Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 294 | Baby Nut vs. Baby Yoda, Super Bowl Halftime Show, & UFOs/UAPs | Guest: Dr. Michael P Masters

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

Once again Jeffy has to apologize, do you believe his apology? Jeffy realize that his front windshield in his vehicle that is cracked and he's asking you a question, should he fix the window? Super Bo...wl commercials talk goes a little too long because Baby Nut appears on the screen and the CTF prediction was WRONG! JLo and Shakira performed at the Super Bowl LVI and people in the conservative world didn't like the 'sexiness' they saw. Dr. Michael P Masters joins the show to talk about his latest book 'Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon' find out more via idflyobj.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, a Blaze Media podcast. Welcome to Chewing the Fat. Monday edition. Those of you listening live, February 3rd, 2020. I want to lead with our mistakes to what we do here on Chewing the Fat and the Blaze television and radio network. I want to apologize for a mistake that was broadcast on this very show. We said goodbye to the lady who just passed away last week, the oldest woman on earth, 127 years old.
Starting point is 00:00:42 However, we said on the podcast that we found audio from her, and we played the audio. It came to my attention over the weekend that, that this was not the 127-year-old lady. I know. So we spent the weekend when you heard thinking that it was her, no, it was the 3,000-year-old Egyptian priest, Messiaaman.
Starting point is 00:01:29 And he said his department, wished was to be allowed to speak in the afterlife so he could address his gods and be granted entry into eternity. So let's hope that this has happened for the great Egyptian priest. Again, I'm sorry. I have a question that I don't know if I'm going to get an answer today, but if you're listening live to the podcast. 888-90-3033 is the phone number
Starting point is 00:02:45 where you can just email me chewing the fat at the blaze.com. You can tweet me at Jeffrey JFR, Facebook me, Jeff Fisher Radio, Instagram me, Jeff Fisher Radio. How long can you drive in your automobile when you've got a huge crack all the way through the front windshield?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Can you drive for a couple of days, a week, a month? until the next thing hits your windshield. Then you're good. Then you're good. Sell, I'm fine. No problem. Don't worry about it. Well, you have a crack in your windshield?
Starting point is 00:03:16 So I get in the car. I've got this. You can see where some sort of, I guess, rock hit the windshield, which I wasn't aware of. But when I came out to get in the car, it's this huge crack all the way through the front of the windshield. As your official lawyer, I want to have you to keep your mind shut. because I feel like on your way home today, there's going to be a truck that something fell off and hit him cracked your window
Starting point is 00:03:47 and you need to call that number in the back and say, hey, one of your trucks just crack my window. Okay, side note, the insurance covers it. So. Again, there's a truck right here on that, whatever thing is. So I called the insurance and I'm like, I'm coming in. They come to you.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Well, you can go there too. Oh my God, you're such a boomer. Oh, just stop. I want, there was nothing available this morning except to go in. Okay. So I went in. No problem. Got the windshield.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I'm good to go. It's going to take a couple hours, maybe. I'm hoping for, you know, an hour, hour and a half tops. And they pull it out and there's an issue with the replacement windshield. Oh, No. I know. Another crack on that one, too.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know, some kind, there was a mark going through it. It could be manufacturing. It might be, you know, a Chinese windshield. I don't know. Oh, the Corona Chinese. Could be the Corona windshield. I don't know. So now they're coming out.
Starting point is 00:04:53 So I was like, well, I'm, you know, you're sending one of your boys out now. So you still have a fix. Correct. But if something, if that thing, I keep thinking that it's just going to. No, I don't think windshield's worth that way, though. They're more sturdy. dirtier than that. Well, I'll go by what you say.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. How are you being a windshield expert? Have you not driven by Florida? You see all those crack windshields? From the rock haulers? Yes. Yeah. You still got time.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I hope so. Because I mean, the crack is, it's not like, hey, a rock hit my window and there's a little breakage. It's like there's where the rock hit it. And it's from the top all the way down to the bottom. Passenger? Like in the middle.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Oh, in the middle. Ooh, I know. That's integrity. Hold on. You didn't tell me what's in the middle. I thought it was just, you know, like a crack that was like on the. No, because I think, I think that at some point, I'm going to be, it's just going to break down in. Break half into the middle.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah. Yeah, in middle is that's integrity of the windshield. And, I mean. Who you sue in? Who do you sue? The truck or the windshield. Now it's the windshield place. Yeah, the fixer.
