Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - 7/10/17 - Talking Fear Mid-Season Finale S3-Ep7&8

Episode Date: July 10, 2017

Jeff Fisher, Brad Staggs, Jason Buttrill and Sean Foster recap ‘Fear The Walking Dead’ S6-Ep7&8The Jeff Fisher Show, live Saturdays from 9am to 12pm ET on TheBlaze Radio NetworkTwitter: @JeffyMRAFacebook: Jeff Fisher RadioInstagram: @jeffymra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Blaze Radio Network On Demand. Man, I'll tell you what, listening to the Walking Dead music, the actual Walking Dead music before we start talking about this, makes me feel a little bit better. But welcome to Talking Fear

on the Blaze Radio Network. Jeff Fisher, Jason Butro, Bradshaw, Staggs, John Foster, I don't know what direction I'm supposed to go. He's always last. Well, yeah, he's at the back. I'm the Rosa Parks. Yeah, he's the back. Brad Staggs, Jason Butchrell, Sean.

Sean, come up here and take a seat up front. No, just let him keep the mic back there. See, that's just wrong. Welcome to Talking Fear. All right, so. Why the Sye? These are two good episodes, I thought. One and a half good episode.

Maybe one and a quarter. Maybe one and a quarter. And hopefully we're talking about the last of the first and all. Which was dope. Are you the... Last of the first? Yeah. Yeah.

It was dope. Okay. Because about three quarters of the way through that first episode, I text Brad because I thought that he would... I knew Sean was watching because Sean was playing around on Twitter. I don't know where you were, Jason, what you were doing. If you were putting around... I was watching him not on Twitter.

I saw your stupid tweets. But Brad, I didn't know as much because I wanted to text him and say, I am so bored. I was so bored through that first episode. Really? No, I thought it was dope. I thought the whole thing, really. My response to him was, did they all die yet? This made me realize he wasn't watching until today, so.

Well, I thought the first part, the first half of one, I was like, are they going to show a zombie? Something? We're going to see something? It was like they had the entire time for when, what's that guy's name, Jake or what's his name? Which one? Spoonboy? No, the other one. Troy.

Jake is Alicia's. Okay, yeah. So Jake and Alicia going all the way to the black cat camp. I know. Oh my gosh. And not a single walker? Right. Nothing.

What kind of show? Is this a zombie show or what? Yes. And you know what made me think? You know what also during that whole time? Now, we've talked a little bit about this before, how we're supposed to be a little bit. We're not as far as advanced into the new world. So we have heard, I mean, we don't hear a plane.

We heard one helicopter. that got shot down because that's how they needed to kill what's his face. Which is he's not dead. I mean, we haven't not heard a plane, a train, nothing. Really strange. When they were out walking in the desert like that, I thought maybe a plane or something. No. No, but a pig head freaked him out.

I know. That was like, what's the big deal about that? Exactly. Like the pig head. I thought they were going to like reveal a zombie. I thought they were going to turn the corner and it's going to be like, a zombie fight club going on. Like, oh, this is it.

This is the Native Americans are going down. They're getting busy with... These are Californians that are doing this show. So just, you know, keep that in mind. So, like, most of them are vegan anyway. The thought of butchering an animal is horror. So they were like, screw the zombies. A pig head.

And not just a pig of hog. Oh, it was a weird reveal. Give me a break. It's kind of sad. But I will say that I did enjoy the hatred between, what's his face, the head of the Walker? Jeremiah. Jack.

What's the name of the ranch again? Jeremiah. Otto. What's his name of the ranch again? Broke jaw. Broke jaw. Broke jaw. No, it's not broke jaw.

Yes, it is. Broke jaw ranch. I know. It only sounds stupid. How do you even move forward with anything serious when you name? the ranch broke jaw ranch so I see this article before we get but later in the show one I'll get away from the show for a second because it's just so there's an article called by that they interview talked to showrunner Dave Erickson you know

Dave's been with the show and it talks about Walking Dead showrunner on how season three got so good is the title of the story I'm telling it's a big inside joke it has to be right it has to be right it has It has to be. Would you say that, but before you continue, would you say that season three is better than season two? Absolutely. So the bar is not very high, but. Absolutely.

