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And now, Chewing the Fat
with Jeff Fisher. It is possible
that today is my
final day doing
chewing the fat. Okay, well, next
to last day to chewing the fat.
Because the powerball drawing
tonight is an estimated
$1 billion.
And that's
$516.8 million
cash payout.
So if and when I win that,
I will be here tomorrow.
and to say
talk to you later
have a nice life
it'll be a short podcast
but I will be here
now mega millions
had the drawing last night
that we talked about
for like 640 million
no one won
so Friday night's drawing
if you're listening live again
today is 719
2023 so Friday's
drawing would be the 19th
of July
is now 720 million
I spit on $720 million, okay?
That's only $369.6 million cash option.
I barely would accept that.
All right, but I would, I would, but I barely would accept that.
So it's possible.
That's possible.
I hope that someone that I know, if it's not me,
I hope that it's someone I know,
so that I can ask them for a loan.
Welcome!
Welcome to chewing the fat.
So an Australian sailor who had been adrift at sea with his dog for three months has finally been rescued.
And he was rescued by a Mexican tuna boat.
Now, you've never seen a Mexican tuna boat.
If you've been adrift at sea for three months with your dog, you have never been happier to see a Mexican tuna boat.
Timothy Lindsay Shattuck, 54, was on board his incapacitated catamaran, the Aloha Toa, in the Pacific,
for about 1,200 miles from land when the crew of the boat from the tuna boat, the Mexican tuna boat, spotted him and rescued him.
Incredible.
He was in a precarious state when found, lacking.
provisions and his shelter.
The tuna boats crew gave him
medical attention, food, and hydration.
Well, yeah, I would hope so.
No kidding. I mean, he was probably getting
close to
not surviving.
You can quote beyond that. He was probably getting close
to not surviving.
So, you know, he praised him and he was all happy
that they rescued him. But
unbelievable, three months
floating around in the ocean
with you and your dog.
At some point, I don't know how many, you know, how much food or provisions he had,
but at some point, I mean, one of you, the dog or you, are looking at each other going,
I'm getting kind of hungry.
And in my view, and a view of chewing the fat, this program, humans first.
So at some point when you see the dog looking at you like,
I'm about to have some dinner.
That's when you need to eat the dog.
That's when you need to end the dog's life
because you can't have it.
You can't have it.
So fortunately that didn't happen though
to Timothy, Lindsay Shattuck
and he was able to be rescued
from the Mexican to and a boat
with he and his dog.
And they'll have all the stories they'll tell.
I mean, maybe they could, I don't know,
try that in a small town.
What's going on?
Jason L. Dean is all in trouble now.
He's in the news because of his song.
Try that in a small town.
According to the haters,
that promotes lynching in America.
Oh, it's a pro lynching song.
Huh.
Okay.
CMT has pulled it now.
They won't air it.
It's been out since May.
It's just unbelievable.
So last night,
Jason actually posted a retort to the haters of Try That in a small town.
And he claims that he's been accused of releasing a pro-lynching song.
A song that's been out since May.
I just said that, Jason.
I don't know why you're repeating what I said.
And was subject to the comparison that, I direct quote,
was not too pleased with the nationwide BLM protest.
These references are not only meritless.
but dangerous. There is not a single lyric in the song that references race or points to it.
And there isn't a single video clip that isn't real news footage. And while I can try and respect
others to have their own interpretation of a song with music, this one goes too far. Does it?
As so many pointed out, I was present at Route 91, where so many lost their lives on our
community recently suffered. Another heartbreaking tragedy.
one including me wants to continue to see senseless headlines or families ripped apart.
Try that in a small town for me, as Jason L. Dean speaking, refers to the feeling of a community
that I had growing up, where we took care of our neighbors, regardless of differences of
backgrounds or belief, because they were our neighbors, and that was above any differences.
My political views have never been something I've hidden from, and I know that a lot of us in this
country don't agree on how we get back to a sense of normalcy, where we go at least a day
without a headline that keeps us up at night.
But the desire for it, that's what this song is about.
So try that in a small town.
Thank you, Jason.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sit down.
Go ahead.
Sit down.
Well, there you have it.
The pro-lynching song excuses from Jason Eldie.
I watched this.
I mean, it's a country song that's, you know, it's an American country song, red, red, white, blue.
We love America.
Now, is it a coincidence that where he filmed the video,
outside of the news clips in the video,
he's in front of this town hall building.
Sure, there was a lynching there back in the 20s.
Sure, there was raised riots back in the 40s.
Is he supposed to know that?
No.
How do you know history?
You don't.
You just like the building and you hang a flag
on it and you record your video
and you say tell people
hey try that in a small town
it can't be held
responsible for history
I'm sorry no
so you know
there's that there is that
there is that
you know yesterday we talked about
Miranda Lambert
and her
I've got to stop right now
because people are taking pictures in the audience
and I don't like that.
Pay attention to me.
I'm the singer.
Ugh, shut up, Miranda.
Can't take it.
But then today we find out that the great Taylor Swift
has 11 albums on the Billboard 200
for the first time.