Starting point is 00:06:08 The insurance company. Yeah. We're not making it. I mean, they attempted to make it right and didn't. They didn't even put like at least tried to put like that glue thing. It was just like, hey, no, look at this. This one's windshield screwed up too. So, I mean, we can try to get you another one in here today.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Be, you know, I don't know when they can deliver it. I think the best bet for you is to drive with a tarp on your lap or like on the console. I'm going to be doing that. You just put a tarp on the council. So as soon as you see that, then come, we just lift it up. And then push.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Then I'm safe. Then you're safe. Then I'm good. Yeah. All right. Or you can use tarp it out now and then you just put little holes and you'd be like a Muslim car.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Either or. It works for the Muslims. It can work for you. It doesn't though. No, but they think, no? Oh, that's a million dollar idea right there then.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You're tired wearing your, they put a top in your car and then now it's a Muslim. Muslim compliant car. Today is the brand new Hajim for a car. Come on down. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So I could be, I could go at any minute. Yeah, you could go at any minute. And with your luck, I'm sorry, now with the official luck that you have. Right? I would not be driving that vehicle. Look for my Instagram post with a windshield
Starting point is 00:07:26 jammed into my arm as I'm driving down the interstate at 75 miles an hour. My gosh, I got to shut up. That might have. All right. So let's get to what the world is talking about today. Super Bowl, post Super Bowl. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Who won? I still don't know who won. Kansas City Chiefs defeated the San Francisco 49ers. It was amazing. I said all along, I was rooting for Kansas City, but I just felt like San Francisco was just really tough to beat. Their defense was tough to beat. And I thought that if Kansas City got behind,
Starting point is 00:08:16 like they had in the previous two games in the playoffs, that they wouldn't be able to come back, they had. Wrong. They got behind and still. I mean, the fourth quarter, amazing. They came back,
Starting point is 00:08:29 won the game, just shut down San Francisco. And more than it was. Correct. Nice. More than true, you called it? And you guys finished.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Records aren't important. It's not about the records. You see, it's not about fun. I heard you said that on Friday. And I was upset when you said that. I'm a records guy. So what was your record?
Starting point is 00:08:48 They're not important. What's the record? Nine and ten. Nine to ten. Nine and ten. Nine wins, ten losses on the season. Okay,
Starting point is 00:08:55 that's the moron tribut. So almost 500. What makes it 500? Like 10, nine? If we were... No, I know. Like, how many points do you get? Like, how do you get 500 from nine wins?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Well, you can't. Okay, so how do you get where you guys are now then? That's what's almost. So what makes you get to 500? If we, if we, yeah, if it's 10 and 10 or 9 to 9, 8, 8.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But how does those number add up to 500? It doesn't. So how do you get... Don't bog me down with factual. I'm not bogging you. I'm trying to learn this game. I'm just trying to figure out how you get to 500 from 10. We were correct.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's all I care about. Did you put money down? We're called the Super Bowl. Oh, man. It's not, first of all, more on trivia is for entertainment purposes only. Well, that's dumb. Well, look, now there have been people who have used it to enhance their wallet. We can't stop you.
Starting point is 00:09:48 We just don't recommend it. The last few. seasons have been really good when records were important and they counted and it was great. Not this season, no. Not this season, no. This season, you may have lost a couple of bucks. Well, you lost 10 games. But we won nine.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But you won nine. Almost 500. So you almost break even. Almost 500. Almost 500. So the game, it was exciting. It was fun to watch and I was happy that Kansas City won. Good deal.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I was also happy that Kansas City, Kansas won. Yeah, what is all about? I'm confused. Oh, my gosh. I said that Trump was getting beat up. I read it and thought, oh, good. People and people like yourself wouldn't have gotten it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So this is the snobs. Well, it's the people who are correct. The people who know what they're talking about. I like my president. He's like, don't bog me that much. I know. And he gets to write it off a little because Kansas City is a dual city. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:49 There is some of Kansas City in Kansas. Okay. And there is some of Kansas City, most of Kansas City, and the state that it's recognized for is the state of Missouri. Okay. If you're from Missouri, you have grown up hating Kansas, and you don't really recognize that part of Kansas City. Is Kansas City inside Missouri?
Starting point is 00:11:12 And inside Kansas. And inside Kansas. The state line runs through the city. Okay. All right. So there's Kansas City. Didn't I just say that? Are you, are you, by, well, it's a lot of making sense?
Starting point is 00:11:22 No, see, you're not because for me it's like, okay, so what? Okay. That's where I'm at right now. Because people in Missouri do not count Kansas. Kansas. Oh, they're dead. Correct. But Kansas does count them. Probably.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Okay. But since we don't like Kansas, we don't like them. Okay. No, we don't. And people that are listening to this podcast in Kansas, I'm not. I'm lying. I love you. You're the greatest thing ever. No, but you said you don't like that. No, I do, though. Oh, man. The salt. The salt mines in Kansas are just with some of my favorite places on the planet. Kansas is known by the salt.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Kansas is, you know, they have the salt mines. Yeah, they're the giant salt mines. Oh, that's so cool. A lot of people don't know that. I do. I do because I'm a Kansas fan. However, I just will say that for years, my son went to the University of Missouri. I was going to ask you, do he... And so people from Missouri hate Kansas. Okay. Do not like Kansas.