I'll give you that. You could describe it as it got so good compared to the last season? I'll give you that. Which is still not good. According to showrunner Dave Erickson, look, we're firing on hopefully our firing and will continue to fire on all cylinders for the rest of the season. But I saw this season a lot more clearly than I think I did to be on. honest season two. So I think that's a big part of it as well. And isn't he leaving? He left.

After this season. Yeah. Yeah, he's done after the season. It's doing so well I'm leaving. Yeah, and he talked about how they were all higly-pigley and how they jumped, how they jumped in front on season, which I disagreed with what they had to do for season one. Because it talked about what they, his struggle with season one was where they had to kind of jump up and, and, get, you know, because they were before when Rick, where Rick was, and I thought, no, you didn't. We missed all that. We missed everything. We wanted all that.

Yeah. That was the whole point. We didn't want that catch up. No, you didn't. It's just, the show was called Fear. Like, Erin sat on the couch from me yesterday, and she was like, you know, watching it back and forth with me. And she goes, where on the timeline are we with the walking dead? And I said, I don't know. I think we're close,

because according to the season one was season one. This is Dave Erickson. It was six episodes. We were trying to edge up toward the moment close to where the walking dead's Rick Grimes was going to be coming out of his coma. Okay, well, when Rick comes out of his coma, that's when it's just starting to fall apart, right? It's falling apart at that point. Because they're trying to get to the base to figure out to see if there's, to see if there's any help that it can be there.

So it's already past that point. So there was a lot of story to bite off and we needed to be somewhat ambitious and accelerate. No, you didn't. It's called fear. Like we're supposed to fear to fear the zombies. Like, where is this coming from? Not just accelerate to the point of. They gave us a couple of news reports on TV of guys freaking out and getting shot a thousand times and still coming back to life.

That was it. Yeah. You could have spent multiple seasons, I think, going from point A to Rick waking up. Or even point A to Rick going to the CDC. Like, there's still that gap of them traveling to CDC and walking dead. So why do we get that far? I know. In this show where it's the description that I set you guys.

Oh, yeah, well, the description of the promotion for the show. There's a sign of the apocalypse in Los Angeles where reports of a strange flu and the disappearance of people underscore this gritty drama. Okay, there was no... There's no sign of the apocalypse. There was no report of a strange flu. There was no disappearance. I think we did have some reports of that. Those were those news reports, and there was a couple of radio reports that they gave us that were...

So they threw in a couple. Yes. Because remember they showed... The kids were watching it. You're not going to believe this. and they kept showing the couple of videos. That was it. It just accelerated way too fast.

Yes. Even for the mid-season finale, if it going 50 minutes in without showing a zombie, 50 minutes in. Even walking dead, they'll show you a clip of somebody just killing a zombie just for the heck of it because it's a zombie. Just walking.

That was last night? Yeah. It was the 52nd minute after the commercial break when we got them was like, that's when the whole outbreak happened on the base camp. That's the first time you saw a zombie. But they did have a cool. Another cool killing, another cool death, where the knife came out to the dude's throat.

Oh, yeah, that was cool. That was like, okay, that was good. That was as good as the crow eating the guy's break. But for a fear of the walking dead, though, that shouldn't have gone that far. So continue? That far. Oh, continuing the story of the mysterious outbreak and its ramifications are told through the lens of high school guidance counselor, Madison Clark, and English teacher, Travis Manawa. Not anymore.

He gone. Manawa, Nicaragua. Manawa. Widowed mother Madison. raising two kids single-handedly. All right. I've heard about enough of her too. Although Jason did bring a good point up, the Clarks and Manawas

must reinvent themselves or embrace their darker histories. Which totally would not have made sense until last night, she actually revealed her darker past. Finally, we got something that builds her character a little bit. That was the...

Oh, not physically. What was her darker past? All right. I wasn't sure if it was physically or if it was metaphorically. Metaphorically. Okay. Remember, she said that she had, her father was abusive and a drunk. Oh, yeah.

