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That sounds so good.
I know.
It's like stereo.
I know. Sounds great.
Wow.
We should just stop now.
Did you just stop now?
That was the ringtone. You can get it from the app
and we're good.
Wow, that sounded really good.
All right, so
why am I sounding like a...
I don't know. That's a good question.
Why am I sounding so hollow?
I don't understand what the hello.
Sounds good now.
There you go.
Now it's much better.
Now we can't hear you at all.
That's much better.
That's much, much better.
So one of the things that, you know, every week on the podcast, talking Walking Dead,
we discuss the specific episode and look to the future.
And since season seven just ended last week, I kind of wanted to get together for a special broadcast
and kind of wrap up the, uh,
the season seven and also look back at all the talking walking deads and all the walking dead
programs and kind of get a feel for what the future is going to bring and i think the future
still looks bright for at least a couple more seasons uh especially after this last year with this
last year's season was tremendous but i could i remember um i remember it was actually my wife
sadly said uh you know which which one the first uh no the second one yeah the second one said uh to me uh
that went up on Netflix,
because I didn't watch it in the beginning.
In the beginning, I was like, you know, it was on AMC,
and I figured out it was another zombie show.
I didn't get the feel for it.
So it goes up on Netflix, and my wife says, you know,
you ought to watch that.
And I thought, oh, she's usually pretty good about what I would like.
So I remember going upstairs and I watched the first episode.
I didn't come downstairs for the entire weekend.
I mean, I went through every episode.
That was a total walking dead binge.
And that was hooked.
It was only the first season that was?
I think it was the first two.
I remember.
I think that was about the same with me.
I think the first two seasons.
I mean, it just, it was a binge weekend.
Yeah.
There was no question about that.
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I feel so like grown up
Huh?
This is nice
I know it's a little bit better
Than just that silly old podcast
I know that's
You know that weekly thing we do
That has no time limit
And now we have to follow an actual clock
Can't cuss either
It's radio
I know well you can
You can get in trouble
You just get your stuff
And get out
Oh, I didn't know that.
Now I'm suddenly very, very nervous.
Uh-huh.
Well.
Yep.
So what got you hooked, Mr. Butrell?
I've always been a big zombie fan.
I didn't wait.
Like, I started watching it from the get-go.
So season one, episode one, I started watching.
Wow.
And I didn't even know about, I didn't know it was based off of graphic novels.
But then when I found that out, then I got into some of the graphic novels, I didn't read it.
I mean, you know, there's that whole comic book nerd thing.
I know.
You know, you can't go full nerd.
What's?
Wow.
And I figured comics was going to that, but now I have read.
So I was going to say, so now you've read them all.
I've gone full nerd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I have.
But so, yeah, I started watching it.
But it wasn't your typical zombie flick.
And that's what kept me watching it.
Like, if it was any, your regular, like, I don't know, like, what's the name of that?
Night of the Living Dead?
Yeah, who does those?
What's his name?
Gosh, what's his name?
Bruce Campbell?
No.
I can't remember his name.
But that guy that does all the zombie movies.
It wasn't your typical zombie movie like that.
It wasn't just for the gore, the crazy scene where the guy splits open a zombie.
Although they added some of that.
But it was more of, you started to see that the Walking Dead was not even actually about the walkers.
The Walking Dead were the people.
And so that's kind of when I got hooked.
And the storytelling was just amazing.
Yeah.
That's what most people don't.
People who are not fans of the show don't understand.
It's not a show about zombies.
Yeah.
It's a show about what you would do.
take the zombies out and put any other apocalyptic element in there.
It's about what people do when they're faced with what seems like no hope.
And they've gone to the point where they actually have taken the zombies out of the show now.
It's getting to that point where we don't really know there's zombies around anymore.
It's all about the characters.
The walkers have become second nature.
There's no question about that.
It's like, oh yeah, there's those walkers too.
We have to take care of them.
I mean, they've learned how to hurt them up and use them to your advantage if you can.
But that kind of worries me, though, as far as like, you can only, like, can you, is there, is it possible to find a better bad guy than Negan? Is it possible?
Oh, yeah. I mean, I think so.
So the next piece, I won't spoil that too far, but the next, the next round of bad guys, they're pretty bad.
But I still don't think they've taught Negan. So, like, they can only do that so many times. Like, I don't know. I just, it worries me about the future. I don't know. I, I did. Kirkman's awesome, and he might be able to pull it off.
But they say they've planned for what?
13 seasons.
Yeah, 12 to 13 seasons.
Oh my gosh.
Really?
I believe.
And what are the...
Then AMC will pick up?
They're not...
As long as it...
As long as they continue getting numbers.
And as long as they're advertisers
and there's too many commercials
when you guys watch the show,
they'll keep it on.
That's an excellent point.
So did you start from the beginning?
Yes, I started from the beginning.
Really?
AMC, show one.
Yep.
And it just...
It's the same thing that hooked me.
The zombies and the characters
and just knowing that, where is this going to go?
Like Jason said, it's not something where
it's a typical zombie show. It just took it
a different direction, and the character build was awesome.
And you know, going off of that,
normally my wife would not watch stuff like this.
I've tried to get her into it. She'll actually suffer through maybe
a couple of these, which normally, that's going way beyond
what she normally would. But just in saying
that, I mean, you think about how many people this show
has converted, that normally wouldn't watch this type of show.
Like, tons of people. Like, even the people that watch
This show won't watch some of those other zombie movies out there.
Right.
But that's huge for what they've accomplished here.
But then they have episodes like the first one of this season
that filter out the riffraff.
Because a lot of people.
Yeah, the first one is season seven, and we'll get to that.
I don't want it in spoilers.
For those of you concerned, I know.
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You know, I was actually opposite for myself.
You know, I watched it.
My wife was like the one that said, you know, you probably need to watch this.
Scary how well she knows you.
And then, I know.
And then after, I think, three or four, she was gone.
All right, I haven't know.
And so.
She wasn't a real fan.
I was all alone.
George Romero.
Yes.
Rocky with an eye.
Also, if you guys want to tweet, hashtag talking walking dead.
But Rocky with an eye, at Rocky with an eye, said as George Romero.
So thanks at Rocky with an eye.
I think George Romero just recently died, didn't he?
Oh, no.
So he could be a, he could now be a walkie.
that he could now be a walker.
Now he's,
according to this,
he's 77 years of age and alive and
he's dead.
Doing well.
So I'm just saying it comes as a,
it was Don Rickles that just died.
George Romero.
Don Rickles.
What's the difference?
George Amaro is still alive.
What's the difference?
Did you apologize to George?
Because George was like,
George, sorry about that one time
at the party where I spilled that thing.
It was, that was,
oh, not that apology?
Oh, sorry.
Different apology.
Jeffie, at Steve Brian O-1 wants to know how do I win one of these awesome t-shirts.
Well, we'll figure that out as the evening goes on.
I haven't figured out just exactly what task I'm going to make you do to win a shirt.
But we'll just leave it at that.
There will be a task that you must do to win one of these shirts.
I'm just not giving these away higgly-piggly.
No.
These shirts are worth something.
Yes, we can make money on them.
Talking Walking Dead T-shirts.
shirts. And it looks as though
the blood is real on them too. I'll have you know.
It's not real blood, though. You don't
have to, it's not real blood.
It looks very, but it's not.
Scared me at first.
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we'll come back and we'll continue with our special
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It doesn't get much better than actually viewing.
Well, if your computer spit $20 bills at you while you were watching it, that would be better.
Yes, it would.
But short of that.
Let's go to Chuck.
Chuck calling on our 888-9033-93 line.
Chuck in Florida, how are you, sir?
Greetings, talking walkers.
How is everybody tonight?
Fantastic.
What's up?
I have a note here that you worked on.
The Tiger, is that right?
Well, I didn't work on the Tiger.
Actually, I had some insider info on the set and how that all came together, but I'm pretty
sure there's a hashtag out there.
I'm going to retweet it later from a woman who was very, very concerned about the actor's
safety in working with the tiger.
Apparently, there was rumors that she had found out people had actually died on the set
while they were making that episode.
They let the cat out of the bag.
It was very terrible.
Thank you. Be here a week.
Right.
No, I promise you this woman was deadly sincere from the notes that I read.
However, you know, it could have been one of those fake news stories.
What?
Well, they do have the own.
In all seriousness, I want to give a shout out to all the people on the set that worked in Florida this year.
There was some actual Florida participation in a lot of the episodes, friends and colleagues that I've worked with
and other movie sets that got to be walkers.
And we even had a little walking get, a viewing party.
Jeffie, you were in the wrong place.
At the wrong time.
I'm not ready to hang up.
I told him and told him every time I tweeted out, Jeffie,
you got to get your butt back to Florida so we can make you walker.
That pisses me off.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
That upsets me.
But that's okay.
AMC, that's fine.
Don't worry about it.
AMC is missing out.
You know, they're filming in Mexico.
now for the
what is that second
Yeah the fear
Yeah the fear of walking dead
Is actually filming in Mexico
And you know
I understand they've got some
New stuff coming up this season
That's kind of more brutal
So we'll see
Bruttle good or brutal bad
Because last year was brutal
And it was about the bad side
So I am a little
concerned that
While fear is
A little bit earlier
in the apocalypse world, so there will be more, you know, overweight walkers.
I'd have to think twice about possibly becoming a walker on fear,
because I think there should still be, you know, there's a couple of overweight people still.
Still, what's his name, the King's partner?
Oh, yeah, Jason, right?
Is it Jared, Jeff, what is this guy?
Oh, Jerry.
Jerry.
Jerry.
It pleases him indeed.
Jerry.
Best line of the season
Like a third tier character
So great
Oh Jerry is not a third
Jerry is moving up
He's at least a second tier
At least second now
Yeah I mean even with even with
That even with what line
It pleases him indeed
With the king just continuing to
Jerry where's Jerry
He's always Jerry
Jerry's in the back joking around with somebody
Jerry
The most random stuff like that.
Put the cobbler down.
Sorry, boss.
By the way, guys, I am a proud owner of a
Talking Walking Dead T-shirt.
As soon as I receive it in the mail,
it's been delayed.
What?
I'm assured that I will get my Talking Walking Dead T-shirt
and wear it proudly.
There must have been some weather damage
or something that happened to the shipping.
Hurricane.
Tornado.
Sharknato.
Earthquake.
Shark nato.
Earthquake, something.
All right, thanks, Chuck.
Appreciate it.
Thanks, Chuck.
have a great one.
Love your show.
Andy in Missouri.
Andy, you are on the Blaze Radio Networks
talking Walking Dead. How are you, sir?
