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Episode Date: July 6, 2023

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Subway now has meat slicers so you can eat fresher. The sandwich chain shelled out $80 million to stock its 20,000 locations with the $6,000 meat-cutting machines. Man, good for that business. Good for the meat-cutting machine business. They had some jobs making those machines for Subway. 80% of the stores will show them off at the front. The foray into the non-precised cold cuts comes as the privately held chain seeks to find a buyer.

And to promote its new meat method, Subway plans to introduce new sandwiches and give away 1 million 6-inch subs next week. So if you're listening live, today is the 6th of July, 2023. So next week, Subway is going to give away 1,06-inch subs. Now, it'll be sliced in the store, but the meat will not be cut to order. The automated slicers will run during prep hours only. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. I don't know.

I guess it's just a way to promote. that it's freshly sliced meat daily at your local subway? Okay, all right, fine. It doesn't really do much for me. I'm not a huge subway fan, but I am willing to take a free six-inch sandwich, so may have to stop by and take a look at the new meat-cutting machines at subway. Oh, there's going to be a lot of use.

meat cutting machines for sale if this doesn't work out for subway welcome welcome to chewing the fat so the former mayor of new york city bill de blasio who had a failed run at the presidency he had a failed run at congress i think he had a failed run for senate though i'm not sure about that but uh he now is failing at his marriage. He tweeted out from, because of this story in the New York Times, that said, even at

this moment of change, this is a true love story. Oh, I didn't say true. He says, I'm sorry. He said, even, and then he could link to the New York Times story about them and getting separated, his wife, Shirlane McCray.

He tweeted, even at this moment of change, this is a love story. Is it, Bill? Okay. So after nearly three decades of marriage, they are separating, but they're not planning on divorcing.

They will keep sharing their home, but they're also going to date people. This is what they said. They're going to keep sharing their residence for the time being. So good for them, I guess. I know that originally, they said that prior to being married to Bill,

she identified as a lesbian. Okay, I mean, so she changed. She met Bill and said, hey, you know, I guess I'm not a lesbian now. And now, after all these years of marriage, yeah, well, you know what? You know what? I am a lesbian again.

Maybe not. Maybe she's going to date men as well. I don't know. Maybe Bill is too. Good for them. Boy, how, I mean, that would be difficult to live in the same home with someone like that. But it's possible. I get it.

You don't want to give up what you have, but you want to give up what you have. You can quote me on that. You want to give up what you have, but you don't want to give up what you have. Wait, I said it the other way around. Anyway, good for them. They've been married since 1994. Their children are grown. So they said that they, you know, about two months ago,

Bill said, hey, why aren't you lovey-dovey anymore? And the wife said, hey, I can't fake it. It's just you. Ick. Okay. That doesn't say that. She just says you can't feel.

You can feel when things are off. And you just don't want to live that way. And he claimed now I look back and I say, hey, there are points where I should have been saying something. And we didn't. and I think things could have been said, well, you know, are you happy? What's going to make you happy?

You know, things that you say in a relationship. So, you know, they are breaking up and living together in the same house. Now, does that mean that if they start dating and want to take care of a little business with somebody else? Do you bring them back to the place? When you go upstairs, make sure you take a right, don't take a left. If you take a left, you're going into Bill's room or you're going into the wife's room either way.

I'm not sure who is going to be the first to bring someone home. I would guess it's her. That would just be my guess that Shirlane will be the first one to bring someone home. Although, I don't know that. Bill might be out, you know,

swiping right on the amps, bringing people to the house saying, just come in through the back door and that has a meaning I don't want to think about actually so we'll just guess that Bill is not going to be gay and he's just going to be a heterosexual cis white male and his African-American wife will either you know bring in a woman or a man and make sure that they go to the right room when they come by since they'll be living together that probably will end the relationship. I mean, the living together is when they fall in love again with someone else.

Maybe they all live happily in the same house. That would be an interesting house to be in if that were to happen. If a Bill or Charlene brought in their new relationship person and they're going to stay there too. That would be fun. That would be fun. Good luck. I wish nothing but the best for them. I want, I mean, he is a, he is a nightmare and she's, you know, just as bad as him as being with him forever. I mean, they are, you know, a happy little interracial couple and that's great. I know this morning I was on Mojo 5-0 with Brad Staggs and we talked about them getting married in Cuba.

I apologize. They did not get married in Cuba. They only honeymoon in Cuba. And man, when you think of beautiful places to honeymoon, what better. place to honeymoon than in Cuba. Am I right? Right. I mean, I know Cuba is beautiful and all.

And, you know, what a great place. But in 1994, when they were married, Fidel Castro was still in charge of Cuba. And he was busy running that country into the ground. And so, it's still being run into the ground, as far as I know. But I'm sure it's beautiful, and I'm sure it was beautiful then.

