbles. I've been very hungry. Would you like one of my bumbly crumbles? Could I just sort of

take a break from counting words for a second? I'll just go back under the table actually. That's not a crumble. That's a very big crumbly crumble. It's not a crumble.

You've shot everywhere. I'm bobbing word counts into your wall. I'm more carriedcounter. What are you all about? Caring about shitting. Right. Even when we kill them all off, I willingly bring another one. I don't know where.

Grumbles Crumbles was going somewhere. Had a nice voice. Oh, God, shall I? I've had a good time today. I'm Bumbly Crumbles. Well, Bobby Wordcounter John is totally. That's a little. How would you go bye-bye?

Bye-bye. I promise, Eli, I'll never do him again. Thank you. Sorry. Lady Bump by Penny McLean. Lady Bump. Now, as we discovered, this, what we thought was a reasonably obscure find... And she's not talking about her pregnancy bump.

No, but you might think that. You might think that. She's referring to the dance, the bump. Well, just before we get to that, because I did want to bring that up. First of all, we found out that what we thought was a rare track was actually quite a big hit

in the New York dance charts or whatever. And in her native Austria. And she came from a band that we've covered before in the past called Silver Convention. Silver Convention, who were perhaps one of the biggest Euro disco groups, I'd say. Really? Yeah, they had a hit with Fly Robin Fly, and I've got a reggae version of that. It's very good.

Was that the one they covered when they did Fly Eddie Fly? The fucking Eddie the Eagle Edwards. Fly Robin Fly. That's how it goes. So that was a cover, the Eddie Eagle one. I don't recall the Eddie the Eagle one. There was a song how it goes So that was a cover The Eddie Eagle one I don't recall the Eddie the Eagle one There was a song called

Fly Eddie Fly No it wasn't that cut How did it go? Fly Eddie fly I don't know I don't know But Silver Convention Actually has some stuff I like

And also they did that tune That we may have covered before Rocket to the Moon or something Mission to Venus We're on a mission to Venus Do do The spaceship coming up Is called love, love. Something like that.

No, it's not something like that. You don't remember it. I remember it. I'm trying to fucking sing it for people, and you're fucking ruining it. Anyway, so Penny leaves Silver Convention. I went because she was still in Silver Convention. Oh, you think this is just the thing she did on the side

and became a big hit? Because it was a huge hit. Now, should we play a bit? We haven't played a bit. Let's play a bit of Lady Bump by Penny McLean. Hey, I'm glad you came in here tonight. I'm so into the dance, I can't stand it. And I was counting on dancing with you. It's a Saturday night

And I feel all right So come on let's dance Look at me All I wanna do Is to fall for you So come on let's dance Look at me Tonight

When we hear The music play You might Love me in any way They call me Ladybug Ladybug, it's so nice Ladybug, Ladybug The music makes me high Lady bump Lady bump The stimulus makes me high

They call me lady bump Lady bump Question, what is the bump? Because obviously bump is a genre and she's talking about it No, no, it's a dance Disco dance So you've got the hustle

And the bump Which is where you bump the bumps Oh, is it where you just bump bumps? Yes, I think so So you've got the hustle. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da discos that you they had these dances that everyone did but it wasn't so prescribed that you had to do you see what i mean to me though you get down there's a record on and you think i'll do the hustle to this or i'll do the bump you don't have it don't have to do any one dance based on what i've heard with the songs bump in and this one included they're all kind of mellow tracks they're not like high energy disco they tend to be more kind of wavy what do you know what i mean they sway more than they actually kind of bounce if that makes sense yes yes yeah it does make sense a high energy came in later as a genre i mean the thing is this didn't chart in the uk but it was a hit in australia in austria belgium and on the new york and that's sort of new york disco

chart that gives it a bit of credibility doesn't't it? Because that's the real deal. That's where the disco, that's sort of where the real disco thing was happening. Was New York seen as the disco city? Yes, to a certain extent. They were different sounds, different disco sounds. It was San Francisco. Yes. Which had a very strong disco thing.