Gentlemen, I am excited to be on the phone with y'all.
Thank you. We're excited right back at you.
Big time, big time fans of the show
following it day one.
I have a question because I do not follow
the comic books at all, never read one,
never looked at one.
Did they, was Jesus gay
in the comic books, or was that something
they did to appease the masses?
I think
recently.
According to my expert
in the other room,
he was.
Our head researcher.
Our head researcher
from the graphic novels.
I believe he was.
He was.
Okay.
Yes, he was gay in the comics.
And that's our
researcher right there.
Andy,
no one, I didn't realize
that we were going to let him speak.
Yeah.
And I'll be real with you,
my wife was pretty upset
when she found that out
because I think she has,
I think she's been shipping
with Jesus for a while in the sense of that's our man crush and man, whenever she found that
out, like that was worth in any death that's been on the show.
But it is the apocalypse, basically, so he could flip it any time.
Right.
And I'll be real.
You can't be choosing the apocalypse.
Story for a different time.
I'm glad you all could figure that out for me, though.
That's been killing me.
And God knows I'm not reading all the comic books to figure that out.
I don't want to get caught on that.
Thank you.
Next I'm going to say he's a Democrat.
So, you know, Jason, you were talking about how you then became a geek out and went to the comic books and the graphic novels.
Our head researcher, who I'm joking around about, is my youngest son who's, I got out of how old he is.
He's 27.
Is that really?
Yeah.
You should kick him out of the house, but that's my other kid.
No, he's 46.
All right.
Man, I got to kick this one.
Time is going by faster than you think.
You aren't lying.
So anyway, he's been on me forever to watch The Walking Dead.
And I have said, no.
And so, so then he decided to go behind my back, and he's been, he's read all the comic books now, all the, he's up to date, bypassed television.
So he's like, so what's happening in the television show now?
So what's happening in the television show now?
Because I know what's happened in the comic books, want me to tell you.
Which is surprising since you usually have such utter and complete control.
over your offspring.
Right?
I know.
It amazes me that he is.
So, well, me too, Brad, and I'm hurt.
I can understand that.
I know.
One of the amazing things, actually, about the comics
and what they've been trying to do in the show
is they've been doing, like, specific, like,
call-outs to the comics.
Like, some of the scenes are directly taken
from the comics, which is really cool.
Like the lineups, I think both lineups,
taking directly out of the comic books.
The original one were, oh gosh, now I'm blinking on his name.
good gosh, Maggie's husband.
Glenn.
Glenn, good gosh.
When Glenn got hit,
exactly, with his eye coming out and everything,
exactly taken from the comics.
But there's plenty of characters that are really different.
Yeah, they're different, but sometimes even still,
like, there's a scene in the season finale when they had been shown.
I think that was actually Andrea.
Yes, in the novels, yes.
So, yeah, so it's very specific, like they...
According to my expert, that's correct.
He gives it a thumbs up.
I think there are just such dramatic peaks in the story arc in the comics that they couldn't veer from those.
Like the Glenn eyeball thing.
I mean, that is such an iconic piece or a part of the puzzle from the comics.
You couldn't really veer from that because I think it would have spoiled the flavor.
I think you're absolutely right.
Brad, I agree with you 100%.
You did.
Yes!
You did.
I'm going home now.
Fantastic.
Carl's eye.
Where's my Scooby snack?
Carl's Eye, Sean just brought up on his computer.
That was also taken directly from the comics.
Right.
Oh, you know what they left out, which I'm glad they did.
I think I know what you're going to say.
Rick's hands.
Yes, yes.
So glad they left that out.
Didn't Clark said that was a mistake?
He did, but I think they opted for that, I believe, in the beginning,
because they thought it would be too much of a hassle to shoot around and make it happen with only one hand.
Like the CGI Tiger?
Yeah.
Or Herschel's leg.
Maybe that's what they did.
But was Herschel in the comics?
Did he lose his leg in the comics?
Ah, so that's what they did.
Leg for an arm.
Herschel, had leg for an arm.
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I wasn't fishing, but I'll take that as a compliment.
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And we also can participate.
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talking walking dead department. Chrissy at Chrissy MC 1211 has a question
question who is each of your favorite character and why we were just
talking about that off the year too that's so funny why don't you leave with that
Sean my favorite character for the season is Negan right now I think I'm just
watching his character arc I wrote down just like sign of him killing Daryl I mean
killing Glenn and Abraham, him sitting down with Carl at the dinner table.
Him even talking to Carnus saying that Carl, you know, you're a little psychotic like me,
I like you.
It's just a future serial killer.
Yeah, he's just an interesting character right now.
And I just really like the way direction they're bringing him in.
Yeah.
Overall?
Overall.
Yeah, we've got Negan this season.
Overall.
I think Mishone.
Hmm.
Just the way you introduced.
This is the way they introduce her from the comics and even in the show.
It's because her hair is like yours, isn't it?
Completely not like mine, but I'm just going to...
That's exactly like you.
I guess I'll be the token and that's, yes, yes.
She has great hair like mine.
Except she's wearing a wig.
I knew it. I knew it.
It was really cool how they did bring her in.
No question.
She has a katana.
Like, you cannot.
I mean, it's great.
And the way she bought a character and just the whole walking around with the zombies,
I think when that character was introduced, you're like, holy cow, who is this?
Yeah, look at this, with the slaves and stuff.
Yeah, she was great.
Which I think is part of the reason why she and Rick have no chemistry, actually.
She's two alpha.
She's very, very alpha character.
Rick is a very alpha character.
I just don't think two alphas.
Because if you look at Sasha and Abraham, great chemistry.
Totally great chemistry.
So it's not a black, white.
thing. It is a...
I wasn't going to say black or white thing.
I saw it in your eyes.
You were about to bring it up.
It always comes back.
Black and the white.
Always, always comes back to it.
Why do you hate me?
Sasha's kind of an alpha as well, though.
Well, first of all, most of the people, look.
If you're around your alpha.
Yeah, if you're a survivor.
As you came from Alexandria.
You're some kind of, you are some kind of quasi-alpha, human being.
Do you have survived into the seven.
season. Or you have a really good agent.
Or you have a really good agent. And, you know, like Daryl, for instance, who has a really
good agent because he's not even in the comic books.
A really, really good.
We're going to create a character and then he's going to make it so darn good. You're
not going to be able to get rid of him.
And speaking of that, he's got to be my favorite character.
Besides Rick, because that's just an easy one, but Daryl has been one of the reasons to watch.
And that's probably why he's so safe. I mean, there's really only two untouchables that you know
are not going to die.
that they really cannot mess with.
And that's Carl and that's Rick.
Coral.
Coral cannot be, no, you can't, you can't,
there's only so far you can go with Coral,
and there's only so far you can go with Rick.
But Darrell, he could be killed at any point.
He really could, because he's not supposed to exist,
but they can't, because you can imagine
the millions of people that would be pissed off.
Right.
But he's such an awesome.
His character development from the very beginning
to like this, this like bigoted, you know,
like old boy, you know, good old boy,
to this really like, you know,
deep and thought-out character and also a total bad-a.
I mean, notice how I did that?
I don't know how far I can push this, but...
I was playing it very much.
Bad A's fine.
Sounds French almost, but...
Who's a good little boy, you are?
A good day.
I really don't know who... I really don't know who my favorite character is.
I want to...
Like you say, Rick is easy, but he's ticked me.
They made me so mad at his character this scene.
so frustrated with his character this year this whole season and not only this
year in the prison remember that whole season we're oh yeah we went crazy talking
to talking on the phone oh my right wanted to be a pig farmer oh
garden garden in what am I I forgot about that too holy that's why I'm the
show after if we go back to uh that's actually a pretty good point I can
bring it back to that reminds me but if we go back to the earlier episodes now
We were just looking at some of the earlier episodes and how fast they are.
How fast they went.
Like this season was, what, 16 episodes?
And the first season was what, six or eight?
Six episodes.
Six episodes.
So you felt like the binge on Netflix wasn't that long.
It was like, oh, season one's over?
Season two is 13.
Yeah, see, they started to realize that they had something.
And then from there on, it was 16.
They were averaging around 12 to 13 million viewers per episode.
Yeah.
That's insane.
In today's world, that's great.
Good gosh.
But they were saying, you know, obviously I think some of the last episodes were 10.
Well, and we'll get to the ratings thing coming up later.
You're going to break them down for us?
Well, they did.
I mean, it's pretty amazing what they've been able to do.
We didn't get it down for us next hour.
We didn't get your favorite.
Jeffie?
Yeah, who was your favorite?
I don't know.
I don't know.
everyone that I really
liked is already dead
I'm really disappointed on that
there were some cool characters
that were dead
he liked T-Dog
T-Dog was cool
T-Dog was underdeveloped
Right
Totally underdeveloped
As in he was short
Or
No
He made short
But he was just an
Underdeveloped character
Because he died in season two
Right
Are you seriously
Are you drinking?
Wow.
I'm starting to smell her on his breath.
He was just an undeveloped.
I mean, he never really had a chance to blossom, as it were.
I'm sure he felt that way, too.
As soon as the paycheck stopped coming, yes, I guarantee you.
He thought, God, gone it.
They did only just overdeveloped my character a little bit more.
So are you going with T-Doggs your favorite?
No.
So who is it?
No.
I'll stick.
Wow.
I wish you guys could see Jeffrey's face right now.
I know.
I can't decide.
Good gosh.
I think it's Negan.
Wow.
That's so easy.
I thought you had more depth than that.
Okay, too, Doug.
You happy?
You happy now?
Much better.
All right, thank you.
Much better.
It is a tough one.
Yeah, I'm going to 888-902.
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We've lasted seven seasons, and the podcast has been going, what, four anyway,
four seasons, something like that.
And I just wanted to, you know, have a little fun on a Saturday night.
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And, you know, it's something that would, you know, make Tea Dog happy.
Exactly.
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This is it.
We haven't given away the T-shirt.
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You want to talk it out on the air?
There are multiple people asking about how they can win up by.
Well, I think that if we, something like how far it is from X to Y, the first person that
treats that, you know, first one that we see, anyway, that distance.
I'll tell you what.
Dial 888-90-9-3-3-93.
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Get on hold, and then I'll ask a question.
And we'll go through the phone callers.
Until somebody Googles the right answer.
Until someone Googles the right answer.
Yep.
That's funny.
But I know.
It's okay.
You know, back of the old radio.
There wasn't Google.
You know how long it took to get to the Encyclopedia Britannica on the shelf?
open it up, flip through the pages, find the answer.
And still be on the air.
And still be on the air.
