Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep. 41 | Is It Too Late For America? | Guest: Rabbi Daniel Lapin & Susan Lapin

Episode Date: November 17, 2018

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You're listening to Chewing the Fat on Demand. Welcome to Chewing the Fat Saturday edition. Just a little bonus podcast for the week. Today, we've got Rabbi Daniel Lapin, who is in the building, and I cannot allow this man and his wife to come in this building without sitting down and talking to them personally and privately. So this is the personal interview with Rabbi Daniel Lapin and his wife's Susan. It was really good to see him. He's a tremendous man. And if you have an opportunity to

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Once you're done with listening to Rabbi Daniel Lapid and myself, have a great weekend. And we'll see you someday in the future. I don't want to say exactly a day because I'm not. I know I wanted to say tonight, I wanted to say tonight because we're going to have the Mercury 1 gala, but if somebody's listening to this on Sunday, then it's not tonight, is it? It's not tonight. So then I'll see you when. When will I see you?

I don't know when I'll see you. If I don't see you on Saturday at the gala, send me a selfie and we'll see you that, okay? You can send me a selfie at Jeff EMRA or Jeff Fisher Radio on Facebook and Instagram. All right. Have a nice weekend. Thanks. So welcome, welcome back. And Rabbi Daniel Lapin, the man himself in the house with the beautiful wife, Susan.

And of course, if they're in the house, you know, the Mercury Studios, they have to have them in the studio and on the show. That's a law. Wouldn't have even considered the possibility of not being here. Thank you very much. Now, I know you and Glenn probably, I know you were here to, we saw you on the radio, show earlier today, the 15th of November, 2018. And I know that he brought you in to talk a little bit about it on his separate

podcast, which will air sometime in the future. So I'm sure that you and he talked a lot about liberalism and Islam walking hand in hand. I heard the tease for that. And I will get your thoughts. And I do want to talk to you about your thoughts on the impending doom that many feel. But first, a long time ago, you were here. and I think it was off the air.

We were talking about a certain scenario that I have thought about ever since you started talking about it. And I'm still trying to remember what the reason was that you were using this scenario. And it may have been intent. But I'm going to tell you the story

and I know you'll remember it and you'll go, oh, well, dummy, I was talking about this. But let's say you jump off a building and tending to kill yourself. All right? Yes. And as you're falling,

someone fires a weapon and hits you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah? So if you die, is it murder? And if you live, is an attempted murder. Right. Now, remember, you started, the person that got shot was intending to kill themselves. Right.

And the weapon fired didn't really have an original intent on hitting anyone. But, all right, where am I lost? What were you talking about? Oh. Do you remember it all? Yeah, no, I absolutely do. And you're remembering exactly right. But Susan, you can probably jump in as well.

The only part I'm questioning is it, I thought the intent was to shoot the person, not that they just was accidentally shot. Yeah, no, it was. Okay, he was trying to shoot him. Okay, so the guy would be dead in five seconds anyway, but you made it happen earlier. Right. That's right. So you took away five seconds of his life.

Okay. And that constitutes murder. So what we were talking about at the time was the idea that there's certain absolutes. For a society to function, there need to be certain unchangeable absolutes. and that murder is one of us. You don't engage in any subsequent analyses of how long of his life did you deprive him of? How old was he?

How old is he from? Because if you do that, then the next logical step after that is, well, it's obviously killing an old person should be less of a crime than killing a young person. And even if he had intended on killing himself by jumping off the building. irrelevant. It wouldn't matter. He may have lived when he hit the ground and it's not up to you to

decide that anyway. It's none of your business. That's quite right. That for society to function, there have to be those absolutes. And we've used that principle with our own children where, and I'm sure this will resonate with all parents, where you, you know, you hear whales and crying coming from the next room. You go in and, you know, three of your kids are all at one another's next. And you said, okay, who started this? And they all point fingers in the other direction. And then someone, well, he hit me first. Another one said, well, I didn't hit you.

