Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 485 | Puppy Price Gouging | Guest: Heather L Montgomery

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Ramen Noodle ‘Chief Noodle Officer’ contest… Possible attack caterpillars in the U.S… Workers don’t expect to go back to the office this year... Microsoft says work from home if you want, forever… Cal Cunningham has a rubber stamp answer about affairs… Pulpit to Porn behind the paywall… Prime Day today and tomorrow Walmart and Target may be doin some deals Curbside pick up has helped and may stick around Wait! Neck gaiters are fine? Just wear the mask… Subscribe to the Podcast… Subscribe to the YouTube Email to [e-mail] Who Gives a Poop? comin up… Puppy prices through the roof / price gouging anyone? Covid study paused UK implements three tiered plan Facebook will now ban Holocaust deniers Second Covid-19 infection can be worse than the first…??  Heather L Montgomery Who Gives a Poop? Surprising Science from One End to the Other https://www.amazon.com/Who-Gives-Poop-Surprising-Science-ebook/dp/B088RM5524 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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but I know there's ramen noodles. You have an opportunity, or even I, have an opportunity to become a chief noodle officer. A golden anniversary, they're picking a celebrity judge of how do I, how do you top ramen? Hashtag how do you top ramen?

It's the 50th anniversary contest. You can enter the creation on social media, however you do, and simply post a photo and a recipe of you. dish and tag the original top ramen and hashtag how do you top ramen must be 18 years of age what happens if you win 10,000 bucks goes into your bank account you get a mentorship from the CEO you get a chance to taste new products share your feedback and you get 50 years worth of ramen noodles.

That's pretty slick. That's pretty slick. Now, if your house is like many houses, including this one, whether it's a house, a trailer, a barn, a shed, you are a ramen noodle house. Why? Because it's easy and it tastes good. Good for you? Sure.

Why not? Whatever you say. But I am ready. to become the chief noodle officer, the CNO. That's right. I mean, good luck to you, but I'm planning on winning. Or at least, you know, one of my kids, because if they win, I'm taking the money.

Oh, wait, they have to be 18. So only one, well, two can enter. And they're going to lose because I'm winning. I am becoming the chief. noodle officer from ramen noodles. Good luck. Good luck. Welcome chewing the fat. How in the world are you? Thanks for coming along for the ride today. So I have a warning for those of you in, well, you know, I'm just going to say it, the entire U.S. Now, they claim that it's most commonly a problem in southern states,

Texas, but then they mentioned Missouri. The story mentions Virginia. and Florida. So that's what I'm just saying the country. Wherever you live, be on the lookout. For one of the most venomous caterpillars there are. There have been multiple reports of the puss caterpillar appearing in parks or near structures in Virginia, in Florida. The Virginia Department of Forestry is warning residents to stay away from the caterpillar. No.

no kidding. It has venomous spines across its thick, furry coat. They're little hollow hairs. If you see any kind of caterpillar, I would just say stay away. Okay. According to the Teresa Dellinger, a diagnostician at the insect identification lab at Virginia Tech. That's a good gig right there. A lot to put on the business card, but a good gig.

what do you do for a living well i'm at the insect identification lab at virginia tech university i'm a diagnostician oh okay well thank you appreciate it so the reaction if you get bit stung attacked by a venomous caterpillar i don't know if they're they attack people but i wouldn't wouldn't put it past caterpillars venomous caterpillars to make that happen the reaction can include itchy rash, vomiting, swollen glands, and fever. A Virginia resident described the feeling like a scorching hot knife. A Florida mother said her teenage son began screaming when he was attacked, I mean stung by a venomous caterpillar.

So be on the lookout. They are not safe. He compares the caterpillar to a bee sting. if you're susceptible to a bee sting, treat it like one. I would treat it like you just got bit by something that really hurts, okay? Now, again, it doesn't say that they attack you, but I wouldn't put it past anything or any animal in the year of 2020 to have them attack you.

We could be seeing reports very soon of venomous caterpillars attacking people in parks from shore to shore here in the U.S. So be on the lookout for the venomous hairy caterpillar all over the country. So are you paired

to go back to work? Many of you may have already started going back into your workplace. Many of you may have decided I'm going to stay home. So according to this poll,

uh, few people feel comfortable going back to work. The global think tank called, uh, conference board. I work by, polling release Thursday by the conference board. Yeah.

