Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Doomed? That we are - 7/23/16
Episode Date: July 23, 2016Today on the Jeff Fisher Show, Jeffy is joined by Mike Opelka (@stuntbrain on Twitter) who discusses his experience at the RNC in Cleveland over the week! Also, Eric Deggans(@deggans on Twitter) join...s Jeffy to discuss great TV Shows and the Emmys, buy Jeffy a drone, and much more! Follow Jeffy on Twitter: @JeffyMRA Like Jeffy on Facebook: www.facebook.com/JeffFisherRadioFollow Jeffy on Instagram: @jeffymra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You may have noticed that the show prior to this show, Pure O'Pelka, hosted by Michael
Pelka, was a, well, I mean, they call it the best of, a replay of an earlier broadcast.
That was because Mike had some issues yesterday and wasn't able to get into the city to do his show.
And I thought, well, heck, I mean, that stinks, right?
I mean, he's just coming off the convention.
He's been in Cleveland.
And, I mean, we should talk to him a little bit about it and find out, you know, what's going on and what's happening.
And if he's going to give us a special maybe recap podcast this week, something.
and so, you know, I wanted to get them on the air and say,
hi, Mike.
Hi, Jeffey.
Oh, no.
What happened?
The machines conspired against us.
Oh, no.
I was in the middle of nowhere in Ohio yesterday,
and my car suddenly said a message saying,
drive train failure, please drive moderately,
which, you know, I can't.
Yeah.
Right.
So I had to stop for quite a while, and it prevented me from making it in.
But I did learn something.
I stopped in the town where they invented the toothbrush.
Well, good for Ohio.
At least they did something.
Yeah.
Had it been anywhere else, they would have called it the teethbrush, but everybody there just had one.
Correct.
Thank you.
Be here all week.
Yes, all week.
So, first of all, first of all, I mean, it was your drive train part of a recall that you weren't aware of?
I was it, you know, what's the deal?
Was it a rent-a-car?
Was it your car?
My car, brand-new car, 2016 models.
Oh.
Yeah, needed a satellite-delivered system reset, but it took a while.
A satellite delivered system reset.
Yeah.
Was the satellite a company?
And you say, I can't get the upper-tier challenge.
We're going to send a signal.
Yeah.
I mean, was the satellite on the other side of the globe?
Was it blocked by the moon?
We couldn't just make that happen?
It doesn't automatically.
It has to recycle and go through a series of issues.
Well, first you have to call the dealer, and then they try and diagnose the problem,
and then they send you to the help center, and you're told to push the SOS button.
You know, it's a whole thing.
I'm sitting in the middle of Ohio.
set the damn car.
Eventually, it
did, but I'm back on the road
again. I'll be in silly, starting,
well, starting tomorrow, actually.
Well, that's good to hear. I'm glad you're okay.
So, you
left Cleveland. Were you
happy? Were you excited?
Anything big that you wanted to report from the
exciting, and I do mean an exciting
convention.
Well, there was a lot going on outside, and we
tried to show you much of it. The
protests and and just the craziness in the streets of Cleveland and the massive police presence.
Yeah, the security was huge.
Everywhere.
And they were incredible.
I have to tell you, Jeffrey, I came prepared with both protection gear and a sidearm just
in case.
And I required neither because of the massive police presence that controlled everything.
And they were amazing.
There was one time when a group of protesters, about 150 of them stretched up and down the entrance to the RNC, the main entrance.
And these bike cops moved in.
And they have actually like synchronized swimmers.
They have routines.
And they can move and block a group.
Three to four protesters are blocked by each bike.
So they move and create a chain and they effectively cut off anything they're trying to do.
It's really something to watch.
Was there any,
besides,
once the security blocked off these protesters,
did we have any,
I mean,
I didn't see any big fights or,
you know,
security going crazy.
We saw a couple of arrests.
The cops all had the plastic handcuffs,
you know,
the ties that they put on you.
I saw,
they grabbed a couple of people
who tried to breach the line
and some people who refused to let
credentialed people passed were actually taken away.
They would search their bags in front of them.
And there weren't too many violent altercations.
They're just, I think, a lot of yelling, mostly from the Westboro people who were just,
they didn't get the memo that you don't make friends by screaming obscenities at people through a megaphone.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some of the most colorful language I've heard outside of the Bronx.
Well, I saw one video where your man, Alex Jones, was shouting at people through a megaphone.
So I know he was there.
Did you happen to run into Alex?
I witnessed Alex trying to take over the young Turks booth.
Yes, I saw the video of that.
I saw several videos of that, actually, different angles.
It was pretty impressive.
That was probably the most violent or physical confrontation that happened.
And it happened inside in the media row, which looked more like a Turkish market on a hot day.
What is his deal?
I mean, he broke in on the Turkish show.
He did.
He and who's the other jerk with him?
Stone, right?
Yeah, Roger Stone.
They tried to take over the young Turks show and really in a confrontational manner.
And I don't fully get it.
I don't grasp the whole poetic being of Alex Jones.
so excuse me, but it just seemed too bizarre.
And then to keep pushing until there was nearly a physical confrontation,
it seems like that was his end game to begin with.
Right.
And then he ended up, you know, just securities here,
okay, well, I'll leave okay then.
I don't want to get here.
You know, if you stand up to him and call him out,
I think he really does back down.
I don't think those Alex Jones vitamins actually work.
No, I don't think they do either.
Well, first of all, we know the weight control program
that he's selling.
Certainly is not something I'd be bragging about being on for the last 12 years as he does.
I am on that same Alex Jones weight control program, so it's okay.
Alex, I'm not giving Alex a hard time over that.
I think one of the most interesting things inside the convention was roaming the halls
backstage on the floor, because you got to see every media person without the camera and lights.
You got to talk to.
I saw Donna Brazil and SE Cup, two people who are so diametrically opposed to one another politically, talking and laughing.
And I had to ask, what are you talking about?
And they were talking about raising a baby because SE had one two years ago.
And Donna Brazils, one of her best friends had a child.
She lost her husband and got very sick having the baby.
So Donna ended up raising this child for the first two months of its life.
And the two of them were just, it was wonderful to watch.
But, you know, your buddy Shepard Smith was there.
And Kilmead said some, sent some greetings to you guys.
And so did Anderson Cooper.
Oh, I love Anderson.
The delegates were a blast.
I went to every delegation and talked to them.
Although the New Hampshire delegation, they checked out before the final night.
Really?
Yeah, they had better places to be.
somebody told me.
I mean, was it a hunting season starting?
I'm not quite sure, but there were like two people left in the New Hampshire delegation.
I said, what's going on here?
Everybody figured they'd get out now.
Wow.
But the merchandise on the street was interesting.
Did you see the picture of the two cereal boxes I posted?
I did.
I did.
I liked it very much.
The story on that is fantastic, Jeff, because here's a kid from New Jersey,
a college kid who decided he was going to try and make money.
He created a thousand of these cereal boxes.
Oh, wow.
Out of his own pocket, he made a Hillary box, and they were little crunch and Trump flakes.
It was great.
And it cost him 25 bucks a box to make these custom printed boxes.
That's a good hit for a box.
He put up $25,000 to get this done.
He went out on the street and on the first.
first day he sold 600 boxes at 40 bucks a box.
Good for him.
He's walking away from this convention with a $15,000 profit.
Good for him.
It makes me so happy.
Yes, it does.
That's capitalism right there on the street.
That's a perfect example of it.
Don't worry.
He'll get to keep about $2,000 of that.
So he's good.
I'm just saying there was a lot of cash transaction.
I don't know how.
many records are actually available.
But there were a lot of shirts and buttons that we can't actually describe here.
There were people that weren't happy with Trump, and there were a lot of people who weren't happy with Clinton.
So they all had merchandise mocking them.
And I'm sure there was some people not happy with Cruz, too, so it was all kinds of fun.
I didn't see too much of that.
You know, there was not a whole lot of that outside of the moment after Ted's mentioning vote your conscience.
There really didn't seem to focus on that.
And there wasn't any Cruz merch out there, really.
I love the fact that so Ted Cruz says, vote your conscience, vote who you believe will, you know, follow the Constitution.
And everybody knows he's not talking about Trump.
I mean, come on.
Hello.
He never even mentioned it.
And did you watch Hillary last night saying, I have to agree with Ted Cruz?
I mean, everybody knows.
It's unbelievable.
It was fantastic.
But here's the weird part about that.
Ted Cruz says, vote your conscience and gets booed.
Ivanka Trump says, I'm not really a Republican, and she gets the water.
Yay!
Yay!
You just sit there and go, hold on a second.
Bizarro world.
It certainly is.
and before we get we'll do a quick hit on Hillary.