Starting point is 00:12:27 So what the Trump did, it just basically he spat on their face. Yes. But not really. But so what he should... Well, because technically some of Kansas City is in Kansas. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:37 It's just that the chiefs are recognized really from being from Missouri. Missouri. And so then he deleted the tweet, which I thought was a mistake. Oh, absolutely. That's a cofefeu little bit. over again. He should have just left it. He should have just left it. And then maybe replied to his
Starting point is 00:12:52 own tweet saying, I know there's a, I know that. Yeah, I should reply to his own tweet. I know the people of Missouri. And make it a joke. Yes. Like he actually meant to stare up the pot again. Yes. Instead of by deleting it. Did you call Trump last night? You know, I got old girls' phone number if you want. Or as you know, I got old girls' daddies for a number if you want. Got my cockobee's some kind of him. I mean, there's some kind of brush with greatness. You talk to my cockabee, my hugby tells us that to say, daughter, daughter reaches out. And then you all in.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah. And you're in. But no. No? No. That didn't happen. But someone should have advised him of that. Yeah, that's a good way to squash that.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yes. Because then you still have the people. But you delete it. Yeah, that's a mistake. You delete it. Now you're done. Now you're saying you're screwed up and, you know, it was it was dumb. You leave it.
Starting point is 00:13:48 and you replied to it with, I know, shut up. It was, you know, I'm just messing with you. Missouri, Kansas City. I love you. And you just explained whatever you did in less than 140 characters. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. And then you're good. Oh, absolutely. And the haters are still going to hate. Yeah. But then the people like me and be like, oh. See? So it's a, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Right. Yes. Instead, he deleted it and now it's over. Now it's like, you did screw up. You did sit there and do that while you were. you know, sitting on a toilet after the Super Bowl and you shouldn't have done it because you just I can take care of my own tweets.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm the president. Well, that's who he is. I know. I know. And then we had, you know, there's everybody talking about the commercials and we can break them down if you want. Did you like any of the commercials? Some of them were okay.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I watched them online. Some of them were okay. You know, they were cute. The only one that I liked was the Tom Brady. Yeah, that was cute. Because I was like, oh my God, he's could announce he's retiring. I had that like vibe of like he's going to retire.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And then it was just Hulu really pushing this crap that they really are not provide. Like, I'm sorry, but that script that he read, that's not what Hulu has in their programming. That's $5.6 million thrown down the toilet. Right. Because you're not providing that content that you advertise for. So, you know, the Bill Murray Groundhog Day one was good. I like that one.
Starting point is 00:15:15 You know, I like that because, you know, I like the, I like the... You liked the Doritos one? Hey, it was all right. I felt like it was that kid. Like, we are, he's overplayed now. Yeah. He's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I did enjoy the, the commercial at the beginning where the kid is running. And then he, you know, they, you knew, you knew halfway through he was, they were going to end it with him running into the stadium at the beginning of the game. That was, that was, that was cool. I like that. And they had all the stars in it. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You go get him, kid. And I like the, I like the idea of Joe Montana during the commercial. with the Garoppolo, the quarterback of the 49ers, playing in the Super Bowl, carrying his bags. They put the bags in the car. You got a tip him? Yeah, I got a tip for him. I mean, it's just kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I like the Hyundai, smart pack. Oh, that was funny. Funny. Way too strong, though, with the whole Boston accent. But that was the point. Yes, yes. The over-the-top point of that. And you had John Krakowski and...
