Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Ep 870 | It's Fun, Till It's Not...

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

IPOD is history Police run over sunbather… Casey White claims he didn’t do it… N Korea not gen x friendly… Mexico journalist killings… Britney getting naked… Subscribe to the YouTu...be Channel… Subscribe www.blazetv.com/jeffy / Promo code jeffy… Email Chewingthefat@theblaze.com Netflix looking at ad tier by the end of this year… Grindr going public… Carvana lays off and buys… Prince Charles covers for mom...  A look into Crypto and the future… Chuck Palm, Vertisan, Chief Communications Officer https://vertisan.com/    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:36 So Apple has discontinued the iPod after 20 years. So you'd think that people would be more bummed than they are, but they're not. I mean, that's probably why they're just cutting it out. Because nobody really cares anymore, do they? I mean, they've, according to Apple, we've integrated our music experience across all of our products, from the iPhone to the Apple Watch, to the HomePod Mini, and across Mac, iPad, and Apple TV. And we deliver industry-leading sound quality with support for spatial audio. There's no better way to enjoy, discover, and experience music.
Starting point is 00:01:26 But for many of us, October 2001, when Steve Jobs debuted the original iPod, the first MP3 player that could hold a thousand songs and had a 10-hour battery life. It was something. I mean, then we had the MP3 players released Microsoft and Sony. They didn't have the same success as the iPod. And I remember getting the first iPod that we had. I think I still have the original at the house somewhere in a box. I couldn't tell you when the last time was. We used it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But just incredibly, something like that you think was so huge, so huge. And now it's just dust. Just trash. Let's sweep it up with the trash because we don't need that anymore. Have a nice day. So if you're still using your iPod, the latest, I think the seventh, edition series in the series of iPods. Time's up.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Sorry. Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just letting you know. Welcome. Welcome to chewing the fat. I always hated that saying. Don't shoot the messenger. Of course you shoot the messenger.
Starting point is 00:02:52 That's why you send a messenger. It doesn't, never made any sense to me. The king sends messengers because if something happens to the messenger, oh well, darn the luck. Well, you know, I mean, I get the saying from the messenger, hey, don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. But it's just trying to save his own life. Anyway, you know, let's say you are, ah, you're down in Florida and you're just hanging out on the beach. For example, let's say St. Pete Beach, there in Pinellas County.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I've been there a bunch. I love St. Pete Beach. I used to work on St. Petersburg Beach. Love it. But apparently, you know, they like to have the police vehicles driving on the beach now for safety purposes. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, the safety didn't really work well this time because there was a lady just sunbathing on the old beach hanging out,
Starting point is 00:03:50 laying on her back, and Beach Patrol. car rolled up and was facing west and the deputy was speaking to several pedestrians on the beach and then a 911 call came in and dispatched him to another location and he makes a right turn from his parked position oops oh boom boom was that a was that a 23 year old laying on her back in the sand uh he drives over the sunbather He drives over her right side and mid to upper back area. She sustained non-life-threatening injuries and was transported to the hospital. Yeah, she also sustained the beach will be named after her injuries.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Wow. Hello, Mr. Police officer, you forgot that the body was there? You just thought, yeah, I can go anywhere I want. I have a police car. Nope, there's a human there. Now, it would be a bummer if you were laying out the beach and got run over. No question about that. But, I mean, hopefully she's okay.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I know, well, I mean, she suffered non-life-threatening injuries. So, you know, maybe she has Firestone embedded onto her right side. That's it, though. You're fine. That Tahoe didn't weigh too much, did it? Get out of here. And I see they've released the footage now of the arrest. of the fugitives in Indiana, the Alabama fugitives,
Starting point is 00:05:29 the inmate Casey White and his Vicki White, no relation, the sheriff's office assistant director of commune corrections, which I don't think she was anymore, but anyway, you know, they had the, I mean, it was a 10-day multi-state manhunt, and we talked yesterday about them finally capturing them, apprehending them and she died from a gunshot wound to the head after a police crash in Evansville and you see the footage of them arresting Casey White and one of the things that
Starting point is 00:06:05 he kept saying was y'all help my wife so apparently they he believes they're married and she shot herself in the head I didn't do it I didn't do it okay uh I mean mean, there's no evidence that they're married, although, you know, I guess it's possible that they could have, you know, pretended to be married, I guess, I don't know. But, I mean, more will come out. We'll see. We have his word to go on of what happened. But he, you know, said, I didn't do it. And, you know, the guy is up for murder already. So you'd think that if he actually did murder her, he would say, yeah, I killed her. But nope, he kept saying, nope, I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Help my wife. She shot herself in the head. I didn't do it. But he waved extradition and he's on his way back to Alabama. They said he'd never going to get out of the sheriff in Alabama said he's never going to get out of that prison again. He's going to be, according to the reports, he's going to be in shackles in the cell. And he's going to be in solitary. in shackles inside the cell.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Uh, the cell. So, all right. Good luck, Casey. Good luck. God bless. Speaking of needing some good luck and maybe some blessings from God, uh, if you were, uh, planning on visiting North Korea, I know.
