Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 41 | Scamming Scammers | Guests: Art Kulik & Ashton Bingham

Episode Date: March 1, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Fat Pile Friday. Thanks for coming along for the ride today. You can remember to follow me on Twitter at Jeff E.MRA. Facebook and Instagram is Jeff Fisher Radio. And of course, you can always subscribe, rate, and review on the podcast, Chewing the Fat with yours truly, Jeff Fisher. I love how you just trust me so much that you think I'm recording right now. You just didn't ask. You just turn on your mic.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I love that. You just trust that I am recording at all times when you speak. you're saying that means that you're not recording yeah can you give me a second give me a second no but I'm sorry thank you okay it means a lot it means a lot it means a lot okay now I'm recording
Starting point is 00:00:46 but thank you for actually trust in me with your show welcome to chewing the fat it's yours truly Jeff Fisher thanks for coming along for the ride today you can always follow me on Twitter at Jeff EMR Facebook and Instagram
Starting point is 00:01:01 is Jeff Fisher Radio and a little behind the scenes info. A lot of times we talk about stuff and Chris Cruz is presumably the producer of the broadcast. We are sitting in for that if you've watched the network before, you know that the Blaze Radio studio is one room and then it's directly across from where I talk into a microphone is the producer's studio
Starting point is 00:01:22 and where they have the board and the microphone and some computers that record stuff for us. They're watching right now. I don't know why you need to explain this. They're literally watching us. When I look up and I see. see Chris Cruz sitting there at the board directly across from me, I believe everything's ready
Starting point is 00:01:36 to go for the show. It's funny how that works. It doesn't really, it's not a little a trust thing. It's not a, oh, hey, Chris is the best guy in the whole world for everything. It's, oh, there he is, sitting at the board right across from me. That means we're ready to go for the show. Anyway, thanks for coming along for two of the fed.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Make sure that you subscribe and rate and review this podcast, too. And I'm not kidding. All right? First of all, subscribe. sick of begging people for subscribing. We're not begging. Stop saying that. We're not begging. But seriously subscribe. I'm begging. At what point in life
Starting point is 00:02:12 are we going to get past this crimes are hate crimes and how crimes are just not crimes? There's a regular crime. There's a hate crime. So this woman gets sentenced to 15 years for a brutal brick beating of a 92-year-old man. Now, she beat the
Starting point is 00:02:30 living crap out of this old man. on the 4th of July in 2017. She got 15 years. But it was with a brick and it was considered a hate crime. If you beat someone up with a brick, while I believe that no matter what, it's a hate crime, it's still a crime. You almost killed this guy with the brick.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Isn't that manslaughter? I mean, it's just, well, it would be, It wouldn't be manslaughter because he didn't die. So what is it? So it would be, it would be... Intent? No, what's it called? We both have it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 We were almost there. I was a juror on a case that this happened on. Oh, okay, okay. The guy, the case, I'll think of it, because he was with a deadly weapon. Assault with a deadly weapon. Okay, it's assault with a deadly weapon. Because the juror, when I was a jurist,
Starting point is 00:03:31 this guy took a drill an electric drill with the cord and he was swinging it around above his head and he slammed this guy in the head like three or four times I thought he drilled
Starting point is 00:03:43 no he was just the electric drill with the cord yeah he's swinging it above his head and he's just digging this guy in the head with this drill right yeah
Starting point is 00:03:54 and yeah we found him guilty he went to prison but it wasn't manslaughter because the guy didn't die So it was assault with a deadly weapon. So that is that? Yes, this was assault with deadly weapon. He got 15 years.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The guy that I was a jurist for got seven in prison. Oh, you guys are, you was. No, I wasn't up to me. It was up to the judge. We found him guilty. I spent the whole trial thinking he's not guilty. I mean, I went into it as a perfect jurist. The whole thing, you know, prove it to me, prove it to me.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Do you take notes? At the end, no, I don't tell up here, the old iron trap. Sometimes when you see Law and Order, the jurors have, you know, no pass. Law and Order's TV. I'm talking about a real life case now. So the whole time, and of course, I'm the one that gets picked to be the voice of the jurors. No, you were the... Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm the supposed person. Yeah. Well, Madam... Get to stand up. Yeah. Ag guilty. You're going, I looked right at him, too. Did you?
