Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep. 44 | How To Prepare for Thanksgiving | Guest: Burgess Owens

Episode Date: November 21, 2018

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You're listening to Chewing the Fat on demand. All right, welcome to it. This is Chewing the Fat with yours truly, Jeff Fisher. You know, I'm going to have to create my own. This is Chewing the Fat. Chewing the Fat. Nah, I don't like that. Welcome to the show.

How you doing? It's Wednesday. It's the day before Thanksgiving. I've been doing nothing but pre-eating to get myself prepared for Thanksgiving. But just a warning. You know, last week we told you that Geno, Turkey, was recalling some of their ground-up turkey. Well, now the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is warning people across the U.S. not to eat romaine lettuce.

It has an outbreak of E. coli again. And you're thinking to yourself, we just had that, right? Yeah, we sure did. 32 people in 11 states have been affected with E. coli this round so far. Okay? They're telling people to throw away any romaine lettuce that they already have in their homes. And remember the one earlier this year, that's the one you're thinking of. That only killed five people.

Don't worry about that. All right, but right now, we don't have any deaths from this breakout, but 32 people have been affected across the country in 11 states. We've got to do something about maybe we provide better restroom facilities for the people in the lettuce fields. Just a thought because that seems to be a problem that we're struggling with. Doesn't it? Yes.

Yes, it does. Now, of course, it's before Thanksgiving. So we have to talk a little bit about, you know, know what people think are the best side dishes across the country and regions. And I saw this one survey that I saw Chris Cruz, the producer, I guess that's his title for Chewing the Fat, tweet it out. And it shows the side dishes of America's regions. Okay.

Now, 931 people responded. So I'm not sure, you know, how much we. put our stock in it for 538. But it breaks the country down. Now, in the northeast, the common side dish is squash. I mean, we used to have that. I mean, I grew up in Michigan as a kid, and squash was on the table. They say in Michigan, and whether you consider Michigan the northwest or the north,

you know, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Chicago, Wisconsin, the side dish, rolls and biscuits. Well, duh. You always have rolls and biscuits on Thanksgiving. But then you start moving a little bit farther west, north-central Midwest America, the Dakotas, you get into green beans casserole.

I mean, a green bean casserole, everybody has green bean casserole, don't they? I mean, this is when the ground-up fried onion mix makes their fortune. And then you get out west, all right, and almost west from Texas and the Dakotas all the way to the west is salad. Oh, first of all, yes, there are many of Thanksgiving dinners and tables that have salad on it. But that's not a side dish. Sorry, especially now, because it's made with romaine lettuce, throw it out. no thank you.

I don't want any of your Thanksgiving e. coli. You get down into Texas, and are you looking at Texas, Oklahoma, what is that, Louisiana, Arkansas, cornbread. Yeah, I used to have a little bit of cornbread when I was living in Florida. Well, you know, down south in Florida, we had cornbread in,

but there were still rolls and biscuits. Then you get over here to the south and the southeast. And it's a big chunk of the country that says the main side dish is mac and cheese. On Thanksgiving? I don't recall ever having macaroni and cheese on Thanksgiving. Now, my wife makes several different versions of homemade macaroni and cheese,

which is tremendous. There's an old spouse of mine named Kraft that makes a pretty good mac and cheese. They have the best fresh powdered cheese. in America. That is real cheese, right? I mean, it's made with real cheese. No, it is. I think it says so right on the box.

And you can get the Valvita and cheese. You can get the Kraft dinner mac and cheese, which is a little bit different of the four cheeses. So there's several different brands. When I was broke, and I mean broke, I was living on Madera Beach, Florida,

had zero money. I was living in this one-bedroom hole across from the public access beach. So I'd open up my door, I had the view of the beach in the ocean. That was what I was paying for in my apartment. I lived on shells and cheddar and mac and cheese, Win Dixie brand, thrifty made shells and cheddar. I lived on those.

That's all I could afford, man. Once in a while I'd break down and say, well, I'm going to have a can of soup. but you had to have that box of shells and cheddar. Now the powdered mix that comes with the thrifty made shells and cheddar, that might not be real cheese. But the cheese that comes in the craft, that's real. But I'm looking at this, and aside from the salad, and everybody has a little bit of some kind of salad on their Thanksgiving,

but green bean casserole, rolls and biscuits, squash, cornbread, mac and cheese. Maybe that's why I'm a little overweight, but all of these items were on our table. Possible that led to the reasoning of, Jeff, maybe on a, you know, cut down a little bit. But then I see another little layout of what the favorite Thanksgiving pie is on the table, you know, across the country, breaking up into regions. And it looks like South is key lime.

All right. Now, that's a Florida thing. Kielan pie is a Florida thing. I think that's even the state pie. But it doesn't mean that it's good. Everybody rants and raves about it because it's key lime pie and you're supposed to like it. But that doesn't mean you're supposed to like it. You eat a piece of a little sliver and you go, oh, that's great.

