Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 288 | The Circle Meets Chewing The Fat | Guest: Shubham Goel aka. Shooby

Episode Date: January 26, 2020

Last episode of what we are calling ‘Living Your American Dream Millennial’ style. Another contestant from The Circle joins the show to discuss his experience. SPOILER ALERT: Shooby was top two and his bro ‘Joey’ won. Shooby and Kris Cruz talk about the life inside the circle, what is social medial doing to today’s world, and running for Governor in the state of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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since day one, me and my wife when we're watching the circle. Yes, let me forget about this. None of you all listen to all the podcasts. So here's what happened. Me and my wife found out Netflix is releasing the circle. It's a social media experiment. They locked a bunch of people up in this complex, apartment complex. It's like Big Brother meets catfish.

That's how I've been telling everybody. And Sammy did not agree with me on that one, but we'll see if my fan favorite agrees with me. we agrees with me. Shubi, how are you? Like I said, I voted for you

as my fan favorite because I just love your story. You have a fantastic story. Welcome. Oh, thanks, man. Hey, I really appreciate it. The kind words,

but yeah, man, I'm so stoked to be here. So, first, people that don't know you, who are you? Yeah, for sure. So my name is Shubalm Goyle. I'm 23 years old,

24, 24 years old. And, yeah, I'm a California native. I've worked in the tech industry and yeah. And in the tech industry, you do VR stuff, correct? Yeah, yeah. So I work in virtual reality. I'm a designer and then I'm also a co-founder of our company.

So it's two things, yeah, hand-in-hand. Love it, love it. So how did you hear about the social media experiment that Netflix is doing, aka The Circle? How did you hear about it? Yeah, so my friend actually saw a digital, advertisement for the application for the circle on Facebook. And then he sent it to me.

And I thought, you know, because of my extreme views, this might be such a great, like, testing ground for me to, like, you know, see how I would do someone like me, how I would do in it. And how were you familiar when it came to social media? Did you use it or would you just, like, it's there, but I'm not going to use it? Yeah, I mean, so for me, I've, I've been around. Like, I, you know, I'm born and raised in the social media age, right? So, I mean, I've had Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter since the beginning.

But I use it very minimally. And when I use it, it would usually for work or projects I'm doing. So, I mean, I was, like, mildly informed on how to use them, but I didn't use them, like, you know, anything crazy. And I love your way of thinking when it comes to social media. So explain people, what is social media to you? Yeah, I mean, so, like, I came into the circle saying social media is social Medusa. Because, like, my theory is that, look, no matter where you come from or what you do, social media is harming your mental health. And we're all addicted to these platforms.

So I think, you know, there's a lot of things that have to change with social media and we all have to improve it. No, I agree. I agree. You know, you got first you have social media being used in political ways where if you don't agree with me, we're going to bash you and bully you. Or you got the other way where someone is posting a picture and they get bullied. in that picture and that person, you know, goes into a dark depression. So I agree with you that, you know, social media is the Medusa because you don't know what you're getting. And one tip for everybody that does no social media, just don't read the comments.

You know, it's addicted. You know, you hear people do it for the gram, you know, do it for the likes, you know, but it's addictive. So you went into this experiment, you know, they flew you out to England, three weeks. did you get out of it what you thought you were going to get out of it? You know what? It's so interesting because I came in there thinking social media is the worst and in many ways I still think there's a lot of bad of it but I did learn a lot from it

like I did learn the art definitely pros from it and I think I looked at social media and a very black or white thing and when I learned it's just as complex as everything else there's a lot of gray so you know I learned a lot I grew a lot from this. You know, just being in this experience was like a wonderful, tremendous cast. I learned so much from them.

I learned so much about myself and the experience. So, you know, I thought I was going to teach everyone coming in there, but the truth is I learned more than anyone. And you found a bro. Yeah. You found a bro. Yeah, and I made connections that will last alike. So I'm, yeah, thankful more than anything.

So that, first, because you're bromance with Joey is. very authentic because one you don't know if the person that you that is joy we as the audience know that is Joey but you don't know if it's actually joy or someone's playing with you like Rebecca was we'll talk about Rebecca later but like the Joey you know it was very authentic and and Shuba a Shubi I want to call you Shubi because like that's the coolest name but Shubi like the way you approach everything I love and more people people need and one of the reason to tell people to watch the circle is just watch your

reaction the authentic and I agree with you that authenticity is what's missing in today's world people you know put filters and they and they don't speak their mind and the way you approach the game because I'm a big fan of Big Brother and I don't know if you watch Big Brother on Steve-Bin's oh I love a Big Big Brother fan yeah I'm a big brother so in Big Brother you could see a strategy you can you do your alliances You align yourself with the strong people because there's endurance and their strength, you know, competition. But in this game, every way I thought it, there's not really a strategy other than being who you are and being authentic. Am I wrong?