Starting point is 00:16:13 Right. I had them both. The chick from SNL and freaking Captain America. great cast. Who was the black guy from the window? He yelled down from the window. What's his face? You know.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You know what's his face. You know what's his face. Oh, and the big reveal. The big reveal. We gotta get to the big reveal. Just going to. It's so bad. I think our idea was way better.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Well, I think we still be maybe right. Really? I didn't get the vibe, though. Really? No, I got a vibe above a million. Millennial Peanut, aka Baby Peanut. I just want us to be right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes. Yeah. And I could see like where people, like there's like 25,000 people watching the stream that Mr. Peanut. I mean, I'm sorry. And that's what we're talking about is the planter's peanut.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yes. And the rebirth. The rebirth of Mr. Peanut bush growing from the gravesite. I love how people was like, peanuts don't grow like that. The girl underneath the girl. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I was so. That's not the plant. The point was revealing the new Mr. Peanut, which I'm sorry. So now we have baby Yoda. Disney should be suing. I think so too. Disney should be sued right now because that is completely a... I know.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Our idea would have been a lot better. Yes. Thank you. You literally stole that from the Mandalorian. I know. I know. That millennial who pitched you the idea just got done watching Mandalorian and said, hey, we should do a baby peanut.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You know, they had the, right. I mean, who's he doing a baby peanut being rebirthed? He was cute, though. It was cute. And I did watch him go to sleep. And I did spend maybe two hours of just watching baby peanut sleep because that's what the live stream was all about. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:09 So after he was birth, he was in his room and he did a little bit dancing and he did a little bit of eating. He did a little bit of continued dancing. All planters peanuts. Of course. Yeah. Okay. And then.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He's eating himself. At the end, he got tired. Well, that's what babies do, right? You know, then the moon came out. The sun came down. Moon came up and the baby got into his crib and started sleeping. And I just sat there thinking that maybe has to wake up at least, you know, every four hours the baby wakes up to eat. You felt like a real parent.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I did. I did. I did. They're so beautiful. Let me tell me to every kid is beautiful when they're sleeping. Oh. Oh. Sorry, I think we were not synced up in that one.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Maybe we talk about that next side. You know, we had the Audi commercial with Macy Williams singing let it go. Okay. You know, it was just the whole, oh, the weather tech with the dog. But agonizing. But I know we loved it because the dog and it's a beautiful thing. And lucky the dog from last year's Super Bowl campaign. just tugs on your heartstrings.
Starting point is 00:19:21 There wasn't any creature created by a company was. Remember, like, baby monkey? I don't think so. There was no creature creator, right? That's a mistake. You know, there's tons of them that are okay. They were all okay.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The internet kind of has soured the commercials, you know, but they're all trying to be PC, and we're all about everybody, and it's a wonderful thing. But then you get to the halftime show. And as long as we're recapping the Super Bowl, we can recap the halftime show.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I liked Shakira. She was great. J-Lo was J-Lo, and that's what you get with J-Lo. Did I think it was horrific because of her dancing on a pole. No, that was her stupid movie. That was her latest movie. That's what they were.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And what was it, the hustlers? Is that what it called hustlers? Yeah, the hustlers or whatever. And that's what they were. They were strippers and they were stealing from the rich guys. I am so upset at the disgust of people saying, I know. This is literally, I cry.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I know. I was crying because I saw my Republican flag being flown at the house. at the halftime show. It was pride. It was pride. It was pride. It was pride. It was my entire culture being displayed.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And then everybody was like, oh, strippers. There's a bunch of strippers up there in booty and crotch shots. And I'm like, so you talk about being super diverse. I'm sorry, but that was the most diverse. No question. Dancing I've seen. And that's what I said. African dancing.
Starting point is 00:21:15 He had the Colombian dancing. You had the Puerto Rican dancing. You had literally everything was represented there. There was more women than men. There was some men dancing, but there's more women than men. There was a crowd of kids. The crowd around the stage all had their little watch bands on. It's all lit up for the show.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You tell them. Jaylo was J-Lo, which is, you know, she's... That's what she... And Shakira. Shakira was great. The girl that says her hips don't lie. You got offended because her hips were turning your husband on. Shakira was a thousand times better than J-Lo.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Absolutely. Yes. There's no question. She has been all along. I know this is J-Lo's year and we're supposed to bow down to the great J-Lo, who's 50 and looks great. Looks great. Does she? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Does she? Well, next to Shakira, no. But 50, you are what? Can you go up on a pole and do that whole dancing? Oh, man. Exactly. Yes. No, you can.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And I have an exercise pole in my home. Yes. That I use. Oh man. I do that. Even my wife that is white as snow was like, oh my gosh, that is the coolest thing ever because they had the poll dancers. And people were doing tricks.