Starting point is 00:07:45 If you were thinking to yourself, you know, why don't I just go to North Korea for a little fun? I mean, hello. He's got rockets and bombs shooting off, internet restrictions, pixelated porn. So now they're saying that North Korea is maybe the most unwelcoming to Gen X. Oh, no. Because of newfound restrictions on fashion. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Oh, no. Kim Jong-ung has banned tight pants, dyed hair, particular hair lengths and clothing that features large foreign wording. Oh, no. So if you were, you know, a Gen Xer thinking that, you know, what we ought to do is go to North Korea. Wouldn't that be fun? Instead of going to the horrible United States Florida beaches for spring break, let's go to North Korea, okay? but you can't wear your skinny jeans,
Starting point is 00:08:49 you can't wear your hoodies, you can't wear your man buns. I know. So according to Radio Free Asia, who doesn't love Radio Free Asia, the country considers the above-mentioned fashions capitalistic and does not want their country associated with such.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah, the Socialist Patriotic Youth League's patrol, are cracking down on young people who wear long hair down to their waist and those who dye their hair brown, as well as people who wear clothes with large foreign letters and women who wear tight pants. You don't want none of the socialist patriotic youth league cracking down on you. Huh, socialist patriotic youth league.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That sounds almost like another country that had that. I don't remember what it was, though. I feel like it was in Germany at one time. Was it Germany? I don't remember. The Socialist Patriotic Youth League regularly patrols, and they do not want to see anybody who's looking out of place. You got it?
Starting point is 00:10:02 I don't want to see wrong-length hairs, dyed hairs, crotch compressing pants. And often, the result is. are going to be reported to your employer. I thought the government was the employer of everyone. So if they're part of the socialist patriotic youth league and they're busy patrolling the streets, they're just reporting it to the government. I'm sure you're lucky to be making it out of there alive.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Are those skinny jeans dead? I know. I mean, I don't want that to happen to you, but it could. So if you're planning on your trip to North Korea, for spring break. I wouldn't plan on those beach bikinis. Ooh, my friend, leave those at home. Before we head into the break room,
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Starting point is 00:13:20 funny. It's only funny to me in a sick way. So, you know, am I going to apologize for it being funny to me? No, not really. So two journalists were shot to death in Mexico this week. Okay, so that's terrible. And raising the total number of slain. journalists in the country to 11 this year.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's the deadliest year for journalists in Mexico. It's so sad. It's so sad. Now, you say, well, Jeff, well, you said something that was funny. Well, 200 journalists are gathered in Mexico City to protest against a series of slayings criticizing the state and federal governments for not sufficiently investigating and preventing such deaths. Yeah, they're protesting in Mexico City
Starting point is 00:14:08 And so You're a journalist And you're out there on the street in Mexico You're getting shot We don't want you any journalists around here Oh, okay Yeah, I mean, we just drop them off In a dirt road in the Sinaloa
Starting point is 00:14:25 And there you go They're there for you Don't worry about it So again, it's not funny It's just sick funny All these journalists are down there you know, to protest the journalist killings and they still get killed. So Mexico needs to do something, man.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I don't know what it is. I know it's considered one of the most dangerous countries for journalists. Yeah. No kidding. You can't even protest in Mexico. Say something bad will still kill you. So, complain to me again how bad the United States is. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Tell me how bad the U.S. is. Go ahead. you know what let's go to the break room I'll get something cold to drink because I need something cold to drink desperately you can explain to me how terrible the United States of America is while journalists who are in Mexico protesting about journalists getting killed are getting killed
