Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 271 | Adjusting to Life on the Outside | Guest: David J. Casey

Episode Date: December 17, 2019

A former Disney actress has found success in a more lucrative (and mature) industry. Her reasoning? She didn't want to play the role of a Disney mom. Then, we all know how many newly released prisoner...s struggle to re-adapt to freedom, but why is this? David J. Casey, a man who went through this transition and now helps others in the same situation, joins the program to explain why so many released convicts re-offend and are re-incarcerated. No, this isn't a critical review of The Shawshank Redemption, but it is an entertaining and enlightening look at a serious problem through the eyes of someone who knows it best. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, a Blaze Media podcast. Great news, great news. The cosmic crisps have landed. Yes, hailed is the first apple to be developed in the state of Washington, backed by a marketing rollout plan. It's never seen before for an apple. The new apples are arriving in grocery stores as we speak. Ready for lunch boxes and dining.
Starting point is 00:00:30 room tables. Really? We have apples on a dining room table. The apple, a hefty, tasty cross between the Enterprise and the Honey Crisp is a product of Washington State University Tree Fruit Program. Horticulturist Bruce Barrett first made the cross in 1997. That's how long it's taken to get the Cosmic Crisp. But, but, but, it's It's now available and it's ready to go. So I won't hear of it. Nothing, that we have something brand new, a brand new fruit. The Cosmic Crisp.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Sadly, it actually sounds good. It does. It honestly does. Congratulations. Congratulations are in order. Again, not only to Washington State for the Cosmic Crisp, but Mariah Carey. all I want for Christmas is you has become a number one hit
Starting point is 00:02:07 here in the U.S. Yes, congratulations Mariah. After 25 years, amazing. Amazing. She hits the holiday charts reaching number one. Billboard announced the song finally topped the charts this week. Congratulations, Mariah.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You've finally done it. You realize that she's made more than $60 million in royalties off of that song. Congratulations, Oriole. I mean, good for you. Right. $60 million for that? And don't forget she got the Guinness record in the UK.
Starting point is 00:02:53 She's got like three Guinnessbrook, all from this song. I mean, holy cow. I love the song, but, you know, $60 million worth, If it was my song, yes, I love that song very much. In fact, that needs to be a lot more. But since it's not my song, whew, it's a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It'd be tough to take. Not really that hard. Yesterday we talked a lot about body odor. And should you wear deodor? Should you not wear deodorant? And I got this email at Chewing the Fat at the Blaze.com. And I guess we're back to, we're back to joke of the day on chewing the fat. So, uh, the joke of the day,
Starting point is 00:03:45 a lady on a commuter train is reading a newspaper article about life and death statistics. Fascinated, she turns to the man next to her and asked, Did you know that every time I breathe somebody dies? Really? The man says? Yes, she replies. Have you tried a good mouthwash? Thank you. Be here all week.
Starting point is 00:04:08 As long as we're talking about, you know, females making money, Mariah Carey, $60 million off of Christmas song. Amazing. There are females out there making good cash. You know, not Mariah Carey. All I want for Christmas is you cash. But you remember Maitland Ward? She's a former Disney actress.
Starting point is 00:04:31 She was in Boy Meets World. and she's 42 now. And she now makes more money in porn than she made on Disney and working as a regular actress. She's recently been nominated for two adult video news awards. How proud does that make you feel? And, I mean, at the big porn awards,
Starting point is 00:05:02 she got the Academy. for the best three-way scene as best supporting actress. I mean, congratulations. Maitland, you are, seriously, congratulations. I mean, yes, thank you. Thank you. And, you know, she doesn't look bad. Just looking at a picture here of the Maitland Ward.
