Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Bait and Switch… Guest: Michael Jamin | 2/15/24

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

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really predominantly on social media but I guess in common conversation as well. Skip lagging bed rotting we definitely have talked about that. Range anxiety, keto flu, sound bath, slow fashion,

shacket, stellar, nursery, super fog and those are just to name a few. But I found it interesting that they have a breakdown of what they you know what's new they have 327 new entries they have 173 new definitions but the thing that really shocked me and there's no list of what they are i mean obviously they have uh you know they give you some of the new phrases and new words uh you know like girl dinner uh you know it's a

a noun and often attractively presented collection of snacks that involve little preparation such as small quantities of cold cuts, cheese, fruit, cherry tomatoes, etc. deemed sufficient to constitute a meal for one I guess that's curled dinner.

But anyway, what I found really fascinating in their circle of hey, we've got 327 new entries, we've got 173 new definitions. But they also say that they have 1,228

revised definitions. So if you think you know the meaning of a word, you probably don't because those definitions have been revised. And it's changing before our very eyes. Just incredible. Save those old dictionaries. Welcome!

What are dictionaries? Welcome to Chewing the Fat. While the case that won't go away, nearly four years after Harvey Weinstein was convicted of rape and sent to prison, the New York's highest court appeared torn at oral arguments yesterday about potentially overturning the landmark Me Too era verdict. Weinstein's lawyers argued that the state's court of appeals, they wanted to dismiss the disgraced movie moguls 2020 conviction, arguing that the trial judge trampled his right to a fair trial with pro-prosecution rulings that turned the trial into 1-800 get Harvey.

It was his character that was on trial. It wasn't the evidence that was on trial. Okay. Y-C-771 now, convicted of a criminal sex act for for forcibly performing oral sex on a TV and film production assistant in 2006, and rape in the third degree for an attack on an aspiring actress at 2013. He got 23 years in prison for that, and then he was convicted in Los Angeles of another rape and sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison. The lawyer for the Manhattan District Attorney's Office said, yeah, they were proper

and the convictions to stand. Well, of course. Weinstein wants a new trial, but only for the criminal sexual act charge. They argue the rape charge can't be retried because it involves alleged conduct. Outside the statute of limitations, reversing the verdict would reopen a painful chapter in America's Reckoning with sexual misconduct by powerful figures. Yeah. So we'll see the court is unlikely to rule immediately. Pretty incredible.

I guess Harvey was watching on a live stream from the state prison Mohawk Correctional Facility. Love Mohawk Correctional Facility this time of year. About 100 miles northwest of Albany. look these allegations against him and you know really i mean he claims that all the sexual sexual activity was consensual okay um really incredible he wanted to testify and didn't because the judge said that he would have had to answer questions about more than two dozen alleged acts of misbehavior dating back for decades including fights with movie producers and his brother and I mean that was not part of the case

right his bad behavior had nothing to do with the truth and veracity was all that he was a bad guy okay so we'll see what happens they also I was really interested how I had forgotten that the judge allowed

two or three women to testify about allegations that were part of the case just granting prosecutors there's, you know, hey, you can confront him on it if he testified. Wait, that, those didn't have anything to do with this case. Yeah, well, that's the way it goes.

Now, the judge that oversaw this case now is not a judge any longer. He, his term expired, he was not reappointed, he's no longer a judge. The Court of Appeals agreed last year to take Weinstein's case after an intermediate appeals court

upheld his conviction, although prior to their rulings, the judges on the lower appellate court said, yeah, the judge's conduct during oral arguments, he let prosecutors pile on with incredibly prejudicial testimony from additional witnesses. So they weren't real happy with the judge either. So we'll see what happens. Now, you know, he still will remain in jail if this happens because of the L.A. conviction.

