Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 333 | CoronaBabies, Earthquakes are Still Happening, & Time Management at Home | Guest: Fmr FDA Assoc. Commissioner Peter Pitts
Episode Date: March 24, 2020Day 12 inside the CQB: Yes!, the coronavirus is taking a hold on all the news, but earthquakes are still happening and most of them are in Puerto Rico. Florida man gets caught stealing toilet paper fr...om a hotel in Orlando. Fmr FDA Assoc. Commissioner Peter Pitts joins the show to talk about the coronavirus and how can we help defeat COVID-19. Kris Cruz has a BIG ANNOUNCEMENT and it involves the coronababy. How are you time managing your time while being quarantine? Subscribe on YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hello, welcome to Chewing the Fat with yours truly Jeff Fisher.
Thank you so much for coming along for the ride today.
Listen, and I might have to change that.
Come to think of it, since we are broadcasting from, you know, the CQB,
you may be listening from your own CQB.
You might be joining us on the ride today.
I'm looking at the, you'll be.
You look at the traffic cams in the world, and I mean, now's the time to fix the roads.
There's nobody on.
There's people whistling in the roads?
Yes.
Yes.
That's just the wind.
Oh, that's the wind.
Oh.
I thought it was just like a massive.
That's my bunker sound effect.
I thought it was just a massive people just whistling in the middle of the highway.
Remember when news like earthquakes used to be news?
Like the one in Europe.
I mean, there's a list now.
I was looking at the list from the USGS, who, you know, keeps track of earthquakes.
And there's a list if it's 2.5 or higher.
All right.
So just today alone, at the time that we were recording this podcast, if you're listening and watching live,
of the 24th of March 2020, there are.
one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fourteen fifteen sixteen
earthquakes already over a two point five do we care about those no why cooomroote is I
pretty incredible they're affecting your people Chris Cruz the one two three four five
six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
Twelve, twelve of the sixteen are in Puerto Rico.
Ooh, bro.
Bro, your people are shaken today.
Man.
Can I quote you on that?
Yes, you can.
It's a party in Puerto Rico, baby.
Everybody is a shaken.
Come on down.
So, you know,
Speaking, I was coming along for the ride.
I was looking at some of the pictures around the world and around the country,
how so many places are, you know, empty as we are used to seeing,
other than we're used to seeing them, right?
I mean, we're used to seeing them full of people.
And now, you know, everybody has to, you know, shelter in place or stay home
and no more gathering more than four people.
I mean, there's states now, one of the Carolinas is telling you,
more than four people we're going to break you up.
I can't even go to the store with my kids.
No, no, no, no, no, you can't.
Social distancing.
Two or more, you're breaking apart.
How about, here's my answer to that.
No?
There you go.
I like that idea.
Okay, okay, okay, I'm going home.
I'm going home.
I mean, this is where we're at in today's world now, right?
The story about this guy stealing toilet paper from a hotel in Orlando.
Do you blame him?
So, okay, okay, so hear me out.
All right, so the guy steals the toilet paper from the hotel.
Now, I'm not saying it's right.
I am not saying it's wrong.
I'm just telling you that's what he did.
All right.
Now, all of us have taken things from hotels.
Absolutely.
That's what they're there for.
You can quote me on that too.
You take the towels.
Every one of us listening to this podcast
have taken something from a hotel.
You take towels, soap, the water cup that is, you know, to spit out, everything.
The pillow.
specifically pick an item.
I'm just saying everyone of us has taken.
No, like I said, you take the towels, the soap, the cup to mouthwash yourself.
You might take a little bit of a pillow.
So this guy deep pocket 66 rolls.
Oh, that's too greedy.
Okay, so he puts it in a trash bag and he takes it out to his van.
Now the guard at the hotel was said, according to the story, was curious why someone would put a bag of trash in their own vehicle.
Okay?
How is that?
All right.
So I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with the guard being curious, thinking,
hmm, weird.
Why is that guy putting a bag of trash in his car?
Then the story goes on saying he peeked inside.
Oh, hell no.
And saw it was full of toilet paper.
Uh,
no, you're not peeking inside any of my properties.
Ah, no.
Last time I checked, you're not a cop.
And a cop needs reasonable doubt.
to peek into my stuff.
How about, how about, no, we're not arrested me for that.
No, absolutely.
No.
I'm sorry.
I know we're, you know, we're in a new world order now, but no.
Now he claims he was going to give the toilet paper to a woman he knew who was poor and
unemployed and he wanted to help the woman in her family.
I can't doubt what the man says.
Okay.
That's what he says.
I, okay.
All right.
Let's take it on his word.
It was for him.
Yeah, let's take him on his word.
Let's say that he is true that he's going to use that and give it to this lady.
Does she need 66 rolls?
Who are you?
Are you?
Do you are now someone appointed Chris Cruz the toilet paper police?
No, but you know, maybe I'll let it slide if you have eight rolls.
Eight rolls.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
You take you four for yourself and you're taking four for the lady.