Starting point is 00:15:19 go ahead go ahead I'll wait I'm gonna get something to drink so you see the naked dump by Britney Spears on the old Instagram account I know. Now, I know she's only got 41 million followers. But she's, and she's not, you know, she's covering eyes. She has her hands on her breaths.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And there's a little heart, you know, in the middle part of where the female body is. You know, in the old Vagge area. But she went crazy. She started posting all these naked pics because that's what she was taking naked pics in Mexico. Before she got pregnant. And she just wanted to see that she looked so happy and she looked 10 years younger while she was on vacation and everything's fine. And then I was looking going through her Instagram account and Mother's Day, she talks about not even being able to get out of bed. She talked about how I had a migraine in the past two days and I couldn't get out of bed.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I couldn't be exposed to light or I felt like I would pass out. This is the worst. So I slept for two days. I was out cold for Mother's Day. and then she said, I'm sorry I'm a day later so, but anyways, this video made me cry. And it's a little, you know, Mother's Day video. But this is what you're in for, new hubby, baby daddy. What's your stupid name?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Sam Agashari. Good luck. Good luck. God bless with that because Brit is, you're going to have fun until you're not. And you can quote me on that. that is what happens with Brittany Spears. You're going to have fun until you're not. So I see where our friends at Netflix are saying that they're going to start cracking down on password sharing.
Starting point is 00:17:18 They keep throwing that out there. And now that they've, you know, said that they're losing money and subscribers, they think this is a way for them to win people back. No, CEO, Reid Hastings, that is not. they say that now they're talking about an ad tier at some point in the last three months of this year, 2022, because he had said, Reed said, yeah, you know, I'll try to figure it out in the next year or two. We'll try to get to that whole ad-supported thing. Nope.
Starting point is 00:17:49 We're going to make that happen by the end of this year. So you're going to be able, I mean, the prices are going to be, they've already, I already talked about raising their prices. So you're looking at now, let's see, HD Stream. plan with two simultaneous streams 1549 a month. Premium tier, 4K and four simultaneous streams, 1999 in the U.S. And I'm pretty sure that's what I'm paying.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And that's a point now where I'm thinking, you know, maybe I don't need Netflix. $20 a month? Because I'm close. Something's going to give soon. I don't even know this, but everything is costing more. money in in america today i know if you haven't noticed if you haven't gone to the store or anything
Starting point is 00:18:38 sorry i don't mean to break it to you but uh yeah everything is through the roof and uh you know prices are through the roof not pay that's just silly uh it's just silly uh pay but other prices are through the roof so something's going to have to give and everybody thinks they can just keep raising prices and everything will be fine. We'll make our money because we're raising our prices. Uh, no, you won't. No, you won't. How about you offer good services at a reasonable price? Right? I know. It sounds like a shock, but I think that's the way business is supposed to be run. Good services, reasonable price. Huh. Speaking of, you know, good services, reasonable prices.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I see where LGBTQ dating app Grindr go in public. Going public via special purpose acquisition valuing Grindr at $2.1 million. So congratulations to Grindr,
Starting point is 00:19:47 the old LGBTQIA plus friendly dating app. And so, So 2.1 billion for Grindr. Ooh, man, that is pretty impressive. And good news and bad news coming from Carvanna, the used car dealer. It was founded about a decade ago and has, you know, been huge growth.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Said yesterday that, hey, you know what, we're going to lay 2,500 people off. Yeah, and things aren't really going that well. So the executives, yeah, they're not going to get paid for the rest of the year. So you 2,500, you're going to get laid off. Man, the executives, yeah, you're not going to get paid for the rest of the year. Oh, okay. So all impacted team members will have the opportunity to receive four weeks of pay, plus an additional week for every year they've been with Carvana.
