Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 295 | Coronavirus UPDATE, Windshield UPDATE, & Immortality, Inc | Guest: Chip Walter

Episode Date: February 4, 2020

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And now, a Blaze Media podcast. Hello, and welcome to a Blaze Media podcast, Chewing the Fat with yours truly, Jeff Fisher. Got a million dollar idea emailed to us at Chewing the Fat at the Blaze.com. Now, I hate to bring it to you because it's a really good idea, and I think I'm going to do it. It's a million dollar idea. You know, we have the YouTube channels where. kids open or unbox toys and you know play with them show you what they do to put them together that kind of thing and it's you know multi-million views on YouTube and the kids have made

fortunes or the families of those kids have made fortunes small fortunes during the The unboxing process. I know. I know. Mom and dad, make a millions. The kid, here's your oatmeal.

Shut up. Ryan. Go open, go open the toys. He's like the most famous on YouTube. Right. And there's plenty. I mean,

my kid, you know, there's plenty with all the kids. There's plenty of open up my little ponies. And it's, you know, ridiculous.

I mean, it's a TV show in the Collodium now. And, uh, toy line. I know. And closed. So this idea from our listener,

Ryan, wants to have us start our own YouTube channel. I'm thinking more of a Patreon channel myself, where we would, adults that are, you know, recovering from heart events and other health issues

would watch other people smoke. Is that like 10? Oh, man. Third hand nicotine? Yes. Okay. Yes. or fourth ad.

Fourth ad. Yeah. Fourth ad. I think I like the idea. So Ryan also gave us a couple of PSs in his email. He apologized for assuming our gender. And he also reminded us that it was sent from an Android device. So, you know, like most of the world.

Yeah, most listeners come from. From iTunes. Don't bog me down with facts. I will say 57% come from iTunes. Don't bog me down with facts. I'm just saying the world is Android. That's fine, but your 57% of your listenership comes from iTunes. I can't hear you right now.

You're breaking up. You must be walking through a tunnel. Oh, I am. Yeah, because it's breaking up, I can't hear you. So I got my wife a little mad at me last night. Oh, no. Because we're talking about Rush Limbaugh. and, you know, it's sad.

But Rush had the news yesterday that he's got advanced lung cancer and, you know, it's pretty bad. But I'm thinking he's probably, you know, known for a lot longer than what he said. And because I'm reading between the lines. That's what we do here on chewing the fat. No, it's not a breaking. We don't have a live report coming in front of Rush Limbaugh's house. Waiting for Rush to come out and go to his doctor. No, we're not.

that's one of his cars coming out of the garage now. And I was like, he's probably known for a while, right? Because he said in his announcement on the Rush Limbaugh radio program that he started feeling, knowing that something was wrong around his birthday, January 12th. And then he was diagnosed on the 20th by a couple of, you know, different physicians. And, you know, he's been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. And he's going to fight it. And look, he's Rush Limbaugh. If anybody's going to fight and win that, it's rush.

So, you know, bless him, he's rushed. Nobody's going to replace him. Nobody's going to, I mean, he's rush. It's rush. So, but I tell my wife as we're talking about it, I'm like, he's known for a little bit longer because I looked at the video of him. I hadn't watched any of Russia's show for quite a while. And he looks thinner, not sick thin, but thinner.

And he had full beard. and the beard looked pretty, you know, it looked okay for Rush. And I was thinking that he looked pretty thin, though. And he's always been, you know, a fat guy like me and like, you know, a lot of Americans around the world. And, you know, he's always struggled with losing weight and gaining weight.

He's talked about it forever. And I thought, well, you know, he probably knew something wasn't quite right, but it was okay. You just move on with it. and he's always struggled with weight. He started losing a little bit of weight and felt like the weight loss was, yeah, losing weight. And then he got through the holidays,

and after the first of the year, after the first of the year, and he realized, you know, I probably shouldn't still be losing weight. Right? I mean, he ate over the holidays and he wasn't, you know, didn't somebody, and that's when he started doing something was even really wrong. but I'm guessing that a while ago, he knew that something wasn't quite right, because that's what we do as guys. That's what we do.

That's what I've done. My wife did not want to hear that. She did not want to hear that. Oh, you mean like having heart chest pains for three or four days before the actual huge heart event? You mean like that? Well, yeah, exactly like that. She did not want to hear that. So our, you know, thoughts, prayers, well wishes, best wishes, everything to rush.

But if anyone is going to beat it, it's rush. And I particularly, I mean, even in this, he's dividing, you know, the haters just hate. and some of the some of the hate online for this guy oh couldn't happen to a nicer guy I don't think that's I don't think it's a good thing to be wishing cancer on anyone

tends to come back at you and all these people who don't believe in God and well wishes and best thoughts and everything else all are happy and karma they believe karma. Karma come back at you. We believe of that now, just because we hate Rush so much.

But hey, Shannon Doherty's got lung cancer too, so we've got stories all over the world about Shannon Doherty getting sick. You're right. Live report outside Shannon Doherty's house. He's been fighting breast cancer for the past five years and now she's broken up. She's got lung cancer too. Hey, Rush Limbaugh's got lung cancer. Good.

