Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 404 | Burgess Owens Shines His Light of Optimism | Guest: Burgess Owens

Episode Date: June 27, 2020

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Get no frills delivered. Shop the same in-store prices online and enjoy unlimited delivery with PC Express Pass. Get your first year for $2.50 a month. Learn more at pceexpress.ca. And now a blaze media podcast. Hello, and welcome to Chewing the Fat. Today I bring you a little piece of an American dream story and one that is continuing on to this day. Talk to Burgess Owens.

An amazing man. He's lived an incredible life, and he was kind enough to share some of that life and what the future holds in this interview. So just sit back and enjoy it. And then remember to tell your friends to, you know, like and share and subscribe to the podcast. And don't forget that you can always email Chewing the Fat, Chewing the Fat at the Blaze.com. And you can follow me on social media. Twitter, at Jeffrey JFR, Facebook, Instagram, and a parlor. You can parlay at Jeff Fisher Radio, or Jeff Fisher Radio on Facebook and Instagram as well.

I don't know. I've got to get used to parlaying. But enjoy the interview with Burgess Owens. I know I did. I want to do. you know, have a little bit of a chat with a man who is living his American dream. And, you know, I like to talk about, you know, the American dream and people living it. And it isn't always the same for everyone.

You know that as well as I do. But it is your American dream. And joining me today, a man who, you know, is, you know, been at the pinnacle of success and still remains there. But he started out, I mean, of course, Burgess Owens, you started out at the pinnacle of success, too, didn't you? Well, let me say this. I had a chance to live my American dream. I remember standing on the sidelines with both the Jets and the Raiders and the Raiders. I was with the Jets for seven years, Raiders for three.

But for seven years, we're losing team, but I was just so thankful for the opportunity to stand there, see that flag. Watch the flights, planes go over every now and then, and just think, here I am, getting paid for something I love doing. Yeah. And literally something I never thought I'd get to. And then finally, of course, get to the Raiders, in the days you remember in those days when the Raiders just went football games, it was a while back. And it was.

They still are living on that memory as well. They hung strong on it. That's how great they were, though. I mean, they're still living on with it today. That's great. So anyway, Burgess Owens, thank you for joining me today. It was good to see you, my friend. You're looking great.

Thank you. So, you know, living your American, My gosh, man, you started out, you know, with very little. And you end up going to, you know, going to school and then going to a university and then using your athletics to play, as you said in the NFL and realizing how lucky you were to do that. And then, you know, creating a life with your family and, you know, kids and survival. And, I mean, that's the American dream, right? I mean, you're out there, you're working, you're at the top.

So what's the, and we'll get to, you know, today, what's going on around us. We'll get to, you know, what you see for the future because, you know, really, I know that, you know, no one really wants to, they love telling the old stories, but we've got to look ahead, right? I mean, we have to look to the future. That's the most important that we have in front of us. So from, did you see years ago, ago where you're at now? What a good question. What a great way to start.

Specifically, no. Generally, yes, because I've always believed in an American dream. I believe that we can achieve anything we want to. And I want to give people that are listening a little bit of context because one thing about our country, it doesn't matter how we came here, how long we've been here, how well we speak the language. The American dream, the middle class is available to anyone, anyone who decides to pay the price. And that's what we have to understand. And my history, my background is a good example of that. And this is why the leftists want, the Marxists want to tear down in history.

I understand what's great about who we are. And this is why Karl Marx, back in 1800s said, the founder of Marxism, called Socialism, said the first battleground is rewriting of history. What you need about our country is the reason why we stand aside from every other country in the history of mankind, It was because of the uniqueness of our nation. We started up with Judeo-Christian values.

We started up with miracles of a miracles throughout the 200 years in which we have a God in heaven who's looked after us because we tried to do our very best to serve, to love, to appreciate who we are because we believe in a God. And no matter how we worship them, matter of fact, I was reading just recently the book called, and it's a great book called The 5,000-year-Leap. 5,000-year-Leap, yeah.

