Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 146 | 20 Tons of Cocaine Found, A New Korean Boy Band? & Suing AOC | Guest: Dov Hikind

Episode Date: July 11, 2019

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Welcome to it. Chewing the Fat with yours truly Jeff Fisher. Part of the show today, I had an opportunity to talk to Dove Heikin, who is the former New York City assembly. Already? One second. You don't even know what I'm talking to him about. Right of the gate, baby. He just comes swinging hard. You don't even know what I'm talking to him about.

And stop playing the music. Seriously, mute it for just a second. Don't play it because during this interview, if we play the music, that's all you're going to hear. because it does get quite a bit political. But he's a good man and he's a former New York State Assemblyman and he's part of a lawsuit that's suing Alexandria Acacio-Cortez. And see what I mean that if we let the music play, that's all you were going to hear.

And so he's suing her over the Twitter account and being blocked from her on Twitter. And we talk about the, you know, President Trump's, the lawsuit that says that he can't block. and we cover it all. And we also cover quite a bit of the political uppity-ups in Washington now that are Democrats because he's a Democrat. Anyway, that's part of the show today is an interview with Dev. And he's a fascinating, really, really good man.

And I'll just leave it with if you are a fan of AOC, you may. May not like this interview. So, just listen to the other stories that we're going to do before we talk to Dove. I still want you to download the show. It's just chorus. By the way, you notice how hot she is with that red lipstick? Dove?

No, AOC. Oh. Or Dove. I don't know what he does on his spare time. But that real lipstick on Ocasio Ocasio Ocas, Ocas, o'Kess. Hot. But then she talks Eh, it's fine

You just put more red lipstick in it You know, there's an old saying about red lipstick You can The old saying, what is the old saying Anyway, I can't even remember The old saying of you can, oh, I know You can You can dress up a pig

But it's still a pig I didn't have anything to do a lipstick I don't think of it before You can put lipstick on a pig It was still a big Right? You can put a lipstick on a pig It was still a big Yeah

So I have to talk about this story That's been on my mind since last night I cannot stop thinking about this story Me too dude Like how McDonald's is trying to get a chicken sandwich In order to be Chick-fil-A That's source in my mind Since I read it yesterday

That's not the story No, that's not the story There's no way in hell That is anything more important that McDonald's aren't getting a chicken sandwich in order to be Chick-fil-A because Chick-Filley is on the top three fast food chains in the United States. McDonald's, Starbucks, Chick-fil-A,

and McDonnells wants to keep it. I got news for you, McDonald's. It ain't just the chicken sandwich, baby. Okay? You can go ahead and sell your chicken sandwich and you'll sell a few million and you'll get people to eat them when they're there, but you're not going to knock back Chick-fil-A.

It's not going to happen because it's not just about the chicken sandwich. Okay. Just letting you know. You should have called me. We could have talked. It's okay that you got the chicken sandwich, but don't market it as, hey, we've got a new spicy chicken sandwich and you don't need to go to Chick-fil-A anymore because then Chick-fil-A will be busier than ever.

And that's just the way it is. And by the way, I heard your little list there, McDonald's, Starbucks. Every year they put out that list of fast food restaurants, and every year I ask the same question. Why is Starbucks on that list? Thank you. Starbucks has never and will never be a fast food chain. I don't understand why they're on that list.

But I do know this. Because they got a drive-through and they- No, that does not make your fast food. Yeah, well, they got a drive-through and they sell. When I go. They sell their little. I'll have a double cheeseburger plane. That'll be $2 first window.

They sell their little cake pops and then you go to the second, third window. And then like, here's your sandwich. Okay, thank you. Hey, I forgot napkins. What the hell? Open the door. Yeah, no, you're gone. You're already out of the drive.

You're sorry, that's where it goes. So, no. Swig back around. Yes, no. But I'm sorry, that is not. And by the way, did you see, I know, I'm no, I'm not, but I talk about you, sorry. But did you see that now Uber delivers Starbucks? So today I went to buy McDonald's because I didn't want to leave the studios because I was waiting for a phone call.

And I go open my app. First pop up, Starbucks. Oh, yeah. Does that mean Starbucks has dumped a bunch of cash for them? Come on. It's the first one. We want the first one up. And the near Starbucks, it's like five miles away.

