Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 249 | Fat Pile Friday - Double Dangerous EDITION | Guest: Conn Iggulden

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

It's FAT PILE FRIDAY and Jeffy is here bringing you the news that matter the most. Forget about the impeachment stuff and relax by listening to the fat pile. A special guest joins the crew and talks about his FANTASTIC book The Dangerous Book for Boys. Jeffy forgets today is FRIDAY so he does a quick headlines segment and looks like Popeyes is getting out of control. With over a million copies in print, an Amazon original series, and countless sub-editions on the market, this long awaited sequel to The Dangerous Book for Boys gives fans exactly what they want—an action-packed sequel with more of what made the first volume a quintessential gift. Now, beloved author of The Dangerous Book for Boys Conn Iggulden returns with the highly-anticipated follow-up collection, THE DOUBLE DANGEROUS BOOK FOR BOYS, which has even more information, insights, and diversions for boys from eight to eighty. Designed with the same nostalgic look and feel as the first book, this companion volume includes more than seventy brand new chapters and important skills, fascinating historical information, and essential stories   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And now, a Blaze Media podcast. So I know it was reported and many of you thought that with the new Popeye sandwich, people went crazy for it because it had crack in it. Well, it has driven people to murder. Right? So you got to have something. Well, now we know that it's got pot. A man got a half-used joint in his.

sandwich the other night. Do you order a sweet tea with light ice and extra lemon? No, he did not know a sweet tea light ice. Extra lemon? Extra lemon? Yeah, the extra lemon is the dope. Yeah, the extra lemon. No, he didn't.

He just, he ordered, he ordered a spicy and a regular. Okay. A spicy and a regular. When you order a spicy and a regular, that comes with a half a joint. Oh, what comes with a full joint? Two spices. Two spices. And by the way.

Two spices and sweet. tea light ice extra lemon. I went to Chick-fil-Aid today and I order sweet tea, light ice extra lemon. Nothing. Wow. Yeah, don't poke your store around. You got to open it up to see if the plastic bags are

floating around. No? No, I just got the two lemons and that's a big lemon too. It tastes a little weird at the beginning. That's because maybe the blasty bag open. Yeah, yeah. So if you see me high, it's Friday. Who cares? So he's all bummed that Popeye hasn't gotten back to him

because he says he claims that he, you know, ate half the sandwich and then the roach fell out. And he took a picture of it and sent it to them. And we don't even, the Popeyes doesn't even know if it was theirs, right? It came from them. Well, look. And who's putting half a roach in a sandwich?

I'll tell you who. The employee that was smoking as he was, you know, making a sandwich. Okay. The manager comes out. Oh my God, what am I going to do? Drops it in the sandwich. Drops it in the sandwich. Close it up.

Move on. Go. Go. Go. Then he couldn't remember what sandwich you put it in. Yes. After the manager walked by. It was already gone.

It's already gone. Possible. But, of course, I mean, they're investigating into it because they care about their customers. How are you going to investigate it? You're going to saliva swap this and send it to CSI. Or you're going to just ask, and one of the employees goes, yeah, it was me. Or just look at the grill and. Yeah, that was me.

I was, you know, I was making sandwiches and I was, you know, smoking a joint back here. And I just dropped it on the sandwich and I get out of here. you know. I don't mean it. What I love about the guy, he ate the one sandwich perfect. Then he opens up the second sandwich

and he had the roach in it. And he's about halfway done and the roach falls out. He says, I lost my appetite. Wouldn't have anything to do with the sandwich and a half you've already eaten, right? No, I had nothing to do with that.

In Italy, feral hogs are taking over. I mean, it's becoming a frightening thing in Italy. and people are clamoring for the government to do something. Please, government, please do something. Farrow hogs are going all over our farms and we don't know what to do.

Here you go, farmers. How about you kill them? Get yourself a gun and I'd kill him. Yeah. Oh, is that a feral hog? Maybe we, oh my gosh, there's another one. According to this, all right, there are about two. million feral hogs in

Italy. Now they've doubled in four years. So there's some feral hog bittness going on. Feral hogs are taking care of business. They cause about 10,000 road accidents

every year in Italy. I mean, Rome farmers calling for action from the government. Oh, that's such a, oh my God. How about you take care of your own farm? I thought farmers were like

those people apparently not an end. Like they just do it. Yeah. There's a problem. They take care of it. They take care of it.

Yeah. You sit out, you sit out a couple nights. Oh, that's right. That's the American farmer. That's right. If I remember from. Sorry.

Gosh darned. What was I thinking? Oh, we, we. No, that's France. Same thing. That's Fran. Hey.

He's killing some feral hogs over there. And they're the mafia? Right? I'll kill the feral hogs. Well, the mafia is going to get involved now. Oh, yeah. Well. Because there was $22,000 worth of cocaine.

Oh, no. Buried in the woods. And the boar has found it. Uh-huh. ate it all. Oh, so Corleone is upset. You ain't lying, Corleone. Michael Corleone.

The boar is. ate your cocaine. Sorry I don't have your money. Right. No kidding. No kidding. But the boy... That's a good excuse, though. That is a good excuse. That is a good excuse. That is a good excuse. Now, apparently these guys were burying it out there and then they were wheeling and dealing and into the bars and stuff. Well, yeah, how else were you supposed to

traffic your drugs? Thank you. And they were under they were under surveillance and the surveillance tapes caught them talking about losing this cocaine in the woods from these hogs. $22,000 worth of Coke. Do you know how high those hogs were?

I mean, there was some stoned hogs out there. Now, you want to talk about them doubling in two years? They were all high on cocaine. They were all doing, they're all doing boar business. And this is not the first time they probably found them. And, right. And now they're Joneson. Now you've got them hooked.

They're out tearing up. Right. I mean, you got wild boars hanging out on the farms, man. Need more cocaine. Need more cocaine. Right. So they're in trouble. And believe me, I know how frustrating it is when animals take your drugs.

Oh, you do? Oh, yes, that story. You can't say that story, though. I can't. No, you cannot. Why? No. Why?

No. Even there was a long time ago and says old Jeffie, and people can put two and two together. But there was a cat. There was some donuts. And the donuts were eaten and the cat ate them. That's what you could say. And then we cost us more money because we had to go purchase more donuts. Yeah.