Starting point is 00:04:59 I don't think Jeff was meant to say that. No, I didn't mean to do that. Usually we mean... To say, does it? But that one just slip out. I didn't mean to do that. Do you want me to beep? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes. So we were there all day. We were there all day. And we fought back for it. There was one person that was holding out. And we were there all day long. And finally we worked it out. And we got to go out.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And the judge says, no, we've got to get it done. Let's get it done today. So we were there until the evening. The one of you just cursed him out. All day. And so when we found him guilty, the judge says, well, okay, we got a sentence. and we're going to sentence him tonight. I'm sentenced him tonight.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, wow. So he did sentences right after. Wow. He said, you guys can go. If you know, you guys've been here all day, you can go or you can stay for the sentencing. Oh, I'm staying. We all were like, we're already here, bro. We found them guilty.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I want to see a sentence. So there was all kinds of stuff that wasn't allowed in trial. This guy was, did all kinds of bad stuff. Did you guys find out during sentencing? Yes. That's pretty cool. I mean, it was like, it was like, it was like, really, it stands to reason that had we known this, we would have found him guilty for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:04 this case, whether he was guilty or not. So do you agree that they kept that from you? So I kind of agree that they shouldn't have brought it up. Okay. Because it was prejudicial. It would have been prejudicial. That's good to know that actually when they say we're not going to bring that on trial, actually. If you watch it, you know, if you watch law and order TV law cases, you feel like you want to
Starting point is 00:06:25 know it. That's not right. You know, the jury should know it. But in real life, had we known some of the stuff this guy did in the past, it would It wouldn't have mattered about this case because, well, of course he's guilty. Look at all the stuff he did in the past, right? It wouldn't, of course. So, but really, of course he was guilty because look at all the stuff he did the past.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And that's where he got seven years. This lady, I mean, Damner killed this old man with a brick. Do we know why she hit him? I don't know. Maybe you could ask Laquisha Jones. Okay. You already said it. Why she beat the crap out of this old white man?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Not that that means anything. with a brick on the 4th of July. Just a guess. Okay? All right, so an 81-year-old Trump supporter is assaulted over his MAGA hat. All right, can we stop treating people with a stupid hat on
Starting point is 00:07:37 like their second-class citizens? Why don't you treat people like their first-class citizens no matter what they are? Okay. Works for me. I try to do that anyway. Okay. I'm good with that.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But just because they're a Trump supporter, I think maybe we don't do that. Now, I find that we've seen stories that are true this way, where they hate Trump so much that they fight someone that has a MAGA hat on. But most of the stories, and I say most, because I'm sure there's going to be one show up someday that has the Trump people performing hated acts on the progressives, the liberals, the left. That really isn't true.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It hasn't really happened. It's been made up. Jesse Smollett comes to mind as the latest case of that. And then during the Jesse's Juicy Smoulet, we had the conservative kid at the university get beat up in front of cameras. Yeah. And have we heard about that? No, we have not. Although I believe they've issued a warrant for his arrest, but nobody knows who he is.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But no, exactly. I don't know. But we have video camera. We actually have. We have actually have video of this guy. The evidence that you see, the juicy wanted to have because he was like, hey, that camera is pointed at me. This time we have that evidence. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We don't know who it is. We can't find him. We looked. We looked. We looked around. Look, we stood right here where the video was recorded. We looked around left and right. He wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We didn't see him. Sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Sorry. But I think overall, overall in America, this is really blown out of proportion because most people with being confronted by something like this don't look for a fight. We look to either back away or we look to find a resolution right then. As an example, Chris, he's telling me a story about his barber experience. the other day. Yeah. And I believe that that is proof. When he got done telling me, I thought,
Starting point is 00:09:54 well, that's America. That's America. That's the way we are. And overall. And I believe, Chris was like, yeah, I guess so. Yeah, we literally both agreed. Yeah, that's actually what is happening in the normal world. Right. So the basic story was, I went nine o'clock, get a haircut. I went in there, I was the first one. The lady asked me, do you mind if I keep on the news? I'm like, I don't care. Okay, so we went off to be, we're beginning the barber and the news is out. Now it's at a shop, a styling shop.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yes. That has, most of the places have TVs everywhere now, unless you go to some places that are a little above that, but we'll let that go. And I don't like to visit those places. We'll go ahead now. Okay. So, and she asked me, do you mind if I like to watch the news in the morning?