I just touched you. Yes. And so we instituted exactly that same policy. In other words, we will never sit in judgment about how hard the touch was. As far as we're concerned, a right roundhouse from the shoulder is the same as a pat. He who touches another person is liable, period. That's it. End the story. Done. It doesn't matter. Stop.

And so this way we solve the problem very, very quickly. It was whoever raised a hand first. We don't care how hard. Right. And that's where that principle comes from. You shoot somebody. We're not interested in how long you had to live still. It's irrelevant. Right.

So your podcast, the Rabbi Daniel Lapin show, with yourself. And I know Susan, you know, like my wife from time to time finds their way on the podcast. Yes, absolutely. Because that's what they do. And it's good to have. We end up writing a lot together. And see, Susan came up with something which shocked me early in our marriage because

I'm a public figure. I speak in public. A lot of broadcast. And she came up with something which, you know, I really caught on. It didn't take me more than a year or two before I finally understood it. And that was that I speak. for her as well. Right. And so that meant that in as far as it's practically possible I need to make sure that she's in agreement with things that I say

publicly. So you know occasionally if I'm doing an interview and somebody asked me a question and it's out of the blue and I just got to answer it happened you know and then she'll sometimes say I didn't agree with the answer you gave to that person we'll discuss it and sure and yeah it's fine but but basically every now and then she's on the show with me because it's something that either she has done much more research on than I have and so I can either say this is what Susan told me or just let it tell you herself so you teased something on the the radio show that broadcast out of this building every day by some guy I don't know Glenn his name is something like that yeah whoever

owns this stupid building I don't know about reissuing one of your earlier books with new material. Yes. When can we look forward to that and what were you talking about? Okay, this is one of the very good examples of why there is a benefit in having Susan and me on your show. So we'll answer that question separately. Nice.

I'll give your answer. Your answer will be, oh, three, four months. Yes, that's my answer. Three, four months. Yes. Okay. My answer is it's not going to happen until certain things get in place. And if they don't get in place, there's not going to be a new book.

book, but I really hope there is because it's a great book. So things should get in place by three, four months, and then it will happen, right? Yes, that's how I see it. Thank you. I say three, four years, but I'd love to go. I like coming in early. After we've teased it today, it can't be. No, it will.

It can be. It's so much. It's such a great book. And this, this came out 20 years. Is it? I think it's exactly close. Close to 20 years. Close to 20 years ago.

And I'm really, I'm excited. the more I look back on this book, the more impressed I am with me. And with Susan as well, because it's things that are just are truer now than they ever were then. So it was a little prophetic back then, unintentionally, but it was. So the subtitle is an Orthodox Jewish rabbi explains, insists that Judeo-Christian values are vital for our nation's survival. And in the book, I explain why the majority of self-identify. American Jews are on the wrong side of things, why they're liberal. I talk about it. I explain that. I'm sure they were a fan of that. Sorry? I'm sure they were a fan of that. Well, in the first few years

after the book came out, we used to get hate mail in Hebrew. I believe that. Yeah. But I think that was really what started the book was that in all honesty, people wherever you went asked you that question. Yes. They said, obviously, the way the liberal movement is going in America, not pure liberalism, but what's happening is going to end up in anti-Semitism. It's going to end up being bad for the Jews. And it has. And how can, why do Jews keep on voting for this? Right. Right. Why is that? Yeah. So, um, so we realize the book, we, we secured the rights to republish the book. We're going to do that. And when we wrote it, nobody knew the word Muslim. It wasn't there. Right. Yeah, this is before, the first world trade center attack

before 9-11 and so this changes this changes everything and the real question that that we think is the centerpiece of the book is we're going to explain the answer to a baffling question which is how can American

liberalism advocate and befriend aggressive Islam particularly since they will become its first victims if Sharia ever gets established No question. And how is that? I mean, really, and there's, I know you probably ducked a long answer with Glenn to this, but I don't want to wait to watch his silly podcast.