So he's not getting out of jail anytime soon. So any of you that are having, you know, your me, two sweats back coming back up. Be okay. He'll still be in jail. The world in the streets will be safe. Then I see where Russell Simmons is sued for rape too. Remember the former music executive of Def Jam Recordings? He now is being sued again from a woman who claimed that he raped her while she was

employed at Def Jam Records. The woman identified in the lawsuit as Jane Doe alleges that Simmons raped her at apartment after she had come over to get approval on a rough cut of a music video okay so this happened i don't know in the 90s so according to the suit uh she Simmons brought doe into his bedroom to watch the music video at which point he began jumping on the bed while continuing to make sexual advances and asking miss stode to have sex with him when doe declined he allegedly performed a wrestling move climbing on top of her and pinning her arms down on the bed and then proceeded to rape her despite her having told him, hey, get off me and stop.

Of course, she claims that she says that in the lawsuit. Now, this happened back in the 90s, and she then, I guess, left Def Jam. And in the years following, since, you know, prior to this lawsuit, she has experienced debilitating anxiety and has had difficulty handling emotions in a professional setting. So the reason this came back up is because Jane Doe claims she saw Simmons at a yoga class around March of last year, which, you know, it's been a long time, but she was still suffering from debilitating anxiety and had difficulty handling emotions in a professional setting. But she was taking a yoga class.

Anyway, she said she ran into Simmons at the yoga class and inadvertently put her. her mat down next to his. That's how scared she was. And when she asked if it was okay to practice next to him, Simmons replied, of course. What do you think? I'm going to try an F you? So it's not funny.

It's not funny. And that's what shook her up. And that's what she couldn't go any longer. It's been since the 90s and she's suffered that debilitating anxiety and difficulty. handling emotions since then, but now she's got to do something because she set her mat down next to him at a yoga class, and he responded. So this is not, okay, we'll see, we'll see what

happens. I mean, this is not the first woman to come forward about Simmons. So Simmons was accused of sexual assault by four other women, three of whom alleged rape, since at least 20 women have accused the music mogul of sexual impropriety. So is it true? You know, I guess it's possible that it is. But this was filed under the New York Adult Survivors Act, which drives me insane. But it allows for victims who were abused as adults

to sue their alleged abusers without regard for the statute of limitations. But I thought that ended last November. So people are still used. using this act, but it expired. So I don't think it counts. Sorry about it. You should have realized that your debilitating anxiety and difficulty

handling emotions should have been taken care of prior to the end of last year if you were going to use the New York Adult Survivors Act. If you weren't and you really just thought it was horrible and wanted to file a lawsuit against them, you probably should have done it earlier.

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and it was just him recording himself over on his phone. And I think a car might have been the back of a boat, might have been the back of an Uber. I don't know. I don't know where he was, but, you know, it's a fascinating, fascinating commercial. Okay? He spent all the money on the commercial spot.

He did. That's it. That's it. Okay. So, all right, so we got the commercial, and, you know, that's the Super Bowl commercial. And just go to, you know, Yeezy.com, which he, you know, did put on the screen. And I know that he's got his titanium teeth, which is being reported that he spent like $850,000. I think we, I remember talking about that.

I feel like originally it was $750,000. And now we're saying $850,000. Okay. So how much was it for his titanium? Dental Implant. Okay. And so I know he had that. But I noticed in this commercial that he's got some thing happening with his lip.

It's this protruding thing in the middle of his top lip. And I'm not sure what it was. Well, come to find out I missed the argument about the lip bubble, the lip nipple, the lip nip, whatever it is, when he posted a video talking about his wife people were mad that he was posting showing his wife I guess they were married back in December

I called her his girlfriend earlier I guess they're married now and he had posted a video walking through an airport pissed that people were bashing him now I remember this story but I don't remember the video so I must have only read the story

and looked at the headline about yay and I wasn't concerned about the video. Had I seen the video, I would have asked the very same question about the thing on his lip. I appreciate him sticking up for his wife and taking pictures of his wife and he loves her

and he loves the way how hot she is and they've been seen having sex on boats in Europe and stuff. So he's pissed at people are saying, hey, how come you keep showing your wife with hardly no clothes on? I just want to tell everybody I posted my wife three times on purpose. And he shows her. Of course, she's wearing like a one suit, a onesie.