Starting point is 00:05:26 She's not bad. She said when people say, she had to turn to porn, I laughed. Because it's a good thing. I'm making more now than ever. If you talk to me when I was younger I would have never seen this coming out of me Wait
Starting point is 00:05:42 Anyway, she You remember her as Rachel McGuire In the boy meets World that was over in 2000 Wow, that doesn't seem I mean 100 years ago In 2013 as a 30-something actress She says
Starting point is 00:05:58 Look I started I started cosplaying I started dressing up My polybuses was like Hey hey stop with the sexy pictures nobody's going to hire you, uh, stop doing the sexy stuff. You should be auditioning for, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:12 to play Disney moms. And she thought, you know, I don't want to be a Disney mom. There's a song there somewhere. And, uh, she decided, look,
Starting point is 00:06:26 I'm making all kinds of money now that my Instagram fans wanted more adult content. So I haven't Snapchat premium account, the porn app only fans, and content service on Patreon. I mean, she's making five figures a month. And she's only using her one figure.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Thank you very much. You'll be here all week. Thank you. It's nice to have a drum set right behind you at all times. I'm telling you, Maitland is, uh, congratulate, again, Maitland, congratulations you've, you're, again. Thank you. Okay. Congratulations. The crowd's still here. I didn't kick him out yet.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Okay. Thank you so much. I mean, okay. You know, darn the luck. Do you want to be a Disney mom or a porn star? Maitland went the porn star way. Also, as long as we're speaking of money, Jeff Bezos was knocked off the pier for a little bit, or off the mountain, really not the pier.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But he was knocked off the mountain as the richest guy in the world. Not for long. He's still there. He's back. It's coming on strong. But it's usually between Jeff and Bill. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are usually knocking each other off from time to time depending on stock prices. And, you know, who's worth more?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Man, that divorce killed Jeff. He's only worth $109, $110 billion now. I don't know how he's getting by. But the new guy on the block are no. Yeah, Bernard Arnault, CEO of French luxury conglomerate LVMH. I believe that is his theme song too, whenever he takes over the top spot. He's risen, he's 70 now, and he added 34.3 billion to his net worth this year. That's a pretty good year.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's a pretty good year. he acquired Tiffany last month. He got, and that included Louis Vuitton, Don Perillon, and the stock rose, I mean, 60%. So, I mean, he's in third place right now at $107.8 billion. But he's now up there fighting, fighting for that top spot between Bill and Jeff. So Jeff's number one, Bill's number two, and Bernard, oh, no, is number three. now. But he's ever so often, depending on that stock price, he's battling for number one spot, just kicking Jeff in the rear a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And it does make you feel, well, it makes you feel sad for Jeff, doesn't it? I mean, gosh darn it. He had that affair, and he got an affair, and I fell in love with someone else. Yes, I was up to 140, 150 billion. I had to pay off my wife. She just took enough to be happy and still leave me at number one. But gosh darned, I still have to keep fighting for number one now. I'm not just there all alone. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Think of that. I mean, think how far he was ahead of everyone until the wife took her cut. And I really think, I still think she should have taken more. But I'm sure she's doing a. with that 30, 40 billion that Jeff gave her. He's probably getting by, okay. I'm not sure if this is good news or bad news. I guess for the company, it's good news.
Starting point is 00:10:30 The restaurant in Draper, Utah, which is, you know, just south of Salt Lake there, Rancheritos is opening back up. So if you're listening to chewing the fat in Utah, and specifically the greater Salt Lake City area, you may be familiar. with Rancheritos and they are back open. So you're able to go there. They closed for a while after they had an employee videotaped peeing into the kitchen drain. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It was not unless he couldn't make it and it was a burning sensation. And the video didn't appear to be a burning sensation. It appeared that he was he was just, you know. deciding he didn't want to go to the restroom. So there wasn't any... Ouch. There wasn't any ouch. It was just a matter of...
Starting point is 00:11:28 It was more of a... And so they started the video surfaced, and they shut him down. And so a customer... I'd like to be the customer of the drive-thru lane. You're videotaping the guy urinating on the drain. Don't worry about my order. I'm good. although if your order's already up,
Starting point is 00:11:53 you beat the pee. So you're taking your order. I'm hungry. I'm saying, no, mine's good. I'll take mine right there. Not from you, though. Have the other guy touch it. Yeah, the other guy could give it to me.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Matter of fact, I'm just going to hop out of my car and get it myself. I'll reach through the window myself. Although you don't know if it was the first time, or if the employees are just, that's a regular occurrence. That's why they were shut down. So they shut them down and had inspection. So for the past three months, they've been closed and I guess busy cleaning. And they, the employee, of course, has been fired.