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm like, yeah, that's fine. Completely fine. Well, one of the stories, one of the packages of the story was president in Vietnam meeting with Kim Jong-un. And then one of the lines from the reporter was like, I hope Donald Trump is smart enough. Of course. Of course. I wonder what network it was.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I wonder what network it was that she was watching that would have an anchor say, I hope Donald Trump is smart enough. Anyway, that's when she was like, he's not smart, right? Looking at you for confirmation. Looking at you for confirmation. And then for a second there, I was like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:11:29 He's not smart, right? I'm like, no, he is smart. And I voted for him. And that's when she goes, well, aren't you Hispanic? And I'm like, yes. I voted for him because I'm Hispanic. I want the wall.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I want him to make a market grade again. This is a disclaimer for chewing the flat political talk. This has actually happened at the barbershop. Not in a real life story on chewing the fat. Back to you, Chris. So I'm like, done. Now, at that time, she had a choice. Continue getting the haircut.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Or she's pissed. Or she's pissed. Right? She's pissed. And we get the story of a hairstylist stabs Hispanic man in Texas with scissors. Radio man, Chris Cruz, found with scissors. poking out of his skull from a hairstylist. Okay, now I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Now I'm nervous. That could have happened, bro. It could have happened. It could have happened. It could have happened. Just a snap of a finger. Yes, it could have happened. A pair of the yellow pronged scissors coming out of the skull, man.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So I felt at the end. But she ended up cutting your hair. She cut my hair. Okay. She ended up cutting your hair. And then it was kind of tense, though, right? It was tense. You could feel a little bit of that.
Starting point is 00:12:41 You cut it with that same scissors that she was about to stab me. I mean, when you go to a hairstylist or a barber, you know the feeling that you have when you're with them. You're comfortable. I mean, you're putting your skull in their hands. Yeah, literally. You feel the trust of whether you, you know, whatever mood you're in and the mood they're in, you kind of feel where you're at. Yeah. So she cut your hair.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Now, when she's done cutting your hair, she says, okay. Okay, we're done. And now, the full haircut at this salon means that you get your hair. washed and they blow dry it and they put a little something something in your hair and they tell you there you go you look great get out yes because their thing is they hey you can come get a haircut with us and get back to work right and i was heading to work so i was like um what about the shampoo you know i have to go to work now okay so now right now she was ready to be done with you yes she did her job yes she did a partial job yes being still being pissed at you because she's a trump hater and you and you're
Starting point is 00:13:42 you've now tipped the scales to being liking Trump. Yes. All right. So she wants to be done with you as soon as possible. Yes. She doesn't stop doing your job. She doesn't stab you in the skull with scissors. She doesn't scream and holler and kick you out of the place.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And she could have. She doesn't say, I'm not going to, you can't, I'm not going to cut your hair. You don't deserve anybody to cut your hair ever the rest of your life. And she could have. None of that. She does her job. But she tries to cut it short because she really wants, she just wants to be rid of you. I've cut your hair.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I've done my job. just we're done. Get out. We're done. Okay. When you confront her with the full, all-on experience, she says, okay. And she finishes.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And she finishes. And she shampoos your hair. She puts her little something in your hair and off you go. And I was not a dick because I tipped her too. There you go. Well, she did her job. And that's one of the things because we all know about the stupid, you know, waiter. Oh, this is me.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah, yeah. Stop it. She did her job. One incident, that wasn't really an incident because, you know, I knew what she was going for. I could have played along, but I didn't play along. Right. Because I wanted to see. Now, as we were talking about it, we realized what set her off.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yes, we did. So Chris was wearing what t-shirt? I was wearing a t-shirt that my wife got for me for Christmas. Beard Lives Matter on the same format, same everything. Black T-shirt, white letters. same blockage of black. Beard Lives Matter. So it looked like white lives matter or black lives matter.