Starting point is 00:22:26 They were not sexualizing anything. Well, it was tricks. They were not Jeff Fisher. Yeah, they kind of were. As a person that is. I don't care, but I'm just saying it was, I'm fine with it. That is married to a person that does all that stuff, aerial, whatever you call aerial, aerial stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yes, aerial stuff. That was not stripping. They were just. dancing and expressing themselves through interpretive dancing. But I was so pissed. Wow, are you working for the NFL now? No, I'm working for representing my freaking country. Well, first of all, oh, don't even.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I was so happy when she took off that, I was like, oh, that's American flag. And then she took it off. And she was, oh my gosh, no, it's not. Well, she had it both. I know. Okay. I know. And by the way, the daughter.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Great. Great. And I just want to correct everybody that is listening. that singing gene she did not get from J-Lo she got that from daddy you did not know her daddy is Mark Anthony thank you so all of you out there that just
Starting point is 00:23:24 all of you all said oh my god that is not J-Lo that is Mark Anthony so that is daughter of Mark Anthony that was great that J-Lahilo loves her daughter and is showing her off and giving her an opportunity but that gene is not from J-Lo yes J-Lo can dance can perform
Starting point is 00:23:43 but J-L yes she's You can't sing as her daughter or as Mac Anthony. Yeah, it's a little. Yes. A little. So stop giving all the glory to J-Lo. Yeah. But you're going to give it to Mark Anthony because that's his daughter too.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yeah. So, and by the way, great halftime show. 14 minutes of horror. Then we had a couple other things from the Super Bowl that, you know, we have to get into. I love the, you won't know who he is, Wilford Brimley, the actor. Are you serious? I know who he is. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:24:18 They were asking about Andy Reid looks like Wilford Brimley, the actor. And so they were questioning it on Twitter. And Wilfred responded. He's like 100. He responds from his Twitter account. I'm the diabetes guy. Really funny. And he also responded that I can't believe people actually remember who I am because
Starting point is 00:24:38 he's 100 years old and hasn't been acting in a long time. He still rolls out. But he's been in Christmas movies. and he's been in some great movies. I love him. He's been in some good stuff. He's not a big person that you would be considered listening to the Blaze kind of guy. He is on the other side of the fence politically for a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So there's that. But it was funny. And then we find out, and I also love that where they send the jerseys, you know, both teams prints all this merchandise. merchandise for winning. And then if you lose your merchandise, do they burn it? Do they sit it on a shelf? No.
Starting point is 00:25:24 They give it to needy people in other countries that they hope won't end up back here in the States. So somewhere around the globe in some, I don't know, Swaziland maybe, we'll have to ask our ambassador to Swaziland. if he's seen San Francisco 49ers Super Bowl champ T-shirts on kids because that's where they would send it. And so if you want some San Francisco won the Super Bowl merchandise, wait a couple days and check out some needy countries around the globe
Starting point is 00:26:03 and you just may get yourself a T-shirt. All right, it's time to go to the break room. I need to drink a Coca-Cola zero-sugar. I know it's not the new Super Bowl commercial Pepsi Zero Sugar. Oh, I'm sticking to the Coca-Cola Zero Sugar today. And as long as we're in the break room, oh my gosh, look who's here in the break room. Dr. Michael P. Masters, joining us today on Chewing the Fat. Dr. Masters, how in the world are you?
Starting point is 00:26:49 Thanks for joining us on Chewing the Fat. I'm doing great. It's fantastic to be here. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely. You're welcome. So Dr. Masters is the author of a book that talks about, well, UFOs. And do you consider them UFOs or UAPs or what do you consider them, Doc?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, I mean, any of the terms from the past, I think, are applicable. They all kind of refer to the same thing, just different terms we've used over the years. But I think you're right. UAP is a more recent, more military-based term for them. And we've heard quite a bit from our military in the past year, year and a half, specifically the Navy that have come up with some, you know, seeing the Kit Kat and the Tick-Tac and whatever other little candy they want to name them. But they've had them in the air.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And they've also, in that one report, they talked about seeing them underwater. with maneuvers. Yeah. Which was really, really fascinating stuff. And that was kind of buried in that original report. But I thought, wow. I mean, that's something that, you know, not a lot of people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So in your book, you claimed something that got fire with a number of people, that you thought that the UFOs or UAPs were time-trived. traveling humans from the future. Yeah. And I could not agree more. I could not agree. A lot of things about the phenomenon
Starting point is 00:28:33 certainly makes sense in that context, especially if you look at not just the craft themselves and how the form of the craft seemed to indicate that they might have the function of returning to the past, but also the form of the alleged alien beings, the crazy, especially as they're
Starting point is 00:28:52 described. They have quintessentially human and hominin characteristics. They're bipedal, upright walking, which is the trait that we use to define our evolutionary lineage. They have all the same cranial facial features and the same places and just a slightly more advanced form than what we see throughout the long history of human evolution on this planet, namely a bigger, rounder neurocranium, the upper skull, smaller phase, more retracted face. So look at all of that together. It kind of indicates that they're just us coming back through time. So the book, Identified Flying Objects, the multi-disciplinary scientific approach to the UFO phenomenon. Now, do you, in your educational life, do you teach this or is this something you do on the side?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Well, I mean, the vast majority of things in the book I do teach, yeah. It's really just applying the knowledge that we have developed over decades of finding fossil humans and fossil hominins and in really trying to put it in the context of the UFO phenomenon. So, yeah, I teach all of the things in the book. But as you mentioned, it's multidisciplinary. I draw on modern research from astrobiology and astronomy and physics to build a case around this. but it really doesn't hinge on the UFO phenomenon. It just takes what people report and vetted accounts and things like the Tick-Tec instance that you mentioned, more vetted accounts by police and military,
Starting point is 00:30:29 and just applies our knowledge from these different scientific fields to what people are reporting to try to understand it in the best way possible. And I feel that sort of the Occam's Razor approach is just the, yeah, they're us, the continuation of us into the future, both biologically and culturally, with more sophisticated technology. I've often felt that, and I've said this for quite a while now, I've often felt that we are so, what made me think that you're correct, and one of the, I always thought, I knew it,
Starting point is 00:31:00 is that, you know, I thought that we're close as humans to, you know, we see the people say, have they, you know, they had one, look, what looked like one eye, or, you know, the head was just a helmet-shaped head or whatever. I often thought that we're close now to, if I could personally, just put on, say, for, you know, as a description, say like a motorcycle helmet or a spacesuit helmet. And, you know, you have the glass where you can look live out to what's in front of you. But if that glass was a, you know, a computer screen where you get readouts and pictures and be able to talk and communicate through that, if you were to travel and then come back, that's what we would see, right? I mean, that's what you're saying. That's what we're seeing. That's what's being reported.