Starting point is 00:20:46 They have an opportunity to receive extended health care coverage, pay equal to early vesting of certain previously granted equity awards, recruiting and resume support and continuing participation in certain other company programs. Gosh darn it. That's so nice of them. We believe these decisions, while extremely difficult, will result in Carvana restoring a better balance between its sales volumes and staffing levels and facilitate Carvanna returning to efficient growth on its mission to change the way people buy and sell cars.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So good luck. We just, you know, had to do it. We had to lay those people off and you, you know, you executives are just not going to be able to get any pay for the rest of the year. Okay. Oh, did I mention that the next day, Carvanna reported that they're going to,
Starting point is 00:21:46 they're going to buy vehicle wholesaler, Odessa. U.S. That's the name of it, Dessa U.S. That's a vehicle wholesaler, which operates 56 auction locations across the country.
Starting point is 00:22:01 They're going to buy that for $2.2.2 billion. Oh. Oh. Oh, I thought you were trying to get back to viability. It didn't have any money. You know, you're laying off 2,500 people, and executives for Carvanna aren't going to get paid for the rest of the year. Yeah, this
Starting point is 00:22:18 is separate, though. We're buying another company for $2.2 billion, that's separate. So don't try to bog us down with Carvana not going to, you know, not going to pay the executives or laying off 2,500 people. We're buying this vehicle wholesaler for $2.2 billion, you know, trying to get back on our feet again. Oh. All righty then.
Starting point is 00:22:44 No problem. To all you people that aren't getting paid anymore. You know, the executives who still have a job but aren't getting paid and the 2,500 who don't have a job and are only going to get paid for a few weeks and then they're gone. Don't worry about it because you can probably, you know, maybe apply for a job at the Addessa U.S. And work at the auction house for cheaper than you're making now.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So that's good, right? Right. So just a quick Royals update. I know the queen is struggling and she's looking that they're reporting her that she may advocate the throne and give it to Chuck. And she didn't show up at the opening of parliament the other day. And Chuck showed up for her. And I know she plans, she's got the platinum jubilee coming up. And I think Megan and Harry are going to be there.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And I think they're bringing both the kids. I mean, it's going to be quite an event. So maybe that will end. That'll be the first time she gets to meet the new granddaughter, which I'm all four. I'll still tick that he didn't show up for Christmas. But Chuck opened up Parliament yesterday, I believe. It might have been the day before yesterday. But he is so good.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I mean, he just exudes king. The government's priority is to grow and strengthen the economy and help ease the cost of living for families. Her Majesty's government will level up opportunity in all parts of the country and support more people into work. Ah, good. Her Majesty's ministers will continue to support the police to make the streets safer and fund the National Health Service to reduce the COVID backlogs. Good. In these challenging times, Her Majesty's government will play a leading role.
Starting point is 00:24:48 in defending democracy and freedom across the world. Oh, good. Good, good, good. Now, William was there, and I'm sure William was thinking, Hey, Dad, why don't you just let me take it over? Okay. But no. Nope, Chuck had to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It was his role. So, man, how much do you love King Chuck? I know. Me too. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus, powered by Peloton IQ. Built for breakthroughs with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move.