Because the cord only stretched so far.
Right, you had to set the phone down while the host was talking.
Times are a changing.
Big time.
Who is yours, Brett?
You were about to say.
I'm with you, Daryl, because he...
He is, I like Daryl.
He's the quintessential just...
He's the guy you want to be behind in any...
He sure is.
Yeah, he is.
You're in a bar fight?
He's that.
You want Daryl next to you.
He says...
loyal. He knows how to fight. I mean, he's sensitive.
He was raised. You saw where he was raised.
I mean, he was raised by, yeah.
He was raised by the damn drug dealer brothers and drug dad.
And he overcame all of that. And they, and during the, when the apocalypse came, he made
him realize, I am actually worth something.
Mm-hmm. It's pretty good character. Yeah. It's a pretty darn good character. You're right.
So thanks for stealing my thunder before I actually don't.
No, you're right, though. That, Daryl is.
He's no tea dog, but he's close.
I mean, no one is tea dog, except for tea dog.
Let's be clear.
I want to be happy about that.
We're reading tweets.
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Just sent to Chamberlain at JJ Chamberlain says,
let's talk about Jadis and her lie with him after comment
and Michone's face afterwards.
We can talk about Jadis.
I was kind of saving season seven for the last hour.
We get in depth on season seven.
But if you, I mean,
tell you well let's take a break here on the blaze radio network because if i get started on
jadus then it's going to take us down a whole other road that i don't necessarily want to go down
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she's a garbage pale kid you think she smells like oh this is a garbage pale kid you think she smells like
Oh, this is a good one.
Rock with an eye says, my favorite character is Carol.
Rock with an eye.
She's come the farthest from Meek, Beaton Wyatt to Total Bad A.
I completely agree.
Carol is what I'm favorite.
Carol is really good.
Carol's a strong character.
But they did the same thing to Carol that they did with Rick.
Yep, yep.
And I don't understand it.
I just don't.
And they didn't do it.
They haven't done it with Daryl.
They tried a couple of times with his little, you know, go off the beaten path,
burn the house down episodes.
Oh, yeah, with what's your face?
Yeah, Beth.
And they tried that a little.
But it didn't, they didn't go at it any farther.
But they sure went a long way with Carol and Rick going down that crazy, got to get away.
But in defense of that, although Carol did have the abusive husband, Rick spent his whole life trying to keep law and order and be on one side of,
the thin blue line essentially, and
then the whole world
just flips upside down.
So, I don't know, it seems
justified that he would have those
meltdowns.
Rick? Yeah. Well, Rick, I think
Rick would be completely different if he didn't have old
coral. If he didn't have coral,
then I think he would be completely the
Rick that we actually love. Essentially
PTSD, what he had. I mean,
I would think. Yeah, well, I think he's dialing it back
because he doesn't want Rick, basically. He doesn't
want Carl to turn into, you know, Negan.
Oh, too late. Or the governor.
Too late. Right.
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Now Matt is playing nicely on the
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playing both ways matt in oklahoma welcome to the broadcast how are you sir i am doing great how about
yourself very good thanks for playing nicely in the sandbox with the other kids hashtag that music the phone
no better way to spend a Saturday night well that's right that's exactly yeah well so what's your
question sir so the question was is michhown and rick really together in the
comics and not just on the show.
Like you say, I think they've tried to force them two together, but kind of a weird
chemistry.
It is a very weird chemistry, and you are absolutely right, man, about that.
I mean, at least for all of us here, the chemistry has been forced upon us, and it just
doesn't feel good.
Let's go to our researcher, head researcher, and investigator to the comic books and the
graphic novels in the other room.
Michaud and Rick, are they together in the comic books?
They are not.
Mishon and Bebebebe, sorry.
Mishone is with Ezekiel in the comics
and Rick is with Andrea who is still alive in the comics.
Wow.
That's good.
That's because they have the same hair.
So there you go.
That's a strong question.
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Oh my gosh.
Come on, this is an easy one.
That's where they traveled.
Yeah.
They traveled from Atlanta to Washington, D.C.
Does he have to mail it exactly?
And when Matt says he's thinking,
it means he's Googling as quickly as possible to get it.
I'm really thinking about the miles.
The price is right in numbers, too.
Are you typing? Are you able to get to Google?
Throw something out there.
I'm going to go a guesstimate.
I'm not going to estimate. That's not bad, though.
He's within 150.
I say we give it to it.
Hey.
Within 150?
Well, yeah, why not?
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We just wanted to give a little special broadcast to you live on Blaze Radio to wrap up season seven
and just talk a little bit of Walking Dead with you.
Every time we do our podcast, we have people ask if they can call in or if they can participate and when we do it.
So we figured we just, hey, here you go.
You got a special.
You got three hours of it.
None of us had dates tonight and I'm married.
I always have dates tonight.
I mean, I always have a date.
Right.
Yeah.
I wanted to escape my family for a little bit.
Right.
I told them I'm going to miss them.
What's your excuse, Jason?
Yeah, kind of the same.
It's actually the old lady was ready for me to get out of the house.
Did you make her stay home and clean the pool?
Man, don't bring up my nightmare for today.
Oh, my God.
What happened?
I spent the entire day cleaning out the backyard.
So it took, yeah, I'm just about to pass out here.
I'm sunburned.
I'm not feeling good, but this is rejuvenating me by far.
Dude, I just want to say that there are companies.
What did I tell you?
That's what you said.
By the time you add up all of the different chores that you do around the house,
I mean, you're looking at what, like $100 for a pool guy a month
and another $100 or what for a guy that holds a lawn.
Good grief, you make money hand over fist.
If I made your money, I'd already be retired.
Hence why I'd do all this on my own.
All right, so we've been talking some of our favorite characters.
And then we got to talking during the top of the hour.
And just before we left, the last hour, some of the saddest deaths that we can remember.
And there's been so many deaths, when you start going through the episodes and the seasons,
obviously we just ended season seven.
And there were, you know, significant, two really significant deaths at the beginning of this season.
And you think, well, those were really sad.
But throughout the seasons, there's been some people who have died that really hit you hard.
Yeah.
And deaths that you've forgotten about.
And this is another at hashtag Walking Dead at H. Verme.
You actually said this.
In your opinion, what is the saddest death that you've seen on the show?
I think overall we agreed right off the air we kind of agreed which was the saddest but what are some of the ones that that we would have forgotten before we get to the actual saddest one
well going back all the way to the beginning um amy remember andria's sister she was the first one that was really
right you know we felt that about yeah yeah and that was really where we decided or where they found out man you got to uh you got to watch your back
because they were on her.
And that was actually, if you went back and watched that scene,
she turned right there on the ground.
And then Andrea is still there.
It's like, no, you got to kill her.
It was kind of, it was right.
Nobody knew about, right.
Some people are fast turners.
Yeah.
And she knows that?
I wonder what causes that.
And we haven't figured that.
Like when they went to Atlanta and they went to the CDC,
a little, I know I made a turn into a new neighborhood here for a little bit.
We'll bring it back to the saddest desk.
So unusual.
But when we went to this.
When we went to the CDC
And the
You know
The head guy to CDC before that place got destroyed
You know whispered in Rick's ear
It was Bob
And we find out later
I think we did finally find out that
Everybody has it right
That's what he whispered in Rick's ear
From Shane's death as well
Yeah
Shane's death too
Wow that was
I mean he was
That was a tough one
Because he was a pretty strong character
There for a while
Even though you know
Wait wasn't that the first time
we thought we realized that that's when that's when the audience realized it but that's not
like wait that's what bob told him in the in the CDC but that's when the audience
realized like wait he didn't get bitten how did he I thought that was a screw up on the
show at that point I thought so too actually I thought so too a screw up nope just I
just I was it was it was you know so long ago I'd kind of forgotten it yeah yeah
completely yeah when he when he rose up I was like what he didn't get bit by anybody
what's going on here but yeah that's the very first time for me at least
but I noticed that.
I guess I'm going to have to take the chief researcher and director and producer now.
That sounds like breaking news.
I know.
It is breaking news.
I told them I was close.
I'm going to go ahead and just binge a couple of seasons with him and let him actually watch the television.
And he's going crazy over there in the next room.
You know who else we've forgotten?
Axel.
Axel Rose is still alive.
He was never in the show.
Black Sabbath now.
Barely alive.
No, remember Axel?
He was like the good old boy that thought that,
the thought that Carol was a lesbian,
remember at the prison,
and then he's standing there just shooting the breeze with Carol out there,
and boom, gone.
He took the, what was it, did he get a,
sniper bullet from the governor?
Right.
Boom, gone.
That was a fast one, too.
You didn't see that.
Those were those kind of sneak deaths.
They popped up on you.
But the sneak deaths are different than,
What I was talking about is that the fast turners.
Some people wait a little bit.
I don't think we've ever figured out what causes either to be a fast turn or a slow turner.
Or a Tina Turner.
Or a Tina Turner.
We know what causes a Tina Turner.
Ike Turner causes a Tina Turner.
But are you going to continue or you just let it want to throw that one out there.
That's all you're going to get for tonight.
Can we please stay serious?
We're talking about death.
Yes.
So the saddest death overall, though, and I think really it was,
because at the time, it was like a stab in the heart of the story of everyone.
And you realize at that time they had to get away from the farm.
They were still at the farm.
They had gained a little bit more togetherness.
They kind of knew who they were.
kind of you know they lost some people but they gained some people they knew who they were
they were getting they felt like they were getting stronger yet they still had to leave the farm
because it was no good right and then they were out looking for the girl the little girl at the
farm they went everywhere looking for the little girl and hersil at the time believed that
he was one of the first that we knew that was you know hoarding the walkers in the barn and feeding
them thinking that they were going to find some way, some cure.
Yeah, they find some cure and not just be, not just have to kill them or not, you know,
let them wander around aimlessly.
And now what was the girl's name?
Sophia.
Sophia.
And so the barn starts burning.
And the walkers come out like, you know, ants on fire out of the barn.
And there is that little girl.
Yeah.
As a walker.
That was out of that barn.
That was jacked.
And the whole, I mean, you're just like, what?
Yeah.
And because the only person that could have known that she was in the barn had just died, right?
Otisle's helper.
Otis.
Is that not Otis?
Or Bill.
Or Bob?
I really don't remember his name to be honest with him.
It was the man of a million talents, a guy who played guitar and did everything.
Remember that?
He was like amazing.
Why would you kill a guy like Otis?
Exactly.
Come on.
Exactly.
Big Tar, what are you doing?
I mean, you're all the sad deaths.
There's all the sad deaths.
I think Beth's death was pretty sad as well.