And it's very obvious the way our founder started off. They purposely made sure that we had the ability to worship God, not in particular faith. And because we can do that, we, with our different faiths, have the same basic endgame, which we treat people right. We do our best to look at each other inside out versus outside in. That is a history that we share together, and that history says that any culture, any race, no matter how we start, can succeed. My race is a good example. It's not only a good example of the possibilities, but a good example of what the left. do when it's still people's history. What I talk about is in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, because

we were a race that came out of slavery and because we, it's hard to comprehend when you all your life, you never think that you can have an own property, you can ever have a business, you can have to have a family, you can walk down the street and do your own thing without somebody telling them what you do. That is something that most people have no idea how it feels. When a race comes out of that and overnight, they become free, they are all in. They are all in the freedom. Everything it takes to make it happen. happened. So that being said, within 35 years as a slavery, there was a little college called Tuskegee Institution, started by Buket, Washington, in Tuskegee, Alabama, Alabama. And by

they started in 1885, by 1905, that little college was producing more self-made millionaires than Harvard, Yale, and Princeton combined. It was an important. It's incredible, and its thing is, it's hidden. I just did an article of Wall Street Journal last week about black Wall Street. People need to understand in 19, between 1900 and 1920, the little town and Tulsa, Oklahoma, had 60 millionaires. I mean, they had a lifestyle that was overwhelming the white community. That's why it was destroyed by air by the Democratic KKK, because they could not stand the success these people have. So I just want to go back into what happened to 40s, 50s, and 60s, because it gives me context of who we are. Yeah. And during that time, the black

community led our country, an entire country, in the growth in the middle class, men matriculated from college, men committed to marriage over 70 percent, and the percentage of entrepreneurs, over 40 percent. Because of that 40 percent of business ownership, now, I grew up in a black community, segregated community, Tallahassee, Florida. I didn't have inter-interre interactions with white Americans until I was 16 years old. All my life, I grew up around black business owners, doctors, pharmacists, engineers, lawyers, teachers, coaches, coaches, coaches, coaches, and it was a middle-class environment because 50 to 60 percent of black Americans during that time were part of the middle class.

If you understand what happens when money stays with an environment more than a second, it stays a month or two or a year, which is it with now case. It empowers that community not only with income, but with leadership and mentorship and hope for those who are trying to make it work. And we see that happening over and over in communities all over and over and over. Over again, it's true. It is. And so to that point, I grew up in a very, very positive home, middle class, college professor of my dad, my mom was a teacher. We traveled the country by five years old. I was in the mid-90s, I mean, I'm sorry, mid-50s. I was actually living in Liberia Africa. My dad was doing research project there. He could not get a degree, a postgraduate degree in Texas, because when he came back from war, there was Jim Crow laws by the Democrats and party. So he ended up getting up accepted by Ohio State, where he got his PhD at Ohio State. So my point is, the community I grew up in was very, very based on education, faith, industry, and family. And I would, if I had to do it all over again, I would do the exact same

family, the same environment, and the same lessons I learned. Why is that so important? By the way, it was a third black athlete given a scholarship of University of Miami. When I came to the NFL in 1973, at those days, there were no black quarterback centers, middle lineback or free safeties. Because in those days, down south, the Democrats had this narrative that black people couldn't think. Yeah, they sure did.

So when I look back over the last 50 years, I am so... By the way, it wasn't just down south because I grew up in Michigan, in the state of Michigan. Yeah. It was cross the board. And my point being that

if we know our history, we are so proud of where we come from. We're also proud of those, the shoulders of those men and women that we stand on that did their very best. Our parents' generation, Jeff, I tell you, they were the best of the best. I'm so proud of who they were. They'll be a shame, a shame of what's happening today.

Where we have such a division with so much opportunity and so much, too many black people that have bought on to this idea of victimization. One thing that I knew for sure growing up, if somebody said you couldn't, instead of cowing and feeling sorry, we say, you know what, I'm going to prove you or you're wrong. I'm going to work hard. I'm going to study harder. I'm going to run faster. Whatever it takes to show that you're absolutely out of the base and not wrong. And we need to get back to that because that's truly the American way.

It's meritocracy. And I'm just thankful. Thank you for that. Where do we make the turn? You know, you say that. And another example, a perfect example of that is someone who sees the guy down the street drive by in his brand new Cadillac and live in a bigger house. I remember, you know, seeing that as a kid. And I remember thinking not, well, geez, I just go take that from him.

But what do I got to do to get that? I want that too. Yeah. I mean, that's a mindset. That's a way we, we, that's a mindset of how we look at things. It's a couple. It's a couple of things, Jeff. Because we came through a time where we were taught those kind of things that we didn't envy people.