But just now I know the frustration that those boars caused. Oh, we can do something with the boars. No, I'm sorry. This farmer should be out there. It's embarrassing. You know what? You're embarrassing the name of farmer. embarrassing

Italian farmers embarrassing there's boars on my farm somebody needs to do something yeah that would be you hold on hold on maybe Fisher and Cruz hog hunting

company I like that idea we go to Italy we kill boars for the farmers and then we pick specific farmers that we

the first farmer that says yeah kill mine he's the farmer that we're We're going to rent the land that the drug dealers bury their cocaine in. And we just guard that. Yes. I mean, that's what's going to happen, right? Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the mafia is just going to set up a farm. Are you farmers? Yes. We'll take it. What are you growing? That stuff over there. But it's not growing, though. It looks like there's holes, Doug.

No, I don't know what you're talking about. Get off my land. but thank you and bury them with the hogs well I've got good news and bad news the good news college students are putting down cigarettes cigarettes are the smoking

has gone down I mean that's good right that's really good yes it is the tobacco use has been steadily decreasing they lost you I don't know a college kid but yes they did lose me they did lose me you could pass a college kid

it almost been a year since I've smoked you can pass a college kid you got a Missouri Missouri football sweatshirture. Yeah, football sweatshirt. Yeah, I'm a little embarrassing wearing that these days. We've been, we've stuck a big win. We've talked about Missouri football. No good?

The last three games, Missouri has sucked big wind. Like how bad? Bad. Let's say I was looking today. They lost all three. We're five and four now in the season. Okay. And the last three games, three losses in a row,

we've scored 21 points. In the last three games. We've scored 21 points. The three teams that we played have scored. scored 76, 76, 77 points, something like that. Oh, no. The 70s? Oh, baby.

So there's a little bit discrepancy in points. Yes. That's how you either win or lose games. Oh. I think someone forgot to tell them that. Did they forget to tell them that? I think so because it doesn't seem like they're aware of it. Oh, no.

Anyway. But college students, I guess, you know, they've taken heed to all the badness of cigarettes and are, you know, not smoking. Cancer, yeah, all that stuff. Stop trying to badmouth cigarettes around me, all right? I haven't smoked in almost a year. I don't, the times that I want one have greatly increased. You know, so there's less time that I want them.

That's good for you. Yeah, that's good for you. Yeah, but it's rare that I really feel like I need a cigarette. Now, I'm still chewing nicotine gum, and I need to stop that. I know I need to stop. I need to stop putting nicotine in my body. Can you go into like a lollipop? We'll see.

But I need to get rid of that. But no smoking. And I'm okay. It's fine. I just whatever. I got it. I'm not supposed to smoke. Plus,

you know, my goal is I'm going to not smoke for how many years did I say? 30. I think I'll be dropping that to 20. But, okay, somewhere in the future is my goal. However,

let me say that the college students that are not smoking cigarettes, they're smoking pot. That's fine, right? So the usage, of smoking pot and those same adults has gone way up. I got to go to class. We got to learn about, I think we're watching an AOC speech.

Did you see her with the tranny the other day? She is so cool. Oh man, her and the squad. We have another hit of that, man. Before I go, I got to hit class. I hit class, let's go. Let's send it up. You go into the Bernie Sanders.

rally tonight. Yeah, me too. We have to fire one up for that. Okay. So, I don't know what's next. You can't vape. No, you cannot. Cigarettes.

I guess you left smoking. Smoke a joints. Just don't do anything. Just live a healthy life by not doing none of that. How about that? You've been doing it for a while now for almost a year. Oh, man. Yeah, that sounds exciting.

Doesn't it? Makes you want to just look forward to living, doesn't it? No, it really doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. All right. All right. All right.

So those of you that are familiar with the book that came out a few years ago called the Dangerous Book for Boys. Now you can dry your eyes and breathe easy because there's the double dangerous book for boys. It's out. Why isn't it on your bookshelf as we speak? And one of the authors, part of the Kahn, part of the Igulden clan, Khan Igulden, joining us here on Chewing the Fat.

How are you, sir? I'm very well. Thank you. It's a pleasure. So let's start with the obvious. All right. You did the dangerous book for, boys and you thought man that's not good enough i've got to do more you know at the time which i think

was back in uh 2006 it was pretty much everything that i wanted to put in there we did the bow and arrow the tree house and uh making a go cart and stories of courage and all sorts of things and right but the thing is i had a son i mean i wrote the first one because i had a son and when he got to the age of um about six or seven and i started looking around for the sort of old-fashioned books i'd known when I was a boy myself, they didn't seem to exist, so I set out to write one. But then I had a second son. My first son is now 19, unbelievable, as that may sound. And the youngest son is 12.

Yeah. The youngest son is 12, so he's now running around with bare feet. And, you know, in that time, he was coming home from school and saying, you know, I made a paper frog today that bounces across the desk, or I learned how to sign H.I. behind the teacher's back so I can say hello to him, a friend of mine. you know, and I thought, oh, God, these are good chapters exactly, you know. Yeah.

And the oldest son came and did Rubu's Cube and how to, and for a while he became obsessed with picking padlocks and seeing if he could do it. And these are all good ideas, you know, I thought, every time I thought, if I ever do a sequel, I've got to put that in because that's just a good chapter. So, I mean, what, what happened was is your oldest son decided that he was going to be a criminal and you okayed it. You said, hey, what a great idea. But at least it'd be a good one.

These are the kind of ideas. I don't know what it is. I mean, that's the thing about boyhood. Nobody has told you, look, you know, you're out of shape. You're never going to run in the Olympics. You're never going to, oh, I don't know, have a television program where you create tree houses. No one has said that to them. So they are interested in all sorts of things.

Yes, it helps if you can set something on fire. But generally, they're interested in skills and crafts and interesting costs. and interesting, complex things that mean for a little while they can become an expert. And that's not a bad time. Yeah, you want to know how things work and how you how to do it. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, at the end of the day, I think it is something that gives you immense satisfaction

for the rest of your life knowing how things work, but also being able to do things with your hands. And there's a great deal. I'm not naturally talented. If my dad was still alive and he could hear me talking about doing things with my hands, he would be cracking up laughing because he was a qualified woodwork teacher. and I'm left-handed and he used to talk about me being caggy-handed and the fact that I'm talking about this kind of thing would make him laugh.