And she killed her father. You don't know what I carry. Shut up. And that came in, that came in the mid-season finale at the last 10 minutes of the show. Yeah, way too late. Really? So it's funny because my notes are random.

So there's the diner scene right when she brings Ophelia back. And, you know, she walks in with the guns and she's like, I have her hostage. And this is the demands, not believable again. Like, it's just. Eight dudes could have taken her out. She's walking in with a revolver and somebody's head's like, this is it.

And the guy's like, she's a man. She's more man than Otto's people. Like, what? It's not believable. And of a sudden, now you're like, oh, wait, because she killed somebody before. She killed her own dad. She has a past.

From this thing that you showed me, or that you just read. Right. It means they've known this about her since the beginning. Or something. So why would you reveal this in the first season? Or they've said,

hey, let's just say they've got a dark history. Let's say there's something in it back. And just leave it. And they had no idea what I was. Well, you had things you had, even if they, if they didn't think about it from the beginning, you have to think about it now because the character, the way you're pulling her character to grow and to be domineering, you can't do that without having a dark pass. Like, so what are you going to say?

Like, she killed somebody. Oh, she killed her own dad. And that's why she's so protective and she's the mama beer. And I'll do anything for my kids. I'm tired of that, too. Oh. And the back of her, speaking of Ophelia. She's 18.

She's an adult. That's what Otto was like, she's, uh, Jeremiah was like, she's an adult. She's 18. son, he's 19. I felt like I wanted Walker to go, what? You're worried about your 19-year-old son and just shoot her right then.

Did anybody not think that the Ophelia, when Madison runs into Ophelia, it was like, hey Ophelia, what's up? So anyway. Yes. What are you kidding me? Ophelia? It's like, Ophelia.

Yeah. It didn't, it's, my note was, Hi, Ophelia. She's an Indian now in sleeping with the chief. pretty much her back story. And then, of course, the backstory with Jeremiah where it's like, like you said, Jason, like all of a sudden and now you turn Jeremiah

into this racist. Yeah. They went way overboard on that, I thought. Yeah, they sure did. It went from being from survivalists to, like you said, to being all of a sudden I don't like you because you're brown. See, yeah. So that's what I think that they wanted him to be this

uber bad guy, but then they were like, oh, crap, we didn't really write him as a bad guy. Right. I mean, they're just these survivalists. So let's change them from survivalists. Like, this is just an afterthought. Let's change them from just a survival guy. rivalous community to a militia that's racist.

Like, they just transformed into that in one episode. Yeah. I was like, what? I go with that. Yeah. And this whole, and we talked a little bit about this in the previous couple of podcasts, but, you know, because that's what you're listening to, talking fear of the podcast on the Blaze Radio Network with myself, Jeff Fisher,

Jason Buncher, Sean Foster, Bradstacks. But they, where we thought, the, what's the name of the ranch again? Broke jaw. When we thought that this was some sort of organized thing and we look at it and it's like a K-O-A camp. Yeah. Tents.

It doesn't even have the K-O-A cabins. It's just got the tents. I mean, that's pretty bad. And the quietest generator in the history of generators. Right? I still haven't heard it. And Nick cuts his hair with a knife. Nobody's got scissors.

I don't know scissors. No scissors? No scissors, Nick? I mean, obviously people are shaving. Right? I mean, we have people shaving there at camp. What's the name of the ranching? Broke job.

And, I mean, obviously people are shaving. So there's got to be some kind of sharp devices other than a knife to cut your hair. And then Alicia calls him a noble Native American. Oh, God. So we're still being PC? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah.

All the way. It would make sense to yours, Jason, of we don't know what to do with them. So we're just going to make them into a militia where California people writing the show. remember we're just going to make them into a militia that's racist yeah yep yep and all of a sudden and now miranda is all of a sudden it's her battle like i was telling you before like it's all sudden her battle now to i'm going to defend my people like you literally got there three weeks ago miranda yeah maranda they had a conversation and she's she asked her why are you doing this she goes because this is my battle now madison madison madison sorry madison although it's easy to

yeah i was going damn did i miss marina no madison madison so it's just the whole idea of uh I really did fall asleep. Who's Miranda? But the whole, Maddison, it's the whole idea, like, all of a sudden this is her battle all of a sudden. Now you're... Yeah.