Starting point is 00:15:17 White Lives only are the only ones that matter. Oh, you racist bastard. But okay, so seeing that, you see Beard Lives Matter, but you get the idea that you're okay. That's your way of saying Black Lives Matter without saying Black Lives Matter. So she believes you're on her side. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yes. And she felt comfortable enough to when the anchor says if Trump was smart enough, she's like, oh, wait a minute. He's stupid. I got a black lives matter guy here. He's stupid, right? He's brown and wearing a black lives matter shirt.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I'm wearing a beer lights matter shirt. And that's fine. I'm not trashing on her, but. No, that's just the connection she made. And then when we talked about it afterwards, I was like, you're right. You know, that is actually what happens in a normal day, America, person to person.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Every day. Person to person, face to face. you realize that, yep, I don't like this guy or I like this guy, and we confronted each other in real life business, and we realize that, you know what, we can still do what we're supposed to do and go about our daily lives without beating each other up with bricks, without stabbing each other in the skull with my scissors,
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm going to do my job, and I'm just going to say, hey, thanks, have a nice day. Have a nice day. And that's, I think that's, I think, I hope if more in the media were to push that narrative, we'd get past the Jesse Smollett's of the world. But I don't know that that's going to happen. I really don't know that's what's going to happen. So the moral of this story is good luck. God bless.
Starting point is 00:17:09 So not long ago, my producer Chris Cruz showed me a video from Art and Ashton at Trilogy Media where they, uh, they, uh, We're playing around with an IRS. And I don't want to use a bad word scammer. I'd like to use me. You know, an IRS person pretending to be an IRS person. And really, if you're going to pretend to be something, IRS is not a you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I think it's a good thing because most people hate the IRS and don't want to deal with them. So why don't want to pretend that? Because that's when the scam comes in. Oh, I just used the nasty word. The scammer. that's when you can have people get people scared, right? Because they don't like you, they want to get rid of you.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And so they do everything they can to get you out of their lives. And that's why this scam is so successful. And Art and Ashton pulled off a scam on a scam on their video at Trilogy Media. And they join us here on Chewing the Fat. Hey, guys, how you doing? How's it going? Oh, so good. You're in America, too, right?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Absolutely. God bless America. I'm American too. Even I'm Russian in my heart. Are you an American citizen? Yes. I became American citizen in 2016. There you go. Fantastic. Well, welcome. Welcome to the United States of America. And spit that freaking Russian out of your heart right now. Get rid of it. I want it gone. By the way, I don't think your American dream was to one day, you know, talk to Jeff Fisher on the chewing the fat. That's too big of a dream. I don't think that's an American dream right there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 That's too big of a dream. But it's happening, so congratulations. Thank you so much. But to be honest with you, I used to be a pro athlete. And since I was a kid in Soviet Union, I was dreaming to play in the NBA. I used to be a pro. So that's why definitely I had American dream in my heart. Nice.
Starting point is 00:19:08 When you were playing basketball, were you also dancing then, too? Was that part of your deal? Aren't you, aren't you Mr. Samba? I guess when you're young, you miss her everything. Because, I mean, I know you did a little dancing in the past. And, I mean, you both, you both are so talented. And you're bringing us these videos now. I mean, you've got dancing.