I know I'm up against the clock, but I wondered if you, when did you get to the convention?
Because the day before the convention started, the big time photographer Spencer Tunick showed up with his 100 nude women photograph outside the center in Cleveland.
And I just wondered, you know, if you happen to catch any of that.
Because I was looking at some of it.
You think I'd exactly admit to that here on this giant Gannock show?
Yes.
No, I unfortunately miss that.
I'm thinking it's never the ones you want to see naked.
Well, for the most part, that's true.
I mean, are you going to look?
Yes.
Of course.
I might even photograph.
Just for strictly research purposes.
Strictly research purposes.
Yeah, no, I'm not getting anything out.
It was going to be a break.
So we had Hillary last night, and you've got Tim Kane.
Well, first, whoa, wait a second, because I want to make sure that I saw your picture of the Univision bag.
Oh, yeah.
The swag bag from Univision.
Did you grab like one or two to give away on the show for a little giveaway?
Well, inside the little Univision swag bag is one of those portable batteries.
I love those. I love those. I've got like three or four of those bad boys.
Yes, those are great.
And they're perfect when you're out on the street like we work.
Yes, they are. Those are great.
This was, Jeffrey, the interesting thing about this, inside the Republican Governor's Lounge is where this was.
Don't ask how I got in. Just know I was there for about three hours because the food and the drink were fantastic.
But on every table, there were these giant glass jars filled with Univision.
bags with a mini battery charger so you could, you know, not run out of juice on the floor.
But on the label, it says, trying to win without Univision, good luck with that,
Amigo.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Well, passive aggressive there, univision?
And that leads into, you know, having Tim Kane picked for Hillary Clinton, right?
Mr. I can speak Spanish.
He can go up against, he can go up against Univision any time.
He will be speaking Spanish to Jorge Ramos, I'm certain.
in one of their planned interviews.
But no, I'm not giving away the Univision swag,
because those are very very bad,
but there is a bag of R&C different swag up for grabs,
including some of the credentials from each day,
because, as you know, those are real collector's items.
Those are real collector's items.
I mean, that's something to look forward to.
There's only 30, 40, 50,000 of those running around.
Okay, so I know I'm up against the clock, but you didn't have an opportunity to go over a lot of the convention and recap it, and I appreciate you coming on today.
But are you going to do some kind of special podcast for, you know, the Pure O'Pelka stunt brain fans to listen to and get a recap?
Absolutely.
I'll go from Monday with Melania's speech and the Donald's daily appearances, including his big brother-like appearance on Tuesday.
which still kind of creeps me out to my adventures with convention hats and new to giving me the stink guy in an elevator on Thursday.
Nice.
That's great.
So that's how we look forward to at the blaze.com slash radio, Bureau Pelka.
You can download that late Monday, early Tuesday, maybe?
Maybe even late Sunday.
Oh, nice.
And if you actually click on follow, you know, oh, my gosh, you'll know when he's finished because they'll send you an update.
Thanks, Mike.
That's right.
Doc and Skip will probably make a guest appearance as they are bunking in with me for the Philly Adventure.
Oh, we're going to be in Philadelphia, too.
Oh, my gosh.
That would be fun.
That will be fun.
I'm kind of looking forward to that, actually.
Buckle in, people.
This one's going to be a rough ride.
You aren't lying.
I hope security is even better there.
Oof.
I don't know how you can beat what Cleveland did, Jeffrey.
They had 2,500 cops from all over the country.
I hope the DNC is smart enough to pick up on that trend.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah, that's hope with capital letters too,
because you don't know that that's actually true.
Thanks, Mike.
Thanks, Jeffrey.
Appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
Anytime.
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Of course, we'll talk a little Hillary Clinton.
She tagged her vice president yesterday, which didn't come as any really big surprise to the insiders.
Just seemed like a kind of a weird pick.
Same with the Trump pick, though, with Pence.
I mean, it didn't come for the insiders.
I guess it was, you know, not a big surprise, but just kind of a weird pick for the candidate themselves.
We will talk a little bit about Trump at the convention and after the convention.
You know, if he's your guy, good for you.
Good for you.
And we had, of course, another terrorist shooting.
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I know there's some reports of some things happening,
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We appreciate it.
And we've got so much more to get to, too.
We're going to talk a little bit of Emmys today,
and I'm excited to talk to Eric Deggans from NPR about the Emmys.
And also, oh, my gosh, you know what else came out.
A new trailer for a show I'm looking forward to so much.
much. I may have to air it. You never know. I just might have to air it.
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So, Friday, yesterday, sparked a manhunt in Munich as we had an
terrorist attack.
They believe that there were three perpetrators, but as far as I know, they only have
the one that killed himself.
And it's funny that they originally said that they may never know whether it was a terrorist
attack or whether, you know, we never know, we may never know.
We may never know his motivations, except that it was being reported that he was, you know,
yelling Ali Akbar as he was shooting and killing their kids and families and people.
People. No, you know, don't worry about it.
There's only eight or nine dead.
Ah, this one's little, right?
Outside the McDonald's.
I only got eight or nine dead.
Don't worry about it.
Stop it.
So how's all that immigration working out for Europe?
Germany, France.
Spain.
More common.
Yeah.
How's that working out for you?
Good.
Good.
Good.
Hey, had Hillary Clinton pick Senator Tim Kaine
from Virginia as her running mate,
potential vice president, if she wins the
presidency
for the Democratic Party.
And Donald Trump picked
the great Mike Pence out of
Indiana, who has gone
way down, way down
in my
view of Pence. I mean, he was always
kind of a cool guy. In fact, I was
reminded that he was at, you know, the 9-12
gathering in Washington, D.C.
He was, you know,
he was,
you know, at least partial conservative guy.
And now it seems that he's sold out and given in to the, you know, the trumpster.
The convention was a sight to see, wasn't it?
Wasn't it?
For those of you that didn't watch it, bless you.
Bless you.
Go with God.
because I tried my best to watch as little as possible.
It was difficult to watch as little as possible because I was interested in what some of these dangleberries were saying.
And what was going on.
It was supposed to be the spectacle of the RNC.
And it was supposed to be put on by the showman, Donald Trump.
And the only time that we ever got the showman wrestling, WWE, big-time television,
show, Super Bowl of conventions kind of thing was the first night, right?
When Trump just came out, it looked like the WWE with the smoke and standing there and
you had his profile and out he comes.
I mean, that's the only one you got.
Right?
He came out as Mr. President.
Everything was low-key after that, I thought.
It was very weird, weird.
I think they thought that they'd start out with a bang like that and then, you know,
gradually get to more presidential as the week goes on so that when he came out for his big
speech on Thursday, you know, it was very presidential and the backdrop was all flags.
And it was now.
He came out.
He was Mr.
Dark.
I mean,
who, man,
go back and listen to just some of the things that he said in that speech on
Thursday.
And some of it is a little frightening.
And if you find yourself saying, well, yeah, but, yeah, but.
Yeah, but if you find yourself saying that, think again maybe.
Stop and take a step back.
Just take a step back and listen to it again.
And when you hear it again, and if you find yourself saying, yeah, but, no, take another step back and listen again.
And keep stepping back and listening again until you stop saying, yeah, but Trump.
Okay?
because then we had yesterday the new more presidential Donald Trump
giving a thank you a little speech to the volunteers and supporters for a successful convention
and he was behind the microphone and Pence was behind him with his cute little smirk on his face
just kind of
it was so fun
and then
Donald decided hey
you know what
I should probably
I don't know
beat up
Ted Cruz for a little bit
if you turn on television
you turn on some of the
dishonest media you'll see that
oh wow
okay right there
oh my gosh
dishonest media
still throwing media
Somebody got moved the hell out of a place by thousands and thousands of people.
There wasn't one person in the room.
There wasn't one person in the room.
Not one.
And then they said there may not be unity.
Unity.
There wasn't one person in the room who was including the Texas delegation, right?
Honestly, he may have ruined his political career.
I feel so bad.
I feel so bad.
Do you, Don?
And, you know, he'll come and endorse over the next little while.
He'll come and endorse.
Because he has no choice.
Willie?
But I don't want his endorsement.
What difference does it make?
I don't want his endorsement.
I have such great endorsement.
I don't want his endorsement.
Just, Ted, stay home, relax, enjoy yourself.
Just a couple of things.
I knew his speech.
They gave me a speech.
I saw exactly what his speech was.
Because when you go up to speak, you have to give you speech.
You know, we don't want surprises, right?
So they gave it.
They came to me.
They said, it's a boring speech, Mr. Trump.
Nothing good, nothing better.
He congratulates you on the victory.
And here's the speech.
Well, he got up, and in the first two sentences, he added a sentence.
Oh, really?