Now you're... This is your land, too, from where? From her dark past, we were getting the impression that she had to hurt her father because he drank and beat her. And now she's gonna be the leader of that... I don't have a problem with that backstory.

I think that's fine. No, the backstory's fine. But it should have been revealed a long as time ago. We should have already known what she's been struggling with. Because all that did was let the cat out of the bag two minutes before she went in to see Jeremiah. Yeah. Otherwise, it could have been simmering below the surface the whole time. Yeah.

Like for three seasons. Or even two. And you never know when it's going to pop up. But instead it's like, oh yeah, here we need this plot device. Throw this in there. A couple of things, a few things I did like. I thought the anthrax thing was pretty dope. Yes.

That was cool. Again, another plot line they kind of stole from the 100. But as soon as she rode up on the back of the motorcycle and went, wait a minute. Yeah, something's going on. Something's going on. She's a Trojan horse. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't buy it.

Did you? Yeah. Oh, did you like her backstory as well? Her explanation for where she's been? Where did she say she'd been? I think I slept through that part. She just got, she just was what's found. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, wandering to the desert. Yeah. Remember because we talked to an auto founder. Yeah. Throughout that one line. Right. Saved her, but it was like, oh, but you're brown. I was like, wow.

If he hated brown people so much, why did he give her water? He should have just killed her. Yeah. If he didn't like brown people, he would have gone out. It's just brown. And he would not have given her water. And he didn't have a problem with Nick's girl. No, he took, yeah, he sent her packing.

Remember? Yes, she left and he told Nick that he, it's better to let her go. Remember that in the house when they were having a little. No, no, but I think Nick was the one that brought up the brown thing. He goes, why? Because she's brown and he goes, and Otto goes, no, because something else that ever He revealed something about that. And then he said something to Madison this time

about how I saved your son from going after a brown girl from Mexico or something. Yeah, he did say that this week. And then he also remembered where he was when they were bad mouth in the Indians last week. Yeah. When he was saying his, I forget what the lines were because they were so memorable.

Shooting the floor, though? The skull in the floor? Oh, yeah. Where did that come from? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's just I said,

what the hell is he digging for? And I thought he's got to hit like a box of gold or something. Do we remember when he did that? Yes, he was drunk. That was like two episodes? Yeah,

when he pulled the gun out, he just shot the floor. I didn't even remember that. And Nick was just washing, I'm like, what's wrong with this guy? Yeah, that's right. And then we just got it because there's skulls in here. Yeah, there's the skull of the,

who he's going to say is the Indian, but Walker said no, it's just another way, man. So just so I have the story straight. So the Indians were obviously pissed off that they had the land, but apparently it was deemed legal. And then so the Indians were sending people in to screw with them, right? Like burn their stuff down or kill their cattle or something like that. But the Indians, the part they left out about that whole story is the Indian tribes used to fight with other Indian tribes over land.

So they would conquer different areas too. What's the difference? Well, I don't know. It's just a weird backstory. And it's just, it's shoving you down. It's shoving it down your throat. It was just so, yeah, it was shoved down your throat. It was just so forced all of a sudden to make him see like the Uber bad guy.

Yeah. Wow. You're the same guys that absolutely loved like three episodes ago, the, the subtitled monstrosity? The subtitled monstrosity was great. It started going back to us a backstory and having Zonp. And speaking of the subtitled monstrosity, we go to the two hours. and without one shot of Daniel anywhere. No, Strand has the boat back.

Which he burned, which I thought was kind of cool. That was a great shot of the boat burning in his glasses. In the background, yeah. I literally did fall asleep there then because I don't remember. When he burned the boat and he started out of the glasses. That was a great shot. Yeah, I saw you tweet about that. That was a good shot.

Why did he burn it? Because there's nothing left. There's no point to keep it. It won't run. It's up against the shore. He's already talked to the space station flying over. He's already gotten drunk. It's time to get rid of it.