Starting point is 00:19:35 He's got violin. I mean, what more do I need out of life? That's right. That's absolutely right. See, I watch the videos. I know what you're talking about. I'm playing alone. I love her you did your homework.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I'm not there. Thank you. So what's up? What's going on, guys? you'd put the IRS scammer. Tell me a little bit about that scam. What brought that on? Well, this was all kind of brought on from a bit, from, I don't, I'm not sure if you're talking about the original video that happened about two years ago. Yes. Yes. It kind of happened by accident when I was getting all of those IRS scams, those robo calls to my phone
Starting point is 00:20:05 on a multiple daily basis. Like, you know, I was getting dozens of them every day. So I decided one day to answer one and mess with a guy and maybe that would be my way of getting him to stop calling me. And of course, I recorded it. And, you know, by the way, we've, in the past, and I love that we're able to record it and posted. I love that you guys are making good with it because for so long, you know, many, over so many years
Starting point is 00:20:27 people have messed with these people and never recorded anything. They just did it for their own fun and laughs. And now with today's technology and you guys were smart enough to capitalize on it, we're able to see the fun and enjoy it with you. Yeah, technology was on our side definitely that day.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That video, that first one I recorded, I had the guy on the phone for like 45 minutes and he ended up making these crazy terrorist threats. And the video went massively viral. So good. So good. So, did you, when you were, when you thought of it, was it, hey, this could be really good or is just going to be funny? My original intention was just to be funny. Like, my original intention, I was getting so many of the calls. It was so irritating. That's really the only reason I did it was
Starting point is 00:21:11 because I wanted him to stop calling me. So I recorded it and I messed with the guy. I thought I would have him on the phone for maybe three minutes. Right. A couple jokes hang up on me. But I had him on the phone. for almost an hour, and then he got so mad because they hate when you waste their time, because their time is their money. They got so mad that you saw it. He went absolutely crazy, and the video went so viral. We found a way to do this every week, and we do it as partners and wait scammer time
Starting point is 00:21:32 and raise awareness. So it's kind of a double-edged kind of positivity thing. So in today's world now, though, aren't you trying to reach out and stop him from his evil ways of scamming? Ideally, yes. We find that we get like two vastly different kinds of scammers on the phone. And 90% of the time, unfortunately, they're pretty vile. They're pretty unchangeable.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And they just want to insult your mother and hang up the phone. But every now and then, we get a scammer that wants to reform and actually confesses that they are feeling a little guilty. And you can tell. You know, you can just tell them, talk to them. And that's actually led up to some new other videos on our channel where we actually have a reformed scammer that has quit, changed his life. And we did a go fund me to help them kind of restart its own business. So there can be that too. And that's always good when it happens.
Starting point is 00:22:16 But unfortunately, it's rare. Has that paid off? Has that paid off the GoFundMe? I mean, has he taken, you know, psychiatry classes, and he's bettered himself since? Well, to be honest with you, a lot of people, I know it sounds a little bit, maybe inappropriate, but they kind of innocent. It's kids. It's 18, 19, 20, who live in a poor country, who live in the poor villages, no job.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So they go to these, you know, like one-bedroom apartment, 80 people seating in one-bedroom apartment. And, you know, they're making $250 a month, which is a tremendous amount money. Yeah, no kidding. And this guy who asks for help you, like, hey, guys, I'm not a bad guy. I don't like what I do. Please help me to get out from this routine, from these dirty business. And we're like, okay, so if you want to quit, please don't give a notice. Just leave.
