Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 254 | Who’s Mr. Rogers?, Global Entry Interview, & College Scandals | Guest: Amy Hollingsworth
Episode Date: November 21, 2019Jeffy and Kris Cruz took a ride in a smart car and things got very interesting. More college scandals are happening and more people are going to jail, but Jeffy thinks the wrong people are going to ja...il. A special guest joins Jeffy in the break room to discuss the life of Fred Rogers and his view on life. Finally Jeffy talks with Kris Cruz about his Global Entry interview and after the story do you feel safe? The Simple Faith of Mister Rogers will be of great interest to those who have seen the movie. They will appreciate the exclusive content Amy shares about the faith that helped establish and maintain the wonderful person Fred Rogers was, as depicted so well in the movie. With personal letters between Rogers and Hollingsworth woven into the text, readers will learn the spiritual legacy left behind by the man who can be summed up by one of his favorite quotations from St. Francis of Assisi: “Preach the Gospel at all times; if necessary, use words.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So how big is too big?
Don't look at me like that.
You know what I'm talking about, the size of my television.
How big is too big?
Is there too big?
60 and above, that's way too big.
Wrong.
Because I am, I'm ready to drop.
Where do you stay?
We're you at right now?
60s.
I think I'm on 65 downstairs,
but the projector is 100.
Yeah, see, Amber's got a projector
that we use sometimes, too,
that we can hook up to the phone that projects.
But.
Yeah, because that one is 100,
and sometimes it's not.
That's because it's a projector.
Oh, okay.
All right, but the living room is a curve.
I think that's 60.
I was going to say that 60 to 65.
65-ish curve.
But I'm ready for, like, I want to...
90?
I would like, like, Samsung has the, like, 146 inches to 219 inches.
I'm ready for that.
I like the wall.
Like the wall.
That's what I want.
I want the Samsung wall.
But why don't you just do, you know, like, what Glenn has, just like, six TVs connected.
Okay.
Like, that makes more sense to me than a...
280-inch TV in front of me.
Oh, that's a wall.
And I'm ready for a wall.
Because, I mean, it's a movie theater, right?
Now, Samsung has the two walls available right now.
For...
Between 16 and 23,000.
So a brand new car.
I'd like to see that new car you're getting for 16,000.
Yeah, 23.
I was speaking about the 23.
I'd like to see the new car you're getting for 23,000, too.
Smart car.
Done.
That's not a car.
That's not a car.
It has four wheels.
It has four wheels.
and it gets you from point A to point B,
and you wrote it with me over the weekend.
I did.
So how safe did you feel?
We're going to have to do another video of us.
Yeah, my wife was really mad.
She was, but you know what, guess what?
We're moving.
We're not having time for your little show.
We don't have time for a show.
It's like 10 o'clock at night.
I want to go home.
But it wasn't, and I did write it.
It was, it was, the word comfortable didn't come to mind.
No.
But are you safe, though?
Were we?
Absolutely.
Not a chance.
Oh, my God.
Not a chance.
Were we safe?
If you went over a pothole on that thing, we were flying out, it's probably falling apart.
It's going to, Fred Flintstoning it everywhere.
Operation Varsity Blues.
I can't stop.
Tonight's episode, Varsity Blues.
So the latest person that's been sentenced.
Well, happens. The judge called him nothing more than a thief, a common thief.
And that's what you are, a thief.
Toby McFarlane, former real estate and title insurance executive from California,
sentenced to six months in prison for paying $450,000 to get his daughter and son admitted into USC.
Using fake athletic recruits.
Okay, so that's not his first.
fault how they got in.
The singer and the coaches were the ones that were screwing those students out of that.
He paid, have his kids get in.
However, they got in, they got in.
Oh, what are you, the mobster now?
That's what you think of the mobster?
I didn't do that.
I just paid for that.
I know.
It seems a bit much.
If the guy paid for a building.
Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, county.
I know.
If he bought a building, though, if he paid for a building, the kids would be in.
Then there'd be no problem.
He'd be a hero, a hero at the school.
But no.
He's nothing more than a common thief.
So he gets six months in prison,
two years supervised release,
200 hours of community service,
$150,000 fine,
Operation Varsity Blues.
Now, still the Cove.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Why do you keep saying Operation Varsity Blues?
That's the name of the,
that's the name the government gave to the sting.
Oh, okay.
That was varsity blues.
Okay.
No, but Operation Varsity Blues.
Because years ago, when I wasn't even born yet in the early 70s,
there were TV shows, a Quinn Martin production.
The Quinn Martin production television shows were all, you know, like Barnaby Jones and Cannon.
And they announced it like that.
Canon, tonight's episode, Country Blues.
and a quid martin production.
So when I see varsity blues,
I think of the Canon episode,
Country Blues,
and I want to say Operation Varsity Blues,
a Quinn Martin production.
Tonight's episode, Varsity Blues.
And that's why I say it like that.
In fact, you could probably fight it online.
In fact, do that.
Let's find out the Canon episode.
Canon, tonight's episode,
Country Blues, but just get a canon episode of a Quinn Martin production.
And you'll see what I was talking about.
You asked, don't shake your head at me, you asked.
That's where I was at.
That's where I'm at, so just do it.
But back to varsity blues.
In all, 29 of the 52 defendants have waived their rights to a trial, including 19 parents,
and pled guilty to crimes in deals with prosecutors.
Twelve parents, including Felicity,
were sentenced in the summer.
Only one avoided prison,
and most sentences were imposed in 2020, right?
Felicity got her, you know, 13 days already,
already went to jail in prison or camp or whatever you want to call it,
and did her time.
23 of those defendants
including
Lori Lori Lori Lori
Beep for my tuition
Lori my tuition
and 15 other parents
have pled not guilty
and are getting ready
for the legal battle
and I started to sweat
because these judges are treating them like crap
it's amazing
so you had Singer
he's the guy that should be
go to jail singer the CEO
of the Worldwide Foundation
he pled guilty
pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy to defraud U.S.
and obstruction of justice and forfeiture of $3.4 million and other assets.
He'll be sentenced in June of next year.
So he's still out wandering around.
He just hasn't been sentenced yet.
John Vandemore, former sailing coach at Stanford University, accepted these guys are the guys that are the worst.
in my book.
He pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit racketeering.
Sentencing date is June 12th.
Two years of supervised release, a $10,000 fine, one day of prison deemed already served.
He should do time.
That's ridiculous that he did do time.
The coach is screwing people.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
These parents, these parents wanted the best for their children.
I'm not saying it was good or bad.
It was, you know, I understand that it was bad,
and it was silly that they have all this money
that they're spending to sneak their kids into college
when they could just go to the college,
go to the college and say,
hey, I'll put in a diving board at your pool, okay,
and let my kid into your school.
I'll sponsor a lane on your track.
Do give the school money.
They'll let your kid in.
Jeez.
Rudy Meredith, the former women's son.
soccer coach at Yale University.
She pled guilty.
Her sentencing date isn't until next year.
She pledged guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud and honest services.
Wire fraud and honest services.
Okay.
No, that's ridiculous.
Private school counselor in Florida, the test taker.
I mean, hello.
But he's not being sentenced until next year.
All these people are getting sentenced.
They're still out wandering around.
Michael Sentencing.
Former tennis coach is the University of Texas.
There's another guy.
His sentencing date is in February.
Recommend a 50 to 21 months?
No, the coaches need to go to jail.
Especially the ones who all of these people
were involved in Operation Varsity Blues.
Tonight's episode.
Country.
I love it.
Starring William Cochran.
With guest stars, Scott Marlowe, John Larch,
Ramon Beirai,
Rayne Gerey, Stuart Moss,
special guest star Christine Belford.
Oh, nice.
Tonight's episode, to Ride a Tiger.
A Quinn Martin production.
Where's my Quinn Martin production?
No Quinn Martin?
Never.
bummed me out with that.
Plus, I'd really like you to find
was there not country blues?
No?
Very disappointing.
Tonight's episode, maybe I just made that one up
with my head and it didn't really exist.
There never was a canon episode
Country Blues.
That's possible.
So we'll just go ahead and live with that.
Back to Varsity Blues.
Bruce Isaacson,
real estate investor.
I mean, he's going down.
His sentencing date isn't until July.
All these people, man.
It's really silly.
Lori, Lori, Lori.
She's starting to sweat it, man.
She should have pled guilty and took the time.
She and Felicity should have just done time together at the camp and been done.
Got it over with, man.
But no.
She's...
Dug her heels in.
I'm not guilty and we're going to fight this
and now I think she's seeing the
air of her ways
because Felicity was like
yeah no problem let's do this deal
and I'll do my 14 days
turn it into 12 and we'll be done
and here's a fine and
sorry man life is really stinks
and I'm sorry this happened
and I'm going to go back home now
have a nice day leave me alone
and in a couple years I'll be back to work
I'll co-star in a canon episode.
Special guest star, Felicity Huffman.
Tonight's episode,
Prison Camp.
And she'll star on that and be back to work and everything will be fine.
In fact, Hubby will get her, she'll do some time.
Oh, this is the last season though, right?
Of your show.
Right?
This is the last year.
So it's over.
Hubby can't get her any work.
Ooh.
Shameless is done.
Yeah, Hubby would get her a little work, maybe.
Get her some money.
So that's going to be tough.
What is she over?
Oh man, now I'm feeling sorry for him.
Now I'm starting to feel sorry
because hubby's going to work no matter what.
All right, he's got gigs.
He, they love him.
He's been doing shameless for 11 years or 10 years.
And plus all the other stuff.
Like I said, yeah, he's been doing shameless for 10 years.
Plus all the other stuff, like I said.
I don't think there's other stuff.
It's just shameless.
IMDB him right now.
Don't even attempt to tell me there has not been other stuff.
What's his name?
Bill.
Bill is his name.
And look up Bill on IMDB, and he'll come right up.
Okay, so his name is William Macy.
Yeah.
And then you want to turn on your mic so people can hear you?
Yeah.
All right, so you found Bill.
I found him.
You found Bill.
I found Bill.
And, I mean, he likes to be called William, but I call him Bill because we're buds.
Fargo in 96.
So go down the IMDB, plus all the other stuff.
Shamedless.
Okay, so since the start of Shamedless, when did Shabeless start?
2011.
Okay.
And it has since then, according to you, nothing else.
No.
Let's shut it down.
I'm going to go down.
Shut the IMDB page down now because that's all he's done is shameless.
Okay, I'm going to go down the list of see if you recognize any of these titles.
Crystal.
Yep, love it.
Blood father.
Oh, man.
I've seen that.
I can't tell you how many times.
Room.
Room was great.
Stealing cars.
Dial a prayer.
Walter.
Cake.
Two bit waltz.
Ruthless.
The wind rise.
Trust me.
Singlisha.
Ernest and Celestine.
The sessions.
I'm asking because I'm asking for the audience.
Okay.
I'll pretend like I don't know what these are.
No.
Are they TV shows?
Are they movies?
All those were movies.
Okay.
TV shows versus Versailles.
Then.
back to movies
the Lincoln lawyer
dirty girl
marmaduke
shorts
the maiden
heist
TV shows
ER
he was Dr. David
for a couple
episodes
31 episodes
family man
TV movie
dude this guy has
nothing on his
the unit
you talking about
he was a president
of the United States
on the TV show
the unit
yeah great show
in 2007
love that show
TV shorts
Bobby
dude this is nothing
he's working
all the time. Okay, yes.
Yes. He's working all the time. Like I
said, he's got all this stuff. He has nothing
in there that I, Jurassic Part 3.
Thank you. He's Paul Kirby.
Yeah, he plays the
Paul Kirby. The guy that goes after
that's the eggs, that's the eggs one. That's one of my favorite. I like that
Jurassic Park. The three? Yeah, I didn't like that one. Yeah, that's good. They go
after the eggs. He's the
the, uh, uh, the, uh,
plumber. He has plumbing supplies. He
He's a big businessman. He's a, and
plumbing supplies, yeah, I love it.
And what's her face is his wife? No way, is that
his wife, by the way? No way she's living in Oklahoma
with the plumbing supplies guy.
He did the Hercules TV series
in 98.
And then he did King of the Hill in 98.
That's voice work. Yeah, voice work. Most of the
source of his voice work. Really? King of the Hill
is not actual act? No, it's voice work.