But that means I really have to measure everything twice and cut once. It means I've got to be very, very careful when I'm working. And it does mean I'm slow. I'm incredibly slow when I'm working with my hands. But it is satisfying in a way that almost nothing else is and calming in a way that almost nothing else is. And I think that's good for boys. I will say that I do, I am well aware of the measure twice,

cut once rule, but if you actually, if you're actually living that rule, it's really measuring like three or four times and then cutting once. It's not just twice. I don't trust my judgment. Yeah, it's not just. My judgment is just twice. I live that every single day. So I understand.

The other question that comes to mind as we talk about the, you know, the double dangerous book for boys is, you know, I know you have two sons, but, you know, what do you have against girls. Oh, I don't have any of these. Of course, I've got two daughters as well. I do have two daughters, and the oldest is 16, and the youngest is 30. So, of course, they took part in some of the things. This was a sort of delirombed that they knew it was a sequel to the original book when they didn't, actually, when they hadn't been born.

But this is, it's harking back to a time when you put a sign on a treehouse saying, no girls allow them or something like that. Right. Yes, I know private. I'm their father, and I love them. Yeah. very it's private get away from me so as I was perusing through perusing through the double dangerous book for boys I I noticed you have a lot of things like you you discuss the questions about the law part one and a lot of that law is based on United States law and I know that you

went through I see what you went through the Commonwealth but I didn't see any explanation of that god awful British government I mean, do you not know your own government? One of two things we've changed for the American edition, you must realize. I now realize. Because, for example, I did an original chapter on British prime ministers going back to Walpole, I think was the first.

And then, obviously, I thought to myself that as much as I love the Americans, they are unlikely to want to hear about British prime ministers. So I did, I rewrote the chapter as American president. But I'm, you know, a massive Americanophile, so I find that kind of thing fairly easy to do. Right. You know, it's a culture I love in a country I've been to many times. This isn't a massive struggle for me. I'm just giving you a hard time because I've struggled over the past three or four years to understand the British Parliament system.

And I've just given up and said, you know, this is why we left. The last few years a bit. That's why you've left. Oh, my goodness. That's funny. been a bit of a struggle the last few years. A lot of arguing, a lot of discussion. We're like ancient Athens.

We sit and talk and talk and argue and eventually, you know, just before the last week, a decision. But we do get them in the end. It's, yeah, it's a process. So I love the, and when you go down the, you know, the list of some of the things, there's no way to, you know, cover all the, all the, all the information in the double dangerous book for boys, which is what I love, because once you sit, down, you're hooked. You're just, I sat in my office and I didn't want to leave because I was already hooked on the book.

But, you know, you have, my feeling, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like a chemical reactions, making perfume. I mean, that's stuff that you don't really need to know, but it's nice to know. It's, the making perfume one was one where, I mean, a lot of us did that when we were kids. We stole all the flowers from nearby gardens and tried to make them. usually for Mother's Day, trying to make them into something, to boil them up into it. I did it. I had a nice perfume bottle, and it ended up as a horrible sort of brown water, which I gave to my mother anyway, because, you know, that was the only present I had.

And she loved it. Yeah. Oh, she was really sweet about it, but I don't think she ever wore it. I'm not even sure she didn't dab a bit on just that first time. I'm sure she dabbed. It went pretty bad. I'm sure she dabbed a little bit. I love the smell of weed.

It's beautiful. Thank you, baby. But finding out there was a way to do it. There is, believe it's, another French technique where you can press flowers into lard and white lard. The fat soaks up the odor. And then you can make, using the right kind of alcohol, you can make a perfume that is, you know, subtly scented like the flowers you used. And it's things like that.

It's finding out the things we did as kids and maybe improving on one or two, you know, just making them actually work. Some of the others that, you know, you delve into, you know, the history of navigation, Shakespeare quotes, Caesar, stuff like that. That's all information that is so great to have in your mind. But a couple of others that just jumped out at me was, have you actually yourself solved Rubik's Q? Ah, well, that's the thing. My 19-year-old brought it home, and he was the one who got into it.

He can do it in less than a minute, which he's done in public, which was a pretty intimidating moment. No question. He did it in about 42 seconds, which as World Records goes, terrible, but it was still pretty good. And then I had to go through the instructions, and my wife went through them, both of my daughters went through them,

people who'd never picked up a Rubik's Cube. And, of course, the moment when the thing clicks into place, and you're looking at a completed Rubik's Cube, which was previously impossible. Right. It's a very satisfying moment. It is a very, very enjoyable sort of, yeah. And I got news for you.

When I pick the lock, when I picked the lock, and it popped open, when a padlock popped open for the special time. Yeah. Listen, listen, that's what makes criminals happy. That's why they're criminals. I get it. It's okay. But the Rubik's Cube, just so you know, the whole previously impossible thing, that's still impossible here of this program because it's just not happening.

Honestly, I mean, again, I refer you to my hand, you know, if I can do it, then literally anybody can do it. I promise you, I will. in about two good. I did it in about five to ten minutes, I think. Oh, that's not bad. Yeah, I think so. That feels like, I feel, just slowly following. Yeah, that feels like a doable time. Yeah, exactly. It's like I used to say this to the kids with juggling. I mean, I know juggling is a bit of a niche thing, but I used to say, look, take an hour. It takes about an hour with three balls, just trying it. By the end of an hour, you'll probably get it. Not if you start

at the age of 10, you need to be a bit of a, but one hour of your life. That's right. Not, it has to be said, a very good skill socially. It is not. going to win you love and fortune, but it's a fun thing to be able to do if you pass a bowl of fruit. Well, I wish someone would have told me that it wasn't going to win me love and, and together it was forever because it's just like wasted time for me now to learn how to juggle. That is the drawback. I mean, not all of this stuff is to make you a winner with the ladies, unfortunately.

Another thing that happens just so, another thing that happens just so you know, is like, when you learn how to juggle, and I taught myself how to juggle a long time ago, you know, just with the three things. but then you run across the guy that juggles 10 things and you feel just like life is over. Life is over. It's like your son doing Ruby's Cuban 42 seconds. I'm like, why, you know, don't talk down to me. It's okay, I got it.