That was a death that you kind of expected, though, right?
I mean, I don't think you...
No, the way it set it up, though, not really.
That's that was pretty...
Like, you didn't expect her to just die in an episode.
In the hallway.
Yeah, that was...
Refresh my memory, Beth?
In the hospital?
The little blonde girl.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, that was bad, too.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
And have we ever found out who took her in the Jesus car?
It was the cops.
It was the cops at the hospital.
That was them?
Okay.
I tell you, Herschel really hit me.
Herschel was rough.
Yeah, that was a rough one.
I didn't think they were going to kill Herschel off.
I really didn't.
I thought the governor was going to use him as a, I'd tell you what, that was one of my favorite.
And he's still alive in the comic books, right?
Herschel?
No, Herschel's.
Max, somebody get mute?
Yes, he got to get me, though.
He died differently, but he's dead.
But he's still dead.
He's still dead.
But he got the decapitation.
I mean, that was...
Right.
I mean...
Except it wasn't a clean shot.
Remember that?
It was like, hack one.
See, I'd say...
Do you think that they would do the Herschel death scene in this day and age?
In this day and age of the show?
I don't think they would.
Because we've talked about this during the podcast that I think that they've significantly scaled back some of the violence.
What, to the baseball bat variety?
After that.
Like, after the baseball bat death?
They got so much...
And all that outcry?
Yeah.
for the baseball bat deaths.
Yeah.
That you kind of think that maybe they scaled back some of the violence.
Well, part of it is now because they've scaled back, when they do it again,
it's going to be that much more shocking, which is what they're all about, because that'll be more publicity.
Well, what's his name, the rapist guy?
What was his name?
What did Nagan name him?
Rapist, whatever his name was.
Rapy Davy?
Dave.
Raby Davy.
That death was pretty gruesome, too.
Yes, it was.
And Negan takes the iron to the guy's faces a couple times.
That was pretty bad.
Chunking that one guy in the furnace.
That was fantastic.
Yeah.
The doctor.
I love that because the whole world was waiting for Negan to clock him with the bat with Lucille.
Everybody thought the doc is getting Lucille.
And he tosses them in the fire tremendous.
So we're going to see in season seven now, huh?
Yes.
Well, yeah.
Where you're talking down?
There you.
Hold on.
Let's back up, though.
So calm down.
What about Reg Monroe at Alexandria?
Remember it was Pete.
who just accidentally,
soop, sliced him across the neck?
Remember that?
No.
Right here.
Look at the picture.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll tweet that out.
Use the hashtag, Talking Walking Dead.
Or you can phone us at 888-90333.
But that was, that was unexpected, fast.
No, because at season seven, I'm not going to get back into it.
Sean will give you, get mad at you.
He will.
Milton, remember Milton?
I do remember Milton.
The assistant to the governor.
Yeah.
At Chrissy, MC 1211 is very emphatic on Shane.
Shane's death.
Yeah, and we did talk, we covered it a little bit of Shane, I think off the air,
maybe on the Facebook Live.
But that was, I don't, yeah, you know, I wanted Shane to die.
I was so sick of Shane.
He was just annoying towards the end.
He was a creeper.
He wasn't even supposed to be alive at that point.
He was already dead.
He lasted way longer than he was supposed to.
Way longer.
He should have felt it.
There are some characters that they've done a good job at making you realize you've got to kill them.
Yeah.
I think they lost a touch a little bit on that.
Instead of doing that with characters now, they've gone to, hey, if you're a B minus to a C-plus character,
we're going to highlight you for an episode or two and then we're going to kill you.
Instead of making you want to get rid of the character.
That's what they did with Abraham.
I mean, really, I mean, Abraham was born in one of my favorites.
If it's not Daryl, then it's Abraham.
He was a little bit better than a B-plus, though.
What would you say?
Really? I don't know.
I mean, I consider all of them in a B range.
I mean, there's not too many A's out there.
I mean, there's Rick, Carl, Michone, probably, Andrea, but that kind of bleeds over into
Michone.
Yeah, sure does.
Yeah, I don't know.
Darryl, Carol.
Darryl.
Morgan's character is great.
I was just going to go to Morgan, too.
Morgan's character is great.
And his character has been so good and gone through so many arcs.
He's gone through so many arcs.
I'll tell you what, I was almost, I was so done with him when he was on his fru-frew,
I'm, you know, everybody, everyone deserves to live.
I know.
Oh, my gosh.
After he spent time with the psych doc and the world was wonderful and I can,
Tai Chi foo you with my stick.
Right. That episode,
annoying the hell out of me.
Which one? In the entire episode.
The entire episode with Dr. Ted.
I thought that was a great episode.
That was good.
That was good. I was crazy.
Jason's like character building.
I really like that episode because they were at the...
Jason's kind of shallow as what it is.
You have a soul?
Right.
I cannot believe.
Okay, hit Twitter, everyone.
Tell me if you think that that was the most retarded episode ever.
That was the episode that made me by the Bowstaff.
Right, because it's like when people first watched the movie Rocky, they started running with bricks in their hand after because they thought, hey, I could run with Rick Thu.
And you thought, hey, I can tie Cheecho with mortgage is like the best of them.
I can't.
How's that coming for you?
I've sharpened up one end of the stick.
That's what I thought.
That's a broom, right?
It's not a broom.
It's a Boastaff.
And that is a nice small wood over there.
It's a broom handle from Home Depot.
Do you feel the weight to that?
I mean, that thing
You put a line out of this, John, you can't
And yes, you could
Because that's the beauty
It is a tool
Right
It is a tool, a weapon
It makes you zen inside
Does it?
Yes
Does it make you zen inside, Brad?
I am, I'm so zen
It's the medication
That and the medication
Makes me so zen
Whatever combination it takes
Whatever you need
But that episode
Now we're back to the episode
with a, go to the episode
list and find out the name of that stupid episode
with Morgan and the doc because
I thought that was fascinating.
I really did. The doc was a,
you know, he lived
because he was in between prisons
and the serial killer and then he
got the serial killer and killed him
the guy that he, the guy that killed his family.
Six number four. Episode,
season six, episode four.
Six four. Do I hear six four?
Here's not here.
Six, four.
Here's not here.
Here is not here.
Right, because Morgan went around.
Here is not here, and he was Mr. Clear.
It had the most viewers.
Thank you.
Besides the season finale that season.
Thank you.
America, what the hell is wrong with you?
Everyone else is deeper than you.
You've got to be kidding.
You need to, I don't know what, but you need to start swimming a little bit deeper water.
I remember there was a lot of stuff going on in season six.
And then all of a sudden we have to learn how Morgan became Mr.
Yeah, you had to, well, he came back.
He'd been following them.
They've been leaving teasers of him following them, which was great.
His character arc has been tremendous.
When Rick was with him with his family in the house, remember that?
No wonder your wife had you to leave tonight.
That was great.
No, I agree.
You remember when his wife was out as a walker in the streets and she came up to the house
and tried to open the door and stuff, it made you believe that there was
something inside the walkers that was
still human. Yeah.
And he was hiding with his son.
And then he was there with Rick.
I mean, it was great. And then Rick
found him and Morgan couldn't remember
Rick. Like, dude, that was
great. All right, this is, we'll get back to this.
Here is not here. I've got
a break there telling me, and I keep
forgetting this is not the podcast. This is
Talking Walking Dead on the Blaze Radio Network.
The Blaze Radio Network.
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That is the Blaze Radio Network, and this is a very special broadcast tonight, Talking Walking Dead.
This is Jeff Fisher along with Brad Staggs, Jason Butchrell, and Sean Foster.
We've found something interesting in the last break that our podcast partner, Jason Betrell, is, well, he's not as smart as we thought.
His recap of one of the highest rated episodes in Season 6 of Walking Dead is not what America's off.
Well, you know, apparently all the listeners, well, not all of them, but a lot of them do not agree.
They're on my side.
At Real Owsley.
I'm with Jason Boucho.
They're shallow tool.
So let me get this straight.
Someone who follows you on Twitter.
Matt.
Matt, just called in.
He's getting a, he won this prize, he's getting a, talking walk dead t-shirt.
I totally agree with Jason Butchell.
It was the lamest episode with Morgan and the doctor.
Man, I wish we had another t-shirt to send up, but we just ran out, man.
What a shame.
At JJ Chamberlain.
I know this may not be popular say, but Morgan drives me crazy.
I kill people, I don't kill people, yada, yada.
I love it.
I know.
I'll give you that.
But that's different than what we were talking about.
Morgan's character arc, and then we went to that particular episode, which you badmouthed.
And we thought that that was a great, another character arc and building of Morgan.
And it was a good way to stretch a season an extra episode.
Twitter doth not agree with you.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
you can hashtag talking walking dead.
I'll try to get through this next break,
and we'll come back with a little bit more of talking walking dead.
Thank you so much for coming along for the ride.
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Harold, we'll get to your question on the line.
It's a very good question,
and I'm been fascinating to hear some of the answers.
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We've got Brad Staggs,
Jason Butchell and Sean Foster.
We've been talking some of the special deaths
during the seasons of walking dead.
Sean was laughing at the horse
in the first episode.
That was a good death.
Who brought that up?
Cassie.
That was a good death.
Cassie, E, E, E, E, E, E.
That horse fed a lot of walkers.
Remember, nay means nay.
Garrette's death was pretty good.
I just watched Gareth's death again, the church scene.
I mean, the massacre when they just went insane.
Oh, that was great.
Oh, I wanted to hit him.
I wanted to hit him.
Rick with the machete to the face.
That was violent.
All of them went crazy.
And that's when they were all just, everybody was.
on the side of just looking like, what are they doing right now?
Yeah.
That was pretty, that was wild.
The one that I just reminded everybody of, Denise, on the railroad tracks, when she's talking,
who was she talking?
Oh, come on, the arrow goes through her head, and she starts, she keeps talking.
It was so shocking.
I just went to a church masker, and you tell me about the girl that got an arrow to the eye.
You know, and I was happy to see her go, too.
She needed to go.
First of all, I'm surprised.
If we go back to that episode.
The church massacre.
The church massacre was great.
The signage, the, the picture of Rick on the altar.
Yeah.
And he was, I mean, that was fantastic.
That was a, that was good death.
Yes, it was.
And that was old school Rick, man.
Yes, it was.
So old school.
Old school riff, and you were in the church, and he was on the altar, and he was on,
they were on their knees.
It was great.
It was edgy.
It was good.
But her death, what's her face?
The arrow still talking.
Denise, Cloid. Everybody knows Denise.
Whatever, the lesbian.
She was the first LGBT community.