We looked at what they did and we said, you know what, whatever they did, I'm going to, I'm going to emulate. I'm going to do the same thing. And I'm going to get the same results. We have to start off with where we failed our kids, where we failed our country for the last few decades, it's an educational system. One thing about Marxist, leftist, and that's at the end of the gay guys,

that's who we're up against, so it's not each other. There's an ideology that hates everything we stand for. It's a godless ideology that takes misery as a political strategy and keeps people miserable and hopeless so they can get more power. So how do we change this?

We first of all, we need to pull back, cool back all these colleges, these colleges, that have hired and put into their place in their very, in the very center of their education, Marxist and associates who teach our kids how to be Marxists. And we need to come up with an education system based on meritocracy.

That's what I want of the reasons I'm running for Congress. I think this new group that's going to come in. We're going to really look at this as no other Republican Congress ever did because we are patriots versus politicians. I want that to be true. I want that to be true. The first thing we're going to do

is recognize that colleges are our work. enemy. Those that we're paying tax dollars to that have billion dollars of endowments, they're hiring these Marxists who sit there and they wait for our kids with their innocence there and they're excited about growing and being a good American and they take them, they bully them, they indoctrinated them until they come out hating our country. Enough of that. We need to make sure the colleges, first of all, transparent. If they're not giving our kids degrees that they can work with, that success when they come out, that they're producing, not taking, we need to claw our money back. If they can't pass the test, if they cannot,

pick together a curriculum that allows us to have the best talent right here in our country to grow and do the best for our country versus importing other people. Right. Right. Right. One thing about Marxists, they love power and they love their money. Just take our money back and give it to those who actually can produce, produce, and I don't care if it's Harvard, Yale, I don't care what the name is.

Enough of this elitist stuff. They bought- How do you get to that? How do you get to that? I mean, really, it's just the start of teaching and And I guess it's just who is making the decisions of actual history. Right? I mean, true history. We're seeing the fruits.

We're seeing the fruits of the labor of the last 50 years. Oh, you nailed it. We're seeing the fruit is coming off the trees now. 67, 80 years. They've been, because what the leftists do, they're cowers and bullies. They always hide on the underbelly. They'll be a place where they can get tenure, can't get fired, bureaucracy where they can't get fired.

So how do we deal with it? Very simply. We do it by making sure we have for our tax dollars. Because the Congress really controls where our tax dollars should be going and where it should not be. We've not started looking at putting legislation together that there is transparency. And there is some type of accountability to what these people are doing. And right now it has not happened because we have so many lobbyists for education. We have so many elitists on both sides of the aisle who care less.

So this new group's come in, and we're going to start looking at things, not only at education, but balancing our budget, health care in a way that can get everyone done in a fair way that could be affordable, Social Security, things that have been untouchable because we've had elitists on both sides of the aisle don't want to touch it. We can finally get because we have a president. This is important. We have a president who loves our country most. He does it.

He does it for free. He does it because he wants our country to come back. All we need to do is have a Congress. that will take that leadership of Love America First and duplicate and replicate that. That's an incredible lie to that people don't repeat enough that our president does it for free. Free, yeah. For free. And we're now going to hear that because understand leftists, understand Marxist and Socialists.

This is the first of all, it's an evil ideology. I'm using that word purposely. It's an evil ideology. Either this goodness in this world is this evil. Evil is when you hurt people purposely so you can get power. The ideology is evil and those who apply themselves to do evil things other people.

They can always change if they decide to, but those who apply themselves and do those things that Marxists do, that's why people are hurt, they're killed, their business, the laws, on purpose so they can get more power. So as a country, we don't like that kind of stuff. We don't like bullies.

So that's why I have so much faith, Jeff, in terms of where we're heading off, I think we the people have always done the right things, even though sometimes it takes a miracle. There's a miracle of the pilgrims. There's a miracle of Valley Forge, George Washington, Gittesburg with Lincoln, midway with World War II. Believe me, there's going to be a miracle today, as we're now seeing not hypothetically, but what evil looks like. We have governors and mayors who send old people, retired people, nursing home people into nursing homes that they know this disease is going to eat them alive. They do it anyway. You see, governors and mayors who

cut down and stopped people going to church ten at a time. Meanwhile, they're standing in front of protests hundreds of people because they're burning down business and tearing down monuments. It's incredible. I hate saying that it's incredible because there's so many things that happen now that are actually incredible that you didn't think you'd ever see. Well, let me tell you why you're seeing it. Let me tell you why I see it. I had a chance when I was six years old, and I said an opportunity. Something happened or I almost drowned. I understand what panic feels like.