Wow.
So, well, as a matter of fact,
she now has her 12th.
So she has 11.
Then one more was added today.
Number 12.
coming in with her speak now, Taylor's version, of course,
surpassing Barbara Streisand for the most among women.
And she became the first living artist in nearly 60 years
with four concurrent albums in the top 10.
And she also places 11 albums on the entire 200 position chart for the first time.
Wow.
So she's the only living act with six of the top,
20
Wow
Prince had six of the top
22 only he was dead
All right he's not alive like Taylor
So she's the only act
To have placed nine simultaneous albums
In the top 40
The only living act
With 10 of the top 100
Prince had 15
After he died
That's a shame too
He should have had that while he was alive
Also for the most number
one albums. The most number one albums
overall. Tied
for third. The Beatles are
number one.
Jay-Z is number two with
14. The Beatles have 19.
Jay-Z's got a ways to go.
Taylor is tied with
Drake at
12. Doesn't, I mean,
when you think
top albums, you think Drake and Taylor.
And then you have a Streisand who she just
beat out and Bruce Springsteen.
Unbelievable. Bruce Springsteen.
has 11 number one albums.
Bruce Springsteen, the boss.
And number 10 on the list with 10 albums on the number one list.
Kanye West, M&M, and of course, the king, Elvis Presley.
So congratulations to Taylor Swift.
I'll tell you this, Miranda Lambert.
I know you're a big star, and I'm not familiar with your tour and what's going on,
but I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift isn't going to stop in the middle of a song and say,
Hey, don't take any more pictures of yourself out there when I'm on the stage.
Probably not going to happen.
So you might want to take a couple of notes.
All right, let's go to the break room.
I need something cold to drink desperately.
Well, as long as we're in the break room, we may as well talk a little royals.
wait i don't think it is i don't think it is this is sweet land to liberty okay stop this right now no this is
okay well it's american royalty anyway so we'll go with that so anyway i see where i know it's kind of
sad actually but i see where king charles has made a bunch of money uh with his rent right he's
made millions of dollars over the year with all the properties he owns and his charging of rent
Right.
So now I see a story where Prince William has now told dad, hey, you know your little $1.2 million
wealth cottage that you loved so much and you moved into.
And well, that actually belongs to me now.
And so I'm going to be charging people rent to stay there and you need to get out.
Bye.
Is that because that was the house when he was a prince?
And now because he's the, he gets to keep.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
So Chris Cruz joins us for a little Royals talk
because Chris told me a story earlier today
that proves my point,
110,000 percent.
I knew it was coming.
It's moving a little bit slower than I had anticipated.
I didn't realize how heavy the ball and chain from Megan was,
but it's pretty heavy.
And I can understand why.
I get it.
Well, you don't want to dump her when she was pregnant, right?
That's why the second kid, because I thought the divorce was going to happen.
The second kid saved the marriage.
It did, no question.
And then now do you really want to break up with her?
Because now she's going to be a single mom of two under the ages of two and a newborn.
Look, my deal was is that he was going to, he's going to take the kids and go back to London.
Oh, he has to take the kids.
So the shot of.
of Harry walking into Windsor Castle with the two kids by himself, the million dollar shot,
man.
That's going to be awesome.
And it's coming.
Oh, yeah.
Because now they've got done with the Spotify deal.
They dinked around with that.
They've still got the Netflix deal, although that's kind of struggling.
But we heard that Harry was going to go to Africa because, I mean, they've taken the money.
They've got to do some documentaries for Netflix.
and he was going to go to Africa to do that.
And Megan wasn't going to go.
Well, then I hear, no, Megan's going.
And I thought, well, you have to say together, right?
And there's no way she's going to let him go and do this documentary by himself in Africa.
This is not going to happen, right?
Yep.
Apparently not.
Yeah.
Our Royal Whisper gave us some good information last night.
This literally came out last night at 803, Eastern.
If you're listening live today is the 19th of July.
Oh, thank you.
2023.
The insider says that the Duke and the Duchess are taking time apart to heal and rebuild their bond.
And I quote.
Awesome.
I mean, it's not awesome.
Anytime anyone breaks up.
No.
No.
Just bad.
And I quote, this is from the Royal Insider that heard Prince, right?
This is the conversation.
Okay.
And I quote, they're trying to figure out what hit them.
Harry doesn't fit in Megan's tacky, Tinsletown world.
And he's hoping to find himself.
Yeah, he's going to find himself all right.
He's going to go over to Africa, shoot the documentary because he has to, being forced to.
He's going to come back home.
They're going to go out to dinner.
You'll see him back together, Harry and Megan back together again.
and then a private jet back to London.
Well, Ariana Grande and her husband broke up
because he didn't know how much fame she had.
Right.
And that was a two-year marriage.
That no one even knew they were married.
I'm pretty good about my celebrities.
I did not know they were married.
I don't know that I did either.
And so if you ever got out and the other guy
are getting divorced too.
So.
Right.
Yes.
They're getting rid of the holiday, toy, house, and everything.