Yeah, isn't that supposed to be here in Arlington, Texas?
King of the Hill? I don't know.
I don't know. Do they think so?
I think it's
Arlington
There's several
There's several voice work
Oh no it's
Arlen Texas
There it is
A straight lace
Propane salesman
In Arlen Texas
tries to deal
With the wacky antics
Of his family
Friends
While also trying to keep
His son in line
Well there you go
Like I said
Like I said
Like I said
I am 100% correct
Hasn't done anything
You have no idea
What you're talking about
There is a
Canon
Country Blues
episode
Season 1
episode 4
So I didn't make it up
No you did not make it up
Okay
The problem is I have to pay for
So I'm not going to pay for
To watch
It
I'm so sorry
I just want the open
It would not give me the open
I have to pay for it
It's a dollar 99
I just want the open
You got a dollar 99
I'll pay you later
No I need to see it first
When you find a niche
like William H. Macy,
just working busy, busy, busy
all the time like I proved in
correct.
This guy,
Kane Hodder is his name.
All right, now when you say Kane Hodder,
mean anything to you?
No.
He claims that he has,
he's the most prolific serial killer
on camera
bar none
murdered more people on camera
than any other actor in history
he's 64 years old
he claims that I've stabbed people
I've dismembered them I've killed people
in unthinkable ways
he's got a kill count of 140
this is just for one franchise
Friday the 13th
he's got a kill count of 146
he played Jason for us
on Friday the 3rd
13th. He is Jason. Cain Hodder.
Now, you've got to believe
what a cool franchise to be a part
of. And then he's Jason. He's just behind the
mask killing people.
There he is behind a tree with the mask. Oh, there he is in a closet.
There he is. I mean, what a great gig.
He has worn the mask five times.
Friday the 13th.
They played the end of the video game.
He played
the new blood. Jason takes Manhattan.
Jason goes to hell and Jason
At Jason Tan
Now he's also done other
cinematic serial killers
as well. He's acted and done stunts
in 170 films
and TV shows
over 40 years.
Hatchet films,
gruesome crudel,
Mog, Ed guy, I mean, this guy
I would love to talk to this guy.
You want to talk about someone
living the American dream
man, it's this guy.
Just a stunt guy
doing stunts,
being the guy that is in the
closet and then the camera shoots too many kills people or he
gets blown up. That guy.
And then he says, hey, we're making this movie.
It's going to be Friday the 13th.
We got this Jason guy who's going to be the serial killer in the movie.
And you just wear a mask.
And stand there.
and kill kids
and kill people in the movie
and then that'll be it
and you'll get your paycheck and you'll go home
now today
today's tough because you're going to have to pretend like you're in space
and tomorrow's going to be tough too
because you're going to pretend like you're in a closet for eight hours
but we'll bring the kids to you
so all you got to do is just be in the closet and when the door opens
slash their head off okay
I mean that's a good gig
that would be fun
and this guy could go anywhere in the world
and nobody knows who he is
right nobody knows
not until now
you're out of him
oh
well don't put the camera on his picture
that I have on the screen then
then nobody turn the camera off
okay thank you
they're all off
but you already say his name
I just said Kane
oh I mean
oh no
oh no his name isn't Kane Hatter
It's like a superhero.
You revealed his identity.
Oh, no.
His name is not Kane Hodder.
He didn't play Michael Myers-A-Zahn.
The whole thing is made up.
The whole thing is made up.
Kane, I'm sorry.
Kane, I'm sorry.
Let me apologize.
Let me apologize to you
and being able to travel around
and not have people know who you are
because now they're going to have to.
Sorry.
I apologize.
What a shame.
This guy can do comic cons for the rest
his life, man.
Kane Hodder's going to be there.
Jason.
Just people bringing them masks to sign.
What do you think?
Cash to show up.
Right? Cash to show up at the Comic Con.
Special ticket to get in to see Kane.
And one item you get to sign for 20 bucks.
Right?
So he gets a cut of that.
So you get a mask.
You get a sword.
Whatever you want to sign, he'll sign at one thing.
20 bucks.
and plus you had to pay to get in to see him,
plus he's paid even just to show up.
That's a good gig.
That's a really good gig.
So this weekend's a big weekend as the big beautiful day of the neighborhood
starts in theaters all over the country and all over the world.
The story of Mr. Rogers by Tom Hanks.
And I think as we look around with what's going on in the world and more specifically here in the United States,
it may be time to bring back Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
So it's a good time to revisit Fred Rogers and what he brought to America.
And I wanted to talk to Amy Hollingsworth, who authored a book, The Simple Faith of Mr. Rogers.
It's been out for almost 20 years now.
But it brings to light what kind of man Mr. Rogers really was in real life.
And really, Amy, Mr. Rogers' neighborhood was Mr. Rogers.
That was him, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know, people have said who have met him.
He's more Mr. Rogers than Mr. Rogers is in person.
And I think it's true because he, when you meet him,
and I had the pleasure of doing that in 1994,
before and that's when we became lifelong friends.
We became friends for the next nine years before he passed away.
But he really is like that except that he's so hyper-focused or laser-focused on you as a
person and your family or your children or your spouse or whatever, that it's just what
you see on television is much more intimate in person.
But yeah, he's absolutely the same person, if not even more genuine in person.
So you became friends with Mr. Rogers.
Did you guys bump into each other on a street corner and say, hey, let's be friends?
No, actually, it's funny because I didn't watch Mr. Rogers' neighborhood growing up because I was sort of out of the demographics.
So my only like real memory of Mr. Rogers was as a teenager, all the awful parodies about them, you know.
So then I had some of them weren't that awful, by the way, but it was a, go ahead.
I mean, some of them were funny.
Some of them were, you know, some of them were disrespectful.
But anyway, so, so then I was working in television.
I had my son.
He turned two.
He started watching television.
He started watching Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
So that was my real introduction.
And I used to just sit down and watch with him.
I'm like, wow, this guy is so much deeper than I ever expected.
And I have a background in psychology.
So I was like, he knows his stuff.
So anyway, I was working in television at the time, and I went to my network, and I said,
I'd like to do an interview with Mr. Rogers.
And they were like, well, good luck because we've been trying for 20 years and he's always said no.
So I wrote him a letter, didn't hear back, didn't hear back, didn't hear back.