Starting point is 00:31:53 We're talking about, you know, the traveling of these beings and coming back. So what do you make of how far, I mean, people are going to say, well, how come we're welcome they're traveling in the future and coming back to see us? Do you feel like they're coming, they were here and left, or do you feel like they are are they've we are they we're like a you know a petri disc and they're just coming back and seeing how it's growing yeah well i i don't think that that we left and came back or went to another planet and came back from there i think really they are just our descendants in the same way that we can look at our ancestry going back 100 years 100 000 years two million years and see that
Starting point is 00:32:41 we're the result of that we don't have the technology yet to go back and do it But they require us to exist now and to continue to exist into the future for them to be in that future. So I think they're just our distant descendants. And the question of why is really fascinating, too. I mean, everything that's described in these abductions is exactly what I would do as a paleoanthropologist if I had access to this technology. So taking the hair samples, fecal samples, skin samples, and probing and prodding and trying to get as much information as possible. currently we're left with just fossilized bones and teeth. So if we had access to living tissues and we could study the culture and the technology of past peoples,
Starting point is 00:33:24 I think that would be a really big incentive and maybe a big part of why they're doing it. And I wouldn't discount tourism either. I think time tourism could be a huge industry in the future and might actually even help in the development of time travel technology. Well, when you talk about being able to go back and listen to, what happened in the past. I mean, we just had the sound of a mummy, a 3,000-year-old mummy, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:52 they had the vocal box of that, and they're showing us how that sounds. I don't know if you heard that, but I was hoping that for more, other than just the... Yeah, well, I've seen all the movies, so I know a mummy sound in those, at least the ones that...
Starting point is 00:34:09 This was a little bit different. That sound was a little bit different. Yeah, it probably was probably, a little anticlimactic. No, it was very anti-climactic. And I will play it for you in just a moment because I played it earlier in the show. And you're going to be, Doc, I'm going to tell you, you're probably going to want to use this for educational purposes.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Okay. So here it is. Oh, there it is. I mean, Doc. I mean, scientists have now claimed that this is what the 3,000-year-old mummy sounded like. They really knocked it out of the park. Yes, they did. Yes, they did.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So, I mean, we can't go back, and we do have an idea of what the past sounded like. This was apparently an Egyptian priest, Nessiyaman, 3,000 years ago. My dad had much of a following if he sounded like that. All I know is... Take it back and be like, hey, this is what you sound like to us in the future. All I know is he wanted to be allowed to speak in the afterlife, and now he is. You got it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yes, absolutely. And we just found out also we're finding out now that what they said all along that there were different species. I mean, we're finding out now that, you know, even Neanderthal man is part of us, right? I mean, we're finding out that we're all, I mean, we're all connected, right? Absolutely. Yeah, we all have, no, we all have common ancestry. In fact, everything alive on Earth today has common ancestry going back 3.7. billion years. But yeah, the Denisovans, the Neanderthals, we were all interbreeding. There was
Starting point is 00:35:47 introgression. We were sharing genes, and we're the lone survivors. But yeah, they were all subspecies. We know now that we could and were reproducing with them. So if I wanted to get a copy of identified flying objects, the multidisciplinary scientific approach to UFO phenomenon by you, Dr. Michael B. Masters. How do I go about doing that? I mean, it's on Amazon, but there's a lot of other places. There's an audio book on audible and iTunes and wait, do you do the audio book? I did, yeah. It took me five months
Starting point is 00:36:19 and was mind-numbing but it was kind of fun too. I've done a lot of audio production. I'm in a couple bands and we've produced some CDs and so it was kind of a fun project but yeah and then you know, ask your local bookstore. It's now available
Starting point is 00:36:36 in Ingram as of yesterday. So I like to start getting into bookstores and it's a good way to kind of reach more people in different places. So before we talk a little bit about your bands, in the book you also talk about, you use a phrase that I found fascinating and I want
Starting point is 00:36:52 you to explain what you mean by it, a gap of gods. What do you mean by that? Oh, guiding the gaps? Yes. Yeah, no, that's actually the term I learned in a freshman philosophy class, I think, back in college. But it's a tendency that people have had when we get to the
Starting point is 00:37:11 the end of our knowledge about something and we can't understand it anymore. We typically attribute it to a God or gods or some sort of spiritual force. And it's been a tendency throughout time to do that. And then as we slowly start to understand things in more quantitative terms, we roll that back a bit. But it's still a common tendency today. So when do we actually get to, no, let me back up. are we ready as a species to welcome these beings on this planet?