In other words, he got up, and he added a sentence, which could have been viewed as a nasty thing in terms of what he said.
Really?
He was implying something, which is wrong, but that's okay.
So he took his speech, and you're bound by that speech, just like you're bound by the pledge.
Oh, really, darned.
I mean, the same pledge that you said you didn't have to abide by that pledge.
So Ted Cruz took his speech that was done, was on the teleprompter, said hello, then made.
made a statement that wasn't on the speech and then went back to a speech.
See, to me, that's dishonorable.
I don't know if I can take the other two cuts, but that's your man, Donald Trump, giving his
heartfelt thanks to the volunteers and supporters for a successful convention.
Dishonest media, booed out of the place, ruined his career, didn't honor the pledge,
didn't read word for word the speech that was on the teleprompter like so many others at the convention.
You've got to read word for word what is on the teleprompter.
And then he didn't endorse.
I don't want his endorsement.
No, he didn't endorse, Don, but he did say, tell everyone to vote to their conscience
and up and down the ticket for someone who that would follow the Constitution.
and I find it amazing.
It was pointed out
during, right after the speech,
and I hate to give him credit,
but Stu pointed it out that
was fascinating that he said,
vote your conscience,
vote for someone who, you know,
follow the Constitution, up and down the ticket.
And everyone knew that he wasn't talking about
Donald Trump.
He didn't say it.
So
you already know you've sold out.
But remember, this is
yesterday and this is a little lighthearted
thank you to the volunteers and supporters
for such a successful convention.
He didn't
stop there.
I like Teddy's fine. Again, I don't want his
endorsement. If he gives it, I
will not accept it, just so you understand.
If he gives it, I will. I will not accept.
It won't matter.
Honestly, he should have done it because
Why?
Well, then why shouldn't he have done it, Ted?
Better shape for four years from now if he's going to be.
I don't think, I don't see him winning anyway, frankly.
Huh, for four years from now, you already get thrown in the towel down?
Already thrown in the towel?
Or you just figure, you know, he's going to go up against me as the, as the incumbent.
And there's no way that that can happen.
Okay.
Okay.
I wonder, did it continue or did he say, hey, thanks for the great convention.
We appreciate it.
I've got to go.
His father.
Oh.
I met him once.
I think he's a lovely guy.
I think he's a lovely guy.
All I did is point out the fact that on the cover of the National Enquirer, there was a picture of him.
And crazy Lee, Harvey, Oswald, having breakfast.
Well, I did was just pointed out.
Now, Ted never denied that it was his father.
That's not true.
Instead, he said, Donald Trump, I had nothing to do with it.
This was a magazine that, frankly, in many respects, should be very respected.
They got O.J., they got Edwards.
There's two.
There's two out of 18 billion stories.
That was the New York Times.
They would have gotten Pulitzer Prizes for their reporting.
I've always said, why didn't the National Enquirer get the Pulitzer Prize for Edwards and O.J. Simpson and all of these things.
And all these things.
I've always said that.
I've always said that all these things.
breakfast with Lee Harvey
Oswald. Now, nothing,
I'm not saying anything. They said,
and here's how the press takes that story.
So this had nothing to do with me. We're going to beat up on the press
a little bit more. Except I might have pointed it out,
but it had nothing to do with me. I have no
control over anything. I might have pointed it
out. But they never denied.
Did anybody ever deny that was the father?
They're not saying, oh, that wasn't really my father. It's a little
hard to do because it looks like him.
That's your man.
That's the Republican candidate.
For the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, that's your man.
The day after he was officially accepted the nomination to run for President of the United States for the Republican Party,
at his little get-together thanking all the volunteers and supporters for a successful convention.
That's your man, Donald Day Trump.
with his vice presidential pick, Mike Pence,
uh,
chuckling and smiling behind him.
Yeah, you're right, Don.
Yep, you're right, Don.
That's your man.
Doomed.
Doomed we are.
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Hey, what do you do in August 5th, 6th, and 7th?
Nothing.
Well, make plans to come here to the museum, put on by a Mercury Museum,
Liars or Liberty.
It's going to feature thousands of artifacts.
My wife has been taking pictures of so many of these artifacts that's going to be in the tour.
Some of them are fascinating.
My kids have been here looking at them and just loving the George Washington and the founder.
stuff.
So go to liars or liberty.com.
Liarsorliberty.com and get your tickets.
You can get, there's general admission tickets, there's private tours with Glenn or
David Barton, there's a special VIP night.
There's also probably going to be some, you know, private tours with, oh, I don't know,
myself, Pat, Stu, we'll all be here.
Well, I'll be hanging out, giving two.
giving tours of the museum and checking it out.
So, I mean, the last time was great.
And so I'm really actually looking forward to this.
So August 5th, 6th, 6th, go to liars or liberty.com.
You can do that, right?
You can do that.
No problem.
All right.
So thank you.
I look forward to seeing you here in Las Colinas, Texas, here at the Mercury Studios.
Season 7, Walking Dead.
The trailer was just released at Comic-Con and looks pretty darn good.
Now, I have an interview with Eric Deggans coming up next hour.
We're going to talk a little TV and a little Emmys, a little bit of the Emmys.
And I'm going to talk a little bit of Walking Dead with Eric and see exactly how he feels about that.
Because the Emmys, the Emmys, they don't like the Walking Dead.
They do not like The Walking Dead.
I mean, the Walking Dead ends up getting, you know, best cast made for a show under 33 hours.
They get nominated for that.
They don't win it, but they get nominated for it.
So it's really kind of weird.
We're going to have to talk to Eric maybe a little bit about that as well.
And exciting news from Nickelodeon.
They're going to debut its first-ever biracial gay couple on cartoon.
The Loud House, the Loud House cartoon.
Yay!
The scene shows two dads dropping off their son off of a slumber party.
Doesn't make a fanfare about the couple being same-sex.
Instead, focuses on their overprotective nature.
Yay!
I mean, it's not new for Nickelodeon.
They've had drag queens, shown same-sex kissing.
So, I mean, this is just, I mean, this should have been done a long time ago, Nickelodeon.
What the heck are you thinking?
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How about that?
TV critic,
uh,
journalist, author,
pundit,
bon vivant.
You,
you can call yourself that if you want.
I don't want to call you that.
I'm too good a mood to call you that.
I'm not sure what that means,
but I just, I like the sound of it.
And, uh,
television critic for NPR.
Eric,
thanks for coming on.
I appreciate it.
Always a pleasure.
Um, first I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the Emmys.
We had the big Emmys,
um,
They released the list of nominees a week or so ago.
And how did you feel about those nominees overall?
It's interesting.
I sort of felt like, you know, I've been covering TV for a long time since 1995.
And usually when the Emmys roll around, you write that column where you just complain about all the stuff they missed.
And, you know, the Emmys for many years had this reputation for honoring shows.
well past when they should have honored them, you know.
So somebody would win an Emmy, and really the show that they were on was great, say, two seasons ago.
Right, right.
One of the most recent examples is last year they nominated this actress, Tatiana Maslani,
from this show called Orphan Black that's on BBC America,
and she plays a character that's been cloned several times,
so she actually plays six or seven different versions of the same person.
sudden. Right. One's Ukrainian. One is sort of a bohemian. One is sort of an uptight housewife. You know,
it's an acting tour to force. And she did that show for three years before she got nominated.
And so you just, you get used to Emmy being behind the curve. And this list of nominations this
year is not that. It is so not that. They seem to have really made,
effort to recognize shows when they're good. So Blackish, for example, on ABC got a lot of nominations,
including Best Actor in a Comedy for the Star Anthony Anderson and Best Actress in a Comedy
for Tracy Ellis Ross. That's a show that hit its creative peak just this past season. And so
it's perfect that it would get those nominations now because the show is really good. It's one of
the best ones, it's one of the best comedies on television. There's also a show also on ABC called
American crime. That's this, it's one of these interesting anthology series where they have the
same cast, but they put them in different roles and they tell a different story every season.
So, it's kind of cool.
It was a few debuted last year, and it was about the murder of this guy in his apartment
and supposedly his wife, I think, had been sexually assaulted, but then they found out that
might not have happened. And it involved a multiplicity of character.
of ethnicities and ages and races.
And then they took that same cast,
and they told a different story this year,
which was about a kid who was sexually assaulted in a high school.
And a lot of the same actors,
but they were playing totally different roles.
So the show was much better this year,
and it got Emmy nominations this year as opposed to last year.
Okay, I see that that's the outstanding.
It's a wrong way of saying that Emmy is right on the curve now.
They're right.
They're honoring these shows when they're good, and it's something that critics like me have been asking for for a long time.
So I see, actually, speaking of American crime that they're in the outstanding limited series,
do you think they have a chance against the people v. O.J. Simpson this year?