But when it's your son, you're proud of it. I always say to my son, I'm not in competition with you. I am delighted by your achievements because there is a part of me. That feels like they're my achievement. There you go. I'm just delighted by that. That's right. That's a good message.

One of the other things that you talk about in the book, The Double Dangerous book for Boys, Khan Igoldin, joining us here on Chewing the Fat, is how to write a thank you letter. I'm a little confused on that because apparently my, hey, thank you for your, thank you is not good enough? You know, I don't know. I put that one in because it was something that I thought was important. But, I mean, this comes down to just, it's funny. My brother, David, for example, he gives money to my children every year. And every year, he gets very shirty with me because they forget to write thank you letters.

So we go through this routine where he gets irritated with me. I say to the kids, come on, you've got to write this letter. And then they all do it very resentfully. I mean, I hope you never hit the interview because you probably shouldn't hear the background. But the point is, people really do genuinely appreciate that the words of thanks after an event. So it's not so much how... difference. It's not so much writing the thank you letter. I mean, what

the thank you letter says. It's a matter of writing that, and receiving that thank you for whatever it is. It's the courtesy. The taking a little bit of trouble to acknowledge another human being, it means so much. It's like learning someone's name when you meet them for the first time.

These little things are worth more than we usually understand. So that was the purpose of that kind of chapter to say, you know what, this is more important than you know. On behalf of your children, though, I'd like to say, they probably said thank you to their uncle when he gave him the money at the time, so leave me alone. They probably did. If you perfectly honest, my brother, perhaps overdone that a little bit.

But again, with any likelihood, you won't hear this interview. Oh, we're sending it to him. We're going to set it to him. Don't you worry about it, Con. We've got that. All right, so now that you've got the dangerous book for boys, and you've got the double dangerous book for boys, what didn't make these books that you think now, oh, now I've got to write a third one.

Do you know, almost immediately, after the second one went for print, went to print, my youngest son Arthur came back from Scouts, and he had with him about a three-foot length of a stick, ordinary stick, and he'd sharpened the end, so it looked a bit like an arrow. Right. And then he had attached cardboard flights to it,

so it looked a lot like an arrow with sell-a-tate. This is five minutes work. And then he showed me what they'd showed him, which is that if you just throw it, it makes a reasonable distance like a sort of lawn dart. But if you wrap a string around it and hold one end of the string in your hand, so that as you release it, it imparts a spin, you can double the distance. Nice. And that is incredible.

We went out to a field and proved that if you can make it, it can saw double the distance through the air. And that, I thought, oh, God, I would have loved to have put that in. That will have to wait for a triple danger before I ever get around to doing it. I mean, what else have you got to do, Con? I mean, just write the triple book and be done with it. There's always more. I mean, you know, I did an Italian meal for the double dangerous, which might sound like not the most obvious thing,

but as I said to the boys, if you know how to make a lasagna, you are much more likely in your life to be able to eat a lasagna. And the recipe is for two, one to eat now, one to stick in the freezer, for when you've got no food in the house, and it's a sort of a joy. It's fairly easy to make.

It's a simple, simple recipe. But the one chapter that I couldn't put in was, believe it or not, and now you're going to make jokes about this, but it was food in the hole, which I won't explain, and it's perfectly decent and old-fashioned. But there just wasn't room. There wasn't room. The publisher said, you've got about seven. That's not a bad idea, though.

That's not a bad idea, though. Maybe, you know, meals for the single man, you know. Well, exactly. Meals for dating. I mean, it's not really. my specialty. They're the limit to how many meals I've got. You've got two daughters. What the heck are they doing? Yeah, fair enough. We can do more research on meals for specific purposes, yeah. The British meal, it did not make the cut. So it'll go in the next one.

So Arthur and Cameron, you're just, they're taking the low road. They're not even working out selling the book for you. They're just making you do all the work? No, they have been. I mean, Arthur's obviously, he's still in school. My other son's just finished his A-level, so he's 18, now 19. So he's taking a year off before going to university. Actually, I think he's going to, he's thinking about spending some time, maybe traveling or maybe possibly I'm trying to persuade him to maybe write a book.

There you go. A study guide of something, because he's pretty good at the academic side. You can tie it in with the travel? He can tie it in with the travel? Yeah, well, yeah. He's thinking Canada at the moment because a friend of his has got a friend and a relative. Apparently there's someplace up there. Nobody wants to see Canada.

Nobody wants to see Canada. Well, it's cold. I think it's unbelievably cold. Yeah. Look, there's snow. Okay, we bet here. He will do a bit of that. But they did, the two of them did come to a public event with me.

They signed a few books with me, which is nice for them in London. Yeah. And they also did my, the youngest son did the jumping paper frog, and my oldest son did the Rubik's Cuban pub. There you go. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. That was, that was sitting together that we, you know, that we spent a lot of time as father and sons, and that was enjoyable. You know, nothing else turns out.

You spoke of your father as the woodworker, and that brings us back to one of the areas in the Double Dangerous book for boys was, you know, building. that workshop and that had to have come from that. Yes. It did, of course. I mean, my dad was, you know, genuinely a different, different, from it not just a different generation, a different time. I mean, he was born in 1923. He flew in Bomb and Command in World War II, and his father was born in 1850. I'm looking at a picture of him on the wall, so he was a Victorian who had my dad when he was 73. Wow. So, you know, I grew up with a lot of sort of old-fashioned values. I mean, my dad grew up in a house with no running water and no electricity.

He had gas lights on the walls. So, you know, it really was a, he knew a little bit about not poverty because he wasn't, but there was no money. You know, there wasn't luxury in that time. So I grew up with the idea that unless you could make something, like a table or shelves or, you didn't have it. You didn't have it. Yeah. So that was one of the important things that he passed on to me to take pride in doing things, not, not complex things, but doing simple things well.

Yeah. You know, actually, it's almost a Japanese idea. You know, like what they do with the gardens. It might not be the biggest garden in the world, but even if it's tiny, you can make it as good as possible. Right. It's your good garden. I know. My folks and stuff, you know, they were all, you know, raised, as we go down memory lane here with Conagulton,

talking about parental upbringings. But, you know, we're raised, you know, during the Great Depression here in the United States. And, I mean, if you, they just went without. You didn't have it. And so, and once you had something, you had it. It was yours. And it was save everything and reuse everything. And it was just never, it's a definite different time for sure.