Good. But Shannon Doherty, oh, sad. Sad. Are you kidding me? It's agonizing. Do we actually have a reporter in front of Shannon's house? No? Oh, that's too bad. I would be so angry if I was on this flight.

So there's a flight from Dallas to Houston, and a guy gets on the plane with a gas mask on. Now, I'm okay with it. You know, whatever. You want to have a gas mask. You've got to sit down. Let's go. Wait, did we miss the...

Yeah, it's over. Oh, okay. Man, those signs are not working properly. We should have heard this. I know. If I got with a gas mask, we should have heard this. So, people started freaking out. One guy took a picture and then realized,

there's no filter on the mask. What's the deal? So I guess, I don't know how he got on the plane with the gas max, so maybe it was in his carry-on and they just let it happen. and then down the walkway he put it on as he gets on the plane. Thank you for flying fish your air. Pay no attention to the man in the gas mask. There's no filter on it and everything's fine.

So don't worry about it. Sure, there's a virus going around the world, but this guy's flying from Dallas to Houston and don't worry about it. Everything's fine. Lighten up a little bit. So they asked them to take it off. I mean, thank you for flying fish your air.

We appreciate it. Wow. I'm going to go back to my... Knock up here in front. Close the door. I don't want anybody coming in here with or without a gas, man. Could the stewardess bring me a drink, please? So they ask him to take it off, and he says, you know, no.

That's when they... Security. So now I'm angry, right? Because people are upset. they want the gas mask removed. He won't remove it. And so now we're holding up the flight. Now we're holding up the flight to get this guy off the plane.

And the American Airlines said that they rebooked him and he flew out of the next flight without the mask. So I don't even know what kind of statement he's trying to make. He's trying to be funny. I bet you there's a YouTube video coming soon. You know what? Yes. That's exactly right.

because who was expecting right but you know right and it happened all right and so though just one snap one Twitter pick not the video just the Twitter pick just to advertise

it a little bit yeah something's coming out of it so look forward to that coming on YouTube right now gas mask YouTube.com slash gas mask on a plane I just I'd be so angry

I'm so angry at these people holding up my flight for this. And did you hear Glenn in this room and talking about when he got on the plane to DC that was a Chinese guy with a face mask? Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm not getting on that plate. No, I'm not getting on that plane.

I'm going to be like, excuse me, Delta, I need you to reschedule me to another flight. Yes, and it needs to be the next flight. Yes. The very next flight. Yes. I don't want to have to recycle air. I don't want to be that guy, but I'm sorry,

but if there's a... No, he could be on the first. plane. I don't want to hold up to flight. Oh, yes. Yes. I don't want to hold up to flight. Yes. No, I'm not saying kick him out. I'm kicking myself out of the plane. That's what I'm saying. Yes. I'm not going to hold up the flight. I'm just going to turn around and you're going to get me on another flight. I don't want some racist because now I saw Asian men with a with a mask on and surgical mask and not what's going on the world right now. That's not racist. It is racist. Do you have you checked your social media lately? Because now we're using coronavirus as a racist tool.

And all Asian people with masks will give us coronavirus. Yes. Well, yes, that's true. Wait, is that racist? I don't care. I don't want the coronavirus. I don't either. Do you want the coronavirus?

No. Okay. Anybody here want the coronavirus? Raise your hand. Nope, no hands are out. And there's not even a camera's in here, so I don't know. No, I mean, if people are watching and listening live, they can see. Go ahead.

Anybody put their hands up? No. Nobody put their hands up. Nobody wants the coronavirus. No one. wants the coronavirus, period. I mean, there's all kinds of... Another ship is on quarantine, Jeff Fisher.

That's a fourth ship. All right, let's go down some updates. So these are actual tweets from the AFP news agency Twitter account. All right, at AFP. Breaking. I mean hashtag breaking there. I'm already sick of hearing that today, but it's breaking.

news and when news happens, tune of fat records. It's just that's the deal, right? That's the motto. I don't remember what the model was. China, the China virus cases exceed over 20,400

nationwide in China right now, according to this tweet. And this tweet was, I mean, almost a day ago, so it's probably $85 billion by now. We lost them all. You just don't now.

China's gone. We lost them. Man, they have to do a retrospective on the whole country of China. whoof, that's a big retro. It's actually a good retro, though. May have to do that. Japan quarantines a cruise ship carrying 3,500 people.

Here's the other cruise ship that Chris was talking about. Testing passengers for the new coronavirus. I don't know that anyone had the virus. They're just, Japan says, hey, you know what? Somebody was wearing a mask. Somebody looks like they were from China. We're going to test you all before we let you off the cruise ship. Is that racist?

Probably. Probably. Probably. Yeah. Medical staff. Now, here's a guy in bed, or a person, I'm sorry, a person in bed with the sheets pulled up, almost covering their entire head with three people in full garb suits and masks and plastic masks and gloves. And, I mean, they're covered up from head to toe, man.

Yeah, they're like, you're not breaking me. So, I mean, I don't know if they're medical professionals. The tweet says they are. You don't know. I mean, it could be Bill from around the corner. Could be the guy who ate the bat soup. Yes, yes, he could be giving people. As they turn around, he takes off the glove and just touches you, walks away.