Probably not.
But what's interesting is that that limited series category has been a place to park series that are not sort of your conventional series.
So, you know, People versus O.J. Simpson is – that's a series that's – they're going to do it again next year, but it won't be the O.J. Simpson case. It's going to be Hurricane Katrina.
So the series is called American Crime Story. That's on FX. And this year they did the OJ. Simpson trial.
Next year, they're going to do Hurricane Katrina in the aftermath, and they may tackle another crime story after that.
So that's in the same category as Fargo, which is also on FX, and that's a show where it's based on the movie, right?
And the first season took place at one time, and it had one cast of characters.
The second season, which it's being nominated for now, took place 30 years earlier and has an entirely different cast.
And even though there's just two characters that are the same in both editions of the show,
those characters are much younger in the you know 30-year earlier versions they were played by different people
so you have all these you know it's it's their series you know on the one hand but they change a lot
from season to season so they get parked in this category called limited series um roots is also
there um you know now roots they redid the classic mini series on the history channel
um and that's just a one-time thing they they redid it um this year
So that show is competing in the same category as People v. O.J. Simpson and American Crime and Pargo.
And they're all very different, but there's a little less competition in this category than best drama.
So I think that's why some of these shows get slated in that category.
Before we talk a little bit about some of the different networks or producing networks for shows,
Let's talk a little bit about since I want to be, since I'm a little biased toward a show called The Walking Dead, which I love.
The Emmys don't seem to like that show.
And I'm really kind of surprised why, since it's one of the top shows, you know, on television.
Maybe that's why.
But by...
You want me to explain it?
Yes, I do.
Not like what we call genre shows.
So those are shows that are...
All right.
All right, stop right there, Eric.
Eric,
stop, Eric,
Eric.
Science fiction shows.
What?
Stop for a moment.
I want to stop you at they don't like genre shows and let you see the list of Game of Thrones
nominations in this list from the Emmys.
Okay, so.
Well, for every rule, there's an exception, right?
Okay.
Game of Thrones is such an achievement in terms of production and it airs on HBO, which always gets a lot of
love from the Emmys. There's a lot of reasons why that show deserves and gets the most Emmy
nominations. But then you look at the rest of the shows that get nominated. And there's hardly
any of them are genre shows, right? Game of Thrones is the one exception. But I think that's one
reason why, you know, earlier I talked about Orp and The Star of that show. I think one reason why
I took her so long to get nominated is because Orphan Black is a science fiction show.
And Emmy generally does, you know, cast a skeptical eye towards shows like that.
So even though you have a show, like for me, I think a show like The Flash on the CW has incredible acting on it.
It has great writing.
It is a really well-made network TV show.
Yeah.
But it will never get nominated because Emmy just it doesn't give a, it doesn't give us.
a lot of cachet to a show like that, in part, I think, because it's based around a superhero.
So I would say The Walking Dead is a show that has been sort of conspicuously snubbed over the year.
I know.
They do a lot of great work in makeup and special effects and staging and production.
And there's also a lot of good acting.
Now, I will also say, though, as a critic, that I feel like their last season,
is probably one of their weaker seasons.
I would say only the second season of the show was worse than this one.
I might actually have to give you that one.
Yeah, I think they took some chances that didn't pay off.
And it wound up weakening the show to the point where I'm not surprised that they didn't get nominated this year.
But the last Emmys, there were some of the last.
really standout episodes that I think deserved recognition and they just didn't get it.
I know.
But look, they still are able to walk away with, you know, possibly walking away with
outstanding prosthetic makeup for a series.
So, I mean, who doesn't want that?
Who doesn't want that?
Exactly.
But there's some great acting on that show and it gets overlooked and that's unfortunate.
Okay.
So let's talk a little bit about how the Emmys have changed when you talked about FX.
You mentioned HBO.
We're talking about Walking Dead on AMC.
And we're talking about a look at the shows coming at you from Netflix, Bloodline, House of Cards.
Those are great shows.
Look how the ground has changed now on television.
It is, for me, I love it.
I mean, there's no better time on television than right now as far as I'm concerned.
Exactly.
I think most people who love television,
should love television right now because television right now is all about the will of the consumer.
The reason why we have all these different platforms doing all this original programming is that
the advent of online technology and streaming services have created this environment where
the user, the viewer, has more control than they've ever had.
I love it.
You know, you can, you know, I have a DVR that's that I got from my cable provider,
and it can record six channels at once, and it can hold an incredible amount of programming.
So I could spend maybe about 20 or 30 minutes programming it,
and then I never have to watch a minute of television I don't want to watch.
See?
And that creates an environment where these channels have to give you.
view shows that you want.
Well, it's a catch-22 for them, though, because when you, I mean, I give you that there's
no better time for television.
However, having seen it a little bit from the inside, and I'm not an expert by any means,
but having seen it from the inside a little bit here working for the Blaze Television
Network as well as Blaze Radio, you know, you're caught in a catch-22 because
without, if you just start picking shows.
Let's say AMC.
We'll use Walking Dead for an example.
Without Netflix, Walking Dead would be already over right now because there wasn't going to be any money.
They made a couple of years and nobody was just kind of, okay, that's kind of a cool show.
But then they threw it up on Netflix and it was huge.
So if you just simply stick with cable and hope that somebody watches a show, AMC has not enough money to produce these shows.
And so all these little other separate networks, FX and down the line, you know, they don't have, they can't get the money without the cable money to do it, you know, on their own.
It's pretty, it's pretty tough to make a living doing that.
Right, right.
Well, you know, I'm, I said, this is a great time for people who watch television.
It's a really great time for people who make television.
Right, right, right, right.
disagree with you a little bit, specifically on the Walking Dead example. The Walking Dead
so far is the most watched scripted television amongst the 18 to 49 demographic on television.
Understand. But they are making money. But it has not been that.
The cable runs of that show. I understand that. But it's not been that way for the entire seven years.
No, it hasn't been that way for the entire seven years, but it's been that way for a good portion of it.
Okay, and without, but that was my point.
And what Netflix is doing is Netflix is doing what syndicated TV used to do.
So, so think back to law and order, okay, the original law and order.
You know, old heads in your audience will remember this young people won't.
But when Law & Order first started on NBC, it kind of floundered, it almost got canceled in his first season, they revamped the show.
And then a few years into its run, they started rerunning it.
on A&E, the A&E network.
And people started finding it there because it would air three times, three different windows on A&E.
So it was easy to watch.
And because it was law and order, all the episodes were encapsulated, it was easy to just catch one episode and kind of enjoy it.
And so it created an awareness of the show that fed people into watch the new episodes on NBC,
and then it became a huge hit, right?
So that was a case of syndication, creating an audience for the show that did the actual show.
So that's what's happened with Netflix, with Breaking Bad, and with The Walking Dead in particular.
Now those reruns go to Netflix, and it cultivates an audience that wants to see the new episodes, and then, you know, they come to the new episodes.
So the viewership for Breaking Bad exploded in its fourth and fifth year because people got it.
into the third season on Netflix, and the same thing happened with The Walking Dead.
So this has been happening on TV for a long time.
It's just, it's happening on Netflix and Hulu now instead of insindicated television.
I am so spoiled with not watching commercials that for a while I had canceled cable,
and then I got it back because they broke into my house and, you know, just put it in my house.
I couldn't stop them.
It was an ugly scene, ugly.
But I went completely streaming.
I'm really spoiled with commercials now, and I'm going to tell you it's going to be harder and harder for these networks to make money.
I wish I was the one that could come up with the idea of how these networks could make money and not actually have commercials because somebody's going to have to.
I hope it's made.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing that's interesting, too, about this moment is that the technology makes it harder to make money.
Oh, no kidding.
Advertising.
Right.
Because in broadcast television, they put the commercials in the show, and they assume that if you watch the show, you saw the commercials.
Right.
Right.
But with DVRs now, I record everything.
I almost never watch something live.
I know because you want to watch it on your time.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, I want to see it when I want to see it.
You know, I don't want to see it when it airs.
I want to see it when I have time to watch it.
Correct.
And also, I don't want to sit through the commercials, right?
So I use my DVR to breeze right through the commercials,
and now they can't assume that just because I'm part of that three-day rating,
because now in advertising, as you know, they sell commercial time on the three-day rating,
not just who watches it when it airs, but who watches it for the next three days.
Right.
So they can't assume that because I saw it, that I actually saw the commercials.
So what's happening is they're doing a lot more product placement.
They're putting products.
And you see that more and more.
You see that more and more.
They're figuring out ways to configure the commercials so it will stop you while you're fast-forwarding through them.
And that's actually been kind of effective.
Like if you watch Saturday Night Live is a great example.
Nobody watches.
