Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 16 | Headlines We Love | Guest: Elizabeth Pipko

Episode Date: January 28, 2019

Jeffy covers the Ted Bundy NETFLIX special and talks to Maxim model Elizabeth Pipko living a double life as a Trump supporter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, no way. So I'm looking at the television screen and I see where they're saying that El Chapo might take the stand in his trial. That would be amazing. I mean, it'll never happen because if he takes the stand, he'll be talking about, yeah, I gave the ex-president of Mexico $100 million. I gave this senator $50 million to his campaign. I gave this senator $50 million, this congressman, this congressman. There's no way he takes the stand. I'll tell you what would happen if he takes the stand.
Starting point is 00:00:33 The defense stands up and says, yes, Your Honor, the defense calls. Joaquin Achivaldo-Gusman Loera. So if they call him to the stand, if the defense calls him to the stand, which, you know, obviously that's the only way he takes the stand, if they call him to the stand. It won't happen. And that's just speculation. But if it were to happen, you would stand up in front of the judge and say, Your Honor, the defense calls.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Joaquin Ashibaldo Cusman Loera to the stand and he'll get about halfway to the witness stand today in New York courtroom Del Chappo shot dead he will never take the stand they would know
Starting point is 00:01:15 they will not allow that to happen all right this story is fascinating so upon returning to Earth the Apollo 11 mission. NASA, of course, you know, thought it was historic and they had all the moon rocks and the bags
Starting point is 00:01:38 with the moon dust and everything in it. And one bag was stolen from NASA and ended up in the possession of a museum curator who was eventually arrested for having this stolen merchandise. Now, after they arrested the museum curator, law enforcement, which, I mean, of course. Mislabels the bag. Not realizing it's true origins. Well, you arrested the guy for stealing the NASA bag of moon dust.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I mean, okay. So, went to a court battle and they started out. Now, it ended up in a government auction. Okay, so they don't know what they've got, but it's in an auction. Lady buys it for under a thousand. bucks in 2015. All right. So she sees that it's a NASA bag and it's got some stuff and she says, oh, hey, uh, hey, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:41 Hey, NASA, can you give me a hand here? What have I got? What's going on? You know, I just bought this at a, you know, in an auction. It's wondering if you can help me out a little bit. Uh, NASA refuses to return the bag to Carlson saying, uh, no, this is our, this is our goods. It's our stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:59 You are not getting a bag. So she takes them to court and says, no, no, no, no, no. I bought this bag legitimately from a government auction. It's my bag. So it ended with her being awarded custody of the bag. The court said, yep, it's your bag, you keep it. So she sells it at an auction for $1.8 million. That's not a bad return on your investment.
Starting point is 00:03:22 All right? Now, she thought she was going to get like $4 million, so she's a little bummed. But I know, but, you know, still. It's like companies telling you, well, we could, if we don't, this year, we didn't make our goal. Our goal was $20 billion. Well, what did you make? $16 billion. Okay, shut up.
Starting point is 00:03:42 All right. So you spent $995. She spent some money on the court case, right, trying to win it back from NASA. So I doubt she spent $1.8 million. But, you know, we'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Now she's claiming since it was supposed to get $4 million. She claims that the damage done to the bag while NASA had it is why the price fell on the bag. I agree with her.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So she's seeking compensation for the lost value as well as emotional distress related to the drama over the bag and NASA's refusal to return it to her. Take him to the bank, baby. Good luck. Yes. I love it. Good luck. So she's suing NASA, not the government, right? Correct.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Okay. Well, good. Same thing. Kind of. Same thing, kind of. But that is fascinating. It's a fascinating story. It's a leap.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Well, look, she thought she was going to get four. She gets 1.8. NASA probably treated it. You'd think that NASA would have treated it pretty well, right? I mean, it says lunar sample return back on it. How many lunar samples do they have? I don't know a lot, right? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Hey, put this on the, yeah, over there with the other ones. And they were pissed. They were pissed. That they didn't have it. So hey, this is our bag, you're not getting it back, which, yes, they did. And who knows, they might have given her a bad one, you know, an older one. They might have given her the one that they used for the fake landing. They all came back at the same time.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But they gave her one that was beat up, you know, in transit or something. That wasn't the one that she actually had. They went from Hollywood, yeah. Right. From the fake moon landing. Right. Right. Yeah, from the fake moon landing in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh, it was Arizona. I thought it was in Hollywood. Sorry. Well, I mean, Hollywood. did it, but they had to have the soundstage in Arizona. Oh, got it, got it. You see the shadows or the pictures or the boardline? Yeah, and the hammer with the drops?
Starting point is 00:05:37 What? And the cables? So incredibly stupid. All right, so this weekend, I did watch. I said I was going to on Friday, and I did. I made it through the Ted Bundy documentary on Netflix. Fascinating. How many stars?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Fascinating. And it just, if you haven't seen it, well, here's the train. which I found fascinating because it's real. It's the tapes of Ted himself, which is amazing. He didn't look like anybody's notion of somebody who would tear apart young girls. Look about it. That was me, not the trailer.