So what I'm saying is, looking good. I delivered the album. And people still in my comments tell now, why are you posting your wife? Because she makes me happy. That's why y'all happy with the music, because I'm happy. You understand? So don't never say nothing negative. Yeah.

I don't like my page and don't like what I'm posting. Go f*** yourself. Seriously. Leave me, lead a king, the fuck alone. I do remember quotes of that. I don't care, bro. I'm going to post my wife as much as I want. Go post your wife on your Instagram.

Yeah, go post your wife on your Instagram. Okay, so I appreciate that from, yay. I got you, yay. I'm with you on that. I remember seeing the question. quotes on that. Okay. Now, again, I'm behind him 100%.

However, watching the video, you see this protruding thing on his lip, and it's driving me crazy. I don't know what it is. It's got to be some kind of implant. I'm not sure people are commenting what it is. I looked, I said I would do a, you know, CTF investigation on the implant on the lip. There's no comment about it. He has not commented about it.

And I'm not sure what it is. but it is strange looking. Now, maybe it's an implant that he uses to enhance the time he spends with his wife. I think that's a possibility. But he has not commented on it. As of now, it just looks like a growth, a cold sore growth on the middle of his upper lip. And while I don't mind the titanium teeth look, I'm not big on the cold sore growth. on the cold sore in the middle of the lip look.

But hey, if Yey wants to have that look, then have that it, yay. I will say that if it is not a implant and it's some core sort of thing that he needs medicine for, maybe he should order a Jace case. Maybe he should go to jacemedical.com and order a jacemedical.com

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And there's delays and treatment cancellations and, you know, unfortunate. rationing of vital medications, even important as antibiotic amoxicillin drugs are in short supply right now, along with 294 others. So maybe Yeh needs to, you know, take care of himself.

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Videos members are initially believing that they were promised commercial free oasis. I know. That's what I said. And now they are pissed that they have to find themselves navigating ad breaks or shelling out an extra $2.99 a month

for, you know, an ad-free stream. I know. That's what I said. And you're not navigating your ads. They just play. I will say they you do have the countdown on them, so it makes it a little bit better. You know, you know when it's going to end,

but there's no fast forwarding through them. Okay. So this sudden shift is prompted a lawsuit in California, accusing Amazon of bait and switch that's left over 100 million subscribers facing ads by default. So the legal challenge, seeking at least $5 million and a halt to Amazon's alleged ad infested course.

Breach of contract, among other consumer protection violations. Yeah, bastards. So, okay, what they're going to do, I mean, really, what they should have done. And I don't know we talked about this before, but they should have just added the three bucks on. They said, look, if you want to, you know, they were going to charge you $3 a month more for, I don't know. I don't know why they're, well, I don't know what the deal is, why they're, uh, breaking it up because the Amazon Prime video is still part

of the full Amazon Prime package. And there's got to be a reason that they don't break it up. And it's got, I mean, it obviously has to be money. Duh. But I don't know why and what amount of money it brings in by keeping it all under one roof and how that affects the numbers

for their streaming platforms. It's just a, it's a strange thing. And I'm, you know, obviously, you know, You know, Jeff Bezos understands it. He's, I don't know, the second or third, maybe fourth richest guy on the planet. So he's got it figured out. I don't. But good luck with that.

Good luck with that because it's agonizing. I almost broke down and paid the $2.99 the other day because the ads were driving me insane. But then I thought, no, no, I'm not going to pay it. But we'll see. we shall see because what they're going to do is they're just going to attack it on to my prime bill and it'll be just like I paid another $3 a month for Amazon Prime and that's if they would have up the rates saying hey we're upping the rates for Amazon Prime $3 a month and for your yearly package it's for however long and you would have said okay

all right fine because you want to be able to have the stuff delivered to your home I love that. I mean, more and more places are delivering things every day. 7-11, there's drones. Pretty soon you're not going to be able to see the sky because it's going to be covered by drones delivering people's stuff. Because every retailer, oh, we deliver to your home. Just tell us we'll be there within 30 minutes delivering in drones.