Uh, it's a, I guess, you know, it's a huge global think tank. Everyone knows about the conference board. I'm disappointed that I didn't get the mailing flyer of this study. Uh,

they found, that 28% of workers think they will return to work by the end of the year. 17% would feel comfortable doing it. 70% of workers indicated they are only moderately comfortable returning. Oh, okay. Working from home has turned out to be more productive than originally expected. 33% of respondents questioned the wisdom of returning to their workspace. 29% of the respondents have little faith in their colleagues' ability to adhere to safety protocols and guidelines,

making it harder for them to want to return to work. So, yeah, you know, I'd like to come back to work, but my coworkers are dumb, and they wouldn't do anything that they're supposed to do, and they wouldn't follow any safety protocols, and I just, I can't go back if that's going to happen. Oh, okay. So, yeah, your company hired some good people, huh? So apparently this survey was conducted in September, mid-September, and it pulled 1,100 U.S. workers,

and that's the conference board's findings. Incredible that I find it, and I get it. You just a lot of people don't feel comfortable going back to work yet. It's still, you know, we're still having an issue with, you know, cases. more people getting tested and more people coming down with COVID-19. A lot more asymptomatic people, though. But according to guidelines, you're still supposed to quarantine. Okay, I get it.

But I love the fact that, yeah, you know, I'd love to come back, but I do not have faith in my coworkers. They are dumb. That's not what they said, of course. They said the ability to adhere to safety protocols and guidelines makes it harder for me to want to return to work. Really what they're saying? And we do read between the lines here on chewing the fat. You, my coworkers, are dumb.

And I don't trust you at all to follow any kind of safety protocols. Oh. Okay, well, that's nice of you. Well, that having been said, we get the news that Microsoft has now decided, you know what? But you can work from home permanently. Yeah, even once the pandemic is over. Eh, I don't worry about it. I don't plan on, we're not going to open up the offices.

Well, actually, they kind of are. According to this, they're going to create a hybrid workplace. They're going to allow employees to work from home freely for less than 50% of their working week. So a lot of people still kind of got to go in. Managers are going to be able to approve permanent. remote work if the staff requested. So all you have to do is I don't want to have to come in. I don't trust any of my coworkers to adhere to any safety protocols.

So I'd rather just work from home. Part-time working hours also available with approval from the manager. They've got most of their employees now are working from home. And they weren't even going to reopen. They already said they weren't going to reopen until at least January 2021, which I'm sure many places are all. already deciding on. And it also said that for those who could work from home, entirely from remote,

you know what? Well, we're probably going to let that happen. Okay. Good deal. Now, Microsoft has, what, 150,000 employees or more? So, I don't know how you, I don't know how you, I don't know how to keep offices open, at least the offices that they have, right? they're going to let people not decide whether they want to come in or not,

but they still have to have offices that, you know, and people working in those offices that have access to hardware labs and data centers and in-person training. So you're still going to have to go in and train and hope that your coworkers during the training sessions adhere to companies safety protocols. But after that, you can go on back home. Get out of here. We don't want you around here. So, wow, that leaves a lot of office space wide open.

And Microsoft, I'm pretty sure is smart enough to say, we're not going to be using the top three floors or the bottom four floors, so we're not going to pay rent for those either. So find somebody else to work out of there. Okay. All right. Hope we work is still working out because that's what's going to happen. Now, that doesn't mean that these people aren't going to be.

going out to restaurants and doing business, which means we need to open the country back up. That just means that these businesses who have big office spaces are going to let people work from home. And hopefully that will, you know, flatten the curve more than lockdowns, which are agonizing. But there you are. If you're having to go back into work, ooh, good luck. I hope you have confidence that your coworkers will adhere to. safety protocols. So good move from Cal Cunningham, who is for office in North Carolina.

Remember, we talked about it. He's running for Senate. And he got busted, having affairs, plural. And he just disappeared for a little while this went away. He canceled a couple of appearances, which was a good call. But more news came out that he, you know, took care of a little Cal Cunningham business with one of them at the house when the wife was gone. And remember, he was the one that...

One of the sex texts that he sent said, You are historically sexy. Hey, nothing says, man, do I think you're hot? Then sending a text, you know, you are historically sexy. Oh, yeah. Now, there were more texts that he said, and apparently there was some photos, and the one lady was pissed.

One of the affair ladies was pissed that he was not giving her enough attention. So he was gonna, she was gonna go, go public, because she was, oh, Cal was not giving her any more love. He was through with her. Okay, no problem. Thanks, Cal.

Love you too, babe. Seriously. So apparently he's back out on the campaign trail. He never he never dropped out. He didn't take his name off the Of the voting Royals, but I don't think he can't right we remember we talked about that was too close to the election so his name's gonna be on there anyway So why job out right? But he's got to get back out there and start confronting people and of course they're gonna ask about the affairs and I mean Cal was working hard when he disappeared to figure out a way to get around this. And so how do you do that if you're running for office? Well, I say listen to Cal Cunningham.