Starting point is 00:06:20 My name is Ted Bundy. I've never been spoken to anybody about this. I am looking for an opportunity to tell the story as best I can. Person of this type chooses a big, for a reason, possession, control, violence. There was something unique about Ted's brain. He talked in terms of a voice in his head, and this voice would start saying things about women.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He had very blue eyes. When he really got going, his eyes went absolutely black. Murder leaving a person of this type hungry, unfulfilled, would also leave him with the obviously irrational belief. belief that the next time you did it will be fulfilled and the next time you did it would be fulfilled or the next time you did it you will be fulfilled. Theodore Bundy has escaped suspected of dozens of sex killings in Washington State Idaho Utah and Colorado. I think things are gonna work out that's about all I can say.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Bundy is acting as an own lawyer what is unusual to see is that many of the onlookers are women. You're a little scared when you look at him? It just doesn't look like the type to kill somebody. The serial killer, Theodore Bundy has escaped once again. One of the FBI Most Wanted Man. He was charming. He was looking smart. You sure you have the right guy. Just a normal individual.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I mean, it was, it was fascinating. There's four episodes. And it, they're all, they're all about an hour. The last episode is a little over an hour to finish off. I would say, if you don't think you can make it through, I mean, you're looking at real crime scene photos and stuff, which is some of the last. of it's a little, how graphic are we talking about? Pretty graphic.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I mean, the crime scene photos. That's what you're looking at. I see everything. There's nothing blurred. No, not the crime scene photos. But there's not, there's nothing,
Starting point is 00:08:27 you don't see reenactments of murders or anything. We're just showing you what happened. Escape from jail twice. I mean, just fascinating. Like the first time he escaped from jail. He only escaped for a couple of days, I think, two or three days.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Only a couple of days? but he practiced. He talked about practicing on these tapes. All these tapes, he talked about what he did. Detectives were interviewing him. And so they also interviewed him. He was one of the guys that they interviewed. Remember the other Netflix show where they're setting up the new FBI,
Starting point is 00:09:09 where they started investigating serial killers, you know, asking questions, what put them all together? like the TV, there's a couple of TV shows. One is criminal minds. Behavioral BAU, the behavioral analyst genetics unit, right? Behavioral analyst. And then the Netflix show is Mind Hunter.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And that show is about the beginning of the BAU, right? How they went out and during, in that time frame of the beginning of that BAU where they went out and investigate and talked to some of the serial killers, Ted Bundy was one of the serial killers they talked to as well. So because when he was, When he was doing his thing, the head Bundy thing, there wasn't cross-reference information. You know, police departments were a lot on their own.
Starting point is 00:09:55 They relied on, you know, phone calls and the U.S. mail. You know, there wasn't the Internet. And so he was way ahead of everyone as far as getting away and moving and on the move. The first time he broke out of jail, he talked about practicing jumping off the second, bunk, the high bunk, and he said I would just jump off the second bunk over and over again to strengthen my legs to get the jump because he jumped out of a two-story courthouse. So he had set up this where they'd let him go into this corner room after the court after the trial was over for the day and he'd go in there and read and do stuff before they
Starting point is 00:10:35 took him back to jail. Just opened the window, jumped out, gone. Now that lasted a few, you know, I think that was only two or three days or something like that. The second time he broke out of jail, he got himself, he didn't eat. He made himself really thin so he could fit through this hole in the ceiling. He cut a hole in the ceiling on this light where the light bulb was so that he could crawl through the ceiling, which took him up into an office that was above the jail cells, which then he just, he stole a uniform, walked out. Talk about spoiler alert, dude. That's Ted Bundy. It's from the 70s and 80s.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I didn't know that. I didn't know that. You do now. Exactly. Watch the documentary. I would prefer to get it from Netflix than Jeff Fisher's face. Would you? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Well, you could, there's three other episodes you can watch that are all part of it. I'll skip the first one and we just go to the second one. Well, I don't know where they talk about the breakouts. So you don't know where? Yeah, somewhere in there they talk about. Now, I can tell you a lot more. I can bring it down for you a whole bunch more because it is fast. The second time he broke out, he was gone.