So I don't want to take anything away from the Republic of Cuba. And I wish nothing but the best for Shirlane McRae and Bill de Blasio. Just make sure you clean up after yourself and keep your partners in your own bedroom. Okay? Please. That's all I ask.

Unless you're going to post it on Instagram, and then, of course, I'll look. and you can follow me on Instagram Jeff Fisher Radio, no problem. You can follow me on Twitter at Jeffrey JFR. Facebook is Jeff Fisher Radio as well. And my new thread account is Jeff Fisher Radio as well.

It debuted you last night. So I figured, okay, well, I'm home. I've got some time. I can log in and jump through all the hoops to go ahead and sign up for threads just to see what it's going to be like. Zuck made it easy. If you have an Instagram account,

all you had to do was log in and log in through your meta Instagram account and you're in. You got a thread account. So there you have it. It's his way to slap down Elon a little bit with his micro blogging app threads. Pretty incredible. It looks just like Twitter, actually,

and you write short posts. And who is it going to last? Is it going to shoot down Twitter? I don't. Twitter has 350 million monthly active users, and I know that meta has 3 billion users. I don't know how much that correlates between Facebook and Instagram, but they said that if yesterday we talked about this,

that if Instagram took 18% of its customers to threads, it would be as big as Twitter or bigger. Good luck. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I know everybody wants to see Zuck and Elon have their cage fight. You know, it's not going to happen, right? It's not going to happen. They're not going to cage fight. They're not going to fight at the iconic Coliseum. And if they do have an event, let's just say for us, you know, just as you and I sit here talking, let's just say that they have an event. It's going to be for charity and they're not going to really fight. I don't know. know who would win that fight. Zuck has been, you know, he's Mr. Hoya, and Elon really isn't. So, you know, Zuck may actually put up a better fight than Elon, but it's not going to happen. I mean, do I, would I like to see these two guys get in a cage and beat the crap out of each other? It'd be fun. I, sure, you know, I'd pay to see it, but I don't think it's going to happen. It's just, it's not going to happen. Sorry.

good news from a japan they have uh given the go ahead to dump radioactive water into the ocean yay so the u.ns uh nuclear agency signed off on the nation's controversial plan to release more than a million metric tons of treated but still uh you know just a little radioactive uh wastewater from the fukushima power plant that was i mean that's just been destroyed since 2011 and they're just going to put it back into the Pacific Ocean. What could go wrong? Now, there's some nearby countries that are apparently objecting to this plan. Wait, what I know?

I don't understand it either. The experts, they claim, well, you know, the plan is, it's probably safe. It could create a situation with, you know, the animals in the sea, kind of a Godzilla situation, but that's it. Don't you worry about it. It's fine. And look, the U.S. and China have already disposed of diluted nuclear waste in the ocean before.

So it's fine. Don't worry about it. Just go ahead, dump it in the ocean. Everything will be fine, won't it? Won't it? Of course it will. All right, let's go to the break room. I need something cold to drink desperately.

So I was watching a little bit of a show called Shiny Happy People on Prime, which is about the Duggers. And my wife, well, I should say, my wife was watching it and said, I was like, what are you watching? And she was like, I'm watching it. It's a show about the Duggers. And it's on Prime. And I, you know, I walked away.

I care crap about the Duggers. However, then as I walked past again, she goes, you know, I don't watch some of this. and they show the one woman talking about the domestic disciplinary agreement contract. And how she had to be left in the corner, and it was all part of the domestic disciplinary agreement contract. Makes me laugh. Good luck pulling that off with most American women.

The domestic disciplinary agreement contract. I want one of those. I want one of those because, hey, it's in the contract. Get in the corner and shut your face. And you call me Lord, okay? And you know what? I'll tell you when to get out of the corner and you better be ready to have some sort of business, okay? Because I am the Lord of this house. And this is part of our domestic disciplinary agreement contract. That's awesome. That's awesome because I just don't see that happening in most places around the world, let alone here in the United States. So anyway, I see, I watched the last couple of episodes. I may have even mentioned this.

I watched the last couple episodes of The Lincoln Lawyer on Netflix. I love that series on Netflix. It's with Manuel Garcia-Rolfo plays the Lincoln Lawyer. And it's really fun. It's really fun. I had a lot of... I enjoyed the season one. And so, you know, I was, didn't have anything to watch, and I was sitting here.

I wanted to just, I wanted to just have something to take my mind away so I could just sit there and kind of go nowhere. As I put on, you know, Lincoln Lawyer, the last, I like the last three episodes of season one are my favorites, but the whole season is well worth watching. And anyway, so as I'm watching that, I get to the final show. And the season two is premiering today. I told you, if you're listening live, today is the 6th of July. my 2020. Season two is premiering today. Awesome.