Starting point is 00:23:11 We're going to pay for your apartment for 30 days until you're going to find a legit job. And we started GoFundMe, and we raised $5,000. and we move him to his family, and right now he's buying equipment for his own honest business. That's great. It's definitely one of those kinds when, you know. And he's also returned the favor by providing a lot of information. We did a bunch of Skype interviews with him,
Starting point is 00:23:36 and there's a whole playlist on our channel where he's actually telling us details about how the IRS scam actually works, that things that we wouldn't have otherwise known. And we can share that with the public, and it raises awareness on how they can avoid being scammed in the future. Yeah. After 11. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Dr. Lehmon came to our apartment and actually we put him on the sky. And, you know, they cover his identity and same stuff. You know, he rebuild a lot of shady, how this shady organization was. Yeah, I love the idea that, really, I mean, we joked about it at the beginning. But really, the IRS guy is the guy that's the perfect guy to come and scam you because nobody wants to deal with him. So they just want to get rid of him. Yeah, and they're really good at instilling fear. They have a very short script.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They use almost every time when they call you. And they target, you know, elderly people. They target people that might not otherwise know that the IRS will never call you. You know, so they're really good at making you scared and establishing urgency. And then they make you act out of emotion, which is. Wait. So they want to. Wait.
Starting point is 00:24:38 The IRS never calls you? The IRS will never call you. Yeah. Only email. They come when you get by. Well, snail mail, rather. Yeah. They send you documents.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And you can call them. but they will never leave a voicemail on your phone saying you're out in debt and never and that's why no one scam age range it's elderly people because you know they're so innocent and it's easy to them it's easy to put pressure on them and they just wipe they you know like uh bank account saving account that's why it's our job as the two robin hood just uh stand up with the community and just go fight the bad guys and you know make it happen make it happen exactly now i I missed the video where you guys were dressed up as Robin Hood. Did I miss that?
Starting point is 00:25:24 I don't get to come. I like it. Which one? I mean, I think I can guess which one is going to be Little John. Which one's going to be what? Little John. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:38 See? You got it. All right. So what's next? What's next? Are we going to continue down the path of reforming scammers and helping people because I do love the idea. It really is a really great idea to be funny with them at the time,
Starting point is 00:25:55 but it's also a tremendous outlook for the future to help the scammers and help people realize how not to be scammed. So what's next on the plan from Trilogy Media? Well, thank you for asking. It's a really good question. Well, actually, we can start from this. Ashton and me, we came to Hollywood from different countries, different cities, as a filmmaker.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So we opened Trilogy Media, It used to be, it's still a production. It started as a production company, and then these 250 million views video came on, you know, by accident. So what we're planning to do, we wrote a movie. It's kind of like Wolf of Wall Street, but it's about IRS, about scams. So we're planning, you know, like to make a movie, make a TV show, make a reality show something to show, go in public,
Starting point is 00:26:44 show people how it works on a big level, on a big station, in filming industry. And also, we would like to go to veteran houses and speak up and tell people and educate people how not to fail for any kind of scam. Microsoft, tech support, IRS, any kind of scams. That's fantastic. So Ashton and Art, Trilogy Media.com.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And we can, if we subscribe to your YouTube channel and, you know, log into the website. We'll get an idea of when your films and TV shows are going to launch. we can help out. You know, if you're looking for, you know, anybody to any roles or anything, you know, I'm here for you.