The McDonald's just right across the street. Yeah, the starbucks right next to the over there by the bluefin. Is that the closest one? That's the closest one. Yeah, that's probably good. Yeah, it's that way. But anyways. Doesn't the Kroger have one in it?

I don't go to Kroger. I'm an Aldi guy. Okay. I don't ever tell me that again because that's ridiculous if that's actually true. I mean, I stop turn your mic off. We're done with you. You're done. But I believe the Kroger has a Starbucks.

That's a little, and they're probably about the same distance, actually, and how they think about it. But, okay, here's the story that's been on my mind since last night. And now you know, a couple of things from this story. Some people are already dead, will be dead.

Some people will be going to jail. Some big people and some big named people will be going to jail over the story. And it's amazing that it happened. I mean, I'm shocked. Shocked. Okay? So the U.S. authorities in Philadelphia have seized a cargo vessel.

They seized it in June. And we heard them talk about seizing the cargo vessel in June. And it said they seized the cargo vessel and they found a bunch of cocaine. All right. And I forget what the original amount was that they said they found. But now they say they found 20 tons of cocaine. 20 tons of cocaine. You can't even fathom how much cocaine that is.

You talk about the guy getting busted at the border with three kilos. That's the guy that's supposed to get caught. Okay? This ship is the ship that makes it. These cargo vessels sit on the docks until they're needed. St. Louis is running low on cocaine. They send in the semi and off it goes. New Orleans.

They just got through with the hurricane. Tropical Storm Barry just put them out. They're going to need some cocaine. Send in a semi from Philly. That's what I mean, I cannot believe 20 tons of cocaine. Now they've also now seized the vessel. They've taken the vessel. The government's saying,

we're going to take the ship's ours too. And it belongs to J.P. Morgan Chase. All right. They have a shipping company that they control. Somebody is

really in trouble. This is the kind of stuff that I mean, that's a lot of drugs. I mean, I don't know if you heard me, but there's 20 tons of cocaine. I just, I can't get it out. I mean, that's so much, that's so much

cocaine. I mean, I wish this was some smoking cocaine. It doesn't really sound like that. This is more pot. I mean, I'm okay with free basin, but it doesn't sound that way. You got to, when you're free base, you've got to have the really thin. I'll tell you, if you have free basin, I just know this from reading it in a book. But you have to use really thin screens, and you use about three of them because when you first like cocaine, it doesn't go up and smoke, it liquefies.

So you have to drop it down. drops down the screens until it turns into smoke and then you inhale it. Do you have any cocaine stories? I'm sorry? Do you have any cocaine stories of... You know, we always, let's say when we bring a story about Florida, you always have Florida stories. When we bring stories about, you know, trying to get free money, you have stories about

that. We're talking about cocaine. Do you have any stories about cocaine? I know you're asking you this because I told you one the other day. And I wish you could say that. story Jeff Fisher. So I just know that, just know that it's not, A, that's not my story. All right.

It's a story that I heard about. Did you see the footage? Probably. Of the Coast Guard, speaking of cocaine, busting the sub with cocaine on it. You know how the, you know, the cartel uses subs in the Gulf of the South. Yeah. There's footage and we'll air it tomorrow morning on Pat Unleashed.

All right. So I won't look at it all until tomorrow morning. I mean, you can look at it early, but we're going to talk. You know, we'll air and talk about tomorrow. I'll feel weird if you do that. Well, then wait. That's what I said. I'm going to wait.

They show them hunting down these boats that are there to connect with the sub. The guy jumps on the top of the sub and starts opening up the hatch on the sub and gets the people out of the sub. I'm sorry. No? That's an easy way. Right? I mean, he's armed, and the Coast Guard's got helicopters flying over. Still.

If I'm in that sub, I'm going down. Yes. I'm going down. You're swimming. You're swimming, Mr. Coast Guard swimmer. Dive, dive, dive, dive. You aren't lying. Now, they probably say it in sports dive in Spanish.

Dive, dive, dive. So that's what you'll hear. And they probably don't know how to do that. Yeah. They're probably just a guy going, just keep it low. Just keep the hatch above water. You'll be fine. They just can't see that.

Don't worry, but they will not see it. the big asses above water. Going through the water. Can we put a shark fin on this? Maybe, I don't know. But they guess what they spotted it? So in Spanish, you would hear. Dive, dive, dive.