A pack of 99 cents toilet paper.
Four rolls per person.
66 I'm doubting you
Wow
Wow
Okay Mr. Hater
Mr. I know how much toilet paper
Every person in America needs
All right, fine
Be that way
There is a website out there that will calculate
How much toilet paper you'll need
How much you'll use
So you'll know what you need
You know, look at how many rolls you house
How many times you go to the bathroom every day
You know how many people you have in your house
Don't forget about that.
It's not just you.
It's the people you have in your house.
And then it will calculate how long you can go before you need toilet paper.
And I calculated mine.
It's like a day.
No.
No.
Yeah, it's like a day.
It's all I have.
It's all I have, just a day.
Mine was 63 days.
Oh, but Mr. Florida can't have 66 rolls.
Okay.
All right.
Fine.
All right, let's head over to the break room.
I needed a drink of Coca-Cola Zero, and we'll also see who's in the break room.
Oh, my gosh.
Peter Pitts, former FDA Associate Commissioner, President and co-founder, Center for Medicine
and Public Interest, Common Sense Healthcare Policy for Common Sense Americans is his book.
Welcome to Chewing the Fat. How are you, sir?
My pleasure. Thanks very much.
So, Peter, before we get into the world of coronavirus, because that's where we're, you know,
we're living in that world now, your book, Common Sense Health Care Policy for Common Sense
Americans, that's the main, I mean, number one point out of that book right now today
in our COVID-19 world. Well, the big takeaway is science is complicated and solutions.
are available, but they're difficult and takes time.
And Volgaard be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
Not complicated.
It is not complicated at all.
So one of the things that people are worried about in today's world is the delivery system that we've created to bring goods and services,
but for sure, goods into the U.S. for us to use.
Now, we are told that many items is, we're.
We don't have a supply problem, really.
We just have a distribution issue, right?
I mean, people are buying it so fast that we need to replace it, but the supplies are still
there.
But with medicine and medical devices, that is maybe a little bit different than just some of the
goods that we're buying off the shelves every day, right?
The good news is there's plenty of supply.
It's international.
So we've got a global supply opportunity.
the bad news is that that global supply chain needs to be robustly regulated and inspected.
And one of the problems now, relative to the Food and Drug Administration, the FDA,
is that they're not sending their inspectors into harm's way.
Can't argue that.
Now, the question is, will that cause a supply chain interruption for medicines, for example?
I think if we handle it smartly, it'll be okay.
But on the other end, you have President Trump wanting a Buy American executive order,
which sounds good, and I'm all for buying America.
but you know the system is already globalized you can't turn the clock back you
can't all of a sudden start manufacturing things in the US for which we're not
ready to do right but isn't it a good time to maybe get it started and still I
mean the supply chain and delivery chain is still going to remain open according
to the president that's exactly right and I think that the more we produce here
at home clearly the better whether that's medicines or whether that's cars or you
know, refrigerators, that's an overall positive, at least it is to me. But it sounds that it
sounds that we have a tremendous flexible manufacturing proposition in this country for medicines.
Our factories domestically are running a full tilt for what they're making right now. So it would
mean incentivizing building new factories, incentivizing generic drug prices that's worthwhile.
It's a whole complex proposition. But to your point, I think the sooner we get to it, the better.
Right. Now, you bring up a, the FDA and the regulations. I mean, I'm of the belief that if anyone can cut some of that regulation red tape, the man we have as president right now is the man to do that. Because we've heard that, you know, with testing and human trials on some of the vaccine. And so, you know,
vaccines. We've heard, you know, even with regulations with cutting some of the regulations,
we're still, you know, 12 to 18 months out. I would like to believe that we could cut that,
you know, even shorter. Do you see that happening? I'm a former FDA guy, so consider the source.
But I think definitely, you know, without doubt, there's a lot of red tape that can be cut.
These programs need to be expedited. They need to be fast-tracked to use kind of FDA language.
But that doesn't mean you can ignore the science.
You can't rush it.
You have to do it right.
I think government is part of the problem and part of the solution as well.
And certainly when it comes to vaccines, I'm looking at maybe, you know, a year.
These vaccines are hard to discover they're hard to make.
I think when it comes to therapeutics to make the disease a little bit easier to bear,
make it maybe make the overall COVID experience a little bit shorter.
I think that's happening too.
But again, that requires certain tests.
And just throwing out false hope causes all sorts of problems.
It causes misuse.
It causes with chloroquine, for example.
So I think we need to put, you know, the good news in the proper perspective.
Well, but throwing out false hope, but we still, I mean, we need to have a little bit of hope, right?
I mean, people are, I don't know how far we go.
I don't know where the line is.
We talk about it every day, you know, when that, you know, what gets us to the line.
I mean, we've been all been pretty good sheep so far.
I think overall, I mean, we've, you know, America's darn their shutdown.
I don't know where that line is.
So, I mean, we all do need a little hope that the light at the end of the tunnel is actually a light and not a mirage, don't we?
That's right.
