Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - 3/18/17 Jeff Fisher Show Hr. 2: NFL Drug Abuse

Episode Date: March 18, 2017

The NFL is being accused of allowing team doctors to over-prescribe painkillers to players and the world is now coming to an end because of it. Chuck in Florida shares weird news from the Sunshine state.Follow Jeffy on Twitter: @JeffyMRALike Jeffy on Facebook: www.facebook.com/JeffFisherRadioFollow Jeffy on Instagram: @jeffymra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And then Mike Slater, Joe Pags is your Saturday lineup here on the Blaze Radio Network. The National Football League. NFL abuse of painkillers and other drugs described in court filings. Now, you see that and you hear that and you say, oh my gosh. But the story continues. The National Football League teams violated federal laws governing prescription drugs, disregarded guidance from the Drug Enforcement Administration on how to store, track, transport, and distribute controlled substances and implied their players with powerful painkillers and anti-inflammatories each season.

This according to a sealed court document contained in a federal lawsuit filed by former players. I have a real problem with some of the former players that are going back to attempt to extort more money from the NFL. Federal law lays out strict guidelines for how teams can handle and dispense prescription drugs. Okay. We'll get back to that in a moment. The sealed court filings, which includes testimony and documents by team and league medical personnel, describes multiple instances in which team and league officials were married. made aware of abuses, record-keeping problems, and even violations of federal law, and were either slow in responding or failed to comply.

The filing, which was prepared by lawyers for the players suing the league, asserts that every doctor disposed so far has testified that they violated one or more federal drug laws and regulations while serving in their capacity as a team doctor. Anthony Yates, a Pittsburgh Steelers team doctor and past president of the NFL Physicians Society, testified in a deposition that a majority of clubs of 2010 had trainers controlling and handling prescription medications and controlled substances when they should not have. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. The horror. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy says, the allegations contained in the court filings are meritless,

and the league and its clubs will continue to vigorously defend these claims. Now, as we go through this, just remember that this is not the NFL. This is up against the NFL. Now, the NFL will definitely put up their fight on this. It's pretty fascinating, though, that the NFL clubs and their medical staffs are all in compliance with the Controlled Substance Act, said McCarthy in an email. What? What? They are? Yes.

The NFL clubs and their medical staffs continue to put the health and safety of our players first, providing all NFL players with the highest quality medical care. Any claim or suggestion to the contrary is simply wrong. And I will say that in my experience, though briefly with the NFL through my oldest son, that is true. World class. from top to be top to bottom you know then when they kick you to the curb it's over

have a nice day good luck god bless but while you're inside the fence no problem as soon as they kick you over the other side of the fence what's your name again I don't know who you are I mean it's it's fascinating some of the allegations

the details and communications were on earth by lawyers representing more than 1800 former professional football players who are suing the league in the U.S. District Court of Northern California claiming they suffer from long-term organ and joint

damage, along with other maladies, as a result of improper and deceptive drug distribution practices by the NFL. Is that why? Is that why? It couldn't be that you were, I don't care what it is, I don't want to feel the pain,

get me on the field so I can get my paycheck wrong with me. it couldn't be that. No. And now you've decided, you know, that probably was kind of dumb. So I could sue somebody. The material was collected by the players' attorneys as part of a discovery process in the case. Of course, the attorneys redacted large portions of the 127-page complaint.

Both parties had agreed to do so under the court-approved protective order, sealing. There was some mistake and technical error, and they've got this information was able to get out. The filing solely reflects. the ex-player's claims against the NFL's 32 teams, the plaintiff's attorney said he would not comment. The court filing reveals that teams dispensed, painkillers and prescription strength anti-inflammatories in numbers far beyond anything previously acknowledged or made public.

In the calendar year of 2012, for example, the average team prescribed nearly 5,77 doses of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and 2,213 doses of controlled medications to its players, according to a March 2013 internal document. Now, on the surface, 5,000 doses of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory, yeah, ibuprofen. Now, those numbers, according to this,

average out to about six to seven pain pills or injections a week per player over the course of a typical NFL season. All right. Now, of course, they're saying, well, wait, wait, wait, wait. They were probably not distributed evenly over the entire roster. And just as unlikely that team log represents a full extent. Wait, it's probably not the entire team and the NFL is lying. So, I mean, that couldn't be right.

But think about that for just a second, right? So you've got 32 NFL teams, 53-man roster on the teams. and you've got, I think, five practice squad players. So the league with 53 players a team, you've got almost 1,700 players, more, you know, little over 1,700 with the practice squad. 20 weeks is a season. So even we say 16 weeks, right?

