Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 659 | Never Believe What They Tell You… | Guest: Peter McIndoe

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

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wherever you're at. We know that gas prices are at an all-time high, well, at least in the last, within the last seven years. And we also know that AAA is already saying that they're going to increase 10 to 20 cents through the end of August from the current national average of $3.13 a gallon. So that makes me wonder why cities, in particular, the ones that I drive through at 433 a.m. in the morning, allow, lights to be red and have multiple cars sitting in the road idling, wasting expensive gas with no cars crossing those intersections. It is unbelievable to me. There are multiple lights on a particular drive that I take. And I'm sure it happens all over America because I know that this is a way

for them to enhance their revenue because people are going to run the red light. And how do I know this? Because there's one light that I ready, I ready my accelerator to run this light. But I know in that neck of the woods, there's a police officer just waiting for me to run that light so he can give me a ticket.

And I was most particularly right this morning because there he sat with his lights off, just up the road away is waiting for someone to run that light. Instead of why aren't these lights blinking caution and blinking red? It's 4.33 a.m. in the morning. It's a crime for these lights to have a dozen cars. A dozen cars stopped at this light, idling, wasting gas, and there's not one car coming through the intersection.

It is embarrassing. And what happens, I know, that cars do come up out of these neighborhoods, and they come up and they stop, and there's no traffic, and they make it right. But it signals the light to turn. And instead of just turn quick and back to the main road, it runs full cycle. It makes no sense. whatsoever to have a light run full cycle in the middle of the night. All it's doing is wasting people's money.

So I just wanted to take this opportunity to please, please city managers across America, in fact, around the world while we're at it listening to Chewing the Fat. How about you fix the issue with your roadway lights? at least from, let's say, 11 p.m. to 6 a.m.? How about just 11 p.m. to 5 a.m. The main roads in your cities turn to blinking red and blinking caution on the main road. So that everybody knows the lights are still there, and they have to come up and stop on the side road,

and they're able to go, and they continue but cautiously through that intersection on the main road. Okay? Okay, then. Let's take care of that, shall we? Welcome. Welcome to chewing the fat. Well, I see Elsa has made landfall in the armpit of Florida.

Not a bad thing. It's just when you look at Florida. It's, you know, the armpit of Florida, Taylor County. and it's racing across the northeast as we speak. So nice of Elsa to join us. It never did strength into a hurricane yesterday and then it went back down to a tropical storm because it just kept brushing up against the coast of Florida

and it wasn't going to gain much strength. And I see where, even though there was a tropical storm slash hurricane going on, the National Hockey League said, yeah, we're still going to go. play the game tomorrow. Yeah, there's probably zero chance of postponing the game. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's the Stanley Cup. And now the storm's going to be long gone, and we're going to go ahead and play the game.

Sure, there's a couple of things that we've got scheduled outside around the arena. We'll cancel those, but we're still going to play the game. I tell you what, I believe that I'll bet you, I'll bet you that some of those outside events happened now. Because the storm's passed. Didn't look like there was a whole lot of damage. I mean, you know, it's a tropical storm slash hurricane, a lot of rain.

And by this evening, if you're listening live on the 7th of July, 2021, by this evening, I'm guessing that a lot of that flooding will have gone down and people will be headed to the arena for the championship game.

because the Lightning are up three games to two, and they could win at home. And so it'll be exciting in Tampa Bay when the Lightning bring home back-to-back championships. I know. I know. I'm looking forward to it. So yesterday we talked a little bit about, well, we talked about Elsa as well, which is why I was bringing it up.

But we talked about Jeff Bezos and his last days at Amazon and of course he's got his new title, you know, executive chairman, whatever. I mean, he's still, you know, he's going to have an office and he's going to have, you know, come to a couple of meetings every now and then. But that's, you know, that will be his involvement. However, in the story, it talked about his 10,000 year clock. And I still, I just, I'm like, what? A 10,000 year clock yet, the clock of the long now.