You know, that's another thing we'll talk about about the Walking Dead also has become, you know, kind of, it's cutting edge.
We've got all, we've got all bases covered.
An inclusive show.
Yeah, it's definitely an inclusive show.
But she got killed out there with the arrow from Dwight.
Dwight.
Yep.
And she shouldn't have been out there.
to begin with.
I am surprised that they let her actually go out
the way they did.
You mean as the doctor?
Yes, she was the doctor.
She had no business being out there.
If you're smart, you don't let your doctor do that.
No business.
She had no business out there scavenging,
and they wanted to take her to the tea leaf store,
whatever it was that had the meds locked up,
the green meds locked up,
which was a good call on her part.
And she was, you know, she made them believe
that she had to go out there,
and she wanted to be a part of it.
And she thought she was, you know, Miss Uppity and she could do it.
She wasn't as agonizing.
I was glad that she died.
Wow.
They had been setting up Abraham as, I assume they had already written it at the end of the day.
We're going to have Abraham die.
Well, Abraham gets it that way in the comic, yes.
Exactly.
He was supposed to die there.
So they were just trying to figure some way, I guess.
Right, to kind of make it right.
Right.
But still have that iconic, you know, shot or whatever scene from the comic book.
Whatever.
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Harold in Oklahoma, dialing on the 888-903-33 number.
Harold, how are you, sir?
I'm doing good.
Maybe that hashtag's trending so good that it's above number one.
You can't even see it.
Oh, I love you.
Harold, you're not calling because you want something, are you?
Oh, no, no.
Go ahead with your question, sir.
All right, well, you know, I just want you to visualize.
You're in this walking dead world.
Yeah, walkers everywhere.
It's some scary stuff.
Yeah.
But what is your weapon of choice in this world?
Good question.
That is a great question.
Obviously, if you can get a machine gun and unlimited bullets.
But that's the problem.
That's the problem.
The bullets.
Okay.
So that's what I'm saying.
So we have to eliminate that because that's the first thing anybody with Brain would say.
Before I let you go, Harold, what would be your weapon of choice?
I think my weapon would be a recurved bow.
I like bows and everything.
I love Donald's Crosby, but I don't understand.
They never really show it.
He's using his hands reload to say.
He doesn't have the reloading stream to do all that.
And who knows how much poundage it is, even an 80 pound.
It's hard to pull up.
I haven't got time to do that.
Well, the funny thing is, the funny thing is, I remember doing some research on crossbows after I saw Daryl's, and the one that he used on the show got, like, crappy reviews in real life because it was like, it broke, it did this, it did that, it didn't have the poundage on it.
It was funny because it was not one of the, like, the top of the line ones.
They take a lot of maintenance.
You've got to keep them oiled and keep them grease and all that stuff.
It's just unrealistic with that thing.
But they look cool.
I bet they sold a lot more of those.
Oh, yeah, they did.
The number of reviews was in the thousands,
and it was like three stars.
How many crossbows did you buy, Brad?
Only three.
Thank you, Harold.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for calling on the Blaze Radio Network,
talking walking dead.
I appreciate it.
And I know you've got the machete.
You bought the crossbow,
and you bought the fishing rod.
It's not a fishing rod.
It's a bow staff, although you could fish with it.
So it's kind of smart.
It's a weapon that you can use to catch food.
I mean, you need a weapon.
You need a machoen weapon, right?
You need a sword.
You got to do that.
The katana would be badass.
I think I would go to route of Jerry.
I'd have an axe on my back and have a handgun and just go with an...
The guns are so loud, though, man.
They just draw so much attention.
But then you have an axe.
He walks around with an axe on his back.
Don't look at me like that.
It's a hatchet.
Don't look at me like Jason looked at me when I told him as he here is here.
Clear Now episode was great.
I think Michone's got it going on with the sword, man.
But you're right, you do have to have some sort of God.
You have to have some kind of one.
You need a secondary weapon.
You can't even know the people at least.
Yes, yes, for the people.
I mean, wow.
Yeah, most importantly for the people.
He has no soul.
Well, you have to, right?
I mean, you've got, you have to.
You're ending up, you're going to have to kill some people because it's going to be either.
Morgan doesn't.
My late, my late.
Yes, he does.
He does now.
Wait, he's going back and forth.
With his fishing pole.
Yeah, he does now.
And he did before.
Do you remember when he had the street all cordoned off?
And he had a little walkers and the sort of.
He had an arsenal.
Remember the arsenal?
He had up in his apartment.
Yeah.
But then he met Dr. Froufrew and then it was.
No, he was going crazy after that, during that and then after that.
But then you're right.
Then walking through the, walking through the woods of Georgia on his way to, on his way to the rock land and painting on rocks,
clear, clear, clear, here
is here. He heard the
sheet buying, and there was
Dr. Froufrew. My load
out would be AR-15,
the katana sword the Michelle has
in a clock 23.
My loadout.
We got serious.
Battlefields
4 starting right now, round 1.
My ready bag, my ready bag,
and my weapon of choice. I've got to top the last
callers. I'll talk about greasing up, like, crossbows
crying out loud.
Was he from Oklahoma?
Forget, Darrell.
I want to be behind Jason now.
Oh, I'm definitely behind Jason.
There's no question about that.
You just heard he has no soul.
Exactly.
Loadout.
He's the guy.
A load out.
Load out.
You guys went soft when you watched season six episode four.
Something happened.
How are you talking about soft?
All of a sudden, you're like, oh, let's not kill the walkers.
I was all about it, but still, I did by the argument.
That is not the truth.
I bought the art of peace.
I have to admit, I did buy the art of peace, the book.
I didn't read it, but I bought it.
Is that what he was carrying arrest?
Yeah, that's his book.
Details.
I'm a sucker.
Mr. Details.
Strikes again.
I know.
You bought in crossbows.
I know, right?
Gosh.
Peace sticks.
Have you bought a talking, have you bought a Talking Walking Dead t-shirt yet at
at jeffy-fifish-E-F-E-R.com?
I'm wearing it, aren't I?
That's not what I asked.
I'm wearing it.
That's not what I have.
But I'm wearing it.
All right, so I'm looking at United States trend on Twitter.
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I'd like to have, I'd like to get that trending.
Yeah, hashtag Talking Walking Dead.
Hashtag Tag Taggib 723 says Flamethrower with unlimited supply.
That would be awesome.
Well, any weapon with an unlimited supply is actually perfect.
Flame throwers is a pretty dang good idea.
I'm really surprised.
You know what I am surprised about, though?
And the governor had kind of an idea at this.
And I'm surprised that Negan doesn't have this is.
gathering more military weapons.
You know,
the governor tried that.
Remember when he wiped out the thing
and he had the tank and stuff?
The governor was moving on some of that stuff.
I'm really surprised that you don't get more of that.
You know, Negan's crowd doesn't break up.
You know it's somewhere.
Where the heck is it?
I mean, there's a military base in the south
in almost every single major town.
Didn't they go by one setup
that was like a sick bay corner
or something that had some of the military weapons
and they just walked by them like there was nothing.
And I thought, why not try to take some of those?
Well, the Carnival in Season 7.
And the Carnival in Season 7, I don't want to go to Stephen 7.
Yeah, Sean.
Sorry.
That's next hour, Sean.
No, I'm just messing with you.
But you're right.
The Carnival did have the military weapons, right?
Details.
Hand grenades.
If you can come up with a case of hand grenades, those would be great.
They're not going to kill the walkers, though.
Yeah, they will blow them.
They'll knock them into bits and pieces.
They still doesn't kill them.
Well, if they're just a bunch of heads and arms laying on the ground,
they can't run after you.
No, they still bite you, though.
Well, what about when the car, when they had the wire?
In a Moni Python.
You try to walk through a field of hands.
The coolest weapon, though, was the wire stretched between the two cars.
That was.
And they just mowed them all in half.
When they cut the wheat field, the wheat field.
Oh, what season was that in?
Oh, that was seven.
Oh, that's final hour.
Next hour.
Okay.
But I wouldn't want to walk through that field of body parts either.
Right.
Because there was still.
Still, yeah.
Talk about ankle bitters.
No kidding.
The legs it tripped you and then they'd bite you.
Actually created a minefield, didn't they?
Yes, they did.
They created a huge minefield.
What happened to the rocket launcher that Daryl took the first group of saviors out with?
Does Negan have that?
No, they'd they take that?
They might have, but that's what they killed all the walkers with in Alexandria, right?
That's what they fired it into the pond and blew them up and the walkers all came into the pond.
When was that?
Season six.
Season six?
And Alexandria.
But did Negan, he stole that, right?
He took the rocket launcher off him?
They took the rocket launcher from Negan, from Negan's crew.
I know, but did he take it back?
Right?
No, no, no, no.
They got the rocket launcher.
Isn't that bridge?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Deerleardham took it from the guy on the bridge.
I think Negan took it.
I think I specifically remember him saying something about a rocket launcher.
Well, without the rockets, it's just a paperweight.
Yeah, it was probably just...
But that's probably one of the things we're going to see in the 100th episode.
The rocket launcher will probably make a comeback.
That's possible, because even Negan may have actual rockets.
Yeah, I think we're going to get really interested, but we'll talk about that next to next hour.
No, because that's 100th episode stuff.
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Rocky with an eye is tearing it up with good questions.
But this question is pretty awesome.
Should the Terminus storyline have been developed more than what went on for the TV show?
Yes, I think.
I say yes to that as well.
That's a very good point because they, this was like almost the entire season was developed to.
Going to Terminus.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And it was like, what the heck is this Terminus place?
It was kind of Chinese food.
Was it three?
Was it three episodes?
Was that it?
Three or four, probably.
Something like that.
It could have been so much better than that.
It just felt, it felt kind of hollow.
It did.
Denise Crosby was a decent character, but they didn't really do much with her.
Oh, that was the first lady at Terminus or whatever?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, because they were basically, they were eating people.
So they were making stew.
That scene when they were going to kill them all,
and they basically had them lined up on that trough or whatever.
Yeah.
That was disturbing.
Yeah.
That was one of the most disturbing scenes, I think, in the entire season.
And then Carol came to save them.
I know, after they'd kicked her out.
after they kicked her, shunner for killing the sick people.
We've got a break.
I know we'll get back to Terminus.
I know we'll get back to Terminus.
And I know you were upset when they had them all lined up at the trough, you know,
to bleed them out so they can eat the meat.
But, you know, it's no Morgan at the docks house, I'll tell you that.
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Kind of discussing the best weapon of choice if you were to be alive during the Walking Dead seasons.
Dude, at Eliza Kelly has the best one I've heard of.