And I think the president's job, probably one of his most important job, is to be optimist in chief to let us know that is a light at the end of the tunnel.
But I think we really need to let the experts, the doctors, the FDA regulator types, speak to the technicalities.
I think where the president gets in a little bit of trouble is wanting to put a positive spin on everything.
Everything. He can be the guy.
Right.
But let the experts kind of share the details and the science stuff.
We're talking with Peter Pitts, a former FDA associate commissioner.
And thanks again for joining us here in the break room today, Peter.
What, I mean, there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Is there not?
There most definitely is.
I mean, first of all, the good news here is this is not Ebola.
You're not going to get COVID and start bleeding out of your ears.
You know, the symptoms for most Americans will be mild.
They'll be flu-like clearly for people who are older.
or pre-existing conditions, it can be more serious.
But if the worst happens and you're an average individual,
you get this virus, you'll be home for a couple of days, you'll be better.
And that's also incredibly important because once we start wider-scale testing,
not for people to find out if they have COVID, but to find out if they've already had it,
you can have this huge increase of people who are basically immune
and can go outside and start functioning and helping our economy get back to work.
Originally, I thought I heard reports that that immunity wasn't so.
Is that just a hogwash report so that if you can, you know, re-catch it for lack of a better medical term?
I think that, for all in sense of purposes, if you've got the antibodies of COVID, you're immune from getting it again, at least this particular strain.
Right. Again, that's why it's important to kind of focus on the people that say these things exactly right.
So the right message gets across.
So with your outlook, how long are we looking at for, you know, well, I mean, really, we don't even know if we have a vaccine that is a valid vaccine yet.
We know what people are saying.
We know what doesn't work.
And that's, you know, that's fish food.
I mean, that's fish tank food.
We know that doesn't work.
But we do know that some of the medicines that are already available seem to work.
Yes.
And we, at least on some people, and we know that they're working on a vaccine that hopefully
will work outside timeline.
Well, I think that for therapeutics that make the disease easier to bear and shorten its duration,
pretty quick, you know, maybe a month, maybe a month and a half.
I think that those trials are happening right now and we'll know that we'll know the outcomes
pretty quick.
Plus, the drugs that are being discussed are pretty safe just in and of themselves.
The second thing relative to a vaccine, I think you're looking at it.
a year. I think that by the time a vaccine becomes available, we will have kind of come back down
the curve to a more logical place. I think, you know, timelines for kind of business as usual,
life as usual, you know, I don't have a crystal ball. I wouldn't expect schools to be back in session
for colleges this year. I think that, you know, obviously we'll start saying certain types of restrictions
being lifted as the statistics deem, you know, and some places will be earlier than others.
but it's really important not to trivialize the urgency of things like social distancing.
Yeah, well, I mean, we, I mean, hashtag flatten the curve, right?
I mean, that needs to happen.
There's no question.
I just don't know how long we as America can do what we're doing without, you know,
going insane and bankrupting the country.
My wife was vacuuming yesterday, so, you know, desperate times.
It's really important to keep a sense of humor about this, to understand that the hysteria doesn't help, you know, and that we really have in our own hands, literally, the ability to slow the curve by doing the right thing.
Peter Pitts, former FDA Associate Commissioner and author of Common Sense Health Care Policy for Common Sense Americans.
Thank you so much for talking to us today on Chewing the Fat.
I appreciate it, sir.
Pleasure. Stay healthy.
I know that every day, I mean, almost all the news is surrounding COVID-19 and the coronavirus.
It was nice to have a little bit of hope from Peter Pitts, although he gave, he's talking about the same kind of hope that Chris Cruz wants.
Stop it.
That's the light at the end of the tunnel.
Oh, my gosh.
I didn't want to bring him down when he was on.
and say, Peter, that light is a mirage, man.
It's not a real light.
So I let him have his way.
That's because that's a lot of him have his way.
It's good for him.
Let him have his way.
And on top of which, I don't want to break his heart,
but the wife should be sweeping anyway.
Coronavirus or no coronavirus.
But we do have breaking news today that still is wrapped around coronavirus.
You know, we talked about it the other day.
Corona babies.
Oh yeah.
And Corona babies.
And I just want to say
I found out today
that my man Chris Cruz
is having a baby.
Yeah, I just found out this morning.
So.
So you, and it's not really you.
It's your wife that's having a baby.
No, I'm having a baby.
I had the sex change and I'm having the baby.
Do you know if it's yours?
I think it.
Just asking a question.
I hope it.
But I'm pissed.
I'm pissed, though. I'm pissed. I'm pissed.
Are you planning on naming a COVID or Corona?
I want to spell Corona. If it's a girl here and then I would have wrote it down because
you know, I figured that you might would like to talk about this. I want to, if it's a girl.
If it's a girl, I want to spell it K-A, the little, you know, quotation mark, R-O-N-A. So
Corona.
and then middle name virus, V-Y-R-U-S.
I like it.
Yeah, I like it.
I got to have virus in there, though.
You got to have virus in there somehow, right?
Yeah, have to have virus.