All right. So it's going to tell time. the next 10,000 years. It's cost $42 million to build so far, and they're still spending money. The huge mechanical clock ticks once per year, chimes once per millennium, and it's being built by Jeff Bezos and his millionaire scientist friend Danny Hillis, and along with Xander Rose and the whole clock team. It's 500 feet tall.

all mechanical, powered by day-night thermal cycles, synchronized at solar noon. It's a symbol for long-term thinking, the 10,000-year clock. Well, that's why it's called the clock of the long now. And I'm like, wait, what is the clock of the long now? So the Long Now Foundation was established in 1996 to fostering. long-term thinking and responsibility in the framework of the next 10,000 years.

Okay. I'm willing to bet that Mr. Bezos has given quite a bit of money to the longnow. Dot org Foundation. Guaranteed. But now he's building a clock, the clock of the long now. I mean, it's out in the middle of West Texas. I mean, way out in the middle of nowhere. Jeff bought property out there.

I'm sorry, Mr. Bezos, bought property out there. And when they explain where it's at, they talk about the nearest airport is several hours away by car. So it's way the heck out there in West Texas. According to this, visiting the clock is going to take some commitment. The nearest airport, several hours away by car. the foot trail to the clock is rugged, rising almost 2,000 feet above the valley floor. So you're going to have to make a small commitment to get there.

They've been building this clock since 2018, and there's no end in sight. So it's going to take, you know, I don't know if, you know, maybe it will take another 10,000 years to build this thing. I doubt it. So I don't know that it's ever going to be an actual, you know, monument. to go and visit out in West Texas, although it would be kind of cool to go and look at a clock that does nothing except wait for, you know,

the millennium to chime and it's going to, you know, tick once per year. I'd like to know when it's going to tick. So maybe we can all go. out there and just hang out. And we're being part of the Long Now Foundation and just stand around.

And here comes. Here comes. Okay, come back in another 10,000 years. And I don't know if it's going to sound like that. I mean, it may be or, I mean, that sounds more like the 10,000 year clock, the clock of the long now. Okay, come back in 10,000 years. Maybe a cowbell?

No. Nah, that's no good. Oh, maybe the... No, I think it's going to be this one. Yeah, I think that's it. All right, here we go. We're out here at the clock of the long now, and it's going to tick.

Right now, it ticks once a year. Here we go. Here comes the yearly tick. Okay. See you in another year. Take care. See you in 9,999 years. when it's going to, you know, chime.

Oh, yeah, that's the chime. Wait, that's the 10,000 year one. So it only, it ticks. It ticks once a year. What am I thinking? It actually may be. Yeah, it may actually be that once a year. And then 10,000 years.

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products. Their argument is that it's going to further hurt their business while doing a little to drive down tobacco use. Uh, yeah. So Washington, D.C., the city council, voted eight to five to approve a bill that bans tobacco products, flavored tobacco products, including those containing menthol. And the great mayor, Ariel Bowser, is expected to sign the bill into law. Now, one of the store owners said that they're taking out essentially 40% of my business.

Uh, yeah, this person owns three gas stations and convenience stores in the area. Uh, if I don't sell it, I'll just lose business to the suburbs. Yeah. One owner said we haven't fully recovered from pre-pandemic levels, and with the band, we'll never fully recover. The band is going to affect more than just the sale of tobacco, duh. people when you smoke you go to places and you stop in and you get your gas and you buy a pack of smokes or a couple of packs of smokes and you maybe pick up a soda you get a coffee you get something to eat a sandwich whatever and then you're gone right but if you don't have an opportunity and i've known this

since i stopped smoking uh you know the places that i used to go to get cigarettes and get gas i don't go there anymore. That's not their fault. It's just that I don't smoke. So I go to other places that are a little bit more convenient, but I don't care about prices on cigarettes

because I don't buy them. Yet I could fire up one right now. I just fire up a cigarette right now. But I'm not going to, so just leave me alone. It would be nice, though. It would be

really, really nice. Just a brand new fresh lighter, fresh pack of cigarettes. Fire that bad boy up and just I know it wouldn't be as good as I think it would be, but

it still be pretty darn good. Anyway, I know you don't go there. So that's what this guy is saying. If they're banning it, people aren't going to go there. They're just going to go somewhere else, which by the way is just across the border. Yeah, that's right. right. They're going to go just across the border to Maryland and Virginia where they can get

the menthol cigarettes, and while we're there, we'll go ahead and get my gas and my sandwich and my sodas at that particular convenience store. According to the one store, the gas volume has dropped by nearly a third when the $5 per pack tax the city government imposed on cigarettes, in October of 2018. So they're already, they're already having their convenience stores take a hit with the $5 a pack tax. Holy cow.