And was that, sorry to be from talking so typical. That was gayer. Well, I was going to say, yeah, was it more influenced by the kind of gay audiences and crowds? In San Fran, yes. I mean, disco itself came from the Latin community, the black community, the gay community. Right.

It was all these sort of excluded minorities. And what was like the... There's a lot of debate, but what do people say is the first disco hit? Like the first proper disco? They say it's Rock Your Baby. Rock Your Baby. George McRae, yeah.

And that's on the TK label, which is Casey and the Sunshine Band. And that TK is all down from Miami. So there's a big sort of Latin influence in Miami. And that build, that sound is also a very strong disco sound. Not quite as sort of underground as the New York sound. No. But as a song in itself, the Ladybump one, it is a very soft, gentle hit,

but you can easily see why it went down well with the New York. Look at me! Look at me! It has that sort of vanity, you know, and it's a bit like... I like the beginning when she goes, Hi, I've come to dance and you go have you i want to dance with you oh all right yeah it's a bit like what kind of dance and i want to bump yeah and i was like oh and then we danced oh no she's not a bad singer no

she's got a good set of pipes on her as they say and there is a sort of extended disco see it's early so this one should be on a 12 i don't know why it's not on a 12, because you should have the lady vamps on, it's on the other side. Which is just a dub, or whatever you want to call it. Extended, yeah. Extended instrumental sort of bit. Which is weird, because all you hear is that soft disco beat,

and then every now and then, look at me! It's fucking haunting. It's like, if you heard that in the middle of the night, without the music attached, it would be haunting, right? You're just sitting there in bed, and everyone's like, look at me!

But which would you prefer to dance to? Veronica Unlimited or Lady Bump or Cappuccino's Proud Mary? It literally depends on how pissed I'll be. So if I'm at a proper disco club

where there's loads of deep cuts you get up and dance to Lady Bump, right? Because some would go oh you know it was a big New York hit and you go oh! It might actually, yeah. And then Cappuccino's and you're a little bit pissed and you don it was a big new york it you go oh it might actually yeah

and then cappuccinos and you're a little bit pissed and you don't give a fuck what's on or at the arse end of the night when you're too knackered veronica unlimited but veronica is when you're fucking slaughtered on booze and you dance to any shit and it's like yeah come on mom it's a lifeguard with a megaphone thing and a moustache. Oh, come on. Get rid of the doors, please. He's like that. I love him.

He thinks he's doing Mr. Blue Sky. Come on. He's like that guy on the Yellow Submarine. Come on. Come on. All aboard. Come on. Come on.

Oh, in the land where I was born. Now, that's a novelty tune. There's a song I live to see. And he told me of his life In the air Now you're doing it like he's George Rainbow. You put your hand over your mouth. Because I'm trying to go...

Yeah. I'm trying to get some resonance. Oh, you know what we should talk about before we move on and we finish up? The wizard bump. The wizard bump. We haven't finished on... We haven't finished a penny yet.

But quickly, before we go to... Is Lady Bump for you a platter or a splatter? The catty's going to be here in a couple of minutes. All right, we've got to cover the wizard bump then.

Right, the wizard bump. I would say Lady Bump is a platter. I've got two, yes. But it's a minor platter. I don't hate it. It's got worth, but I don't connect with it.

I don't hate it. I'd say it was a platter as well. Then we have another hit from her. I have two Penny McLean singles you do and notice again picture

very similar their picture these are Euro 7 so they have picture sleeves they have picture discs and she looks very alluring on them

she's all like I'm singing typical disco sort of make up and a sort of big hair silvery dress yeah and she's got very

she's very ginger yeah no well she is ginger and then she's got this other record 1, ginger. Yeah, no, well, she is ginger. And then she's got this other record, 1, 2, 3, 4, Fire. Which was a hit, but I don't like it,

so I want to play the B-side. The B-side is The Wizard Bump. Here's a little bit of it now. Hello, it's Doctor Telly. What do you do? Thank you. It makes me cry Please Help me, wizard Help me, wizard

In the midnight hour Help me, wizard Help me, wizard With your magic power He said Now, it's fine. It's let down by the lack of enthusiasm for The Wizard. It's a strange song because, again,

it's kind of almost... It's almost like a ballad for most of it. It's kind of... She's singing and it's soft and it's like... She needs a wizard. And then the wizard comes on.