So every time he was asked about the affairs, he just said, I have taken responsibility for the hurt that I've caused in my personal life. I've apologized for it. This campaign is about more than just me. North Carolinas are looking for somebody who's going to take on the monumental challenges in front of us. Okay. Thanks, Cal.

That's really not an answer about the affairs and what's happening with it and how's your family and are you still having these affairs and how many women have you had affairs with? Can we look forward to more sex texts from you? Like the one that talked about, you are historically sexy. But no, whenever asked about it, Um, look, I've taken responsibility for the hurt that I've caused in my personal life, and I've apologized for it. So this campaign is about more than just me.

Got it? Okay, then. Next question. Today we talked about the priest that is in trouble in Louisiana. And now we have a pastor who quit her role in the church. She wanted to become a stripper. And you know what? It's selling X-rated content online.

Is there a new calling? Nicole Mitchell, 36 from Orange County, California, grew up a strict Baptist and was training to become a leader of her Christian congregation. but during this time she discovered that she was queer or at least bisexual and she no longer felt she had a place in the church and decided to fulfill her teenage fantasy of becoming an erotic dancer she now shares raunchy pictures on her Instagram account the massed 95,000 followers and has an only fans account where she sells further racy content to paying customers.

Now, she had this to say in an interview on this morning today. What I do is very polarizing. People are either a-okay with it or they're not okay with it. And so at the end of the day, I just have to decide what I am called to do and trust that calling on my life and let the chips fall where they may. and a lot of people have come around to support me and I have lost a lot of people along the way as well yeah but we should say we're showing what are

almost like family snaps of you there I just want to explain to people watching at home this is not representative of what Nicole does well there is Mr. Telepresenter from London on this morning today it's exactly what she presents herself as these pictures, these family snaps. What you see on Instagram every day.

Now, of course, what he's referring to is her only fans account that, you know, her paying customers pay for. I don't know how many fans she has on her only fans account. It doesn't say in the story, and I don't know that she wants to say. But if she has 95,000 Instagram followers, claims here hubby is okay with it she's said it took a while for her to become more risque and take more chances along the way but i mean she's got to be making some cash right we've got to find out i've got to find out exactly what uh what her fans only or only fans account is hold on okay so she has

394 posts She has 8,000 8.1, 8.1,000 likes. She is what if she got here? 2499 a month or you can get

50% off and get a six month subscription for 74.99 so 75 bucks for six months. Pulpit to porn, baby. Pulpit to porn. Well, if the family's okay with it and she's making cash, bless her heart.

And she doesn't look terrible. You know, she doesn't look terrible. I don't know that she's worth, you know, $25 bucks a month. But that sounds bad. I shouldn't say that. Of course, she's worth 25 bucks a month. Who wouldn't think the mother of children that are 5, 7, and 10 and are,

and has gone from preacher to porn isn't living the life she's wanted to. She even said, this has been her dream. And now, I don't think her dream, her dream she said was, being an exotic dancer. So maybe on the only fans account, she's dancing. I don't know. If you subscribe to Nicole Mitchell on only fans, if you're a fan of Nicole Mitchell on only fans,

and you subscribe, email me, chewing the fat at the blaze.com, and we, I want to know what she's doing on her account. Is she dancing? Is she just snapping picks? Is she in the back? yard is she in the front yard is she in the bedroom does she have her only fans room that's just for subscribers or what's going on with Nicole's only fans account in fact maybe i should just reach

out to Nicole and have a little chat with her myself that i believe has to happen all right let's go to the break room i need something cold to drink as it is anyway oh hey and it's a bottle of refreshing fluid liquid Because that's all they had on the shelf. It's Prime Day. Yay! Today and tomorrow. But really, I mean, any day over this pandemic has been a Prime Day.

But I guess there's going to be huge sales and big deals going on on Amazon Prime in the next couple of days. So there may be products that you regularly get that you should perhaps order now since it'll probably be on sale because it's prime day. Just a thought. And of course, if you usually get things in Walmart or Target, I'm sure they're going to be having huge sale events on their websites as well. So good luck, save some money. I know that they're talking about how these businesses are at least showing some bonuses,

like curbside pickup. They are, you know, Target. and Best Buy have been huge on their curbside pickup because, well, some of these, the best one wasn't even letting people in the store for a long time. So, I mean, you had to call ahead and pick it up curbside. But I think they learned, you know, that's not a bad thing. People call, know their product, and they get to get it and drive away. I realize that you want people coming into the store because then you get a little bit of browsing.

Even the guy who says, I just go in and out, get what I need. I hate chopping around, but as you walk in, you see a sale. You may stop even if it's just for 30 seconds to check something out and get something or not. And you have to walk back to where your product is or walk to the right or walk to the left or wherever the heck your product is. And so you're seeing other items. And that's going into your brain. And then you're back to Best Buy. So, you know, curbside is cool and it's great.