I didn't even know that. A $5 a pack tax by the city government. Wow. And he's losing a third of his business. Yeah, because they're going to Maryland and Virginia. Wow. So they're just one.

They're trying to put these people out of business. And obviously that's not their goal outwardly, but they know it's going to kill these people's businesses. Plus, illegal sales are going to go up. And they have gone up since the $5 tax went into effect. And that's what I mean. We're just setting up for the mafia to come in and not only sell cigarettes, but you go in and for anyone. You could go across to Virginia or Maryland and buy cheaper cigarettes and bring them back into Washington, D.C.

Isn't that what Eric Garner got into trouble for in New York, by the way? When the police, I'm sorry, when he died after the police officer put him in a chokehold because he was selling illegal cigarettes, I think so. I think so. So anyway, just really, really, really weird. And I don't understand why they want to put these businesses out of business. but they do. And they hurt themselves in the long run.

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hello to the chewing the fat listeners in Iceland in June last month

86% of Iceland's working population you're on a path to working a

day work weeks with no reduction in pay nice i want to pat you on the back it gives you more time to listen than chewing and that's a good idea so it uh i guess we have now we have to could be concerned with that's what we're going to start doing is having four day work weeks uh as long as there's no reduction in pay why wouldn't you want to do that and if it doesn't hurt your productivity right so they did a recent study that tracked 2,500 employees whose work week was shortened to 35 to 36 hours over five days. And they found that a four-day week with the same pay improved workers' well-being and productivity. Right. And plus, if I'm working four days a week, I can still put in the 10 hours or the eight, nine hours a day,

Right. And do the work. And knowing that I've got three days coming up, that's a good deal. That's a really good deal. And, you know, we came out of the pandemic with so many people working from home. There's so many companies now that are trying to experiment with how they're going to, how they're going to come back with workers, how much time the workers are going to spend at the actual place, how much time they have to spend at home, what type of time.

of meetings they're going to have. So we'll see how that works out. But right now I'm a fan of you, Iceland. Thank you. Thank you for listening to Chewing the Fat. And thank you for being the brainchild of the four-day work week. I know. I know.

And as soon as the, you know, we have this overwhelming success in Iceland. Yeah. The four-day work week is going to have traction around the world. So you guys are on the forefront of that. Also, did you see that Rupert Murdoch is planning to launch Fox Weather, 24-hour weather streaming channel? Not a bad idea. This should have already happened a long time ago. Fox Weather.

I mean, the Weather Channel, according to this, their audience grew 7% this past year. Look, the Weather Channel, people watch because of, I don't know, there's a thing called the weather. And we all want to know it, especially when there's storms. It's storm season. That's why everybody has Operation Stormwatch. Fox Weather.

So when there's storms, you want to know it. And that's what local radio is all about. But when you're stuck at home during these storms, a lot of times unless you've been evacuated, you want to know. And if you're not in the area of the storm, you want to be able to be updated. You want to be able to see, wow, those people got it really bad there, man.

It sucks to be them, doesn't it? Otherwise, the weather channel. Plus, the weather channel has come up with some really cool graphics and how they've handled their storms, and they've got some, you know, front-running meteorologists that people have become fans of around the country, right? I mean, the joke of, what's his face? Cantori, if he shows up in your neighborhood,

you should have been gone yesterday. I mean, that's a fact. So, I don't know, it might be good. I'd like to say that I wouldn't mind being the voice of Fox Weather. So, Rupert, give me a call here at Chewing the Fat. I'm happy to be the voice of Fox Weather, 24-hour weather, keeping you safe when you don't feel. safe. No, we want you to feel safe

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IKEA, bring home to life. So a while ago, we talked a little bit about birds aren't real. And I wanted to, and I had the question in my mind, wait, what? And so I wanted to talk to the man himself, Peter McAdoo. How in the world are you? Welcome to chewing the fat. Birds aren't real. Welcome, sir.