Dude. Right? Dude. Dude. I mean, we just don't know. We just broke it. We just don't know. We brought the story.

So in the tweet says, medical staff attempt to cheer up a coronavirus patient in isolation ward. Are they doing tricks? Hey, pick a card. Pick a card. Can they touch the cards? China's top leadership has admitted shortcomings and difficulties in its response to the outbreak. Yeah, they're sending a Cirque act into perform for the people who are sick. Not sure that's going to help.

Not sure it's going to help at all. You never know. You never know. Dubai in the United Arab Emirates had a big hotel light up in solidarity with China. Really? I mean, we're all in solidarity with China. Just fix it. All right.

Stop it. And now this, maybe this is what China's thinking about because this is an actual tweet again from at AFP. So maybe this is. I love them. They're pretty good agents when it comes to news. Maybe this is what they're thinking about as they sent in the, you know, comedy trio to make, you know, make sick people, got it. Make sick people better.

Just call them doctors, but I'm just going and tell jokes and make the patients laugh. Feeling stressed by the deadly hashtag coronavirus. Have a good cry, say Chinese health experts. If that does not work, buy a punching bag for the office or try singing. That cannot be real. That cannot be real. I cannot be real. Unless the punching bag is made by CTF.

It could not be. Real. Is that a CTS punching bag? Okay. I'm all right with that. We set a world record. Most people hitting a punching bag in China. 3.5 billion people at one time.

So now, you know, the big thing is, really, is what's going to happen business-wise, right, product-wise. Yeah, Nike, Starbucks, Apple. There's a lot of experts that are saying it's good for the United States that this is happening so that it opens up some industry back here when we realize that. But, you know, we need a little bit of those products, and we ought to just start making them ourselves instead of waiting for the ship to come in. Because even if you leave the ports open, there's nobody in China loading the ships up.

Wait, what? Yeah, no, there's... No, no, but like, if I'm sending my Apple ship, I expect those Apple phones to get put on that ship. I know that even though the infectious guy in the suit touched the iPhone box in the ship, shipping container. Okay.

By the time it gets here. It's dead. You're probably okay. Yeah, it's probably dead. But there's nobody getting it on the ships in China. No, but they just jump in. You look at the ports in China. You guys want to load this thing up?

Get some people out here and start to load up these ships. Hello? I mean, nobody, right? They shut it down. The guy whistling. The guy whistling can just shut it down. No, that's the wind. Oh, that's the wind.

That's not the guy whistling. Oh, I thought it was a guy whistling. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, it's amazing, right? I mean, the numbers are going through the roof. And listen, this is where my quote. Two more confirmed cases here in the United States. And I think we've had the first, we also have had the first person to person.

But it was husband and wife, though, right? So you just quarantine both of them and then you take them to the back. It's kind of understating. Oh, look at that. We no longer have that. Wait, there's a couple? No, no. No, no, that's fake news.

Nope. Fake news. What's that new fresh dug up dirt in the back? Nothing. Don't worry about it. I will say, again, though, as we get through the day, well, before I get to that, before I get to that, just let me remind you that also in this AFP thread, they show where the footage, and there's, it's amazing footage of how China has opened up the virus hospital.

Dude, overnight. In under two weeks, they opened this. And it is monstrous. There was no hospital there before. And it's not just like one building. No, it's something. I mean, we're looking at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 35, 4, at least 14. Wings?

Maybe more. Wow. I mean, and the footage of it being built, if you have an opportunity to see it, it's pretty cool. Maybe if I find the actual footage of it, it might be this story, too, that I'll tweet it out because it's amazing. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. And you don't know how many levels there's underground. Now, I will say.

Yeah, because we all know. And you can't see who's building. You don't know. Maybe it's the effective guy. Right. He's touching those walls. It's China, though. It's China.

This is a guy touching all the walls now? It's China. Does he look sick? Bring in another guy. We did another guy on the crane. They just don't let him out of the crane. Somebody want to back that dump truck out? Yeah, he's looking sick.

somebody want to get in there and drive that dump truck for you okay no problem but i will say as i as i started to this does bode well for how i feel how what's going to happen with the coronavirus and you can quote me on this and i told you this yesterday for those of you that were listening live uh and watching live uh on the blaze podcast network i just want you to go by this all right so when friends tell you hey

Are you worried about the coronavirus? Are you concerned that someone may come up to you and say, ooh, you look sick? Before that happens, just look at them and said, hey, don't you listen to chewing the fat? You should subscribe to chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher because he's told us it's going to get worse before it gets better. I think we've been had.

In fact, I think I've been had. Now, I would love if he was in this building to get him in here right now, Stubergear. But he's in Washington, D.C., and Lord knows there's no, there's no way to talk to people in other cities. Yeah, there's a phone.

Or Skype? Yeah, you can't. Oh, we use the same feed that we're using for this morning. There's no way to get audio from one city to another city in America anymore. Did you ask? He just can't. And he's not here in this building.

That's all I know. He's not in this building. But I think we've been had. So I'm getting ready this morning. walking around the house, I'm waiting for my windshield guy to come to repair my windshield. How's that? He showed up. Yeah, he showed up at the house.