16 weeks. Seven days a week, 112 days. So if you cut the players, you know, each team has, 53 players, right? So you just do with that. And you've got, what, 5,707 anti-inflammatories. Right, so that's like, I don't know.

I really don't. I'm trying to do the numbers in my head, and I don't know that it certainly doesn't seem. Right, you've got 112 days, 53 players, so 51 anti-inflammatories a day, right, for 112 days? days. So that's less than one a day per player.

The horror and the controlled medication, 213, at 112 days, 19. That's less. Stop it. Stop it. It sounds like an incredible amount of intervention with some pretty risky drugs. Yeah. Some of which in the case. of Vicodin have high addiction potential.

Yes, they do. Arthur Kaplan, director of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University's Medical Center and co-founder of NYU Sports and Society program, it makes you think, are the physicians looking out for the health of the players, or are they just trying to keep them on the field? I would say, both.

That's their jobs. Their job is to keep them as healthy as possible and keep them on the field to do their job. That's your job. Now, I'm well aware the addiction of opioids is over the top. We're all in trouble. We're going to hell for using them. I know.

But they work. I've had knee replacements, knee surgeries, shoulder surgeries. It amazingly helps human beings get through the day. Amazingly. So if you're a human being doing a providing for society, you're going out, you're working, you're raising a family, you're paying your bills, and oh my God, you have to take an opioid to be able to walk to work, I don't think that's a bad thing. I personally do not think that's a bad thing.

I know I'm, you know, there's plenty of people that disagree with me. They're wrong. experts who reviewed the data for the post cautioned that a thorough understanding of the league's use of pain medication is limited without knowing the exact dosages, types of controlled substances, administered in whether all the players on the team were consuming the medications or whether a smaller number accounted for a larger percentage. Well, of course, it's going to be a little bit of a smaller number, right? The players, I don't know, that play.

I don't know if you watch football at all, but it's large humans. hitting other large humans. We enjoy it. We pay money to watch it. They get paid very well to do it. If they're not doing it, they don't get paid. So if they're ingesting things that make them, help them to do it, oh well. Now, I know, and I even, I have that argument with performance enhancing drugs too,

but that's different than what this is. although they're saying that this is darn near performance enhancing because we're overfilling them with pain killers so they don't feel the pain. Yeah. I don't know. When a guy 6.5, 330 pounds is coming at you full steam with a 10-yard run and hits you, it hurts. You can quote me on that. Now, the complaint alleges that NFL teams plagued by prescription drug problems for decades. The league's former drug advisor issued a report in 1990.

1990. I mean, that's another lifetime ago. This is back in 1990. He said some clubs don't seem to know which drugs are controlled substances, and some don't apparently understand the necessity and law in parentheses to keep dispensing laws as an internal audit. Now, this is 1990. A lot of things have changed since 1990. I mean, in 2014, another league document, NFL prescription drug program advisory committee,

the NFL prescription drug program advisory committee, major findings and recommendations email, reported that non-physician administration and or dispensing of medication occurs at many clubs. Federal law, bars, non-licensed team personnel, such as athletic trainers from dispensing medication. I know there's going to be medical professionals out there that say, Jeff, that's the way it should be, but that's just dumb.

The trainers. I know they're not doctors. It's the law. I got it. Federal law bars non-licensed team personnel, such as trainers and dispensing medication, the complaint cites multiple instances in which clubs were warned about this practice. including letters from Brown to the Bengals,

Kansas City Chiefs, Tennessee Titans. In 2010, the DEA crackdown began on the league's practices. After San Diego Chargers player caught in a traffic stop was found to be in possession of 100 doses of Vicodin. One player had 100 doses of Vicodin and the entire NFL is at fault. It's unbelievable. Now, the doctor of the San Diego Chargers,

David Chow left in 2013. They called for his ouster. The DEA scrutinized his practices and the California State Medical Board revoked his license. Then they put him on a five-year probation. And some of this is, you know, Chow is still fighting it and still. So he denied issuing the Vicodian of the player. So, I mean, it's a, he said, she said, but again, I go back to, Okay, so now instead of just one player, one doctor.

In the NFL's history was overgiving players extra prescriptions. The horror. Now, what they're trying to do now is they have set up a way for out-of-town doctors to be at the stadium and prescribe for the teams. I mean, okay. In January 2012, Daniel Cooper, the Dallas Cowboys Team Doctor, wrote his congressman urging a change to the Controlled Substances Act that would accommodate NFL teams. Cooper stated that for decades under current law, team doctors have illegally, yet unknowingly,

transported and administered medications to injured players while covering games away from home. Okay. So they're still, I mean, are they not going to do it? Really? I... Oh, you have to wait eight hours. I know, I know, I know you've been hit like a freight train and you hurt. But we've got to get back home and you're just going to have to be in pain.