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Starting point is 00:26:31 is now involved in the world of crypto. And I wanted you to hear what Chuck had to say and see if you can understand where we're headed and what's the future. So the other day I'm perusing some news wires and I see out of my old stomping grounds in Tampa Bay that a friend of mine and a friend of the show is Chuck Palm got a new gig as a,
Starting point is 00:27:01 I mean, I'm sure he has a big sign going into his new office, CCO, the chief communications officer, for a company, a global tech company out of Tampa Bay called Vertison. And then I wondered, well, that's good for Chuck. You know, I'm happy for Chuck to have the new gig. And then I wonder, well, wait a minute, what is Vertism? And so I go to the Verteson website at Verton.com. And I see their architects of amazing thought leaders in tech. technology, innovation, and execution.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Chuck Pump, first. Welcome to chewing the fat. How are you, my friend? I'm wonderful, Jeffie. It's great to talk to you again. That's very good to talk to you as well. I miss seeing you. I miss Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Enough of the love, love. Well, Tampa Bay misses you. I can't say that enough. I know. I know. They call once in a while, too. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:27:56 So what is it that Verdeson does? What is it that they don't do? I am so excited about this job. Verdesen is really a thought leader in some of the new technologies in decentralized finance and, you know, things that are really important to, sorry? No, I can't tell you how much I talk about decentralized finance. Well, you know, it's an everyday occurrence, isn't it? I mean, I know. It's a topic that comes up at lunch, you know. So seriously, now with, all right, just, I know that, you know, crypto is, you know, the world now. Just everyone wants to get in the game. Yeah. And they either, you either have the old school financial people like Buffett who says it's not worth anything or in particular he was referring to Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:28:54 But, you know, he would give you, you know, a dime for it. and but you have many others who are, you know, creating their own. And so is now, Vertison is going to be the go-between with that, or are they going to have their own and create a new driveway? Well, let's put it this way. The things that I can talk about today are going to be a lot different than what I can talk about, say, come July 4th when we have a major announcement. So I'll hint at some of those things, but I will tell you, crypto, as it's basically, today on things like the blockchain. You're familiar with that term from Bitcoin. That's basically the framework. Consider it like the underlying network behind all the Bitcoin transactions.
Starting point is 00:29:39 That's like 12-year-old technology and it's really starting to fail. People are seeing the increasing times for transactions. They're seeing it, you know, trying to buy things with crypto takes forever. The banks aren't verifying very fast. So you have to have an intermediary, like a coin base or somebody, approve the transaction. So it's no different than, say, a visa or another bank card that has come along and said, well, you know, we'll verify it for you, but we really don't know for sure until that clears. And that's a little bit scary. So, you know, when you're putting all of this steam and effort into trying to digitize money, we have to talk about those things. Like, what is the underlying network going to be or how's that going to work? And I think that's where Verdecent is really going to shine. Some of that, you know, Things as simple as like a crypto wallet might be, you know, something that you carry around digitally with you. Well, can you use that offline? Is there a way I can carry that on a card, for example? And, you know, hinting at the future and some of those other things.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That is, that is the future of crypto. We have to treat it like money, but it has to go, you know, beyond the next hundred years. Right. Now, let me, okay, so, I mean, that all sounds great. All right. Hey, I got that part right. Good. I'm all with it.