Starting point is 00:12:33 That's what they say. And they're reopened, though. Good news. Rancheritos is back open. So good news for those of you living in the Greater Salt Lake area. I know you've been missing the lunch drive. through at Rancherito, so it's back up and running.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And hopefully the employees are well aware after training, after specialized training, that they know not to urinate in the kitchen drain right there. Especially where you could be videotaped. Remember, you're always on camera, man.
Starting point is 00:13:07 You got to do something like that. Turn the cameras off. Seriously. Now, I'm a big fan of Coca-Cola Zero. You know that. I mean, I always have, hold on. Oh my gosh. Seriously, a cold Coke zero is one of the best liquid substances in the world.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So Coca-Cola now is launching everybody wants, everybody wants to get a piece of the subscription pie. Everybody wants a piece of it. And I know it's a great idea, and there's all kinds of companies you got, you know, socks are us and belts are us and shaves are us and nose hair pluckers are us and everybody's our house will send you a monthly, a monthly box,
Starting point is 00:13:53 and everybody wants the monthly box from nose hair pickers. Ouch. Ouch. Right. You don't want, seriously, you don't want that. But, you know, if you're paying the subscription fee, you're looking forward to the box of nose hair pickers. But everybody wants to have the box come, right?
Starting point is 00:14:10 I mean, with AMC with the Walking Dead, my son and my wife have a company that sends stuff to us every month. and, you know, it's there, right? I mean, every company wants to be a part of it. So now Coca-Cola has launched their $10 a month subscription service. All right. The first 1,000 insiders are going to get an exclusive first taste of some 20-plus new beverages. So limited number of fans, get the sweet taste in 2020.
Starting point is 00:14:47 so they're just giving you a thousand. That's kind of, wait a second. Wait, I can't do it after a thousand? Hold on. That's not fair. Now I'm mad at Coca-Cola. What the heck? Just let us get the number.
Starting point is 00:15:03 If we're a thousand, if you only wanted a thousand, then I should be able, if you have 2,000, it should be 1,000.1. I'm customer 1,000.1 or 1,000.2. But you get limited edition boxes for $10 a month, or you can prepay for all six months and save $10.
Starting point is 00:15:24 So you can give them 50 up front for six. Once registered, the handpick products arrive straight to your doorstep. Now, of course, they were, you know, in the story. Thank you. In the story. You know, Coca-Cola was inspired from meal kits and razors and pet supplies and makeup. Yeah. they don't mention right there between the lines, which we do here on chewing the fat.
Starting point is 00:15:50 That's one of the things we do is read between the lines. No, his hair pickers. Ouch. And so for 10 bucks a month, you can get Coca-Cola products delivered right to your door and you get special insider drinks that only you as a subscriber to the Coca-Cola Insiders monthly service. You get to taste 20 new beverages. Look, they own, there's the largest beverage company in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They have 500 sparkling and still brands and 3,900 beverage choices for more than 200 countries. Wow. That's huge. So that's a pretty good deal. And I'm sure that now that I'm telling you, you know, good luck becoming part of the Coca-Cola insiders because only 1,000. shoot, that's a That's already a done deal, man Good luck.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Give it a shot though. All right. Thieves are starting to get Coggy. And I don't know, I'm kind of for it a little bit. Just a little. But in Minnesota,
Starting point is 00:17:07 a man was expecting a package to be delivered to his home. And he went out and opened the door to see if this package was there, which is kind of strange, Because most places now, when they deliver your package, they take a picture and they text you and they let you know, hey, your package is there. But, you know, oh well.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So he went out to the porch and there was no package, but there was a handwritten note. And, you know, so apparently the porch pirates, as they're called, are now leaving little notes. So just a quick little thank you for leaving me the opportunity of stealing your package. very nice of you. Thank you, the new owner of your package. So now they're just leaving notes, drop a notes when they steal your package. You know, in Texas, that'll get you shot.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Come up to the porch fires. No, no, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it. Well, no, no, you don't need to shoot people. All you need to do is just get this new package that I saw on YouTube the other day. I'll pull up the name of this guy, but he designed this.