Yeah, man. No, I totally agree with you. I think it definitely plays into a game like this where if you break down your barriers and you become vulnerable and your peer and you're who you are. It definitely helps, yeah. And I think it proves the, yeah. Go ahead. go ahead. No, and I think, yeah, it's a good, I think more than anything, catfish, non-catfish,

I think everyone's going to take away a lesson from someone in this game, which I think is the best part. It's not just some reality show. It's a lesson, I think. I do agree with that because that show is very diverse. And not, okay, guys, calm. I don't mean diverse. But I meant, like, you can grab a little bit of Chris, a little bit of Joey, a little bit of

Shuby, a little bit of Sammy, Sean, all these species. And you could be like, you know what? I'm not going to take that side of Seaburn, but I like what he said here. Well, I'm not going to take that side of Sammy. I'm going to take a little bit of here. And you can literally learn what to do or what not to do in social media. Yeah, no, I 100% agree. Like, it's definitely, you know, you're going to, exactly, you're going to look at all these diverse people and you're going to see, okay, you know what?

Maybe I can do this more or I can do this less more. Or maybe I see a lot of myself in, you know, Seaburn or Chris or Shoebomb, you know what I mean? So it is very good that way. Yeah, it is. So now let's talk about the game. Let's go day one. You're at the game. You're supposed to put a picture, you know, of yourself on this, on the circle.

You decide to put your picture of who you are. Other people decided to be catfish and other people decided, you know, to be themselves. But you picked you. Did you already know that you want to be yourself and not someone else, like a catfish? Yeah, I knew coming in there like, yeah, I wanted to be my. myself because I wanted to do a hypothesis and see, you know, how well someone like me with my views and my background, how I would do in a game like this. That's, I, I give you mad props for that.

So, still on day one, ratings come in. How difficult was it to rate people on just looks or whatever they put on their status in the social media? Oh, man, yeah, it was so tough because on these first impressions, we only got to through the profiles. So you're judging their bio what they wrote, you know, if they would be warm to you, you're looking at their picture, seeing if you're similar backgrounds, or, you know, there's a little fact that you guys could connect to, or maybe they're giving catfish vibes, so you rate them low. So it's so difficult because you have no, you have no conversations

with them. You're just going off your judgment gut, you know, so it was very difficult, yeah. You also not only connected with Joey and kind of made a alliance there, You also connected with Seaburn, aka Rebecca. He played his girlfriend. You also had a connection with her slash him. At the finale, you got to meet Seaburn. Did that shock you or did you have in the back of your head with everybody? That person could be a catfish.

I'm going to just brace myself. Oh, no. You know, it's funny. I called myself Sharky Shoebaugh on the Catfish, Hunter, but I was so wrong about so much. Really? Yeah, I didn't suspect Rebecca the whole game and stuff. And so yeah, when I saw her, like I was, it was a shock. Like, I was so shocked more than anything.

But, you know, for me the thing was, like, it was always a brother-sister thing. Like, it was so pure. Yeah, there wasn't no, like, love connection, like, Adam. Yeah, I don't know why everyone is just so gung-ho about that. Well, see, I say, I say, As a audience, we want to think of, oh, that's a love connection. But then at the same time, we're like, no, it can't be a love connection because that's a dude. You know, and he's playing his girlfriend.

Yeah, and I think narratively, we're always just so easy to judge and classify. Yes. People aren't used to, like, opposite sex and just being really good friends. And, like, so. It was very interesting. It was very interesting. So now you came second. It was the top three, like I said last week, it was Sammy, top three, you're top two, and then Joey won the whole thing.

That relationship with Joey has that flourish more? Have you guys still talk? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was so happy for Joey. And like I've said, like he's my best friend in the game. And our relationship in the circle is translating to the outside world. Like, we've hung out. We're always talking.

So, yeah, man, I'm really thankful for that bond. Now, one of the most saddest moment in the entire series. Sure. The entire episode was when you let out this little bit of nugget of you made PBNNJ sandwiches for everybody that was eliminated. Okay, back story. If you got eliminated, aka blocked from the circle, you as the person that got blocked, gets to pick where to go. and no one knew where that person went. Well, Shubi, I want to know about your peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that you made every night someone was blocked.