So I'm opening a newspaper one day, and there's an op-ed piece by Don Fedder,
he used to write for the Boston Globe.
And the op-ed piece was called It's a Psycho-Babble Day in the neighborhood.
Wow.
So it's like this horrible scathing piece about Mr. Rogers.
So, you know, I had done enough research by that time and spent enough time watching him
that I had a pretty good defense of him.
So I wrote a letter to Don Fetter and told him all the reasons he was wrong and then
ended it with like, shame on you, you know, all that.
So I sent that, so I sent that to Don Fetter.
I don't know if you ever read it.
But I also sent it on me.
Amazingly, the Boston Globe didn't print that?
Yeah, they didn't.
No.
So anyway, so I sent that letter and the op-ed piece to Mr. Rogers people because I'm thinking
And they need to know that there's bad press out there, right?
So then, like, two days later, I get a phone call.
You know, Fred Rogers has a great to your interview.
So I go to Pittsburgh, and it wasn't until I got to Pittsburgh that I found out that it was that letter that convinced him that I was sincere enough to be trusted.
Wow.
And so he knew I wasn't just another journalist after, you know, a rare interview, but I was a mother who was willing to defend him because of what he had given her children.
Right.
So that's, and so that sort of formed the basis of the next nine years of our lives.
So I think there was a trust from the very beginning that sort of laid the groundwork for the friendship that we had.
That's, that's really amazing.
So after you, you did the article, or at least you met with him and did the article,
did you learn anything the first time around, you know, the first time around that you didn't expect.
Well, you know, I was the first person to ever talk about, I was the only person with whom he had ever consented to talk about his faith on television.
So he had never talked about his faith on television.
And he had given like one interview to a magazine, you know, where he talked about his face.
But, you know, this was his medium.
This was television.
So I think that was another reason he waited so long to say yes to me because he wasn't sure.
So he was very natural and forthcoming about his faith in that.
first interview.
And then the, you know, the relationship just continued.
So we got to know each other through letters and phone calls.
And then I also went back to the neighborhood to interview him a second time, again,
for television and again about his faith.
So he was very open about his beliefs and how important they were to him.
And so then now the friendship is developed and you guys were friends for nine years just
corresponding with one another? Did you, you know, stop and meet each other at Ruth's Chris
Steakhouse once in a while? Well, I went back to the neighborhood another time and did an
interview with him and then we wrote letters. We never emailed. We never emailed. I have
all of his letters that I have are handwritten. So we wrote letters back and forth and then he would
call and he sort of had this uncanny ability to know when things were going horribly wrong in my life
because he would just call and say, you know, I've been thinking about you. Are you okay? And then there were
times where I had the same feeling for him where I was like, is everything okay?
And he, you know, he had, you know, he had had surgery that day for a life-threatening
illness. So we really had a deep connection, I think, where we were, sort of knew what
was going on in the other person's life. Well, usually if you have, it's tough to do for a lot
of people, you know, we've listened to yourself. And if you listen to yourself and then act on
that, things usually happen for the good.
Starting to sound like a preacher for a second.
I don't know.
Preacher, brother.
Have you seen the movie yet?
I have.
I have.
I've seen,
I'm actually leaving tomorrow and I'm going to go to the movie premiere in Pittsburgh
tomorrow night.
So I will be with his wife, Joanne, and everything.
But Sony did send me a link to watch it.
And so I, you know, I've watched it twice.
And I mean, it was utterly surprising and thoroughly Fred.
I mean, I was not sure how he's going to feel about it.
It is extraordinary.
It's extraordinary.
And the thing that I took away is that Fred Rogers is in every frame of that movie,
even when Tom Hanks is not on the screen.
It's like it's Fred's world and we all just live in it.
It's done so brilliantly that you feel like you've been with him.
And thankfully, Tom Hanks did not.
mimic or try to impersonate Mr. Rogers, he exudes Fred Rogers. It's just near miraculous,
I think, how Tom Hanks was able to pull that off.
Tom's done a few parts where he's able to pull some rolls off, so I'm sure that he could,
you know, he did okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's extraordinary. But, you know, here's the thing for me.
It's like, you know, Mr. Rogers told me, and I think it's the first thing he said in the interview
is he said, you know, the best gift you can give another person is your honest,
self. And so he said he was quiet and slow, and that was his gift. That was his honest self.
And so when you think about that, and you have an actor portraying somebody who thinks the best gift
is your aunt. There's a degree of separation, right? Because it's not Fred Rogers. It's somebody
portraying him. But somehow Tom Hanks was able to embody Fred Rogers. And there's one scene in the
movie, which I got permission to talk about this, but only with you, Jeff.
Thank you.
There's one scene in the movie where it's on the set, and he's doing the Daniel Striped Tiger puppet, you know.
And so it's during the production in Lady Aberland.
Do you remember Lady Aberlin?
Regrettably, I do.
And I say regrettably because, yes, I've seen many episodes of Mr. Rogers.
Yeah.
Well, she was my son's first crush.
But anyway, so they're talking back and forth and singing back and forth.
And so Tom Hanks is underneath the set in the black puppeteer shirt.
you know,
melding the word,
you know,
giving the word
to Daniel
Stepper Tiger.
So I'm like watching that
and I'd like start crying
because it's like
in that moment
he was so,
he was so Fred Rogers
and it was like,
and then I find out
that the director
had tricked him
in that scene
because she didn't tell him
that he was going to be on camera
he thought just the puppet was.
So he,
so he wasn't even acting.
But that's,
I think that's for
like the vulnerability.
and the authenticity came through the screen.
And that's when I thought, that's Mr. Rogers.
That's who Mr. Rogers was.
Yeah.
So over the years, now you've created many books and authored many books,
and you can find them at amyhollonsworth.com or wherever books are sold,
and specifically the simple faith of Mr. Rogers.
Over the years, have you found yourself since, I mean, he passed away in 2003,
and your book
came out
do you find yourself
with your other works
using what you gained
in experience from Fred Rogers
throughout your life now?
What a great question.
That's a very insightful question.
And the answer is...
That's what I do.
You're welcome.
And the answer is yes.