Thank you. Thanks for having me. Looking forward to sharing our truth here. Absolutely. So you're on the road now. And, you know, you're promoting it. Obviously, people can go to the website, Birds Aren't Real.com and get all the information that they need.

You were just coming off of, at the time of this interview, the Independence Day weekend, and you had a big gathering in St. Louis, Missouri. How did that go? It went excellent. We had over 250 bird truthers come out to March the streets of St. Louis, with us, which was a really beautiful event, seen everyone come together like that.

We're in the process of holding these rallies city by city, and that was our second one of the summer so far. It just seems to be gathering more and more people as we go so far. What's next on the agenda for the Birds Out Real tour stop? So we're looking at Oklahoma as our next stop, sort of making a circle around the south right now. We've hit Springfield, Missouri and St. Louis. So next stops, I think, will be Tulsa and Oklahoma City before heading into Texas,

which will be a big, a big part of the tour. Nice. Well, I'd like to, I may show up for that. I mean, if you're going to be in the DFW area, that's where we're at, man. I'd like to have that. I'd like to see it in action. So what do you say, you know, what do you say to the people that say, Peter? Come on, man.

Birds are real. You know they're real. You're just pulling our feathers telling us that birds aren't real. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, that's, as you can imagine, something I hear a lot. Yeah. You know, that's a common conversation for me. And, you know, I used to be angry about that and be kind of get upset whenever someone. Because, you know, what's a bigger insult to somebody than...

Call you a liar. Yeah, implying that they're a liar or that there's some kind of joke or a clown or something. So it used to annoy me, but I have gotten to the point where I just have compassion and empathy. There was a long time in my life where I was too kind of blinded and lost to the truth and was just very inundated in a world of propaganda. And it was very kind of just brainwashed by this preferred agenda that we hear so often in the media and in pop culture. You know, people trying to, who would have to shove this, you know, kind of bird messaging in your face, whether it's the Twitter logo or the national mascot or the state birds or, you know, multiple sports teams mascots. So, I mean, I get it.

I get that there's a lot of people that believe that birds are real. I was one of them once. So to the people that, you know, say, I'm a liar or the joke or something, I often just take a step back. and try to empathize with their perspective, you know, and that this is something that's very... Yeah, absolutely. So on top of which, really, nobody, if they're confronting you,

getting angry back at them isn't going to convince them that birds are not real, right? I mean, so the better focus is to have examples ready for them and hopefully bring them over, right? to bring them over to the feather side. And, or, I mean, bird side or whatever side is saying that birds aren't real. So I know that you're getting ready to do a birds aren't real kind of TED talk, a bird talk. Give me a brief one here on chewing the fat.

Just like a, you know, a couple of minute, a couple of minute version of the bird talk to me. Bring me over. Bring me over. Okay. Well, you know, let's see. I think that it really goes down to how you, Jeff, how you define truth in your life. Okay. How you define what is reality and what separates truth from lie, truth from untruth. And, you know, if we can get on the same page there to begin with, then at least we know kind of what language we're speaking here. I think a lot of people nowadays define truth by their sources. I think truth is largely a faith game in the modern day where I have my sources and I have faith in them and that other people have their sources and they have faith in them. You know, other people, you know, and it really is a faith game.