So that was completely unbelievable. But that's the first time in a Walking Dead series that we've actually got confirmation that's a worldwide thing. Right. I thought the same thing. Because we kind of assumed, but we've never had confirmation.

That's outside of a United States. It's kind of interesting. Yeah, that did add to that. You didn't see that part? Or he was talking to the Russian cosmonaut or whatever. I did fall asleep. Wow. He literally had two scenes on that whole episode.

You fell asleep on that? Yep. He literally had two scenes. And he had the end of sleep. a great scene in the moment of killing those. I saw him kill people. I saw him put the jacket on and take a drink out of the champagne bottle. And then he woke up after the blackout and that's when he heard the guy on the phone.

Apparently when he got drunk, I got sleepy. Sorry. Do you want us to pause the show and let you come and go and watch it? I have a sneaky feeling I didn't miss a lot. Oh, you miss it. I just shot out. It was a pretty shot. Cosmonaut Worldwide Boat Burn, done.

But right after that was the, wasn't that the whole showdown with all? and Jeremiah and Madison. Yeah. So yeah, I saw that. And at the end of that, we have Nick being the badass there again. Yes. You know, last week he was the badass at the horse. And this week he's the ass, he's the badass shooting.

What's his face? What's the name of the ranch again? Broke job. What a weird transformation. Last season he was annoyed. Every season he's annoyed the crap out of me. You know, like never cared about him because he was a, you know, a junkie. He's still a punk, though.

And then he kills people you admire him? No, no, I don't admire him at all. I don't. That's what I'm saying. He's just a weird. But what was it? Yes. Last, but what was it last season?

He became this guy that thought this was spiritual and the walkers of people too, just different. That's why he wanted to walk with them. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, he's joining a militia and he's killing people. He's a punk. You could see his character is like a, he plays a punk character. It's kind of interested watching him walk around every scene. It's like this weird.

I'm just too cool for myself. I'm just going to do whatever. I'm going to walk into a scene and I'm sort of draw the gun. before he finishes to shoot him in the head. That's it. Hey, any show that can use feckless, unveiling, fathom, placate, and parlay in the same two episodes.

Wow. Did nobody else notice that? I did, but I must have fallen asleep, so I didn't write them down. What's a parley? An agreement between two people like a... A parley, it's what you do at the casino. I had to look that one up.

It's when you go to bet. Yes, and I was like, okay, I've heard parlay. I've just never heard anyone use. That's a mean it's Native Americans That's what a pirates used to say when they would Two pirate ships they'd go for a parlay Yeah Discuss peace or whatever

Fully closed Sadly so I think With or without swords But where does this But where does this lead I just thought Those are five weird words That really stood out to me

Sheeds or unsheathed Parley placate fathom of Bailey Infectless All right Yes, yeah, pretty much. There wasn't a lot of sheathing going out of those days, but go on. That was it. I just happened to notice those five words stuck out to me.

I was like, oh, say, somebody drove me crazy. You're right. I will say, now that you brought it, I parley, it drove me crazy because I'm like, okay. Right. Keep saying it. It's kind of like the racism that they run down your throats. It's like, okay.

Someone got there at the story. Stop it. But, and the other thing was the hero shot at the end of, you know, Miranda and the kids on the balcony, you look at it. Madison. Madison. Sorry. I don't know why keep saying.

What's this Miranda thing? I don't know, I don't know what happened. Madison and the hero and the kids. Does your wife know about Miranda? No doubt. Maybe. Oh, now I'm even more interested. Pause the tape for a second.

I want the backstory on this. But where does it leave the show, though? Are we going to get back from the midseason finale and be like, okay, great. They're back on her ranch still. Yeah. She did the deal. She gave them the head. Yes.

They nodded because she's more of a man than any man. man we've ever made before. Don't let her go. Yeah. And now so she gets along with the Indians. Right. Native Americans. So she gets along with,

so now there's, where's the, who's the antagonist now? Well, we got the brothers, right? The brothers are going to be internal strife because the brothers,

the brothers are pissed. Yeah. Because the brothers remember before they killed them, the brothers said, you know, told Madison take a hike or Miranda or whatever you want to call her.