Now, did you make one for yourself and one for somebody else, or did you just make one sandwich for both of you to share? No, so I made one sandwich for them, and I would just cut it in half, and I would assume they ate both sides, but if they wanted to split it, we could eat together. And, you know, the thing was, I was influenced her four times, and I felt terrible for sending people home. And I just thought, you know, if they visit me, I want to create at least one, you know, a good moment. A little positivity in their, like, final dread of the game. And, you know, I know it sucks for what they must be going through. So if anything I could do to help, to be great. And for someone that was literally an influencer, influencer, four times.

And had this thought of social media, Medusa, how did that make you feel? Did you feel like you had a target in you back? Oh, yeah, man. I mean, listen, like, after the first or second time, I was by far the biggest target from the beginning to the end. That's how I see it. So I really just so scared that someone was going to take a shot at me. But luckily, you know, I built great bonds with people,

so they had my backs and I had theirs until the end. But yeah, you're right, man. I had this impending fear that I was always the biggest target by far. I was going to ask you this, but I feel like you already answered it. Why did you think that the target that, honestly, I say, I thought you had, was never, like, people did not go after you after you, I don't know, send people home? What did you think that?

Yeah, well, you know, I think the reason is because at the end of the day, I gave people my word based on the emotional connection we had, and every time I saved them, it just reinforced it. So not only was I telling them, like, word-wise, but action-wise, I was saying it. And we just built such deep bonds. And I think, you know, because of that, it was just like a snowball effect.

Every time it just, my word became stronger and stronger. And at the end of the day, the question everyone asked from a strategic standpoint is, if this person is influential, they have my back. And for four of them, I had the backs for a lot of times. So I think that helped a lot in terms of that. But I do think if you were a new player, of course, you're going to look at me like I'm a huge target.

Yeah, yeah. Also, you also were able to get a video from your dad. How was that experience, you know, three weeks away, and here's the video from your dad, you know, rooting for you. How did you feel? Oh, man, I mean, that was so incredible. Like, my parents are my best friends. So just to see my dad's video at the end. It was so nice.

It felt like a full circle. I was just so thankful. I love him so much. It was great. That's awesome. That's awesome. Now, Shubi, the game is over. You've had, you know, a couple of, yeah, a couple of months to, you know, to just breathe, you know, and the release was out.

What is next for Shubi? What's in your, you know, you did this big experiment. And I'm calling this series, I'm calling this, living your American dream millennial style. Because it's close, man. Because you're living the American dream, but our way, I'm also a millennial. And, like, I'm living my American dream my way. I don't need to, you know, someone else tell me how to live my America dream. So what is next for Shubi?

You know what? I'm just going back to work and, like, I don't know, man. If I get lucky enough to get on TV again in whatever form, I'd love to do that. I mean, it was such a great experience, TV or film. And then, I don't know, man, you know, I would love to go maybe back to politics in five and ten years. That would be great. And that's the next question.

Because I, this podcast is, you know, the whole. part of like political and commentating. One fun fact that a lot of people might have dismissed was that you ran for governor of California. Yeah, yeah, I did. How was that? That is amazing. At what age did you run for governor?

What? At what age did you run for governor? Um, it was two years ago, so I was 22 at that point. Okay. What made you run for governor of California? You know, man, I was just, I've been to California native and I thought, with my experience, you know, I was born in the public education system here. I went to the UCs. I felt like with my work experience, I felt like I could bring a lot of value in like

platform that would address the whole state. And I felt like, you know, it was just a different like viewpoint I could bring. And I thought, you know, I can be eligible to run. So I should. And yeah, it was amazing, man. That is so cool. I don't know if you ever watch Parks and Rec, but when I hear someone, you know, as young as us, you know, like 22, 25 and they want to run. Yeah. Yeah. for governor. I like I think it was like Ice Town, you know, the mayor of Ice Town in Parks and Rec. But that is so cool that you did it, you know, because, you know, we all get, we all can complain in a way that is different.

It's actually, you know what? I'm going to put my foot down. I'm going to actually run for something if I want to make some change. Shubi, where can people find you online? Because obviously now social media is a different place for you, right? Oh, yeah, man. I mean it turned from like a vacant lands to like the wild west. Yeah, yeah.

You can find me on Instagram or Twitter or Facebook. You just type my name and you'll see the, I think I have a yellow background profile picture. You do, you do. And then we learn from Sammy if you find the circle social media page, they only follow the contestants. Yeah, correct. So if you don't know how to spell Shoebaum or Shoebe or Shoebe or. Or you had a lot of people called you so many different names. And I'm like, that is great.

But anyways, you can find Shubi there. He is a breath of fresh air when it comes to social media. Shubi, thank you so much for, you know, for talking to us. I wish you the best. If you decide to run for office of any, let me know. And we'll bring you back so that we could, you know, see what you are about. Oh man, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much having me. When holiday prep means cleaning every corner, reach for Pine Soul original Pine.

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