It's all done.
Yeah.
It's all done.
So divorce is the,
phrase of the week at Hollywood, which is where they reside right now, which is where he finds
himself at the tacky Tinseltown world. Yeah, they're at a crossroads. I love Megan. And
I just, I love her, but I just can't figure her out. I don't know where we're at. And it's just
tough to be with her. I miss my family. I miss the footman. Yes. I miss. I miss. I miss. I miss. I miss. I
miss all of it.
Well, if you think about it, royalty and celebrity are two different worlds.
Too completely different.
Megan found that out.
Oh, she did.
Megan found that out.
She wanted to always, despite her what she said.
She wanted to be a princess.
I didn't realize what it meant to be.
Shut up.
You did want to be a princess forever.
And the queen said no, because you're black.
Oh, sorry.
Grandpa told you, grandpa told you, don't marry the actresses.
They're a side piece.
And this is not us making it up.
No, that's what he said.
He actually told him this.
Yes.
You know it was Grandpa.
Oh, 100%.
I don't know, but the kid's going to be black.
We're not sure, aren't we?
Why do you think the pictures were taken so long to be shown?
Remember we thought?
Oh, my gosh.
Remember when the-
Because we thought that we were going to do the whole Michael Jackson?
Yes.
And remember the queen went over there early.
Yes.
She was pushing.
She was pushing.
Yes.
It's like, hmm, hmm, no, no.
Oh, no.
No.
No.
If the hair continues to look like that, we're done.
Okay, that's not happening.
I mean, that's exactly what happened.
If I pass my white gloves in his hair, it doesn't go back.
I mean, they're lucky it didn't happen.
They're lucky it didn't happen.
That is true.
The royal blood actually won out.
And by the way, if we remember, the first.
picture that was taken and published was in black and white yeah they were they were
they were still afraid yeah that the kid would not match the royal color how long there's a
latin there's terrible there's more anyway we get inside we get inside track oh but another source
another royal source tells us that they are under tremendous financial pressure to fund their
lavish california lifestyle including their 14 million
dollar mansion and security cause, which calm down.
We all know that is still flipping for that.
And I said they weren't, though.
I said they weren't.
Distress coupled with their emotional issues.
Yeah, they have a lot of that.
Has likely made life a living hell.
Of course it has.
Megan thought she was going to be welcomed and kind of was welcomed into the Hollywood
elite because of Harry.
Yeah.
But she thought the jobs would come.
Yes.
Well, the jobs did come.
Well, let's slow down here.
Different than what she had anticipated.
Disney made an offer and she took it.
She got the offer for the books, for the little kids' books.
Then she got the Spotify.
She got the Netflix.
She got the Hulu.
Everybody came to the table and said, here, the problem is that they're two freaking millennials, right?
Yeah, they got to work.
They don't want to work.
They just want the free money.
Well, here's the thing.
That's the prince and princess kind of.
mindset so you got the right mindset but with the wrong career if you want to think about it like that
i love this part taking time apart on different continents will hopefully help them find whatever
they need to do to move on the biggest thing according to harry is done according to harry and this insider
which i think it has to be someone closer to harry than to her but um he said that the interviews
that they had lined up for this,
I don't know if you heard this one,
the interviews that they had lined up
for Spotify America's,
they had a Spotify deal,
Archie podcast, whatever we want to call it.
They didn't want to, they weren't working.
Hell, they had to beg them to do shows.
Okay, exactly.
But according to Harry,
he already had lined up,
Donald Trump,
Mark Zuckerberg,
Vladimir Putin,
Zuck, I believe.
Vladimir Putin and Pope Francis.
Wow.
Which left the executive post,
on why they didn't turn anything in.
That's true, right?
You know he's talking to Zuck.
Zuck's going to talk to him.
Yes.
The Pope is going to talk to him.
Well, those two.
Those two.
Those two.
The Pope works for the crown.
Sorry.
Sorry to bust your bubble there.
But I love this.
Because even myself had I become Pope when I ran.
You would have talked to him, right?
I would have talked to him.
Yeah.
And we'll end with this because this is where I feel like the divorce will happen.
But that is awesome.
I mean, if that's true.
Yeah.
That was.
That's a great lander.
But those interviews are Harry interviews.
Those are not Megan interviews.
No, you know, he's not going to give it to Megan.
Those are not.
Which again, I think, I think the whisper that is leaking those information is a Harry fan that came from the royal because this leaker says Harry is embarrassed for the districious, oh no, the disastrous run.
of bad PR that includes the them being mocked for the paparazzi fueled then being
mocked for the high-speed chase and the princess book the prince's book spare um and he's also
embarrassed of the uh harry and megan documentary uh i mean that means he's embarrassed of everything
they've done since they left everything so i think we said it was going to be 22
Yeah, the first one was this was, though, the end of the year.
And then the new kid came along, right?
Then she got, oh, we can't break up.
I'm pregnant.
Which, by the way, Archie is already four.
Lily Beth is already two.
Right.
Right.
Right.
So they've lasted a lot longer than I had anticipated.