Who's my little virus?
Come here.
And it's funny because it's like, everybody's getting pregnant.
And isn't that what, like, they told us to do during this time?
Well, they also said, uh, rap it.
You know, if, if, you know, we forgot.
to talk about it yesterday, but
in New York City,
you know, they sent out their sex and
corona disease 2019. Yes, they
did. Yes, they did.
And I thought it was very helpful. Do you think so?
I thought it. I think it was a very
helpful list. In fact, do I still have
it? I got up real soon. I like... I like... I like line
number two. And
Jeffrey, I'll send you this, you could tweet it out
if you want. Line number
two says have sex with people
close to you.
it says you are the safest
sex partner
masturbation will not spread COVID-19
especially if you wash your hands
and use any sex toys
with soap and water for at least
20 seconds before after sex
you know and you're right
it that says you know wrap it before you tap it
not in those words
but I also like
in the official
NYC sex
wrap it before you tap it
yeah no no it doesn't say that it doesn't say that but i do like
how they're so
remind you just a second all right just as you're going through the n yc sex guy
i want to remind you that many people now aren't listening to the podcast
in their vehicles driving to and fro yeah they're listening in their homes
with the family yes so
Okay, got it, got it.
Sure cook things wrapped before you take it out of the oven and tap it.
Yes, yes, thank you.
Thank you.
And I like this point too.
It says if you usually meet your sex partner online or make a living by sex work,
consider taking a break from in-person dates and start video dates.
And chat rooms may be in options for you.
But, you know, I also like the, if you or a partner may have COVID-19,
maybe you ought to skip sex.
Uh, no.
Maybe you ought to skip sex.
Who are you to tell me to skip and not skip?
No.
So, anyway, how's your wife?
I want to get back to the pregnancy.
She's good.
She's like super excited.
She's super excited.
I bet.
I mean, I'm excited for you.
Are you excited for me?
Oh, there is.
Nothing, nothing makes life better than children.
I do agree with that.
I am.
And I do have one kid.
I have one kid that lives with my ex-wife.
And I see him, you know, the odd divorce parenting schedule.
And then I have two foster kids.
Not that I want to, before we get to the foster kids, not that I want to, you know, start another fight between you and the X.
But you need to put an end to that right there.
I know.
I know.
It was brought up a couple days ago and ended up not in a way I wanted to end it.
So.
But then I have two foster kids.
And I have a three-year-old and an eight-year-old that I'm raising for the last three weeks.
And then now there's a little pumper-nickel inside autumn.
Wait, I thought she was having a baby.
Yeah, it's a pumpernickel.
She's having a loaf of bread?
A loaful bread.
We already know this?
We know that it's a lot for bread.
Well, it could be a car.
It could be a shoe.
It could be, you know, a spoon.
I'm a fan of pumpernickel, though.
I love pumpernickel.
Yes, I love pumpernacle.
So that's where we are.
Well, congratulations.
Thank you.
Gosh, darn it.
Congratulations.
And I hope that it's yours.
I don't know why I hope it's yours.
but I just do.
Yeah, why do you hope it's mine?
You know, that's a good question.
Now, there are good things happening around the country.
Not all bad.
America is a resilient place.
Americans are resilient.
I don't know how long we're going to take the stay home.
You can't go out orders unless you have special dispensation.
So I guess according, I want, how come I don't?
I want the special badge.
Whatever kind of little special badge, travel badge I'm supposed to have in case I get pulled over.
I wouldn't want the police just to pull me over.
I mean, we've got security guards peeking into people's cars because he thinks that was a little strange.
Why did someone put a trash bag in their van?
How about none of your freaking business, security guy?
Anyway, I digress.
Back to good things.
in America. Like the TV medical dramas, giving their masks and hospital tools to help fight coronavirus
to real hospitals, good for them. We actually have people hiring. Sure, Boeing is shutting down
production in Seattle. Sure, PG&E has already agreed to plead guilty to 84 counts of involuntary
manslaughter.
Sure, SoftBank is going to buy back $41 billion of its assets to get it under control.
Sure, the Olympic Committee is just going to postpone everything.
And by the way, we really didn't need the Olympics anyway, so let's just shut that down.
But people are actually hiring.
Instacart, 300,000 shoppers for the next three months.
Good for that.
That's pretty strong.
Walmart, 150,000 workers.
And they're going to undergo a 24-hour hiring process.
So it's going to be, you got a temperature?
No.
go to work.
Amazon, 100,000 delivery of logistic workers.
CVS and Dollar General, 50,000 workers each.
Wow.
Papa John's and Dominoes, 30,000.
People are ordering.
Kroger, 10,000 workers across the stores and distribution centers and factories.
So there are good things going on.
People are seeing what's happening and saying, well, we need to, we need to compensate for it.
This is America.
Like the strip club that is shutting down.
What do they do?
Have their drivers become the strippers.
Come on, man.
He's calling it Boobber Eats.
I am in love with this guy and these people and these strippers.
Boobber eats.