I'm really excited about season two of the Lincoln lawyer. Except, except. I see where Netflix is pulling this crap. I don't know why. It's really frustrating to me. What brought Netflix to the table was what?

When they had a show, you drop the season. There you go. There's all 10 episodes. There's all 12 episodes. There's all five episodes. There's all six episodes. There you go. That's the season. Watch at your own risk. Go. Your own time, whatever you want. You can binge them. You can knob. Whatever. However you want to do it, go. Well, now come to find out that they're doing two halves of season two of the Lincoln lawyer.

They're dropping the first half today, which is five installments. And then they're making us wait until August 3rd to drop the second half, which is another five installments. I don't like it. I don't like it. They claim that this strategy is, you know, that's a guarantee that they create more viewers or something. Who knows? It just pisses me off. Just let me watch the show, please.

Please, okay? I've been watching Paramount Plus does one show a week, which is kind of agonizing it. I almost don't want to watch it weekly. I want to wait until you know, it's done with the season or I've missed three or four episodes so I could binge three or four episodes at a time. But Joe Pickett on Paramount Plus season two.

The first season was really good and I really enjoyed and I'm enjoying the second season as well. Michael Norman plays Joe Pickett, Julianna Gill is his wife. Really good. I like it. It's worth a watch. I see the final season of Jack Ryan

is up on Prime. which is season four, they claim is the final episode of Jack Ryan with John Krasinski and Wendell Pierce, who I love. But they are, Prime is doing two episodes a week. Okay, so it started last week, and then I think they drop every Thursday as well. And there's only six. There's only six episodes. So you get two last week, two this week, and two next week, and then it's over. Wow.

It's amazing that they get away with... six episodes, but they do, and I watch. So there you have it. And then, I mean, we have the writer's strike still going on, so we may never. We may never see new shows again forever. Kind of, kind of sad. And then I see where Netflix has a new licensing deal with Warner Brothers that they're going to start bringing some HBO shows to Netflix. All right, so then why do I need HBO? Well, for the news shows, Jeff.

Oh, okay. sure because those are so good I see where you know at least one of my all-time favorite shows from HBO from years ago six feet under is going to Netflix that may I may have to sit through that again

I don't know that I can I don't know that I can sit through it again it's one of those one of those series that just you know it's there and it's been there and I was so I was so involved in it at the time that it was on

that I don't know that I can sit through it again And although you never know. That series was awesome because that came on after The Sopranos or right close to the end of The Sopranos on HBO. And I remember thinking, ah, it's just a time slot hit. They're trying to, you know, get into, you know, the Sopranos. They want something else and something new to watch somewhere in there. It was 2001, something like that.

And then I remember my wife saying, you know, you ought to watch. this is not bad and I just you know it wasn't worried about it and I was walking through the living room and I hear my wife say you know you ought to sit down and watch this it's pretty good and as I'm in the room I hear on the television uh I hear the dialogue say shut up and F me. I was like you know I I probably could sit down here for a minute and catch a little bit of this well you know what as long as we're talking about Netflix I see they all also being reported that they just secured a deal for a 10-part series for $50 million on the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones. So is that worth $50 million?

Yeah, I guess so. It's America's team. It's a docu-series. Netflix is going to spend $50 million on this for NFL films. and sports, and it's going to be on Netflix with the docus series on Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. So that'll be, is it going to be worth 50 million? Certainly, that's money better spent than with Megan and Harry. That's for sure.

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The successful Asian singer, songwriter has died at the age of 48. Her family said that it was suicide. Very sad. She had been suffering from depression for several years and that her condition was deteriorating drastically over the last few months. So very sad. Cocoa Lee, I'm sure you're, I mean, who doesn't know about Cocoa Lee, a Hong Kong born singer-songwriter,

a successful career in Asia, dead by suicide at the age of 48. If you or someone you love is having issues, just dial 988, and that will take you to the suicide prevention hotline, and it's actually the mental health hotline. So use that if you need it, please. Also, who died today?

named man in Texas. I saw this story and I thought, wow, okay, so part of the story, really? So on Saturday, there was a 911 call made to Gladewater, Texas, and who doesn't love