Starting point is 00:30:56 That sounds wonderful. but I have heard rumblings through other news wires that, you know, governments around the world are not too enthused. Well, it's because governments have their hands in banking and financing, and they like to mess with the loan rates and inflation and things that make it very difficult for the normal people to manage money. And we hope to take that away from them. I'm really excited about the opportunity to decentralize, quote, one of those
Starting point is 00:31:27 opportunities and kind of give the people back their power when it comes to money. Do you honestly believe that that's going to happen? Well, I know it's a fight. I'm down for that fight. I'm really excited about, you know, the technology providing us more power. And now, I mean, you can go back to the music industry and say what happened there when NAFster came along and shook things up. They were the pirates, you know, and they really changed the face of how people get paid,
Starting point is 00:31:57 even the musicians like the system better now until you start involving more of these big multinational corporations that are stealing money out of the pockets of the performers and the people who buy the music. So, you know, when we put the power back in their hands, they got to decide where they get it, how they carry it with them, you know, getting it on demand. That changed music as you and I know it very well. That's for sure. And we, it's funny that we hear so much about the artist that don't like it, but we never hear, you know, stories about how people have adapted and love the system now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:37 We never do. That's really, that's a fascinating angle to that. That's a great point because the overwhelming, we hear from, what, four or five musicians, usually, you know, the big names that are unhappy with the way the system is. But there's plenty of musicians out there that, I mean, we don't hear. And I'm guessing that not everyone is dissatisfied. Well, you know, think about, let's keep that comparison as an example. The banks take anywhere from 1.25 cents, sorry, percent to, you know, percent and a half,
Starting point is 00:33:13 plus 25 cents per every transaction that you go through your own money in your own bank account. And they get the privilege of keeping your money and investing it and making more money off of you. the music industry was no different they got they gave pennies to the artists on royalties when they got airplay or sold a song on an album or a you know CD now that's changed they get anywhere you know and again I'm not a music professional what I know that those numbers have dramatically levelized and even independent artists can make up to you know 30 or 40 cents more per transaction uh why is it we're not giving that back to the people whose money you use you're, you know, using the privilege of spending all of my investments.
Starting point is 00:33:59 When you have these multi, you know, again, multinational banks are the worst because they change money from one currency to another and take a fee for that as well. You know, you sure do. What, now, but what, with crypto, what is it, you know, people are always concerned about it's not worth money. Yes. It's not worth anything. What's it? What are we, what are we going up against? too is am I saying, hey, this crypto is worth what I'll pay you for this clay pot.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And clay pot is who we're basing how much it's worth on. You know, at least with money, presumably. I know it's not true anymore. But you know, you have the gold standard and that's what's going to be. Yeah, that's long gone. I mean, we're just printing it. I mean, we haven't stopped printing. No, it's willy-nilly now.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Whenever they need more, they print more. That's very true. Yeah. So crypto, you know, the best way I can look at crypto is, have you ever had comic books or baseball cards as trading cards? I still do, as a matter of fact, and I'd like to sell you some. Yeah, I'll trade you because I still have a bunch myself. I uncovered a box last week and I said, well, you know what? What are the value of these cards?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Some of them are worth absolutely nothing. They're not worth the cardboard they're printed on. There are others that are worth a couple of hundred bucks because they're a rookie card. They're a special limited edition. They, you know, might have. Now, what's that worth? That worth is what somebody is willing to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Is crypto different than that? Yes, in a sense, it is. But you've heard the term NFT before, right? Yeah. Okay, so a non-fungible token is actually that value basically quantified in a serial number of a specific limited edition trading card. I know. It just happens to live on the web. I know, but there's nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I mean, we're not. those NFTs that are you know were so predominant and they're still you know obviously every they're more more every day yeah I know and I'm disappointed that I do not have one or two or three I really am it was dumb of me not to do that I get it uh and that's because of why I'm living in a you know a single wide trailer now as it is but the point is is that that is also seemingly maybe not falling apart, but certainly downgrading from the original days of what they had anticipated. Well, it's a simple matter of perceived value. Yeah, the perceived value of the NFT that is, you know, a hand-drawn picture of a chimp on a digital drawing,