You know, I think that
when you read the simple faith of Mr. Rogers,
you will see that
well I think he had a vision of who I could be spiritually I think he when we first met he
detected some rigidity in my thinking and so in the book he sort of sometimes gently coaxed me
towards sort of a greater understanding of the mystery of the world and sometimes he pushed before
I was ready and sometimes I reacted and so I tell on myself in the simple faith of Mr.
Rogers about the fact that you know I he he that I something
reacted to some of that, which I'm embarrassed to say now. But I think that I'm much closer to what
he knew I could be as a person than I was when I first met him. And that didn't continue just when
he was on this earth. That continued since he's been gone. And I've learned to incorporate
the lessons he taught me. For example, he really felt like silence was important. And Chris and I
we're just talking about before the program about how loud the world is, right?
Boy, no kidding.
Yeah.
So, and one of the things I've done, I've done this since he passed away,
whenever I travel, if I'm in a hotel for a day or a week, I don't turn the television on,
I don't turn the radio on.
In honor of Fred Rogers, I keep the hotel room completely silent when I'm in it.
And it's just something I started doing, you know, after he passed away, but all these years
later, I still do it, and I do it to honor him and to show him that I have tried my best
to learn the lessons that he wanted to teach me when he was here.
So, I mean, the legacy continues.
That's wonderful.
Amy Hollingsworth, I mean, I don't even know why we have to go any farther than that.
It's beautiful.
I love it.
The movie, obviously, is a beautiful day in the neighborhood coming out this weekend.
The book is A Simple Faith of Mr. Rogers.
by Amy Hollingsworth, and you can find it at amyhovelingsworth.com or wherever books are sold,
and she has plenty of other books that you can grab onto as well. Amy, thank you so much
for joining us today. I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
All right, let's talk a little airlines and a little airline safety and how safe you feel
traveling, going through security. We have one story that talks about a woman claiming the airline
and paid her $75 in hush money.
What?
A whole $75 in hush money?
So a woman on a United flight
from Orange County, California to Chicago
claims that a man seated next to her
played with themselves.
I'm sitting on this full airplane
from California to Chicago.
There's a girl sitting right next to me.
Her boyfriend or the man she's traveling with
to sound asleep next to the window.
I'm going to touch myself for hours on this flight.
And I'm going to apparently make her feel uncomfortable.
She didn't want to go anywhere because I was just sitting there doing what I do.
Finally I had to wash off.
I had to wash off.
So I got up.
Apparently that's what she got up to complain to the flight attendant.
That was after the worst panic attack of her life, she said.
What?
Okay.
I want to talk about this, but just for a second.
Just for a second.
So let's say you're on an airplane.
And your travel mate, sound asleep.
And the guy next to you starts doing what he does.
What are you doing?
What the heck are you doing?
And you get up and move past it
Or you say get away from me
Or
Something, right?
You don't go into it.
I couldn't move.
Yeah, you read the...
I just sat there.
I was shaking for hours
During the whole time
Until he was finished.
You call the people.
You ring that little blue button on top?
She didn't want to do that
Because he was still there
And didn't want him to know
That she was the one complaining.
Oh, who cares?
That's the whole point, right?
I don't know.
That really...
that thinking doesn't sit well with me.
It really doesn't.
That's that Harvey Weinstein mentality of I couldn't do anything.
I was overpowered because he was my boss.
Right.
Shut up.
I'm sorry?
Shut up.
No, but he was my boss.
How about, what are you doing, dude?
And wake up your boyfriend.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Honey.
Definitely.
This guy is doing it.
Yeah.
with himself.
Right here with himself while you're sleeping and I'm just sitting here.
What kind of boyfriend you have?
Hey, Zit Zit.
Hey, flight attendant.
Right.
Hello.
Hello.
How about, uh, well, we move this guy.
Do something.
Right?
So apparently when the man of the flight attendant moved him to another row and then
apparently contacted law enforcement.
So when he got out, went to get off the flame, which is kind of weird because usually they're,
they're waiting for you.
You don't bolt to get off the plane, right?
No, no, they're telling you, ladies and gentlemen, please,
when do you remain seating?
17F, can you please stand up?
Not even 17F, I mean, they're just opening up the doors
and they're coming to 17F and escorted you out, right?
We're leaving.
By the way, give them the middle seat, 17F.
Thank you.
Look, okay.
And so, she apparently,
said what happened, what's going on, what's going to happen to him.
And she claims that the airline gave her $75 in hush money.
Now, is it $75?
Is it $75?
So like the pilot.
Here's a coup, right, here's a coupon for Jimmy Johns in the airport.
So did the pilot took out some cash in his wallet?
All I got, all I got 75.
Can you take that shut up?
Just be quiet.
Get out of here.
Go buy yourself dinner.
Get out of here.
Get something pretty, darling.
You got any money on you?
No, I got nothing.
I got $75 cash.
Go buy a dinner.
You got $70.
I got five.
Buy yourself some shoes.
Get out of here.
What is kidding me?
Come on now.
I want to ask a question as the representative of Fisher Air.
Thank you.
What would happen if this was on Fisher Air?
As a spokesperson of Fisher Air, what would...
Well, of course, listen, first of all,
as part of Fisher Air, we...
The safety and well-being of our customers is our top priority, Chris.
You know that.
Yeah.
And look, the customer was immediately moved to a different seat when the flight attendants were made aware of the issue
and the aircraft was met by our security personnel.
So they didn't call TSA or anything.
They called the airline security.
Yeah, what's TSA going to do?
Sir, do you have TSA pre-check or global entry?
It just got revoked.
The airline security, they can't arrest people.
No, they don't.
It was the security guards.
Yeah.
Actually, I think security guards have more power than the other people.
So you were, uh, you were doing yourself there and a C1F, huh?
Right.
So you flew all the way from California to Chicago.
Pretty good.
I wouldn't have lasted that long.
Anyway.
Well, he lasted the whole flight?
No, not the whole flight.
Oh, okay.
Don't be silly.
It's going to say.
That's a marathon right there.
She said it seemed like forever.
But.
Yeah, of course, because she was traumatized.
She froze up and...
How do you not...
How do you not say, what are you doing?
Honey, look at this.
No, seriously.
You don't wake up your boyfriend?
Seriously, Jeffrey.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Do you...
I'll be...
Maybe for like a couple seconds, like, wait.