Or very few people watch Saturday Night Live.
Right.
You know, they either watch it online or they DVR and they watch it later.
I watch it on Sunday mornings.
So when I'm fast-forwarding through the commercials, they have a little interstitial.
bit where they show you, they show them setting up the next sketch that's going to come up.
So they have the two stars of the sketch.
They're usually standing around, you know, figuring out where they're going to stand when the
sketch starts, and the makeup people are working on them or whatever.
And they show the logo in the corner of the screen.
If you're fast-forwarding, it looks like the show's starting back.
Right.
So you stop.
So you might stop.
And I know they do this, and I still do it all the time.
I will stop to see if the show is restarting.
And then I wind up seeing the commercial that ears right after that.
Because you don't want to fast forward and miss it because you know it's coming up in another minute.
That's the, you know, the argument, though, to that.
And that's funny that you, I was kind of the three-day rating.
They should actually do that for a couple more days out because you think about that.
Like if a show is on Monday and I DVR it, and they usually do it for like seven days, sometimes more.
If I watch it on demand, I can't fast forward the new shows.
If I DVR it, then, you know, obviously you're flying through them as much as you can
because nobody wants to see the commercials, which is weird because I love commercials.
But for some reason, when I'm watching a show, it seems like I'm supposed to hate them.
So I fast forward them.
I'm not quite sure I understand that either.
But they should push that a little bit farther.
out, but that's another story in itself.
Well, actually, I mean, I think the industry is, there are some TV providers who sell
advertising based on the seven-day model.
Right.
And there are some TV providers, there's some cable TV channels that, for example,
will only put out press releases with ratings for the seven days.
The problem is that it takes so long to find out what the rating is that it's hard for
journalists like me to know how successful the show was.
All right. So hold on, Eric. I got a break, and then we'll get right back to you.
Eric Deggans, joining me here on the Jeff Fisher Radio Show on the Blaze Radio Network. More in a moment.
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All right, joining me on the broadcast is Eric Deggans, NPR, a television critic,
and what did you call yourself again?
Bon vivant.
Yeah, yeah, that word.
I'm not calling you that.
I can't call you that.
I get in trouble if I call you that.
We were talking a little bit about the Emmys.
They don't let you use French.
We were talking a little bit about the Emmys and television,
and then I kind of wanted to talk to Eric a little bit about, you know,
we see the future of television as it is is breaking out.
Do you think that this plethora of television and online streaming is,
are we going to get farther and farther away from cable companies?
Well, that's a challenge right now.
There's, I think it's a generational thing.
Young consumers do not want to pay for a bunch of channels that they don't watch.
Again, as I said earlier, TV right now is about what the viewer wants, you know,
and anybody who provides television who doesn't have top of mind catering to the whims of the viewer
is going to lose out.
And the cable companies, I take my hat off to them in a way because they've managed.
to avoid giving viewers what they want for a long time.
But now we've reached a point where the technology is just inescapable.
Right.
And so now, you know, you have Sling TV and you have these, what they call skinny bundles.
You know, everybody's figuring out ways to give, especially younger consumers,
smaller bundles of channels because they're alive.
Well, I mean, they have to.
Look.
The younger consumers, especially, are not going to pay for 50 channels.
they don't want.
Right.
I mean, when I, when I canceled cable not long ago, when I pulled the plug, I couldn't, it was
financially bad for me to completely pull it out.
They made it, you know, so look, if you just want to keep your internet, it'll be cheaper
if you keep your internet and the basic cable.
Right.
Okay, so I'm like, okay, well, all right, well, then I'll just keep the basic cable, then
fine, because I'm not going to, you know, why spend, you know, $30 or $40 more a month
on just streaming.
I mean, that's just stupid.
I mean, I'm dumb.
I got it, but I'm not stupid.
And so, I mean, they are finding ways around it.
Sooner or later, though, that is even going to stop.
I mean, you say the younger generation, I mean, I'm 155 years old, and I get it.
I don't even want to do it.
You know what I mean?
I don't even want to do it.
You know, you look amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
You got to tell me what you do.
Yeah, it's a skin degree.
Yeah, yeah, it's totally true.
I mean, you know, we're talking averages.
You know, we're averaging over, you know, millions of consumers.
But, yeah, there's lots of people who are age and older who also don't like the idea of paying for a bunch of cable channels they don't watch.
And, you know, there was an interview with Les Moonvez, who's the president of CBS, where he was talking about this.
He's saying that this is the new thing now is the skinny bundles of channels that people can pay a smaller fee.
usually it's streaming, you know, usually it's some kind of streaming service, and they pay a smaller fee,
and then they have access to a smaller, very niche-focused.
Welcome to the party, Les.
Welcome to the party, Les.
Appreciate it.
Exactly.
Well, you know, and it's interesting because all of these, you know, CBS and Showtime and HBO, you know, they all have these standalone streaming services now where, you know, if all you want is HBO, you know,
you know, you can pay them, you know, X number of dollars a month and just have that.
I like the CBS.
You have to have cable service.
Yeah, I like the CBS.
Yeah, the CBS plan is actually pretty good where they, you can,
they let you stream the new shows for free within the first, I think, seven days or something.
And then if you want anything like that, then you have to subscribe.
And that's pretty good.
I mean, that's a pretty good plan because they're on every cable network anyway.
I think it's like $7, like $7.09.
a month, I think is what it is.
I mean, this stuff starts to add up.
It sure does.
You have Showtime and you have CBS.
It sure does.
But that's all you want.
I mean, it adds up quick.
It adds up quick.
And then the next thing you know, you're paying, you know, $290 in cable and pl on top of everything else.
And then you're hearing a female in the house that you're married to be unhappy.
Well, you know, when you think about it, though, I mean,
If you're not, I mean, I think sports is one of the places where it's still very problematic.
Live events, man.
It's hard to guarantee if you're a sports or not, you're going to be able to see everything you want without having a cable.
But if you don't care about that, then you could get Sling TV, which has like 20, I think 20 channels on it, including ESPN.
And you could get HBO, you know, direct.
You could even get CBS direct.
And you pay less than if you, um, you.
bought the kind of packages that would give you all those channels and cable,
which would also include all these other channels that you don't care about.
So I think for the person who has kind of a focused media diet, it makes sense.
But for somebody like me who, you know, one day I want to watch, you know, CNN,
and then the next day I want to watch MTV Live,
and then the next day I want to watch HBO, and the next day I want to watch, you know, stars.
And then I want to binge on Netflix.
makes more sense to have cable. Yes, it does. I know. I know. That's why they came back and they
broke into my house, Eric. That's why. That's exactly why they did that. Just when you got you
rat, they put you back in. All right. So, Eric Deggans from NPR, television critic, also an author,
an author of a book called Race Bader, how the media wields dangerous words to divide the nation.
Eric?
Yes.
I'm part of the media.
that hurts
what's that
I'm part of the media
that hurts
you are
that hurts
that hurts
that hurts
I don't want to divide the nation
Eric
well
you know
I haven't listened
to your show
enough to know
if you fit
in that definition
you know
Blembeck
he's in the book
I know that
I know that
I know that Eric
trust me
he's in the book
so
the book itself
talks about
how there are some media outlets and some programs where their stance on race and the way they talk about race is an essential part of their appeal.
And, you know, I'll use an example that's not in-house.
I'll talk about Fox News, which has been in the news lately.
Yes, they have.
You know, Fox News, there's a vision that guides that channel.
It was created by Roger Ailes, the creator of the channel.
And it is a vision that is pretty much middle-aged, politically conservative white guy.
And what appears on that channel and the way it's framed and the anchors that deliver that framing are all, from the perspective, friendly to appealing to middle-aged, conservative white males.
the guys who are anchors on the channel all fit that mold.
The women who are on that channel all appeal to that kind of sensibility.
They're attractive to that kind of sensibility.
And the stories and the way they're discussed and the punditry and the way they discuss things,
it's all framed from that point of view.
And so that means that, you know, your surveys,
and in the book I talk about it, surveys and studies tell us that that demographic
has a certain way of viewing race relations, racial issues, racial prejudice, the idea of
institutional prejudice that there are institutions in American life like the criminal justice
system or media that have prejudice and stereotypes embedded in them.
You know, that demographic has a certain way of viewing all those issues, and Fox News
talks about those issues from that viewpoint.
And so that viewpoint sort of benefits one side of the equation and doesn't the other.
and treats one side of the equation as sort of the embodiment of truth and other parts of that equation less so.
And, you know, in my book, I sort of dissect how Fox News talks about a few different racial controversies.
And it's obvious which sensibility is guiding the conversation.
And so what happens is when people of color and women are not able to have their point of view adequately represent it,
then that ends up being divisive because people get frustrated and they have to find a way to have their perspectives acknowledged as much as other people's perspective.