Starting point is 00:37:50 That's a great question. I don't think so. Otherwise, I think they probably would have just plopped down by now and said, hey, it's us. We're you in the future. And I think that to some extent it helps explain that aspect of the phenomenon. on because if you had humanoid creatures coming from across the cosmos to get here and all the time and effort it took to do so you think they would introduce them so being being so covert in their
Starting point is 00:38:19 activities and picking people up in remote parts of the world and dropping them off with clouded memories i think it indicates that that we're still seeing more as research subjects and not quite on the same level but i mean potentially you know if we all start to understand time and talk about time implications of time travel. It potentially could happen in our generation. We could have them decide, hey, yeah, I think they're ready to meet us and know more about humanity and a much broader sense of time. How much do you believe in the, and obviously not all of them, because the internet brings out, you know, fakers in all categories. But how much do you believe in some of the people who actually claim to be time travelers and have come back to tell us what the future
Starting point is 00:39:09 looks like? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's hard unless they're giving us powerball numbers and they check out. Right. Here we go. It's hard for me to really jump on port with that. And especially because a lot of the people saying they know things of the future claim to be time travelers, they're not really in a position to divulge much or really have much of an impact. Right. So I think if that was the case, they would probably be a little more prominent in society and really easily able to prove that they do know what's to come. On top of it. I'm a little skeptical. Yeah, I mean, it makes me, it also makes me feel like, and maybe it's just because I'm a, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:54 I'm, you know, a skeptical kind of guy. But if I were to be a time traveler, I don't know that I would share that on my YouTube channel. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. It might not be the first thing you mentioned and cocktail parties and kind of pick up. Keep that kind of low profile. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:41:34 So where do you teach, Doc? I teach at Montana Tech. It's a science and engineering school in Southwest Montana. How's life in Southwest Montana? A little nippy, a little cold. It is today, but I tell you, we've had some beautiful weather. It was up around 60 yesterday or two days ago. And yeah, everybody gets out.
Starting point is 00:41:57 the shorts and shorts and a t-shirt is one of my favorite things to do in life i believe that you know if you if it's one of your favorite things you might consider i don't know moving someplace that you know is warmer well you could do that every day can't downhill ski though and shorts and a t-shirt in those places that's what i love about is just getting out on the mountains bright sunshine and warm weather sliding down a hill so yeah you're not up you're not up you're not out bare-hubes hunting? Not right now. It's not bear season, but I am an avid hunter. Elkin Deer, Bo. I mean, you live in Montana. That's a great place to do it. Yeah, we don't buy meat anymore. You're in a college town. That must be where you're performing with your band. I mean, what are you producing with your
Starting point is 00:42:47 band? I'm fascinated now that you, you know, this is your little side hobby of performing. You said you made some CDs. I mean, what do you, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah, no, it's fun. I play a I play keyboards and mandolin and guitar with a couple bands. A name of our band is the Red Mountain Band. We've been around for about seven years and traveled around different parts, usually within the state and playing festivals and weddings and bigger gigs. There's six of us in the band, so it kind of takes a good amount of cash before we decide to get out and do it. But I plan a couple smaller bands, too, mostly piano on those.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But yeah, it's fun. It's a great way to kind of break up the day and de-stress and go out and jam and. heck yeah around a bit I love it all right so the book is identified
Starting point is 00:43:31 flying objects is there anything in the book that you thought wow this is really fascinating
Starting point is 00:43:41 and nobody picked up on yeah there there were a couple little things yeah there are even
Starting point is 00:43:48 some things that people would criticize me for and I'm like well actually that's that's on page 274
Starting point is 00:43:54 in chapter 7 and then they'd go back and say oh yeah okay good. But yeah, there's little things in there. The biggest challenge in the book was trying to find a happy medium where it makes sense to the layperson and also to my academic peers. And the beta readers I had, and especially the peer reviewers, I think really helped to kind of narrow in on that
Starting point is 00:44:22 middle ground. So it's readable to anyone. It's written for anyone. But I hope it would still be challenging or interesting to my academic colleagues. All right. So what's the number one thing that you thought, man, I'm going to get pummeled for this? And nobody picked up on it. Man, well, I'd say it's not necessarily something that I thought I'd get pummeled for, but something I thought more people would pick up on. And it has to do with the way in which we would go deeper into the past,