Gladewater, Texas. They got a call regarding an unresponsive mail at Gladewater Lake. All right, so emergency services were arrived and they initiated life-saving measures around seven witnesses, told first responders that the 34-year-old male

had dived headfirst from a 40-foot high embankment into a four-foot deep pool of water. That doesn't end well for anyone, and it didn't end well for this man. Witnesses helped remove him from the water, offered assistance, and despite the diligent efforts of the Gladewater Fire, EMS, Gladewater Police, the Christian EMS,

the victim tragically succumbed to his injuries. The initial findings suggested that alcohol was a potential contributing factor. Uh, you think? Look, here's a ledge. I can jump off into a four-foot pool of water. Do you do that when you're sober? No, I don't think you do. Now, there is good news coming from Hong Kong, and I mean, we had the sad news of Cocoa Lee, but there's good news that the Chinese University of Hong Kong have

developed an edible, transparent, and biodegradable material with considerable potential for use as food packaging. Oh, okay. As you know, I mean, you and I, we both know. We all know that the world is

drowning in plastic. Do we all know that? Okay. So the heavy resilience on petrochemicals. I love modern petro technology and chemicals. And the inherent non-biodegradability of plastic packaging means it has long been a significant contributor to environmental contamination. The team members have termed their attention to bacterial cellulose, or BC,

an organic compound derived from certain types of bacteria that has gained attention as a sustainable, easily available, and non-toxic solution to the pervasive use of plastics. The study showed that the plastic alternative could be degraded completely within one or two months. Unlike other biodevrived plastics such as polyaltic acid, the bacterial cellulose, or BC, based composite does not require specific industrial composting conditions to degrade. The material developed in this research is completely edible, making it safe for turtles and other sea animals to consume without causing aquatic toxicity in the ocean.

And Lord knows we don't want aquatic toxicity in the ocean. Okay, I've got to say that right. Aquatic toxicity in the ocean. Now, in a recent paper, published in the Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture, and who doesn't have their copy of the Journal of the Science of, of food and agriculture titled edible edi b le strong and low hygroscopic bacterial cellulose hydroscopic bacterial cellulose derived from biosynthesis and physical modification for food packaging now this is awesome and if it's actually true good i mean that's fine i love it and

let's make it work for everyone and no problem but But how long before it's meant for us to eat? You know that BC stuff, humans could eat that. So let's just wrap all the food with that. And you just go ahead and eat it. That's fine. And then we don't have to throw it away. We just go ahead and eat it.

We're going to wrap all your produce in it. And we're going to, you know, go ahead and eat it. We're going to wrap all your meat in it. Now, once you take your meat out, so many jokes. Once you take your meat out, you want to clean off the plastic. But then, you know, you'll, you know, could eat it. You can eat it just like that. You can heat it up or make it raw. And it's just fine. No problem to go great with all your foods. That's coming. That is sadly coming. I don't know that

I'm a fan. I mean, maybe that's why the sharks are attacking. We've had all kinds of sharks attacking up there in New York now and they're closing down beaches and maybe that's why they're attacking. They're pissed that there's plastic out there. They want some edible stuff. They're pissed that they have to eat plastic. It's possible. Now they're shutting down beaches. Now the cool thing is, is they have these drones now that fly over the water and they there's a bunch of sharks out there. Let's close down the beaches. Now these sand sharks are very common off Long Island. And so the large school

is not something out of the ordinary, but when you see it, you want to say maybe you don't go swimming for a little while. Okay. Now the shark sighting comes after, let's say we had a 15-year-old girl swimming off the beach. She got bit in her leg. They claim this was unconfirmed. We don't know if it was a shark or not.

Sure, she had bites out her leg and puncture wounds, but we don't know if it was a shark. Oh, okay. We're just assuming that it was a shark. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's only schools of sharks out in the water. Couldn't have been that. And then not long, a little later,

just down the coast a little bit. or up the coast. A 15-year-old boy was surfing when a shark took a bite at his feet left him with puncture wounds in his ankle and toes. I guess we believe him because he said, it was a shark.

He swam to shore. Some bystander helped him as they waited for officers from whoever rescues people on the beach up in Long Island. And he was taken to the hospital. He said his ankle and toes are intact, but it was confirmed

that the boy was attacked by a shark, not the girl. So maybe these sharks are just pissed. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe they're saying, hey, maybe you give us some bacterial cellulose, okay? Maybe you stop feeding us plastics, okay? We want some bacterial cellulose to, we don't want any more aquatic toxicity in our ocean. Okay, got it?

Now, I know New York is, you know, they're agonizing and I'm okay with them. being ripped apart usually. But Hokel, the governor, has announced that that's why they spent all this money on these new drones, right? They have a park staff that are certified to operate them, and

they use the equipment out there along the beaches and along the water to say, okay, I've got some sharks, don't open the beach, don't open the beach. So, I mean, that's kind of a good thing. I'm a fan of that. I'd rather have the drones out over the water saying, yeah, you know, this is the time of the year for the sand sharks to show up. So maybe we don't go swimming and we just fly some drones over and take a look at all the

sharks. And when they show up, we say, yeah, there's sharks out there and don't go swimming. We're closing down the beaches. I'm okay with that. I think that's money well spent, unlike many other things that New York is spending money on. And now we have these giant bugs, these winged aphids invading New York City as well now. Things are going great in New York. They're being attacked in the water.