Starting point is 00:18:15 This package, it had four cameras so you could always identify the pirate once they opened it. Right. It didn't have anything of value in it, but it had a glitter bomb. It had two stink bombs in it. And then it had a speaker that went, the package is in motion. Launching recovery procedure now. It's kind of funny. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It was great. That's kind of funny. And as you can tell, Chris Cruz has decided that his holiday vacation, needed to start already. And so, you know, whatever, whatever. You know, if he wants to play a Mr. Big Shot and he can take all the time off he wants, you know, let him go ahead is fine.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But Christian Bustler is sitting in for Chris, and there's no need to find the name of the package. I remember the video, and that's fine. And I understand that that will get you, you know, do that. But there are ways for you to have, you know, Amazon and FedEx and UPS You can have your packages held up You can ask them to be put in certain places
Starting point is 00:19:19 You know Amazon has their Their hub locker locations And I thought really Amazon I always take a picture and text you When they deliver your package is delivered It's there so you know it's there Most places these days are under surveillance
Starting point is 00:19:36 You don't necessarily need to have the you know, the box telling them that they're in motion or have, you know, stink bombs in them. But, you know, they're making it a big crime now in a lot of states to be porch pirates. But I will say that I still believe that that happening in Texas will get you. And maybe more than once. Take that. No, because there's only one guy. I don't. Seriously, there was only one guy, Christian. So he's already, no, he's already laying in my front yard. So don't worry about it. It's okay. You can just put the note that he left back in his pocket. Take your package. You didn't need that last shot. That last shot will get you thrown in jail.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Look who it is in the break room. So as I wander over to the break room today to take a sip of my Coca-Cola Zero Sugar. again. Oh my gosh. Not being part of that new Coca-Cola subscription service yet. I find a story about a Michigan man who robbed a Hardy's restaurant, but he told his lawyer that he committed the crime so that he could return to prison. Well, a judge has made that possible and sentenced him back to 25 and 40 years in prison on an enhanced sentence because it was his fourth offense.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And it got me thinking, why? I mean, have we become that entrenched into a system that, you know, you become institutionalized? And I was thinking about my man David J. Casey, who we've talked to before on the program. And we talked to him last time about the hanging of Jeffrey Epstein. And is it possible? Because David, I don't know if you know this,
Starting point is 00:21:49 He's been a guest of federal and state detention centers around the country for many years, multiple years, and has been out for multiple years now. David, how are you, my friend? Good, good, I'm doing good. Glad you gave you an opportunity to come on and talk about this. So how many years were you a guest at federal and state penitentiaries? 24 and a half almost 25 years total I did a life bit on the installment plan
Starting point is 00:22:22 so and how long have you been how long have you been out now I've been out 10 years now see I mean that's I mean seriously that's fantastic how are you doing how you holding up everything good I'm doing good yeah I'm doing real good I you know you brought this situation up with this guy wanting to return and I actually can understand that mindset because, Jevi, I don't want to get biblical on you,
Starting point is 00:22:53 but the familiarity of the lifestyle, and it's similar to the story in the Bible where the Hebrews were wanting to return back into bondage in slavery in Egypt, because it's easier to deal with the familiarity of hardship than being free doing something new. So this mindset of this guy, apparently, I don't know how long he had been out, but it's a difficult, that first couple years out for somebody that's done some serious time is a little bit of a challenge because it's so much easier. You don't think about it when you're in there. You've got a cable bill. You've got a cell phone bill. You've got a car bill.