Starting point is 00:36:37 you know, because of the artist's name maybe or whoever put it out there, they may have some, you know, like a signature on that card, for example, would be more valuable. Remember the stories in New York when people would get famous people's dry cleaning and they'd sign the ticket. And their signature was worth more than the dry cleaning. So they kept it. And then they auctioned it on eBay for 500 bucks. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 All right. So there is a concept of perceived value on NFTs. And a lot of those that came out that were just like, hey, this is cool. Let's make a digital NFT out of whatever. What's the value? There is no value because it's not known. It's not traded. It's not sought after. And it's not rare.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You know, anybody can do these now. So the scarcity, just like money, when there's less money in the economy, it's worth more. And inflation is exactly the opposite of that. So NFTs are kind of inflation proof as long as the perceived value is still there. Now, you know, Michael Jordan may come up with his own NFT one day and have his picture and his stats and make a, you know, a digital card. and MJ23 would be a great digital name to own for training those Michael Jordan cards. But, you know, is he still popular enough? Is the value going to increase or decrease or remain the same?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Well, my point is with that. Okay, so that's great. I love that. All right. So, MJ 23. All right, I would love that. However, you know, so I go online and I look up MJ 23 and I see what he has as an NFT. And I'm seeing the same thing, but I'm not really seeing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Well, yes, because... Not really the same thing. Think of it like digital property like you would on a street. You want to look at maybe buying a house. You drive down the road. You see a for sale sign. You can go up to the house. You can look at the house, you know, ring the doorbell, go inside.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You're seeing the house. It's still just a house on a street, but you don't have the title to it. So it's not your house. You don't have the providence that. proves, you know, I've made this transaction. Now it is solely mine, well, in 30 years when I pay the bank off. You know, and now that property is mine. NFTs are no different. They are our digital properties that we think we have a better way of managing that at Burteson. So, you know, part of that decentralized finance is understanding that process, the perceived value is locked in. And now if I want to sell
Starting point is 00:39:05 that house later, I have to transfer title, do the same kind of process. you would legally. And by the way, secure transactions in crypto are also a big concern. So, you know, we're working at how do you can, how do you actually keep a digital encrypted package secure when there's more than one person involved in the transaction? That kind of work is what we're working on. And again, taking it out of the big players and putting it in the average everyday users hands. You know, you and I might decide we want to invest an NFT together. We go and buy one, but, you know, that's a complicated transaction. It's more than two people. We've addressed that and some of those, you know, concerns about encryption,
Starting point is 00:39:49 security, and so forth. We're not carrying everybody else's transaction on the ledger on our back. We're just worried about our own stuff. So that's what makes it faster and more secure. Does that make sense? Yeah, a little. It's convoluted. It's still very young technology, too, you know. Yeah. I mean, now if I start asking more questions, we're just going to get more into the weeds. And I'm okay with it, but, you know, I don't know how long. How much longer can he hold out, folks?
Starting point is 00:40:22 We can record for another hour and still be, you know, in the weeds. Yeah, do you want to go to something more, you know, light? I just don't feel, you know, there's so many now. I'm okay. We're back to crypto. All right. So there's a ton of different cryptos. And sooner or later, there's going to be someone, something.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And that's, Verdeson is just, you know, they're going to be, you know, being, if I, if you're the company that can do the person to person transaction and keep my security, that's great. Right. I mean, that's what we all want. Right. Perfect. But there still is so many different cryptocurrencies that now you're talking about security between you and me. Right. And security between myself and whatever crypto I want to pay with.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And then crypto to you and the conversion rate of whatever crypto you're paying me and back. Right. So now you're talking about, I mean, there's three or four, maybe even more security rings that we're talking about. You must have read the web pages on that. That's brilliant. We actually call it a ring transaction. Oh, there you go. I've done one of the vertis and plan.