That's what I mean.
The chain that Megan has is pretty heavy.
Yeah.
Pretty heavy.
But after the funeral and then dad becoming king and him now,
not being, you know, she was there and couldn't go to the thing.
I think it's going to be literally election, 2024.
When the new president takes over, this is when this happened.
You have no idea.
I forgot about the fake car chase.
Yeah.
In New York.
Out of anywhere a car chase will happen in New York.
Fake car chase was so bad.
Nobody believed it.
No one believed it.
And then the part is like where they had the sad part about,
I think the more sad part,
not like they got caught on the lie,
the sad part is they had to go to Hertz,
a company that filed for bankruptcy to get their rental.
I know.
And the reason,
then we found out that the reason that they were actually traveling so far away
is because they were too cheap or didn't have the money
to have a stay at the suites.
They were staying at a friend's place.
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Who died today? Who died today? Okay, Christine Chavez.
27 is now dead at
She was laying in the tall grass
Of a park in Modesco, California
And an employee riding a John Deer tractor
With one of those big pull behind mowers
Swept the area
And
Yeah, she was run over and
Strewn across the grass.
It's not funny. I'm not laughing.
Stop it.
all right the unidentified worker said he didn't see her what are you going to do is he's laying in
the grass you can't see him so he'd already made a pass through the grass and then he realized
oh crap i'm not laughing stop it so then he called 911 and uh yeah she was she was already gone
now family members said that their grief has been compounded by what
they called disrespectful botched cleanup.
Yeah, their grief wasn't because they left a family member homeless sleeping in the park
in tall grass.
That wasn't, there's no grief there.
Don't be silly, Jeff.
What are you even talking about?
No, the grief was, is that it was a botched cleanup.
Apparently, when they came by the park to see where they'd lost her,
there was still, still some of her laying around.
would you stop laughing?
It's not funny.
It's not funny at all.
I mean, we have to go see the place because we wanted some kind of closure.
And then looking at the ground and we see, well, they saw chunks.
They assumed that it was her.
We don't know that it was her.
They're saying it was her.
But, you know, we're just assuming that it was her.
And since they assumed it was her, they got upset.
So they believe that they take more time cleaning up a dog from the street.
Well, the dog was laying in the street blocking traffic.
So, Christine Chavez is very sad, very sad in a California park.
So apparently the park was just sold.
It had been neglected, which is why some of the other homeless people in the area said,
Oh yeah, she goes over there and sleeps in the grass.
That's where she sleeps.
I'm glad the family didn't have any grief about that.
But it was just sold to a new company,
and that's what this guy was doing.
And his John Deer tractor coming along and, you know, mowing the grass.
And Christine was, I'm sure she didn't suffer.
I'm sure she didn't suffer.
Christine Chavez dead at the age of 27.
Oh, one more who died today, too.
died today, the number of people who died in connection with Kenya's doomsday cult has now crossed
400. The detectives have exhumed 12 more bodies that, I mean, the pastor is already in custody.
Pastor Paul McKenzie, who's linked to the cult based in the forested area of Amalinda,
which is coastal Kenya. For those of you aren't aware, this is Kenya here. I hold it my hand. This is Kenya.
Coastal Kenyans are right there.
That's where it is.
And the Coast Regional Commissioner,
Oroda, Anyangcha.
So the number of those who have died
to have risen to 403
with 95 people rescued
of the doomsday cult. Remember,
we talked about when they first arrested this guy,
the preacher ran, Paul McKenzie.
He told his followers
to starve to meet Jesus.
Now, I just want to go on record.
Chewing the fat,
host.
Jeff Fisher,
you're never going to get me in that cult.
I'm not going to be in that cult.
Okay, I'm all for fasting.
I do whatever you need to do.
Whatever you need to do to meet Jesus,
you go ahead.
But I'm not joining in
in the Starved to Meet Jesus cult.
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Also, one of the other shows that we do is Talking Walking Dead under the Chewing the Fat banner.
And I'm going to be talking to Jason Butchell here in a second.
He went on a road trip.
And we were talking on Monday when we were doing Talking Walking Dead.
And I don't know if it made it to the show or not.
So much yapping going on in my life.
I don't remember what's on the air and what's off the air.
but I wanted to talk to him about his road trip on his motorcycle, Mr. Sons of Anarchy, crossing the country.
But it's some fascinating stuff.
So I want to get Jason in here and talk to him about his road trip before the end of today.
Interesting news coming from Meda or Facebook, CEO Mark Zuckerberg said his company is going to open source the code,
underpinning its latest large language model,
you know, a Lama too,
meaning developers can use it to research
or commercial purposes for free.
He's releasing the tech.
He worked on for years,
and he said that meta believes,
this is Zuckerberg,
meta believes open sourcing
will allow developers to discover problems
with the software,
ultimately leading to a better product
and a more influence
for meta.
Interesting, because OpenAI,
Microsoft and Google, on the other
hand, have offered limited
access to their AI tools.
In fact, Microsoft
announced and their stock prices
rose yesterday because
they announced new pricing for its
AI subscription service.