Starting point is 00:23:34 You auto insurance, all the light bill, gas bill rent, all these things. You don't have that in prison. Right. You don't have to deal with all that. So some people find it maybe a little easier. I don't know this particular guy's circumstances, but to just say, I'd rather be in there. I've seen it with some senior citizens that didn't want to get out that were forced to be released
Starting point is 00:23:58 because they had nowhere to go. They were in their late 70s and their early 80s. They had nowhere to go. Well, I mean, they are definitely institutionalized. I mean, we all, you know, we remember hearing about it and seeing it in, you know, well, I mean, the classic movie of Shawshank Redemption, where, you know, a man becomes institutionalized.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And, you know, that happens. This guy was 59. He'd been out for, he'd been out for, I mean, a couple of years, three or four years. And that was enough for him. And so, I mean, he'd become institutionalized, I guess. And I find it, that brings up the subject, of helping prisoners when they're in prison become better people and prepared to take on life
Starting point is 00:24:55 outside of prison, which I don't think happens well enough. Well, it probably is not well enough, but they do have all type of reentry programs in these facilities in the state. By the way, I was in the state of Michigan. I've done over 12 years in that state system. So I'm very familiar with it. And they have all types of programs. Now, even in the state of Michigan, they used to have college courses,
Starting point is 00:25:21 training, technical skills, electrical, auto body, auto repair, carpentry, plumbing, college. You could get a bachelor's degree, and it was all at the expense of the state. Well, they noticed that the recidicism rate wasn't changing. This was in the early 70s, and I was in there. in the early 70s.
Starting point is 00:25:42 So they noticed that the reciditism rate wasn't changing, and they got to a point. They said, well, we keep throwing money at this, and it's not doing any good. So they kind of stopped those programs, but they do have re-entry classes. Now, the problem with this too, Jeff, is these individuals that they're dealing with,
Starting point is 00:26:00 the mindset of the inmates and the staff. The staff tends to get to dehumanizing these guys. So if they need to take them through a six-week re-eastern, entry program, they just make sure they show up in the room, dot the eyes, cross the T's, and say that they did it. Right. That's it. So it's not a matter of them really trying to get in these guys' heads and say, man,
Starting point is 00:26:26 you know, you need to be prepared for this. And I'm currently in prison ministry. And so I try to tell these guys there is going to be a, when guys are first released from prison, and I've experienced it because I've gotten out of prison. prison with money and I've gotten out of prison without money. So when you have a tendency to get out with no money, after a couple weeks, you start going into a state of depression in your mind because when you're in prison, you're not thinking about these bills.
Starting point is 00:26:57 You're not thinking about, man, if I can just get out there, everything's going to be cool. Everything's going to be all right. If I can just get out there, well, then reality hits. You get out there and there is no chow-haul. There is no free lunch. There is no laundry service. There's none of these things that you have in prison, clean sheets, bed, heat, air, whatever, water, running water. So you have to obtain these things, and it can be overwhelming if you have no skills, and you're, you're making $200, $300 a week, $400 a week, and your rent's $900 a month, and you've got all these bills, it's overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:27:34 And the guys have a tendency to regress back into familiar behavioral patterns. Sure. Because it's easier, say, man, I know how to get some money. I know what to do. Right. And it's easier just to regress back into the old behavior instead of struggling through because, let's say I'm getting out. And I just did eight years.
Starting point is 00:27:54 My family members, my friends, your associates in the hood, these people's lives have advanced because they've all been working these eight years. Right. So then when you get out, you want the big screen TV. You want the iPhone. You want all these items. And these people didn't obtain them overnight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, but you want them overnight. You want them now. So you're not going to, you know, so it starts putting a challenge and then it's easy to say, well, you know what, I'm going to do this one time. I know how to get some money. Just to get a hard. Just to get a head. Just to get right. Get me a break.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I'm going to do one stick up and that's it. And it just doesn't happen that way because once you do one, you do another, before you know, what you're all the way back into the lifestyle, into the streets, into the behavior. And then you're bad. Yeah, there's been a lot of times where I've seen guys where, you know, you see these cases in the news like this guy, this guy admitted he wanted to go back. But you see a lot of these cases where we see these stories in the news and these individuals were just released from prison or on parole and are committing these crimes.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And I've heard people say, man, he must have wanted to go back to prison. My own family has said it about me, you know what I'm saying? He must have wanted to go back to prison. No, not really. I mean, right, overall, I mean, right, this guy admitted to his lawyer. But for the most part, I mean, look, any criminal doesn't think they're going to get caught, right? I mean, that's the whole point. Yeah, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, wait a minute, wait a minute, Jeff. His lawyer said that? Yeah, that's what. Oh, man, I don't believe no lawyer. Come on, a lawyer. A Michigan man charged with robbery. I'm just teasing you. I'm just teasing.