Sorry, is the way it is. In November 2010, the Bengals trainer wrote to his counterpart with the Detroit Lions complaining about a new program. The new program, which has started to, hadn't taken place yet. They were just instituting it in 2010. it wasn't going to come into compliance until 2015, called the Visiting Team Medical Liaison Program. That's where they have the physicians from that town take care of it for the away team.

The Bengals trainer wrote to his counterpart of the Detroit Lions complaining about the new program. Until that new program is actually in effect, we'll continue to do as we've done for the past 42 years. I sure would like to know who blew up the system that worked all these years. So, okay, while damning that, you know, like, it's just nobody likes change, right? He's pissed. He's got to change what he's been doing.

He's worked in the NFL for 100,000 years. He's been doing it forever. He's the trainer. He does what he wants. He takes care of the players. Somebody's, you know, moved his cheese. He's pissed. So it took effect until 2050.

The DA again applied pressure. According to the deposition, a Steelers doctor cited in the lawsuit the emperous was a series of DEA raids conducted in October of 2014 to see whether teams were traveling with controlled substances. Are we serious? We're raiding NFL teams because they might have some doses of Vicodin. Amazingly, though, none of them were carrying the controlled substances. Now, it couldn't be that they just don't do it. Or it could be that the lawsuit states the NFL was tipped off by a DA, by a D.A.

DEA employee in advance. Now, you know, the odds that those, they're not carrying anything? Probably pretty long. But because they weren't, I mean, well, they had to have been tipped off, right? Right. Of course. It's going to be fascinating.

I mean, the story goes on and on and on. Former players also alleged in the complaint that they weren't always sure what medicines they were taking and weren't advised of the risks. because team doctors and trainers failed to inform them. You're an NFL player. And I know I've got a break, and we'll get out of here. I'm up against the clock. They still talk about, there's some other fascinating stuff here

about Toridall that they take. But you're an NFL player and you need something for the pain. And the doc says, here take this. Is it up to the doctor to say, the doctor says this will this will deaden the pain but first let me explain all the possible side effects that you could have no I don't think so this is the Jeff Fisher show on the Blaze radio network 2017 is going to be a volatile economic year we may see politicians throughout the world attempting to control central bank policies several renowned financial analysts have warned that political interference in central bank policies

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Call Goldline, 1-800-913-4653. This is the Jeff Fisher Show. There's so much, so much to this NFL drug story. It's really, really, really fascinating. I'll post it on my Twitter account and my Facebook page. But they talk about how much tort all is dispensed along with the Vicodin to get players on the field. And it just is amazing

to me that the players who have wanted to play and got paid and continued to play, and yet now they're pissed because, oh my gosh, I took these pills and I took these shots to play. And I didn't realize that this could do this to me. Play football. That's all I

want to do. Now play me some more money. The Jeff Fisher Show. Only on the Blaze Radio Network. The Jeff Fisher Show returns on the Blaze Radio Network. All right, welcome to it. 888-90333 is the phone number two days ago. Two days ago, our beloved legislators, congressional committee,

They're fine, fine men serving the United States of America has asked the NFL and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration to answer to allegations made in the lawsuit. You will answer the questions. We want to know. Did non-physician trainers at any time administer or dispensed Toradol or any controlled substance to former or current NFL players? In cases in which prescription medications were administered or dispensed,

were NFL players provided with all information regarding the drugs they were given, including dosage amounts, possible side effects, and reasons for the receiving of the drugs. Did the NFL maintain records of all prescription drugs, including any controlled substances, administered or dispensed to each NFL player? If so, whose job was it to collect those records, and are they still in the NFL's possession? What DEA guidance did the NFL receive regarding the storage, transport, and distribution of controlled substances? and has the NFL followed all DEA guidance. Please also provide a list and timeline of subsequent actions taken

by the NFL officials in response to all DEA guidance. That's your government at work. Right there. I love them. God bless them. The world is coming to an end. We care more about the NFL dispensing drugs to its players than we do about women killing babies.

Did I say that out loud? It's okay. It's okay. good with still good that we let women kill babies from their bodies. But an NFL player took an extra dose of Vicodin. The hell! The horror! Come on now!

If we want to bring the NFL down, we'll do it. That's what they want. Bring it down. Bring it down. Because, excuse me, I just got hit really hard. I've got 30 seconds to get back in the game, and my knee really hurts a lot.