No.
No.
Right.
No.
Dude.
But I know...
I know for a fact.
Yeah.
I can promise you
with every ounce of...
being in my body that if I was next to the window sleeping and my wife Amber was sitting in the
middle and home boy here was on the outside on the aisle lane and started doing what he was doing
for a while Amber might just turn and look just stare at him just stare him down like go ahead
I'm here and then it's like then she's waking me up then she's waking me up then she's waking me up
Jeff.
Look at this guy.
And I took pictures too.
Right.
He's Instagramming up.
Hashtagging it.
Airplane.
Hashtag.
I mean, there's just no way that you don't say anything.
Hashtag High My Club.
You just don't.
Right.
Hashtack.
Mile High Club alone.
High Club Challenge.
Are you in the mile high club if you're doing it to yourself?
Oh, that's a good question.
That is a good question.
Because the answer to me is no.
No.
No, you know, it's not true.
It takes too to tango.
How do you not say anything?
It takes too.
And nobody's taking $75.
Oh, I'm taking the $75 bucks.
Oh, no way.
I want a free ticket.
I want a free ticket.
I want something more than 70.
I want something more than what the pilots got in his wallet.
Okay.
With the, that way, the pilot's got 50.
The co-pilots got 25.
That's all we got.
Sorry.
Just don't say anything.
What about the waitresses?
Can they get us something to?
You know what?
Give her a sprite.
Tell her to get out of here if you don't have any cash.
Oh, we're not a spread.
We just got Coke.
Is that okay?
No, all I was a Sprite or a Diet Coke.
Yeah, I got a Diet Coke.
We've got a Diet Coke.
Here you got the 75.
You gave her 20?
Yeah, 25.
No, give it 25.
Here's a Diet Coke.
Get out here.
Don't say anything to anybody.
What do you?
What?
What do you?
What?
I don't think it's true.
No, this could not be true.
It's not true.
We're going to talk about your global entry.
Don't look at me like, oh, he must have forgot to talk about my global entry.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
We're talking about that.
Download and subscribe to more content at the blaze.com slash podcasts.
So, you've been monkeying around, getting here, trying to get your global entry,
so you can pretend like you're up there with that god-awful stuber gear.
Because I've got my global entry.
You should get that.
You should get your global entry.
You just have to fill out all kinds of paperwork and go to 18,000 meetings and get blood test and ankle swab.
No.
Ankle swabbed.
Ankle swabbed.
Yeah, nose swab.
What do they do with an ankle swab?
That's what they did for mine.
I don't know what they did for you.
They're swabbing your ankle.
I got my ankles and my nose swabbed.
I still didn't get it.
So maybe that's a problem.
So.
Did you go to the guy behind?
The Walgreens.
Yes.
That's why you didn't.
Oh, okay.
I thought that's where you win.
It's global entry, not global entry.
Okay.
So you've been trying to get it.
I bet this has been a three-month process right now.
Okay.
And yesterday, I mean, yeah.
So it's a done deal now.
It's a done deal.
You have your global entry so you don't have to go through with the unwashed
masses of TSA.
I'm part of the one percent.
Yeah.
I'm part of the one percent.
Look at you suckers.
Beep.
I'm on.
Talk to you later.
Tompson is rolling on his grave right now.
So I don't have to, I got, uh, uh, I don't have to be there three hours in advance.
10 minutes, max.
Just boop through.
Looks like you guys aren't going to make it.
Boop.
Is it to have to do that?
Yes.
It's head and a, uh, looks like you guys are having a tough time today, huh?
Global.
I'd have to take out my shoes.
Excuse me.
Where's the global entrance?
I'm looking at, I have my global.
I need to get in.
You have to do that.
Oh, absolutely.
You have to do that.
You have to show up at the line and just,
excuse me, where's the global pass line?
It can't be here.
I feel like I have an accent on that.
Like a foreigner accent more than I have for them right now.
You have to do that.
I mean, that's a boss.
Do I have a scarf from a jacket?
That's a law.
The first time you're usually.
The first time.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
After accident.
The first time that there's a long line,
and you've got your global fast,
you just have to look around,
makes you,
oh my good,
Lord,
where's the global entry?
Yeah,
I mean,
you have to do that,
yeah.
Yeah,
my first flight will be December 17,
so I will do it.
So,
uh,
well,
how many,
how many things did you have to get swabbed for it?
Uh,
zero.
Really?
Zero swabs.
Oh,
that's kind of a,
I mean,
good,
I mean, good,
it's not bad.
It was,
so I applied two months ago,
and then,
I missed the appointment two weeks ago.
And then I had a reschedule.
Which is now, I mean, we talked about this.
Look, I remember talking, right.
I remember talking to you about this when you said you had your first appointment.
And I was like, don't miss it.
Because I remember talking to Stu.
And he was like, he had jumped through hoops to go to these meetings with these people, right?
And it was their time.
Oh, yeah.
So you're on their time.
Yeah.
And you're dealing with the Border Patrol.
You're not dealing with TSA.
And so, you know, you mean, you have to be there.
Yeah.
So I missed it and then...
Apparently you don't have to be.
I just don't show up.
Excuse me.
Where's the global entry?
Sir, you don't have a pass.
Oh, I'll be back here then.
So I missed the appointment and then it said my next appointment was in March 2020.
But I had two options.
One option go to El Paso border and just be seen right away
because they don't even take appointments.
You just go.
They do the interview.
Why is that?
It's a border town.
Because it's a border.
Yeah.
So any border like El Paso and they give me two others.
once you do that, like, you just go right through and you're done.
It says, well, they show up as needed to go.
As needed, exactly.
In line and you're there.
The other option was to go to Houston and then wait behind the ticket line
and stay there either the 18th of December or when I'm flying.
That's what they're saying when you're flying.
Instead of going past out TSA, you stay.
Yeah, you stay there and then do the interview.
Gotcha.
So.
I mean, there's, there are ways.
There are ways, yes.
But I wanted to go DFW because we're right here.
So that night I saw there was an opening.
I took it.
I went.
It was two days ago.
And Jeffie...
And since you missed the first one, they were pissed.
Oh, they were so pissed, I for sure.
I believe they took out more questions than originally was supposed to be asked.
Okay.