They're being attacked in the air. We've got smoke and haze coming in from the wildfires. And now we have these flying insects that are just flying everywhere in the city. That's great. That is great. Good, good for New York. Again, good for New York. I don't think the drones can help the swarm of bugs coming into the city.

So it could be a little bit of an issue. for New York. Maybe you could just run away into the water. Oh, no, you can't do that. There's sharks there, too. And we can't go inside. You have to stay inside, stay locked up, and make sure you're using some sort of air purifier

and wear your mask inside because it's really smoky and hazy outside. But don't go outside, even with the mask on because bugs are flying everywhere. Oh, okay. Man, does that sound like a place I want to be. With MX Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining

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and I listened to him, I loved him, brought back a flood of memories. And so I wanted to talk to Phelan McLeer, he and his wife, Anne McElnerney, who are friends of the show. I mean, my son, Hunter, the movie, and serial killer, Kermann Gosnell podcast, which was awesome. They started this podcast on Kevin Spacey. And when I was listening to the first episode, it brought back all these memories of, because we talked about it on this show and other shows that I do.

And I just was remembering, like, my gosh, we now believe overall that Kevin Spacey is this dirtbag. But when you go back and remember what actually happened, you think, well, no, at the time, we were thinking, no, he's not a dirt bag. So, Phelham. Anyway, welcome. How are you? Good to talk to you. Good to see you. Welcome to chewing the fat.

You guys decided to do this podcast on Kevin Spacey. And I love it. What a great thought. I mean, the guy, we, I mean, we all, it's kind of a community access now, right? I mean, he's a dirt bag. But is he really? I don't know. That's the question.

And we're the unreported story society. When the mainstream media tell you something, you can generally guess that it's not true or there's a lot of story not being told. So the Kevin Spacey scandal erupted during, at the very height of the Me Too era.

Right. When it was an absolute frenzy, right? And by the way, don't forget who covered, who ran the report on Kevin Spacey first? BuzzFeed News. In the same year that they published the steel dossier, the uncorroborated steel docket.

I'm serious. And all these conservatives out there believe that BuzzFeed News was lying through its teeth and being nasty and evil and political when they published the steel dossier. But then when they published something about Kevin Space, they're going, oh, yeah, he must be guilty. That's guilty. Absolutely. It's guilty. Kevin Spacey, we all knew that. Yeah.

And it's funny, you'd be surprised to many people say that. I'm going, well, how do you know, and I just wanted to say, hold still a while.

Like, people, first of all, people deserve, if we're conservatives, people deserve due process. Second, if the mainstream media is telling you something,

it's our duty to be skeptical. For sure. For sure. If the mob is telling you something, it's our duty to be skeptical. Absolutely. And in our world today, I mean, we're, we've turned the ship completely around with innocent until proven guilty.

I mean, you are guilty until you can prove yourself innocent. And you're still guilty even after that. That's actually funny. You must have listened to the last episode of our podcast because that is really the reason we did this podcast. We've got to say, we've got to go back to guilty until proven innocent. And we got to go back to this punished, being punished for allegations. And we got to go back and stop this. believe all women or believe all victims.

I mean, I know. It's amazing. We've covered all this. I mean, listening to the first episode, I was reminded of, you know, the actual case and the actual allegations.

And you're thinking, wow, that does not sound as bad as it was portrayed. It just doesn't. And I, you know, I know it's just me. I know.

It's just me. The freak from Texas. I got it. No, no, listen, listen. So let me tell you about how we got into this story. We were making the Mice on Hunter movie in Serbia, right? Right, right. Hunter Biden that called Hunter Biden a corrupt drug addict and his father corrupt also.

And of course, Hunter Biden's now a drug addict, not cocaine in the White House. Please stop it. Stop it. We will never know who it belonged to, but it certainly isn't his. It's just one of the mysteries of life, really. You know, I'm just a poor Irish guy. You know, I just don't understand America. at all. I guess I'll never

know, we'll never know. So we needed an actor, oddly. And people weren't, you know, people weren't lining up. Hollywood wasn't lining up. And our director, Robert Davy, said, you know, sometimes these old guys are quite smart, you know.

I hope Robert doesn't mind me call him an old guy, but he's a veteran. He's been, he's seen a lot, you know. He's a veteran. Yes, he's not an old guy, he's a veteran. Yeah, but, you know, you should really listen to people sometimes. You know, He said, what about Kevin Spacey? And I says, Spacey, but she was, he molested some 14-year-old or whatever. He's, no, no, that's, you know, you need a list.