Sure, sure. Although I will because you're on it. But why is that? I mean, because we see it in action. Yes, we do. It seems obvious to many of us that they're going to, you're going to end up eating your own and you're on the wrong side of it. Right. So the clue is that the left wants to destroy America's oil industry and America's coal industry, right? Okay. Hard to argue with that. What they want is sustainable energy. And so what they like pushing is wind and solar, in spite of the fact that everybody, including the New York Times, the Holy Sacrament of the Left, agrees that these are non-viable. You can't.

If they were, we would be using them. Yeah, they're just not viable yet. Maybe they will be one day, maybe they won't. But right now, they're not, not even close. The one thing that actually is viable is nuclear power. Right, and we haven't updated that. We're a far cry from Fukushima. We're a far cry from Chernobyl.

We actually could be, and they don't want that either. No, they do not. So the answer is that the left is filled with an implacable loathing for West in civilization. That's all this is. And in that, they have a common cause with Islamic jihad. You know, we mustn't forget that institutional memory in Islam runs long. And so it's not a coincidence that Muhammad Atta chose September the 11th for the attack, because in their world, it's better known than in ours that the last time a Muslim attack on the West was thwarted was at the gates of Vienna in 1683 in the month of September on the 11th day.

And so it was time to put that right, as it were, and mount another assault on the West, the dominant symbols of the West. So that's really part of it. I mean, what drives the anger and the fury on the Americans, university campus and the campus of course is the the temple of American leftism are you just pause for just a minute because I want you to get back to that but are you even allowed to drive by a college campus a university campus I mean is there some they even allow you to be close to a university campus I hope so I have spoken on university campuses

I hope you take Susan with you for only only under the auspices of Ron Robertson's Young America's Foundation. Okay. Because I believe in that organization, I believe in run, I think what they're doing. So when they ask me to I do, other than that, I do not speak on university campuses, for the very simple reason that they don't like paying my fee. And I'm like anyone else, I think economics are important. You'll feed the family.

Well, it's not only that. It's a measure of my value to you. And so if I'm not willing to you. If I'm not worth the fee, why would I want to come? If you don't think I'm worth it. You're not a charitable organization. Right. And so that's really a large part of it.

You know, that's not a bad thought to hold for many people across the country in today's world. That you need to be worth. You need to feel that you're worth what you are. There's also, there's too much hostility towards wealth. Have you noticed that, you know, stinking rich. Well, in my experience, it's a lot more stinking to be poor than it is to be rich. No kidding. I mean, look at the, and I use this word as not as the pun it is, but look at the heat that the

Kardashians are getting for hiring a private fire fighters to save their home. And eventually, because they did that, saved a neighborhood. Right. And you're also getting, I mean, Amazon moving to Long Island in New York. There's a set. And guess what? All that anybody's talking about there is how. Dare they build a helipad for Jeff Bezos' helicopter.

Right. This is an incredible resentment. It's amazing. And so, and I think it's a mistake. You know, it allows politicians to do things like saying, you may remember the famous statement by President Obama. The rich must pay their fair share. Fair share.

Right. They don't define who the rich is and they don't define what the fair means. So all of these things. The fair share is everything. Yeah. The fair share is everything. Yeah. Everything you got.

Thank you. Thank you. You next year. Yes. All right. So it's going to be everybody. But anyway, just for those reasons, I think it's important to be okay. Leonardo DiCaprio had this great line playing Howard Hughes in the movie The Aviator,

and he's dating Catherine Hepburn. And he's talking about one of the economic success of one of the planes. And then Mrs. Hepburn, the mother, looks down her nose at him, and she says, in this house, we don't like talking so much about money. and he quickly snaps back and he says that's because you got it. Sorry years later. Chelsea Clinton said that a few years ago.