I hope the app is free
And with every delivery
You might actually get some milk
Thank you
If we had actually
You know this
We weren't have the CQB
We might have a sound effect
And a little bit of sexy music
Right
And the other good news is
Is that
Well this is kind of good and bad
Because the surgeon general
Said this week is going to get bad
and he also quoted chewing the fat and Jeff Fisher
by saying things are going to get worse before they get better
and he said thanks to chewing the fat and Jeff Fisher
I want to make this clear things are going to get worse before they get better
do we have that audio clip I don't have a couple of chewing the fat of Jeff Fisher
I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't have it but we I want the search of general saying
quoting Jeff Fisher and chewing the fat
things are going to get worse before they get better.
We have that audio clip.
Let's go to the audio clip.
Keeps General, go ahead.
Keeps.com.
Are you tired losing your hair?
So we now have 39,09,93 coronavirus cases worldwide.
17,365 deaths,
103,748 recovered.
The United States numbers, though,
as the Surgeon General was busy quoting this show,
getting worse before it gets better,
we now have 48,778 cases.
Wow.
But we only have 588 deaths.
Okay.
So, I know.
Okay.
I know.
I think, I mean, that's the number that we need to focus on.
Yeah, and that's the thing too, a lot of people focusing, which is fine to focus on, like, oh, we have dismin infected.
Okay, how many people have died?
And then that's how you realize if it is something serious, you know, like Tarrant County just shut everything down.
They're like, whoo, who, we can't go anywhere.
You have to stay home until April 7, effective tonight.
Wait.
I live in Terek County.
So, so do I.
Yeah, Judge Whitney Whitley,
he signed the executive order today,
say, effective tonight at 1159 until April 7.
There's a stay-at-home ordained.
And...
Is that what he's calling it?
The stay-at-home ordained?
That's not what he's calling it.
That's what I'm calling.
Oh, okay.
Okay, all right.
And the judge also says,
any person who violets this executive order may be subject to do you want me to
go ahead.
Do you want me to bug you down?
Go ahead.
All right.
I'll start from the top, from the top.
Judge Whitley says any person who violates this executive order may be subject to a fine
not exceeding $1,000 or confinement for a period not to exceeding.
180 days.
Yeah, that's what most of the places around the country are saying as their, as their
restriction guidelines.
Yeah.
A thousand bucks and or 180 days in jail.
So what Jeffrey, what you were saying right now is, for example, this order says all businesses
in Taryn County will be close to the public.
That's incredible.
All public.
That's incredible that they can do that.
Yep.
I've come to think of it.
Here's an idea.
They can't.
No, no.
We're complying with that as American.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
We're complying with their little ordained.
But their ordained might get rolled up and stuffed up their rear rant here real soon.
Also, all public or private gathering of any number of people occurring outside the home are also prohibited.
Wait, but I, what if I have to go to, I have to go to a doctor's appointment, I have to go to the store and get goods.
Okay, thank you for saying that.
All persons may leave their residence only for essential travel.
For example, work in essential businesses.
We do.
Government service.
We do.
We do.
We do.
We do all of those.
Or to perform minimum basic operations.
Yeah, we do all of those.
I need my little badge.
Well, according to the mayor,
Betsy Price. I was looking at her meeting. She's the mayor of Fort Worth. Yeah, I was looking at her
little meeting a couple nights ago and they do have special badges and the badge is a little
cat card. You know, it's like a little ID card like this one. I'm showing in the camera like this one.
And then on the right hand side of the of the ID card, it has a red like red line. That means you're
essential. Oh, is it thicker if you're more essential than other people? No, it's redder.
If you have a thin red line. It's redder. It's redder. They're more essential the redder it gets.
Okay. Yes. So once you, by the way, I thought this was never going to happen in Taryn County, but after
reading that, and of course, you can leave to get to the doctor's appointment or to get groceries.
That's essential. For now. For now. For now. For now. And you know, look, we've got California cities
already going to start patrolling their streets with drones.
I mean, we're just going to hook them up with military weapons and
break it up, breaking up, two people meeting outside their home, break it up.
I can't.
You know what?
Hashtag flatten the curve.
So I get it.
And we need to, you know, keep on progressing with our social distancing.
But what's, I know I keep asking this question and I don't have the answer and I wish I did.
But I don't, what, where is the line?
Where is the straw that breaks the back?
What is the straw that breaks the back?
I don't, I don't have that answer, but there's going to be one.
And that's exactly why President Trump was talking about weeks instead of months.
Yeah.
Because he knows.
He knows.
He knows.
He knows both things.
A, businesses can't serve.
I mean, his business is, you know, going down too.
He knows.
Businesses can't survive.
And Americans aren't going to put up with it.
They just aren't.
Americans are just not going to put up with it.
And I, hashtag, flatten the curve.
Okay.
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Or loser.
I don't want to call them a loser.
I mean, you can.
Okay.
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This is why you all need to get iPhones out there
because iTunes is working.
So, but...
Are you taking money from Apple now?