That's where the dividing the nation part comes from.
This has been out for three or four years now.
It might be time for part two.
There's a lot of...
Actually, within that time period...
About a way of updating it.
Yeah, within that time period from now until the time you put this out, there's been a lot going on.
It's been quite a bit happening.
You know, so did the advent of...
I mean, just, you know, Netflix and online stuff was in its emphasis when I wrote the book.
So that's one thing that's really important.
But also, you know, network television has changed a lot.
And so the chapter that talks about network television talked about network television right before it got this huge influx of diversity.
So that chapter certainly needs updating.
And, of course, the book came out right – it came out in October 2012, so it was right before the election with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama.
So there was a whole chapter on politics and media that was very much focused on the 2012 election.
And now, of course, you know, that whole political landscape is very different.
Yeah, quite a bit.
Quite a bit.
Quite a bit different.
It's huge.
It is hugely different.
It is absolutely hugely different.
And you know what?
We're just going to leave it right there.
We're going to leave it right there, Eric, because I don't know that I can pull any more hair out of my head.
Eric Deggans, NPR.
I appreciate it very much.
It's looking like him if you did.
Hey, where's my room shot?
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
It was there.
You might not have heard it, but it was there, I promise.
Eric Deggans, NPR.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it, man.
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I don't know if you had an opportunity to see this.
but it makes me happy and sad at the same time.
The highest paid celebrities of 2016.
You have an opportunity to see this?
I mean, okay.
That makes me happy because, look, you're supposed to be happy for people to be successful
because that's what we want.
We want people to be successful.
We want other people to be successful, which leads to your success
and more success of other humans.
part of the deal.
But, you know, then it makes me sad, too, because the top 25, man, it's just an awful lot of money.
It's an awful lot of money.
I mean, the top, well, 25 to 15, you've got Paul McCartney, Bruce Springsteen, Jackie Chan, Diddy, Calvin Harris, David Copperfield, Dwayne Johnson, the Rolling Stones,
ACDC, Roger Federer, and Garth Brooks.
Garth Brooks is at $70 million.
Okay, Paul McCartney, P peanuts at 56,500,000.
But now McCartney's been doing that for a lot of years.
And it's fascinating that the Rolling Stones make 665.
And congratulations.
Don't forget Mick Jagger just had a little, you know,
is going to have a new little baby at a rural day.
72. And, man, that's a tough call right there. And then we go to Rihanna, Ellen DeGeneres,
Madonna, LeBron James, and Rush Limbaugh coming in at number 10, $79 million.
And the top nine, Adele, $80 million. Lionel Messi, $81 million. Howard Stern, $85 million.
Kevin Hart, $87 million.
Ronaldo, $88 million.
Dr. Phil.
Dr. Phil, $88 million.
James Patterson, $95 million.
One direction, $110 million.
That's an awful lot of money.
I mean, congratulations.
You know, Rush at 79.
Adele 80, Lionel Messi, Howard Stern, Kevin Hart, Ronaldo, Dr. Phil, James Patterson.
Those are all single people.
You have your entourage, of course, and your business that you have to pay for.
One direction, I mean, you've got to break up the $110 million, so that's kind of tough.
And coming in at number one.
Coming in at number one, at the highest paid celebrities of 2016.
Say it with me, Taylor Swift.
Taylor Swift, number one.
Now, One Direction is a band.
They made $110 million.
Taylor Swift, one human being, $170 million.
I mean, congratulations.
God bless you, but at some point you'd make too much money, don't you think?
I think so.
I think that's at some point you have.
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Okay.
So let's talk a little bit about drones, shall we?
We've talked about quite a bit on this program.
And everyone, I don't know if you have one yet.
I do not, and I want one bad.
Although I don't know why I want one, I just do.
I mean, I've got the, you know, how many little helicopters can I crash?
All right?
Let's go look at me a drone that I can crash.
I really want one bad.
And so I'll put it on my list.
Okay.
When you think to yourself, hey, what can I, if you're out there and you're thinking to yourself,
what can I get Jeff Fisher as a gift?
Because I so appreciate his broadcast and he just means so much to me.
I need to show my appreciation.
I drone would be fine.
I'm okay with that.
I just send it here to the Mercury Studios in care of me.
And, you know, I'll let you see it.
And you got to learn to fly it right.
There's a guy, a couple of people here.
One of them used to work here.
And he was on the cutting edge, actually, of flying drones and being able to film with
him.
And he's on the cutting edge of that because he was out of work for a while.
And so he got himself a drone and taught himself how to fly it.
And he was forever showing me videos that he was taking.
And it was just practice videos of, you know, him flying around and going to
between buildings and stuff and really cool.
And he ought to just go out to Hollywood and say, hey, I'm here, now your drone cameraman and pay me.
There was another guy that came here to film some stuff, and you may have seen it.
It was posted.
It's posted somewhere.
I could find it.
He was his company, or he was the company with his drone and a camera.
And he would film stuff for, you know, he was a freelance artist of filming with his drone.
And so he practiced and he came through the building here and they went up over the Mercury Studio sign and came back down and they were filming Glenn walking through.
And so he misjudges the top of the Mercury Studios and it crashed hard.
I mean, it broke the dick.
He was pissed.
And I don't blame him because it's a lot of money.
But it's your fault, dude.
You know what?
Your fault.
But you got to learn to fly those bad boys.
If you're going to be trying to make some money or deliveries, you know, you've got to learn to fly them.
Which is, you know, why we're at the time of, you know, drone deliveries and why they really haven't happened as fast as we were hoping, or at least as fast as I was hoping, because it takes a little bit more work than you could imagine to deliver packages, to fly around populated areas.
This area that we're in, for instance, is a big Amazon area.
They've got a huge warehouse not far from here.
And this is one of their, it's supposed to be, you know, in the future,
one of their prototype areas where they're going to have drone deliveries.
They already have a same-day delivery in this area.
And, you know, how great is that?
In the morning, you see something you want.
order it on Amazon, it's to you, uh, within a couple of hours.
I mean, that's, that's world class.
But yesterday, there was a big milestone in drone deliveries.
7-Eleven.
7-Eleven made the milestone, which is, you know, fascinating that they would make the milestone.
Um, they used a drone to deliver an order to a family in Reno, Nevada.
The company partnered with a drone startup, Flirty.
So if you want to go to work for a drone company, it's up and coming.
Flirty, there's your company.
The company said it would be the first time a drone is legally delivered a package to a U.S. resident who placed an order from a retailer.
Oh, my gosh.
What was?
I had a big crash behind me.
I thought somebody was breaking in, and all it is is my briefcase falling over and coffee spilling
everywhere.
That's not good.
It was not a drone, although that's what's going to happen when I start flying my drone
around.
Things are going to start crashing behind me.
How many of those little helicopters you've gone through, just between me and you?
How many?
Because I know I probably still have one in the garage that is still in the box that I'm
afraid to open because it's one of those, it's really cool.
And I like the way it looks.
But I don't want to open it because if I open it and start flying around, I'm going to crash it.
It's going to be done.
I was a mix
a little nervous behind me.
Hold on.
I'll wait until the break,
but I should, you know,
pick it up.
There's coffee everywhere.
I wish we had a drone cleaner.
So it took two drone flights to deliver all the items ordered.
Two drone flights for chicken sandwich and slurpees.
They were pretty fascinating.
Flirty wants to work with 7-Eleven for other drone deliveries in the future.
Amazon, Google, Facebook are all, you know, practicing with drones.
Federal Aviation Administration has, you know, drone regulations.
They have pushed them.
They do a lot of testing overseas because of the FAA.
Yeah, I wouldn't want us to test everywhere.
Now, let it be overseas.
That's a good idea, agonizing.
Now, the state of Nevada is one of six FAA drone testing sites.
It's nice of them.
Thank you, FAA.
We appreciate it.
Now, in March, Flirty made the first federally sanctioned anonymous drone delivery in a U.S.
urban area to an abandoned home.
They also used a drone to deliver medical supplies in rural Virginia last summer.
And that drone actually is being displayed at the Smithsonian.
That's kind of cool.
But 7-Eleven makes the first drone delivery.
When you, you know, you'll get that on,
there's your little tidbit of trivia for you.
Who was the first company to deliver food to a U.S. home?
7-Eleven.
Chicken sandwich and slurpees.
Yay.
And then Facebook, of course, is testing their drones for Internet drone.
You know, the Internet beaming drones,
which are a little bit different than the delivery drones.
No question.
But they just did Facebook.
just tested theirs.
It's pretty cool looking.
It's a big thing.
I mean, it's a big drone.
But they want to, you know, be able to fly these all around and give places without
Internet.