What was that? She was on, she was, you know, had just had these tremendous jobs that of course she got only because of who our parents are. Oh yeah.

And she made a comment about how she just doesn't like to think about money. Well, yeah, when you just had a million dollar wedding, you know, you didn't have to think about it too much, did you?

And during those days, and she actually has to start thinking about it a little bit, although hubby is, you know, she married someone who was quite well off himself. But now that was back in the days when everybody was dumping money into the Clinton Foundation. They weren't worrying about anything at all because every time they turned around, a few more million was being popped into that account.

That's exactly right. So anyway, that's what I'm saying. I don't speak at universities a whole lot just because it's not economically viable for me to do so. But I do whenever Young America Foundation. So most recently was a college in Northern California. and yeah, as you'd expect, it was unbelievable. Barbarians. They targeted the campus with asking people to come protests,

this terrible person who was coming to campus, and it said, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, and then it went through, he racist and homophobic and anti-everything. And dot, dot, dot, dot. And this one is capital letters. And a capitalist. Yeah, I was in Islamophob. Everything, you everything.

And not only that, a capitalist. But the worst, yeah. The worst was the capitalists. They were building up to that one. It's so fascinating to me that we've allowed that to happen, but we certainly have. We certainly have. I mean, the way I see it is that, is that this is really no different. You know, imagine, imagine what happens if a Nazi was pointing his point in his

pistol at a Jew in November 1938 in Berlin and the Jew says, interesting that you should be pointing that offensive weapon at me, why don't we head over to the nearest bar and we'll sit down, we'll have a symposium

on your feelings about it. What happens is the Nazi pulls the trigger. Or in 720 when the Muslims were invading Spain. Imagine a priest, a Catholic priest would have stepped into the path of the Muslim hordes and said, you guys, you'll probably find it interesting to hear my viewpoint

on the idea of religious pluralism on the Iberian Peninsula. But that had taken off his head. And I think that's exactly what's going on on the campus. It's a religious war. It's a war between the religion of secular fundamentalism and the religion of a more traditional Judeo-Christian-based system. They don't care about what I'm going to say. I am a heretic.

And what you do is you silence and preferably kill heretics. That's preferably what you do. So other than, I hesitate to say, other than to retaliate, how do we win? What is the retaliation that wins? Well, we first of all shut down all the universities. They're doing no good at all, other than science, technology, engineering, math colleges. But all the liberal arts and, you know, why are we wasting so much money? and allowing people to build up student debt for courses on race and gender in medieval literature.

Like, who cares? Well, that's actually one of the, that even sounds almost plausible. It does. It does actually sound plausible. But how about in The Simpsons? I mean, that's everything. No, so back to money, you see, if nobody is going to pay you or employ you in a job with something you're learning a university, that's a good idea. It's a good hint. You shouldn't be doing it.

That's probably true, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, initially, the idea that society continues to be taxed, you and me pay taxes to keep the university system open, and it's finished. It has to be restarted. It's cancerous. It has to be excised, and it needs to be rebuilt completely. And they know that it's backed up, you know, when the government said that they would be okay with taking, you know, they're going to help with the student loans. Yeah. I mean the universities were able to raise their prices and who's going to say no. Yeah, exactly. It's a great system.

But don't forget that today's a tenured professors are the radicals of the 1960s. So they're living the dream on your dollar of mine. All right, so, okay, so that's number one. Yeah. Number one, that's our first retaliation. Number two is to remember that this country came into being the war of independence was won against the British because of, fuel that flowed from the pulpits of colonial churches. You know, it's so funny that you said that because I'm sure there's a big list. It might actually be a book for you to write the list of retaliation to win. But one of the things that I wrote down this morning after you and I talked about chatting this afternoon, I wrote down church, synagogue, fellowship, attendance is down for many,

if not all religions, many saying that they would prefer to worship at home. Why is that what is so important about actually worshiping together? Because there, when like-minded people get together, the sum total isn't just the sum of the numbers. In other words, you know, let's imagine you and I had an interest in achieving some goal, either business wise or whatever it was. I hope it wasn't anything to do with capitalism, I'll tell you. Right.