It's key lime pie. It's no wonderful. Yeah, let me have that apple pie over there. Then you move up to a big chunk of the middle, coconut cream. Oh, you know, okay. I like coconut cream. Pecan pie in the northeast. Then you start looking at the center swath of the country up into the Dakotas

and across a little bit of the central part of the country, Blackberry pie, which is okay. I mean, I'd rather have blueberry. And then you get out west, up north, and then the west, and then swing back underneath Blackberry back into Texas. you get sweet potato pie. I mean, okay. But really, they don't have strawberry rhubarb,

which is always, I would tell you, you know not what you speak. When Chris Cruz has told me a strawberry rhubarb pie is not a pie. That's why it's called a strawberry rhubarb pie. Oh, it's a pie. But there's no, there's no, no apple. Where's the apple pie? Apple pie, that's a pumpkin? That's America.

Pumpkin pie? This was made just to make people fight. That's all this thing did. They just broke it. They didn't even try. They just don't put pumpkin and don't put apple and people will be pissed. Last time I checked, apple pie is America. You live it at the window and everybody from the neighborhood smells it.

Ooh, Ms. Marr just made some apple pie for the whole neighborhood. Yeah, that was in cartoons. That doesn't happen in real life. Are you sure? Yeah, that doesn't happen in real life. In the cartoons, you see the smell of the apple. pie in the air and then people come. Yeah, it doesn't work that way. But everybody has an apple pie. Everybody has a pumpkin pie. And I mean, some places might buy a pumpkin pie, say like when you're

shopping on Sunday or Monday. And then you realize by Tuesday that it's gone. So you may have to go purchase another one. I don't say my house was one of those because you realize, well, I haven't had pumpkin pie in a long time. And it looked really good. And it was, you know, delicious. But now I don't want it anymore, but it got to have a pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving. But I remember strawberry, strawberry rhubarb pie. And I never, I mean, rhubarb is kind of like a celery bush plant that grows on the side of garage is all across the door.

You don't really want to eat it on your own, but you put it in a pie. It's fine. Blueberry pies, though, good. But apple pies, I mean, apples are the only fruit that's grown in every state in America. Every state of the United States grows apples. That's what makes apples American. So you have to have an apple pie. It doesn't matter.

No, there are different, obviously there are different apples. You have different little, different tart levels of apples for your pies. But, I mean, a warm apple pie with apples that are cooked, not crispy, cooked. with a plate or a scoop of ice cream on top of it. I mean, how more American is that? Do you put caramel on top? Some people put caramel. Some people put cheese.

I'm not big on the cheese. I love cheese, but not an apple pie. But caramel, oh, yeah. I love caramel on anything. You put caramel on top of turkey and whatever. I don't care. We made caramel turkey this year. Okay.

That's fine. And speaking of new ways to make turkey, of course, Cheetos wants to get in another game. They've got the hot Cheetos turkey who's going to spice up Thanksgiving. So now you can take the hot turkey in an oven bag, which actually those oven bags cook a turkey pretty good. Don't tell my wife that. She'll say, nothing's out. You know, stuff it in the bag. Okay, I got it.

But I've been to places that have cooked turkeys in an oven bag. They're pretty good. They're not as good as mine. I know, baby. I know they're not as good as yours. Yes, they are. But you take the hot Cheetos and you crunch them up and you put some butter and some oil on it

and you rub it all over the top of the turkey, just like you would, just like you do butter, you know, with the turkey now. You know, you just rub it all over the turkey and then you put it in the bag and then you have that hot Cheeto crunch on the turkey. But doesn't sound that bad, actually. Just like Lyndon.

It might be good. He was trying to play Trump, right? Like Glenn did? If you're referring to the Glenn Beck radio program that Pat, Stu, myself, and Glenn did with Cheetos on her face. Yes, that's correct. Glenn was the only one that took the heat for it, though. Hot Cheetos face heat. There's a little bit of jokes.

So anyway, there's other ways they can also tell you, you know, they have different other spicy coatings you could put on your turkey. Look, you cook it any way you want. Just don't, you know, you want to get it in there. I remember something has happened. Something has happened to the cooking of turkeys. I don't know what it is. But when I was a kid, it used to take like 18 days to cook a turkey. Okay, so they put the turkey in the oven and you had to wait like 18 days for it to be done.

My wife puts it in the oven. You know, my mom used to have to get up in the morning and we'd make giant bowls of stuffing. dressing or whatever you want to call it that you shove in the turkey. And so you had extra because you got to have extra stuffing. And I remember when I remember when we first moved into one house we had two ovens.

We were like kings. I love that stove too because it had the oven on the bottom and the oven on the top and the range pulled out. So when it was closed it only showed two areas

to cook on, but you can pull it out. And you've got four right. This was such a cool oven. But we were like kings. So you had two. Because you used to have to make, we had to put the turkey in forever. Yeah, I remember my dad put it in the night before.