Now, it's really cool because they want to, first of all, they want to give it away.
Facebook doesn't want to own it.
Huh?
They aim to give away the blueprints for its drones to other Internet devices so that anyone
from local governments to Internet service providers can construct a new way to get Internet
signals into hard to reach places.
Okay.
Dear Facebook.
Okay, thank you.
We appreciate it very much.
But the plan is to power these drones, and they're big.
What's the size of the Facebook drone?
140 feet, something like that.
Really big.
They want to power these with the sun so they can stay, you know, a lot of for
months at a time.
And they eventually want to install solar panels that plug into yet unspecified battery
technology, check with Tesla in a year, suitable to flights that climb to about 60 to 90,000
feet where the temperatures are, of course.
Now, I know Google is working on the same kind of thing with the internet drones and
internet balloons.
We're going back to the balloons.
The balloon days.
Kind of weird.
Just a little weird.
Now, Amazon had this idea for their drones.
That's kind of cool.
And it got me thinking about different ways to do this.
But they want to use streetlights and church steeples for.
for refueling stations for the drones.
The docking stations, and they have the pictures here,
it's kind of cool looking.
But I originally saw this and I thought,
they want to use the church steeples and the light,
you know, the street lights for the docking stations
because, you know, they can extend the range
by providing recharging and refueling stations.
They can include package handling facilities and can act as a final destination for delivery hub.
They can include navigational aid to guide the UABs to the docking stations and to provide routing information from central control.
They can be incorporated into existing structures such as cell towers, light and power poles, and buildings.
Okay, well, that's kind of cool, right?
But I got to thinking, how many stories have we heard, or at least I have read anyway, about the post office
doing away with all their mailboxes, those blue mailboxes, right?
So I got me wondering, I wonder if we could use those for recharging docking stations,
and you could put those anywhere.
And it would be owned by Amazon.
And you could make it, you know, if you made it generic enough,
other companies could use your recharging stations, which you could charge them for.
you're welcome Amazon this is you know this is on me okay on me to you
I know it's not high up so I guess we'd have to you know kind of I guess we'd worry
about a little bit more about security and the power lines are already in the street
lights and now they're not in the church steeples though but they would be throughout
the neighborhood so you could
really use them to recharge
and it would be good for them
to pick up
GPS tones from those
to know where they're at and what they're doing and where
they have to deliver. Anyway, it's just a thought.
Perhaps the post office could, I don't know,
work on developing that
and I don't know, make a little money
instead of losing money.
Maybe if you had a good postmaster general. Oh, I know.
I'm willing to be your postmaster general.
always wanted that title.
Perhaps we could work on that and create,
instead of just making me drive by the post office
and see 18,000 blue boxes packed in the back,
getting rusty, doing nothing,
maybe we could use those and, you know, help
move the future forward instead of looking back
and losing money.
Hey, that's just a thought from me.
What do I know?
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How many of you have you used?
L.O.L.
Well, you searched and they noticed.
The Internet's most popular English language dictionary
is adding more than 300 new words and terms,
including Mom Jean.
lumber sexual and man spread.
The latest editions were selected on the basis of cultural relevance and search volume,
which means that it's somewhere out there.
People are apparently confused about the term,
athleisure.
Athleisure is a style of clothing inspired by athletic apparel,
but also worn as casual everyday wear.
but hurt, mental distress or irritation caused by an overreaction to a perceived personal slight.
Free-range parenting.
That seems like that should have been already in there.
A style of child rearing in which parents allow their children to move about without constant adult supervision
aimed at instilling independence and self-reliance.
That's been a while for that one.
A little late on that one.
Ghosting.
A practice of suddenly ending all contact with.
with a person without explanation, especially in a romantic relationship.
How many of you done that?
Raise your hand if you've actually ghosted out of a relationship before.
That's what I thought.
It's hard to do.
Lumber sexual.
I mean, hello.
A man whose style of dress and appearance is reminiscent of the ruggedly masculine stereotype of the lumberjack.
man spread.
I'll tell you what they think it is.
To sit with one's legs far apart, taking up too much space on a seat shared with other people.
And that's, I mean, we've talked about that before riding on trains and stuff.
You've got to make yourself bigger so that nobody sits next to you, right?
But on a lot of the trains, and I took the train, you know, out of Manhattan, you know, every day for, you know, quite a while.
And, you know, you A, have to think big.
Now, I'll grant you, I was already big.
But you've got to think bigger than the seat.
So that that first glance is there's, nobody's going to sit down next to you.
Now, there are plenty of times when the terrain is after full and you're going to end up having someone sit next to you.
And that's the way it is.
But for the most part, you've got to think big.
You've got to man spread.
You've got to put your briefcase down on the seat next to you.
You've got to put the laptop on your lap.
You've got to think big.
You've got to spread out so that, you know, nobody wants to sit next to you.
And it works.
It works.
Mom jeans.
Unstylish women's jeans.
Ooh.
I'm not sure.
I mean, those got to be right up there with the skinny jeans, right?
The mom jeans and the, oof.
NBD.
No big deal.
NBD.
No big deal.
L-O-L.
That felt loud.
And totes.
TOTES?
Totally.
You get one, two, three, four, five.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
So, totes saves you two.
Saves you two, two letters on your tweet.
So, I mean, maybe you need it sometimes.
Maybe you don't.
We're going to have to go through, I'm going to go have to go through the,
We're going to have to go take a look at the 300 and see what some of them actually are.
They might be good.
We might have to go through those next week because I am in love with some of these.
I mean, these new words, come on now.
We've been used it for quite some time.
And speaking of next week, I'm excited.
We're going to have, we're going to talk to Sandra Lanski and her son, the daughter,
and grandson of Myerlansky, you know, by gangster?
Oh, yeah.
There's a book, Daughter of the King, growing up in Gangland, which is fascinating.
And the grandson, I, you know, lives in Tampa.
They live in Tampa, of course.
I mean, Tampa was the big, you know, the big mob town for a long time.
And some say it still is.
and so it'll be fascinating to hear her and hear some of her tales of actually I mean
Marlonsky was the guy that was you know the money man in the heyday of the gangsters
and it'll be fascinating to see how she was raised
with the with the mob all around I'm sure it's just sit
down and shut up.
Sit down and shut up.
And this headline, I don't even want to read, I don't even want to go into it any deeper
than the headline, okay?
But I just want you to know that fat isn't nearly as bad for you as they thought.
Once again, we were told one thing.
The exact opposite is true.
And do I love to see headlines that say fat isn't as bad for you as we thought?
This is the Jeff Fisher Show.
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How are you?
Thanks for coming along for the ride today.
Now, this ties into the we are not, fat isn't as bad for you.
as we thought.
Did you realize that inquiries about male breast reduction surgery is up 65%?
65% in a year.
The number of men seeking breast reduction move jobs is going through the roof.
Now they tie it to more and more body conscious males are inquiring about operations to reduce the size of their breasts.
Wow.
Two-thirds are from 18 to 34 and the highest demand from men aged 25 to 34.
A gyna comastia official name is a common condition thought to affect 40% of men and the proportion appears to.
to be rising.
The condition can be provoked by an imbalance of sex hormones.
You know, isn't that all the stuff that we put in our milk and our food?
Could that have anything to do with it?
I wonder.
Hmm.
It can also be triggered by certain medication like antidepressants.
Are the prescriptions for those up?
I think so.
Heart and liver pills.
Hmm.
Cancer drugs.
Hmm.
Anabolic steroids.
Hmm.
Illegal drugs like cannabis.
All right.
Don't smoke pot.
It'll make you have man boobs.
Shut up.
Surgery can help remove excess fat from the breast.
Hopefully, you know, hopefully they're covered by insurance.
Anyway, it's up and I can tell you that over the last number of years, I have,
I personally have noticed an increase in man boobs.
And don't judge.
Don't judge.
Like, Jeff, what are you doing?
Look at a minute.
You can't help it.
All right.
If you want to feel good and bad about yourself, and I may have told you this last week, go to a water park.
If you'd like to feel good and bad about yourself all in the same, on the same day, same time, same place, go to a water park.
Because look to your left.
Oh, hey, look at that.
Man, do I not look that bad?
Look to your right.
Ooh, I look rough compared to that.
That's what happens all day long.
Okay.
But I have been to a water park where there was a.
a plethora of man boobs going on.
And, you know, hopefully they can get with their doctor and have that taken care of because,
ooh, man, it is not, just because I, just because I'm looking, doesn't mean that,
you know, I'm enjoying it.
Okay.
How many times have you asked yourself, I wonder if they're lying to me?
Are they telling me the truth?
Well, I'm going through some websites and just, you know, reading stories and this and that.
And I find on a site called Daily Entertainment 10 ways that you can tell if people are lying to you.