Well, completely. But then these values, these are the values we try to pass on. I hope I've, I pass on a fit. I don't like debt at all. I hate being a debt. I'd rather save for something and go without it than have it. And then by the time, you know, the thing breaks and is useless, I've still got the debt.

I mean, I'm always going on about that sort of thing. You should, you need to get you in touch with my wife. So, you need to just get in touch with my wife and have a talk with a little bit about debt. You know, I'll worry about it. Just, there's a little helpful talk. That's all. I'm just, I don't know. I think it is important, but then that is something we try and pass.

I mentioned my dad, but also my mother was for 20 years enough. in a convent, a closed order. So she took a vow of poverty. So when she came out to have children, she felt her sort of faint guilt about being in the world for the rest of her life, I think, although she loved my father very, very much. They didn't have a, they didn't believe in sort of wasting anything,

wasting money because it was, you know, there were people who had nothing. Wow. That is a fascinating story. That is a fascinating story. in and of itself. I mean, did your mother come out because of the great love she had for your father? No, well, she hadn't met him. I'm afraid she sort of planned it. She was in, as you all appreciate, those are perhaps the 20 most important sort of formative year of your life, and she wanted, he was desperate to have children, and just before the biological clock said no more, she found, she left Ireland and came to England and met my father, and they found in love very quickly.

That's fascinating. And then they had me very quickly and my brother, my younger brother. So my dad had been married once before and he had two older sons. So that's where, you know, I grew up with various influences from him and from them. But, yes, she was an unusual woman. Very, very determined woman. No kidding. Fascinating.

Any, Khan, Iigledon, I appreciate your time. I know you've got, you know, other things to do than, you know, yap with me here on chewing this. I enjoyed it. And the book, I really enjoyed it, thank you. The latest book is the double dangerous book for boys.

And the first one, if you don't have the first one, the dangerous book for boys, what are you doing with your life? But you should definitely get this one, the double dangerous book for boys, available wherever books are sold. Khan and Golden, thank you so much for joining us on Chewing the Fat.

I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. I really enjoyed it. All right, so earlier we were talking about Popeyes. And did you see I don't know, a few days ago, the video, the viral video was out, was where the, you see a person coming out of a fast food joint, which, you know, is Popeyes.

And you see what you, what we find out now as an employee of Popeyes. Pick this woman up, slams her down on the drive. I mean, it was a great slam down. I mean, at the same time, the guy recording it is in his car. And he's got his, he's got his phone out and he's recording it. and at the same time, I mean, the driver, the guy recording it, and me at the same time when he picks her up and slams her onto the concrete. Oh, shit.

I mean, it was, you're just like, oh, it was amazing. Oh, it was amazing. So, and then I was done with it. Okay, we're done. I watched it a couple times. Okay, four or five. And I'm done with it. Well, of course, we have a lawsuit now.

Well, yeah, he picked her up and threw her down. And, I mean, it was a body slammed out. It was hard. And on the pavement, too. Yeah, it was hard. Like that in the grass. It was like in the... No, I know.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I mean... That's why myself in the video recorder was like, oh, it was amazing. Just doing it for Chris. He's so bad at me right now. So anyway, this happened to... The guy doing the throwing down was employee Dariance Rauchael Hughes.

I'm sorry? Dariens Rashaeel Hughes. Hill Hughes. Why are you telling me his name like that? He's telling you his name. Okay. He was the manager. He was the manager?

According to this, he was the manager. Oh, I'm sorry, that did not look like a manager at all. Darians, Arashahil Hughes. Okay. 29, terminated. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not a beautiful.

Well, hold on. They're both on the wrong. Well, we haven't even got there yet, so just calm down. They're both not in the wrong. Yes. No. Nobody did. doesn't need to get slammed down on the concrete like that.

No, I'm sorry. Go with a sort and let the audience decide. That's what we're going to do. Thank you. What are you? The commentator now? I'm Keith. Yeah, no kidding.

Oh, it's worth the story. I already put it in the trash, bro. We're done with it, okay? So. But I highlighted it for you. She has an attorney. The Sharpie on it. I put Sharpie on and circled it and highlighted it.

Like, you didn't get through it. Go to the second page. Go to the second page. Right there. See the Sharpie in circle. I didn't do that just for, you know, that's some giggles. So the ladies are turning.

Told the Nashville Tennessean that the woman underwent two surgeries. Don't believe it. As a result of the attack and we'll need months of rehabilitation. Don't believe it. Ah, boy, that's tough to believe too. I mean...

Yeah, she was sluged. the concrete. Yes, he picked her up and threw her down. I mean, shoulders, elbows, eye, something, you know, head, shoulders, knees, and toes. I mean, yeah. There was some damage. Yes, she did. You can see it. If you slow the video down, you can see. When he picks her up, just before you go, oh, shit, when she hits the concrete, just before then, you can see her in the air going head, shoulders, knees, toes, knees and toes, and then she hits the concrete. Wow. No wonder she needs to surgery in months of, rehab. So according to her, we don't know. Okay. We don't. We don't. We don't.

We don't know. He'll Hughes is not commented yet. Okay. Uh, she claims that she, uh, ate at the same Popeyes on Sunday and paid $13.11 for a meal of corn, biscuits, chicken tenders, and apple pies. Ew. Okay. She gets what she wants. Oh, no. It's America. So far I'm on, on his side. That's a bad order. She got home. Okay, okay. She realized Darien's Russia Heel Hughes charged me twice. I got double billed.

Well, I would think that when you ordered your, you know, this is just me thinking off the top of my head here. Yeah, go ahead. Just spit it out. Between the lines here. That's what we do here. I know. Yeah.

That when you ordered your meal of corn, biscuits, chicken tenders and apple pies, and they said, wait a minute. Stop, I want to see this. She wasn't charged 26, 22. she was charged 1311. So it should have been the six bucks, or right, the 650. Yeah.

So why didn't she say, Hey, why did you charge me 1330? 1311 for, corn, biscuits, chicken, tenders, and apple pies? I get this every day, six bucks. It's never 1311. Well, she wouldn't say that then. She just paid it?

I guess. Okay. So then she called the manager. Who are? He called who? The manager. And which is. Rushaheel.