Let's go to the break room. I need a Coca-Cola zero-sugar desperately. Okay, I'm going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein for just a second. As I'm recording the podcast, I look up and I see the Epstein's team is proposing a $77 million bail package. If ever there was a flight risk, it's this guy. Do not give him bail. And they just captured him when he was coming back from a trip.

Right. They captured him at Teterboro in New Jersey. That's where all the private planes land and fly out of. And all the New York, Manhattan people, they go into Jersey, Teterboro. That's where the private planes go. And if you think that this guy isn't going to disenfranchise you think that this guy isn't going to disappear for $77 million. Do you think the powers that B behind this guy is aren't already, they've got,

they've already got a $100 million package ready to go for his bail. Here's your $100 million. Goodbye. I mean, A, if he wants to live, he's going to go. He's going to be gone. And his assistant, if she wants to live, she needs to go to. I mean, goodbye. No doubt.

I mean, I don't, I don't want them to die, clearly. I want them to face trial. And I want them to go into the dirtbag courtroom and be in face a jury. Now, he's uppity enough to think. The jury of my peers is what is supposed to be. None of these people are my peers. That's right. They're not dirtbags like you.

But if you think that 77 million, bucks is going to keep this guy around you are sadly mistaken sadly mistaken all right so we're in the break room uh guanith paltrow this story's been was given to me i've been sitting here for a couple of days uh guinth paltrow you know where you love her uh she uh she claims that uh her butt is not great it's not i mean okay she she thinks hers isn't up to par exactly she needs to fix that and a workout session uh as part of goop's first UK summit. Oh, so she's trying to sell her stupid coop.

And that's all she does. That's the whole deal now. What's that? Jaded eggs. The eggs? Yeah, that's what it hurt the butt. Oh. Think about that for just a second.

Put him through there. But my butt is not great at the moment. I was just in Italy and I totally picked out on pasta. Oh, is that the reason? Is that the reason? Yeah. Me too, Guineth. Jeffrey, did you go to Italy too?

Because your butt does not look great right now. I totally picked out on pasta. Because your butt does not look great. I know. Now, this isn't me. All right. And I have not seen Gwynas Bought outside of clothing. You haven't?

No. I'll send you a link. Really? Yeah, I'll send you link. I mean, I'm sure there's photos. And maybe I have actually, and I just don't remember because I'll send you a refresher. I would not look if there was a picture of it. Oh, I know, I know.

But I'll send you a refresher. But a lot of people who, let's say, go to Italy and pay, out, hey, you end up looking like cauliflower, really. No. The butt looks like cauliflower. I'm not saying hers does, but cheese and pasta. Pasta sauce. Yeah, it's cauliflower.

I'm about to go to Italy like next spring. Like, is my butt going to look like cauliflower? In other news. If you want to see someone you know is in a hotel and you go, I know they're staying in a hotel. And I want to meet them. Because a lot of stars check in hotels, but they check in under 8. Alias. Sudo names, whatever you want to call them, but they're not their star names.

Yeah. So in London, the boy band, the Korean boy band. Oh, BTS. Was staying in London and they're on tour. And a fan wanted to see them. So... By the way, they have some weird fans, too. They're like crazy.

about the BTS boys. And this is a BTS. This is NCT 127. Oh, I don't know them. Wow, are you? BTS is the only people. I'm a BTS army right here. Right, I know.

But I thought it was too, but now as I'm reading it's the NCT 127. It's a knockoff. It's a knockoff. I mean, they're on a world tour. So they deserve whatever they're coming because I feel like she did something wrong to them. Yeah, but they felt in holding a red hot concert.

Okay, I mean, the Korean boy band thing is just, that's their selling point now. But, BTS is the one. Yes. Yeah, BTS Army, who? So, NCT 127 was staying in London. And by the way, what is with his bands like that? Can we give him real names? BTS, NCT 7567?

Like, what is all this? Well, I don't know about NCT 7567. That's a new one. They're not on tour yet, but this group is 127. Anyway, the people wanted to see them so they pulled the fire alarm. Oh, come on, man. That's smart thinking there. Smart thinking there had to come out.

So if I think one of someone I want to see is at a hotel, I just pulled the fire alarm. That's all you got to do. Everybody has to evacuate. Everyone was panicking, including us. My son, the NCT and their staff. Their staff? Shut up. You don't have a staff.

NCT 127 does. I don't know about NCT. 7257. It's my new airport line. So the other day I did a story about the scientists who are attempting to open a portal to a parallel universe. I did this on Pan Unleashed. I don't think I did it on this show.