But these retailers definitely want to get you in the store or at least to the website. I mean, so they've got a, man, if you are a website developer and can develop some ways to get people to stick around to websites for 30 seconds longer than normal, you're going to make some money. Get your product out there, which is you, and you're going to be making some money. There's no doubt about that. That's a good thing. That's a really good thing. So remember when we were told, masks work and everyone wears masks

and then it was nah you don't have to wear a mask don't worry about it and then we were told hey you know some masks work better than other masks and wear a gator mask the neck gaiters

and because they don't work as well as the other masks and then we find out that oh wait now it comes out that the neck gators worked just as well as masked at stopping the spread of COVID-19. Oh, what about the past study? Ah, don't worry about those. Forget it.

The protective wear trapped up to 90% of the large particles escaping with 50% of the super fine particles. That's on par with the cloth face mask, so you're fine. Don't worry about it. Oh, okay. So I could wear the net gaiters? yes, you're fine. What about the mask, the cloth mask? Yep, you can go ahead and wear those two.

So, really, even though the Duke study said the neck gators may make infectious droplets spread more easily, eh, nah, you know, that's fine. Look, it's fine. Just, you know what we want? We want to get those studies out there that say, wear a mask. We don't need to have people confused over which

mask to wear. We'll do that later. Right now, let's just get them wearing the mask and shutting up about it. Okay. So if we start confusing them now over wearing a mask or not wearing a mask and I can't wear this kind of mask, I can only wear this kind of mask, then they're going to get frustrated and say, screw it, I'm not going to wear a mask. So right now, let's not confuse the masses. just tell them any mask is fine. We've got to get the people used to wearing the mask and not complaining about it. Then we'll, then we can get back to them and tell them which kind of mask to wear.

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I'm going to get off you back now. I'm not going to be, you know, I'm done. Done whining. It's okay. Just subscribe to the podcast. I'm looking forward to an interview during this podcast. Coming up on the show, I'm going to be talking to Heather Montgomery.

And she has a new book, Who Gives a Poop? And I was really fascinated by the book. It was a fun read and fun and fast. And it was just cute. There was a lot of cute facts. And we're going to talk to Heather about her, about her, Who Gives a Poop book that has just been released. We did a story on Pat Unleashed this morning when I was filling in on the show.

For those of you listening live on the 13th of October 2020, about how COVID-19 is. sending pedigree puppy prices through the roof. And I'm still amazed at these prices going through the roof. So pups are fetching as 50% more nationwide because of lockdown loneliness. Isn't that price gouging? The more I thought about it, it's price gouging. I think we need to have some sort of investigation.

So people are charging more for the puppies and you've still got to provide a private charter plane to have them delivered to you? How about no? No. So according to breeder Pat Self out of Missouri, they can't keep up. The breeders can't keep up.

And he, Pat said, I don't know, it just says that Pat is a he or a she, so I just have to Pat self. None of us can keep up. It's quite shocking. It doesn't say whether Pat is a he or she. so I apologize. Says

it's quite shocking. No kidding. So a cross between a Maltese and a poodle, a Malapu, sold for $1,000 to $1,500 pre-pandemic, which seems like a bit much

even then. But now, for delivery before the holidays, $2,400. That's price gouging. I'm sorry. No. We're not paying price,

gouging prices. So top dog city pups, a cavapoo, a mix of cavalier, King Charles Spaniel and a poodle, and the golden doodle, a poodle golden retriever hybrid. Wow.

Going for $3,200. And some places are charging $4,700. No, this is, this, I, I have now come to the conclusion that this is price gouging. Now, according to this, it says getting a puppy from a Midwest breeder to the East Coast, where most of the buyers are, according to the breeders, uh, are on the East Coast, costs up to $399 for a commercial flight. But many airlines pause their live animal cargo because of the infection.

Why would an airline pause their live animal cargo when they're dying for business? Why? Because we're bailing them out. That's why. That's ridiculous. So now they have to get an $800 seat on a private charter. And a smaller breed pup needs a flying companion. If you have a little pup that weighs less than two pounds, you've got to have a companion.

And that's another, that's like $1,500, $1,600. We are being price gouged to death on these stupid puppy prices. Now, a good way to make a quick living, though, as I'm telling you this, I'm thinking, whoa, I could volunteer to be a puppy companion. so you could pay me to be the puppy companion to fly to and fro and be with your poor little puppy. Come here, little puppy. I'll take you out to New York and meet your new owner.