Starting point is 00:29:37 The lawyer. Which I'm sure, you know, they're all on your side. Yeah, the lawyer, yeah, the lawyer was trying to get his name in the paper. No, it can happen. It can happen. I can see it possibly happen to someone just at the end and just said, man, you know, I'm not going to be out of here digging out of a dumpster. I'm just not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:59 You know, but, you know, maybe that's what that guy chose. Maybe he did really say that to the lawyer, but. Or maybe. or maybe defense attorney Tim Kane just wanted to get his name in the article. That's right. He might have wanted to, let me put something out there, you know. That's really funny. Now that he put that out there, the inmates are going to think he's a snitch.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He's telling the dude's business. Right. So let me ask you this now. And we talk about the recidivism rate and, you know, we have classes and, you know, we have classes and courses that try to help. And I use help in parentheses. The prisoners be prepared to go back into the real world. But and what you're saying is it really doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:30:56 We're just going through the motions because who's teaching those classes are in prison and they've got to keep everyone in line, not just the ones who are almost ready to get out. So how do you change that? It's all in the people's mindset. And I don't, you know, I'm, I've done a lot of time in prison, but I'm not one of these people that we need to let these people out. You know what I mean? People, they need to serve their time.
Starting point is 00:31:22 But here's the thing. I could talk to an individual in an hour, and I'd be able to tell you who's going to return back to prison or not. I would be able to tell you right away. They're broadcasting. it in the prison. Now, the prisons in the parole systems and different methods on releasing these guys, they don't want to stereotype. But let me use this an example. If there's skinheads, and we know the guys associated with a skinhead crew or maybe one of the African-American gangs
Starting point is 00:31:56 that are popular in our culture or Hispanic gangs that are popular in our culture, and we know that they're associating and affiliating with those guys and now you see them on the yard hanging with those same people chances are they're going to the streets to do it right they don't want to change see that's the thing and I think
Starting point is 00:32:15 Donald Trump and some of the people within our system believe these guys just need a break and let's get them out of prison and they all want to do good that is a prevalent that is a prevalent attitude in today's world oh they don't there's got
Starting point is 00:32:31 that are committed to this lifestyle and it doesn't matter if they do 10 years, I've did it, Jeffrey. I looked at it like a bad marriage and I was in gangs and all these stuff and organized crime in 1% of motorcycle clubs. So I looked at it as a bad marriage. I was committed to that lifestyle and the marriage. And for better or for worse, the better was when I'm on the streets making that money. You know what I'm out here living large.
Starting point is 00:33:04 The bad parts of the marriage was when I got busted and had to go walk a bit down. And every time in my mind the way I looked at it while I was walking the yard walking these bits down, I was hoping if I can just stay out longer than I just walk down, it'd be cool. If I could just stay out, I just walked down eight years. I hope I can stay out eight. That's the way I looked at it. So there's no government program that they're going to be able to implement. to change my thinking on that other than keeping me incarcerated to protect the public from my future
Starting point is 00:33:37 criminal behavior. So just to turn around and say, well, let's let these guys out early. They all want to just do good. No, no, no. A big percentage of these people are committed to this lifestyle and criminal behavior and they're broadcasting it in the prison while they're in there. They're talking about it on their phones. They're talking about it in their mail.