Okay. Darien's Russia, Heel Hughes. And he told her to come back with documentation in order to get a refund. That's a typical answer from a manager. Nobody's wrong now. When she got there, she claimed she was treated with hostility and anger from the manager. Okay. There were words back and forth.

Okay, okay. The attorney says that the lady denied allegations that she used a racial. slur against Darien's Russia Hill Hughes but said that Darian's Russia Hill Hughes

called her an ugly broke down cracker what's wrong with that I've heard worse this ain't

to receive from tonight you ugly ass broke down cracker yeah no Darius is in trouble he shouldn't be doing that

he's a manager she called him the N word did she I played the video for me and Ron and she said the N word

because a customer says, hey, hey, hey, that does not give you the right to say the N word. What are you doing? She says it twice before and after the customer says, hey, hey, hey, hey, you should not be saying that here. So if you think about it. So now you're on the side of Darius. Oh, absolutely. Darius should have slammed her down. Absolutely.

If she said that raise your comment twice, that's fighting words. That's a fighting words. How about you give me my money back, Darius? Stop calling me the N-word. I didn't call you the N-word before you overcharged me for my corn, biscuits, and chicken tenders and apple pies. Oh, my. So, how about that, Darius? How about you not charge me double in pocket the other $750?

Oh, so now you call me a thief. You know what? Yes, I am. That's what Darius was doing. Oh, is it because the skin of my color? Is it because of my skin color? Yes, it is. It is the skin of your color.

I'm a thief. Because I'm brown. That makes me a thief. Yes. Well, let's go outside of me body. Give my money back, Deras. No. No.

You know why you something crackers? Give me my receipt back. I need my receipt. No. Ugly ass old broke down cracker. No. Just recreated the entire fight for you right there. There you go.

So there's a problem. So who's on the right? I don't think they're both wrong. Absolutely. And this is also another scenario of what we talked about. No one deescalated the situation. No. As a manager.

he should de-escalated. Now, we don't know. It says that she talked to the manager. We honestly don't know. It doesn't say in the story that Darius was the manager. Right? So she talks to the...

Hold on. Just a second. Let me get it out of the trash. Yeah, I highlighted it in a Sharpie, the manager section for you. Okay. I got it. Thanks, Keith.

I got... Let's see what happens here. Okay. So it says she says that she talked to the manager, right? Yeah. But it doesn't say that... Oh, the Darius was the manager. The manager that picked up the line.

She said, she called the manager, and the manager said, back with documentation and get a refund. No problem. She did that, which, you know, any fast food place will do that. And I have done that before. It's it. It's it.

But she said when she got there, she was treated with hostility and anger. That's with Dary Ants, Rasha Hill Hughes. He was just an employee, I think. He was not the manager. I don't think so. Because he does not look like he's a manager from what. That's what I mean. He was.

He was just like a number employee. So she didn't talk to the manager when she got back to the store. She just talked to Dary and she just talked to. She failed to follow instruction. Yep. You know, she should come in and ask Darius to speak to the manager. But then maybe Darius got mad and said what? I don't look like a manager to you.

I don't know. Subscribe to more content. At the blaze.com slash podcasts. I mean, I just realized this is a fat pile Friday. You still got time to do some headlines. I'm looking at the fat pile. It's pretty big. I still have half of the half pile in here.

I was just looking at the fat pile going, wow, man, we did not get to anything. But maybe I should go through the fat pile. You should. Just do some headlines. Because I've got a great stuff. I mean, still not even in the, they're in the computer fat file that I wanted to get to today.

Like the college admission scandals still going on? Lori, Laura, Laura, Larry, pay for my tuition. She might go down hard. Oh, no. Because they just threw the real estate and title insurance executive, I mean, he was just found guilty

of the judge gave him a hard time about it. And we got, we have to go through those. on Monday. We've got to go through who's all been charged so far, who hasn't. It's really ridiculous. The judge called this guy, you know, the judge called him a thief. You're no more than a common thief's actions. The judge calls us, stop it. Judge Digglehead. That's his name? Yeah, that's his name. Dinglehead? It doesn't say that. It says his name is U.S. District Judge Nathaniel Gorton. I'm just saying. So are you reading between the lines? Yes. Okay. And McFarland, the guy who was, you know, part of the deal was he said in his own mind.

He didn't say it out loud. He said it in his mind. Whatever, Judge Nickleberry, he just tried to help my kids out. But holy cow. I don't get Hawaii's taking so long. Like he's got two years, Gorton was also sentenced to two years of supervised release, 200 hours of community service, and 100 hours. $150,000 fine

on top of six months in prison. Oh, that's easy. That's cake. That's cake. I mean, that's, that's not 13 days. No, no, those are hard. In the correctional facility. Those are hard. Camp. And the all-female Camp. Correctional camp.

Camp. That's not that. Includes massages. You can't. Yeah, you can't. You can't. No, you can't. No, you can't beat that. It's two different things. Apple is an orange. Absolutely. Apples and oranges. Yeah. So, I mean, we've got, we've got. We've got stories here. We've got...

All right, let's take a look at the fat line. Man gets third DWI after being pulled over with a chick. So the guy gets pulled over it. The police gets a call. The 911 gets a call. There's a guy driving erratically behind me, and I think he's got a hawk in his car. Okay, if it was me and I'm in front of that guy already,

I'm not calling 911. No. He's driving erratically. I'm already past him. You passed him, yes. Look at that guy. He's got a hawk in his car with a man. Take a video and go world star.

That guy's going to cause some damage. I got to get home. Thank you. But they called. So the police pulled and finally got a double. Hey, you like my chicken? Okay, so he was a little inebriated. A little?

Yeah, there was a few beer cans of stuff in the front of the car. Who hasn't done that? Right. And his cousin was in the car with him. Who hasn't done that either? Now, why didn't they give the chicken to the cousin? So the cousin, I mean, the cousin didn't go to jail. Where's the chicken?

The chicken was taken in. Why? They treated the chicken like the kid? Like, are they going to go through the foster care system? I guess so. I didn't put the, that's, no, take the cousin. Right. Take the chicken.

I know. Well, that's upsetting. Now, the chicken's name was Teresa. Oh, Teresa, the chicken. Where's the Teresa of the chicken? Now, they put it in the back seat with the cousin for a little while. Because, you know.