And maybe that's just Dallas-Fort Worth. But, man, every company wants my drone business. They want me to order goods from them so that they can deliver it to my home with their drones. And so when the skies are dark, it's because drones are blocking the sun. Okay, who died today? Who died today? Lisa Lopez Galvin.

Lisa Lopez Galvin is the victim of the Super Bowl parade mass shooting. She is so far the only confirmed death from the Super Bowl parade. mass shooting in Kansas City, Missouri yesterday, the 14th of February 2024. Very sad. She was, a local DJ did weddings and stuff. She also did a show once a week on

KKFI 90.1 FM. She did, it was a show called The Taste of Tijuana, which I guess is music from northern Mexico. And they confirmed that she did lose her life. She was the mother of two, and no story tells me her age, so I have no idea how old she is or was.

But she did die during surgery after suffering a gunshot wound to her abdomen. Now, 22 people, I believe so far, have been injured, at least eight children. Still not clear what happened. They have three people in custody, two of whom, I guess, were armed. There was like a million people there. It was for the Kansas City Super Bowl parade. All the Kansas City players and coaches is fine. You know, obviously everybody, you know, prayers for Kansas City.

Senseless Act of Violence. And, of course, our president wants you to know that we need to pass gun reform legislation. So there's that. Rest in peace, Lisa Lopez Galvin. All right. Be sure to follow me on my social. media accounts at jeffey jfr on x jeff fisher radio on instagram and facebook you can follow me on youtube chewing the fat with jeff fisher you can email the show anytime chewing the fat at the blaze

com and of course you can order a cameo from me that of course is not free but cameo at jepr on the cameo app all right i'm looking forward to talking to michael jammann he's coming up uh michael jamman is uh you know tv writer showrunner and now author with his new book and we'll be talking to Michael just around the corner. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ,

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plenty of little nicknacks that I want to know about. But I know that you are busy out promoting your brand new spanking book. Yeah. Which, I mean, I started reading it. I haven't finished it. Paper orchestra. I apologize. But I have enjoyed everything that I've read so far.

Thank you. I know that you're Mr. Big Shot television writer, Mr. Big Shot showrunner. And I definitely want to talk to you about some of the things that you've worked on and some of the things that you're working on here in the future. But first and foremost, the new book. paper orchestra. So did you start writing this during the strike or was it during the pandemic? When did you decide? You know what? I need to write a book for myself and not someone else.

This is four, this is four and a half years ago. I just started to start. Yeah, okay. So this is before the pandemic. And it was really just a passion project of mine. I've always been a fan of David Sedaris. I love his writing. I love what he writes about. And so this was just my version of what he does. So there are true stories, but they're fictionalized to tell them in a more dramatic way. So as if I'm a character in a story. It's revisionist history, is what you're doing. The book is... Well, it's all true. It's just the fact that you know, at the time I didn't live it as a story. So I'm recounting it as a story. So now, okay, so I love the comment or the question. It's more of a question statement really in the beginning of the book,

what if the smallest almost forgotten moments were the ones that shaped us most? And I mean, they really are unless, you know, you're in prison for something really big and then it's a big moment that shapes your life. Right. That's the only thing you're known for. But if you're not that guy, it is the smallest moments that shape us for sure, even if we don't realize it.

It's pretty incredible. It's pretty incredible. Well, I enjoyed one of the things as I started going through your book is, and I'm sure this is what you were hoping for, but brought back your own memories. Yeah. Right. I mean, I'm starting to read about, you know, you as a youngster. And I'm reminded of all the Dingleberry things that went through my mind and trying to survive those years. You know, I particularly enjoyed the sister car ride with,

I'll see, this cancer with the fingernails in the legs, right? And the friend puking. Actually, I actually, L-O-Led, Michael. I hope so. I mean, I hope to make you laugh when you're reading it yourself. Yeah. Yeah, it was very good. Do you still?