You did not. I love the story. It's fascinating. You're welcome. So the, you know, I appreciate you doing your job. Appreciate it. I mean, that's what the network pays you for. I just wanted the audience to know that I give you good stories.

Thanks for listening. Oh no, no, no, come on, come on, come on. I'll show us over. We've got an interview to do. Do you not going to do it? Can you please do it? I forgot. Come on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

You know what? I want to apologize to you, to the audience. I've embarrassed him. I'm embarrassed myself. So I want to apologize. So scientists are attempting to open a portal to a parallel universe. And if you go back and listen to Chewing the Fat on Pat on Leaf, I go into exactly why that this is happening.

And one of the reasons that it's happening is because the two separate experiments saw that neutrons broke down at differing rates. Now, I'm not trying to talk down to you. I know most of you already know this, but some of you don't. So I just want you to know that. And so it was such a surprise that they broke down at different rates. And in fact, one of them took nine seconds longer. to break down. And so the scientists were like,

yo, what is that? Something is happening. So they believe that this could be the existence of a mirror world. And so they're going to try to make it happen, especially with the two separate neuron lifetimes, neutron lifetimes. I mean,

it's amazing. Now they expect it to be zero, right? But another thing that this existence of a mirror world could also explain is our universes, and again, again, I'm not talking down to you. I'm just talking to the people that don't know this. Would explain the universe's lack of isotope lithium-7. I know.

I know you've said to yourself for years, well, yeah, duh. Of course. So they're telling us that there could be a mirror world. Haven't you ever seen the show Fringe on TV? Hello, the Fox Show Fringe, great show. Great show. They had the mirror universe. Absolutely.

the mirrored universe had to still have the giant balloons flying over it. All right. So anyway, and they had the bald guy that was. It was kind of like a goldish color. Yeah, it was a little off. Yeah, it's a little off. So then I get a tweet, and if Twitter weren't down, I would tell you the exact verbiage of the tweet,

but I will tell you the exact information from the tweet, that many people and a guy that I've wanted to talk to on this show, who Mr. I'm the greatest producer, get the greatest stories ever, supposed to get the guests on the show, hasn't gotten is my Bigfoot guy. They said they're going to come. Have they been on the show?

They say they're going to come. I cannot force them. I cannot force them. Well, there you go. They said they were going to come. I can't force them. They say I have a full production schedule. Do you want me to stop their production schedule to come to the show?

Yes. Okay, I'll do that. Many believe that we already have the mirrored universe open. And that's where Bigfoot comes from. Don't look at me like that. Don't do it. Don't do it. Is that Dove Heiken on the line?

You're going to be angry in a second, though. Okay. Are you ready for me to make you angry? Go right ahead. Okay. Joining me on Chewing the Fat today is Dove Heikin. Dove is the New York Assemblyman who is suing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez over this whole Twitter blocking camera. campaign that the courts have told Donald Trump he can't block people, which I kind of agree with.

And but however, Alexandria is a busy blocking people. And Dove is a very unhappy man about that. However, I just went to your Twitter feed, Dove. And it keeps telling me something went wrong, try again. So I don't know if you have been knocked off a Twitter. I don't know if Twitter has done something to you, but your account will not come up. Well, thank you for mentioning that it's the first time I hear this, and obviously we'll take a look at it as soon as I get that opportunity after this interview. I mean, I'm willing to have a take a look at it right now on the air.

No, no, that's fine. I can I can live without being on Twitter for five minutes or by the way the Twitter account is at Heikin Dove H-I-K-K-I-N-D-O-V a verified account but for some reason it doesn't come up so I just I'm just pushing your buttons okay so I appreciate you coming on no no thank you very much I yeah oh please it's my pleasure so you also are are you the founder or at least the head of Americans against anti-Semitism Well, I am the founder. Okay.

Fantastic. You know, in light of everything that's going on these days, unprecedented, I have never seen anything like it. You know, anti-senitism, racism. It's something that's part of, you know, society and something that you always have there to one extent or another. But the numbers speak for themselves. What's going on in the country, in New York, in particular, of all places, sort of out of control. And a lot of people are very, very concerned. You know, it's, uh, they should be.