Starting point is 00:41:48 There you are. I need that. Right. I figured it out all by myself. Well, you've done a brilliant job, as always, Jeffrey. And that makes my job easier because a ring transatlant. transaction can involve multiple people. It is secured. The transaction is virtually instantaneous. We don't charge, you know, big fees to manage all of that, like say a title company would when
Starting point is 00:42:12 you're buying a property or a transaction for a bank. They charge a fee as well. All of that is eliminated and it is simplified with something we call a crypto case. That's part of it. The ring transaction is another part of it. And they're all tied in together on that technology platform. And we think we have a much better solution than, say, you know, going to a coinbase or somewhere else where you have to convert it, then you got to get your money, then money's got to be coming out of a digital dollar account somewhere else. And it's a nightmare. But see, there's hundreds of currencies all over the world anyway. Now we got digital currencies that also have to be transacted and, you know, translated. And then fees are taken out of that. And we just
Starting point is 00:42:56 think that's unfair. And what it's worth at the time of transaction may not be what it's worth after. So, you know, now even 20 minutes later, you're absolutely right. That's a big concern because you're losing money every time you take money out of one account, pay a fee and then put it into another account. Even if it's a good old American dollar, the visa corporation will also charge you to put it back into your account, which just blows my mind. So you believe, and I think we will just stop here because I'm going to, the whole is
Starting point is 00:43:29 getting too big. But you believe that the government is not going to take control of this. That fight will be won. I believe the government has no right to take control of it because it is not going to be within their purview. That's a cute little thought. You like the thought? Yeah. I do. That's a cute little thought. The government has no right. I've thought about that, Jeffrey. And honestly, I like to think that we have a solution for the government as well if they want to play ball. But we're not going to let them take over the personal finances of individuals, track their spending, throttle what they can buy. That's just, you know, it's not just anti-constitutional, it's anti-freedom.
Starting point is 00:44:12 They're doing that already, though. They're trying to, but it depends on what crypto is going to give up access to that. Crypto is supposed to be secure by nature. Now, they've been cracked. They've all been broken. That's a cute little thought. Right. It is.
Starting point is 00:44:27 But, you know, when you've got one layer of security protecting everything, we've looked at it and said, why not eight layers? We can make that happen digitally. It takes no time at all, you know. Outside of that, what's the real value of having your currency online and easily accessed? And then the government can watch everything you're doing and then say, oh, no, you don't get any more candy, Mr. Diabetic, you know. I'm with you. You're skeptical, I know. I don't foresee that.
Starting point is 00:44:56 That's a difficult road these days. I mean, that road is being closed off more and more every day. Only if we let it. Every time we let them take an inch, they'll go for a mile. And, you know, we allow them access to it. We own the code. We wrote the software. We manage the transactions.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You know, we're not going to just give that up. We have rights as important. Hey, don't, don't be squaring up with me on your vertis and shoulders. Okay. I wouldn't dare think of that against you, sir. So, okay, so, and now let's go to the, you know, let's go to the Metaverse. And are we going to be involved? You know, I'm hoping that Zuck calls me soon and allows me to do a show inside the
Starting point is 00:45:44 metaverse. I'll do a daily radio show inside the Metaverse. It still kind of looks like an episode of SimCity. And if you're playing the game, you know, apologies. But, yeah, it does not look like what. they're selling it is, it will look like hopefully, but I don't foresee that being a huge leap that people can afford just yet. I know, but it's getting there, right?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Close. Very close. Yeah. So, I mean, are we going to be able to do transactions inside the Metaverse? I think it's perfectly designed for that. He's already done that. He's already started his own crypto for that, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:17 In fact, most cryptos came from the gaming industry when people were buying upgrades to their games and their weapons and their clothing and everything. Yeah. That's how digital. currency came about, making it, you know, something that's real and tradable, you know, there's a perceived value. And the value in the metaverse is no different than it would be, you know, in my own backyard. But I'm not in that meta world in my backyard, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Right. Right. All right. Well, Chuck, anyway, I love talking to you. Thank you. Chuck Paul, Chief Communications Officer for Verdeson, which is. he's the new communications
Starting point is 00:46:58 officer. Do you have the big sign to on the office and everything now? I do. I put one up and there's actually a TV with my name
Starting point is 00:47:05 scrolling across it. Yeah. You put it up? Don't that is a version to have some kind of do boy to do that for you? Well,
Starting point is 00:47:13 you know, we're hiring new boys all the time. So if you have a resume, let me know. Oh yeah. Listen, that may be closer
Starting point is 00:47:21 than you think. I may be knocking on the door. I may be willing to become a vertis of Duboy. Don't you kid yourself. Chuck, thank you. Chuck, thank you very much, man. I appreciate your time. You bet, brother.
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