Starting point is 00:11:44 for a long time. They didn't know where the heck he was. He ended up being on the 10 most wanted list. He traveled. He stole a couple of cars. He went to Chicago. Tric took a bus. Went to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Took a train back down south, stole another car. And in those days, I mean, he's gone. Right. There's nobody. This is 70s and 60s? Yeah, 70s and 80s. 70s and 80s. And I know, I know you're going to get all mad at me.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But what did he do? I don't want to spoil the. documentary. Too late now because I know now he's a go to jail try to escape twice. You know he escaped twice. Okay. Well he escaped twice. So what's wrong with this guy? What do he do? Ted Bundy killed a lot of people. Oh, okay. So there's a murder. Yes, he's a serial killer. Okay. And he killed only women. Oh, that makes sense. According to that trailer says a voice told him about women. Huh. That's episode two. Let's move to Episode 3.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Okay, so now you got me thinking that I've run in the damn documentary. Now you're spoiled it. Because I don't care about the spoilers. Personally, we've gone over this on this network a bunch. It never bothers me to know what's going on in a show. I'm happy to know. If I want to watch something, I'm going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I don't care if I know what's going on. So I won't spoil it anymore for you. But you need, if you're fascinated by serial killers, I know, don't look at me like that. And if you're fascinated by, you know, it's a great, it's a really good documentary. It's done really well. I would say that the middle two, if I was going to be honest and just review it, I would say that the middle two,
Starting point is 00:13:32 okay, let's move on. I mean, they stretch it out for the four episodes because they want to give you the detail of what's going on in the world and his life and stuff. And then that's, it's fascinating. It is fascinating. But get to it. Move on. Get to the kill and, damn it. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I don't care. with the prosecutor in Lake County, Florida was thinking. Okay, but I do. But I do because it was, you know, it was great. And he was one of the strong guys. He was the Lake City guy. He was the guy that busted him and ended up, you know, really bringing him in for justice and getting him the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But, and not, you know, getting him, they wanted to get it done so that the other states didn't try to take him. I'm guessing that Ted Bundy's dead? Yes, he is. Because the show was released 30 years to the day. of his execution in Florida. Yes, he was, old sparky. So I'm guessing that you're gonna,
Starting point is 00:14:30 I'm guessing you're gonna watch the movie with Sackafron? Well, I was just reading about that not long ago. They're gonna spend a little bit more time on, not so much of the killing and stuff, just the craziness of Bundy and stuff. Yeah, they're gonna spend more time on him
Starting point is 00:14:41 on who he was and how handsome and pretty he was. Yeah, you know, look. Was he pretty? He was a good looking guy. He was a good looking guy. He had a lot of people fooled. That's what got him.
Starting point is 00:14:52 that's why it put a lot of people at ease. Oh, and then that's how he got the girl. And he was a good-looking guy that would, he would put a, like an arm brace on, you know, like he broke his arm or his shoulder brace, so he'd come up and, you know, I need some help getting into my car. Say no, say no. One lady got away. There's one person that got away from Bundy.
Starting point is 00:15:23 and see there I go spoiling just know that we talked to her during the documentary too but it was really good and well worth the watch and then I started I don't know about the Zach Efron I mean they're all Bundy crazy now yeah and I was looking online and a lot of people are upset
Starting point is 00:15:41 because the movie with Zach Afron is going to highlight you know the pretty boy the good side of Ted Bundy and a lot of people are saying that that's going to trigger and bring back memories for the victims have they seen the documentary I guess not. Trigger everyone, man. I mean, they're showing crime scene photos.
Starting point is 00:15:59 They're talking to actual detectives. It's his voice. It's Ted Bundy on tape. It's Ted Bundy on video in the trials. His voice from the jail cells being interviewed. Does that trigger anybody? I would say so. A lot.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I mean, if I was, if I were to be a person who would be triggered by something like that, and I am not. But if I were, that would be something that would trigger me. You know what I mean? You just would. I'm still talking about Ted Bundy. What are you wrapping me up for?
Starting point is 00:16:33 I was going to get some more spoilers on the Ted Bundy documentary. Why can't I? I just, it's just conversations with the killer, the Ted Bundy tapes. All I want to talk about was Ted Bundy is all. It's all. We could talk about OJ too if you want. but I was really just want to talk about that money as well I do get kind of fascinated by these guys don't I
Starting point is 00:17:05 if you hold that finger up at me one more time I swear to you all right let's head to the break room I need a drink desperately and you know what I need a drink of a Coca-Cola zero sugar you know it's I'm just calling it by the full name Coca-Cola zero sugar instead of just Coke Zero better
Starting point is 00:17:55 Coke Zero but it's Coca-Cola zero sugar that's the name of it it's the full name like if I had to call this this can to the stand
Starting point is 00:18:08 I'd have to say your honor we wish to speak to Coca-Cola zero sugar so I mean it's just the way it works all right let's talk about health shall we and not about drinking
Starting point is 00:18:20 Coca-Cola zero sugar as part of the health program because we all know that's good. Please. Okay. So something is going on. We know something is going on.