Starting point is 00:27:22 If you need a, you know, if you need an old fat guy, you know, I'm here for you. So. I like it. Well, let me make a small correction. The website's actually
Starting point is 00:27:30 Trilogy Media Inc. com just for anyone that's just for anyone that's... Oh, see. We do post all of our videos to or the YouTube channel. That's kind of the home base right now. So it is YouTube.com slash trilogy media. You'll find our channel there. We got like over 150 videos on there.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But I'm going. Okay. I got you. Okay. I got you. Okay. sorry, all right? It's trilogymedia inc.com. I got it. Okay, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Man, don't send the scammers after me, okay? We don't have to send the scammers. The Russian is coming after you. Thanks, guys. That's more scary than scammers. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thanks for having us. Thank you for giving us.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Have a good day. Bye, bye. Speaking of scammers, did you see where Fox is now going to have to pay the people of bones, the TV show Bones. I don't know if you ever watch Bones. I was forced to watch it with my wife. I've watched it from the very beginning, and I sadly watched it to the end. But I really kind of gave up on it the last season or so.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But in the beginning, it was great. The first few seasons were, you know, it was a great TV show. But they just sued Fox. They made, the courts awarded them $179 million. The ruling, lying, cheating, and reprehensible studio fraud. Wow. Now, David Brands, who's, I mean, he's the big time pretty boy star.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He's already in another, he's got another series that's been running for two or three seasons already again. Is that the military one? Yeah. I mean, he's, you know, he's a big time pretty boy star. He's good. Emily D. Chanel, everybody kind of likes her, but she's questionable. He's a weird. He's a weird.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like her sister. But, uh, executive's Peter Rice. Almond and Gary Newman could alter the economics of hit shows in the streaming era. So what they're doing, fascinating. And I started to read the story. And of course, they're going to, you know, they're going to fight it. Fox and Rupert Murdoch and 21st Century and Disney. You know, they're all, you know, they're all going to fight it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 But they'll end up paying them big money. Because as I'm reading, as I'm going down here, looking at the profit-sharing story, and it's about 18,000 pages of the bone story. I just want to know what. I just want to know what's going on. I don't want to go on. If I read the whole inside of it, we'll be here until the end of time.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So I did find a Twitter version to read to you. All right? So the arbitrator just ruled that the stars and producers had been defrauded of 21st Century Fox and awarded them $189 million, 179 million. A bunch of self-dealing by 21st Century Fox. Because the company owned the production studio, as well as the network and the streaming service the show had aired on,
Starting point is 00:30:36 it allegedly offered itself below market licensing fees. And so the show's talent accused them of cheating them out of tens of millions of dollars. Yes. Now, they, of course, we're not going to allow this flagrant injustice. We're going to challenge the ruling in a court of law. Well, good luck with that. The court of law may end up costing you a lot more than $179 freaking million. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Now, it's the second largest award in TV industry history. And I was, I didn't have time to look up who the most was. I don't care. You can look it up yourself. That's the importance of this podcast. It's a Friday. It's a fat pile Friday. Eh, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:31:20 But my point is, is that, what they're doing. And they're good luck. Good luck winning this in a court of law. Because they all signed these big deals and they get the profit sharing deal. And then they end up saying, oh, man. Yeah, you know what? Here's 10 bucks.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Sorry, we got the syndication deals. They're signing all these deals where the money is still there in the pile. Rupert Murdoch is still deep pocketed in the cash. Okay? But they're selling like Chris and I are working together. And he said like Chris is selling chewing the fat to the blaze for under market value so that there's no big profits and I'm making dirt. But the Blaze and Chris are deep pocketed in that extra cash that's coming in.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, maybe. I'm suing. And I'm going to get a whole 17.9 cents more for what this podcast is worth. I'll tell you that right now. It was fascinating. That case is going to go on because there's also other cases. I know Walking Dead is in the middle of a lawsuit. There's plenty of other shows doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Give me another one. What's that? Give me another show. I can't remember. So bones, walk in there. Give me another one. Like I said, it was Fat Pile Friday. I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Please hold while Jeffrey tries to find a show that is being sued for something. He is almost there. Finding the information. I put him on the spot. Looks like he cannot find the information now. That's what you get here. First of all, I had it. All right, I had this pisses me off because I had it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And for some reason, it got blown out in an email that I sent to myself that didn't save the stuff. So now I'm busy telling you a story that I probably shouldn't have told you because I didn't have all the information. So I'm just telling you that you just know that the bone story is real. Just read the bone story. Doesn't the bone story have papers? I already told you the bone story, okay? And then you put me on the spot because I already said I didn't care.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And this is what you call buying time. You already said I didn't care. But there's other shows. I know that Walking Dead is one of the shows that's fighting for me. What's that? You would have mentioned Walking Dead. Just one more.