We didn't do it. We didn't change the windshield. I'd just be silly, right, to have the windshield guy come to your house and actually replace. It'd be silly to expect that the windshield guy would show up to the house and then actually replace the windshield. That would just be dumb. You wouldn't want that. happened you wouldn't want to well no he showed up oh he showed up he showed up and then there was some

sprinkles going on some rain a little bit of rain and uh so i can't pull into the garage why not plus he didn't want to do it anyway he's like well you know why is he's he's mad at a paper he's like he's looking around he goes you know and he was smoking he was just standing around in my driveway like dude don't put you know give me give me one yeah and uh he's like you know When it's raining like this, when it's raining like this, the glue doesn't stick. Oh, shut. So hold that. I can't play.

If I put the windshield in, it's raining it and glue doesn't stick and the whole thing is messed up. So you'll be fine with that crack. Don't worry about it. So it's 2020 and we should happen to be able to figure out a glue that works when it rains. No, when it's wet like that. No, it's got to dry. It has to be dry. It has to be dry.

It has to dry. It has to dry. Yeah, but how long does it have to be dry? Once it goes on, it has to dry, it can't get wet. For how long? For whatever amount of time. It has to dry. I feel like you didn't push enough on this.

It has to be dry. I did. I was like, okay, if he doesn't leave soon, I'm going to steal one of his cigarettes. So when is the next installation date? So I was like, so he goes, oh, we'll get somebody out here. And I said, well, it's supposed to be, you know, like snow and sleet tomorrow. And iced. And, you know, that it's going to be pretty cold.

So we work, you know, when it's cold out. You obviously don't work when it's sprinkling out. Yeah, yeah, when he rains, you know, they're not like the post office. No, they are not. No, they are not. He did have nice company pants on, though. Oh, good. He said a little safe flight thing.

Yeah, give you a little promo. Nice. But so then I said, well, you know, so why don't we do it Friday? I can't do Friday morning. You know what? Come Friday afternoon. So now you have to go in there? No.

Oh, no. No, they're still coming. Yeah, because I probably could have taken it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and then I thought, no, I don't want to take it in. Okay. Then I got to wait there. I mean, I went out of my way to take it in day one.

Yeah, the first. Because I really wanted to get it done. Today's Tuesday. So we had the windshield that was bad. Yeah. Or, you know, it had a scuff mark through it that he didn't want to put it on. Yeah. So, I mean, the guy at the shop was like, oh, also smoke it.

You know, it's got that little mark through it. We don't want it. It's not perfect. It's not perfect. We want to give you the best quality. It's the only one we got, too. They just overnighted that one. We don't know if it's on every one or not.

So we'll just wait for another shipment to come through. We might put this so. You know, we'll figure it out. Smoking still. Yeah, I was like, okay, I mean. Are you going to share? Right, I had to get out of it. I want to smoke.

Yeah. So we had the guy come today. And obviously, you know, he shows up smoking, telling me you can't do it in the rain. So Friday. Friday afternoon. So Friday afternoon. We want dry weather on Friday. Okay.

And we want dry weather all weekends, so there's enough time that it soaks up and dries and gets that windshield. Yeah. And that's locked in. Yeah. Now, my question to you is, have you done the Muslim converter to your vehicle? I did not drive with the Muslim converter. However. Because, you know, it's going to rain.

It's going to ice up. It's going to, you know, make your window nice and iced. You're going to turn on the... For it to scrape it. I've got the scraper to scrape the ice off. And you're going to turn on the defroster. that's going to heat it up and it's going to expand. I feel like you're just going to break.

Yes, absolutely. So it's like the ice. Just leave the ice up. So the guy says this morning, I asked him. I asked him this morning. Oh, good, good, good. You push back on that one. Okay.

I said, so, I mean, it's a am located driver. I mean, it's not going to end up with my lap or, you know, stab me in the throat or anything as I'm driving 70 miles an hour down the interstate. Like the windshield, you know, and the guy, you know, looks at me and he. Oh, still smoking. I see. It's not cracked all the way through. Also, the integrity of the window.

The way they make these things is so that crack is, you know, technically on the outside, it's not the inside. Oh, so you still have integrity. It's more of a distraction when you're driving. You know, if it cracks a little bit more and shatters. I could come up with that with a baseball bat. hit that thing and just crack it. It's just more of a distraction. It's not going to fall out or hit you in the lap or anything.

Did you say, can I quote you and all that? Because that's a lot of words in there. At that time, I beat the crap out of them and stole a cigarette. So I actually had a cigarette. Yeah, I've actually now had a cigarette. I can't say I haven't gone without a cigarette in more than a year. But I didn't actually. That's not true.

I didn't smoke. I just told him to get off my driveway. Get out of here. I'll see you on Friday afternoon. Well, that might not be me. I mean, we get, you know, we get our orders. We don't know if it's, I don't know if it's going to be me, but, you know, it could be. Okay.