I mean, this takes it.
This is the best one ever.
Sharks with freaking laser beams.
Best weapon ever.
You put the tank on the back of a flatbed truck.
They can shoot the laser through the plexie.
Eliza, you win the internet today.
That's great.
So sad.
Look, with unlimited ammunition, you're good with any kind of gun, right?
Because you've got unlimited.
I mean, that's what they're searching for now, and we're coming up on the third hour,
so we're heading into season seven.
That's what we're fighting for now in season seven is a way to create ammunition so that we do not have to worry about it, right?
Why don't they just open up a bullet factory?
Eugene?
What?
What?
I mean, seems like it makes sense to me.
It sure does.
It makes a lot of sense.
And that's what they were all ready to rock and roll on that.
And then it kind of fell apart.
I, uh, and this, it kind of fell apart because Rick had fallen, fallen away a little bit.
But remember what you.
become lackadaisical.
Remember, Eugene did give Rick those plans.
Rick still has those.
They haven't even touched on that plot line yet.
When Eugene thought that, I don't remember why he did that,
but like that night he thought something bad might happen or whatever.
That was at the end of season six.
He thought that he was going to die in the motorhome.
I'm sorry.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
And so, yeah, he handed the plans to Rick.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he still got the plans.
So Rick knows where the facility is and he knows how to make the bullets.
And actually, I bet.
Okay, sorry.
I won't go with it.
No, I mean, we don't have on the end of this hour, so we could pontificate that a little bit, no problem.
Well, we have just a few seconds left.
I will say that, you know, we touched on a little bit of Walking Dead being all-inclusive.
But my gosh, we've got gay characters, we've got lesbian characters.
Muslim?
We've got a Muslim character, and we have a polygamist.
I mean, what more do we need?
I mean, what more do we need out of life?
That's it.
That's a well-rounded community.
Right.
And we have multicultural couples.
So, I mean, I don't know how you, I don't know how much more inclusive you can become.
It's the perfect show, really.
It is the perfect television show.
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I'm terrible for podcast development for such an endeavor.
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Yes, exactly.
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All right, season seven.
We have been in some heated discussions tonight off air about particular episodes, about particular characters,
And they all led us to season seven, which is where we're at, which ended last week.
Yes.
Gosh, man.
It's season seven, while it went by fast, seemed like a long season.
Now, sitting here now, thinking back on season seven, I'm thinking, that was a long season.
Yeah, but when we were doing the podcast, you guys were all.
I know.
This is going by so slow.
There's nothing happening.
Did I say that?
That was Jason.
It was because the first half of the season they were dragging everything.
He doesn't like character development.
He does not love character development.
That's because he's not deep as a human.
Loadouts.
That's what he cares about is load.
Loadout and details over here.
Character development.
Maybe we could have one more episode where someone goes off and like meditates with a Tibetan monk
and decides they don't want to kill people anymore.
Maybe we have a few more of those freaking episodes and you guys would be happy.
How about that?
Wow.
I'm telling you.
How about it?
The world is getting bigger.
I'll tell you something, Jason.
Okay, this is between you and me right now, just you and me and I love you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
But you need to get with the wife and somebody needs to do your yard work, all right?
Oh.
Because this is throwing you all out of whack, man.
Seriously, this is throwing you all out of whack, man.
Maybe that's what did it.
I don't know, heat stroke or something like that.
Yeah, you need to, I mean, if you need me to call and talk to her, man, I'm happy to.
Look at this.
All right, so season seven, here we go.
Very fascinating.
I know we've had plenty of jokes and just all kinds of horrific statements and how the ratings were.
Brad, you have a rundown of some of the ratings from this year.
We talked about how they kept saying, well, the ratings are down.
And that first episode with Negan batting people in the head and killing them,
it was so violent and horrific that the ratings went down and nobody's watching.
And then we find out that, oh, maybe that's kind of true.
but not really.
Yeah, sort of kind of, and as soon as my,
as the internet comes back up,
here we go.
They did.
I stretched.
I know.
You've got to stretch a little bit more.
Honey, is that you?
Hey, I'm working on it.
Hang on a minute.
Basically, they broke some pretty intense ratings records
this season on the Walking Dead.
Not only on the Walking Dead,
but on the Talking Dead.
Yes.
Their talk show.
Well, Talking Dead is the number one talk show.
Yeah.
But that's kind of a, that's kind of a, well, that's great.
And I appreciate what they do on that show.
And I love at nerdist.
He really is a fascinating character in his own right.
But that is a time slot hit.
Oh, yeah.
That is a time slot hit.
It drops off about by half.
sometimes more.
So if they get a 10 or 11 million watching Walking Dead,
he's happy with three sticking around for talking.
Okay, stop stretching now because I got the internet backup.
Okay.
And it's also just easy money for AMC,
so that show will never go away.
And I will say that they pissed me off the last two shows of Walking Dead
because they wanted their new show to be so good.
and they forced people to watch it.
Oh, yeah.
So they moved Talking Dead to after the new show
so that people had to stick around for the new show.
What was it called?
Into the Badlands.
Yeah, into the Badlands.
Okay, but that's not my point.
Right.
Especially for the season finale.
Sorry, I never said that.
Talking, you're good.
Yes.
Good.
Because talking to should have been.
Horrible show that was.
Darn right it was.
It was a bad call.
Whoever made that call is agonizing.
She should be fired.
Thank you.
Matter of fact,
do you have your internet back up?
I do now. I've got it now. The show, The Walking Dead, just wrapped up its fifth consecutive season as the number one show on television in the key demo of adults 18 to 49, becoming the first drama series in history to do that.
Wow.
So they can talk all about the radio fell off and the radio.
But it's still, it's still kicking butt. It's still making money.
The season finale delivered 15.6 million total viewers based on Neil.
Wilson Live plus three.
And additionally, the Walking Dead, the Talking Dead show,
finished as the number one talk show with season seven averaging 4.9 million viewers.
Talking Dead does not, those shows irritate me.
They really do.
And the only reason I like to watch it.
As much as this one?
Well, this one's awesome.
Hey.
That's kind of a word for the day.
Thank you.
Take back the shallow comments.
Load up, baby.
But we've talked about this before.
There's only so much they can say in those shows.
You know what I mean?
Like, they can't speculate.
Oh, no way.
much they can say.
And then we all...
That's all...
And then we always find out
that they're all like Brits,
and that pisses me off.
It's like when I think someone's a cool.
And then all of a sudden, it's like,
oh, whoa.
It was a major.
Didn't we kick their butt in the Revolutionary War?
And they're still...
They're still trying to invade.
Dude, seriously.
We let the Beatles come over,
and it ruined it after the 60s.
Seriously, guys, AMC,
let's get some American actors in this thing show.
There are actually some American actors.
They are the walkers.
They're the herd.
You don't get to see them.
You don't know who they are.
Those are the Americans.
Yeah.
Michael Cudlitz.
He's American.
There's one.
There's one.
Is Carol?
I think Carol?
I think Carol might be.
Sasha is.
Jeffrey D. Morgan.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Who, by the way, showed up in a couple episodes,
is shameless.
So you know.
Nice.
He's everywhere.
I've been my new hooked show that I, for some,
and wasn't aware of at some point in time.
Until who told you about that one, huh?
Netflix.
Sorry, Brad.
And I was just been hooked on shameless.
So Brad's throwing in this shameless hook on me
because I'm like, I've been jonesing on shameless.
The bottom line is the Walking Dead is still kicking some serious tale,
bringing in money.
It's going to be around for a number of years.
So tell us the record again.
So we remember the record.
Fifth consecutive season as the number one show in the key demo.
Adults 1849.
That is the money demo.
Fifth year in a row.
So they're good for at least another four or five years.
Yep.
I mean, you can just pretty much double that.
They had 21 million on a season premiere.
21 million people watch an episode.
That's insane.
It's going to be around for a while.
That's AMC.
That's cable numbers.
21 million?
I know.
Right.
And in today's, and think of that, even in, you know, when you look back at some of the bigger
shows that had more people watching them, in today's world with so many,
other options.
21 million is huge.
Now there's 150 channels and there's still
nothing on. Right.
You know what I'm saying, Archie?
Thank you, Mr. Springsteen.
At Rocky with an eye on Twitter, brings up.
Stephen 7 was intense and two full of commercials
in the middle.
Straight up, man.
In the middle, they got carried away.
I think they backed off.
I felt like they really heard from the fans.
Now, whether they cared or not.
I mean, that could have been engineered that way.
It was like, what was it?
Some of those, was it the first half of season seven?
they had several of those hour and a half specials,
just kind of out of nowhere.
But it was literally only 10 minutes more of content.
Well, and then the last part of the season seven
for the last two or three episodes, I think,
and maybe not everyone,
but it seemed like every episode went long,
at least a quarter hour, you know, that 10, 12 after.
And that was...
Well, they had to fill more commercials in there.
They needed more money.
It's surprising.
That's what we were talking about.
I know, right.
Sorry, I was reading something here that was more important than when you guys were saying.
What was that?
This is according to Scott Gimple.
Episode 801, the first episode, obviously, of season 8, will be setting up.
It's less about reaching episode 100, which is what it will be.
It's more about setting up the next 100 episodes.
Wow.
You know what?
I don't know that I like that.
Season 13, basically.
And Jason won't like it either because he doesn't like, yeah.
Yeah, that's all that's character development and show development.
He's going to hate it.
He's going to load out.
Robert Kirkman wants to do the show.
He wants it to last for at least 12 seasons.
What does he got?
Grandkids, he needs to send to school or something.
Most likely, yes, he still has to make a little money.
But as long as the thing doesn't jump to shark, which it doesn't, has not shown signs of doing yet.
No, it hasn't, but it's been.
I think so, too.
With the Glenn fake death scenes, like under the...
With the Glenn fake death scene, that pissed me.
I think they got close with the Holmorgan one episode, Dr. Hufu episode.
I think they got close with...
Wait, wait, wait, what?
You were behind that episode.
I love that episode, but I'm just telling you that that particular episode is those are the types of episodes that push shows to the brink.
So I was right.
It was basically what you said...
No, we were talking about whether I enjoyed it.
I loved it.
The ratings for that one, the number of people watching that episode was huge.
And I liked it.
So the audience wants that.
And I like...
No, but they watched it because just before...
that was the glen.
Yes.
And they all wanted.
So they were like, oh, we're going to find something out.
We're going to find out something out.
Those, and that's, I see what you're saying.
That was the jumping the shark point.
You're assuming that.
You're assuming that that's why they're doing.
That's why.
But did, so it would be interesting to see how many, how much of the audience hung on
through the first 10 minutes.