And they're talking about an
additional $30 a month
for their AI subscription service.
Holy cow.
I mean, that's reoccurring
subscriptions, right? I mean, you're talking about the businesses that have Microsoft's
continuing software also are going to have to spend more for the AI on top of that.
Okay. But Zuck says, I'm going to let you use it for free. But hey, you have to sign on the
dotted line here. So any stuff that you find out or new stuff that you find, that belongs to
me. I guarantee you that's what's going to happen.
guarantee because I mean that's I know threads is deads now but uh you know that's I mean that's
the deal with threads right everybody moved on to threads but it's just more information for
zuck and the advertising campaign of meta so all right thank you mark we appreciate it thank you
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See app for details. Okay. I said earlier I wanted to talk to
Jason Butchral, who of course is
co-host of Talking Walking
Dead along with my son Maximus.
We do that once a week.
And Jason and I were talking on Monday,
and I don't know that we did it on the air or off
the air, but we talked a little bit
about his road trip.
And his road trip
was on his motorcycle,
which is what kind of motorcycle
is it again? Harley Davidson.
Yeah, I know. You has a special...
Lowrider ST. Oh, geez.
And so I was wondering
about the Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance, you know, the 70s book, you know, the,
the philosophy book from the 70s. And you obviously are not a fan of the 70s philosophy.
I love the 70s in general. Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. Best music ever, by the way.
But we were, we were talking and I followed your trip as best I could on the social media
accounts because you you posted a few things on your Twitter, which is at Jason Botryl on Twitter.
And the one picture that I loved was you with, I guess, was the Sons of Anarchy people.
And when you did a selfie of yourself with the Sons of Anarchy people behind you, everyone in the
picture had their face turned away from the camera except you.
It was awesome.
I knew they were all criminals right then.
Come on, man.
I was like, okay, they're all sorts of anarchy right then.
Come on.
I'm on the road with these guys.
They've all got their head turned.
They've all got their helmet on.
There's no way you know who they are.
Anyway, it was awesome.
So it was with my club that I rode up.
So it was 3,000 miles in general.
Okay, so you, speaking, you started here in DFW, right?
Dallas, Fort Worth in Texas.
And you drove, or you rode, sorry, up to, I,
Idaho, right?
Yeah.
And then you rode back, but you went a different way going and coming, right?
Pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, I did.
Because we, so on the route up there, I was with my club.
They like last minute, I was going up to Idaho to see some friends.
So last minute I found out that they were riding over to California.
I was like, you know what, screw it.
I'll just ride with you guys up to Idaho.
They kind of saw me there, and then they pushed off to California.
I stayed in Idaho for about a week.
Yeah.
But yeah, so it was with the club.
It was really cool.
It was hardcore, man.
It's, I'm, I'm 45, and I know there's a lot older people to do this than I do, but I
had never done a trip like that before.
So, and it's kind of, like, my bike is not exactly built just right off the factory
floor to do a trip like that for a guy my size, because I'm 6'5.
So I had to make a lot of tweaks to get that thing dialed in to actually get through it.
But dude, my butt was hurting.
My hips were hurting.
I felt like an old man, Jeffie, on this.
Like straight up.
It was fun, but I felt like an old man.
I saw your breakdown of the bike with your wind protector and your bags, your special leather bags,
and you're getting shoutouts to companies that make them.
I hope they're giving you free stuff.
Oh, I was trying hard.
I know. I was like tagging them all in there.
I know exactly what you were doing.
But anybody pulled through yet?
No.
Those bastards.
I know.
But if you're listening now?
But so the one thing that I was fascinated with is your footrest.
You screwed up on that, bro, didn't you?
They have those little small ones for the little baby feet.
That's, man, I mean, my feet are 13s.
And I mean, as, you know, your son, probably like your sons, well, your son's probably like a size 20.
This is bigger than 13th, yeah.
But, I mean, they don't make stuff that fits us.
No, they don't.
At all.
That's something I'm going to have to remedy for sure.
I will say this, though, Jason.
I have struggled with making things that not, that don't fit.
fit. You know, there are clothes that I've purchased over the years.
I didn't, I wouldn't know this. Yeah, well, I just like, you know, yeah. I've had an issue with that,
finding things that fit properly. Yeah. They have big and tall X, X, X, X, X, X, X, L stores.
They do, but some of the stuff is not proper.
That's not proper. Anyway, so, you know, you, you at least were somewhat comfortable, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, I mean, right, and writing with a group like that,
kind of difficult because you're on more of a schedule.
And so we were riding like two and a half hours till you're empty, you know, and then
you like take a quick little 20 minute break, jump right back on doing it up and go.
Yeah.
But I actually on the way back, I rode down my, I rode back two days by myself.
And that was actually pretty dang awesome.
And I specifically did it to like, you know, like, I'm sure you've taken some of these trips
before where you take like a lot of the back roads.
My wife forces me to go up these trips, man.
Oh, man.
But I love them.
I love them.
I saw, you ever heard of this, there's a show that I watched back in the day.