Starting point is 00:18:33 If you listen to this podcast, you can quote me on this, something is going on, all right? You know it is. And this is just another example of something is going on. In fact, that's what I'm calling this story now. Something is going on. In the state of Washington, in the state of Washington, all right, Governor Jay, Inslee, of course, I don't tell you who the governor is of the state of Washington. You know that.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yesterday, all counties, all counties, state of emergency. Measles. Where's the... All right, let's try. Take two in the state of Washington. All counties. Governor Jay Inslee. Of course, I didn't have to tell you who the governor of Washington is.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Duh. You know that. State of emergency, all counties, measles. Where's the, if I have to do take three, man, we're going to shut this place down. Take three. This is the Washington state, all counties, measles emergency, take three. So we believe if you listen to this podcast long enough that something is going on. I mean, in fact, that's what we're going to call it now, is something is going on.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And as a fact, just look around, something is going on. And as another example of something is going on, the state of Washington, Governor Jay Inslee, I have to tell you the governor of Washington is, state of emergency, all counties, measles, something is going on. That's a fact. Come on. The existence of 26 confirmed cases in the. the state of Washington creates an extreme public health risk that may quickly spread to other
Starting point is 00:20:51 counties and let's shut it down. Hey nobody got time for that? Thank you. Thank you. So be on the lookout, man. If you're in Washington or passing through or anything, oof, measles, something is going on. I know we're in the break room, but you know what? We're just going to talk about health today.
Starting point is 00:21:14 We're in the break room. This is what we do. We eat crackers and drink sodas. and we're just going to talk about health today. So did you see the new study that came out that eating cheese is the key to long life? Yes. Come on, baby. I don't even want to go any farther than the headline.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I don't want to know what they said. When we start reading those stories, it breaks down to like, no, it's not really. It's just we fed extra cheese to one rat and one rat out of 800 lived longer. I don't want to know about that. I just want, we're just going with the headline. Cheese. You eat cheese. Helping you live longer.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Period. We're done. Do not read any farther than that. All right, that's it. That's it. That's it. Another study that I'm not going to delve into any farther than just a headline. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Study shows that living near water is linked to better mental health. I don't want to look into it. I don't want to know that you have to live, you know, you have to live there for 10 years. years, 20 years, and of course you have to walk on the beach and you have to smell the earth water and everything else I don't want to know about it. I just want to know that I just want the headline. If I live near water, I have better mental health. That's period.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I like this segment. I like this segment. I like this segment. It's how we're looking into it. It's it. Now this story is really kind of a, well, it's about health. It is about health. But it's an interesting way to cure kidney stones.
Starting point is 00:22:46 apparently people who are on roller coasters are having kidney stones fly out of their body you thought dropping keys out of people's pockets cell phones glasses all kinds of stuff falling out underneath the roller coaster yeah you don't want to get hit with the kidney stones bro mommy had something just hit me in the head don't look at what it was keep walking
Starting point is 00:23:18 I got to ask you to read your tweet because it was fascinating. I don't even remember what I tweeted on this stupid thing. I could find it fast enough, but all right, here you go. It's raining kidney stones. Another reason not to stand underneath the roller coaster. Absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:23:41 100% fact. There's nothing wrong. That's all I could think of. I sang the stupid song the whole day. It's raining kidney stones. And people are going, you know, riding it more than once. They're getting rid of the got kidney stones. If you've got kidney stones, why not?
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's a perfect place for it, right? You get to scream. Hopefully have pants on that are catching the kidney stones. Hopefully. So insurance now covers for theme parks? Why not? Why not? I can get behind that.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You have to roll, you have to pay the bill. I've got to go to a roller coaster today. I got to pass this kidney stone. If a doc writes your prescription, they got to pay for it, right? Yeah, they do. That's the prescription. So I'm all for that, no problem.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Still in the break room. Talking a little bit about health. Now, this is a small portion of America, I know. But there's plenty of states that this recall is under. Okay. Pet hedgehogs are associated with the salmonella outbreak. So don't kiss or snuggle them, the CDC. warrants. I thought we had a government shutdown.
Starting point is 00:24:56 The CDC's been giving us a lot of warnings during this old shutdown. Sad news, speaking of the shutdown too, because the IRS said it's going to take them at least a year to catch up with all the things after the shutdown. I know. Dry your eyes. At least 11 people in eight states have been
Starting point is 00:25:12 affected by a salmonella outbreak at the center and says the CDC. And they've been linked to pet hedgehogs. Unbelievable. Wait a minute. And then we get down to the bottom. Whole Foods recalls baby spinach containing food products
Starting point is 00:25:31 or potential salmonella commendation. What? We got baby spinach and whole foods. We got pet heads. Okay, so Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Texas, Wyoming, are having a possibility of a hedgehog salmonilla breakout. So if you live in those states, don't snuggle with your hedgehog. Just turn them in.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Now, it doesn't say, we're... But the Whole Foods recalls baby spinach containing food products over potential salmonella conomination. I mean, there's something else we have to worry about. Holy cow. I mean, we are getting done. Something is coming. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Something is coming. And one last little thing for health that I think is most important, really, in today's world. And I don't really want to go deep into this story either. That's why I want to stay with the headline because if you start digging into these stories you find out the headline is not true. Yeah. And that just really ticks me off.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So instead of looking into it and getting some kind of real news, fake news, check mark from the chewing the fat, headlines we love. I like that. Ooh, I like that. Say it again. Instead of getting the real news or fake news,
Starting point is 00:26:49 check mark from chewing the fat, just going with the headlines, headlines we love. scientists are working on a pill for loneliness. I really want to dig deeper into the story, but I'm not going to because I don't want to be bummed. Can you snuggle with a pill? You can snuggle with the pill. You can give the pill to someone else and snuggle with them.