Thanks. Appreciate it. Anyway, back to Stu. We've been had. We have been had now. That man sat in this room in this room and those watched it live. So I'm sitting in the chair across from me and say, oh, we got the news. Stu does America show starting.

the fourth, right? He went to the Super Bowl. He wasn't coming, he was traveling back on the third from the Super Bowl. Stu Does America starts on the fourth, right? So I'm thinking, that's weird because I saw Stu in Washington, D.C. today with Glenn. And is he flying back right after the radio show and then doing Stu Does America live, you know, for the State of the Union like they talked about? I mean, that day. and then not long after my thought of that,

I heard a promo on the Blaze Radio Network that... Oh, hello, it's Stu. I'm getting really excited. I'm pumped up. Because right around the corner, we have the big launch day for Stu Does America. You can go subscribe on YouTube for free,

and every time you do that, you're telling people that you want shows that are like this, shows that try to make you laugh, that have smart analysis occasionally. We always say this, smart analysis and dumb jokes. Stu Does America, a new show premiering February 10th. What? What?

What? All right, we've been had. This show is never going to happen. Stu Does America is never going to happen. Every week, about Wednesday or Thursday, this promo is going to start. It's going to go with Stu being surprised. Oh, hey, it's Stu. Hey, oh, it's you.

It's Stu. And let me tell you about my show. Stu Does America. And it's coming up on February 21st. launch day. It's just going to keep moving it back. You can't rush perfection. You can't rush perfection, you know.

Oh, hey, this is Stu. Thanks for dropping it. You should subscribe to my YouTube channel. I've got a new show. This is what we like to say. Smart analysis. Dumb jokes. Stu does America.

Beginning tax day, April 15th. It's just what we've been had. It's never going to happen. Agonizing. Desperately need a drink of Coca-Cola Zero Sugar. So let's go over to the break room and get a nice cold drink of Coca-0. Oh my gosh. That is so good.

Did it hit the spot? Yes, it hit the spot. There's a new spot now. Yeah. Because the old spot's gone. Yeah, the gold bladders gone. The old spot's gone. There's a new spot now that it hits.

What, you Coca-Cola 012,2, gobladder? I mean, it used to So what does it go now? Everything went to I still don't know what a gold bladder does I still don't know What it does is it creates great pain Oh, it does.

Yes, it creates great pain You don't need it I thought that you don't need it I don't know Is it like the appendix? I don't know Just get rid of it Just put it out

You don't need it You know I don't want to go into A body part you don't need But there's plenty of body parts you don't need Pinky toes Oh You know

Factually I just read a thing The other day That talked about If you lost your pinky finger You lose half your hand strength Really One pinky You lose half your handstring

I mean that's If that's true And I'm trying to think to myself I'm trying to do stuff Without my pinky Let's cut it off What happened We can put it back on

That's what we can put it back on And just cut it off and see, oh my gosh, it's true. Oh, my God, lost half of them. So a while ago, you know, we just talked just the other day about losing the 127-year-old lady, the oldest lady on the planet Earth.

And it got me thinking, no, that was the mummy, that was the mummy, the 3,000-year-old mummy with the voice box. We apologize for that. It wasn't the, it wasn't the 127-year-old lady. We apologize for that. But I was reading,

I've been reading a book called Immortality Inc. by Chip Walter. And I went into it thinking that Chip is going to tell me that, you know, what I need to take, supplements, blood work, all kinds of stuff to live. We talked about the guy in Texas. Right. Yes. The billionaire here in Texas doing all kinds of stuff to, you know, extend his life, right?

And actually, the book is bringing together. It's a fascinating read. I'm really fascinated about it. I wanted to talk to Chip. And so we got Chip in the break room. today. Chip Walter, welcome to Chewing the Fat. How in the world are you? I'm good. How are you? I am fan. I'm hoping you're feeling better. Oh man. Top of the world. I never, there's no place else on earth that I would rather be than gallbladder for you.

Yeah, no, you don't need it, Chip. This is gone. That's true. Have a nice day. If I would have realized I didn't need it earlier in my life, I would have had them just get rid of it. Yeah, just take it out at birth. Yeah. Thank you. Just take it. Well, we should do that. In fact, I've scheduled surgery for my children already. Just take it out. Just get rid of it. I don't want them to suffer. Okay.

So anyway, I read your book, Immortality, Inc. Thank you. Renegade Science, Silicon Valley Billions, and the quest to live forever. And, you know, I, along with everyone else, you know, like the thought and sound of living forever. But you want to have quality of life, too, right? I mean, everybody wants to live forever. I like the way, we all like the way it sounds, but we all don't want to be with drool cups and name tags

as your chapter is titled. Right, right. But I love the way you brought together the characters in the book. And, you know, you brought together, how many characters in the book? Oh, well, there are quite a few, but I think mostly focus on Craig Ventor, who's key in sequencing the first human genome. Ard Levinson, who's the chairman of Apple, but was also chairman of Genentech, a CEO of Genentech, which is the first biotechnology company in the world,

and Ray Kurzweil, who's, you know, well-known futurist and, you know, an inventor. And then Robert Hariri, you know, kind of emerges in the course of the book as one of the world's leading stem cell experts. And I love the way that you told their stories and then how they ended up. you know bringing them together you know fighting for you know immortality yeah yeah i mean it's it's kind of fascinating how these these things kind of happen in history right you know where there's a convergence of events and this seemed to be that that's really why i wrote the book because i i thought is this what's happening are we at a time in human history where where science is actually going to

solve one of the great mysteries of humankind and and i thought my god It looks like this is that moment. So I wanted to try to tell that story. So once we get to the end, do you believe that we're at that point? Or are we just? When I first started, I didn't know if it was feasible to solve this problem. Because it's something we've been talking about for as long as you've been human beings. Oh, I mean, we've been in search of the fountain of youth forever, right?