Starting point is 00:33:59 They're telling everybody, what their plans are when they get out. And then the government wants to think, then they don't understand why the reciditism rates what they are today. Well, gee, he got a GED in prison. Let me tell you something. I did a robbery one time, and I said that to the people while I was robbing them, and put it in a bag.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I got a GED in the joint. And I just said it. So I was mocking the whole system and mocking the people that I was robbing. Because, oh, they got me a GED. Now I'm all better. Watch this. Yeah. Put it in a bag.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So, put it in a bag. And I put some other expressive. I used a little more, you know, colorful language when I said that. But that's, you know, until a person's mind has changed. And now I've experienced it. So you can't pay me to go out and commit a crime. I've been out 10 years now in October 2nd. It's been 10 years.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So now my whole thing. thinking and my mind has changed. So until a person has that point in their life, when he say, that's it. You know what I mean? I didn't go through rehab to quit using drugs or nothing. You know, I didn't do it. It might not be a bad thing for people to go into rehab. They might hear something that may trigger them to want to change their life.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But I got to a point and I had a trigger and it got me to a point where I said, that's it, man. I'm done. and that's been it. My life is different now because I chose I chose to change and live my life
Starting point is 00:35:38 in a different manner and that's been the change. So how do we determine these guys in there are at that point through their mail through their if the government's listening
Starting point is 00:35:51 to hear an iPhone calls out here we can surely monitor these guys mail in prison I would certainly hope so. Their phone calls exactly. I would hope so. We can monitor
Starting point is 00:36:00 their phone calls and they're talking on the phone, they're talking to the mail, they're talking about, well, I heard so-and-so doing this out there, wait till I get out there, I'm going to have a range over, I'll show him. He thinks he's getting it on, wait until I get out to. I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, and they're constantly broadcasting their future behavior, what they're going to be doing when they get out. But, you know, due to, due to, you know, racial profiling or profiling these people, that's unacceptable. But, you know, if the government, if there's a serial killer operating in somebody's community, God forbid, they bring in FBI profilers and they profile these individuals to try to catch them, to try to find out who's doing it,
Starting point is 00:36:41 but let's not profile them while they're in prison to determine their future behavior. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make no sense. No, it doesn't make any sense at all. David, J. Casey, I appreciate it. I know you're busy man, and I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Anytime.
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Starting point is 00:39:09 But apparently, according to this latest story, there's no supervised injection facilities currently operating in the United States. I thought there was. I thought there was one maybe in San Francisco, maybe one in New Hampshire. It just, I feel like there was one. Anyway, so now Philadelphia wants to be on the forefront of that. So a federal judge has now ruled that Philadelphia, hey, you got a facility where intervenous drug users can get high under a medical professional and those watchful eye, sure.
Starting point is 00:39:47 No problem. And because it's not the same as the crack houses that are prohibited under federal law, well, goody, goody, that means the city of Philadelphia, those leaders, those smart people, those smarter than you and I people are now moving forward with their nonprofit supervised injection facility. called Safe House. Yes, safe house. Now look,
Starting point is 00:40:18 we know that we've got very smart people on the board. One of them is even the governor of the state of Pennsylvania. But we want to be able to let people have a safe place, a safe house, and have a supervised injection facility. I mean, okay I guess why are we still why are we saying that it's illegal then I mean there's
Starting point is 00:40:47 the U.S. attorneys are not going to be happy with it I realize the federal judges are all well it's not the same as crack houses so that's fine the crack houses I'm sure they don't have a they don't have a supervised supervised facility so those are still illegal I mean okay but good luck Good luck, as I'm talking about, you know, it just, it's a strange thing. It's illegal. And yet we're still saying, oh, it's okay. Go ahead. We're fine.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So we do have injection facilities around the world, right? In Canada and Europe, we've got injection. There's injection facilities. Safe houses, supervised injection facilities that are getting driven. drug users off the streets and into a place where they can be monitored rather than arrested. And no, we want that for sure. And we want to be able to take care of them when they overdose. Yes, I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And for those of you thinking, hey, my safe house is at home. I can just be in my house and do heroin. No, that's the wrong, no, that's the wrong drug. Well, you can smoke heroin. I mean, there's plenty of people that are smoking crack and smoking heroin. But when you want to talk about heroin, you're talking about, There's an opioid epidemic that's being rammed down our throats. I didn't finish the smoking of the bind.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I don't feel like I want. I don't feel like getting high right now. There's an opioid epidemic that's being rammed down our throats, that life is horrible. And we're taking away pain killers from good, hardworking Americans. Never mind all the people that are overdosing on heroin. But we want to have. safe injection facilities for all these people.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I'm, it's just a, we're living in a madhouse. No question. And you heard David earlier as well. I mean, we, we got people letting, letting them, let prisoners out of jail because we, we feel like they're going to do better. Okay. Good luck. God bless.