And, of course, I'm supposed to be this, I'm supposed to be the skeptical journalist. I'm supposed to be the person who investigates these things. Robert's supposed to be the actor who reads the lines. But I went and investigated. I said, no, no, we're not getting Space. He's definitely up to something. And then a few months later, like, there was a two-week trial in New York with a Liberal New York jury, right?

Two weeks of evidence. Anthony rapped the actor, accused him of sexually assaulting him. In 45 minutes, in 45 minutes, the jury came back with a not guilty verdict. Incredible. And, you know, I don't know if you know what's about juries. They get in, they have to decide what they're going to have for lunch, right? Yes. The jury said I've been a part of, do we want to find them guilty now or do we order lunch?

Yes, they have to elect a foreman. They have to decide what seats. Yeah. And all this. And then they take it. And it's like, so in other words, they immediately found him not guilty. Right. Right.

And to me, I was just going, how do we get it so wrong? And why do people still get it so wrong? How do we think he was all guilty? Right. Now, he's currently, I'm here in London, beautiful London, because he's facing four more charges in London. Yeah, that trial is ongoing right now, right? It's ongoing. It's seated.

It's going. It's in, we're in the middle of this. trial right now. So that's how we came to the Kevin Spacey trial on Filtern to do this podcast because, and people might think I'm not interested in this liberal Hollywood type who doesn't care about our values either. But look, they come for people like Kevin Spacey and they change the law by the way in New York so that Anthony Rap could sue him. And they changed that law. And then they use that law to go after Trump by the way. This is what they do. They change the law. They mess with the law to make it easier to convict the people we don't like.

And we go, you know, good ridens, Kevin. I mean, Harvey was part of that as well. Yeah. And then they come for us and the January 6 people and all that. And we're going, but that's not fair. And everyone goes, well, you didn't object when they did it, Kevin Spacey. You didn't object when they did it to all these other people.

This is what they do. So we need justice, a denial of justice for someone that Kevin Spacey is going to come back and bite us all. This is why you need to listen to this podcast. and listen to the trouble that the American justice system and the American media system is under. Okay, so this trial that's happening right now, and I don't disagree, the first episodes have been great. Kevin Spacey trial unfiltered is the podcast, and I know your wife, Ann, is the host, and it's been great. but so and we're covering the ground that many of us, myself included,

went, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And so now we're in after that, after that New York trial. I mean, that was like,

okay, not guilty. And now what? I mean, the guy, when the guy was a superstar, he still a superstar. But I mean,

he had, he had Hollywood and media at his feet. Right. I mean, he signed this. He was working for, when he signed the Netflix deal was the highest paid ever. He created the show that was, it still talked about. It's still talking.

It's fantastic. And now we're just supposed to just shove him under the rug because of these allegations. So now we're in London. He's, how many, how many cases are up? Four charges. Four charges. Okay. Four, sorry, four complainants, 12 charges.

Okay. Right. And so, uh, these cases are charges. are similar to what happened here in the US. Are they not or are they different? Well, it's some kind of sexual assault, but the rap case was lifting Anthony Rap off a bed, throwing him back on the bed and jumping on top of him at a 14-year-old.

Can I just say it's Anthony Rap case, you've got to listen to the podcast. The Anthony Rap case, Anthony Rap was in a movie called Precious Sons, and he was rehearsed in it, and he did it eight days a week, or eight times a week on Broadway. On this play. A scene in the play is Ed Harris,

coming in drunk, seeing what he thinks is his wife on the sofa under a blanket, but it's actually Anthony Rapp, his son, lifting Anthony Rapp up like a bride lifts a bridegroom, throwing on a bed and jumping on top of them. And Anthony Rapp says that was how he was assaulted by Kevin Spacey. Amazing.

He told the story from, the play. It gets better. Anthony Rapp said it all happened in a bedroom in the one bedroom apartment that Kevin Spacey after a party Kevin's. He went off to the room to watch TV for privacy basically after the party. Spacey just left door. When it was all said and done. I mean, no, no, wait, Spacey stood in the doorway, went over and lifted him like a bride, lifts a bridegroom, throw him on the bed. Spice was able, Spacey was able to go back. Spicey is a pack rat. He is an 11,000 square foot. storage warehouse in Baltimore with every piece of paper he's ever had.

He was able to go back and find the lease, find letters, find envelopes for the apartment. He found the floor map for the apartment he was in. He was living in a studio apartment. There is no bedroom. There is no doorway. There's no place where Anthony Rap could have retreated. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's believable, but it's unbelievable.

Yeah. BuzzFeed colluded with Rap. Rap got a number of things wrong in his account. BuzzFeed found out about it and colluded with him to keep those out of the story. So rap story would make more, would be more credible. And literally there's an email between Adam Vary, the reporter and Adam Rapp. Adam Barre, the reporter, and Anthony Rapp, the actor saying, look, we're going to keep this vague, which will make it more difficult for specifically to specifically deny this.