Yeah, yeah, it goes back to Gilgamesh, which is thousands of years. But by the end of the book, after going through all this research, I worked on the book for three years. I spent tons of time with all these people and in their labs. And, yeah, I came to the conclusion that, yes, they're going to solve the problem. And I think that people start to see some real advances. In some ways, we're seeing them already. But I think some real advances within four or five years.

So as I was as I was cruising through the book What's your favorite part of the book? You said you know you like to bring it all together And it was fascinating But I mean what's your favorite part of the book Because I every time I sat down to start reading it again And get back into it I thought Well I like that

I like that I like that Well that's great to hear Thank you I well the sections that I think I enjoyed writing the most Were the sections about the histories of the characters Yeah, it's really fascinating. Yes, fascinating stuff.

I mean, they've all lived amazing lives. I mean, they're all living the American dream, and they're coming together to try to enhance the American dream for everyone else. Yeah, yeah, right. I guess the story I think that stuck with me, you know, when I was writing it was Craig Venters attempted suicide in Vietnam. Right. Working in Vietnam.

You know, and how that kind of changed his life. It affected everything about him. completely. Yeah, yeah, and that's why he became such a driven, you know, scientist and such a successful scientist. But, yeah, I think all those stories are fascinating, and I wanted to tell those stories because I think it places the bigger story in context. You can understand, well, why do people do what they do, and why would they tackle something this big? But that's, and then how it came together, how Google got involved, and Calico was created, and, you know, Human Longevity, Inc.

And, you know, just how all these characters found one another and created these companies that are tackling this. Makes me jealous, actually. I'd love to be a part of some of these companies. It was fascinating how they all came together. Now, you know, I was at the beginning, as I said, I sat Immortality Inc. Yeah, I mean, it's good. You know, I'm going to sit down and, you know, I'm going to be told that I need to be in the, you know, in the oxygen tank for 3.2 hours a day.

And I need to take this many pills. and it's going to make me live to be, you know, 150. Well, I mean, we already have people that are well into their hundreds on the planet. And the planet has actually changed dramatically, and many of the changes have come because of people in your book, Immortality, Inc. Because, I mean, you look back at pictures of our grandparents, Chip, even our grandparents. And you look, my God. they were younger than me in that picture, and they don't look younger than me. I'll tell you that.

Yeah, well, it's rough. It was, I mean, there is a section of the book that basically deals with. The way I saw this was that death dying is the villain in the book, basically. And so I needed to sort of also tell that story. Why do we age? Why do we die? And how much that has changed over the last 120 years? I mean, in 1900, the major cause of death was tuberculosis.

People didn't live long enough. The average lifespan was 47 years in the United States. Right. People simply didn't live long enough to get Alzheimer's or dementia of any kind or even a lot of cancers or heart disease or anything. They still thought they needed a gallbladder, dummies. Right, right, see? see and they never got sick enough to have a problem with their gallbladder anyhow because

they were already passed away from a heart attack right i mean we make jokes but seriously that's i mean that's really true and so um we now live almost 80 years you know on average so we've almost doubled that on average right and i mean we're we're hoping for it we we try to lengthen that out and we all say well i don't want to live like that but then we end up living like that with the drool cups and name tags right i mean that we No, nobody wants to die. It's built into the DNA. Nobody really, very, very few people would say, take me today.

I mean, unless they were in horrible pain or something. And that's, that's Vettner's story, right? I mean, that's his deal. I mean, where he attempted to end his life because he didn't think there was anything worth living for, and it showed him that there was. That he did. Yeah. Yeah, they did.

When he felt that shark bumping up against them. Yeah. Oh, my God, I don't want to die. Get me out of here. Right. I want to live a good life. And that's what he's true. trying to do i kind of feel like that's when we hear from again people who are fortunate enough

or you know i say fortunate enough to uh live through an attempted suicide and they really didn't want to die right they were they were they were they were hoping there was going to be some miracle halfway down the you know the 60th floor and then they realize oh hey it's uh you know i don't want to die and then it's too late and ventnor had another chance which is great and I didn't mean to bring us it down into suicide talk but it's just important to realize that no one wants to die right right I at least I believe that you know I think a lot of people will say well just take me you know but when that moment comes are you really ready to to go but generally speaking. But, you know, so that was one of the points of the book was that people really

really don't want to die. And it raises all sorts of questions if we solve this problem. Yes, it does. If people start living hundreds of years, you know, obviously it creates a lot of issues. And let's talk about some of those issues. We're talking with Chip Walter Walker, author of Immortality, Inc. I want to talk about some of those issues and what's going to happen with that. On the other side of this, for those of you that are listening to this on Blaze Radio, you need to subscribe to chewing the fat because we're going to be talking more with Chip on the podcast.