He goes... That'll fucking do it. Yeah. What's this fucking wizard? All he needs me is... I'm a wizard. No, can you put some more into it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We've got five more minutes. If you pay for five more minutes, can we just give us one more take? All right. Enthusiasm. Fine. Lots of spunk. No problem.

Come on, baby. I'll do it. I'm a wizard, you know. Three, two... Yeah, that'll do. Get rid of him. Put him in a fucking taxi. I'm the fucking wizard.

Don't need a taxi anyway. I'll make a magic cloud and fly over there. Oh, he's gone. Fucking hell, he was a wizard. Fucking hell. What interests me as well, because you read a bit about the background of Penny McLean. Yeah.

And she's into new age stuff. So there's definitely that influence coming through here. She had an album called Midnight Explosion, didn't she? She did, yeah. I wonder what that refers to. An occult practice. No, I thought it was a cum thing. What, you time it to midnight?

Midnight. New Year's Eve. Like Sting does. For all acquaintance be fucking whole. I wonder... Auld Lang Syne. I wonder... Drip.

I wonder how many people actually sort of do a thing where they try and ejaculate on the chime of 12 midnight. I mean, if anyone, if you have, please comment on whatever platform you listen to this. Have you ever blown your load at midnight? If so, please give us evidence. To me, it seems like she's trying to

involve her interest in New Age and magic into the song. Can you imagine if the wizard was like the big bopper? Blue moon. I saw you standing. I would need you to really sell the bopper because that's what the kids like. Oh, fuck you. I don't need this shit for you.

He's hard to work with. I'm the fucking wizard listen I'm contracted if you don't have a wizard doing a mouth improvisation in a song then you get me and I don't give a shit that's the problem

fuck you fine we're going to have to work with it and don't bother getting me a taxi because I'll get a magic cloud oh he's fucking gone he's fucking gone I love it he just did the same skit twice

oh that's great though well I think the taxi is going to be in a minute I'm getting a message on my phone I'm excited Paul there are some very good entries Biffo and Ash are going to be waiting for us I reckon we need to get there there's a disco feel to some of them

oh we've got it's a great line up of music lots of variety lots of shocks and surprises to come it's. It's a great line-up of music, lots of variety, lots of shocks and surprises to come. It's going to be a great night. You know what? I'm going to be getting hungry during the night. Will there be stuff we can eat? We've all

got bags of snacks, so I'm going to bring some crisps. You've brought those crisps. Biffo said he's found some wacky crisps he wants to bring. I've got those mushroom ones. Biffo's been like, he's going to out-crisp us. What? You won't believe it. It's the craziest snacks in the world. I doubt it.

I doubt it. It's full of fucking shit. So, join us tonight if you're listening to this when it goes out on Friday the 21st. But if you... Anyway, we're heading to our venue. 8 o'clock.

BST on... My brain's gone blank. Come on, Twitch. Twitch.tv forward slash cheap show, etc. Which is E T C. Join us at eight o'clock. It's going to be live and wacky with loads of guests. We've got real lean and Nick Helm,

Ethan Lawrence, Brian wet. Ethan Lawrence. Yeah. From a like a afterlife and a bad education. He's an actor. We've got Ashley story. We've got so many actions is going to be here.

Giving votes. Exit from gold. You look in chain. We've got loads. We've got 13 great. Ashton's is going to be here giving votes. Eggsy from Goldie Looking Chain. We've got loads. We've got 13 great judges and some lovely surprises. Oh God, I'm going to be sick. Stop burping.

I'm excited. Oh, it's here. Right, we've got to go. Right, we've got to go. We're going. Join us at your Envision 2021. Woohoo! And bumble grumble.

No, take... Not in the taxi