Starting point is 00:44:51 where in order to travel into the past, and I'll try to make this as short as possible. you have to reorient late cones toward that past. So we have to warp space time in a way that we're still locally traveling into the future, but we're going into the global past. So that's pretty well known how that would happen, really since Einstein published his general theory of relativity in 1915, there's been solutions to its field equations that have hashed that out. But what I contributed, as far as I can tell as original material,
Starting point is 00:45:25 is that you'd also draw from special relativity traveling a very high rate of speed to go into the deep past because you go into the future of the past while those light cones are reoriented toward it. And nobody really picked up on that. And I thought it was kind of a contribution that I felt I was making to understanding how backwards. How that would happen, yeah. Yeah, and how we might get into the deep past. I mean, how we move faster into the past through time. But, no, maybe I should have talked about it more.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's just a couple paragraphs. I'd say if I had to pick one, that would probably be it. Dr. Michael Masters, identified flying objects, a multidisciplinary scientific approach to UFO phenomenon. Hey, Doc, thank you for coming on to chewing the fat today. I appreciate it. It was an interesting talk. And if you have anything else you'd like to share in the future, let us know.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Happy to talk to you. I appreciate it. Absolutely, yeah. Thanks again for having me on. As you know, when Chewing the Fat records, news happens. And we do have some breaking news now. Do we have the...
Starting point is 00:46:45 Thank you for listening to Chewing the Fad. We've got a live report, our man on the street, reporting live from Twitter. Jeff Fisher, our man on the street, live from Twitter. Jeff, how's it going out on the streets? That's fine. I've got an interview here with a man on the street. Hello, sir.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Are you from Twitter? Yes, yes, I'm from Twitter. And do we have a live report from Twitter? We do. We do have a live report from Twitter. Go ahead. What is that live report, sir? From the account of Baby Nut.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Which is Baby Nut? Is that the planner's peanut thing? That's a brand new, you know, peanut. Goober, goober, gaga. Goober, goober, gaga. Excuse me, Jeff. Did your band on the street just say goober, goober, goagga. Was that the tweet?
Starting point is 00:47:39 I think that's right, Jeff. Hold on. Excuse me, man, on the street for Twitter. What was it again? Goober, Goober, Gaga. Yep, yep, that's what it was. Goober, goober, Gaga. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Wow. I mean, when chewing the fat records, news happens. And gober, gober, gaga. That's sad. I can't believe you're following that stupid Twitter account. Who isn't following that Twitter account? I have so much, I have so much news to get to today. and I just don't have time.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I mean, I've got great royal stuff. I've got great Madonna stuff. Oh, no, hold on. I've got, did she cancel? I mean, it's, she's on a vacation tour where she's going to perform once in a while. It's amazing. Just quit, baby.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I know. I've got stuff about the coronavirus. Not from the corona beer. No, I mean, we've got, there's, I mean, now. Now experts believe it will become a pandemic. And that is what? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Really? That's what that was? That's what that is. Okay. Yes, I don't know if you know that, but that's what that is. Shall I read you what a pandemic is? Which is what I wanted you to do, but you decided to play the walk in the music. So. It's an epidemic of disease.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Really? We couldn't just say that? We have to say. I'm just saying that's what a pandemic is. So it's an epidemic of disease Epidemic of disease You're welcome Well thank you
Starting point is 00:49:17 Thank you Need to say more I mean I don't want to Okay here you go I'll give you the actual It means that it's spread out Across a large reason A region
Starting point is 00:49:34 Duh Right So there's nothing I you know I I Again, you can quote me on this and this is something that I was quoted on. I think either Thursday or Friday of last week.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And you can, I want you to go ahead and quote me on this again because no one has, no one has said this, I don't think, publicly. Yeah. Okay. Except for me. You, you're about to say it right now. I'm going to say it again. You can say it again? Because I said it on Thursday or Friday.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Oh, you already said it. And I didn't see any reports on it. No one caught it. Did you go to Mediite? I did not. Media matters. I should tag them. I should tag them in my post, all right?
Starting point is 00:50:19 You should. This coronavirus will get worse before it gets better.

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