I'm not taking no money from Apple.
All I'm saying is that all of y'all tell
me that is not working hasn't updated since Saturday. I need to get my talking walking dead. I need to
get my Monday fix. I got you, bro. But this might be time to do some meditation and to realize
I might be doing life wrong because iTunes is updating every single day.
Man, I didn't realize that this show was getting money from Apple and iTunes. And I tell you what,
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Chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher.
Hey, isn't this the time that I don't want to bring up, you know, bad news,
but isn't this a time when we're supposed to have the big Glenn Beck Cruz going on?
Why are you doing that right now?
Why are you doing that right now?
I'm just bringing up.
It's the time because I was looking at a new story, which I thought cruise ships,
I thought the cruise industry was, I shut down.
And there's a brand new story talking about there's a cruise ship still out there
with 42 people experiencing flu-like symptoms headed to Florida.
And I thought, wait, what?
So there's a Holland America's Zandam that, that's, that's,
out there, it's got 1,243 guests have been asked to stay in their state rooms as the ship sails to Fort Lauderdale.
Now, it was supposed to land. It disembarked in Chile.
Chile.
Like I said, it was disembarked in Chile.
Chile.
That's what I said, Chile.
Chile.
And then now it was supposed to, supposed to, supposed to.
to dock in some other city and they said no no oh yeah well no i apologize it was supposed to
dock in chili chile all right that's what i said in chili chile and then chile chile said chile
um no no they said no and our docks are closed man we'd love to have to have
Have you?
Look at the time.
Look at the time.
Kips.com.
Keeps.com.
Are you tired of losing your hair?
So this ship took off on March 7th.
Were we not in the coronavirus window then on March 7th?
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
I mean, was that still a date?
Was March 7th?
And it seems like ages ago and it was two weeks ago.
but March 7th
we
I mean we were still
we were at the point
the break point at March 7
yes we were at the point where we were
deciding what to do
as a country
and then I believe that
Monday the 9th
that's when we started the QCB
right no we started that on the 16
like I said
the 9th
yeah on the 16 but Monday the 9th
that's when everybody started to
close everything down
to start sending people home and doing all that crazy stuff.
So this left Argentina on the seventh.
Argentina.
So, I mean, they made, what's that?
Argentina.
That's what I said, Argentina.
And so it left on the seven.
So it left on just the breakpoint day.
Yes, yes.
I mean, still, I would say that that shouldn't have happened.
No.
I would make the argument on the seventh that cruises.
There was a princess diamond or diamond princess where like nobody wants that super ship.
Right.
And that's what I mean.
This left on the seventh and it was supposed to land in chili.
Chile.
It's not a chili.
It's not something that you eat.
Yeah.
It's supposed to land in food.
It's supposed to land in food.
And they decided that the food was too good for the ship.
No, you can't go.
So now it's coming to Fort Lauderdale.
No, thank you.
No, no.
They did that in California.
Remember the Diamond Princess or the Princess Diamond?
Yeah.
They let her dock in California.
And then one of them died.
Oh, why are cruise ships still rolling?
This should not have happened.
I know.
And why do we have to take it?
And why are they still rolling into the land?
If you're not infected, stay in the water.
even I know that
even I seen the
stupid episode of Fear Walking Dead
I don't know
You stay in the water
And if you need food
Guess what
Turn to a person next to you
Hey you look delicious
And gubble it a little bit
And then if you don't like that person
Go to the other one
Eat that one person
You're fine
And
I am not going to recommend
Dining on humans yet
We're not that far old gone
Okay
And if you have to poop and pee
You're in the water
water, dump it.
Oh, no, no, my friend.
No?
You can't dump it?
No, no, we cannot do that.
We cannot do that.
That's illegal.
I'm sorry, it's poop and pee.
The fish will be fine.
That's illegal dumping in the ocean.
We can't have that.
And if you run out of food, guess what?
Get a fishing rod and start fishing.
That's what I mean, pull out the nets.
Yeah.
Pull out the nets and reel them in.
Let those little, you know, lifesaver boats, bring them down, then bring it back up.
when you get some fish, get some shrimp, get some salmon.
You're good.
Do that on the opposite days of when you're dumping illegal poop and pee in the ocean,
though, so you're not just fishing in the poop and pee water.
If you're dumping poop and pee, you should not be stopping.
It should be like a drive-by.
It should be like, oh, we're here.
All right, let it rip.
Okay.
Now wait a couple of hours and then go.
At least a couple hours.
Yeah, at least.
Oh, by the way, my shoot you did downwind too.
So that goes downwind and then you circle up and then you go to the high grounds.
Like, I feel like this is not that difficult to do.
No, it is not.
You're right.
And that's why we have a captain on these ships.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And if you're looking for a captain, I might be able to help you out.
I will not.
I am not going out on a cruise ship.
No, thank you.
So you tell me right now that if Princess Diamond comes up to you and says,
Hey, Fisher, we heard the podcast.
That's a pretty good idea, but no captain is willing to do what you guys just talked about.