So how safe am I of the information they got for me?
I know we have limited time here on the dessert.
So I don't want, you don't have to go down the entire list.
Okay.
Yeah.
We have time.
We have time?
Okay, I'm going to go to the entire list.
I checked in with the front desk.
Give me a little pamphlet.
Wait outside, the agent will call you.
Okay.
And I was 15 minutes early.
This is at DFW.
DFW.
Okay.
15 minutes early to make sure that there's no issues.
It's 3.45 central time.
I'm sitting down.
End of the day.
And the little clock said they close at four.
You don't want to go to the judge at the end of the day.
No, you don't.
He's already mad.
He's already mad.
So I sit down.
three minutes
Mr. Cruz
I'm like
oh boy that's not
that can't be good
the little agent comes out
he takes me inside
we go sit down
he said do you have anybody
pat you down
pat you down
swap you
no
I'm big on swapping today
for some reason
he goes do you have anybody with you
I'm like yeah my wife
oh let's go get her
I'm like oh oh boy
it's a double interview
so she got swabbed for sure
I was like she's about to get interviewed
after I get interviewed
right
rubber gloves are going
on, things are happening.
We go get her, we sit down.
Your passport, okay, passports.
Oh, you're from Puerto Rico.
The guy who checked you in, he's from Puerto Rico also.
I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool.
Oh, man, we can't get rid of you people.
Anyway, so.
He swipes.
He didn't tell me that when I checked in.
He swipes the password.
Address, yes.
Phone number, yes.
Mr. Cruz.
So you're verifying where you live?
Is that your full name?
Like, yes.
Is that you email?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, you all said, sir.
You get an email about.
two weeks, and then you get a letter with your card,
make sure you activate it.
You have a good day, sir.
By the way, we're close, so go ahead and get out of here.
There's no lingering because I was shut the north out of us.
Because it was the end of the day.
That is amazing.
But the whole thing, I literally got out at 4 o'clock.
Now, I will say, I will say, and not making fun.
And I'm, you know, I'm making fun of how easy this was.
But the process prior to this is quite extensive.
and you being a former military
have also have all the background checks
and everything about you as well.
Yes, which I think is one of the reasons.
And getting a passport
that you're also doing a...
You already don't do swabbing
and the fingerprinting and the pictures.
My passport just expired too.
Now I've got to go through the whole thing again.
I've got to go through the whole thing again.
Yeah, because you know, and the only reason
why he asked for the password,
it wasn't because he wanted to verify my ID.
The only reason he asked for the password
is because he had to connect the global entry account
to my passport, which is why he swiped it.
So now they're both linked up.
And if I miss my, if I lose my card,
when I come in from, you know, overseas, the pastors,
oh yeah, he's good to go.
He doesn't have to wait three hours on that with the commoners.
Excuse me.
Definitely doing that when I'm coming from overseas.
I'll have to do that.
Yes, definitely doing that.
But it was very, do you feel safe after that interview?
Oh my gosh.
Do I feel?
I'm so happy that we.
Oh, by the way, this is.
It's cost me $150.
That's all.
It's just a money laundering scheme, man.
Absolutely.
Money laundering.
Now, prior to that, how many things you have to fill out before you get to there?
You feel out?
I'm right about, I'm right about it.
One form.
Well, it's online.
It's all online.
No, I understand.
But, I mean, the information you're giving them is.
Yeah, you give them, like, information they already have, Jeffrey.
They already have this information.
Right.
Especially from a person who's been in the military.
You have more than enough of my information.
Right.
Like, I understand.
The military actually.
The military actually.
has swabbed.
Yes.
That little chip on your credit card,
we had that before you guys did.
And that for us had our DNA in it.
So they have plenty of mine.
Like I bet you they have my DNA on file.
This is just a money laundering scheme.
Absolutely.
You want it.
No problem.
And the only reason why I got is because I'm married up.
And everybody in my wife's side of the family,
they all have it.
You have to have it.
And every time we travel.
Keep up with the Joneses.
We've got to go through it.
Yes.
And every time we travel.
We're not waiting for you.
every time we travel together
it's more like
okay Chris we'll see you at the gate
I'm like wait you guys
no we'll see you at the gate
we'll see you at the gate
especially my wife
my wife will disown me
every time we go to
the airport
she goes I'll see you later
I'm like no
see you later
she's like I'm not taking off my shoes
I'm like dude
just take off your damn shoes
I paid for TSA pre
I don't have to take off my shoes
excuse me
definitely
Definitely that one.
Excuse me.
Make sure my husband is okay back here
because I'm going through.
Okay?
That's amazing.
So, I mean, that's good that you've got it.
I don't know that I feel safer?
Absolutely not, Jeff Fisher.
Now, again, I could be different.
But then when I talk to Stu
about his process to...
Tell me he got swapped like 80,000 times.
Jeff Fisher.
And he said he did his much early...
like when it came out.
Yeah.
So I'm expecting, like, by now they're like,
rubber stampings.
Right, right.
It was the same situation.
Yeah, it was the same.
I remember.
When you went to talk to him,
because I was honestly hoping that they had swabbed him
and rubber, rubber glove him, everything.
And cough now, Mr. Stu?
Mr. Stu cough.
Yes.
No, no, no.
You're not coughing hard enough.
There we go.
You got it.
Good boy.
We're going to swap again.
Seriously, what's the swab, indeed?
I have no idea, but I just want someone.
Because you're going to the doctors today?
Somebody's going to be swabbed.
I think it's because you're going to the doctors.
Somebody's going to be swath.
I think he's because you're going to the doctors today.
Right?
The dentist?
Yes.
Yes, I've got this.
Look, let me show you this.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, look at that.
There's no cameras.
Oh, shoot.
No, this one in the back.
Look, they can zoom in.
Zoom in.
Zoom in.
No, let me show you.
This one right here.
Oh, Jeffrey, put you
I know, it's this one right here.
Look at it, though.
There's nothing there.
I know, that's a problem.
Look at this one.
And it hurts.
If I pull on it like this,
ow, oh, that hurts.
But I thought you couldn't do anything
because you had a heart event
and you're on blood thinner.
All good now.
Oh, you all clear.
All clear.
All I have to do is pop like 8,000 antibiotics
an hour before the exam.