Oh, so cousin was taking care of the chicken. Yeah, in the back seat of the police car. Okay. All right. But then Milwaukee area domestic animal control commission came and took the chair. That's what Teresa got pissed. You can tell there. We have audio of Teresa from the dash camp.

Teresa was pissed. We're going to give Teresa to the animal control commission. She did not like that at all. We have that story. That's upsetting. Right? Don't bog me that. Can you give me something else?

Yeah, but U.S. Superbug deaths are falling, but infections are on the rise. Wait, what? So something is falling and something is on the rise. U.S. Superbug deaths are falling. Good, good, good. Infections are on the rise. Oh, so we're still getting infected. So we're still getting infected. We're just not dying. Good. We're just wandering around 6. It's a walking dead is what it is. They're not dying. They're already dead. But no, they're not. No, no, but they're not. They're not. Richard Branson.

Blasted for his photo in South Africa. Oh, yes. Jevi, this entire week we've been talking about apologizing and don't. Never bed to knee to the rage mob. Dana Lesh. I mean, she's got, okay, it's fine. She's got that pinned and she's got that tweeted on her Twitter account, but it's my line. Anyway, the never bend to knee.

I mean, I may have said it differently than that. Like, never apologize. That's season finale for Criminal Minds quote, so. Oh, thank you. That's my line. He's going to say, I should pin that as a Twitter pin. Then Dana can't steal it from me like she stole this one. Because she's going to steal my line if I don't turn it to Twitter.

True, true. You have to pin it to Twitter, yes. Do you know how to pin? Because you never pin anything on your Twitter. I never think you've pinned anything to Twitter. Do you know how to do it? I can teach you. Just pin this tweet.

You done? Yes. You piss me off so bad. There's a reason why people want you back just behind the grill. That's fine with me. Put the apron on? Yeah, and cook.

Yeah, that's fine. Out of sight, out of mind. Keep them coming. That's out of side of mind. Only need, call me when you need me. Look up at the screen. Cook what's on the aisle. Absolutely. Don't forget the roach.

So Branson is in trouble in South Africa because he goes to South Africa and he's all happy. He's starting a new. thing in South Africa, the Branson's Center of Entrepreneurship. Nice. It is for all South Africans. Good, good.

Then you... It took a big picture, celebration picture. What's wrong with a picture? All white people. That's what I thought. I thought like South Africa was so white people. Yeah, no, that's not.

Honestly, I just thought like South Africa is the white people area and in everything... I can't help what you thought, but no, it's not. Okay, I can't know what you thought. Unbelievable. I will say that South Africa is a lot of white people

have been keeping the brother down in South Africa for a lot of years. So is Branson doing that? And just so you're clear, the black population makes up only 81%. Oh, that's a high percentage. In South Africa, so, you know,

it makes sense that he wouldn't have anyone in his pictures with him. No, that's 80, it's 81% high? Right, that's what I'm saying. It's hardly, you couldn't find a black person anywhere. No, no. He was looking.

It was. And he only found 15 white people. So he deleted that. picture. Of course he did. Deleted that picture and he put up a couple other pictures. He apologized to? With some black people. Oh, so is this the new version of look I have black friends?

Yes. What do you talk? Oh, what do you talk about? There's no black people. Sure there is. Look, here's a couple more pictures. Yeah, show the people in the camera. There was black people there. See, look. We have cameras in the room tonight. Here's the one. Here's the first picture. And when you see it, you know right away. Look at that. Oh, that is.

Why is there no black people in? That's a lot of junkies. I mean you think that, no matter what country you're in. I know, right? I'm sure. What are you doing, bro? But then he posted these. The black people.

Posted these with people of color. Oh, people of color. I'm sorry. I apologize. I'm sorry. I say black people. Maybe they are just black people in South Africa. Are they?

I mean, that's what the story said. Oh, well, they are black people. Color myself. I think those are like the people in America. People of color? Yeah. That's an American thing? That's an American thing.

Yeah. So, then there's the Rod Stewart's, Story. Who's that? Is that another musician from like old days? Yes. Give me a song. If you think I'm sexy. Oh, I'm sexy and I know it. No.

No. No. No. If you think I'm sexy and you love my body. Ross Stewart. Oh, okay. Anyway, he's legendary. Does he died? No. Oh, okay. Still with us. But he took 26 years to make a model trained city.

I'm sorry? 26 years. Where? To make a model train city in the upstairs of his house. And it's going to be featured in this model train magazine. He's all happy about it. It took years to make. 26 years to me.

It's fascinating. It looks great. It's 124 feet long, 23 feet wide, and it's depicting this American city in the industrial hinterland of the 40s. I like that. I like that. From trackside switchman shanties to vast factories and skyscrapers and the roads are dirty. and it's all detail. It's super detailed.

It took him 26 years. Right. But what I found fascinating is that, well, he was on tour. Think about how expensive and how much money he spent on this. Okay, okay. So you're on tour. Ride's tour is on tour. Tour in the world.

Rodsterer. Okay. I'm singing. Sexy. And you love my body. And then you go back to the hotel. Okay. You rent another hotel room.

Just to work? You can bring your. Come on, man. You can bring your stuff along so you could work on. You can work on your toy stuff in the next room. So, on tour. The toys are not good enough to be in the same room with him. Oh, of course.

Please, no. Stop. So I need another room. Make sure there's a connecting room because I don't want to walk that. Yeah, no, it's connecting. As we connected room. And he says, the hotel was very accommodating. They were able to move the stuff out of the room for me.

What's his name again? Rod Stewart. You're Ron Stewart. Rod. Rod. Sorry. Rod Stewart. You don't think they're not going to move that bed?

I know. Like, what is this? It was very nice. So they're very accommodating. Trust me, if they don't, they're going to be. And I got news for you, Rod. They didn't do it for free. Oh, no.

Check under your itemized receipt. Yes. Right at the bottom, there's like a $250 charge. Take a look at the accountant bill. Okay, for the tour. There's a $250 charge for removing furniture out of their room. Oh, it had to be more than that. Oh, yeah.

But then he's got his people moving in whatever platforms. I don't want to be that intern. Right? That's that intern. that was like, oh my God, I'm going to be with Ron Stewart. Oh, Rod. Oh, Rod, sorry. I'm going to be a Rod Stewart.