Do you mind captain in this next ship coming from Chile and Doc and in Fort Lauderdale?
Do you mind coming here and, you know, captain this thing up?
All right. Fine. You're right. No problem.
Just who's going to, you aren't not going to say no to that, right?
You're just going to circle the globe in your, in the ship.
What is it, the Holland America, Zandam?
I will bring a weapon, though.
Oh, yeah, you have to.
You have to.
And we're going to continue to do Chewing the Fat,
so you get live shows right from the Zandam.
Would it be before or after you do the poop dump?
Oh, we've got to do that at least one of them live, right?
We do it all live, baby.
That's what Chewereing the Fat is.
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A couple more things before we wrap it up on Chewing the Fat Tuesday from the CQB.
I don't know about you, but I like I'm okay with all the stuff that people try to make go viral.
And, you know, whatever, you're trying to do stupid stuff.
You want to jump off a building.
Go ahead.
You know what?
I'll watch it once.
and then I'll say what an idiot
and we'll move on with my life
because I'm not going to do that
but we had the
we had the chick doing the
coronavirus challenge in the airplane
toilet right and she did it
just to go viral and it worked and she
is if you watched her videos and stuff and we talked
about her she's an idiot
but now we have people who are
who are doing that
trying to make it go viral again as they go out
and lick toilets
and then we have the idiots who are coughing on all the produce at stores and trying to make it go viral.
If we're going to make someone who licked an ice cream container, pay for that legally and do jail time, after he bought it and that was proved that he went back and bought it, still though, it's sent off a bad, okay.
fine okay no problem
I mean I think that we need to really make a
make a point with some of these idiots that are doing this
and put an end to it
but what do you do?
I don't know because I don't know
I saw another video there was a kid
at a Walmart and he started from one
end of the aisle licking all the
the orderants
and went from one end and
lift all the deodorants to the other end.
Now, if I'm at the store and I see that,
I,
I bubble that kid. We're fighting.
Yes. I am fighting. Yes, we are.
And I'm holding him down doing a citizen's arrest, calling the cops.
And I'm holding that kid. And I want to, like,
whatever legal precautions I can take, like, sue him, do something.
Yes.
Something will be done. I feel that it has to.
to start at a local level where if you see this happening you do like the little thing you do
for the dog you flick them in the nose and like what the hell are you doing bro seriously because
there has to be a yeah you got to put it into there has to be something that now we're not going to
kill them you know we don't have the sound effects of the shots we're not going to kill them
we're not going to do that here and shoot the fact we we kill a lot of things but we're not going
to do that we do we do the only reason we're not going to do it is we don't have the sound effect
But go ahead.
Yes, yes.
We killed Fluffy yesterday.
So who knows?
We're day 12 at the CQB by day 24.
We might be killing everybody.
I don't know about you.
Did that person just touch that package?
Dead.
Dead.
Yes.
It could get there.
It could get there.
It could get there.
But we're not there.
It's only been 12 days.
So let's bring it back.
Let's be civilized.
But I feel like it has to be big enough.
I don't think jail time is enough.
You have to.
You have to do something.
You can't just look the other way.
No, I don't think jail time is enough.
I don't think a fine is enough.
I don't know what the punishment is for this.
A thousand dollar fine, $180, $180 days in jail.
I don't think that's enough.
That's what all, that's what everything is.
I don't think that's enough.
I don't think that's enough.
Do you really think that?
No, because guess what?
That person is going to go viral.
Then the other person is going to do it.
Now, I can't support going to TikTok, Twitter,
face would be like, oh, let's ban.
I don't want to do that because then I'm just a liberal.
It has to start at the local level.
I don't know.
And you're right.
What is the answer?
I don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
And you know what else I'm really struggling with is, you know, we've joked around off
the air about being at home and doing it wrong, you know, because we'll be in the
middle of recording the show.
And I'm so hungry.
Dude, you're at your house.
I know.
Oh, you have to do it.
walk the stairs.
By the way, you literally have to walk down the stairs and you're at the kitchen.
You don't even have to walk that far.
I don't like taking the back stairs.
Oh, okay.
Sounds like a personal problem then.
Yeah, but being at home has changed time management.
Yeah.
In-home scheduling.
It's just a whole thing.
And it's been over a week now, a little over a week.
And I'm still kind of struggling with that whole thing of in-home time management.
The whole, because I've started getting up early so that I get my day started.
Instead of, you know, just sleeping in and rolling out in your underwear and coming up here.
Hey, welcome to join the five.
Well, you don't do that?
You know what I mean?
I'm trying.
Yeah.
Yeah, the first couple of years.
I was, the first couple, I was, you know, socks.
Socks.
Yeah.
I was going to get a cup of coffee.
I figured out what's going on.
I mean, I was some tea or something.
So, I mean, I'm starting to get that, you know,
you started to get that schedule going.
But the kids are already on it.
The one thing about our house is that the kids were homeschooled anyway.
All right.
So it's not a big deal having the children here.
It's not a big deal.