Here you go. See you later, a little under two-pound puppy that they just paid a bunch of money for. They can pay for me to ride with you too. Goodbye, little puppy. I'm just saying, I don't know that's a million-dollar idea, but it's a way to make a couple of bucks. Now, there was some news. I should have thrown this in with the mask talk,

but Disney World is saying that the worst fears about the virus have not come true. Now, of course, attendance has been low since the reopening. You know, the beginning of the reopening was pretty overwhelming, and then people were like, we're not going to do this.

But health officials and worker unions say that, thanks to the safety protocols, they've kept the coronavirus, virus at bay. Now, some may say that this is Disney saying, we're fine. Everything's fine. Come to the park. Sure, you have to wear your mask 24-7 while you're at the park, and that's the way it goes. But no worries, we've kept the virus at bay, and with our new protocols, it's all good. I, you know, I mean, they're just, they're done it, right? They went to California and begged to California to reopen so they wouldn't have to lay people off.

California doesn't care. If we open up Disney World, then we've got to let Bill's Bar and Grill open, and we don't want to do that. It's embarrassing. And it's killing the country. And that, it has to stop. Johnson & Johnson has paused its COVID-19 vaccine study after an unexplained illness in a participant. Now, we already know that, in a...

know it's not uncommon for pauses to happen during a clinical trial. I mean, 60,000 people, yeah, but it's not uncommon at all. But kind of disappointing and, you know, slows that process down a little bit. And President Trump will not be happy. I mean, he'll still be immune and he'll, you know, still be, feel like he's king of the world and run around and give you that COVID kiss if you want. I'm sorry, that post-COVID kiss, if you want. But, you know, it kind of puts a little hitch in the giddy-up

getting that vaccine out there. And you have British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, implementing a three-tiered system of restrictions on parts of England to bring down the spread of COVID-19. I wonder what I should have clicked on the, the what are the three-tiered plan that Boris is giving us. It's going to shutting pubs, and the lockdowns are going to include shutting pubs and bars

and banning wedding receptions in areas placed in the very high alert level. The other alert levels in the new system are medium and high. Boy, that took some time. Figure that one out. You know, we took on a very high level and then medium level and high level. That's a good idea, Boris. Oh, okay.

So if right now, if you're classified at the very high level, gyms, leisure centers, casinos, betting shops, adult gaming centers, they will also close. Wow, I mean, okay, you don't want to be in the very high. You do not want to be in the very high, portion of the flag. If we let the virus rip,

then the bleak mathematics dictate that we would suffer not only an intolerable death toll, but we would put such a huge strain on the National Health Service with an uncontrolled spike that our doctors and nurses would simply be unable to devote themselves to other treatments. Agreed. But right now, even with the case count going up,

the death count is not. So, But you know what? Hey, sure. Don't worry about that whole, you know, he said, I know that it's frustrating and thinking about the repressions of liberty. Yeah, just a tad.

I know this is the United Kingdom and not the U.S., but it might as well be us. Just unbelievable. So Facebook has said now that they're going to ban content that distorts or denies the Holocaust. Oh, wait, what? So if you deny the Holocaust, you're going to get banned? Well, well, well, are this Facebook finally admitting that yes, there was a Holocaust?

Amazing! I know. Somebody kicked our man Zuck in the rear end. Hey, Zuck, it actually happened. Bro? What? I know. Okay.

And a second COVID-19 infection, according to this now, maybe worse than the first. Sure, we think we're immune. Donald Trump believes he's immune now. He's cured. He's immune. If you had it once before, you've built up your immune system. You've got your good. Don't worry about it.

Well, according to this study, and we're finding this out with damn near everything, just like the masks. One day they tell you this, the next day they tell you that. So according to this, an otherwise healthy 25-year-old man from Nevada was reinfected,

according to a new report in the Lancet Infectious Diseases Medical Journal. And again, who doesn't get the Lancet infectious diseases medical journal? And needed hospital treatment. According to this, this raises further questions about immunity.

for those who have already had the disease. So we don't really know if the otherwise healthy 25-year-old man was, you know, jumping around in a peaceful protest. I'm sure they think he went to a Trump rally. So we're not really sure if he was swimming around in COVID-19. I mean, why wouldn't you swim around? COVID-19. So according to this, the first wave of symptoms included sore throat, cough, headache, nausea,

diarrhea, test positive for the first time. Initial symptoms fully resolve a week later. Then in May, he tests negative for the virus two times. He developed symptoms again at the end of May, which is a month later. A month after he had his initial symptoms fully resolved. and a couple weeks after the negative test, he developed symptoms again, this time including fever, headache,

dizziness, cough, nausea, and diarrhea. Then in a week later, he tests positive for the second time and his hypoxic low blood oxygen with shortness of breath. Wow. So, but they don't say in between that time when he tested negative

after, after resolving all the symptoms, whether he was what was going on, right? It was, uh, he tests negative a couple times and then we don't know if he was, it doesn't say, and he was swimming in COVID. So, okay, we'll see what was going on in Nevada at the time as our otherwise healthy,

25 year old man was, uh, was reinfected. But if that's true, holy cow. And that doesn't. It doesn't bode well for becoming immune for a period of time afterward, because that timeline was only a couple of weeks. Total.