Yes. And now, my wife gets up now and puts it in and it's done. Impossible. How's that happen? Something has happened. They're juicing the turkeys. Oh, yeah.

Something has happened. Because I seriously, I remember having to wait forever. We have to put the turkey in the 4 o'clock in the morning. We couldn't eat until 4 in the afternoon. We had everything else done. Now my wife gets up, throws in the oven. It'll be ready at noon.

What? It's just something that's going. There should be an investigation on what's happening in the turkey world. I'll tell you that. And, of course, it's Black Friday. All right. Coming up. And I'm not a.

I'm not a big huge Black Friday kind of guy that we're going to get up early and go shopping all day. But I do remember, you know, back in the day, we'd all get together for Thanksgiving, you have the big family Thanksgiving, and I mean, you know, the whole kit and caboodal of family. And then they'd all, you know, we'd all pack up and you'd clean up and do the leftover and leave.

But the next morning, my grandpa and grandpa and my aunt and my cousins would all come to the house. If I've got my mom and it's, you know, it's daybreak again. I mean, the sun is maybe just breaking the plane. Black Friday shopping. And they wouldn't come back until the evening with a car full of bag full of clothes and goods, presents and everything. You know what I say to that?

Amazon.com. It doesn't need to be Cyber Monday. It needs to be cyber any day. Amazon.com. I mean, it's embarrassing. I pulled in my neighborhood yesterday. All right. And there's a postal service truck delivered mail.

One street. One street. I turn the corner. Chum. I'm in my neighborhood. Mail truck. Delivered mail. Directly opposite of the postal service Jeep that's about, I don't know, made in 1810,

barely chugging along on the road. Is the Amazon van Mercedes-Benz with the Amazon logo on it? I mean, if I'm a postal worker, I'm like, come on. Give me a break. I might actually just slam into it. Oops. Sorry. Didn't mean to do that.

But there's plenty of places you can shop online, of course. You know what I mean? Wallet Hub did a big survey for looking for the biggest Black Friday discounts. They examined 7,000 Black Friday deals. All right. At 35 popular retailers. The top places for deep discounts are Belk, J.C. Penny. Stage and coals, all of which offer average discounts of 60 to 70%.

It's not bad. Shoppers searching for apparel and accessories this Black Friday or in their luck retail items like sweaters, slack, shoes, get the biggest discounts. And some of the best places to shop for clothes, Myers, Meyer 50 acres up north, they're almost like the Walmart of the north. average discounts of 64%

J.C. Penny, 63%. Belk, 62%. So that's quite a bit. I mean, that's a good savings. Now, this was surprising. The survey recommended Lenovo and J.C. Penny for computers and phones. That makes me nervous because my wife is a big fan

of the Lenovo computers. Makes me a little nervous. Oh, look what I found on sale. See, there's a trick between, like, if somebody were to come to you and say, hey, I've got this Lamborghini for 50% off, that still makes it a $100,000 car. I know that it's a good deal and it's 50% off, but it's still $100,000 car. So the average discounts at Walmart and Target were lower than many others, 30 to 35%.

Discounts not as low as other popular retailers like Big Lots, Sam's Club, Ace Hard. where discounts hovered around 20%. You got to be careful at Sam's Club. I have a member of Sam's Club, and I like Sam's Club. But, you know, they're in business to make money, just like other places. And where they get you is there's an opportunity to say, you know, over here you've just saved a bunch of money. But this product over here that we really want you to buy, you're not saving a thing. In fact, we're going to go ahead and charge you more.

But the one thing I do love about today's world is, the apps. You order, drive in, they have it ready for you, throw in the back of your car, you're gone. You don't have to go in the store. Now, I like the experience of going in the store

and talking to the employees and seeing other people. I personally like that. I don't mind that at all. But it is a nice convenient to not have to worry about it. One of the problems, though, that I'm finding with these box stores

and their pickup, plan, you get their app and you order and you pick up. They say, you know, possible same-day delivery or same-day pickup, all that stuff. Yeah, it's the same-day pickup. If you ordered three-day, you know, if so many people are using it now that they're backed up. So if I were to say order from Sam's as an example, let's say a Friday afternoon and I want to pick it up Saturday morning, there's not a chance I can pick that up Saturday morning. they will have that ready for you by 7.30 p.m. tomorrow night. Now why don't you just hire somebody else and load up the stores.

Be nice, okay? Just hire somebody else. Because when you go shopping into Sam's Club now, many of the people you see wandering around picking up items are the people working for Sam's picking up the goods for the people that have ordered online. I love it. I love it. And there are plenty of gifts you can get people for under $100. I know, look, it's that time of year, right? So you want to, you want to, you want to get, you have to buy gifts for people that you don't really want to buy gifts for. I mean, you want to buy gifts for them, but you don't want to spend a lot of money on them.