I mean, you still believe that you get the fingernails in your thighs, you're going to get cancer? I don't know. I know a little more about science now, but that was the... What is your... You know, I know that you talked in one about ghosting one of your girlfriends, Marissa, right? That was her name? Yeah. Did you ever run into Marissa at all since you've ghosted her?

Like, you know, at a coffee shop and like, you bastard? No, I mean, I live far away from where I went to college, but, you know, we're still, we communicate once every few years and she's lovely. She's very sweet. What was how many, okay, so you started writing this and I know I've heard you talk a little bit about, and you even mentioned in the book, I believe that maybe in the epilitar somewhere that you, you know, started writing it and then, you know, obviously the memories would bring back other memories, which is the way it, you know, works for everyone.

you start sitting around telling stories and you realize, oh, yeah, that leads me in to remember this. So how much made the, how much is on the cutting room floor? How many memories are there? Long gone going for book for. Most of it. I mean, I don't have a terrific memory, but the stuff that I do remember, I must be remembering for a reason. It must be some emotional reason why I'm attached to it. And then if I can figure out what that is, maybe there's a story in it.

But I have a list of memories that I keep. Just, you know, I jot them down. And then I'll, when I start a new story, I look at these memories and I go, is there anything there? And most of them there isn't. Most of them, there's not enough to sustain the interest in the story. So I don't write about them. How often do you, jumping away from the book just a little bit, but when you're writing

for shows, films, I mean, you mostly do television work. how often do you watch something see something else and say wow i never would have thought of that oh it's not that i don't think of it i just you know i'll have an appreciation for what they're doing it's not that i don't you know i don't yeah it's not that i like if i'm if the writing is really good i don't even i don't even think about it i'm just immersed in the story it's when the writing is bad then i think about it uh with so much content uh in the world these days. And, you know, I mean, there are so much content out there that it seems to me as just a viewer and a watcher that there's a lot of, what's the word I'm looking for, not good content

out there. How are we going to get past all that? I mean, what's going to happen? I mean, now that you pay, now that you guys are over with your strike, Michael, and you're making all kinds of money, you're making all kinds of residual money, you're raking in the cash. In fact, you're just swimming in cash now that the strike is. The secret is not to watch something that you don't think is good. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Right. So how are you, how's it going with all the platforms and the content? I mean, are you, is it obviously, I mean, it's changed so much that, uh,

you know, with the way it works now. How is that, how are you dealing with that? You okay? Every time and you have you figured it out that, oh, this is how it works now? No, I don't think Hollywood has figured it out right now. I think we're at a period of transition, which is why I'm happy to continue doing my own work on the side and writing books on the side because Hollywood can't tell me what to do

and I don't have to wait for anybody. So when they figure it out, well, you know, more shows will be made. Right now it's a transition. period. Yeah. I see where you talked about going on tour with the book. And, okay, so back up for just a little bit. The audiobook. You did all of the audio in the audiobook? I do the voice, the narration. Yeah. So I perform it. It's a performance, really. So I don't read the book. I perform it. And it really comes alive. And I have a composer. a guy named Anthony Rizzo, who I worked with on a show called Maren, he composed all the music.

So we end the piece with some music to carry the emotion through until the next piece. So it really, I don't think it's like other audiobooks. I think it's an audiobook that's produced by a television producer. So it feels more. Well, I mean, it actually is an audio book produced by a television producer. I got it. So that is, I love that. So a paper orchestra, obviously available, you know, wherever you get your book.

books, more specifically, Michael Jammann.com, would be the best place to do that. So back to that's how you did the audiobook as more of a storytelling production. Is that how you foresee the tour? Yeah, I mean, I've already started performing it. I mean, I didn't come up with this idea. David Sedaris, this is kind of what he does. And he, he has a collection that he'll perform it live in front of an audience. Then he'll go to another town and do the same thing.

And so this is just, you know, I'm a huge admirer. So this is what I do. And the stories are very, my type of writing is very different from his. I absolutely adore his writing. But it's a different kind of show. So, yeah, that's. Are you going to just do it one-man show? Basically, yeah.