When my cousins came out, they saved me, thank goodness, but boy, I could care less about them. I was just, I mean, I was grabbing for air. That is what the left is going through right now. They are panicking. They realize what the president is pulling back the curtain in a way that all Americans will see who they are. They no longer can be progressively slow and strategic. These guys have no shame. They have no conscience.

They were alive through their teeth and could care less about whether they're caught out, they're trying to survive. So thank goodness. I certainly, you know, thankful that he's the man in the office, right? I mean, the beating that this man has taken over the last three and a half, four years is incredible. It is actually incredible. I say sometimes I wonder, first of all, I grew up really understanding how to deal with

bullies. So I'm with them 100%. I've always taught to run at bullies as fast you can, hit him as hard as you can. But I am impressed when you see a person get us. every single day with all the weight that's put on him and every single day has energy to fight this guy. It is remarkable. No one else could have done it. I tell you what. I don't think so. We all have our ups and downs in life, right? We never know it. Seeing our president boy, he just comes out swinging every single day. So thank goodness we have, as again, we've been blessed as a nation

in time we're going to look back and realize how close we came and how we did people once again because innately, innately within our DNA, we do the right things at the right time for the right reasons. It's just who we are. So trust we the people. Trust our fellow Americans. We're going to wake up Democrats, independents, Republicans, all of us are going to come together and realize we're against an enemy that's trying to destroy our culture. And we need to come together on that one. So let's talk a little bit. Well, before I do that, we'll talk a little bit about you. I know you're in the middle of a campaign running for office. So if people want to help you out, which, you know, of course they do.

You know you want to help him out. Where do they need to go? And what do they need to do? Thank you so much for that. And let me just say this. I'm running for the fourth district in Utah. Why does it matter to you? You guys listening?

Because this district is being one in three a must have by both sides. One in three. Democrats must have this seat to keep their power. We must have this seat to keep our country and our culture. So it's just, it really is that simple. And I tell you what I love about it, the values that we have,

here are the same values I grew up in Tallahassee that's allowed me to speak to you the way I am right now. It's the same value. So I feel blessed, me honest with you, to have the opportunity to be in a district that there can be the linchpin for our entire country to bring us back in a way that we could finally say, no, we're not going to, we're not going to go for it anymore. We now understand who you guys are. We know how stealth. We know how strategic and intergenerational you guys work. We now understand that we're going to put together Congress that is going to be a CIL team coming through and doing what we've always wanted, a Republican Congress to do, and we're going to not only do our job, we're going to give some more backbone to

the Senate and give our president a chance to finally do what he needs to do without both hands tied behind its back. So we're going to be in good shape, guys. Just watch what happens. Bless you. I want that to be true desperately. Now, you know, and maybe someone hasn't explained to you, so I'm just going to throw it out there. You know that if you win, when you win, you have to go to Washington, D.C., right? You know that. Yes. Yes. Just so you know. I'll help you out. Yeah, yeah. Those who want to help is at Burgess for Utah. And we're in the last few days of primary and guys, we need as much support as we can. So for those who are listening, obviously the dollars count because that's how we get the message out. But I'll say this. I came from, and Jeff, you remember the Raiders. I mean, a few of us remember the Raiders in the old days. It was such an awesome culture. I remember being with the Jets playing against these guys and thinking as they were beating us in New York, boy, I wish I was with those guys. because it was a team of the motley crew.

I mean, guys who could not make it any place else, they were too young, they were too rambunctious, too wild. They were too old. They were too fat. Their hair wasn't short. The world was, you know, they were spinning and they had beards.

It was great. It was a place, it was a culture and it kind of reminds me of our country, by the way. We're a country that's so diverse, and most of us feel like underdogs, which is a good thing. But one thing about the Raiders, is that Al Davis said,

we're going to pull these guys together. Our goal is one simple thing, no matter what distraction might be, the goal was just win, baby. That's all, I mean, whatever took. And that's what our country is about. And our country has always been about that. All we have to do is a nation is realize we're in a fight.

And I'll tell you, Jeff, the downside of being optimistic like we are, we're eternal optimists, we believe in our dreams. So sometimes we get into a little bubble. We think about our kids, our vacations, our retirement, our jobs. And so we forget that it's evil at the door at all times.

Well, guess what's happening? COVID came along. The riots came along. The left is now that are unabashed anti-American, anti-flag. We realize there's an evil at our doorstep. And guess what we're going to do as a country? Democrats, independents, and Republicans, we're going to come together and say, you know what? Not in my day.