And I kind of look at it.
I remember there was a TV show, Lies or Lying, or whatever the heck it was.
And it was pretty cool because he was using, you know, in-depth technique.
But his in-depth technique really was, you know, him.
and what he learned, you know, being inside tribes and stuff in Africa and how to read people
and what goes on with their body when they're talking to you or when they're communicating with you.
And according to this list, you can tell if someone, you know, this might be an indicator with head movement.
Someone who is lying will often move their head suddenly in reaction to a question they're being asked.
They will sometimes move their head back, tilt their head a little bit to the side, or even bow their head slightly, almost as if they were feeling bad about what they were doing.
You watch for these kind of head movements just before a person is about to answer a question that has been asked of them.
So pay attention to head movement.
Breathing.
The breathing isn't quite as easy to pick up, so you may have to practice a bit to get good at spotting this signal.
Someone who is telling a lie will often begin to breathe a bit heavier.
You may be able to pick up on this by observing other changes that are triggered by the breathing.
They may raise their shoulders, sound of their voice may become a bit more shallow.
Changes in breathing are triggered by the nervousness and tension that a person experiences when they tell a lie.
Even if they're not aware of it themselves.
Well, and that was the whole thing behind, and that's the whole thing behind videotaping interviews with possible criminals, potential criminals.
and testimony from people about whatever the case is.
So you can videotape it and see what they act like when they're answering, you know,
size shoe do you wear?
And whether they're answering, did you see Mary last night before she was murdered?
And those are the two exact questions you get asked right in a row.
What size shoe do you wear?
When's the last time you saw Mary before she was murdered?
On the other hand, stillness.
Stillness may be able to tell if a person is lying because of their lack of movement
because it's natural for people to move when they're talking.
You know, we talk to each other.
We kind of move around a little bit and you know the person.
And, you know, it's better to know them, right?
I mean, it's easier to tell if someone is lying to you when you know them.
Because you're familiar with their, and that's what we're talking about the film.
You're able to go back and look because if you know them, you know, well, he never does that.
Or he only does that when he's lying.
Repeating things.
Sometimes lying will prompt people to repeat certain things as if they're really trying to drive home.
a point. It's probably because they're attempting to convince themselves that what they're saying is true.
It's a way they can validate their lies in their own mind. It's also quite possible that repeating
things over and over could be used as a delaying tactic. They hope it will provide them more
time to organize their thoughts. Too much information is another way that you can tell if someone
is lying to you. Someone who is lying will sometimes go to extremes to provide information
and details that go beyond what was asked of them.
right and in their own mind it makes them more believable if they provide extra information
and show that they're willing to provide lots of information when queried
covering and touching very easy way to tell if someone may be lying as seeing them
touch or even cover their mouth with their hand this is a subconscious reaction that
demonstrates that they are being forced to deal with the subject they are not
comfortable with it's an easy way to spot a liar because they're demonstrating
that they don't want to tell the truth about something.
Okay.
Number seven, more covering in addition to their moves and cover their mouths,
liars will often cover up areas of their body that are instinctively vulnerable.
They sometimes make moves to cover areas of their head, their throat, abdomen, chest.
It may seem a bit odd, but these are the same areas which someone may want to cover
before engaging in physical combat.
It all goes back to the primitive instincts that we all have to protect ourselves
when we feel that we're engaged in dangerous or risky behavior.
The liar shuffle.
Sometimes someone is telling you a lie,
a tendency to shuffle their feet.
Another reaction to the discomfort.
Well, that's the movie, right?
The covering and touching.
We're covering the moving around, a little fidgety.
Loss for words.
Lying sets off a whole slew of events in the body,
and a lot of them are fueled by nervousness.
Now, this can cause the mouth to become dry.
It'll make speech more difficult.
It's something that is likely to worsen a longer person continues to tell the lies.
Some people also display a tendency to bite their lip when they're lying.
Yeah, I mean, those are the tells, right?
I mean, you've got to know the person, as we, you know, talked about earlier.
You've got to kind of know those are the tells of someone is lying.
Blinking, we all blink our eyes frequently without even having to think about it.
It helps to keep our eyes lubricated and free-reformed objects.
Some liars, particularly those that make our eyes.
career out of it.
Anyone like that.
Know that blinking too often looks suspicious
and sometimes they will overcompensate
by maintaining eye contact with someone
they are lying to and not blinking.
They also use it as a way to control,
manipulate, and intimidate.
But that might backfire.
You know, to look for you.
Yeah, I mean, these really are, you know,
good tips on ways to tell if someone
is lying to you.
but really it's more importantly to just kind of pay attention to who you're talking to
and what they're doing when they're talking to you.
Very simple.
And if you know the person, you get a pretty good idea if they're telling you the truth or not.
If you don't know the person, it makes it just a little bit harder.
And you have to kind of believe in them.
And if you believe in them, I'm sure it's harder to believe that they're actually lying to
you. Right? Of course. Now, I don't know about you, but I am looking forward to the Olympics.
My feet just shuffled. I didn't blink my eyes. I covered my mouth and my throat and my chest.
And I'm kind of dry and I'm looking the other way and now I'm staring right at you.
I am looking forward to the Olympics. Whoa. Man, am I looking forward to the Olympics?
I'm not. The only thing that's going to make this Olympics worth watching, and this is
wow is this sad because we want to see how bad it's going to be in Brazil.
Now the Olympics usually always pull it off, right?
I mean, that's what they do.
They whine and cry and they're never going to make it,
and they're up against the bag, up against the clock,
and they're never going to make it.
And boy, look how crappy it is, and then they pull it off.
So what you see is this beautiful Olympic thing.
And you hear about, you know, two hotels that didn't have any beds
and the walls weren't done,
but there were a place for people to sleep and everything.
was fine.
But Brazil is really struggling, getting ready for these Olympics.
None the least of which to worry about is the Zika virus, right?
And they are, you know, there's plenty.
I mean, you're not even talking about the Soviet Union.
I mean, Russia, you know, getting their people banned and arguing over that deal.
And a lot of people saying, they're not going.
We're not going to go to Brazil.
I'm not going.
And then there's people that are going.
Like the story I read about Hope Solo, she's packing, you know, the story is she's packing an insane amount of bug repellent.
Well, good for you, Hope.
I mean, that's a good idea.
But good luck, God bless.
I hope you don't fall in the river.
I mean, it's going to be, I am looking forward to the Olympics, man.
Oh, I cannot wait.
And then, speaking of the Zika virus, the first baby with Zika-related.
birth defect born in New York City.
Yay!
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Chris El Sato coming up right after this broadcast on the Blaze Radio Network.
I'm sure he'll have some thoughts about the Republican
convention that took place last week.
I'm sure he'll have some more thoughts about the Democratic convention coming up this coming
week.
I'm sure he'll have some thoughts about the 18-year-old gunman who killed nine people in Munich.
And according to this report, was obsessed with mass shootings.
But German police say had no known links to Islamic State Group.
Okay.
Good.
That's why how the French terrorist in Nice was a...
lone wolf until now we know he was working for over a year and had five or six accomplices
and probably more to come on that.
But don't you worry about this 18-year-old government who killed nine people in Munich.
And I think four or five of them were kids because it was by a McDonald's.
And there were reports that he hacked a Facebook page for McDonald's and invited a bunch of
people to come down for free dinner so he could get more kids.
there to kill.
Nice guy. And there were also
witnesses who said he was
yelling Ali Akbar as he was
killing them.
Oh, I know. I know
just because someone yells that doesn't make them
affiliated with any terrorist
group or religious affiliation.
Man, I mean,
I don't think I'm
judging at all when I talk
about that because I'm not
ever.
Okay.
Now, this, take this with you for the week.
I want you to think about this.
People don't listen to you.
You want people to listen to you.
And I just want you to listen.
That's all.
That's all I want.
I just want you to listen, honey.
I know I may have said it a thousand times and repeated myself over and over again.
But to me, it's like the first time.
And I just want you to listen to me, okay?
I know you've, I know you don't want to listen to the same thing over and over and over again.
but I just want you to listen to me.
In Japan, coming to America soon,
you can rent a person to come and sit and just listen.
The people who rent me are just asking me to keep them company for an hour or two
and just listen.
Isn't that special?
You can rent someone to just listen to you.
You know, as I read this, it makes me think that,
Huh, that's almost prostitution.
No, no, no, no.
You kidding me?
Oh, man, Jeff, you are dumb.
Thanks for coming along for the ride today.
Appreciate it.
You look great today, by the way.
I didn't have a chance to tell you yet, but you do.
You look great.
Except, oh, man, you're not going to wear what you're wearing all day, are you?
Ooh.
Okay, looks good on you.
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