Is that how you are perceiving it in your head? Because I find it fascinating that, you know, that you would perform it less, not just come out and read it, you know? Oh, no, no. Yeah, it's more of a performance. And we've already done a handful of shows. And then I wanted to wait. We stopped.

I wanted to wait until the book was out so that we could, because people wanted to buy the book after the show. So I do signing after the show. And then we'll continue. We'll probably start up again probably May, but maybe before that. All stadium tours. Yeah. No, there's small theaters. So if anyone wants to be making sign up at the jammond.com.

And then you'll get a list when I come to your town. You have a notification. So when you started like all your all your social media accounts, Michael Jammin writer at Michael Jammin writer, except for you're not on X, right? No X? I am, but it's M. Jammin writer. There's too many letters. Oh.

But I don't tweet. Elon, what are you doing? Yeah. Let the man have his name. So, but really you're more focused, at least in my world, I see you on Instagram, mostly. and you really started going to town almost every day the last, I don't know, what, three, four years, really? Well, no, it's probably been at two and a half years, but I post almost every day on social media. And I give writing tips.

I talk about writing. I talk about Hollywood. Sometimes funny and sometimes immigration or whatever. And that is all just to build my audience so that when the book came out, people would want to. Absolutely. I haven't taken any of your writing classes, but I have, you know, a little. listen to quite a bit of what you've talked about. Really fascinating.

And I enjoy my favorite post of yours, as long as we're talking about post, is wearing the old army jacket post. My father-in-law, so yeah. Very, very good. Yeah. In fact, my father-in-law, as well as yours, was in NAM, I'm guessing. I don't know that, but he was, I was laughing at your post, and then he had to tell me the story again about how his went missing.

and he was still angry about it. Oh, wow. I guess his brother took it or something. So, um, uh, also as we, as we, as I went through the book and, uh, I, uh, I was enjoying the chapters. Some of the ones that, uh, you know, came to mind. Like, I really enjoyed the magic trick, obviously. Very good.

Uh, very good. The, uh, Jessica suitcase of memories with the, you know, the lost love of Jessica. Um, yeah. How was that? Are you guys okay? Oh, for sure. You and the wife and Jessica are all good. She's happily married and she lives not far from me.

I see her every, I don't know, maybe once or twice a year or something. So, yeah, it's absolutely fine. The lost love of letters on the suitcase. Pretty amazing. Yeah, it's a nice story. Pretty amazing. Yeah. It's little stories.

So any, which one? is your favorite. I know you've got what, like 20, I think, something like that. I looked like there was like, okay. My favorite is the last one that I wrote. That's always how it works, you know. Okay. But they're all kind of just different.

It's hard to say which is my favorite. You know, people respond so differently to them. People say, oh, this is my favorite. Oh, great. You know, it's just how people respond. So my intention was to kind of delight you with each one. So whatever, my favorite is your favorite.

Oh, see? That's so nice. All right. So then you say in the book that you still have your giant bag of footballs hanging in the garage. Is that true? Well, here's one. I mean, here's one of them from it, but it's back there. Yes, it's a giant bag of balls.

So as a punter, I mean, in today's world with, you know, Pat McAfee all over the place with his for the brand as the punter. are you still going out and kicking some? Yeah, occasionally I'm not very good. It's amazing how, I mean, at one point I was okay and now I'm old and like, geez, it's what's the point? I mean, it's amazing how not, how bad I am now. But I do, you know, it's a nice way of clearing my head. I do it occasionally, yeah.

Do you ever, do any of your children ever, athletes or anything where you say, yeah, I used to do that. I used to do that. Well, I was a kicker. We got a family of artists, so that's good. Yeah. Good. All right. So when you do your post, it's usually right in this neck of the woods in your office. So what do we have? What do we got? I want the Michael Jammin tour. Well, I suppose this might be interesting to me. So I did a show many years ago.

it was an animated show called Glenn Martin DDS, and my partner and I were the showrunners. And so these are the puppets. And so they have armatures in them. And this was Kevin Nealyn, was the star. Ryan Planson played this guy over here. And so, yeah, so they, you know, when the show is canceled, they give us the balls.