Starting point is 00:27:18 That's the pill. I thought Bill Cosby was in jail for that. So this story caught my eye over the weekend, and it really disturbs me, if true. And it feels like it's true just simply because of the world we're living in today. This is from the UK. Harry Miller believes, and I'm going to warn you, this is for adults only, okay? Believes trans women are not women. No, I don't really want that.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Says the formal probe by the Humberside police was into his thinking. and his reasons for liking a particular tweet. Now, I guess he liked a particular tweet that was a limerick that referred to trans women as stupid and made comments about vaginas and synthetic hormones. So Mr. Miller, who used to be a policeman, said the officer told him he was investigating reports of a hate crime. Cop said he was in possession of 30 tweets. And I asked, Harry said,
Starting point is 00:28:52 I asked the officer, is any of them contain criminal material? No. I asked, is he come close to being criminal? And he read me a limerick. And he makes fun of, the cop actually read me a limerick. I told the PC,
Starting point is 00:29:11 I didn't write, the limerick. Ah, but you liked it and promoted it. Now, the police officer told Harry, I know it's not a crime, but it will be recorded as a hate incident. That's just amazing. The cop told me that he needed to speak to me because even though I committed no crime whatsoever, he needed to check my thinking. And finally, he lectured me said sometimes a woman's brain grows a man's body in the womb and that that is what transgender is you can imagine my response says harry lastly he told me that i needed to watch my words more carefully or i was at risk of being sacked by the company for hate speech and he laughed
Starting point is 00:30:03 because it's his company that he works for so it's not really true so maybe the cop ought to you know, check himself before he wrecks himself. Now, if this story is true, seriously, this is where we're at in the world today. I mean, this is coming across the pond. Guaranteed. I mean, we're almost there if we're not there already, right? I mean, people have been fired over tweets. People are losing their jobs over tweets.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I've got a long list of people that have lost their jobs and lost friends and lost family over Facebook posts and tweets. So we're getting pretty close to that. And what is helping it along? I don't know. Let's talk about YouTube, changing its new video recommendation algorithm to prevent promoting conspiracies and false information. YouTube. My experience on YouTube is in love with conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Now, many, many believe that those conspiracies, theories aren't true. I mean, we know that most of them are not true, right? We know that. We know that. If you believe them, if you actually believe the conspiracy theories, that's your fault.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's not YouTube's. That's not my, it's not YouTube's job. But apparently they believe that it is. It is amazing. And if I lose my time travel, YouTubers, we are in deep
Starting point is 00:31:42 trouble. YouTube, we believe that limiting the recommendation of these types of videos will mean a better experience for the YouTube community. No. No.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And we're doomed. We're doomed. I'm just going to leave it at that. We're doomed. That's the headline. I don't want to delve deeper into that because if we delve deeper into we're doomed, you'll find out we're doomed. Just a friendly reminder that you can follow me on Twitter at Jeff EMRA. You can follow me on Facebook and Instagram, Jeff Fisher Radio.
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Starting point is 00:33:59 And I appreciate it, but I'm just trying to make it easy for you. So all you have to do is just 20 stars, best podcast ever, and you're done. Yeah, for example, like Professor J20 says, 20 stars, best podcast ever. See? Then he goes, oh, wait, that's not perfect. L-O-L-L-L-L-O-L. Okay, Jeffie, just for you. I've listened since day one.
Starting point is 00:34:21 but I figured what the hell you make me laugh I mean I want to say thank you but or this one by I wish it would work that's their name I wish it would work says there's a pill for that somewhere right we just talked about a pill
Starting point is 00:34:37 one trillion stars but then changes his mind it says one billion stars Jeff and Chris are funny and it's the most real podcast out there I mean why not listen to them rate different French fries referring to one of our shows last week
Starting point is 00:34:54 where we did review some of the... Well, another... We were just telling you about someone else's review which I disagreed with, by the way. But we don't have to get into that right now, but just rate and review and be like, I wish it would work and come along for the ride. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I have so many stories to get to today, and I'm getting hollered at because apparently my podcasts are too long now. I'm just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They're going on and they're just going. Did I say, hey, Chris, what do you think about how long the podcast is? Well, because I was the one that's brought it up. And I moved 30 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So I could listen to your podcast. So now I'm stuck inside the garage with a garage close. Listen to your podcast. You know, I could die in there. You're ready to take a life for me? I am willing, yes. So here's a thought. It's just an idea.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Maybe you pull it in the garage and don't shut the garage door. I'm not allowed, it has to be shut. Is that a homeowners association rule or something? If you call the Homers Association of my wife, yes. So you're not allowed to pull into the garage. I can pull in and open it, but it has to close or as soon as I go in. Why is that a... Seriously, why is that a...