So what did you do? I hauled his toy train set around. Wait, what? Yeah, I held this toy train set around. Rod's working on a, Rod's working on a, it's a model, well, it's not a toy train set. I mean, I just call it a toy train set.

He gets pissed when I call him a toy train set. Yeah. It's a model. It's a model railway city that he's been working on. Apparently he's been working on it for a long time. Yeah, but he's not a musician? He loves working on. It's how, yeah, but, you know, when he gets off and he's done,

he's tired. He wants to relax, and that's how he relaxes. And so I just move it into the room next to him. And then when we leave that city, you know, like every night. I was going to say, isn't that every night? So I'm sure that at some of his tours, Rod probably, you know, as you're probably, if you're the train guy, you're like, thank God we're doing two shows in the city. I could take a break for a night.

I don't have to move that freaking train set anymore. So I think you just take it like that. night's moving. I make sure that everything's okay. The other night a bridge broke, man, and he was pissed. Was Ron upset? I thought I was going to lose my job, but I told him, hey, it wasn't me. Don't let it happen again. I moved it into the room. Plus, the other night, then the other night, we go to,

we're in Lisbon. Okay. A freaking hotel doesn't have the extra room ready. Oh, no. There's still a guy in there. I said, you can't. Rod will not have that. There can't be, I can't have the train set down the hallway. No, no, he wants to walk through the door. Yeah. So that guy's got to go.

All right. You know who this is? This is Rod Stewart, right? I got to have it up. The show's over in three hours, all right? He's going to be back here at three and a half. I need that room emptied and cleared and I need my train set in there. Okay?

That has to happen. So I've just found a fascinating that Rod's like, they were so accommodating. Yeah, buddy. It's Ron Stewart. It's Rod. Yeah. Oh, Rod Stewart. Yeah.

Like, dude, what are you going to say no? What do you think the hotel wants to be? Right. Mr. Stewart's on tour and we're touring the world and Rodster, you know, World Star. And he needs two rooms and one of the rooms needs to be emptied because he has a model trail. Yeah, but there's nobody going to be in there. Like, what do you mean empty? There's nobody's got to bring in his railway set.

Oh, you wanted to move the bed and all that stuff? It's got to go. It's got to be moved down. You do not have to charge you for that, right? Whatever. Okay. Whatever. Just don't say anything to ride about it.

Don't look him in the eyes either when you look at him. Don't because he gets pissed. So just don't look at him like that, okay. That's a cool story. Right. That's an awesome story. 26 years, though, he's working on this thing. That's a lot of years.

There's a hole upstairs to his house. He said, I'm fortunate enough to be able to have the room for it. Dude, you're Ron Stewart. Rod. Oh, Rod Stewart. Like, come on. Does he forget who he is? It sounded like, how is this guy?

Like, 70? Yeah, he's in the 70s now. 74. Yeah, like, what do you think? This is like, I am Ron Stewart. Rod. Oh, Rod Stewart. I could do anything I want.

Right. Come on. I know. But it's a cool story, though. That room is so when Do you like Brazilian music? That was not as good as Brazilian music. But it's like that.

It's like those guys are like Yeah, they don't care anymore. No. They don't care. He's working on a stupid real. 26 years. But now what? Right?

He just goes upstairs. That's what I'm saying? Like one now. Turns the train on. Siss down. Drinks a little glass of tomato juice. Ew. Yeah.

Drives through Chick-filet, hoping to get a, you know, a body tea, light on ice and extra lemon. That's McDonald's. No, it was not. Oh yeah, it was. Because the Chick-fil-A is screwed. Never mind.

Yeah, Chick-fil-A. I tried the Chick-fil-A. You don't know that? No, they hate. Whoa. They're haters. Really? Oh, well, against the LGBT crowd?

Oh, my gosh. Is Ron Gay? No, but we just hate people like that. Oh. Plus, I got news for you. Rod's not going through the drive-thru. You don't know that? You don't know that.

It was very nice of, it was very nice of, my children to bring me food. It's very nice of my housekeeper to bring me food. It's very rather than drug going through. You're Ron Stewart. Rod Stewart. Sir, Ron Stewart.

Yeah, he's a sir, too? Yes, he is. Is he with Sir Alton John? Yes. Yes, he is. Nice. Is this an American dude or is his like a British dude? No, he was raised in it.

Oh, yeah, he's not going to Chick-fil-A. They closed a chick-fil-A in England, didn't they? Yes. Yeah, they shut it down. Oh, yeah, they shut it down. But they didn't shut it down because no business. No, they shut it down because they're gayes. Thank you.

Yeah. They're gay biggest. But you can look for it in Railway Modular Magazine, and if you don't subscribe to that. Why haven't you? Thank you. Like, are you serious? Jeffie.

Everybody subscribes to the... I know. The Railway Modular Magazine. Yeah, especially when they're going to feature Ron Stewart. Rod Stewart, the scenery and the structure modeling, locomotives, track work, electricers. I mean, it's going to be beautiful. His attention...

By the way. His attention to detail, extreme detail is paramount. By the way, I feel like that's your way so tight, because as soon as the camera guy comes, and takes a picture with the editor of the magazine. All right, Ron, we're done. Anything else we want to put in the magazine? No?

Okay. Thank you so much for doing this for 26 years. We're not going to have to write down everything you did, are we? Can we just look at it? You can tell us real quick? Absolutely. But you know he's going to sit there and start. This was my first piece.

Holy cow. There's more? So, again, we told them that. They're really accommodating. The hotels, right? When he's on tour, they're taking out the beds. Well, they also provided fans, and they provided other ways to improve air circulation and ventilation. Yeah, so that paint, he doesn't get hot on that paint.

All the glue and everything. Yeah, it's the paint of the glue. Holy cow. Next time you hear, Rod, did you ever make any money on any of your tours? No, we lost money on every tour. I don't know why, though. We can't figure it out. What the heck?

You were sold out. You're doing two to three shows a week. Another problem might have been is that you put Ron Stewart on the sign. It should have been Rod. People would have known who you were. It's the night. I got all these Rod Stewart songs coming back to me now. And don't forget about Maggie May.

Wake up, Maggie. I think I got something to say to you. Oh, come on. All Rod Stewart. All right. That's enough. Have a good weekend.