I mean, what I say was a month. The timeline was a month after fully resolving the symptoms, but it wasn't a month. It was less than a month for him to test positive again and developing symptoms again. So, you know, maybe he never left it. know, but he's still tested negative a couple times. I don't know. Some days it's good, some days it's bad. You can quote me on that.

But really, who gives a poop? Download and subscribe to more content at the blaze.com slash podcasts. Who gives a poop? That's the question. Who gives a poop? Well, Heather Montgomery gives a poop. And that's her new book, Who Gives a Poop? And that's her new book, Who Gives a Poop?

the poop, surprising science from one end to the other. Heather, welcome to chewing the fat. How in the world are you? Oh, I'm excited. I'm ready to talk about some fecal fun today. There's nothing like it. So as I'm perusing your book, we can kind of break down some of the chapters and go through it, but I will say that I really enjoyed the notes at the bottom of the pages with the little

facts, a little fun facts, those were great. Well, excellent. And I know one of my favorite ones was about the gopher turtles that's early on in the book, but I had my first, my first, I know this interview is with you, but my

first mother-in-law, she and I had a huge fight for years, a friendly fight, over whether gopher turtles were called gophers or turtles. Because I would never, this was in Florida, and she had them around her house and she would always call them gophers.

She was, you know, born and raised in Florida. And I was like, those aren't gophers. Those are turtles. You're out of your mind. And then we finally got into a big article about a guy who was poaching them. And they were referred to as gopher turtles. So we were both right. But I love the fun facts about the gopher turtles and how their tunnels are safe shelter

for forest fires and 350 species depend on these tortoises. including a beetle that refuses to eat anything except the gopher tortoise droppings. Have you studied that particular beetle? Oh, yeah. I love these things. Right. So the thing about nature is it's so amazingly intricate. And we have just scratched the edge of the iceberg and understanding what's going on. For example, that tortoise, right? It lives deep in the ground. Yeah. And most of the time it's down under.

there and we don't know what's going on with it, right? And so, still come to find out, like, you know, you got to go, you got to go. And so he goes in the bottom of his tunnel, but that's not actually great to be living in your feces. So he's probably thankful. I mean, I can't read the mind

of a tortoise, but he's probably saying thank you to this beetle, because what this beetle does is, well, consume his you know, poop. What's, you know, phenomenal is that's that whole process of recycling. And sure, we've all heard about, you know, poop is fertilizer. This kind of puts a new spin on it, right? Yeah, it does. Yes, it does. This creature can only

live. That's the only place we know on earth that it lives. Just phenomenal. So as we go through your book, and I usually just run down the favorite things of your chapters. So I'm going to name you a few chapters, and you just give me the favorite thing in that chapter. Go well. Okay. So chapter poo-poo-choo-choo so I don't know if I'd say it's favorite but this piece right here

this story of poop being put on a train human feces being put on a train from New York and New Jersey and shipped all the way to Alabama Yeah that's down in your neck of the woods Exactly and I was honestly I was a little bit mift here right

Like what happened is it got stuck in this community community. Yeah, I remember that story. Some paperwork issues. They couldn't unload it. And so it was stuck there. And I was, you know, what's going on here?

And between you and me, like, I did not want human poop in this book. No. No, it's disgusting. Who wants to look at that? I'm interested in animals. And animals are fascinating. And this taught me a lesson right here. This story right here taught me about my own bias, right?

Really? It came back and got me at the end of the book. Look, this is the amazing thing that happens. When we're willing to look at that thing that we think is gross and we think is disgusting and it's too much, we'll actually face it, surprising things happen. Yeah, no doubt about that. So I remember that story, and I'm sure that, oh, what's the name of the city now? Something in a pear parish?

Is that right? Parish, Alabama, right? Yeah. Are they still housing? Nope. Human poo? Nope. Nope.

That's all cleared out now. That's a good thing. I'm sure the parish town folk are happy about that. But just thinking about that, you know, what you learn when you actually start looking at it, right? That's right. There's another fun fact that I learned from your book, as a matter of fact, since we talked about your neck of the woods in the, you know, the great state of Alabama. Has more species of freshwater fish, crayfish, snails, mussels, turtles, carnivorous plants, and others than any. the other state. That's incredible.