Starting point is 00:36:36 I don't know. Is that for real? Yeah, that is 100% real. Dude. I got yelled that yesterday because I left it open. You've got to take the bull by the horns on this marriage real fast. I mean, you're starting to have like the whip marks are showing. The whip marks are coming out.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We all see it. Get with the story. This is how we get with an hour podcast right here. Right here. This is right now, right here. You're the one that took it off course. I was just saying I wanted to slow it down. I wanted to get.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Because, you know, that will trigger me to that story. See, I know your triggers. You know my triggers. What if you pull in the garage and you shut the garage door like the wife says, Mr. I can't be a man and do what I want. And you open the car windows and you shut the car off and still listen to the podcast. It's hot. It gets too hot in there.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That's a good cold here. Oh, I get hot quick. You don't have, my God, what kind of trailer do you live in that? Your garage is not air conditioned. Your garage is air conditioned? I have had it specially attached to the trailer. Nice. No.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Are you kidding me? Nobody has a garage doing it. If your garage is, if you're, if you've made enough money to have a garage. that's air condition, we need to talk. Okay. But the main story I wanted to get to that I didn't get to today, and I know that my point was is that I have some great, I have got
Starting point is 00:37:53 some superior stories in the fat pile right here. Superior stories that I'm not going to get to because I've got to much my time on the pocket. Okay. So, I just want to be sure that I didn't get to the dwarf tossing story, which is one of my favorites for the day. We have to cover that. Okay, so I'm just, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:38:13 all right that I just just saying that I didn't get to the dwarf tossing so another story out of Washington all right not only do we have the measles you know epidemic going on and I don't think it's an epidemic yet but it's possible and the governor has issued a state of emergency in all the counties all right but a bill
Starting point is 00:38:34 by state senator Mike Patton who sometimes state senators are douchey that's why they're state senators Yeah, some of them are kind of cool because they have aspirations to move on with their life. But state senator, that's a good gig. I mean, you be a state senator, that's a good gig. And you get a lot of perks. You make a pretty good wage.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You can still have your own business. You can still do your own thing. But you got some power in the state. I mean, it's a good, it's not a bad gig to have. So this state senator wants to have a bill of 5486. a pest that would ban dwarf tossing contests and promotions and any other recreational activity
Starting point is 00:39:20 involving the exploitation that endangers the health, safety, and welfare of any person with dwarfism. Now, apparently he was driving by, and I said, I was driving by, in parentheses, a strip club. in Spokane Valley. Hey, let's not worry about that strip club. Let's be pissed about their promotion.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I can't believe that. I mean, are you kidding me? It's okay to have the strip club. I mean, so that's fine, which by the way, I'm not opposed to, but I'm talking to the state senator itself is more worried about the contest going on at the strip club than the strip club itself. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So they've got a, you know, Dwarf, Dwarf tosses. He's been around for a long time. Oh, yeah. You used to have Velcro boards, which I actually started the letter of a wall of Velcro. Remember when he used to be tossed them on a valley? Anyway, the bars would set up a contest. And now some states, I remember in Florida they passed a bill that you couldn't have the dwarf
Starting point is 00:40:31 tossing in places that sold liquor. Well, strip clubs don't sell liquor. A lot of strip clubs, you have to bring your own. Or you, it's just beer and wine if you bring your own liquor. so there were rules around that. So there were still some dwarf tossing contest. Plus, what are we putting good people out of work? I mean, we're telling the dwarfs, hey, you can't be, you can't, we know more about your safety than you do, little person.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Mad Mike. I think his name is Mad Mike, the guy that was doing the contest in Washington because there was a picture of him with the big M on his helmet as he was getting ready to get tossed. Anything get tossed? It's fantastic. So, oh, yeah, they're still tossing. This is just a bill that he wants to do. He wants to do. And of course they come across one of the local dwarfs, one of the local little people that's all,
Starting point is 00:41:21 well, you just can't have this. It's such a bad example for other dwarfs. You don't want to get tossed? Don't get tossed. Why are you holding up this man's work? If he wants to set up and go and make some money, tips and a wage at these clubs and get, put a helmet on and some Velcro and get tossed around. See who can throw them farthest?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Why is that your call? Seriously, why can't you do that? I mean, there's too much control going on. Did I mention earlier, I mean, if we can't have dwarf tossing, we're doomed. And YouTube's never going to show the video again either. I mean, you're going to talk about doom. Can't even see the stupid dwarf toss videos anymore. I got a lot of stories to get to too.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I want so much. I've got so many stories to do now. I've got to go now. Chew of the fat, thanks for listening. Time's getting cut off. Except. Except. We're doing a couple more things that are exciting.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I've got a couple of stories. What if you had to live your life? And I think this has become true now more than ever, where people hide behind what they believe to stay out of trouble because they see other people not hiding behind what they believe and getting in all kinds of trouble.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like? This Washington State Baker apologizing for a politically charged Valentine's Day cookie that has generated quite an uproar because on the cookie it wrote to build the wall, along with addicted to love and cool beans by the way.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But one of them said addicted to, or one of them said build the wall. And so a person who from Mexican heritage said it felt personal. And of course, now they want to boycott him and they want to shut him down. And he's apologized saying that it was just a joke. This is a perfect example of what's happened in the last two and a half, three years, since the world has been in the Trump campaign, the Trump presidency. It is an era now, I think.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I think that's what it is. It's the Trump era where people are now more and more afraid to show how they really feel. And I think that's one of the reasons that he got elected. Most of the polls were showing that he was behind. But he ended up winning. And that's because so many people didn't want to come out and say, yeah, I'm for Trump, because they didn't want to fight the crowd. They just wanted to kind of go along for the ride and be.