Yeah, in my lifetime, I mean, 36 years in the New York State Assembly, uh, prior to that being very active, uh, I have never seen anything like this. And when, when you have people that, uh, I come into contact constantly who truly are afraid in terms of what's happened in the past, is this a sign? Does this mean something is going wrong? Now, I like to reassure people and say, no, that's not the case. But people are concerned. You know, when you have attacks on Jews,

just because they are Jews. I'm sure you've seen some of the video of, you know, some young person just belting someone who was Hasidic, someone who was clearly Jewish, just belting them for no reason, just, I don't know, some kind of deep hatred, young people indulging in this kind of behavior. Something is definitely, definitely wrong.

Well, I mean, what a... No question. And look, well, before we get into the, you know, the main reason, that I had you on with your lawsuit against Cortez and blocking people on Twitter. You know, let's talk a little bit. We can even bring Cortez into this conversation as well with her misrepresenting, you know, detention centers as, you know, the Holocaust concentration camps.

Right. Never again. Yeah. It is stunning, stunning the stupidity. You know, it's more stunning even than that. even, you know, her horrible, insensitive, cruel remarks that she made. By the way, uneducated, uneducated, I guarantee you, you know, I keep on saying this, I want a reporter to ask her a question.

What's the last book you've read on the Holocaust? I guarantee you, I guarantee you she has never read a book on the Holocaust. I guarantee it. That number is zero. There's no freaking clue. So what's worse than people like AOC and some of the other winners of the time of these days, like a whole group of them. Yes. What's worse than those people who indulge in anti-Semitism hate, hate for America, you know, they're members of Congress for God's sake.

Right. You know, they swore an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America. Exactly. And they're busy undermining this country at every single opportunity. every single opportunity. What's worse than these individuals is the silence and the lack of reaction by good, decent people who are not being so good and decent by not speaking out. Well, I mean, that's something that's been... I'm talking about Democrats in particular.

That's been said all along, though, right? I mean, we've been told for years, you know, not speaking is speaking. I mean, that's just the way it is. That's... Oh, absolutely. There's a concept in... Judaism, you know, when you're silent, it is literally acquiescing and agreeing to what is being said. And that's the point. That's what's scary. When you have the nablers of the world who all he does, I mean, the man lives 24 hours a day just directed towards the president of the United States to undermine the president. It's amazing.

He represents one of the largest Jewish constituencies, silent. By the way, I mean, this is. sad, you know, I don't know whether to laugh or cry, but when AOC made those remarks about concentration camps and never, you use the word never again, it was incredibly Jerry Nathler, my congressman in Brooklyn, who defended that in the most vile way. I mean, it was strange, I got to tell you, it was, but it was politics. And when we play politics with hate, with anti-Semitism, that's when we're in trouble. When we don't do the right thing, Chuck Schumer, Schumer, Schumer,

Schumer. I mean, one of the most powerful members of the Congress, I don't know if you're aware of this, but Schumer, for the past 25 years, every synagogue, every Jewish group that he visits, and I've heard this at least a hundred times, he tells the crowd, same line, same story, you know, doesn't change the routine. He says, you know what my name Schumer means? He asks the crowd. And then he begins to explain, the word Schumer means in Hebrew, showmer the word showmer means watcher and he goes on to tell the people for the past 25 years i am the showmer the watcher of the jewish people are you now can you find him anywhere are you can you find him anywhere can you know every sunday for the past 20 years the man holds a press conference in new york every sunday by monday you don't even know what the press conference was on sunday what the subject was but it's every week 52 weeks a year, the guy has a press conference that no one ever follows, hey, does anything happen from that press conference?

I'm waiting for him to have a press conference on the issues of the day about the hate, the anti-Semitism, the racism, what's going on. I mean, I'm waiting for him to react to Omar, to Talade, to AOC, not a sound, not a word. Not a word. I know. It's almost, they almost, it appears that they're running scared a little bit. Look, they let them in. Look, I know, look, I know you're a Democrat and I'm not, you know, I try to, we've gotten really political and I'm good with it 100%.

Normally I try to shy away from politics here on this podcast just because I'm still tired of talking about it every day. And so this podcast at least gives me a little reprieve from that. But it's, it's amazing to me that, you know, they let these left reaching Democrats, these crazy people into the party because they wanted the votes and they wanted the power. And now that they're losing it, that's what you get. Yeah. Isn't it pretty remarkable? I mean, you've got to sit by and smile and laugh.