Download and subscribe to more content at the blaze.com slash podcasts. We're talking with Chip Walter, author of Immortality, Inc. And we're talking about some of the struggles and some of the things that we face as we live longer, right? I mean, we realize now that if we're going to extend our lives, it brings a whole whole new set of issues, doesn't it? Well, yeah. I mean, if you, one of the things that I think is important in the book is we're not talking about,

like you were saying before, it's not a how-to book that's going to, you know, add a couple of years to your life. This is really about scientists that are trying to solve the underlying reasons why we age and therefore eliminating to a large degree aging. And so that means you could live hundreds of years potentially. And so let's say even if you live another hundred years, you know, it completely changes the economics, your social relationships. You can imagine being at, you know, a Thanksgiving dinner where everybody's looks pretty much the same age, you know, and maybe even they look pretty similar. It's like, is that my aunt or is that my, you know, daughter or who is that?

So, I mean, it's just, it just would up and capsize everything in our lives. and one of the reasons I wrote the book was because if I just written a book right out of the gate that said, geez, what happens if we start living, you know, a couple of hundred years, people say, we're nuts, you know? Yeah. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, I had to go and research this and see if these guys for real. And in the course of the three years that I worked on it, the time I spent there, I just, you know, I came to the conclusion. It is.

So now we have to raise it. questions and I think as a society we have to say well now are we going to handle these things yeah now what and and you know we'd be good and bad you know when you talk about the uh being frozen in cryogenics uh and you know you start off actually talking a little bit about that um right right you know really the big question after that is and i'm a fan i mean if you can afford it and have the you know the opportunity go ahead but uh you know what happens when i come back uh in another 150 years. Yeah.

I mean, it's a great science fiction novel. Yes, it is. And you're welcome, by the way, Chip. You go ahead and you can write that next. Okay. I mean, yeah, if you come back in 100 years, that's one of the first things my wife said to me, she goes, well, who's going to be left?

You know, anybody that we're going to want to hang out with? Because, oh, she's still planning on being with you because I'm pretty sure my wife would be going, you know, you're going to have to find somebody else, because I'm out of here. Well, at first she said that, and I said, well, you can come with me. Oh, so special. But actually, that raises an interesting question.

I mean, again, if you have relationships that are going on for hundreds of years, can you really tolerate a relationship that long? I mean, it just changes everything because everything in life is about, you know, it's just built into every society that you're going to grow older and die. Right. I mean, that's just the way it is. And so it still is that way. We are just extending the inevitable.

Yes, we are extending things. But one of the points that I was making in the course of the extension of life up to this point is that even though we are living longer, we're not necessarily living better. Those last three to five years are pretty rough. Yeah, boy, you're no kidding. Yeah. Yeah, and none of us wants to see our parents going through that, and none of us wants to be that person going through it. So that's why I think that as, you know, if these advances move forward as quickly as I think they will, then, you know, it's going, people are going to do it. I mean, some people said to me, well, that's wrong.

You know, we can't, we're going to have, we have global warming and, you know, climate change and all those sorts of things. And we do. You know, those are issues that we have to deal with. but, you know, is there anybody that whenever, I mean, if someone walks up to you and says, you know, you say, I have cancer and you say, well, we have a treatment for that that can help you. Right. Very few people are going to say, no, I think I'll pass on the treatment. Right. I'm good.

Yeah, yeah. And the same thing happened will happen with aging. You know, if there are pharmaceuticals or drugs or treatments of some kind that will extend and improve your life, then I can't see very many people saying no. And that's, you know, that's, you know, that's also part of the struggle is that, you know, you say, well, no one wants to be that way. Well, you know, if you are sick and a doctor makes you better, but it doesn't really enhance your life and you live that, you know, it just keeps you alive for another three or four years. But if the next person that comes along has the same thing that you or that person has, then they do something the same way only just a little bit different because they some. that it didn't quite work on that person. And it extends, now it's made your life a little bit better,

four or five or six years, not three or four. So, I mean, we're test subjects at the same time. Really strange. I know that's, you know, off topic a little bit, but it really isn't because we all want to survive those. Right, right. And one of the interesting things about the work that's being done to kind of get to the bottom of why we age is that the reason

the reasons why most people get cancer or heart disease or diabetes or, you know, name your disease is because we're aging. You know, your body is breaking down and so it's more likely to get those diseases. So if we actually begin to get to the bottom of aging itself and you create and people are more youthful, then they won't get cancer. They won't get heart disease. They won't get, or let's put this way, they'll do a much better job at bouncing back from it, just as you did when you were in your 20, you know. I mean, very, very few people.

It's horrible whenever, you know, children or young people get cancer, but it's relatively rare. The vast majority of people that get cancer are elderly. Right. And look, everyone that's, you know, that's 15 to 30 years old is immortal, right? No matter what. Right. Right. Right. And I say everyone. And I know there's exam, you know, I got it. There's people that are not. But for the most part, you're immortal. And then you, as you get hit by a bus. Right, or a train.