It's okay. We have to have our own faith in our own independent fact checkers. No doubt about that. Exactly. So, you know, I know that a lot of people, you know, growing up, they're born into the world and they're told, hey, birds are real. This, you know, it's kind of the first thing that they're said. There's a lot of societies throughout history where there's been something told to the culture and the group of people of people that then as history progressed or as time progresses, history kind of sheds a different light upon that truth that these people believes, you know, that there was, you know, that for instance, you know, a thunderstorm. storms were, you know, the gods mad at them or something. Right. There's different things that different societies believe, um, that then historically, you look

back and say, wow, you know, they just, that was just the world they were in. Right. They believed it because that's the world they were in. Right. I think that's where we're at, um, with the, with the bird problem in the world that we're living in right now where we're in, we're in America. And, um, you know, everyone is born into this world. It's taught in schools.

that birds are real, they're flying in the sky, and no one's ever taught to question that or maybe ask why. You know, why may, you know, why are, why are birds all around me all the time? Why have I never been taught that there may be another side of this argument that maybe, you know, that these, that these birds are not in fact living things, you know, what if there's, there's a possibility that the government has something to do with this. And maybe it's exactly what the government wants is that no one's asking questions about that. So, okay, so I'm cutting you off from your bird talk. I'm sorry, just for a moment.

But what do you say to the, let's say the people that, you know, I had not long ago had a bird, real or not, fly up under my overhang of my back porch where a ceiling fan is and put together a desk. and all of a sudden there are some sort of new bird hatched. I don't know if it hatched or how it arrived there, but there were little baby birds there. You're saying that those aren't real.

Not some birds aren't real, but all of the birds that I see aren't real. Is that right? Yes. I'm saying that every single one of the 12 billion estimated birds in the United States are artificial surveillance drones, built to be indistinguishable from a real bird. You know, and that's obviously a bold claim.

You know, that's not a lot of people are caught up in these very socio-normative paths of thought. You know, they'll just listen to anything that they're told on TV or on Twitter or the media, you know, oh, birds are so real. And, you know, they're, you know, they're so cute and cuddly and they're not surveillance drones watching me. And, you know, what I say to that is that, I don't know if you know the history of birds aren't real. or of our movement or what we talk about. Do you know anything? Very little, very little. A little about what I read this past week, you know, to talk to you.

So let me have it. Let me have it. Bring me to the dark side, to the bird's side. Peter McAdo. Birds Aren't Real.com. So when the government started killing off the birds systemically, it was in 1959. So this was a little more than a decade after the end of World War II. and the U.S. government was looking for different ways to increase surveillance on communist activities in America to make sure things didn't get out of control here. It was largely told

to people within the highest ranks of the government that, you know, this is safety of the people, you know, that, you know, we need to surveil, you know, these people to make sure that nothing happened under our watch and in our own country. So they were experimenting with some different ways to do this and eventually landed upon, we have these birds everywhere all the time. And eventually it started off in a way kind of smart, admittedly. They were realizing that birds very high up in the sky to the naked eye are really just specks up in the air, very high up. You can't really make out others.

It's just kind of a speck and has a slight shape of a bird. So their initial plan was, okay, let's make a, you know, a robotic. flying sort of like a small plane that looks like a bird from the ground, but that has a camera in it, so that then, you know, people wouldn't know from the ground, but they are being watched from very high up with the zoom camera. So it started off there, and then they started realizing that they could have the most advanced thorough surveillance network ever. That is before cell phones were introduced.

Oh, our technology got better. Absolutely. In the 20th century. So if you think about how they are using cell phones and laptops and how the NSA is using all of this and probably watching our conversation right now, maybe if we can extrapolate from that and think, okay, so that's what they would have done had the internet existed in the 60s and 50s. What's a different way that they could get at equal level? It's clear that the goal is thorough surveillance of citizens, right? It's clear that the goal is that the government wants to have tabs on what you're doing. doing on what I'm doing, on what everyone's doing all the time. But 50 years before the internet,

they had to find a different way to do this. So they saw that birds are everywhere. They see that they are, everyone that no one's questioning when a bird's nearby. You know, if you're having a private conversation and then, and then, you know, a little blackbird lands on the gate next to you, you're not going to be concerned. As concerned about that as if there were a man with a camera watching there, right? So that, that, That began in 1959 a whole system of the government killing off real organic birds with a, with a weaponized virus actually that was sprayed from crop duster planes. There was a drought happening in the in the U.S. in the late 50s.