You know, that AOC, I mean, literally calls the speaker Pelosi a racist. Right. I mean, don't you love it? You're kidding me. I mean, so they call that, you know, when they disagree with Trump, he's a racist. but now Nancy Pelosi who is pretty much to the left I mean San Francisco

for God's sake Now she's the bad one She's the racist And you know what She deserves all the change She's darn right she does I have a real hard time Feeling sorry for her

I get it And you couldn't you could You would never believe That Nancy Pelosi was going to be To the right of her party But But that She's become

She's become the moderate. Yeah. But she's at fault. You know, when Omar... You're damn right she is. Yeah. When Omar indulged in violent anti-Semitism, I mean, talking about the Benjamin's, talking about due loyalty. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that Goebbels in Nazi Germany was very good at.

And when she indulged in that conversation, and Nancy Pelosi said, as the speaker, as the speaker said, tomorrow, I'll never forget those words, tomorrow we are going to, pass a resolution condemning Omar. Do you remember that? I do. I do. How'd that resolution turn out, by the way? It turned out to be a farce. A joke.

That's interesting. Contraproductive, you know, the whole nine yards, because it never happened. That's right. If Nancy Pelosi had stood her ground then, if she had done the right thing then, she wouldn't be suffering right now. Can I tell you something? I hope she continues to suffer. I know.

I know. And listen, your boy, your boy, Nadler and all of them, I mean, they continue to, I don't know, seriously, and maybe you know better than I, and I kind of know the answer, really. It's just kind of a question about, you know, the overall picture of it. But these people who are supposed to be representing their districts are not representing their districts. And they've done nothing but try to bring down the government of the United States their entire term. how are they possibly going to be reelected? Well, some of these districts, take Navler, who interestingly has an opponent, as so happens, a very attractive young, articulate woman. Edler is such a good-looking man, Dove. So, I mean, he's gorgeous, I know.

But she's to the left of him. She's to the left of him. Right. That's amazing. And you know what? we just send a message to Nadler today. Don't come looking for votes in Brooklyn. Don't come looking for votes in the more conservative areas of your district, because he's going to be in for a tough fight.

You know, Nadler, who's trying to do everything right but wrong, right? I mean, every single issue he is off in left field, progressive plus plus, plus. Isn't it amazing, I mean, God's justice, that he has a race. I mean, that is incredible. You know, some of these people would start doing the right thing. Now look, you know, put your finger up and see how the wind is blowing. Should I speak out? Should I stand up for what's right?

Of course. Or is it politically I need to, you know, continue doing what I'm doing, being a progressive. You know, do what you think is right for God's sake. And unfortunately, people like Nadler, forget it. I mean, I can't wait for that race to happen. Because he's going to be coming to our communities, some of my communities. By the way, I just want to point out it. Even as a Democrat, I've endorsed many Republicans in my life, probably more than anyone in the state of New York.

And I've got to tell you that Donald Trump did only about 78% or 75% in my district in last election when he ran for president. And it is the Democratic district. So let me ask you a question. The first thing that pops into my mind, Dove is, why are you? Democrat. So look, I grew up my family, like a lot of other Democrats, you know, grew up. My parents were Democrats. My parents came to this country from the Holocaust. You know, I pointed out to AOC when she talked about concentration camps. I wanted to give her a little bit of a lesson of what a concentration camp is.

I don't think you were alone on that. Okay. But my mother went to Auschwitz in 1944 with her family, rounded up from a place in in Czechoslovakia. When, you know, got on the cattle cars where by the time you got to Auschwitz, many people on that cattle car were dead. We're already dead. Exactly. Precisely. My mother went with her mother, nephew's niece and sisters.

Most of them, the day they arrived in Auschwitz, went straight to the gas chambers. Straight to the gas chambers. That's a concentration camp. Thank you. People were worked to death. That's a concentration camp. People were experimented on by the likes of Mangala and other. German doctors. That's a concentration camp. And by the way, they were brought there against

their will. That's a concentration camp. Oh, my God, against their will. I mean, to talk about concentration camp and about never again. And what does she do? She does this, makes this horrible, these horrible statements. The Wieson Fault Center, the Holocaust Museum in Washington, the people there, all over the country, people say this is wrong this is not right what does she do instead of being sensitive instead of having brains for god's sake

you know she doubles down you know that's what she's done the last couple of weeks it's worked for down yeah it's it's she believes it works for well let me tell you the you know this challenge even with the twitter is something uh you know i you know i'm sure you've watched the media coverage from the washington post of new york times You know, she's on the defensive on this, and it may be the first time she's on the defensive since she got elected.