And who knew? And you think that's compared to some states that are kind of bigger than us. Think Texas, thinks California. I know, yeah. I mean, that's the state I've been now. Yeah. And it is amazing. And we just don't know what's in our backyard. And since I live in Texas, that fun fact right there has got to be a lie. Texas wins that. Ah, Texas. Well, for some species, yes. Oh, you Texans.

I love the fun facts, though. I'm a huge fan of the fun facts. So as how bad, and we can go on. These are some of the notes that I took as I was reading your book here. So I did have the poo-poo train. What about the pangolins? I was a big fan of the pangolin story. Great story.

Panglans are amazing. Unfortunately, they're also being extirpated off the planet because, well, people eat them. maybe, and people also use their scales for medicinal uses. But these pangolins are amazingly shy. And we can't actually find them. So in order to find these pangolins to help protect them,

they're training dogs. Right. So here's the thing. If you can't find an animal, how can you play with dogs? Right. How do you know it? Right. So literally this.

group had to travel all the way to Asia to track down some poop and then train the dogs on that poop. And the dogs can then find the pangolins. It's amazing. But you know what? We don't even know the basic things about these animals. Like we don't even know about all their diets. And there are all these different species of pangolins. The largest pangolin ever recorded is a giant ground pangolin weighing 72 pounds. Wow. And then on the other end of the scale is this long-tailed pangolin who's only four to six pounds. Size different. That's like a boxer. It's a chihuahua, right? So pretty amazing.

Yeah. And this poop stinks. Apparently, the scientist I talked to, you know, she's tracked all kinds of wildlife using poop. And she said, pangolin's by far the worst, which doesn't quite make sense because we think all they eat is insects. But honestly, we don't know. We literally just don't know. And when you talk about, you know, how we evil humans are getting rid of them, the poachers don't care what they eat. They just want to know how they live so they can find them.

Sure, sure. I mean, when you need food, you need food, and you're going to find the penguins if you can't. So did we, we found out, though, through this, through your friends, right, that they have different. home spaces, you know, obviously for their size and stuff. But I mean, do they, are they generally the same kind of looking for the same home? I'm just fascinated by the penguin now, to be honest with you. No, I am too, because they're fascinating. And honestly, we don't have all those answers yet. But yeah, one of them, one of them was found up in a tree. And

the scientist was not looking in the tree because that's not where we thought they lived. but the dog was pointing, was reacting to the tree. And the scientists, we think, you know, normally they live in these holes in the ground. Right. This is what I'm saying. Like, there's so much we don't know, right? There's so much that we have yet to understand about the world. So a couple things.

You seem to have taken a shine to animal autopsies. So are we still? we still autopsic bodies in the front room, or are you done with that? Was that just for the book? Oh, I am always interested in animal anatomy. It fascinates me. I just can't help my curiosity, right? Now, these are animals that are already dead, right? I'm not going to kill an animal to understand what goes through its gut. But once an animal's died, say on the road, you know, yeah, I stretched the beaver intestines all across my front porch. That's fascinating.

Tell how that got started. I love the, I think that's got guts. The gutts, yeah, yeah, yeah. So all my friends know I'm into this stuff, right? And so a friend sends me a picture, a screenshot of this thing called Got Guts. It's a citizen science. And I'm like, yeah, citizens. I'm a citizen. I like to do science.

So it's basically a group of scientists that are asking people to send pictures of animal guts. Now, you know, I just charge right in there and go, oh, I've got some animals in my freezer. This dead beaver, I'm like, oh, let me stretch it out. And so I stretch it out and do all this stuff. And then I'm like, oh, I didn't follow the instructions. You're supposed to like measure it when it's in the body and you're supposed to do this and that. I didn't do that. I just charged right in because I wanted to see what was in a beaver's gut.

And how is a beaver's gut different than a deer gut different than a bobcat gut? They're fascinatingly different, right? So that's how that started. And I ended up with beaver gut all over my front porch. And turns out this scientist is asking some really important questions. Like, we don't even know the basic information, like how long are intestines in different animals. It doesn't seem like that. A lot of people may say that we can go through our life without knowing that.

Well, sure. You, on the other hand, Heather, want. us to know that. I do want us to know that. And, and I want us to think about the connection to humans. So she also then did, you know, a little looking in some human bodies and, and discovered that women's intestines are longer than men's. We did not know that. How did we not know that? So many jokes, I'm just letting them go. I know, right. Thank you. You can write your own jokes. How can we do know this? We're talking to Heather Montgomery. author of Who Gives a Poop.