Could you explain to me what this particular medication will do and the reactions it could have in 25 years in my body, please, before I take it and get back out on the field? You have 20 seconds. Or are you just going to give me the shot, and I'll get back on the field? I'm guessing give me the shot. Oh, because that's what happened. And now it's down the road, and it's, you know, some of that.

Not only am I having problems, with joints and bones, you know, from playing football. Some of the problems that I had with some of the drugs that I had overused while I was playing is now affecting some of my body or, oh, no, oh, no. Man, if only I would have known, I would have still said yes. It just drives me crazy. So, earlier this week, I am just kind of scrolling through my Facebook timeline. and as interesting as that is,

whew, man, it is. It is interesting, fascinating. I come across a guy that I used to talk to you from time to time when I lived in Tampa, and he questioned why in Tampa, Florida, and inside Tampa City limits is a place called Ibor City, and it's a party place. Heck, when I first moved to Tampa,

it was just a place where he'd go to Hagel for thrift clothes and old bars, and then it turned into a nightclub haven in a party area, and it's still, you know, the original Cuban area of Tampa, Ebor City. But when it first started, you know, how many ever dozens of years ago, decades ago, it was where people came to live, and there's still wild chickens roaming around Ebor City. And his question on the Facebook timeline was that of, where did these chickens come from and why are they still here?

So Chuck in Florida.com who joins us from time to time on the broadcast lives in Tampa Bay and not only does he bring us some strange stories from the state of Florida, I was wondering if you have an answer to the Ebor City chickens. Greetings, Jeffie, from Tampa, Florida, the home of wild chickens running free in Ebor City. Do you have an answer of where they come from?

problem and what they're doing or are you just well funny you should say that I've looked into the matter and it appears that the chicken population is protected in Ibor City so I mean I can't what if they drop an egg can I eat the egg

well they didn't say anything about you know massacring they're young I'm sure you can scramble as many of them as you like but you can't kill the chickens you can't kill the chickens Ebor marches to save wild chickens as a matter of fact they've had residents that think that somehow or another they're an icon, you know, and they do.

They run free everywhere. They tear up the parking lots and all the landscaping that's done by the city. There are a huge menace down there. I had a studio right off one of the made drags there in Ebor, off the 7th Avenue. And that place continually just, I mean, chicken poop everywhere, chicken feathers flying through. and they're all, I mean, in every yard, you could hear roosters crowing up and down all times of the day. And they are. I remember living in one neighborhood in St. Petersburg, they had a couple of guinea hens running around.

Oh, yeah, they're loud, nasty little birds. And mean. Well, they're meaner when you try to get them off your porch. Yeah. I just letting you know that. But chickens have no boundaries. Chickens. I know, but chickens, you think.

Like if I had a bunch of chickens in my yard, I would say that from time and time, hey, didn't you have 20 chickens here? Nope. No. Only had those. What you see is what I've got. I don't know what's happening to them, but they're disappearing. I know residents down there are feeding the chickens,

and some of the shop owners actually have pet chickens that they tend to in their own areas. I don't care what you do in your own shop. You can call whatever you want, okay. That's right. I'm all for it. I'm talking about the chickens, the birds. I don't care what the shop owners are doing. No, the birds are everywhere.

And, you know, I used to keep chickens in Tampa. I used to have a yard full of chickens in the back. Not a good hobby. Just saying there's a lot of work involved, a lot of noise. Your neighbors aren't very fond of you anymore. Plus, chickens, you know, you've got to have a lot of chickens to create eggs. I don't know if you know this. People think you get a chicken and then you're good for eggs.

One chicken ain't drop. a bunch of eggs. You get six chickens. You're going to have three to four eggs every day except for molting season, which is like three months. And yeah, you might as well go to the damn store. They're cheaper and fresher. Maybe it. What? No, really, buy the eggs from the store. I'm saying as much as feed costs and the care and time involved in chickens, unless you live on a farm where you can have 50 of them, forget about it. It's just not, uh, it doesn't equal off. Wow. That's just me. Wow. I don't think that's what they'd tell me on 40 acres and a mule on the podcast that we have here on the Blazorio.

40 acres and a fool, Jeffie, fool. I'm just saying. Oh, never mind. I keep getting that screwed up, fool, mule, same thing. Well, you bring up mules and I'm waiting on my tiny horse. I want one of those miniaturized horses. We'll be talking about that later. I'm definitely getting one of those. Remember the commercial with the guy that had the miniature giraffe as a... That was funny. Yes.

The Russian guy. Everybody wants one of those. Absolutely. If I had a giraffe the size of a small dog, that would be cool. Those things would be dangerous. No, they'd be dangerous. So those things are breeding about 20 of those come in here. You're dead.