What the big deal is is having me here.
I'm throwing everybody.
off. You're the odd one at the house. Like, what the hell are you doing here, Dad? Go to work.
Guess what? I am at work because I'm old. I can't leave the house. So get used to it.
No, but I do, I do have a question for you because I'm still going to home. Yeah, because you're old and you're on the, you on the critical age.
But like I said, how many podcasts have you listened to in the last 12 days?
Oh, Chris.
I guess more, more than I normally do because I'm here.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'm going to be honest with the audience.
But that's not true.
That's not true.
And I'm going to be like, yesterday I had a moment, I had to go to a store real quick.
And I took the even longer route so I could at least catch up.
I had 12 podcasts on Q.
Yeah.
I listened to 6.
I even went like the older.
I stopped here for no reason because.
I really, I don't know how to listen to a podcast at home.
It makes, for me, it makes no sense.
And I'm like, wait, nothing has changed other than I'm not leaving their house.
So how do I listen to my podcast?
You just got a, it's time management and it's home scheduling, right?
Podcast time or when you're doing the dishes, you have the headset on, you listen to the podcast, stuff like that.
Do I, you know, I have to cut my grass.
So do I put my earbuds and do they grow?
That's the time.
Podcast.
Am I doing the laundry with the podcast?
Am I doing the dishes?
Maybe the wife is doing that?
Okay, see, when I was saying that, I was, I was really talking about me.
I was talking about our audience.
I was getting my ideas.
Okay.
Okay.
Can you get with the bed?
Sorry, I missed that.
Yes, I'm sorry.
So when I'm making the bed, am I listening to the podcast, you know, the only time.
Vacuuming, whatever, chores.
Chores around when you're doing your daily chores.
I feel like we need to start connecting.
connecting our chores with the podcast.
Yes.
So if I'm going to do, I'm going to wash my car.
I can't go to the car wash because guess what?
Taryn County says that's not an essential.
So I'm going to wash my car, put some earbuds in, listen to the podcast.
But then the thing is is that once you wash your car since you don't go anywhere,
there's no reason to wash it again.
So I don't know.
Oh, so you killed that one.
Well, guess what?
You need to reshingle the roof.
Somehow you miss a couple of shingles.
and you have to re-shing of the roof,
put the podcast in there.
The place that sells the shingles,
this is not essential,
so I can't get the shingles.
What the hell am I doing?
Well, you have to check on your solar panels.
Make sure that all of them are activated,
so you get on the roof,
you start checking your solar panels,
you go down the line,
I don't know, you feed the dog,
put the dog eight too quick.
You walk the dog.
By the way, this is a perfect chance to,
for a nice walk.
Nothing says that you can't,
oh, hold on,
shelter in place says you can't leave the house,
and that's not essential.
So if you're in town,
it's going to shoot you down
with his freaking drone.
Yeah,
does a dog count?
I mean,
if I'm out by myself,
like,
if I can't gather in a group.
You're dead.
Because all they're going to see on the drone is like,
excuse me.
Excuse me.
This is your neighborhood?
We need some ID.
Do you have a badge with a red stripe?
Excuse me.
I need to see some ID.
I drop the
drone down.
I need to see the ID.
Hold it up to the camera, please.
Just the ID.
I don't see a red stripe gunshot.
Swarm, swarm, swarm, swarm, swarm.
Yeah.
I feel that.
We are so close to that.
I feel like walking a dog is essential.
I feel that that is something that you can't be fine,
$1,000 or 180 days in confinement.
That's what we got to fluffy.
This is not America.
As what got us to fluffy yesterday.
We should not be thinking of reasons.
I should go be outside right now for no reason.
For no damn reason, I should be outside.
I should be outside licking the floor if I feel like it.
I know.
What the hell?
Boy.
Oh, I'm just pissed now.
I'm just pissed at Staring County right now.
Because I want to be outside.
For example, I just went outside to get, we went to the church drive.
The church was helping the, the.
the church people and they give us a case of water toilet paper and paper towels and two doors down
i see you're going to donate no that's for me no no no i'm in need i know what that's what i already
gave to the needy this is given to the people that gave to the needy so i already gave to the needy
i bought groceries to right if you follow me on social media you see that i posted a picture of
me buying groceries for miss laura and mr david she has stage for you guys has stage for
for cancer and she can't leave the home.
So I went out and got her some groceries.
Now this is for the people.
Excuse me, sir.
Do you have an ID?
Can we see that?
Do you know?
I have an ID here.
You see why you're out on the street.
And right here, it's an ID.
Oh, I need to hold that up to the camera, please.
Yeah, it's right here.
It's right here.
You have exactly one hour to remain on the street.
If we find you again, sir, you.
you'll be shot outside. Boom.
That feels like a movie.
That feels like a movie, but that's where we are.
Yes, it does.
So do you still think there's light at the end of the tunnel?
Absolutely.
I have a baby coming.
Excuse me, Sam.
We need to see some identification, please.
Oh, you don't have any?
Ooh.