It was called Long Way Round with Ewan McGregor and like his best friend.
Yes.
I mean, that's an old show that's been around for.
It was a long time ago.
Oh, yeah, but they just did like a recent one, you know, in addition to it.
I think like last year or two years ago, it was like this time it was long way up.
And it was, you know, the very tip of South America all the way up through North America.
But I remember back then when that first season came out, maybe, I think it was his friend, said that,
Even if you've traveled before, you know, you haven't really experienced it unless you've done it off the back of a motorcycle.
And that is straight true because you smell everything.
Sometimes that's not a good thing.
But, I mean, you'll smell.
You can tell the difference in the small towns just by the food that you smell.
It's wild.
I mean, you think about it.
Like if you drive through, I don't know, Washington State, little small towns there, and you drive through, I don't know, Louisiana or Florida.
Absolutely different.
Think about the smells that you get a completely different experience.
Yeah.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm going to get in touch with some of these like small towns in rural areas because
they're struggling right now.
And the wild thing was is while I'm taking this trip on, I think Friday was when I was
going through the majority of these towns, I was going to do Indian reservations, small
little rural towns.
I love the Indian reservations.
The last time I went through there, I went through the Indian reservation.
I was in an automobile though, so I didn't get the full smell.
I noticed that many of the residences, which are double-wides, have tires on the roof.
Why is that?
Why do they have tires on the roof?
And I don't know the answer.
I'm guessing maybe because the wind comes along and blows the roof off so the tires keep on.
Or maybe it's just a place to go, yeah, I got to spare for the truck that's up on the roof.
I don't know.
I think it's the wind because sometimes you'll see big rocks on top instead of the tires.
It's fascinating to me.
Oh my gosh, look at all these tires on the room.
But when I, but that day, I think it was Friday,
was when the big Blaze Media Summit was.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And I remember I pulled off to the side and I saw,
I saw the Mike Pence, Tucker Carlson, like back and forth
where he was like not my concern.
That was.
Even though it wasn't really, you know what it was.
He'll never live.
Look.
Could have torpedoed his campaign.
I believe it did.
I mean, there's no way he outlives that now.
Just because he didn't listen fully to the question.
He absolutely, if you, you know, you actually listen to the whole thing.
He was talking about Tucker's point of people not knowing where Ukraine was.
And, you know, Tucker throwing his point.
I've heard that from you before, Tucker.
That's not my concern.
But the way it sounded and came off, man, he's never, he's done.
He's never going to be over.
He can, he can make excuses till the cows come home now.
Right.
And the thing is that that was like, it wasn't really what he meant.
but I think the majority of us now that and after riding through some of these communities,
we don't believe that you do have concern.
That's for sure.
We don't.
That's for sure.
You talk about all these things, you know, about, and the left is probably, is not
probably, they are the worst at this with like talking about the plight of, you know, insert
random select group.
Yeah.
And making it sound like they actually care and using it for their advantage.
They don't give a crap about these communities, Jeffrey.
Nope.
Um, it was funny.
I was sitting one of the mornings.
I was sitting in a bed and breakfast about ready to take off.
And there were these two old men sitting behind me.
And they were like,
do you hear that?
What, Mike Pence told Tucker Carlson about not Karen giving a crap?
And you could tell they lived in that town.
Right.
And they were severely,
they were seriously pissed off.
And they should have been.
Seriously pissed off.
Was that at the El Rancho?
That was not at the El Rancho.
This was, that was this one and was in,
where was it?
Oh, Monticello, Utah, Southern Utah.
That the Hotel El Rancho?
No, they have the hotel with a run.
That was the one on Route 66.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was freaking awesome, man.
That was like, so that place, I guess so,
and have you been to that part of the country
where everything looks like it's, you know,
like a wily coyote cartoon?
Yes.
You know, the rock face, everything.
The arches made out of rock, all this stuff.
Well, the El Rancho is where,
so that area is where they would shoot
all like the westerns from the 50s and 60s.
So people like John Wayne, all the other, you know, like classic cowboys of the day, they would stay.
They and the cast would stay at the El Rancho Hotel.
That's how they made a living, man.
That's how they survived.
Oh, yeah.
And then, I mean, and every single room is named after one of the actors that stay in the hotel.
John Wayne, Pied in this room.
Yeah.
Well, they had some.
Actually, one of the biggest legends of the El Rancho, and it's right there on Route 66 and Gallup, New Mexico,
is that I was walking up to one of the bars and the bars, like, all old school.
You know, some of it's made out of, you know, like that old school brick.
And one of the hotel people was like, yeah.
So, you know, one of the biggest, you know, things claims to fame here is that John Wayne,
after filming such and such movie was so, like, hot and tired that he rode his horse into the hotel
right up to that bar and ordered a whiskey.
I was like, hell yeah.
That's awesome.
But of course he would.
You see that cigarette butt over there?
That belonged to John Wayne.
Still there.
That's awesome.
Don't you dare.
No,
that's close enough.
Just leave it there.