Starting point is 00:33:54 All I was with one more. Well, if you remember correctly, this story, this show, which is not in the story, the Rockford Files, what's his face? that played Rockford. You know, the actor that played Rockford Files, Jim Rockford, James Gardner.
Starting point is 00:34:13 See, I remember it. You remembered, yeah. Gardner sued for the same thing. This was years ago. This was before even the streaming service deals that they worked out. There's always one or two books, maybe three or four books. What happened to him was the old way of doing things where they would, like every show, he would crash a car, right?
Starting point is 00:34:33 So he had deals to make that he was getting money on the back end of the show for profits. So the main books that they kept, every time he put a debt in his car, they charged him for a new car. Okay, so anytime they had to fix the car from being crashed on the show, they charged him for a new car. But the real books only charged for what needed to be fixed, what actually needed to be fixed. So that money was all just in the pocket money. Every car was a new car. So he never made any money until he took him to court. And he said, no.
Starting point is 00:35:07 We need to take a look at the second and third books. And they did. So there's a second show for you. There you go. It's not the story, but. I'll take it because I didn't specify enough. I said give me another show. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:22 But I'll take it. Thank you. I wish I could remember some of the other shows. Oh, man, have a good weekend. I'm so sick of it. Wait, you're done? Yeah, this is it. No, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You can't do that. What do you mean? You need more time. No, we're done. We're not then. Okay, you're done. Subscribe by review. Yeah, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's enough. I've had enough. Okay? Look, you're not doing anything this weekend. So rate and review the show for me. Of course, you've already subscribed. I know that. You've gone to wherever you get your podcast, iTunes, you know, wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:14 All the other places. I need one more. I need one more. I need one more. I got iTunes. Okay. iTunes? Yeah, all the places, there's plenty of places.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Wherever they sell free podcasts. Yeah, I just need one more. Just one more. You said it yesterday. You said them all yesterday. You had a whole list in front of you of all the podcasts. So I just need one more. iTunes and.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Wherever you get free podcasts are sold like iTunes. Uh-huh. And? It's Google Play Music, Stitcher, SoundCloud, Spotify, podcast world, podcast junkie, I don't know, the last two,
Starting point is 00:36:51 the last two probably aren't real. If there aren't, we just made them. You don't that idea right there. Podcast junkie. So you, and actually, you're welcome.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So you've already subscribed. All right, but you need to rate and review it just so other people, it's better. So people look on, and people look on and they say,
Starting point is 00:37:08 oh, look at other people are listening. And, you know, we need your help. So do that. You rate it, 20 stars. You review it best podcast ever. You're done.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Well, then you can share. Okay, so you're not done. Just one more little step. You share. And you share it with, I don't care who you share it with, but you share it with like one person a week. If you were to share it with one person a week, when you think of it, just go, oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:31 I got to share you with the fat. So you share and you bring up the email and you type A. And the first name that comes up on that list, send it. It's thinking of you. And then like the second time you'd do it, you go, oh, I got to share. chewing the fat. So you put it in an email
Starting point is 00:37:46 and you type B and the first name that pops up in the drop down you sent it to say thinking to you. And by the way, I think it was last week we received an email, me and you receive an email
Starting point is 00:37:57 of someone sharing the podcast with me and you. We don't count. We already subscribe to the podcast. I know you try to be funny. Yeah. It was funny and we laughed a lot. We laughed, but that doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Now just that listen you have to share five times a day. Everybody else can listen one time. You know, you share one time. You, because you try to be all funny and says, thinking of you, fat man, and Chris, five times. Now you have to share five times. Chris Cruz laying down the hammer.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I am. I have to. He must have to be the arbitrator for bones. Laying down the law, man. Don't be trying to steal money from bones. Don't do it. $179 million. Or you share chewing the fat five,
Starting point is 00:38:44 times a day? Yeah. Have a nice weekend. Share.

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