And so the excuse that they told the pilots in the crop duster planes were, you know, we need to water the country. we need to we need to fight against this drought so internally within the CIA the killing of the birds was known as Operation Water the Country it was done by Alan Doolis at the CIA was the director of the time

and slowly this virus spread across the species and as the birds if this is a video on it this is a podcast or a video but as the number of birds went down, they were starting to instill the artificial birds at the same time. So there's kind of this great viewpoint where there wouldn't be a noticeable decline or a noticeable influx of birds. Right.

Yes. I got you. So as they started introducing these birds and killing those off some people, the original members of our movement found out in the late 60s, A lot of people don't know this just because of the Internet and things like that. A lot of people are just now finding out about the birds aren't real movement. But it has existed in some level since 1976. So is this just a United States-based movement?

I mean, I know that other countries, obviously, are believers in birds. So there must be a movement outside of this country as well. Yes or no? So we hope so. I mean, that's the thing. I don't speak about anything, and I encourage, you know, the other bird truthers like myself to really not speak about anything that we couldn't prove in a court of law, you know, show substantial evidence for.

So I can't speak about other countries just given that I don't have the evidence for that. I haven't seen it. But what I do know is that countries like China and India have both come out publicly and said that they have surveillance drones designed to look like birds. Any of your listeners can look this up. China specifically has come out and said they have bird drone surveillance. We don't know what level. We don't know if it's like it in the States.

But while the Chinese government can come out and say that, you know, the American government can't. So what we're seeing there is- We're already surveilling the country. I mean, our major cities are, you know, bombarded with cameras. Yourself on- Every corner. Yeah.

Yeah, we're carrying surveillance with us everywhere we go. no question. Exactly. So that's why when people, because a lot of people when they hear my belief system or my friends and group, it's often,

and it might just be a result of how, you know, divisive this country has become, but a lot of people would just shut it down right away, laugh it off, say stupid and crazy. But when you actually get into it

and, you know, talk to one of us, you see where a lot of rational people that simply have different sources than y'all might, you know? So we're talking to Peter McAdoo. Birds Aren't Real. Birds Aren't Real.com

is the website you can go to for more information. And they're, of course, on tour right now around the country. So you may or may not have an opportunity to see an event live, which, you know, I would, I would recommend going to. I see, what's the end game? Peter, what's the end game? You're making people aware that birds aren't. real. So when I go to,

when I go through the Wendy's drive-thru and the Mexican restaurant is next door and there's what appears to be hundreds, if not thousands of, of crows and blackbirds flying around. And you're saying that those aren't real. Those are surveillance birds.

Figuring at watching me order my Frosty and fries. What's the end game? What are we hoping to achieve by alerting everyone? And what do we hope to achieve once we are alerted. I'm not sure what the endgame is. That's a great question. So, you know, the purpose of our movement right now is to spread awareness, let people know what kind of

world that they're living in. If you want any change in a true republic or democracy, you need the voice of the people behind you. You need a change in public opinion if you want any real legislation to happen or change. And so, I mean, our end goal is, of course, a deactivation of all 12 billion bird drones in our skies. You know, we often say at rallies, sort of as a rallying cry, you know, we will not stop until all 12 billion birds have been deactivated in our falling like rain from the skies. Because then, hopefully we can start the process of repopulation. Has that process been started?

It has not been started intentionally solely because we only know of a couple living real organic birds alive still in the States. So we know that there are through some recent email leaks that came out earlier this year in the poultry gate leaks. I don't know if you heard about that. It was reported on by Newsweek and some other publications. There was an email leak that came out with some high-ranking government officials and Hollywood elites talking about the bird-drawn surveillance topic very intimately, revealing interesting information. and very notably mentioning that there are

maybe one or two chickens still alive under the Pentagon. Okay, that are not the drones, right? That are legitimately chickens. Yes, the thing that's interesting about the elites and the government is it's not just about the surveillance. There's also seems to be some sort of obsession with the avian.

species. So it's come out through these emails that a lot of high-ranking Hollywood elites are what are known as ornithophiles. They love birds and they're obsessed with bird drones. They can't get enough of them. And so I think that there's a certain level to them. We're keeping some of the real birds alive is pleasing to these people. Some of these elites, I mean, it goes from, you know, the biggest daylisters you know of. You know, Typennington, Extreme Home Home Makeover. You know, a lot of Tayao Cruz, big hip-hop star made the song Dynamite. A lot of people like this, even the band Imagine Dragons, it's all the top people in the industry are a part of this.