What's,
what's so tragic about
and I hate,
I now utter,
so if you live in DFW,
L.A.,
any other big city,
you already hate the interstates
and freeways because they suck.
But I hate them even more now
because a lot of these towns,
man,
they have those gyms.
Well,
the interstates killed these small towns.
Oh, killed them.
Just killed them.
And it's tragic.
They just killed them.
So much history right there.
And there's still like,
today,
like people,
still want to take vacations like that, you know, the classic American road trip.
And it's hard.
If you want to do Root 66, you got to get up on the 40, you got to get back off the 40,
you know, like back and forth, back, but people still do it.
I met like multiple people that were taking that trip.
We've done it not specifically for that, but it ends up being that.
You know, you go somewhere and you go, okay, well, we're going to go the long way home.
Yeah.
You know, and take those throws.
I love it.
Did you know Route 66 ends at the Santa Monica Pier in California?
That's the end of it, right?
Yeah, I didn't know that.
But it's funny, when I lived in Los Angeles, we went to the Santa Monica Pier.
And there's this, if you go, it's still there to this day.
There's this like, almost like a monument, but it's like an information center to Route 66.
The end of 66, yeah.
And there's one dude that I don't know who pays him, but that's his one job is the poor guy
just sits there.
And every once in a while, someone comes up and looks at it and goes, hey, did you know,
that this is the end point to Root 66.
Let me tell you about Root 66 in the history.
I'm like, you know, if you back up, if you walked backwards 1,254 miles,
you'd see where John Wayne peed on the horse.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
How nice.
Thank you.
That's awesome.
I could run that booth.
No problem.
I'd be happy to.
So some of the, did you have interactions with people in the small towns?
I mean, you talk about, you know, not necessarily the, you know, the hotels or, you know,
the hotels or, you know, the gas.
I guess where you'd have the interaction is the gas station, right?
I mean, you'd pull into a town and that's where the interaction takes place, right?
Okay, yeah.
And I got two big stories from that.
First one, let me tell you.
So I was right, talk about the Indian reservations.
I was riding through, this one I think was maybe a Ute reservation or Navajo.
I don't remember.
But I pulled into one cast station.
And I'm still, I'm solo still at this point.
I have my motorcycle cut, you know, vest on.
Well, instead of America, you have to sport the colors.
I know.
I'm with you.
And it's got, it's, mine has a big marine eagle gloven anchor on the back.
So I'm gassing up.
And it's, this part is like just a gas station.
There's nothing around it except maybe like a few like project style houses kind of
off in the distance.
And that's what they look like.
It looks like government built.
That's what they are.
Like UN almost style houses.
And there's this guy.
And he's an Indian.
He looks like maybe he's in his 50s.
And he starts yelling at me.
And he's like making this weird like high pitch noise and doing all this weird stuff.
And I didn't know what he's going on about.
So eventually I got pissed and I walked over.
I was like, hey, buddy, do you have a problem?
And he looked at me, like shocked.
And he stood up and Jeffie burst into tears.
Oh my gosh.
He burst into tears.
And immediately I took me back.
And you could tell through his eyes.
and, you know, he's, well, you know, he's on meth, hardcore.
I mean, like, what are the symptoms?
I am aware of the look, yes.
Like, how does it feel, you know, if you're, you know,
it depends on the amount that you've taken throughout throughout the day,
but I understand.
You got it, you got it.
So he's bursting into tears.
He hugs me.
And I'm like, so I hug him back.
And he's like, I've been trying for two weeks just to get someone to acknowledge my existence.
So he's screaming at you or is.
screaming at the world while you're there hoping you acknowledge his existence. Screaming at the
world is the best way to put it. Exactly. Yeah. And I just immediately felt bad for him, you know,
and he's like, he's like, ah, at first I was pissed off. There's no way in hell I'm giving this guy
any money, you know. And then all of a sudden he's like, you know, I haven't had a job in years,
blah, blah, blah. Yeah. I mean, it's just my guard completely went down. But I mean,
that right there is the, it's a, it's a, it's a job. It's a. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's
it's an example of the plight in a lot of like not only like native america so i talked to
at that when i was in monicello uh new mexico when i stopped at that bed and breakfast
i talked to this navajo nation woman and she was like i had to move out of my reservation
away from my family just to go to this small town there's maybe 2,000 people in this town
something like that because the school systems actually function here she goes they don't on the
reservation wow she goes you can't walk out at night because now the crime on the
reservation is so high. And she was like, the tribal police do the best they can, but they're
overwhelmed. And I was like, what's the primary, what's driving most of the crime? She goes, meth.
Meth. Yeah, big time. She's like, and I just, I, I try not to get political on some of these
conversations, but I said, what do you think about certain politicians that, you know, use, you know,
like the native plight as like an election springboard? And she goes, oh, she, she knew everything.
She's like, she goes, oh, now they have an interior secretary that just because she's
Native American. They think that they care.
And she's like, they don't give a crap. She goes,
they give a crap about talking about us. No kidding.
But not helping us. I was like, exactly.