Here's the puppet. Get out of here. Hit the bricks. So all the shows that you've done, what are you working on now? anything other than you're just hawking your book? I mean, the paper orchestra is it and you're good to go? Are you...

I'm doing an animated project with the guys from Broken Lizard. The guy, the guys from a creative show called a movie called Super Troopers. So we're doing a project with them. It's animated. But right now it's just the focus of the book. The book just dropped on Tuesday and or Wednesday. And so, yeah, I'm not promoting the book. Excellent.

So I'm fascinated as what a showrunner. does. Tell me what you as a showrunner do for a TV show. So the shortrunner is usually the executive producer. The showrunner is the head writer and they decide what

stories are going to be told and how they are going to be told. That's the main responsibilities running the writer's room. But aside from that, you have other responsibilities. You are casting. You make all the decisions for a wardrobe, for how the set should look. You are on

you're working with the actors and the director, you're in charge of the editing, the post-production. I mean, you are the boss. That's what it was. Yeah. And so as the head of the writer, so if you were not the showrunner and just a writer,

you are, are you ever doing anything, no, I've ever doing anything that you want, or are you just using direction from the showrunner and working inside of that? frame. I'm, and yeah, I'm the show I'm currently on. I'm co-executive producer, so I'm not the boss. And your job is basically to pitch, pitch ideas.

And the show owners, I like that. I don't like that. For show's bits. Right, right, right, right. And I find that really fascinating. It's got to be some long days. Oh, it can be very long. It's got to be some very long days.

So the latest book available wherever you get your books. although I'd rather get it at Michaeljaman.com. I saw where you told someone, I believe, how to get a free audio book. Yeah. How do you do that? Basically, if you go to Michaeljaman.com, here's my book. And from there, you can sign up for a free audible trial. And then you can download this link.

And then you download a paper orchestra. rather than you just cancel the trial. And I get paid and you get the book. Nice. Nice. Really, I mean, that's wrong,

Michael. And I don't want people to do that. I want people to purchase your book, Michael. Oh, this is an offering from Amazon. Amazon owns Audible. This is their,

I couldn't, it's not a sneaky thing. That's what they, they're happy to do it. Good, good. Then, you know,

I mean, Jeff's, you know, he's made enough cash. He's got the yacht. He's got the, out for him and the wife, or a girlfriend still. He'll be fine. He'll be fine.

So, paper orchestra, what would you say, should I buy the book today? By the book, yes. Rives in my house. Should I just start from the beginning and go, or should I start at the back? No, you know what? The stories can be read in any order because it's not serialized. The order that I put, you know, we agonized over what order it should go in. and this is the order we decide on for with because I thought, well, this is a nice flow.

It has an ebb and flow. Yeah. This one's light and this one's a little heavier. You don't want to do all that heavy stories up front. But someone just commented that they read, they're reading it out of order. And I don't know why. I think the titles are what interests her. And so she decided it out of order.

Oh, that's fine with me. Well, yeah. I mean, if my favorite story is your favorite story, then whatever way, whatever order you want to read it should be fine. right yeah but you don't care you know whatever you read the book just read the book that's all you care about yeah very funny so I appreciate it

Michael I am I look forward to your posts on all your social media accounts and I was really looking forward to the book and I've been enjoying reading it very much what what final Michael Jammin writer words of wisdom

would you leave with us? Words of wisdom, I would say. You're chewing the fat. Yeah, I would hope that for those who read the book, they'll make you think about your own life and examine the own smallest moments of your life. And like I said, even though the details are from my life, but really the stories are yours. Absolutely. I'll relate to.

It's fascinating. Okay, thank you, Michael Jammin. I appreciate your time. Good luck with the rest of the book sales. and I'm looking forward to seeing you out of the tour. Yeah, thank you again. Stream and subscribe to more Blaze Media content at the blaze.com slash podcasts.