And so let's say you got to spend, you know, under $100. That's your budget, under $100. So they've got, I look at this list here of things that you can purchase for under $100 for people. and I wasn't looking at this because of you, Chris. I was just looking at this for, you know, for listeners, podcast, please. Don't look at me like,

under 100 bucks. I'm going to something more than 100 bucks. Pour over coffee maker. One of the things that I like to do when you give a gift, though, even if it's under 100 bucks, you want to give something that you hope that people are going to use, right? You don't just go and get them a gift and say, oh, here's a gift for a hundred hundred bucks.

Merry Christmas, and we don't care. if it goes on the shelf or whatever. Do you have a pour-over coffee maker? Do you know what that is? You get the little container and you put the filter in and you pour the hot water over the ground and it drops into the little vase

and you've got your little coffee and it's all good and good as a single-handed thing. You know, we have one. We've never used it. You know why? Because we have an American coffee maker that makes multiple cups

in one thing. and I say an American coffee maker made in China. So I don't know. I don't see what the cute little thing is for the pour over coffee maker. But if you like it, go ahead. You give cooking classes, work bags. You know, those are easy gifts, right? One of the things that was on this list that I thought that's a good gift is a cheeseboard.

Not only do you get cheese, but you get the big marble or pretty wooden cutting board with it. People are going to use that forever. something that you're going to use. Now, I can give you, this has nothing to do with, you can get chocolate, jackets, wallets, all that kind of leatherwork stuff that, you know, is nice and people will use, whatever that, whatever it is, because people like that kind of stuff.

One of the things that I do, though, as a gift, if you don't know what to get someone, and I'm going to tell you this, and I shouldn't tell you this because this is a special gift that I give, and nobody usually gives this as a gift. So I'm going to tell you this, but I don't want you to give it. I just want you to think about it because this is a gift that I want to give.

When you don't know what to get someone, even as a housewarming present, or they've just moved into a new place, they've just got a, they've just sold their house with real estate agents I trust.com. They've just bought a new house with real estate agents I trust.com. They're celebrating. They're bringing you over. They want to have a little party.

It's a quasi- Thanksgiving, Christmas, housewarming party. So everybody gets a gift, and you're having fun. You're having a good time. You know what the gift is? A plunger. You give them a nice, encompassed, all-in-one-case plunger. Yeah. And you know what happens?

They use it for years. Now, they may not think of you every time they use that plunger, but I'm sure that the people that I give it to think of me every time they use the plunger. Hey, happy Thanksgiving. So the other day, I'm out here at Mercury Studios. They're just wandering around, and I see Burgess Owens wandering around the building.

And I said, hey, Burgess, good to see you. What are you doing here? Oh, I was just, you know, I dropped off my daughter. I'm driving across the country on my own. I got nothing to do. I thought I'd stop in and see if anything's going on here. I mean, he's Burgess Owens. So I said, well, yeah, we want to talk to you.

Hello? I mean, you've got nothing else to do. I've got nothing else to do. Let's sit out and chat a little while. Burgess Owens Talks.com. That's the site you need to visit. But on top of that, you need to be fortunate, as I am, to have Burgess Owens sitting next to you.

And since you're not that fortunate, I thought I would let him join you anyway. Burgess, good to see you. Same here. Looking forward to it. Thank you so much for coming on today. I really appreciate it. My pleasure.

Your latest book, Why I Stand, from Freedom to the Killing Fields of Socialism. Man, that sounds, what is it, like 80 chapters, nonstop. It's your brand new book. It's been out for a couple of months. Yes. And why I stand. Okay. Why do you stand?

Well, it's interesting because it's very topical. Obviously, we've been going through these last three years with the NFL has allowed their players to demean our flag. Boy, no kidding. Yeah. And we can talk about that as we get through this. There's a reason for that. But the most important thing is that we have as a country a great history.

We have a great past together as Americans. And the things we've overcome together is remarkable if we ever knew about it. So if we understood what our past was about when things were tough, we can really have a much stronger vision of what our future can be because things, opportunities are everywhere. So why I stand is actually in the book, the book cover you see a young man who's kneeling and behind him there's a flag on the left side

and there's Abraham Lincoln on the right. It's all to say that as we stand for our country, stand for our culture, stand for who we are as a people. The fact we're sitting here together talking the way we are right now, this is what America is all about. That will teach our kids to, first of all, young men to know who they are, to kneel and pray, and when they get up, to go to work. That's what American Way is all about.

So it's not kneeling in protest, it's kneeling and praise for God and heaven in a great country. They've been blessed to be raised in, to make the difference that we can all make just by making a strong stand for those good issues. Well, when you see the turmoil around the world, and now it's starting to infiltrate here into the U.S., it seems like the world is gradually coming into the U.S. when it used to be we were going the other direction. You're more optimistic than I on the future? Yeah.