Wow. Right? It was a collusion between the East. two people to stitch up at the height of the Me Too frenzy. BuzzFeed was in financial trouble. Adam Vary was a no-name reporter in BuzzFeed looking for clicks.

And we all fell for it, you know, and we got to stop following to these things. We got to, if BuzzFeed tells you, I know BuzzFeed's gone bust now, but if these people tell you something, you know, ask for the video, because even

don't trust the video, you know. So yeah, so he's over here now. He's got four charges of various types of groping. There is one accusation of an actual, you know, serious sexual assault that goes beyond groping. Okay. Too much details. So we haven't heard the evidence of that ones. We've heard three of the complainants so far.

Okay. Wow. The first one was a driver who was. was quite impressive on the witness stand, obviously, you know, kind of blocish English guy. But Spacey's barrister kind of demolished some of it, or kind of raised serious questions about his credibility. I mean, the driver said, I used to drive for this person.

I was like the right-hand man. And the barristers said, I put his due, you never worked for this family. And he, you know, so the barrister may have, proof that he never worked for the family. The guy also said, I work for Elton John's security. The barister said, you never worked for Elton John.

So they may have proof of that. So this guy is he, you know, they can prove that he's kind of making this stuff up. And this is the guy who said Spacey, you know, assaulted him so much that he was sick and he was nervous and he couldn't work.

And he had to give up work. And Spacey famously assaulted him 2004, 2005, on the way to an Elton John party of so violent they almost drove off the road. Turns out the barristers saying Spacey never went to an Elton John party 2004 and 2005. Was there even an Elton John party? There was. It's a famous party.

He has it every year. But he says the only time Spacey has been to that party is in 2001. And I've done the Googling. And yes, there's only photographs of Spacey 2001. And they may have proven. They may have, I don't know if Elton John is going to give a statement or an evidence about Spacey's attendance at a party. So if you, you know, and this was the great.

This was the great turning point. This is when he said, I can work for him no longer after this violent assault. So we'll see. So that was the first guy. The second guy basically spent all night drinking and taking drugs with Kevin Spacey with a group. And Spacey hugged him. He let out his dog, long story. Spacey hugged said, don't worry about it.

Hugged him. Packed him twice on the cheek and apparently made a grope. As the guy said, a two out of ten grope. in terms of force when he said and then he said I don't bat for that team specifically panicked

and went into a bedroom and closed the door right okay so and the guy as the guy says you know the time I thought

no harm you know no harm was done anyway he's now come back and say this was an assault and then he

and I thought I thought well we're looking at you know everyone I was kind of thinking well it's not a

you know it's not much of it assault, but technically that's an assault, right? I guess, yeah. I guess. I guess, right? But, and I was thinking, okay, you know, it's not, it may not be fair, it may not be, but the reality is if you touch someone. Yeah, I mean, in my world, it's not an assault, but, you know, you know, I think, you know, the world of the law is protect, I suppose,

vulnerable people, and if you touch someone in that kind of way, unwanted, you know, yes, it's an assault, there's no doubt about it. But then, in America, that last year, complainant number two, went on to kevinspacey.com, Spacey's website, pressed the contact button, sent an email saying, I don't want to miss quote them now. If I won't go through with this court case if you agree to a settlement. Oh, nice. We're going to do a little blackmail.

Awesome. Well, yeah, funny. I, somebody says, is that extortion? I says, no, I think it's suborning perjury or something. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it just, it means, oh, you're only interested in money. Okay. Um, so he said he didn't recall sending the email, but didn't deny that it is his email.

So then victim number three, sorry, complainant number three. Uh, impressive too, actually. Uh, was a runner and a party, a big charity do. Says, Spacey, you know, since this, Spacey said some violent racist stuff towards him. that was something now he said specie it was mid-morning Spacey seemed drunk and disheveled I'm not buying Spacey

saying vile racist stuff right in public that's just say racist kind of stereotypes about men and all but black men I'm not buying that right but you know maybe when people are drunk maybe he was joking who knows

and then seriously assaulting him groping him you know quite seriously And, you know, he was believable in a sense, you know, he seemed to, you know, be quite adamant. And he's quite very articulate, very well spoken. And then, of course, it emerged. He was in contact with a American lawyer who's launching a civil suit against Spacey, who then put him touch with a British lawyer who, who is now, and he's now got a civil assault claim against Spacey

and that his lawyers, this complainant's lawyers, recently wrote to Spacey's lawyers saying, do not let Mr. Specy cannot dissipate his assets in advance of our court claim because, you know, we want our cut. We want our cut. Now he says that was sent by his lawyers, well, how does knowledge.