So broke jaw politics and not zombie stuff. Broke jaw politics. And hopefully we get a little bit of we get a little bit of Red Man politics over there at the engine tribe the engine tribe because I like him

Walker's kind of cool he's a good character if they can let that go yeah I see a team up in store in the future probably Ophelia it's still over there and her dad was good to see

Ophelia I know that was kind of a weird thing and you're right it was so weird to have Ophelia come back and be treated like it was like they just saw her yesterday we have to pretend like we don't know each of even though I could just tell what. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't understand that. Did anybody see any other Indian women? No. That's a good point. So where'd they get her nice clothes that fit perfectly, by the way? Nice jeans. And then the TPs in the back were being made by other Indian women. They were in the TPs making dinner.

That's right. We think the food came from. Who's cooking hog had lunch? Hoghead lunch. That is women. Right. Engine women. And notice the gentle Indian bathed her but never like gandered, you know, like ogled her.

Because he's honorable. You know, white dude would have put her in there and then I'll touch her and stuff. In the bathtub. Even if she was all burnt, was by the sun and almost dead. Yeah, because she can't fight back. Wow. Tell me they wouldn't have the white guys doing that. Oh, you know, you know, what's his face would have done it.

Spoon Eye would have done it. Oh, yeah. Spoon I would have been all over. Yes. But no. Not, not what's his name? All right. So I don't know what to make of it.

But where's it going to go? Where? Just back to that again. I guess. Because they killed the interesting one. Well, they've obviously set up politics, the power struggle between Jake and Troy. That's where we're at. And Madison.

And Madison. Or what'd you call her? Meredith. Miranda. And oh, Miranda. So Miranda. So Miranda, Trent, and Bob are going to be back next season. I actually wrote down on my notes Madison versus the kids.

Yeah. Because you had a moment of, you know, like them find out the truth about, you know, who killed. Once her face is pissed. Yeah, she's pissed. The daughter is pissed at her. Because she knew that Spoon Boy killed the family. She thought. That's who she thought.

She found out from the brother. She's like, wait, you knew two. It's just that weird relationship. But then, again, you go. Which puts her with the, with the Otto's one son. With Jake. Yeah, with Jake up against Madison and Spoonboy. And her brother, Nick.

But then you go to that hero shot of them on the balcony. If I don't like you, because I'm finding the truth of you, why are we both looking down and trying? Like, it's just, where you put your story going? If I don't like you, if I just found out that my mom lied to cover up a story, why am I on the balcony looking down like, this is our land now. This is us. Right.

Well, and in fact, if Madison gets. gets along with the Indians now, doesn't it make sense to join forces with the Indians? Yeah. But she's as smart as anybody else in theory, so she should know that there's strength in numbers. Sure does. And there's nothing out there. Right. And instead, she's going to side with a camp of racist wackadoodles.

And she is just not believing. Remember, they're not subtle at all in how they set stuff up and they're foreshadowing. So they actually said there was a line where, gosh, what was it? Somebody, maybe as Ophelia said, yeah, he said there's no fences or boundaries because no one can sneak up on the red men or something like that. And I was like, oh gosh, they're totally said that they're going to get attacked. And then there's going to be refugees and they're going to have to go to the broke jaw or whatever and live peacefully with them or whatever. That's got to be what happens. First part next season.

And was it, Jake said there are things at work here you can't fathom. He said that to Madison. What's at work there? I have no idea. Huh. There are things at work here you can't fathom. It's just, I mean, yeah. What context was that in?

You remember? You remember that? Yes, and that was like, that was around the time when they were telling Madison that, you know, she was, she just got here and you're not part of it. Yeah. So what,

yeah. Are they also going to get the helicopters to work? Because they were, they were repairing it because they had the best mechanics. The best mechanic from the, from the Iraq War. Well, yeah. And the 800 gallons of have gas.

They've got out back. Because the white man just sent the red man to Iraq. Yeah, because gas. There's going to be so much gas available in the desert. Well, they're right there at the gas station, Sean. Don't be stupid. What you got to do is pump. You can fill up a helicopter right there at the unleaded pump.