Because really, if we come together here in the U.S., that should lead us into a brighter future. It does. And I'll tell you why I'm optimistic. I was there fortunate as I was growing up to just to kind of get taught in history. I mean, I was really brought into that in a big way. And I know that this country has been put here for a purpose.

we've been blessed to have being in a place that's those hidden for eons to have on two sides east and west we have great oceans in north and south three countries and God has put this country in place in our people, we the people together, to make a difference. I think that our country has embraced that. The Judeo-Christian values is why the greatest country

in the history of mankind and I don't think he's done with us. I think we have so many good people here that are trying to do the right things, the right thing's right way. Yes, we get frustrated because we can't quite understand why people can think the way they do and not be really, I guess, appreciative of who we are. But that's all comes down to education. One thing that Karl Marx said back in 1800s,

the first battleground is the rewriting of history. If socialist, Marx, and atheist, Marx, and atheist, is still our history, that's when we lose. So we just get our history back, and I think we can all be optimistic of what we can accomplish. Well, that's a battle that we've been losing for quite a number of years, and we've let it a little at a time get farther and farther away.

from us right I mean we've got oh it's just that don't worry about it boy have you just hit it on the head what happened is that most of us out building producing taking care of our kids watch them grow and proud of it with it becoming we're so focused on producing that we forget the left isn't that way no they're not focus on on infiltrating stealth and and undermining everything they can get so they go through the soft belly they go to the the academia where they can get they can get jobs and can't get fired to go to bureaucracies where they can get a job and not get

get fired. They go to entertainment where they can make money and not get fired. So at the end of the day, they have always been very focused for over a century of undermining our country to take away those foundations of God, family, and country. And now we're just finally seeing it. And rewriting of that history. Exactly. So we're now seeing it. And thank goodness we have a president who is standing against. He's drawn a red line. The first one would say, we will stand for our flag. And I don't care who you are. If you're an NFL player, you're not all that. At least stand for our flag and be a If you don't, then we're going to say we don't like it. And American people have joined them in that.

And that's why they have tried to quiet it down a little bit. And I hope that's true. I feel like they've kind of, we can, we'll veer into the NFL that. I'm good with that. I'm happy to talk NFL with you. You know, the, it appears that they have quieted down a little, although, you know, they've done, they really haven't done anything other than just say, you know, well, we're going to try this, and we're going to try that.

You know, the networks have said, well, we won't air this, and we won't air that. But they didn't air that much of it anyway. No, what they have done, and what I would appreciate from the NFL is an apology. The leftists do, they make a mess and they move on, and they leave a mess behind them. What I like for the NFL is the apology

for three years of dividing our country, of acting like leftists. And then atoning by making sure we see our flagger of chance we get a chance. And make sure those young men stand because that's the environment they're sitting and they're working for a company that should say stand for our flag, respect our culture, or we will fire you. Well, and that was the way, I mean, we've argued that point here on this network and on this show

for a number of times, you know, over the years, simply for what happened to, I agree to work for you. And now you expect something from me. If I don't like that, then I don't like that. then I can go work someplace else. I'm not supposed to be able to say tough. You can't get rid of me. I don't understand that.

And I understand, I get the fight of, you know, we all have rights, but not when you're, I mean, you've already given away. You're working for someone. Well, here's the deal. You have globalists. The NFL is a group of globalists. The reason why they put up with this mess is because they have 68 countries that they have a niche into, China, France, Russia, not Russia, but Mexico.

They don't mind demeaning the American brand because it's attractive to Chinese people. It's attractive for France. And they want to get there. So I understand that NBA understands they have no place else to go in the United States. So they made sure those, there's more, there's 90% of the NBA is black Americans. There's less, the 70% of the black Americans in the NFL. So you would think that the NBA will be leading this charge of kneeling, but they don't because they made it very clear to their players.

You stand, you respect your customers, you respect our culture, or we will fire you, you'll find you so that you will understand that. So you don't see any of those guys in the NBA kneeling. If the NFL had done the same thing. We do get a lot of questionable remarks from coaches and players from that, though. Questionable is different than kneeling when the flag is flying. I mean, they're for it. They're obviously for it.

They're for it, but just what, they didn't do it because they know these consequences. And the difference is this. that when we see young people that are successful, they're looked at as heroes, and the disresistricting our flag, guess what, it's a message to our kids. Sure is.

The message to our kids should always be, this is a place of opportunity, be thankful who we are, and let's move on and make great things happen. That is, every generation of American has done that. That has been their responsibility to the next generation. We're the first,

is allowing these people to demean the dreams of our kids coming up. So they're less hopeless, more angry, more racist, because they think there's a country, because the heroes have told them that, that even though you've made millions of dollars, this is a country that is going to stop me from being successful. Yeah. So that's where you're a superstar, and you're still a slave.

You're still seeing yourself as a slave. And believe it or people seeing that. But here's something that's interesting. You have the commissioner, just signed a new contract for $40 million per year. That's a good gig. That's a good gig. Only 10% of that is guaranteed. So the rest of that has to go,

how is you going to get the rest of that incentive? when his marketplace went from 13 billion, three years ago, and it's going down south. He has to go internationally. He has to go to London, have a Super Bowl game there. He has to go to China.