Details.
Because, you know, if that, if that was a, if it was a downward graph.
We'll call your friend at AMC and let's get the breakout.
We'll break it out.
I'll get those numbers for you.
Have him next week.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
And then we had,
let's see, where was I?
Even this season,
with the character,
with each storyline
is playing out one location.
Yes.
Like, that took too much time.
They're starting to force characters
down our throat
instead of letting them grow
and letting the fans go,
oh, we love that character.
Like who?
Like, what's her face,
Preggers that ended up
at the LGBTQ island.
Oh, Tara.
Terra.
Preggers?
I can't take it.
That's her nickname.
I can't take her.
She was, her entire episode was when she had just had a kid.
Yeah.
She's supposed to be there.
It's after the Holocaust.
They can't find food and Preggers is hopping around out there over the way.
They did, they need to run down the beach.
Right.
It was like, oh, no.
Come on.
Stop.
Yeah.
Stop.
That was just.
I mean, it's weird.
That's embarrassing for all of us.
Yeah.
It really was.
Not that I would, and I continue to watch.
How many times did you watch it in slow motion?
He says, okay, good.
I'll be ready.
Well, yeah, and season seven gave us the Daryl in Prison song, right?
Oh, man, come on.
How come we forget.
On easy street.
Yeah, easy street.
Oh, man.
I mean, we all got that hard, right?
Darryl was hanging strong.
I was starting to fold just by listening to it on my TV.
And Eugene liked it.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
Which, by the way, who wants to see Eugene shot.
between the eyes now.
I think...
He's going to die.
He has to die.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Is Eugene still alive?
Is the Eugene character?
Is he still alive in the comic books?
Well, in the comics, yes, he is still alive, but also when Negan captured him, he never
turned on Rick.
He refused to work with Negan in the comics.
Nice.
What the heck?
A twist.
He has to die.
Wow.
Your son has value.
What are you bringing to the table?
He could have went.
He could, after this, after the war, he could have went back to Rick.
He didn't.
He went back with Negan.
He could have came back.
So, do we really believe that he's turned or that he's working something?
I think he's working something.
I, I don't, I, I thought he was, but.
He could, he could stay with Rick.
Why didn't he not stay with Rick after the war?
Like, how did he just end up back?
He's an admitted coward.
There's no real war, though, that happened.
I mean, we're still, it's still.
So, you know, actually, why did they have the whole scene?
where he turned over the ammunition plans to Rick.
Like, what was the point of that?
Like, if they were going to ride it to where he's, you know,
has redemption and comes back to Rick and the gang,
then he would make all the ammunition and all that stuff.
So what was the point of them making an effort of showing,
oh, here's how you do it.
Wait, they're going to kill him.
Did he not?
They're going to kill him or he's going to stay with them.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, he knows that he knows Negan would kill him if he doesn't show him.
And Negan almost killed him anyway, right?
Because Negan knows he was the one that, that poisoned Sasha.
Well, no, I don't think so.
Oh, he was right.
He could, at the end.
He suspects.
He couldn't prove it.
Yeah.
He couldn't prove it.
And Eugene, uh, Eugene sold it on no air in the coffin and she turned inside the coffin.
But Negan, man, he was, he, so you're saying you think he couldn't prove that
Eugene gave her.
If he can prove it, he was gone.
He should put Eugene in the coffin and see if he survives that.
And I thought he was going to do that.
That's a good call because he could have said, well, we should see that.
So you're assuming that.
Negan knows about the pills because one of his wives told him.
No, I'm just saying that Negan knows that Eugene killed Sasha instead of letting Sasha be alive to help against Rick.
Okay.
That's a possibility.
That's absolutely possible.
I mean, he was at the end that he was like, okay, I mean, he let it go then.
Are you guys?
So speaking of our little theories here, are you guys still on the Enid is a spy?
100% still 100% 100% so the Jadus thing didn't it shook me a little bit okay first of all I want
Jadens dead oh I want her with a bullet hole I want to see that bullet hole between those eyes and that haircut
and I want her standing and looking straight at Rick and I want her to just breathe out her last breath
looking at Rick.
I want her dead.
As a matter of fact,
I'll be the one to do it instead of Rick.
You don't want to see her
She lay down with Rick.
Oh, that was one of my favorite scenes
of the entire series.
Perhaps after I will lay with him.
Now, after that scene.
Did you see Rick's face, too?
That was the most awkward thing.
He took two steps back
and looked over his shoulder like a tree.
And then he didn't say they just kept going.
It was so great.
It was very.
Very strange.
All right.
So we have, and after that scene, we had one of my favorite scenes was the scene where Negan
has Rick and Carl down on their knees inside Alexandria.
And he's going, he wants to, he wants to kill someone.
And he's got Rick and Carl down on their knees and off in the background, Michone is
fighting one of the garbage pail people and Rick here's something that makes everybody think that
Michone is dead there she goes you thought that was Michone right there oh I know and he realizes
fantastic wow you just lost somebody important to you right now like just now
That is timing.
You chose this.
That's right.
Actually, we don't know what more I could have done to warn you.
And this isn't a morning.
This is punishment.
Think about it.
I'm going to kill Carl now.
I'm going to make it one nice, hard swing.
Try to do it in one because I like him.
over there.
I just want you to put that in your brain
and roll it around for a minute.
I'm gonna kill Carl
and then
you see you here.
She's gonna take your hands.
Oh, so they're trying to make up
for the hands.
Now, go ahead.
You can do it right in front of me.
Rick.
You can take my hands.
Already.
I'm gonna kill you.
See, that's the whole.
It's a good Rick right there.
I know.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow.
Nothing is going to change that nothing.
Really?
Think about it.
It was a replaying of that first scene.
Yes, it was.
But with a totally different outcome.
Yes, it was.
We missed the Shiva roar right there.
I was wanting for it.
No, no, no, it's coming up.
See, Negan is walking around now, look at him because he's like,
What are you talking about?
Niggins like, damn.
He did say what he said.
I think he rattled him.
I think Rick rattled Negan.
Right there?
Yes.
It kind of shook him.
Yeah.
Because he didn't have a scared.
No one talks to him like that.
No one talks to him like that.
No.
He did not know.
Remember during the season where he would say, don't look with me like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because he went into Rick mode.
I'm not sure what to do.
Oh, here goes.
I go.
Yeah.
That's so great.
I was up in my chair.
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We're still pumped.
I'm still pumped.
I mean, that was the Rick that we love.
And I think you're right.
I think that actually, Negan, it caught him off guard because he had him down on their
knees, and most people are shaking and begging.
And on the other hand, throughout the season from time to time,
when we were just hating Rick because he was such a pus.
Yep.
Every so often he would go back into Rick mode and Negan would say,
don't look at me like that.
Yeah.
Because he knew that it was,
that was the Rick mode.
You know what it reminded me of when they were going to escape,
or when they first got put into Terminus into that box car?
And he had been basically a big wuss up until that point.
And then this series always has these like Rick rebirths
or reawakening.
Right.
And he had this line,
they're going to feel pretty stupid when they find out
they're screwing with the wrong people.
I had that same feeling.
I was like,
that was the end in the box car, right?
Yeah,
that was because when they came back,
that was either the end of a half season
or the end of the season,
because that's when Carol came back
and saved them.
Yep, yeah, yeah.
Right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, all right, we're still into season seven,
and I know we're going to break here at the bottom.
We're going to come back,
but we'll talk a little bit more about Edid the spy
that we still believe on this show as a spy.
We're going to find out exactly who we think the little birdie is,
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We're smack dab in the middle of season seven.
And darn excited to be here.
We've covered a lot of Walking Dead.
It's really made me realize, I'd be honest with you,
tonight has made me realize how much I do really like that stupid show.
I know, right?
And it's been a really good show.
It's been a good run.
Sean was reminding us about that.
When they took the prison over, I mean, those were some darn good episodes, man.
Darn good.
And we're going to have to wait until October of this year for it to return.
Thank you, Mr.
Calendar.
However, for fans of Fear the Walking Dead, season three starts June 4th of this year.
So we're just a couple of months away.
Do we count as fans of Fear the Walking Dead?
I want to be.
I know.
We count as Want to Be fans.
And we do count as a podcast talking fear that we'll continue to do.
So June 5th, look for that.
but we do it
we do that podcast
is more of
just a rip
to tear that show down
and break it apart
just bring it down
and actually it's trying to help them
it's more it's not ripping them down
it's trying to help them
create a show
that's better
we we asked the question
why
why did you do that
it's so sad because they
how can you screw that up
well they did
How do you screw that up?
I mean, that's what everyone wanted to see was, and we talked about this in our podcast,
but like when this happens and it breaks out in a major city, what happens?
And they were right there.
And they blew right past it all.
Right into the sea, quite literally.
And we, you know, we really, I mean, I think it was you, Brad, that pretty much called it,
but it was so expensive to film.
And instead of doing it in another city, they picked L.A.,
and then it was too expensive for them to film what they needed to be filmed.
So they went out on a boat.
Yeah.
This agonautic.
I'm agonizing.
All right.
I'm disappointed on you guys over there.
Why?
Because you guys been talking walking death for the last two and a half hours.
And the only show that I watched, which is fear the walking day, you just completely just overlook it and just throw it.
First of all, we just started talking about it.
You made fun of it.
You made fun of it.
You didn't do anything more than just.
And what's my invite to this other podcast?
Those damn postal workers, man.
You can't try.
You cannot trust a postal worker to save your life.
I've wanted to be Postmaster General for, I can't tell you how many years,
to rejuvenate the postal service.
And that just pushes me over the edge.
Charles Bukowski over there.
Charles Bukowski, thank you, post office.
All right, so season seven, Enid, spy.
We found out, we talked a little bit about when Negan gave his little birdie told me.
what you're up to,
uh,
to the war and to the garbage pale kids,
uh, turning on Rick.
Right.
I want every one of those.
I want Jadis and her two little,
her two little garbage pan buddies.
I want them all dead.
Tamiel.
I think that's going to be the first hit that Rick does with the whole,
with the whole coalition now.
I think you go after you,
he knows where they live.
Why not attack them?
They turn their backs on them.
They're going to go towards them in their first,
when they have everybody.
You know what it's going to piss me off?
in season eight if they've fast forward in time so far and they just say oh we took past that and they
bypassed them we took care of them that would suck because we need some redemble you can't i mean she's
they're building up jadis as a character for the show so i'm not going to go past her well they
could go past it and then have a flashback right and then give us a flashback episode of uh when rick and
mishone are taking a nap under an apple tree out camping well we have a hundred episodes
You can have a flashback of the day that we killed Jadus,
and then we can wake up in a cold sweat,
but we're still together, Michelle and Rick.