And when you look at these email leaks and the evidence, I mean, it's shocking, frankly. Peter McAdoe, birds aren't real. One more time. So your next event is in Oklahoma, or at least that's what you're planning on, right? So we can get more information at Birds Aren't Real.com. Yep. We will be updating our social media as Birds Aren't Real on everything. So the official plan will be public soon.

Right. I keep mentioning the website, but you're also on Twitter for sure. And I'm guessing Facebook and Instagram at Birds Aren't Real. So how many people now are officially in the Birds Aren't Real movie? movement if there is an official list of any kind? So, I mean, if we're talking pure social following, you know, pure people that are following on social media, we have well over a million and a half people.

Okay. That are that are following, that are part of this. We have 500,000 followers on Reddit, 500,000 followers on TikTok, 325,000 followers on Instagram and then, you know, tens and tens of thousands on Twitter and Facebook. Sure. So, I mean, if you're counting that,

there are a lot of people, you know, this is not some fringe. You know, a lot of people in the media like to just immediately debunk something as a conspiracy. Or, you know. It's easy to dismiss things if you just call it a conspiracy. You call it a conspiracy, a joke. It's a very easy way to delegitimize about

of somebody's, you know, it's very easy to dismiss somebody else's truth by simply calling it or a joke. And that, oh, it's delegitimized. You don't even listen to them. But it's like, no, we have something very valid to say. So, I mean, you can find us there. Our TikTok has been out of some trouble.

It got banned yesterday and reinstated today. So who knows if we'll be on there a whole lot longer. What the heck happened? Man, these big tech companies don't like, don't like truth. You know, these big tech. companies if you get out there and say something. And that's honestly the biggest, you know, that's just proof to us, that emboldens us, say, wow, we're getting on here and saying the birds or robots, if that were just a

joke or so, or so, or just something that was. Why are they dismissing it? Why are you trying to take us down? Yeah. So, you know, there's been issues there. In terms of the inside of the movement, though, going back to your question about numbers. Yeah. You know, because those are followers of us on social media.

I don't know if those are all through the show. I know that there's a lot of people in the, in the couple of generations above me, maybe my dad's age, that have been aware of things like this since the 80s, since, you know, when the movement began in 1976. I know that we have a boots on the ground activism network that's spreading the word about this called the Bird Brigade. I'm in a Bird Brigade member's home right now who that, the numbers for those are, are, over 500 people in the states are out putting up flyers for us. And, you know, we're going to actively working for the movement. Yeah. Actively working for the movement. Yes, sir. Yeah.

That's fantastic. Yeah, the numbers are strong and growing every day. That's fantastic. Peter McAdoe, birds aren't real. You can get all the information at Birds Aren't Real.com or follow any of the events on all the social media platforms. Thank you for joining me on Chewing the Fat today. Any other breaking news you want to get out today? Are you good? I would like to leave people with a couple things to keep in the back of their mind. If it flies, it spies, birdwatching goes both ways, and don't trust the disguise. Keep asking why and never believe what they tell you.

So that's the only thing I'll say. Peter McAdoe on chewing the fat. Thank you. Thank you very much. Stream and subscribe to more Blaze Media content at the blaze.com slash podcast. I mean, I kind of like that. If it flies and spies, birdwatching goes both ways. Don't trust the skies.

Keep asking why. Never believe what they tell you. I got to tell you, Peter McAdoo, I like those lines. So never believe what they tell you. You know, unless it's chewing the fat or my. Twitter page at Jeffrey JFR or my Instagram or Facebook page, Jeff Fisher Radio. Never believe anything else, though.

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