And you know, imagine that you by yourself could come up with ten good ideas. in an hour. And let's say I could do the same. If we got together, that doesn't mean that in an hour we come up with 20 good ideas. We come up with 100. There's a multiplication factor. And that's what happens when people get together. And whether it's at a university on that side of things, or whether it's in a church or an orthodox synagogue, on the good side of things, it gets, or by the way, when Glenn, do you remember the gathering in the mall? I do. Okay.

He may not like it when I tell him, but I think he played a role in the election of Donald Trump in 2016. Because, you know, there were tens of thousands of people there who went away feeling unified, feeling they can do something and they can. Yes. When people get together, it's immensely powerful for good and for bad. We're good and bad. So that's really what happened at the time of the war for independence. A second great religious reawakening in America, of course, was the abolition of slavery, which again, people don't like remembering, but again, it was propelled by pastors and priests

from the pulpits of American churches. That's what ended slavery. And the same thing was true in the United Kingdom. Will be force and the others. This was all religiously driven. And so we look forward to a third. religious reawakening in America. And we're optimistic about it because we mix with people

who are actively engaged in that. So we're not without hope. I'm glad to hear that because I'm close. I'm close to be without hope. You look around, I mean, I feel like we're close to being doomed. Gosh, and you're in Dallas and you feel like, imagine what it would be like if you're in San Francisco. I can, as a matter of fact, I can't imagine that.

Susan, give a word of optimism for Jeff. Yes, thank you. You know, I do think that, look, the young people are, leaving immigration aside, look, it's a problem. That's a very serious problem of bringing in people. And we don't anymore have an American value. And my grandparents came as immigrants. They knew what becoming an American meant.

We don't know what it means. I mean, people who've been here for seven generations no longer share a view of what does it mean to be an American. So how can you ask other people to buy into that? But leaving aside that... But she's supposed to be making it as optimistic. I'm waiting for the optimistic part. Yeah.

So the fact is I think that... Look, I think we've been brainwashing young people. And technology is a problem because they are... It is an addictive thing and they get taken. And then there's... But it's also wonderful. No, it is wonderful. But for young brains, they're being trained to not think for themselves.

And then they go to college. And they're also told, it used to be you went to college. to think, and that's where I would differ with my husband, that it wasn't only to earn a skill that you could earn a living, but you would become educated. People aren't becoming educated anymore. They're becoming propagandized. They're told what to think.

You used to go to learn logic and debate, and how to express yourself. I mean, that was the original, just to put a pause on that, but that was the original idea behind becoming tenured, right? Is that you could become tenured at a university. That way you were free. Not worrying. Right.

You were free to think and free to expand your mind. But now they turned that into free to brainwash. If you want to see how good an idea tenure is, just look at the post office. Right. And by the way, I've always wanted to be Postmaster General as a side note. So, I mean, if you don't want someone to run that place for you, I'm happy to do that for you. But I do think that, you know, we have kids. We see them.

We see their friends. And I think there is a yearning. People, you know, a lot of kids have grown up without families, without an intact family. We've really done very badly by a generation in many cases as America as a whole. And I think that there is a yearning for, and I think truth does speak. And if we can learn how to speak and how to care for these people, I think they will, they are open. You know, the whole walkaway campaign are young people who are saying, I'm thinking for myself.

Now, you notice that hasn't been on the cover as far as I know of the New York Times magazine or anything. You know, the march took place. Confined a word of it. We cover a lot of a lot of bad. So I think, I think a lot of it is to be able. to highlight those things so that people who've never heard of it say whoa you read four stories and you go that's amazing right right so um all right i'll put a little smile on my face

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