And I'm good.
But fine.
Everything's fine.
Okay.
No problem.
Okay.
The rubber stamp.
Did you take your 8,000 antibiotics?
Yeah, okay.
Lean back.
Open wide.
No, your mouth, sir.
All right, before we go.
Okay.
So.
I've heard from the Royal Whisper for a while.
We have not.
And I've got some really good Royal stuff.
And there's, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to bog you down with Royal
facts today and between the line royal facts today.
Just straight to the point.
Straight to the point.
Prince Andrew announced yesterday that he's going to step back from public duties for the
foreseeable future.
Why that could be, I wonder why that could be.
He said he's willing to help law enforcement investigations of Epstein, who also was a
former friend of, a friend of Trump and Bill Clinton's.
He was a friend of Bill Clinton's.
Trump went to some events with him and knew who he was.
They weren't friends.
No, no.
Trump actually kicked him out.
And by the way, Don had his own plane.
Okay.
Clinton was hitching rides on the lowly the Express.
Okay.
That's a big difference.
I love how they're trying to get linked Donald into this.
But Andrew's been taking some heat over No one Jeffrey and
times when he went there and he flew over here and he flew over here to break up with them
because it wouldn't be polite and he's done some interviews and the queen said yeah go ahead
do some interviews and that was that was a big sign when he started talking and the queen okayed it
so now the queen said yeah you can go ahead and do these interviews when you're done doing these
interviews you're going to come out publicly and say you're going to go ahead and step back from
your royal duties no no and we're going to be done with you you're done yeah
Uh, it's, I'm not gonna, I'm not, we're not gonna say anything bad about your Andy and everything's fine, but, uh, oh definitely she called him Andy. We're done. Oh, definitely she called him Andy. You darn right. Oh yeah. You, you and you're, anybody in Windsor calls you a prince again. They're fired. Oh, more like a duke. He's a duke. Uh, it's Prince Andrew. It's a Duke. His title, yes, is Prince, but he's the Duke of, well, I don't know.
Is he still the Duke of York?
No.
Because he's no longer in the public eye.
He is.
So he's taking.
He's Andy.
He's Andy.
And we're taking family photos.
And Andy isn't here.
Oh, darn.
But are we going to, are we going to bring in Andrew for the picture?
No, he's busy.
Who?
Who?
Exactly.
But I did like their statement, because this was tweeted by the queen.
Okay.
And the queen took time out.
Yeah.
She, she tweeted this sandwich, amazing by a 90-year-old.
Before her nap, she went ahead.
She went ahead and hit send.
Can we send this?
Hmm.
It has become clear to me over the last few days
that the circumstances relating to my former association with Jeffrey Epstein
has become a major disruption to my family's work and the valuable work going on
in the many organizations and charities, I'm proud of support.
Therefore, I've asked Her Majesty if I may step back from public duties from the foreseeable future.
And I'm saying that because she's the one that,
told me take a hike and I, and I'm the one that's going to take the heat. So go ahead.
So he learned from dad, because dad also stepped back after that. Yeah. It was it before or after
the accident? No, no, no, no. He was already behind. Yeah, he retired. So what does this
mean for the family, Jeffrey? Well, he continued. You didn't even finish the statement.
Oh, and she has given her permission. I continue to unequivocally.
unequivocally.
Yeah.
Regret my ill judgment,
my ill judge association with Jeffrey Epstein,
his suicide has left many unanswered questions,
particularly for his victims,
and I deeply sympathize with everyone
who has been affected and wants some form of closure.
I can only hope that in time
they will be able to rebuild their lives.
Of course, I'm willing to help
any appropriate law enforcement agencies
with their investigation if required.
But it won't be required
because I'm going to be over here.
The queen is.
I'm not, we're done answering questions.
I believe that once the queen said,
hmm, yes, go speak to the press.
You would have the statement ready, right?
Yep.
Oh, absolutely.
Go speak to the press.
Then you're going to step back
and you're going to shut the hell up.
You're going to step back
and you're going to go away.
And we don't want to hear from you anymore.
And she's been dealing with the Merkels.
Right.
She's been dealing the only one so far
The only one that's being good to the family is a future king.
Yeah.
He's the only one.
William's the man.
Willing is the one that's been the one that's been kept his nose calling.
Now, yeah, he did fiddle and did all the alleged neighbor.
But who hasn't done that?
Who among us?
The wife was pregnant.
She was looking a little bloated.
What am I supposed to go?
Jeffie, what am I supposed to do?
I'm going to be king.
Exactly.
Am I supposed to sit here and wait?
And he fired her anyways.
So we're done.
I'm still, we're not getting a divorce.
I'm giving you the kids you want.
I'm giving you more than one, though.
I'm going to be king.
And you're going to be queen.
And you're going to be queen.
Thank you.
It might not be officially,
but we'll know that you're going to be queen.
You're the queen.
And so just zip it up.
I'm going to want to give you another kid by the end of the year.
So just like mom, you have four kids, four kingdoms.
We all come together.
You know, Uncle Andrew, I mean, Uncle Andy,
just lost his kingdom.
So, so.
Here you go, Kate.
Zip it.
Okay.
Poor queen, dude.
I thought Megan was going to be the death of the queen.
I think Andrew's going to be the death of the queen.
Nah, it's still Megan.
Still Megan?
Yeah.
Still Megan.
Yeah.
Still, because in the Windsor pile.
Oh, we have some great stories.
Yeah, it's Megan.
She's got that family.
Well, Megan is being kicked out.
Andrew is just, and Andrew is just like,
I told you not to be diddling around with that douchebag.
Epstein and there you go you've always been a freak boy and he still says that
picture's fake which you agree with the picture you say the one picture with the girl I
believe that's fair he said he's never met her he doesn't know who that is I I don't
believe everything that he's trying to spew the to the world he's he never met her
he doesn't know who that is but uh you're right you know and I believe that is I believe that
he believes that I don't know that I think that all the drugs and the alcohol might have
skewed the memory a little.
I'm saying.
It's possible.
Can that happen?
For what I've heard?
Yeah.
From what you've heard.
Can that happen if I do like blow and alcohol and I just have sex with like a bunch of people?
Can I forget that?
What I've read.
Yes.
Yes, it can.
And what's your name again?