And there were some fine illustrations in there. I'm sure Iris is a friend and did a good job for the book. So how bad, after going through the book and studying a little bit of to write the book, Who Gives a Poop? How bad do you hate humans now? I don't hate humans at all, right? I don't at all. And so this is the thing, like the whole idea of looking at the human poop and how I had this idea,

that it was so gross, it comes back to teach me the lesson that we're, we're a part of this planet too, right? Amen. And that is so critical. Now, we have choices that we make all the time, right? And I think it's important for us to make careful choices, but we belong here. Yeah. You know, and, um, we're the rulers, damn it, Heather.

That's just the way it is. That all depends on your personal belief. But I think that every organism is fascinating. I'm fascinated by the book. There were some great stories in it. And it was a fun read. And there's some great fun facts. I also was surprised that you are just an overwhelming bug lover.

I am. And none of that changed, right? It just endeared you even more to the bugs while going through who gives a poop. I love insects. They're phenomenal. I think part of it is because they're just underappreciated, right? And they're everywhere. And all we know about are quote unquote the bad ones, right? We think about mosquitoes. Yeah. And we don't think about, go on, go on. I've got to. No, we don't think about like all the dung beetles that that manage the poop of the world. And what would we do without them, right? So we just hear or, you know, experience some insects that, you know, we don't like. And therefore we have. have a bias against all of them. Yeah.

Well, I did a story earlier in the show today about the venomous caterpillars. Oh, yeah. And do you know if venomous caterpillars are, are they attack caterpillars or are they just, you know, regularly just kind of small crawling caterpillars? Right. They're just small crawling caterpillars. They don't actually go out and attack you. They are.

Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure. I've been nabbed. Well, what happens, though, is often they're in a tree and you walk past. and you brush it on your arm. Oh. That's where I typically get stung the most. It's on my arm as I accidentally brush.

It's like an inadvertent attack. Yeah, yeah. They're just covered in it. I mean, it's not, they don't have that for us. They have that to keep predators from eating them. That's all. They're just covered it. So really, and one of the things that, you know, we joke around, obviously, you know,

about poop and crap and everything else. But it's an important process. I mean, it is the, you know, the circle. of life, right? I mean, that's the whole thing. So, what do we as humans need to do? Anything at all? Or we just need to make sure that we become one with the planet. I think we need to put our poo goggles on and see, you know, be willing to ask questions. So sure, poo is fertilizer. I mean, but it can cause problems, right? And I think we just need to not be afraid to ask those questions, right? I mean,

poop can be used to save lives. Does that mean it's perfect? No. You know, there's definitely problems there. We don't want to go stirring it with our bare hands. Okay. Speaking of that, I was going to, now I was, I was going to let it go, but now you brought it back full circle to the beginning of the book and it was on my notes, so I'm going

back to it. You don't get to go away without me asking this question. You can hang up if you want. There's a brief note about how human poo is developed and then put it back into other humans? That's right. What do we do that for? So we do that because it saves lives. Okay, that's an easy. What do we do it because it saved grandma's life. Okay, great. The grandma got Harry's poop put in her and she's alive. But why are we doing that? So your guts are full of microbiome, right? There's all this bacteria that lives in there. There's quote unquote good guys and quote

of bad guys. A lot of bad guys in mind, by the way, but go ahead. When the bad guys take over specifically, I'm talking about C. diffacil, a really bad guy that can totally ruin you. C. diffacil has in the past killed 29,000 Americans in a year. Wow. Right? That's pretty serious stuff. Yeah. Poop can fix that at a rate of about 89%. This is crazy. But think about it this way. You've got poop coming out of a healthy human, has a nice, healthy balance of bacteria. Okay? If you're back to if somebody, and I met this young lady who had C. difficile and the C. difficile had taken over her guts, okay? Her brother donated his dump. They inject it with literally looks like a baster up into her body, right, into her colon. Then his healthy bacteria can take over. Right. It usually takes two times, and it did with her, two times, but it totally changed her life because she now had

a healthy microbiome in there. Just blows our mind. That's awesome. And it's this idea that we used to think bacteria was bad, bad, bad, but wait, here's bacteria that we need. Yeah, I mean, we're using it for good. That's awesome. Heather, Heather Montgomery, author of Who Gives a Poop on Chewing the Fat, thank you so much

for spending a few minutes with me today. I really appreciate it. And it was a fun read. It was a great time. Thanks, Jeff. All right. Hey, Heather. Yeah.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you. I ended up a number that they gave me on an email today to contact someone. Oh, no. I called. Uh-oh. And it belonged to a Jody.

Yes. So Jody gave me a number, but that number was not a good number. Didn't work. Yes. So I'm not going to call Jody back and say, Heather gave you the wrong number and start a fight. Yeah. But I'm just letting you know that the number that Jody has for you. This 256-4-2-26-5-8-7-1.

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