Yeah, right, right. And that's exactly right. And so really the underlying goal here is for people to have bodies that operate like they're 15 to 30 years old instead of 65, 75, 85, 95. And there's so many good jokes with that that I'm looking forward to having another. body that's it might not be mine but I'm looking forward to anyway now I'll just let him go chip Walter I'm just going to let him go so what's next chip I know you we've got Immortality Inc was a was a great read what's next on your agenda thank you well we'll see what happens with the book there's a documentary series that we're in development on nice and we'd like we'd

like to update that because this is changing all the time yeah improving all the time and then, yeah, I have a novel that'll be coming out, and then... I've given you at least one idea for a book today. I know, right, and I've got to get on. I've got to get right on that. I don't know. You don't have to say thank you, but you're welcome. And...

Thank you. I'm sorry, next non-fiction book is called... It's a working title, Aqua. It's just about water. Where did it come from? How does it work? why is it important, how does it work? And I'm going to go all over the world to nail this one down.

I mean, it's going to be fun. Really, it comes from Earth. But, you know, hey, what do I know? We're going to start as a big bang and then go all the way up. I mean, I don't want to, you know, put a cringe in your book, but it's there. Anyway, it's so stupid. Chip Walter, thank you so much, man. I really appreciate your time.

I know I kept you longer than you probably actually wanted, but I appreciate it very much. Thank you. No, no, I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm glad you feeling better. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Take care, man.

All right. Take care. You too. So, I mean, it's another breaking news story today. I mean, holy cow. When Chewing the Fat records or news happens or news happens when chewing the fat records. Yeah, no, you got it right. I mean, if you're watching and listening live.

There's no cameras today. To chewing the fat records. That, well, yeah, that one right there. This is a camera. Don't say there's not a camera. There's one right there. There's not a working camera. The one right behind you works.

Nope. That's a working camera. There's no camera streaming out. It may not be on. Well, that's a working camera. And I think it's on. I think it is on. It's always on, but it's not streaming.

But it's always on. It's always on, but not streaming. Yes. It's that difficult. The Blaze Television Network. Always. on. Oh, that's a good motto.

I like that one. But what do I know? Anyway, breaking news. All right, so I'll be... When news happens, chewing the fat records or chewing the fat records... When chewing the fat records... I'm not playing that. News happens.

Let's try to get it right. Don't play that thing again. I can't take it. I can't. With chewing the fat records, news happens. Don't do it. There it. It's already there.

Think of it don't. know the stupid thing. Do you know? Jesus. Killing me. So we talked about it not long ago, the possibility of something happening with the cruise through history that you're going on. Oh, no.

You're going to bug me that with facts. Wait. How do you know? Are you going? And I would just receive an updated email. Wait, you receive an email. Updated email. I signed up for the email.

The Cruz Through History email updates? Oh, I'm on that. Just because I know you're going. But I'm going. I did not get this email. female though. And I'm not going. And just so you know. Okay. All right. I just so you know,

it hasn't been canceled. Oh. Yeah. I'm sorry? Yeah. So it hasn't been canceled. It has not been canceled. Okay. So those of you that are going on the Cruze through history with Chris Cruz and Glenn Beck and not me. Bill O'Reilly. And not me. Rabbi Lappin. Not me. Stubergear. Now, is he really going though? Because he's really got a new show to do.

You know, Chris, he's got this coming. What's the date on this? March 25th. So he can't even start the new show. But he's just turned next week. You can't even start the new show. It won't start now. Well, that's what I said.

April 15th, right yet. That's the last one. That's when it started. Because of this. We got to write that down. Because of this, his show is not going to start until I guarantee you. You got to push it. Oh, Mike.

We got to push it back. God, I hate him so much. I don't even know why I talk about him. He's got to stop talking about his stupid show. So anyway, they're just letting people know that they are on top of this coronavirus. So they are in regular contact with the World Health Organization's statements. So, well, so am I. So, I mean, this is the cruise lines that say we're on top of the World Health Organization's statements on coronavirus.

So are we. So is the rest of the country. But they are in regular contact with the cost of cruise lines. Okay, okay. And the ship that you're supposed to be taking the Costa Limonosa. Or limosa, the Costa Limonosa. Whatever it is, the ship. What is it?

Costa luminosa. Yeah. And that sounds like a mafia team. Which it means illuminate a coast. It's going to illuminate something all right. Apparently, thank you. Dude, we can't joke about that. It says here they've got pallets of masks.

No, it doesn't say. It doesn't say that. It's said that they've been, it's been sailing in the Caribbean or Caribbean for, since November. All right. So testing it out. It's over there. Okay. It's way far away.

It's not even close to the Mediterranean. So its first sailing in the Mediterranean will be this season coming up with, with you guys. So all the precautions are being taken. This is just you're going to be a kind of okay email. Don't worry about it. We're on top of it. We have the maximum safety for our guests. No problem.

We've got, just so you know. This is just so you're aware. This is in the email. That you got and I didn't get. All ships are equipped with medical facilities. Nice. And our dedicated staff available 24 hours a day and can count on advice and support.

from professionals and external medical facilities. It's important that we all know that the cruise industry is one of the best equipped and experienced in the field of health protection. So. So can I go or can I not go? Right now you're still on. I'm still on.

Right now it's all aboard. Oh, that's a train. It's still. I think they do that. I still do that. Just trains do that? Yeah. Just take the stairway up.

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