They have, as a matter of fact, put up in Nike. They connect with Nike. So Nike now, the face of Nike is Kaepernick. It's a Marxist. Well, China loves that. They love the fact that the Marxist

is the face of NFL. So they're going to accept NFL, and that's where they'll make more of their money. That's where they see it. So we have to understand that the fight is not done. They understand they were not winning the way they were going. So they decided to pull back.

Back up here in the States. Understand Marxists and Marxists will always be Marxist. So those folks who've done that to our country, have to mean our flag and made it tougher for this community to succeed. They have not changed their ways. We have to understand who they are. Well, and they haven't, right? I mean, we've talked about how they've, it's a gradual thing the last 100 years, right?

They've just infiltrated a little at a time, little at a time. A little out of time, and we let it happen because we said, oh, it's just that. Don't worry about it's fine, just that. I got to go to work. There we go. Let me just share real quick. I think we might have talked to this last time we got together,

but NWACP started up in 1910, National Association for the Advancement of Color People. Right. Okay. I want your audience to know that NWAC was not started by color people. It was started by 21 white socialists, Marxist, race-controlled Democrats. Amazing.

And they put a black face in front, as a facade, which is what liberals do, because they were from behind the curtains trying to get into my community. It worked. My community, it worked very well. My community in early 1900s, keep this in mind. 1905, Tuskegee University,

started by Bougarkey Washington, Alabama, was producing more self-made millionaires in Harvard, Yale, and Princeton combined. In 1905, in 1905, 16 countries came to Tuskegee learned about the agriculture because they were breaking through with pioneer stuff. The first female self-made

made me and there in this country was a black woman in 1915. So this was what happened. I remember that story. Fascinating. This was what was happening. No one knows it because they're taking away our history. Our race was the strongest, most progressive moving forward in a progressive in a positive way. Moving forward race and they undermined by taking away our family. It took away.

They took away. Those things that make a difference. And here we have now on the very bottom of the totem pole with every bit of misery because leftists have done that to us. They're trying to do the same thing for our country. And we just had need to fight back against that. Well, this is where I lose my, you've got me feeling optimistic again. Okay. Because that battle is never ending when you feel like you're making a difference and you say, okay, well, the president now has drawn a line.

Well, we've just got off of, well, we've got two or three years of President Trump. But the last eight years, most definitely with President Obama, while it helped a lot of, of people, many of us, learn our history better, because he would say things like, that can't be true. And it's half true. Yeah. There were facts in there that get muddled up, the Obama facts. Yeah.

But it did make everyone look, not everyone. It made a lot of people look back at history and say, wait, that's not true. This is the way it happened. Before you just nailed it. But now, you know, that's an uphill battle. And we're still fighting. Everybody wants to let everyone in the country. We want open borders.

It doesn't matter. And so we're fighting, we're fighting. I mean, we've got fronts everywhere. Yeah. Let's first of all, let's talk about the black community, because you're right. First of all, we got hit pretty hard and even harder during Obama days. Yes. The greatest present to the black community was President Trump because they showed him how bad liberalism was.

He was one of the worst presidents, the worst president for the black community ever. And it could have been just the opposite, which I know we can cry about that for ever, but it could have been. So much better. The American people were waiting for someone like him. And he failed us. But he would have a country the last few years with black community, 75% of the black boys in the state of California cannot pass standard reading and writing tests. This was 2017.

You have 83% of black teen males during eight years of Obama could not find jobs. You have the abortion rate going up like crazy. You look at all those negative indicators. Well, here's the good news. Because he was so terrible. because he was a mess, many black people who had hope found out at the end of the day, wait a minute, nothing's changed. I'm worse often than now that was before. So all of a sudden, President Trump comes along, and not that he says everything right and everything is going

to kind of crazy in terms of how he's being portrayed, but here's the deal. 16% of black Americans were for Canada Trump. Now, 36% of black Americans were for President Trump because they're seeing jobs coming back. They're seeing prison reform being talked about, which you see education being address. People just need to see real results and they get hope. And I don't care what the narrative is for the left and the leftist and trying to excuse it all at the end of the day. When people can look at their bank accounts, look at the fact that you're having jobs, seeing the positive impact of going out and feeling good again, they're going to continue that. That's who we are as Americans. We're going to continue to trend in that direction. That's one of those, I mean, that's one,

if not the main thing that makes America great, that the other countries don't understand. I mean, going out and having a positive effect and being able to come to a man's house as his castle, back to your castle, back to your castle. Not the king's castle, your castle. I mean, that's America. I'll say, I can summarize American two words. Education ownership. We are people that loves education because that empowers us to think outside the box.