Stampede of tiny giraffe. Oh, man. All about crotch level, you know. Yeah, you're dead. So, I mean, do you have any stories for us, Chuck? Or you just be wandering about chickens now. Yeah, sure. We can go into stories.

You have some weird stories from Florida for me from Chuck and Florida. dot com or every week we have weird stories from florida i'm kind of fond of this one panellas county right next to tampa man shot at deputies and killed his mom's fiancee after fight over donuts oh i mean who hasn't come on who hasn't been there right exactly uh apparently geoffrey falls he was taken into custody wednesday deputies said he shot more than 30 rounds at him uh he sent mom off to the store to pick up some donuts apparently she wasn't fast enough because he shot her fiancee whatever happened

he did not wait a minute he sends mom off for donuts right mom is off getting donuts and he gets mad at the at well mom I guess boyfriend just yeah and shoots him and it's over donuts it apparently was over donuts and again

this is a case where the guy has issues and he was off his meds Um, you know, they were familiar with the man and the police shows up. So it was about donuts. Yeah, let's call it about donuts because really the guy doesn't take his medication. Right. And we wonder why there's problems at these places where all these people are on mind-altering drugs prescribed by doctors that know everything they need to know about this guy's brain, apparently. Oh, we're not going to start reading up doctors and prescription. You want to go into dentists?

They can prescribe whatever they want. I can talk to you. about dentists all day long. I know how you love a dentist. Dentists are criminals. There's not a dental school breeds criminals. You know that. Don't get me.

I mean, if you want to open up that door, we'll go down it. What else is? Speaking of opening up doors, here's a woman who almost crashed her car when a snake crawled out of her air conditioning vent. Oh, yeah, I hate that. Only in Florida. Oh, man. That would be nasty.

That would scare you, no question. I remember the first time I ever saw, when I first moved to Florida, we were living, I moved, my first wife and I were living in a house in Pinellas County, actually, in Seminole. And I remember sitting outside the back porch by the pool. And I may have had, I may have been drinking in those days. Might have had a, had a, and doing some other things in those days. Yeah, you know, you just, you know, sitting there partaking in a few substances. and I remember seeing the Florida Black Snake.

You can't kill. You're not supposed to, or you're not supposed to kill them. I mean, they're good snakes. They eat bugs. They don't hurt you. Eat rats. They're fine. Yeah, I mean, they don't hurt you.

They're good for the environment. You bet. But I remember the first time seeing one slither along the side of the house that we were at and we were, you know, partaking in a few beverages and substances. Sure, sure. That bastard is dead. Yeah, I would imagine. I mean, we hunted it down.

It's picking up in snake season. Then I found out you can't. You're not supposed to do that. So really, it's not dead. And I didn't kill it and nothing happened to it. In fact, we put it in fact, we kept it and pet it and it became a pet. Yeah. Yeah, just like this rat's right.

It died of old age just yesterday. And so we lost it. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. But I mean, those things are, poof, man, they shock you. And then after a while, they have their babies. And you got to save them because they get in the pool. and they get in a pool filter and they die. So that's why they have like 18 billion babies

because 17 billion die. Yes. And so there's only a billion left to propagate. Correct. Correct. Which is what we need is. In Florida, they...

Florida, right? Yeah, I mean, in Florida, Black Snakes, I mean, they've sunned themselves in the summer out in the yard and stuff. I mean, they're really cool snakes. But unless you know that... Yeah, the red rat snakes are what crawled out of this lady's vent. And apparently, she was shocked, slammed the car in reverse.

The snake kind of got injured. This is my favorite part of the story. She takes it. to a vet to see if, you know, maybe they could help the snake. And I'm serious lady, honestly. And the vet says, yeah, we just mainly neutered dogs. Sorry, you know, they euthanize the snake. But the vet wasn't really good.

People get in trouble. Right? They try to help. Yeah. Just try to do the good deed after you damn near kill a snake in your car. Right. MF and snakes coming out of my MF and car, you know. Right.

Kind of car is an MF. I don't know. But apparently it's one that, you know, like a movie in the planes and snakes on a plane. This is The Jeff Fisher Show on the Blaze Radio Network. The Jeff Fisher Show on the Blaze Radio Network. If you're just tuning in now on the Blaze Radio Network, you missed a Chuck in Florida.com. I had so much more to talk to Chuck about it. He just went away.

I lost it. Man, we'll try to get him back on the line. So on Twitter that you can follow me on at Jeffie MRA I'm tweeted at That pregnant pig commercial is the best 30 seconds of commercials on the blaze Any pig updates question mark So here's the promo for 40 acres in a mule A fool I know it's a fool

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