Starting point is 00:43:01 But, you know, at least I could be home. I could, I could shoot up at my special injection. facility called Home and I can watch the new all of the family live tomorrow night
Starting point is 00:43:17 on ABC they're doing it again they're pulling it out again all the family in good times live on ABC I missed the last one I was so bummed
Starting point is 00:43:26 that I missed the last one and the reports were that it really wasn't that good but the ratings were great the ratings were through the roof on it so you're going to have the live studio audience
Starting point is 00:43:38 and it's going to be be live tomorrow night at 8 o'clock 7 central on ABC to catch all the live action. So, I mean, be ready to have fun and watch Norman Lear's all in the family in good times tomorrow night. And you can just lean back and use that special safe injection facility called home. And watch a little ABC and the live all of the family. but really what I'd like you to do is just a little side note
Starting point is 00:44:12 for me is DVR record it because tomorrow night 6 to 9 Eastern I'll be doing a show 970 WFLA and Tampa so
Starting point is 00:44:27 I mean you don't want to miss that download and subscribe to more content at the blaze.com slash podcasts So ring smart home devices have been compromised in a series of, well, we played some of them. And we heard the, we heard the, you know, they're pretending to be Santa Claus and telling me. My favorite was the guy telling the couple to go to a certain website.
Starting point is 00:44:56 They're both like, no. So the company has said that it wasn't us, wasn't our data breach. It was the user accounts. those were individually hacked It's not us We're not using credentials Compromising our other data breaches Not us, it's them
Starting point is 00:45:15 So Still Now they're saying One and four consumers Across the Across major markets Refused to buy a smart device Out of security concerns
Starting point is 00:45:30 So I mean Okay I would say that these home services. And you notice just as a side note, they are not an official sponsor of this broadcast. However, they are a sponsor here at the network.
Starting point is 00:45:47 SimplySafe. Has not had this problem. And so I would say that, you know, if you were looking to use something for your home security, I would go to SimplySafe and make that happen with them. But these other companies that are, you know, I understand what they're saying. I truly do.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's not us. It's you. It's your security. Our security wasn't breached. But it just looks bad. And so I think that they're going to have to find a way to help people better than... It's not us. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's you. We're fine. We're fine with our stuff. Because they're going to want to be able to continue to grow and have customers. And just by saying, it's not us. It's you.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That's not going to make that happen. Sorry to break it to you, but it just isn't. Oh, did you see? There's footage, and it's really bad footage. I wish it was much better. Apparently there's a climate activist group
Starting point is 00:46:59 that decided they were going to block a train that was delivering coal. And there's video. It's dark. It's at night and you can't quite tell, but you can hear the train coming, and you realize that it's there. And they're trying to block this freight train.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I want the news report to say, Earlier today in New Hampshire, climate activists stood in front of a train carrying coal to protest coal being delivered to power plants. The train continued on. Authorities will let you know how many bodies it ran over once the train officially passes the area. I just get, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:48:02 What? You're going to stop the trade because it's carrying coal. And then you're going to expect to go home and have the lights turn on. I don't know if you know this, but the reason the lights turn on is because the power company uses the coal to turn that into energy. So that when you, it gets shipped through the little wire to you. And then when you come in, you automatically expect the flip that switch up. And have the light come on. A lot of countries don't have that.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Want to know why? They don't have coal. Huh. Weird how that happens. So I want to hear the horn trained, and then I want to hear boop, and have a nice day. Deliver the coal. I know they're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I know that. I'm going to do that. But it's sad. And the railroads should not have to worry about that. agonizing. You're listening to the Jackie Daily show. Oh, wait, that's on Sundays.
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