Ownership is not so much that everybody has to have their own business, but only our future. The American dream is what you make of it. That's your dream. accountable to our actions and recognize when I make a mistake, I'm going to own up to it and make a difference because I own that now. I'm not going to go there again because I can control it. That ownership is something that's so unique about America that we sometimes forget that. We take for granted. We come in here. We have our conversations like this. We might mess up. So you know what? I'm going to do a little bit better next time because I want to make sure I'm even better at what I do. Right.

That's what America's all about. We're always continuing improving ourselves because we look inside that we are the answers to our own issues. Okay, so your word is, you know, outstanding. And you're touring the country, you're writing books, you're, you know, you're a famous man, a known face, a known name. Are you even allowed on college campuses in America? To preach a little bit of your word? That's interesting.

I haven't had a chance to go on college campuses. They do allow it. It does happen, that's what you're saying. But what's interesting when the last one went to is how our kids now, our black kids,

are not being taught about respect, not being taught about critical thinking. And it's interesting to go to a college campus and have the kind of pushback when I tell somebody you can make it. This is a country that's good. And they see that as an insult.

They see the fact that I talk about me being a patriarch of my family. I'm the guy that's going to make sure my family is protected. that they provide it for, that my kids have a great future. I am the man. And that's what I'm here for. I'm here talking to you because I'm doing that.

And that's exactly what manhood. Men who don't do that lose their confidence. They lose everything who they are. And that's what the leftist wants to have happened. And just saying that, I had a young man that stood up and said that that was being sexist. All I can do is say, well, I'm just glad my daughter's didn't marry you. Because that would be, that would be immisibly.

That would be immisible. I'll be a miserable dad at that point. I can be very proud to say that, and I've always said to my kids, they have five girls and one boy. My goal in life is to teach my son how to be a man and teach my five girls how to recognize one. And I'm so pleased.

As I looked around, I was just out in Disney World. My kids, a couple days ago where it's very warm, by the way. Very hot. I spent a lot of years in Florida. I know, yes. And I can say, I looked at and I saw my kids and I said, man, my girls have done good and my son is a good guy.

And that makes it all work out. And I mean, that, again, that is the American dream, right? It's not becoming a billionaire and, you know, flying around in jets. Our, the American dream, the American, I said, American way is leaving a legacy. What's made our country great from the very, very beginning is what those parents would do to make sure their kids had a better chance, a better opportunity, more hope, and they was so proud of their kids that they outdid them. Yes.

That's what, that's what, we're talking about this. we began. We're talking how proud you are of your son and what they're doing now. That's the way parents have always been. This now, because socialist, Marxists, and atheists are trying to take over. It's just reverse. They're telling our kids what they can't do, how miserable life will be for them. And these kids are growing up thinking, well, my parents did it, but I can't do it. That is not the American way. They tried. When my son was in college a few years ago, they tried. I mean, they did their best to beat it out of them. And, you know, I mean, even for a long time, I've been hanging around this guy, Glenn Beck

that owns a silly network. And, you know, people would start bad-mouthed. In class, in his college classes. And he's either like, well, you know, I mean, I know him. He's all right. Well, you know, and here's the thing. What left us do, they're bullies and cowards.

I always understand this about these people. They're bullies and they're cowards. They go to the soft belly. They go where people do not. push them. They go, they have this safe job and safe environment and tell everybody that that you can't, you can't tread on their territory or you're being too aggressive. Right. They're the ones. It was the, there's the leftists that wore the white hoods. That are leftists today that wear the black masks. That are leftists today that get into

IRS and start to intimidate people who want to have free, free voice. This is the way the leftists work. So understanding that, our fight today is not against black and white. is not rich and poor, old and young, is that Jazeera Christian values has made us the greatest country in history of mankind, which allows us to be free, which allows every single generation to get better so we're sitting here today,

not even think about our colors. We're different colors. I don't know if you knew that. But we're not thinking about it. We're not thinking about it because we, it doesn't matter. We see our insight. We see our character.

The only thing I'm really mad at you about is wearing a stupid ring in my face. Wow. I'm glad I got it back when I could, I could do it because there's no way it's going to happen now. Burgess is wearing his Super Bowl ring, which is a little frustrating for me. It sure looks nice on him, though.

Well, I have to let people know when I showed it. Yes, the ratings used to win a football game, a long time ago. I thought they'd win something with John Gruden too because this year, too. I know. But anyway, we don't need to talk about team. That's fine. But at the end of the day, it comes down to the American Dream is the greatest gift we can give to our kids. and for men who are not doing that,

don't look in the mirror and never call yourself a man again. If you cannot encourage your kids to man up, overcome the obstacles, become better, look at yourself and improve. You can't do that. You're not the man that's the kind of man that's the kind of man to make this country great.

We're talking to Burgess Owens, and you can check it out at burgess Owens Talks.com. So a few things that are driving a huge wedge in the country today, and we talked a little bit about it, And it's, is, and it all kind of boils back to what you were saying. But, I mean, we have, you know, we have controversy over the N-word. We have controversy.