They're right there, dude. They passed it eight times during the show last night. I fell asleep on that part. Oh. And his little trailer of artifacts. Oh, yeah. That was stupid. Come on.

He's like, oh, not that, not that display. That's paper machet. It's over here in the toolbox. Here's grandpa. What? I got this grandpa in a box. That was so stupid. And that's what they stole.

They stole that to get them to come over. Like, we stole their stuff. Yeah. Oh, it's a skull. It's their ritual. Ow, get them. Come on. But seriously.

Oh, not that one. That's paper mache. I was like, shut up. Stupid white men. Stupid white men paid dollars. to see that one. Grandpa really in toolbox. Who wrote that? Come on.

Jeez. If I was that actor, I would have said, I'm not saying that. Okay. So here's my theory. I'm ad libid. They hired a team of interns to write all of this. That must be what happened. I wouldn't, would not surprise me. And so the team of interns are getting better.

That's why we've gotten a little bit better as we've gone on. You're assuming we've gotten better. Most of it's visual. We have definitely gotten better. It's gotten better, but go back. doesn't make it good and that doesn't make it what we wanted or what we expected. What's gotten better? The writing, the plot, or

the location? The plot. The visuals. The plot's gotten better? In the sense that we're getting a little bit of a story. As much as I hate the story, I hate Miranda being a killer and now she's going to be the she's going to be a leader because she's so fearless. It's so nonslinear. It's crisscrossing. It's going

every bridge. This is the this is the hundred monkeys with a hundred typewriters knocking out Shakespeare. But it's going to What does that mean? It's better. What is the 100 monkeys with the 100 typewriters knocking out of Shakespeare? You never heard that before?

You give 100 monkeys, 100 typewriters, and 100 years, one of them will knock out the worst of Shakespeare. No, they won't. What does this happen? And apparently what will happen? I don't know. Why don't you ask Miranda? You'll find your broke jaw ranch.

I can't take it. All right. So, quick. Quick. Where do we, are we looking forward? When does the second half? I should have this information. I don't even know when we come back.

Who cares? I didn't see a date. On the end of it, they didn't say, we'll be back so and so. I don't know where it's coming back. Right. It's just like we're taking a breather or something.

Yeah, they went saying to ads about preacher, which is probably a lot of them. It's so out of nowhere. I think the reason they're halting it now is because they know Game of Thrones starts next week and they don't want to compete with that. So there's, Game of Thrones will kick their ass.

Oh, big time. Yeah. Like, that's probably, that's a good call, Jason. Must be. That's got to be it. It's just so abrupt and they're doing a midseason finale.

It seems like it just began. And the two hour, the two hour season finale was two one hour episodes. Yeah. Yeah. And they didn't roll in. It wasn't a two hour episode. Yeah. So it was like, oh, game and Thrones.

Right. They realized that after the fact. Oh, crap. Game of Thrones starts next week. That is a tremendous call. Jason much because that's exactly what it is. Well then AMC, I applaud you. It returns September 10th, 9 p.m.

Okay, so it comes back September 10th, and that means dead comes on when the end of October. Yep. So Fear has six to eight more episodes to butt up right up against the real show? Because there's nothing like that. The show that counts. As a lead-in.

Because it doesn't really have a date yet, either for walking. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they certainly do have a hard day for walking. Yeah, it's October. It's October something. I don't remember.

Yeah, it's the end of October. Is it Halloween? Maybe it is. Something around that. Brett, come on, man. I'm killing me. I'm working.

It's, Walking Dead Season 8 begins. September, Monday, September 11th. What? No. Are you? Oh, no, sorry.

Fear the Walking Dead 3B has been confirmed. Miranda. for the UK launch of Monday, September. What's happening? I don't know what's happening, but I have a feeling that Miranda has put her... October 29.

He's trying to internet right now. Okay, October 29. The end of October, like I said. So you get eight episodes. We're done. Eight episodes. We're done. I think I fell asleep again.

We're done here. Thanks for listening. Talking fear. My God, I can't wait for talking dead to come back.