I don't know if lawyers would do that. So that was a complaint at number three. You know, it's hard to know how damaging. It's hard to know. It's hard to know. It's hard to know. It's really, really fascinating stuff. It's fascinating stuff.

It sure is. And they all came forward because they saw Anthony Rap come forward, although the guy said he'd never heard of Anthony Rap. And I was going, of course you heard of right. How is that? Of course you have. Don't be silly. What are we talking about?

And I was thinking, yeah, of course you have. But so, yeah, but honestly, I had got to say to the listeners of the blaze and to your show, look, it's a great, by the way, it's a great podcast. It's really well put together. Absolutely well. Really well edited. It's great, really well researched. And by the way, I did, you know, lots of people worked on it, Virginia and Mark and all these people and narrated it. And it's, it's one of my favorite projects because we're not defending Donald Trump. We're not defending. You know what I mean? You know, you know. You know. Defending Kevin Spacey. We're just telling you what happened. What's going on?

We're telling the truth. We're defending the truth. We're defending the rule of law. We're defending justice. Yes. Because if we can stop this and expose this and expose the media and expose the politicization of the justice system, then this will protect conservatives going forward, you know? Amen. Right.

It's in my nose. It's a bit of allergy from the lung. That's right. all right. We'll just paste the audio. The people listening to chewing itself is fine. They can't see so don't even worry about it. I appreciate it, Phelan. This is so fascinating to me.

It is. We don't know how many episodes with this ongoing trial, we really don't know how many episodes the podcast is going to have, right? Well, no, we've recorded. So we wanted to do nine, we wanted to do the trials of Kevin Spacey in America, right? And we did.

And there's nine episodes, right? Okay. And it's not just the trial. It's a great episode on media malfeasance. It's stunning. Episode number four. It's just like your jaw will hit the floor of what these guys got up to. And how they're still, how they're still in business, but they're not in business, but how this guy is still writing.

I'm going to write a big piece about it. How he's still in business. How he's still a journalist. It's just shocking. I mean, my, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Continue beating this guy up.

Go ahead. Alam Vary I mean he You know The opening People I don't know people remember The opening of the thing is The opening of the allegation is

You know that he was Spacey took Anthony Rapp He was 14 And another 17 year old friend To a nightclub that night Right and it's like Wow okay

So the Spacey behaves inappropriately With two two minors You know kind of damning That guy who was a 17 year old is now a famous actor called John Barrowman. He's famous in the UK, quite famous in the US. And they knew they didn't name him was John Barrowman. And you know why they didn't name him was John Barrowman?

Because if you Google the words John Barrowman, up pops his Wikipedia profile. And across the top is his date of birth. And they would have known that when they went into that nightclub, Barrowman was 19. He was an adult. Right? And he was the chaperone of rap. So he was looking after rap. So it was Spacey.

And Barabon, by the way, is this tall, attractive 19-year-old gay man. Spacey is a 26-year-old gay man. And they are going to the nightclub. And Rapp is there like the third wheel. Right. Tagging along. Tagging along. And they leave the night.

You know, it's a Sunday, by the way. It's a Sunday early evening at 6.30. It's not really a nightclub. It's, you know, they go there. Okay. And they leave at 9 because of Rapp's curfew. But they don't name him. They deliberately choose not to name him or ask him about his memories of the encounters.

Right. Because his memories completely contradict rap and completely back up spacey. Wow. So they withheld this fight. So it's all this media malfeasance. And we've got to stop just because the media bring down people we don't like. We've got to remember they're the media. And really, some of the people that we don't like, they're telling us not to like them.

And so we're like, well, I guess we don't have to like them now. We can't like them anymore. Because you're telling us we can't like him anymore. We really shouldn't be that. So, okay, so this trial that's happening now, all right? If it comes out that, I mean, if he walks, if they find him not guilty, if that were to happen, and he walks out of there, does this reinstate him in the world? Does it make him? I mean, how does he get that back?

I don't think he ever gets it back I think this is another thing about the left too they're so unforgiving they're like they know all this be kind and don't bully people where is the kindness where is the

where is the forgiveness and we lost you okay so thank you to Phelan McLare I don't know where that forgiveness is it certainly doesn't belong to anyone on the left or anyone any of the Kevin Spacey

haters So I appreciate Phelam Mackler joining us talking about the Kevin Spacey trial unfiltered podcast. The first three episodes have already dropped. You can always go to Kevin Spacey Podcast.com and listen to those. They have been awesome, as we heard from Phelan more to come. And also more to come on the London trial that is ongoing. All right, let's get out of here. Thank you for subscribing and listening to Chewing the Fat with yours,

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