Everything that everyone does is racist. But everything that everything does, really that racism always is shouted from someone who is in a place that you talked about that is a safe place. Yeah. You're attacking me, so you must be racist. Yeah. I'm in my safe space. You're a racist.

Well, the problem is this. We have, well, country being divided by race. So bad. Who call other people racist. You know, we have, and I'll say this, up until Obama days, our country was drifting in such a positive way. I thought so too. And we can joke about our differences. We can have comedy about our differences.

And then Obama came along and he made PC such a strong factor. Whereas my kids now are looking around and say, what happened, Dad? I mean, they grew up just thinking colors no big deal. All of a sudden, they look around and it's a big deal. So all over again. It's all over. That is the goal of the leftist. Now keep this in mind.

There's a book written called The Seven Miracles of Save America by Chris Stewart. Great book. Little things that happen along the way. I believe November 8th, 2016, was the eighth miracle to save our nation. Because we as a people, not knowing that we had an imperfect candidate, but we decided that we're going to go with President Trump, make Donald Trump our president versus Hillary Clinton, that changed the trajectory of our country and that's a good way

because we would not be the country now talking about God and the flag and closing the borders and saving our country because the leftist would have won the battle. So I'm optimistic. A couple of things because I know that we still have a great place

in this world, our country. But more important, I look back on our history and I see how those miracles always happen along the way, including the fact we have with President Trump. Yeah. All right, so I go to Candace. I go to Burgess Owens.com and I see the rotating squares of words.

So those four words are expect, risk, care, dream. Let's break them down. Expect. Well, first, is dream more, expect more, risk more, and care more. What Americans have done the best, of all the things we've done, we've figured out a way to reach outside of, ourselves, I own problems, and even the midst of some tough times. How can I help somebody else?

That is America in a nutshell. It was my great-great-grandfather escaping in South Carolina and coming to Southern Route and Underground Railroad and being facilitated by German and Mexican Americans along the way, not knowing they were coming, not phoning ahead, they show up, and all of a sudden people say, you know what, I'm going to feed them, I'm going to close them, I'm going to give them home. Someone's at my door that needs help.

And I'll never see them again. and if you think about how this country's always done that if we continue to continue to do that not look at ourselves and we'll get out of it but learn how to dream bigger because we have a big God and that's what he expects of us learn how to expect more out of life because we're giving you and we know that the blessings

come back to us. Learn how to risk more which means we're not looking for the safe space that the leftists do. We look to get out on the edge and we will speak our voices because we take a risk We'll take a chance and starting a process of business of our own,

do whatever we have to do, and say, you know, I know I can make it. If I work hard enough, if I overcome, I know I can do it. Yeah. And we get through that process, and in the process of doing that, I think empathy comes out of it. And I tell you, this is the country that's full of empathy. And because we are, we care more than any of the nation and history of mankind. Burgess Owens, you're winning me over.

You're winning me over with optimism. I mean, you're fighting for the hearts and minds and souls. of Americans and you know the thing is look when people talk about the successes of African Americans the successes of Mexican Americans the successes of Japanese Americans whatever minority but that really it's the success that counts it lifts everybody up I don't know why it has we have to tear it down when someone else succeeds and here's why our history is so important you just nailed it um what happens with America Americans, we assimilate.

That's who we are. We come to this country and all of a sudden, yes, I am, I'm black. It's important to know that because when I show up, you know who I am. But I'm an American first.

And Americans who understand that the price paid for those in our past, our ancestors, they all pay the same price so we can get to the point to that we have the excitement we have the day.

And if given hope, opportunity, and freedom, I don't care who you are, you come to this country, as I talked about my great, great-grandfather, very successful, He did great things.

He ended up becoming, on his own 100 eggs of the land and paid off in two years. Start the first black church, the first black elementary. Peel of his community. I feel like such a loser. Well, keep this in mind. Here's a guy who showed up, who grabbed here in the belly of slave ship, but it realized the American dream is, I will risk more, care more, dream more, and expect more. Thank you.

In the process of doing that, he lived the American dream. And I'll say this. My dad grew up in a time of Jim Crow segregation, but I think I met my great-great-grandfather to my dad, the same kind of expectations. And I hope my- Well, it was driven into him, right? I mean, he saw it.

He lived it. Exactly. And I'm hoping my kids will say the same thing about me that they met their great-great-grandfather, their own dad. And that is really what we all do, isn't it? Yes, and we have as dads, we want to do our best for our kids and make it work.

Burgess Owens, it was great to see you. Thank you very much for stopping him. Burgess Owens, the latest book, Why I Stand, and of course, you can have the second book. And you can get them in a package. Oh my gosh, the liberalism, how to turn good men into wineries, whirges, thank you very much. I love seeing you. Look forward to getting back down again. Absolutely.

Anytime. Take care. All right.