And, but I mean,
witnessing that firsthand and then
driving through, getting off the reservation,
I remember I was in Colorado driving through,
stopped to this small town, talked to this lady
that was either in her 50s or 70s.
She had a hard life. You could tell.
And I'm filling up, and she goes,
Marine, huh? It sounded like she had just got finished
smoking and then swallowing razor blades.
Love that.
Love that.
Marine, huh?
It's like, yeah.
And she goes, my first husband was Marine and Korea.
And I was like, first husband, like, your follow up is automatically, well, how many husbands have there been?
How many have you killed?
Four?
You know, it was like, four or five?
You know, it was I think it was four.
And she's like, yeah, every single one's been in the military, blah, blah, blah.
And I guess I got a type.
Yeah.
And she goes, she goes, and so I'm like, I'm talking.
Dr. briefly and it's there's people are so informed and connected no matter where you go.
She goes, I just.
More than you think. That's for sure. A lot more than more than more than for whatever reason you
think they that you're not. Right. And that's not true. And that's not true. And you and you
also kind of think that well maybe they're not as deep thinking, you know, and that's and that's a
problem that the elites on the coast have. Yes. And we in big cities. We all have that right. And I say
we because we all have that same bias.
That seems that way.
Yeah.
You know, but when you step back, you realize, it's not really the way.
Exactly.
It's not, not at all.
And she was, she starts talking about how, you know, Biden just called up reservists.
And she's like, she, she, she, she, I remember she kind of ended our conversation on,
I wish they would just leave you boys alone.
And I was like, wow.
That is like, I got to write this down.
Like everything you just said, I got to write down.
It's like, it was just amazing.
But, I mean, they were talking about, like, they, they, they, they, they, they,
have a grand vision of everything that's going on in the country and the world. And it's so much
more powerful because it's localized. Like everything trickles down and affects people in rural areas
the hardest. Yeah. And whether it was meth, which was everywhere. That was one of the biggest
problems in every single small town. Crime, which is now skyrocketing in these places, which before
didn't have crime. Well, I mean, that's a that's a fallout from the Matthews. I mean, you know,
and it's, I mean, you know, you attribute that directly to like border policy.
and just criminalization.
I mean, where is it?
I mean,
hello,
it's coming from there.
Oh,
yeah.
I mean,
I know the guys are,
you know,
busy cooking their own meth
out back in the UN building,
but,
you know,
that's because they're getting,
you know,
that's coming across the border.
Yeah.
I mean,
it made me,
it,
it made me angry at,
you know,
just like the political landscape,
even more,
which I kind of stay angry at it
always anyway.
But,
because you know,
like,
so,
for instance,
if you're either on the left
or the right,
you have to be aware of this.
You were probably driven through some of these areas.
For one, let's say it's like a good guy,
so he knows how to like improve the community
and, you know, make changes so that things get better.
On the other side, they're just looking for things to exploit.
And they're looking at these towns, population 2000.
And they're just looking at, okay, yeah, this is a problem,
this is a problem, this is a problem.
These are the things I'm going to promise.
These are the stories I'm going to tell
just to take advantage of during my campaign.
Do I have any intention of fixing it?
No.
I don't give a crap about that.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter whether I fix it or not.
Yeah.
I've just pointed it out and you think I'm going to.
Yep.
Yeah.
I know.
Really sad.
Man.
Really sad.
Now, do you have appreciation for the country more since the trip?
Oh, yeah.
Because, you know, my stepdad, I always joked around about, he traveled all over this country.
I mean, flew around.
I mean, he traveled all over the world in the military.
but his favorite thing was that, you know,
you don't need to be traveling around the world
until you see what we have in the United States
because we got, this country is amazing
and see this first.
Oh, yeah.
So that was the,
we talked about the Route 66 thing
and back in the day and the heyday,
that was considered,
and I found this out from our gentleman
at the Santa Monica Pier,
at the booth.
At the booth.
Man's got my job.
That's the retirement plan one day.
I'm coming for your job, dude.
But like that was,
considered the vacation. Like there was no, oh, let's go to Europe, you know, let's do this and this.
Right. The vacation was starting when, where like in Chicago and then getting everybody in the station wagon.
Yep.
And then making that trek. There were so many things to see. It's almost like a new world once you hit Utah.
Yeah. You know, it's almost like it's not this planet. So I mean like, they didn't care about going to see the Coliseum, you know, or Big Ben, you know, in London.
why would you do that when you can literally almost kind of walk the the the sands of Mars
in Zion National Park in Utah, you know, or something like that?
Yeah, it's like you really didn't need to, but like that was the goal was to go all the way
down and then you ended at a beach, you know, where Hollywood was and all that.
I mean, I mean, this country is amazing.
We have it all.
And the people, you know, as I'm sure many people have taken trips like this are probably the best
part.
The scenery, everything to do.
all that stuff is cool and all, but the people
are pretty much the best part.
Yes. Yes. Even high on meth.
Even high on math.
Just leave it at that right there. Jason Butrell, thank you.
Even high on meth, America, baby.
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