I just wrote the episode for it,
but that's the one that's going to be, too.
It's so sad.
I wonder if they'll open up with Alexandria just looking devastated,
you know, like holes in the wall, houses that have been burned down,
right?
Well, they passed that because they already showed all three leaders
of the hilltop, the kingdom,
and Alexandria are talking.
So I think they're going to go path.
Like you already know they're united, so I think they're going to go a little further along
instead of saying, hey, this is the right after the aftermath of that war.
They have to go, there's going to be a little jump ahead.
You can't.
Yeah, I mean, we had, we've got to worry about what's his face, right, the other hilltop
Dingleberry.
Gregory.
Gregory.
We don't know where he went.
He's off running around with his tail between his legs somewhere.
Didn't we assume he went to the sanctuary, though?
No, because he's had two days of traveling.
He said, pack you back for a few days.
I'm pretty sure in the books, the All-Out War kicks off where I think Maggie punches Gregory in the face and takes over for him, I believe.
So I would not be surprised if season 8, maybe in the first couple of episodes, they start with that.
Gregory?
Gregory actually did go to the sanctuary in the story.
And then when he went back, that's when Maggie punched him.
And took over.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
And then I'm not going to spoil anything else for Gregory's storyline.
No, that's fine.
Just tell us what the heck happened.
After All Out War, it takes place about the comics jump two years after All Out War.
And then later Gregory dies from being hanged.
Oh, thanks for telling us that, ruining that for us.
Thanks.
You asked for him.
Thanks a lot.
Now I'm not going to watch the show anymore.
Oh, man.
That's a spoiler alert.
Oh, okay, fine.
So, I mean, there you go.
So we got to worry about him.
We went to the sanctuary.
I doubt he went to the sanctuary, though.
I don't think so.
It just seems like the hilltop is closer than, I mean,
the sanctuary is closer than two days, right?
I mean, unless he's going to hang out and, you know,
hang out and just get some food.
Maybe he's going to stop by the LGBTQ island.
In the ocean side.
They've got to pop back in somewhere.
Right?
There's a lot of them, and they, I mean,
we left it kind of ambiguous.
whether or not they...
Yeah, we didn't.
The youngsters wanted to help.
The youngsters wanted to help.
We don't need a story for that, though.
Just have the ones that want to go, go.
We don't need to see the grandmother again.
I know.
I wish they would have done that.
I thought, I wish they would have just brought them along.
That's where it gets slow.
You don't need to see that.
You see, okay, we left the grandma,
and now we're here with you guys.
You don't need to see that slow episode of,
oh my gosh, do you want to be here?
Right. And that's a good slow episode.
What we can see, though, is perhaps maybe in one of the episodes,
we see grandma as a walker and realize,
up, she's dead.
Well, they're all going to be dead because we took all their guns away anyway.
I know.
You know what?
We left him back.
I actually felt bad about that.
I kind of thought that Rick should leave them some defenses.
Well, now not only do they not have the guns.
I mean, that was really negonish.
The garbage people have all the guns.
It was really neganish.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, Rick does a lot of neginish things.
But does that mean because they're for different reasons that it's okay?
Yes.
Of course, obviously it means it's okay.
But we had analyzed this before in our other podcast.
That whole scenario was done so that nobody had to die.
So, like, remember we were talking about how they were on the beach and they were gathering
up that horde of walkers to come?
Basically, that final showdown, that final scene was all staged.
So they could turn around and they could all defeat the horde together.
Their people and Rick's people all together.
I thought that was pretty dope.
That was brilliant.
Well, and now he's left an entire group of women defenseless in the jungle.
Thank you, Rick.
What a jerk.
I hate him.
I've changed my mind.
So, Jeffrey, when do we find out that Enid is a spy?
I don't know.
You know, everybody thinks, doesn't think that she is now.
They think that they've blown that off.
John's been shaking his head.
Every time I mention Enid is the spy, he shakes his head like,
you know, what are you talking about, fat man?
But remember how sure we were after Negan had that little...
Yes.
Negan had that little talk with Sasha.
And it sounded exactly like the same talk that Enid had with Carl.
Carl.
Exactly the same.
So tell me why you don't think she is.
I just don't think she is anymore after Jadis.
I think her character is just going to be Carl's girlfriend and she might die eventually
and Carl might get more psychotic and he'll become Negan Jr.
But Jadis never, Jadis didn't know as much as Nekin knew about what they were doing at Alexandria
and what was going on.
But all the all Negan really knew is that they got more guns and they were trying to do something
against Negan.
That's all he had, that's all he was going after.
didn't know anything else. What did
Negan didn't reveal saying, hey, I know
anything. He only knew that
they're getting more guns from somewhere because
she got, Jay just got the guns with them
and that they're plotting to do something against Negan.
That's all that storyline is what they
had. They didn't have anything else.
That they told us about.
Yeah. They told us about, but
what, but you guys are assuming that
something else happened. All it's going to take is one little
flashback of Enid meeting with
Negan or whatever. Yeah, just
every time I think about it, the whole
I mean, I give the writers of Walking Dead more credit.
Like, so when they had the lineup, who was at like the midseason finale or whatever.
Right.
And Enid gave that whatever she gave to Maggie and she got sick.
So I was like, when that happens and then when they leave at the exact time.
And that's the time that Neiman has everything all set.
In place.
As if they knew they were going to come at that point in time.
That makes no sense.
Unless they're just always out there at a certain time of day.
day and the off chance that Rick and the game Maggie's going to labor.
Because they've been out driving, I mean, they've driven around those roads before and
they weren't blocked off.
See, too, perfect.
There is a spy.
There's a little birdie.
And I still think it's the person that gave Maggie those tainted, whatever that was.
I do too, Enid.
Brad, do you think that she's a spy?
Yes, I'm still on board with a spy.
Sean, you're outvoted.
She's the spy.
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CJ had a good one.
Can Carl get a legit eye patch in season 8?
Oh, that is a good one.
Thank you.
I like that one very much.
We're just wrapping it up.
Now, season eight, we ended with,
with Michone, badly injured, right?
From the fight, from her fight?
Not alpha on that one.
Yeah, well, that was a tough one.
I know, I don't get that at all.
Not alpha at all.
Jada shot Rick, pushed him off the stand.
But Sasha as a walker,
first time you've ever probably cheered for a walker, right?
Yeah.
When she, on top of Negan, I mean,
Were you cheering for Sasha?
I loved the well fat guy Walker on the farm.
Yeah, but you weren't cheering.
Because that made me think, I got a shot.
I got a shot.
Oh.
You are in love with Sasha is your problem.
And she's going to be on Star Trek.
I was cheering for that Walker that looked like Jeffie in a dress.
What was that three or four episodes ago?
Yeah.
That's another episode that I thought I got a shot.
I thought that was you for a second.
I was like, that's son of a guy.
He didn't tell me.
He didn't tell us.
Don't give up hope.
And then, of course, we had the final goodbye from Maggie,
and we finally laid to rest, Glenn.
Thank God.
And I have it to play,
and I don't know that I can make it through it
because I listened to it as went into the system.
Well, just go ahead and let's play Maggie's farewell,
speech, poem, thoughts.
See if we can make it through.
The decision was made a long time ago.
Before any of us knew each other.
And we were all strangers who would have just passed each other on the street before the world ended.
And now we mean everything to each other.
She's British.
That's the most southern she's gotten.
Yeah.
That's the most of them she's gotten in a while.
Yes, it is.
Y'all?
And she's supposed to be pregnant, but she's thin as a rail.
I know.
I mean, they haven't even pretended to show her pregnant.
No.
Not even a good.
And it was just a pocket watch.
Why didn't they bring Stephen Lund back?
Because...
His rates are probably higher than Abraham.
Thank you.
Plus, they had a tiger.
I know.
Which ate up the budget.
You're in trouble.
You were trapped.
Yeah.
Glenn didn't know you, but he helped you.
Wow.
He put himself in danger for you.
That's not a haiku.
It is.
I went, I went real agent on that one.
That's not a hyacu.
From Atlanta to my dentist's farm.
Touching.
To the prison.
To the year.
Recapping all the seasons.
To the movie.
In that episode.
There's one point in this where I think she's done.
Yeah, like right here, I think.
moment now.
Dear God, it's over and then she goes on again.
I kind of muted this.
I thought it was another hero shot
from like them walking up to the hilltop.
It's just long hero shot.
Oh, here you go.
Thank God it's over.
Thank God we're done.
We're not done.
The music's picking up again.
Here we go.
She got more to say?
Thank you.
No, she's done.
It's over.
She's done.
He was a pretty shot.
Thank God, she's done.
It was a pretty shot.
Thank God it's over.
She's done.
There's no more to say.
Oh, she's back.
Oh, whoa.
That was the decision that changed everything.
Oh, my gosh.
I need a commercial break for this one.
It enabled us to make a lot of money.
It started with both of you.
Oh, geez.
And it just grew.
All of us.
Yeah, it did.
To sacrifice for each other.
Oh, boy.
Roll credits.
You need this, though.
You need this.
Faith to blood.
Oh, gosh, Maggie to shut up.
To leave.
To leave.
How about we were all for us?
To fight for each other.
That's a bad monologue.
I was just following his lead.
Oh, my God.
Jason wrote it.
Is this a lot?
It sounds like Titanic.
Oh, but there it is.
It's finally over?
Oh, my gosh.
Roll the credits.
It's over.
Season seven is finished.
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It was a lot of fun.
Just shut up and give me my paycheck.
Yeah, they've got your check right out by the door.
Oh, good, good.
You just finish up tidying up around here.
The trash needs to be taken out.
Fine, fine.
As long as I get my paycheck.
got your check, no problem. It's right out front.
Listen, if you get outside the doors
and there's not a lady out there with a paycheck,
just stand there
until someone decides to turn around and let you in.
That's where the check will be.
Sean, yours is by the back door.
So when you take the trash out,
stay just outside the back door.
You're not going to close this
broadcast off with a very long
broadcast and a very sweet southern accent.
Like what we just couldn't wait?
out of in the best way.
It probably would be the best bread.
That was Titanic.
Part 2.
Jack.
We'll see you on the podcast.
The Blaze Radio Network,
Talking Walking Dead,
Saturday Night, Dad.
Thank you very much for coming along for the ride.
And, of course, you can always download the podcast.
Always buy a t-shirt.
Absolutely.
Jeffie Fisher.com.
And Jeff Fisher Radio.
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The Blaze Radio Network.