You know, so look, to me, it's, you know, I know who she is and what she's all about. This is a woman who believes that she is an expert on every subject and that facts don't matter. She does not want to be confused with facts. She's been treated that way, though. See, I mean, she's been treated that way almost probably her entire life. but I mean she's been treated that way for sure the last couple of years as, you know, okay, she's the expert and just say what you want to say. Yeah.

Yeah. And an expert on what? Expert on what? I don't know. Working in a bar, working in a bar, mixing a drink. I agree. No, does she not? I mean, she actually, now technically, she has a degree, right, from Boston University, right?

Okay. So, I mean. But that doesn't make her an expert on any. No, it does not. You know, it takes 29, she's 29 years old, and I'm a little older than her, many years older. And the one thing, the one thing that I've learned in my life and continue to learn every single day is how much I don't know. Boy, no kidding. And how much I know.

And the more I read, and I read constantly, constantly, I read a book every three days. I'm not kidding. Don't talk down to me, don't. Don't talk down to me with you reading the book every couple of days, all right? I'm telling you. I'm telling you. But let me tell you what my point is. My point is I'm still learning.

I'll be the first one to admit to you that, yeah, I think I'm a smart guy, but, boy, is there a lot more to learn. But she behaves as if on every single issue. Think about it. Go to every single issue. She's the expert. I heard removing me from, you know, blocking me on Twitter. I mean, what was that all about?

I mean, it isn't like I'm going to lose any sleep, you know. you know, her blocking me. But why is she afraid of me? Right. Why would she waste her? She's got millions of followers who supposedly love her. So you have dope hiking and, you know, I have never crossed the line in terms of anything I've said on Twitter, but I take her to task. I deal with the facts, which definitely bothers her. Why would she take the time, this great heroin to so many? Why would she take the time to block me? God's sake, what's she afraid of? Well, and that's interesting because that's the same kind of argument I would have for Donald Trump as well. Just what does it matter, Mr. President Trump?

Just stop. Look, I agree with you. I agree. Look, it's not always pleasant. People on Twitter can be. Of course they are. You know, it's one thing to have arguments on issues. Sometimes people, oh my God, I don't have to tell you.

People can be so hateful, so vile, so disgusting. So you want to sort of lock them out. But when you're a government official, and now the courts have clearly ruled, I mean, this is... I agree with that ruling. Yeah, so I mean, look, look, if you're going to be an elected official, now there's no issue. And by the way, what I love about this, and I look forward to if we ever get to court, is that this is going to apply to every single election official. Yes, thank you.

I love it. I do. I love it. So what is your ultimate desire? with suing AOC and being blocked from her Twitter account? What's the ultimate outcome that you want? I think the ultimate is to be unblocked and also the message that we are sending, the opportunity to say all the things that I've been saying,

the national and international coverage that we've gotten on the issue, on the points about AOC. You know, I want to be part of the debate. I want to be part of the discussion. and AOC and no elected officials should be afraid of that. So my goal is to be unblocked and to enjoy every single moment until that happens. And by the way, just as a side down, because she unblocks you or Donald Trump unblocks you, doesn't mean they have to read what you say.

It just amazes me that because they don't have you blocked, they feel like they they have to read what you say. No, guess what? You are so right, but, you know, logic is not always the determining factor in a lot of these things. There's a knee-jerk reaction. You know, we don't like dove hyken. We don't like this one or that one.

But just, let's just block him. It's silly, it's stupid, it's counter-bord. And let me tell you, I guarantee you AOC tonight regrets the move she made in blocking me. Wow. I hope that's true. I don't know that it is. I think so. I mean, this doesn't benefit her in any single fashion.

And I'm enjoying every single moment, and she's not happy with that. As long as she, if she's not happy with it, I'm enjoying it right along with you. You got it. You got it. Exactly. Dove Hekin, uh, joining us here on Chewing the Fat and talked a little bit about, uh, a little bit about, uh, the overall coverage of, uh, anti-Semitism in our United States government. and the Twitter blocking of President Trump and AOC. And he is the founder of Americans against anti-Semitism

and former New York City Assemblyman. Dove, thank you very much for joining me. I appreciate you very much. It's an absolute pleasure. You're a good man. Keep up the strong fight. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.

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