Starting point is 00:44:25 you know, not fight anybody and just go to work and be calm, but still they were for what the man said he was for. So I happened to see a tweet from Laura Trump, and it talked about Elizabeth Pipco, this 23-year-old model who has appeared in Maxim, and when you see your pictures, not that I went to Google and looked at images or anything, but when you see that, you're reminded of, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And you wanted to flip the page, You know, I was on Google, so there was no more flipping. I just realized that she has been living this very life and has now come out from the dark and admitted that, yes, she is a 23-year-old model who is for Donald Trump. Hello, Elizabeth. How are you? I'm great. How are you? I am so good.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I don't believe we've ever seen times better. And so you've been living in the shadows doing your work. You said that you've been working the last two, three years, as a model and had to be quiet to save your career. Is that true? Yeah, very true. So explain what some of the things you went through the last couple of years. So a lot of it was obviously emotional, you know, dealing with people saying not only terrible things about the president, but about his supporters and his state. and voters and everything.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And, you know, being a part of that and not being able to, you know, defend myself and the American people was, I mean, it was brutal. It was really emotional. And it was also really difficult because I also worked on the 2016 Trump campaign. So I was there. I was in the office. I was busy. I was working my hours.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And I had to lie about where I was and what I was doing and what I was interested in and what I supported. And it was really hard. So when you were living your two lives for, you know, at least the last couple of years anyway, you know, maybe three years of living the two lives. Now, I would guess that you are a, you know, you're a recognizable model for people in the business. So were you wearing disguises these past two years going into work when you were working for the Trump campaign? I definitely was not wearing a disguise.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I mean, the people of the Trump campaign were pretty busy, not going to lie. They totally, I mean, they figured out that I modeled and things like that. But, you know, they were respectful. They were normal. They didn't really, you know, care much. about anything. And then once I left the Trump campaign, I put away my badge. I put away my maga hat, my Trump Pence jacket, and I pretended I was never there, you know, so people really never put the two together. Well, that's fascinating. Now, did anyone ever come close? I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:02 were you hiding in the shadow? Oh my god, don't say anything, pretend you didn't see me. And then I bumped to a few people while on my way to work and hit my badge. I definitely had to lie about my schedule a few times, but no, I think I was actually pretty good at the double life thing. Nice. Nice. So, you spent the last, you know, the couple years modeling and, you know, doing business and collecting an income and then working for the campaign and earning, you know, part-time income for the campaign and realizing that this was something that you believed in, which we all should be able to do. What prompted the idea for you to say, you know what, I'm tired of living the double life.