Not in my time. We're going to make sure we pass this down to our kids. They have a great future that we had coming through this. And we're going to come together and we're going to put President Trump back in. and its down ticket will allow us to keep the House, strengthen our Senate. And a year from now, we're going to say, my goodness, there's another miracle.

We had a chance to experience it, and now we know there's a God in heaven after all, for sure. For those who are adding doubts, there is one. And we're going to see how it looks. I love that message because the overall picture now seems a little dreary. You know, we have, you know, when you talk about, you know, protests or, you know, riots, And, you know, with so many of the rules and new mandates coming from states and local municipalities, most of them still throw in the idea that, well, you can still protest.

It's okay. Don't worry about that. We still have the protesters. No one wants to, you know, upset that apple cart of protesting into riots that's already happening. So, and it doesn't matter. You can explain until you're blue in the face history. It doesn't matter. They want to burn it down.

So I pray that you are right. And your message is one of it'll turn around because it does seem dark. Well. And it does seem dark. I mean, it seems worse than when you talk about growing up in a segregated society. Okay. And, you know, and then the racist mentality of, you know, you talk about, you know, the black guys can't be a quarterback. they're not smart enough.

They can't be a running bad. They're not smart enough. I mean, shut up. Yeah. What are you talking about? I remember, I remember hearing that as a little kid thinking, what are you talking about? Well, just think how far we've come that our kids sometimes have a hard time recognizing what true racism look like. And I'll say this, for everybody's listening, evil always fight as hard as before the dawn.

I understand that's because the dawn is coming. and if they can't get their deal done with, it's over for them. So that's what we're dealing with. So know that we're going to be fighting this all the way until November. Yeah, that's for sure. And just know that every place that there's this destruction,

every place there's death, police being attacked, monuments being torn down, cursing and the graffiti and just anger, it's always some democratic strongholds. That's for sure. We even have, and it's conservative,

as Salt Lake City is, and this Utah is, we had, and we had a ride here. Why? Because downtown is controlled by Democrats. Yeah. So they let, they let these people come in from out of town, and they start turning upside down cars and a whole bit in a place that never would have this happen. That would never happen here. This is a kind of very peaceful community would never ever happen. But all here is people, well, is it a democratic controlled city? Yep. And that's why these people, that's why these people do it. So, so we're going to, this allows us to define the difference, Because up until this point, it's been very hard to talk hypothetically about the evils of socialism and Marxism. We're going to talk to a blue.

We're blue in our face. And we have, yeah. We have. But now, guess what? Now, Democrats for business owners can see their business been shut down and destroyed. Black owners and urban communities can see the door is made open up so their business has been destroyed. They're now understanding that there is something that's not right about this Democratic Party. It never has been.

Oh, by the way, I need to say this before. let this go. I want Americans. The next time we have a lynching hoax, let me tell you how we end that. Let me tell you how we end this forever, okay? I want your audience and share this with your friends and neighbors. Whenever you hear the word lynching, think Democrat. Think Democrat. Why? Because it was a Democratic KKK that lynched over 4,300 people. Thirteen hundred of them, by the way, were white Republicans, Italians, and Jews. So no, it's been a very evil people. It's not a color is an evil ideology of judging people and their work from outside in, not inside out. And that's exactly what Democrats do the day. They judge people from outside and not inside

out. So it hasn't changed. That party has never changed for those who care about folks, take the time, pause, and even if you just become independent, do something but continue to go with the party that's shown itself over 200 years as being very anti-American and anti-American, you know, other other people that are not like them. Yes. I hear lynching. Democrat. Democrat. That will end the hoaxes.

They won't bring those hoaxes up anymore. We'll be done with them. Once and for all. Burgessforutta.com. Burgessforutta.com and I could spend another hour with you and I know that you're a busy man and I need to get rid of me. So I really appreciate it, Burgess. I was great seeing you again and I appreciate it. And I am so happy with your optimism.

it makes me feel so much better. And feelings are most important. We learned that from the Democrats. There we go. Well, listen, guys, just know this. We know our history. We know where we're heading off to. This is a country that always comes together

and it's always been blessed because we're the light of the world and that will never change. So just know this is a tough time but we can come out of this. And our other side of this, we'll talk about just how we pull it off. And so anyway, I'm looking forward to that process.

We'll get it done. All right. I love it. Thank you. Okay, buddy. Thank you.