Starting point is 00:47:44 This is who I am. I think I just got tired of lying. I got tired of letting people, you know, walk all over the. the president and his supporters and you know me obviously being one of them and I wanted to not only come out and you know defend myself and everybody else but I wanted to get people a voice and an inspiration and based on the messages I've gotten you know since the story went out I think people you know hopefully will now gain the courage with how their friends and their family and their co-workers that they support the president and more importantly understand that it's totally okay especially in the 21st century and you know the amazing country that we live in to support our president I hope that's true I hope that's true that we're able to get a point where people are able to support who they want and not feel triggered because that is agonizing in itself. Now, as part of working on the campaign, did finding the one that you love and cherish and want to marry have anything to do with the coming out? I don't want to give them all the credit, but yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:42 When you have your parents and your brother supporting you, it's great, but when you also not only have the love of your life supporting you, but you have the president to thank for bringing the love of your life, you know, to you. I definitely, you know, I owe the world to the president. He, you know, gave me the best experience of my life. He is trying to, you know, make my country better. And he gave me, you know, the love of my life now. So I owe him a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And it's definitely a big part of the coming out. So having said that, you know, you met, and just as a real part of the story, I mean, you met who is now your husband while you worked on the campaign. Did he realize that you were Elizabeth Pipco and wanted to, hey, would you like to go out for a lunch? he definitely realized I know now that he told a few people before you know we ever got in the stadium
Starting point is 00:49:27 but I mean it was pretty I'll give him I'll give him the respect he deserved so it was pretty well done it was pretty smooth good well I mean he ended up with the prize right you I mean hello I think I did but I'm glad oh see that is so sweet now you got married at Mar-Lago
Starting point is 00:49:46 which is you know it's kind of it's an upgrade from a trailer Park, I'll give you that. All right. Yeah. It's not bad. So were you able to have President Trump at the ceremony? I was not.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Obviously, I was honored to be there even, you know, without expecting him to be there. But I know that although he's usually there during the holidays, we got by December 26th. Because of the shutdown, he was actually unlike some people in D.C. trying to work. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, he was. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So is there, right now, what's your, what's your biggest fear of, right now in your life after you've come out and you're telling your story and we're getting your story told, you said what you hoped for, that more people are able to come out and feel free to support their president and whoever they believe, really. What's your biggest fear right now? I mean, I don't want to sound crazy or give the bullies, you know, any more powers than they have. My biggest fear is obviously being attacked on the new way. I've gotten enough messages in the last, you know, two days and other people definitely want to harm me, both emotionally and physically. I guess that's a rational fear to have.
Starting point is 00:50:52 But, I mean, I came out, so I don't think I am allowed to have any fears anymore. And I'd love to use this as an inspiration and have no more fears ever again. I hope that's the case. So what's next? What are you doing now? So far, I'm just, you know, taking a day by day. Clearly the stories, you know, building up. And I'm answering a lot of people who are thanking me for coming out.
Starting point is 00:51:12 You know, I'm supporting them and hoping they can do the same and tell people about their support for the president. And, you know, also just seeing if there's a way for me to get involved. and hopefully help and be as lucky as I work in 2016 and help the president get reelected. So you are not working for the reelection campaign right now? Not just yet. My husband is. So I'm emotionally involved.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But I'm hoping in some way, whether with a Republican group or some kind of coalition or, you know, with a campaign, whatever it is, to be involved and make sure that our president gets reelected. Yes. Which, you know, I'm sure will happen. There's not a big, I don't think, I don't think he has to.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I've looked around at some of the people that are going to be trying to go up against them and that's a little bit of an issue. You said it not me. So what's next modeling? Have you been dumped by your manager and dumped by every magazine and have they been exed out on every cover
Starting point is 00:52:06 that you were on and everything else? Or are you still ready to head to the islands for a bikini shoot? I am always ready. I was going ready. I don't know. Accepted and that's totally fine. And I'm a lot happier now that I even listed a day before the story came out.
Starting point is 00:52:22 So I'm definitely not regretting any decision. That's great. Do you know of any backlash from, say, your manager or your business partners that have, that they've received from any of your companies? I don't know of any, you know, big time company backlash. I do know, I'm sure it's personal, and I've avoided a lot of messages from strangers. I'm sure a lot of them are people I know very personally. And I don't think I'm ready to look at them just yet.
Starting point is 00:52:48 but I'm sure I know what's coming. Yeah. And what about sponsors? I mean, models today, you guys are like the NASCAR drivers, man. You walk around with, you know, sponsor stickers all over you. So any backlash yet from them? Not really. I'm sure I'll be getting very different sponsorship opportunities now, but I'm excited to see what happens, obviously.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Elizabeth Pipco, you know, I realize that this is a fascinating story to me because you're finally, there's someone that actually has been a breakthrough in living a double life, really, and still now able to come out and say, hey, I've been living this double life, and I am for Donald Trump, and I have been for Donald Trump. So, you know, here's a raspberry to you from me, and all you people that were saying bad things about Donald Trump and my presence. Now you know why I didn't say anything back to you, you're rotten somewhere around. Elizabeth, any last words that you want to say to the chewing the fat audience? Because I think, you know, we've just become, you know, I mean, I don't have the money, but I mean, I can be, you know, an unpaid sponsor of the Elizabeth Pivocal modeling career.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I would be honored. But, no, I mean, last one, just, you know, think about what you feel deep down and what you really support. And don't be scared to stand up for yourself. Not only are you standing up for, you know, your country at the same time. But you're inspiring a lot of people to do the same. And the more people to do that, the easier it will be for our president, to continue making your record great again for the next six years. Elizabeth Pipco, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Thank you so much. Have a good day. You too.

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